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Space-DuckSo I installed LAMP via tasksel and I'm trying to make a link between /var/www and my home dir, but I'm not sure of the best way to do it. Any help?00:30
Space-DuckI'm looking at "Solutions 2" on this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www00:30
Space-DuckIs that a good way to go about it?00:31
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JackyAlcineHow do you change the user agent in Firefox in 11.10 (Ubuntu)?02:43
* JackyAlcine feels a bit embarrassed for asking. >_<02:43
deper29hey guys, I'm trying to follow this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules but am running into troubles when I have to install the linux-alsa-driver-modules package05:36
deper29what I get is this: deper29@Fermat:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)05:37
deper29Reading package lists... Done05:37
deper29Building dependency tree05:37
deper29Reading state information... Done05:37
deper29E: Couldn't find package linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-35-generic05:37
ashickur-noordeper29:  which sound card do you use?05:37
deper29I'm trying to run this through the HDMI on my graphics card05:38
ashickur-noorgive the output of lspci05:38
ashickur-noorrun this  uname -r05:39
deper29http://paste.ubuntu.com/733895/05:39
deper292.6.32-35-generic05:39
ashickur-noorok05:40
ashickur-noorsearch it on synaptic package manager05:41
ashickur-noorby ''linux-alsa-driver-modules''05:41
deper29search the linux-alsa-driver-modules?05:41
deper29kk05:41
ashickur-noorthen see what happen05:41
ashickur-noorgoto synaptic package manager05:42
ashickur-noorsearch by this name ''linux-alsa-driver-modules''05:42
deper29all of hte stuff in there is for 2.6.3205:42
deper29it looks like05:42
ashickur-noorthere must be 2.6.32-3505:43
deper29http://imagebin.org/18343405:45
deper29just that05:45
deper29:(05:45
deper29goes up to 2.6.32.3405:45
deper29*-3405:45
ashickur-noorthen install the *.3405:47
ashickur-noorI think it should work05:47
ashickur-noor*.35 is not released yet05:47
deper29k, I will do that05:48
deper29I can do it through synaptic right? I don't need to use terminal?05:48
ashickur-noorsynaptic is best05:49
deper29kk05:49
deper29just going ot reboot05:49
ashickur-noorok05:49
deper29back in a bit! thanks :)05:49
ashickur-noorcan any body give me a screensot of 10.10 startup screen05:51
deper29back05:51
ashickur-noordeper29:  is it works?05:52
ashickur-noorIAmNotThatGuy:  hi05:52
deper29still going through the rest :P05:52
IAmNotThatGuyHello ashickur-noor05:52
ashickur-noordeper29:  let us know what is going on05:52
ashickur-noorIAmNotThatGuy:  which version u r using now?05:53
IAmNotThatGuyashickur-noor: Currently, I am not at my machine. I use Lucid and  2 Oneiric =]05:53
ashickur-noorhum05:54
ashickur-noorI need some pic of 10.10, so I asked05:54
deper29kk, almost finished here05:54
deper29no dice :(05:55
deper29essentially, this is what I'm trying to do05:55
deper29http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166873705:55
IAmNotThatGuyashickur-noor: PM05:56
deper29http://paste.ubuntu.com/733903/05:56
ashickur-noordeper29: then I can not help you05:58
ashickur-noorI don't have any experience of HDMI05:59
deper29okay05:59
deper29thanks for your help so far :)05:59
ashickur-noordeper29: 1 thing05:59
deper29yeah?05:59
ashickur-nooruse backdated kernel version of *.3405:59
deper29like, when I boot?05:59
ashickur-nooru r using *.3505:59
deper29how do I do that?06:00
ashickur-noorya, if it is install06:00
ashickur-noordon't you have old kernel in ur OS?06:00
deper29I have the option upon boot to go *.3406:00
deper29yeah06:00
ashickur-noorthen use that06:01
deper29and see if it works?06:01
deper29I will give it a shot I guess :P06:01
deper29thanks again :)06:01
ashickur-noortry06:01
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ashickur-noorany one can you tell me about Ubuntu logo trademark?06:03
ashickur-noorCan I edit the logo to print on some meterial?06:04
ashickur-noor??06:05
deper29I hit a small hiccup06:10
deper29deper29@Fermat:~$ grep eld_valid /proc/asound/NVidia/eld*06:10
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#0.0:eld_valid106:10
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#1.0:eld_valid106:10
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#2.0:eld_valid006:10
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#3.0:eld_valid006:10
deper29http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166873706:10
deper29according to that thread, I should only have one line that returns 106:10
IAmNotThatGuyMay I know the actual issue?06:14
ashickur-noorIAmNotThatGuy:  to whome?06:14
IAmNotThatGuydeper06:14
deper29I'm trying to get HDMI sound from my graphics card to my TV06:16
IAmNotThatGuyashickur-noor: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy06:16
IAmNotThatGuydeper29: tried killing pulseaudio and restarting?06:17
ashickur-noorIAmNotThatGuy:  thnx06:17
IAmNotThatGuyashickur-noor: you might also need https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official06:18
deper29how do I do that?06:19
IAmNotThatGuykillall pulseaudio in terminal?06:21
bioterrorpulseaudio -k06:22
IAmNotThatGuyeven 'pulseaudio -k' in terminal will be enough I believe06:22
IAmNotThatGuybioterror: :P06:22
deper29okay06:22
deper29did it06:22
bioterrordo you always repeat what I say? :D06:22
deper29lol06:22
IAmNotThatGuybioterror: Sometimes :P06:22
IAmNotThatGuydeper29: check whether you can play sound. If not, try pulseaudio --check06:23
bioterrorhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NXfYc7QPkKU/TRwcyQpSg9I/AAAAAAAAAnU/6pB2K8KnJz8/s1600/Screenshot-Ubuntu-Sound-Preferences.png what does that hardware tab say?06:23
IAmNotThatGuybioterror: you should reduce the speed that you respond so that we can post in same time :P06:23
bioterrordo you have that HDMI device activated?06:24
deper29I have it connected06:24
deper29what do you mean activated?06:24
IAmNotThatGuyAre the drivers set and are active?06:24
deper29yes06:24
IAmNotThatGuygoto sound preferenced and you will get a screen as mentioned by bioterror06:25
IAmNotThatGuys/preferenced/preferences06:25
deper29hardware tab says HDA NVidia06:27
deper29Profile: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output06:27
deper29??06:33
the^usergoeden morgen08:17
the^userdit is dus voor de beginnende ubuntu gebruikers08:18
nlsthzn!gb08:19
ubot2Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk08:19
nlsthzndoh :p08:19
nlsthznthe^user: hi... english please :)08:19
the^userzou iemanmd mij kunnen helpen met het instellen van mijn gmail account in evolution, ik heb de website met de stap voor stap instructie voor mij liggen, maar ik kan nergens een wachtwoord invullen.08:19
the^userenglish08:20
the^useroeps08:20
the^useris there a channel voore beginners dutch08:20
Unit193!nl08:20
ubot2Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl08:20
the^useruboth thnx08:21
nlsthznUnit193: ah thanks...08:21
the^useri try it in english08:24
nlsthznthe^user: check the -nl channel I am trying to assist ;)08:25
the^useri cant configurate evolution for my e mail account i have the website that i need i follow these staps but it dont work, als my button to get my e mail in evolution dopnt work.08:25
nlsthznbut not in dutch :p08:26
nlsthznguys, in Evolution to save your password... when do you fill it in as there is no option when setting up the account?08:26
the^useryes08:27
the^userthsats my problem also08:28
nlsthznthe^user: I know, that is why I am asking ;)08:28
the^userhahaha oke :)08:28
the^useri,m not blond but sometimes iḿ not working propperly08:29
the^useri think braindamage08:29
ashickur-noorneed some regarding pgp key12:05
ashickur-noorHow to sign a document using my openpgp key? Any one can tell me?12:12
ashickur-noorIAmNotThatGuy:12:14
IAmNotThatGuyHi12:17
IAmNotThatGuyashickur-noor: You should see http://www.wikihow.com/Sign-the-Ubuntu-Code-of-Conduct12:18
ashickur-noorIAmNotThatGuy:  I have already sign it12:18
ashickur-noorthe method is CLI12:18
ashickur-noorI need some GUI12:18
IAmNotThatGuyNope. In that they have said about how to get the digital signature12:19
IAmNotThatGuyI am already held up with works dude. Sorry. I ll get you once my work is done.12:19
ashickur-noorIAmNotThatGuy:  OK12:20
ashickur-noorHow can I work cannon ip1980 On Ubuntu 10.04?12:24
ashickur-noorhead_victim:12:26
IAmNotThatGuyashickur-noor: It will be better to not to ping each person as they might not be available. Kindly watch out regarding this12:32
ashickur-noorOk12:32
ashickur-noorIs anybody here?12:37
Snicksieyeah, im here :)12:41
ashickur-noorHow can I work cannon ip1980 On Ubuntu 10.04?12:41
Snicksiei'll have a look for you ashickur-noor, but there's always a possibility it doesnt work yet in ubuntu ;)12:41
ashickur-noorSnicksie: then what can I use?12:42
Snicksiepatience please, im taking a look. as soon as i've found something i'll let you know ;)12:42
Snicksiehttp://www.jdam.us/2010/07/07/canon-ip1980-printer-via-linux-ubuntu-10-04/ : have you tried this yet, ashickur-noor ?12:43
ashickur-noorlet me check12:43
ashickur-noorI will confirm you latter12:45
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ashickur-noorWhich type of file I can sign by using OpenPGP key13:40
ashickur-noorNeed some help to digitally sign a pdf file13:47
ashickur-noorhave anybody test it?13:47
ashickur-noorCan anybody help me?13:50
* nlsthzn has only had to difitally sign one document, and there was a how-to :)13:51
E3D3How can I get the full location from a file in nautilus ? Properties show it partly.14:27
HardtackI'm attempting to put Ubuntu 11.10 on a 32G Sandisk pen drive.  I reformatted the drive Fat 32 and gave it a 4G persistence file.  When I reboot my HP dv9820 laptop, I receive an error message, "Could not find kernel image: /casper/vmlinuz"  Would someone please help me?14:37
nlsthznHardtack: which method did you use to create the USB?14:38
Hardtacknlsthan: I'm having Brainlock - give me a minute please14:41
E3D3Hardtack: I like MultiSystem (http://liveusb.info/dotclear/)14:41
Hardtacknlsthan: my method was Universal-USB-installer-1.8.6.8.exe14:45
nlsthznHardtack: hmmm... that is the "official" method as described on the ubuntu site... so it is strange that it didn't work...14:47
* nlsthzn is on his way home from work now... so hopefully one of the guru's will step up and fix you in two seconds flat...14:48
geirhaSome hardware has problems booting when the usb is persistent. I'm not sure why, or if that is still the case.14:49
Hardtackgeirha: On a previous attempt, I used Universal-USB-installer-1.8.6.8.exe and set the installation for NO persistent file.  On that occasion I received an error message, "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image".  I gave up on that, and reformatted the stick WITH a persistent file, resulting in this chat.14:53
holsteinHardtack: i typically just install to the USB stick, and put grub on there14:56
Hardtackholstein: I don't understand "grub", other than something I eat!14:58
holsteingrub is the boot loader that ubuntu uses by default14:58
holstein!info grub214:59
holstein!grub14:59
ubot2GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)14:59
holstein*if* you were to actually install ubuntu, that sould replace the bootloader you are using (by default)14:59
holsteinif you had windows on there, it would repace the windows bootloader (which will only boot windows) and install grub which will install both15:00
holsteinwell, not install, it will allow both linux and windows to boot15:00
holsteinbut, thats not what you want15:00
holsteinyou want a persistent USB... and i see no advantage to that being live... i get a USB stick, and the alternate ISO's still allow for customizing where grub goes15:01
Hardtackubot2: There's no Windows section on this stick.  Does the subject "Lost GRUB after installing Windows?" apply to me?15:01
ubot2Hardtack: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:01
holsteinHardtack: that is an error that can result15:02
HardtackMy error - sorry.15:02
holsteinno worries...15:02
Hardtackholstein: I'm chatting on a Windows machine.  Please tell me how to "!info grub2" without Linux.15:06
holsteinHardtack: you dont have grub on that windows machine15:07
holsteinwhat im suggesting is an alternative to the persisent live scenario15:07
holsteinwhere, you would actually install ubuntu, using the USB stick as the destination, then installing grub (for the bootloader) to that same USB stick15:08
holsteinthis is again the method i prefer, since i end up with a traditional normal system, just one that is on a USB stick15:08
holsteinHardtack: what are you using to create the stick that you are trying to make?15:09
Hardtackholstein: Oops, we didn't/_I_ didn't communicate well.  Yes, I know that I don't have grub on a Windows machine.  How to I use my Windows machine to !linfo for the grub that may not be in exist on my stick?15:09
holsteinHardtack: did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent ??15:10
Hardtackholstein: above I replied to nlsthan: my method was Universal-USB-installer-1.8.6.8.exe15:10
holsteini personally use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/15:10
holsteinbut again, i dont do persistence that way ^^15:11
Hardtackholstein: To your question, "did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent ??", I looked at it some three hours ago, but my first impression is that it doesn't have anything to do with my problem.15:13
holsteinHardtack: what would you lie for me to help you with?15:15
holsteini feel like the error you are encountering could be anything from the stick being bad, to a bad downloaded image, to something with the usb creator you are using15:16
holsteini personally tried the usb creator a few years ago, and it didnt work well for me, so i went back with unetbootin15:16
Hardtackholstein: If I knew, I wouldn't be asking for help.  Just tell me "load /casper/vmlinuz from the website www.universalfixes.net and install it in your root directory using the executable file 'smashed_grub.bin'." or some such.15:20
holsteinHardtack: unfortunately theres not an easy answer... a 'click this and all is well' answer15:20
holsteini would suggest using unetbooting with that usb stick and that downloaded image ot make just a normal bootable live stick15:21
holsteinthat will tell you the image is good, and the stick is good, and give you a result that is positive15:21
Hardtackholstein: Thank you for your assistance.  I think I'll wait and see if another expert can help.15:21
holsteinthen, you can go from there, changing the stick out, or trying a different downloaded image15:22
holsteinHardtack: sure... good luck :)15:22
holsteinHardtack: you might find some assistance with your ubuntu loco team http://loco.ubuntu.com/15:24
holsteinbut i assure you , to diagnose whats going on, you will need to be cooperative with *some* form of troubleshooting at some point15:24
Hardtackholstein: I'll give http://locoubuntu.com/ a try.  Thanks!15:24
Hardtackholstein: Firefox rerouted http://locoubuntu.com to www.locoubuntu.com and reports it can't find the server.15:27
holsteinyou can just click here >> http://loco.ubuntu.com/ or type it in as-is15:28
holsteinyou need a *.* after the loco15:28
Hardtackholstein: I clicked and told you what Firefox reported.15:28
holsteinhttp://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://loco.ubuntu.com/15:28
Hardtackholstein: Ah!  It appears that you left out an important <dot> in the original address.  Thanks.15:30
holsteinHardtack: typically, the channels are laid out like this... i am in north carolina, US, so my loco is15:30
holstein #ubuntu-us-nc15:30
holsteinyou can likely just guess the channel you want to try... /join #ubuntu-us-tx or however the particular chat client you use connects15:31
holsteinalso, just to clarify, and you can check the scroll back.. the dot is missing in the response you typed, and thats likely the link you clicked on, resutling in the error Hardtack15:38
Hardtackholstein: I agree.  My error, not yours.  Thanks.15:39
truepurple This site https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa, says "You'll see that the text-box directly below reads something like this ...Copy those lines." copy, as in input them into terminal too?16:50
hobgoblintruepurple: if you have a newish version the easiest thing to do is sudo add-apt-repository ppa:handbrake-ubuntu/ppa16:52
truepurpleI did that, and I did the update thing16:53
truepurplebut hobgoblin that was not enough for the program to appear it seems16:53
hobgoblinyou need to install it as well - that just adds the repo and when you updated made the package available for install16:53
truepurplehow do I install it?16:54
hobgoblinsudo apt-get install handbrake   if that's the name of the package16:54
hobgoblinor you could use software centre16:54
truepurpleIt isnt listed there16:55
truepurplehobgoblin, know of another way to fix videos without indexes for rewinding and fastforwarding?16:55
hobgoblinnope - sorry16:55
truepurplethat line didnt work16:56
truepurple"E: Unable to locate package handbrake"16:56
hobgoblinapt-cache search handbrake16:56
truepurpleno good16:56
truepurpleI did the line, it went to prompt again, did previous line, it didnt install16:57
hobgoblinoh hang on - there is only a version for natty - not oneiric16:57
truepurplewhat is the name of 11.04?16:57
hobgoblinnatty16:59
hobgoblintruepurple: do you have 11.04?17:00
hobgoblinhi haqking17:00
truepurpleyes17:00
haqkinghi piskie17:00
truepurplehobgoblin, what is its name, is it natty or oneiric?17:01
hobgoblintruepurple: 11.04 is natty17:08
hobgoblintruepurple: do you know how to use pastebins? open a terminal run command that follows and copy it to the pastebin - enter and give me the link - please do not paste it all in here17:10
hobgoblintruepurple: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/17:10
hobgoblinthat is a lower case L not an I or a 117:10
hobgoblinoh lol - nvm I lied - it only goes to lucid17:11
hobgoblinhang on - I did find a link17:11
hobgoblintry this  one - possibly it has a natty version - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11430209&postcount=217:11
truepurplehobgoblin, it says 11.10, that means it will work for 11.04 too?17:14
truepurpleI guess so17:15
hobgoblinno idea - it might - I'm sort of in the middle of some r/l stuff and haven;t had time to backtrack to find the ppa page17:16
hobgoblintruepurple: yes it does17:17
truepurplehobgoblin, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)17:18
truepurpleE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?17:18
truepurpleWhat do I need to shut down?17:18
hobgoblinsoftware centre perhaps17:22
hobgoblinanything that is accessing the dpkg lock - so anything that's installing anything17:22
dangertuxalternatively you could do sudo killall -9 apt (this will stop anything using apt and probably make it crash just a fair warning) then retry to use apt to do the update/install/whatever17:25
truepurplegah, weird things are suddenly happening with my system17:28
truepurpleI can't get into nautilus, windows of nautilus that were already up first hanged with the cursor, and then went blank, and small up ups keep on coming up, that are blank white17:29
truepurplehobgoblin, dangertux17:31
dangertuxyes?17:31
hobgoblinI'm not going to be much help with ubuntu - I use something else17:32
dangertuxtruepurple - I would try rebooting it and see if it's still doing it17:32
hobgoblintruepurple: if you've got a terminal open you could try running top to see what's at the top17:32
truepurple"running top"? what does that mean hobgoblin?17:33
hobgoblinit's a program in terminal, tells you what things are running and cpu usage and the like17:34
truepurplehow do I start it hobgoblin?17:34
hobgoblintype top in a terminal17:35
truepurplehmm, well it seems to have resolved itself now17:37
hobgoblinmight be worth keeping an eye on that - if it happens again - remember top in terminal :)17:39
truepurpleyou dont know anything about handbreak?17:39
hobgoblinnope - sorry - no idea even as to what it is :)17:42
truepurplehobgoblin, know anything about methods to fix indexing on videos?17:48
hobgoblinsorry17:48
hobgoblinif there's no-one in here jumps in to say I do either hang about or maybe have a look on the forum - perhaps use googlbuntu to search it17:50
truepurplenot had much success with forum, even with easier questions17:52
hobgoblinwell I have had no problem using it personally.17:53
truepurpleusing the forum? The problem is that people rarely respond and help from my exp17:53
zkriessetruepurple: Eh depends upon how you ask17:54
zkriesseMost people just browse it to find answers for their own questions...They rarely help I agree but it's because half the time they aren't there to help17:55
zkriesseIts the rock-solid contributors from the deep, dark, mysterious past like hobgoblin who help :P17:55
hobgoblintruepurple: if you've had problems getting help from the forum - have a look at one of the stickies in the ABT forum - might help17:57
truepurplelink to this abt forum please17:58
zkriessehttp://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=1f80d5fb4461f4515d5e6818fe71b0ad&f=32617:58
zkriesseIt's the "Absolute Beginners Talk" section17:59
zkriesseLot of those questions get answered and talked about17:59
truepurplebtw, it seems it is thia handbreak thing that is causing trouble with my system17:59
truepurplethat is where I have gone before17:59
hobgoblintruepurple: this post - read it - might help might not http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8920811&postcount=118:01
hobgoblinanyway I'm off for a while now18:01
truepurplehobgoblin, something in that handbreak program is causing major problems with naut, how can I shut it down?18:02
zkriesseYou could just kill it from terminal18:02
zkriessep aux grep it18:02
truepurplehow? I mean I already closed the program itself, but its side effects continue18:03
hobgoblinzkriesse: this is the beginners help channel - might help to explain that lol18:03
zkriessehobgoblin: Yeah I'm working on it :P18:03
hobgoblinanyway - as I said - I'm off now18:03
zkriessetruepurple: Even when you "close" a program there might on occasion still be a background process or processes from said program running18:04
zkriesseNaturally because they're in the background you can't just click "Close"18:04
truepurpleI would try to kill something in system monitor, but I dont see anything obvious to kill18:04
zkriesseYeah see that's the first tatic you can take18:04
zkriesseBut like you say, nothing obvious18:04
zkriesseNow, you can do a grep search from terminal and then kill it and that should be the end of it...if that fails (I.E. it comes up with nothing related to said program) then we'd have to try and figure something out18:05
truepurplenautilus is runninh and using 96% of my cpu?!18:05
zkriesseLemme grab my cheat sheet for aux grep etc...moment plz18:05
zkriesseNautilus is a bugger18:05
truepurpleshould I force close it?18:06
zkriesseYou can try, or you could do a system shut down and then reboot to see if that helps first...18:06
zkriesseI'd recommend that first before you start killing processes off like bad guys in a saloon18:06
truepurpleanother is npviewer at 52%, hey that is more then 100%, how is that possible18:07
hobgoblintry killall nautilus - it'd restart automatically18:07
hobgoblinnow I'm really off lol18:07
truepurplewhat is wrong with killing processes? That is what shut down does anyway18:07
zkriesseWell there's nothing wrong perce, just in my opinion I recommend a shutdown first because that way they get shut down in an orderly fashion, instead of random with the possibility of crashing other system resources etc18:09
truepurplecrashinh other system resources could cause damage zkriesse ?18:10
zkriesseNot saying it wil but i've had weirder things happen :P18:10
zkriesseSorry if I get you confused, i'm coming off a cold here so my brain is still a bit wacked18:10
truepurplebut how can I directly shutdown the after effects of this handbreak program zkriesse18:11
zkriesselemme research a sec18:13
zkriesseOk so you're using that video transcoder thingy?18:18
truepurplei used it18:18
truepurpletrying to fix the index on a program18:19
zkriesseOk18:19
zkriesseAnd now your system is doing what exactly18:19
truepurplezkriesse, But I shut it down some time ago18:19
truepurplenautilus is all locked up18:19
zkriesseah ok18:20
zkriesseYou could try just killing nautilus then like hobgoblin suggested18:20
truepurpleits using a crazy amount of cpu usage ( how can one program use 96% cpu, and another 52%?)18:20
truepurplehow can there be 148% cpu usage?18:21
zkriesseouch18:21
zkriesseyeah, kill it18:21
truepurplethat was a actual question18:21
zkriesseSomething is totally off...that shouldn't be happening18:21
zkriesseI have no idea to be honest18:21
truepurplethere was also strange blank popups18:21
zkriesse?18:22
truepurpleThat question is too vague to answer18:24
zkriesseI meant surprise man18:25
zkriesseThat is just really odd18:25
truepurplewell this handbreak program seems too buggy18:27
truepurpleyou don't know of a better way to fix video indexing?18:27
zkriesseNope sorry :(18:28
sluckxzavidemux works pretty slick not sure about indexing and doesnt work great with x264.  awesome for muxing.18:28
truepurplewhat is x264, and what is muxing sluckxz18:29
truepurpleand what is avidemux for?18:29
sluckxzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avidemux18:33
sluckxzvideo editing.18:33
truepurplesluckxz, sorry, I don't understand most of that, please put it in simpler language what all that is18:35
sluckxzwhat language do you prefer?18:35
truepurplewhat is x264, and what is muxing18:35
bioterrorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC18:36
deper29hey guys, wondering if you could help me a bit here. I am having a hard time getting sound from HDMI set up in 10.04. I have an Nvidia GTX 550 Ti card18:38
deper29I found this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737 but it isn't working for me :/18:39
truepurplewhat is x264, and what is muxing sluckxz18:40
sluckxztruepurple: you will have to read that on your own or find someone else to read it to you i am not willing to do that for you. bioterror gave a link to 264 info and here is one on multiplexing. http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/term.cfm/multiplexing18:42
truepurpleWell this does not seem to have alot of bearing on fixing those video indexings18:44
sluckxzdeper29: did aplay -l show an hdmi device?18:45
deper29no, just a usb sound device and my sound card18:46
deper29i don't want to go through sound card at this instant in time, just because i haven't set up house properly yet, and am running through tv speakers18:47
sluckxzyou have to have the nvidia proprietary drivers installed to get hdmi audio.18:48
sluckxzSystem -> Administration -> Additional Drivers  did you do that?18:48
deper29says it's activated18:49
sluckxzwhats your cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version output?\18:49
sluckxzthis guy got the correct driver working in 10.10 http://bpowers.org/?p=10  with a little work around to get more current18:52
deper29NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  285.05.09  Fri Sep 23 17:31:57 PDT 201118:53
deper29GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)18:53
deper29so you think I should add that repository then?18:55
deper29because my version seems newer than that guy's18:56
sluckxzhope you can get dmesg | grep -i hdmi or aplay -l to list some hdmi audio devices.  seems like a driver / hardware issue to me.  so no i wouldnt try to find anything older but i might try anything newer.18:58
sluckxzIf you do not see a nvidia sound device you need to upgrade to a properly patched alsa 1.0.23 or 2.6.35+ kernel19:00
sluckxzvery end of step one. in that article.19:00
deper29my kernel is 2.6.32-35-generic19:01
sluckxzif it seems you have the correct driver and you do and you do not see hdmi audio hardware listed patch alsa and kernel.  lol  sorry man.19:01
deper29that's okay19:02
deper29thanks for trying :)19:02
sluckxzgo for it!  patch it and compile a kernel!19:02
sluckxzor just upgrade i suppose.  bummer thats a bit of a tough one.19:02
sluckxzim running 11.10 and hdmi audio works slick out of the box.19:03
sluckxzit looks to me you only have to do one or the other.19:04
sluckxzupgraded kernel or.. patch alsa19:04
sluckxzi patched alsa once before in slackware i think and it wasnt that horrible.  i found a great tutorial on patching alsa19:05
deper29I don't know how to patch that stuff lol19:05
deper29time for some more googling and reading I guess19:05
deper29might as well learn :P19:06
sluckxzhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules  looks pretty doable not to tough.19:06
sluckxzlooks pre compiled in that link.  just bleeding edge apparently.19:07
sluckxzgreat attitude deper2919:08
deper29E: Couldn't find package linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-35-generic19:09
truepurpleCan anyone please help me fix indexing for mkv files?19:09
deper29that isn't sarcasm is it?19:09
sluckxzno way.19:09
deper29lol, cool :P19:09
deper29thanks19:10
sluckxzthats how i learn.  i either keep trying or give up.19:10
deper29lol19:10
deper29it's the best way19:10
sluckxzits awesome to 'grok' things.19:10
deper29I don't like giving up though19:10
sluckxzhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa19:13
deper29ooooh :D19:14
deper29you're a wonderful human being19:14
sluckxzbrad figg compiled drivers and uploaded 2011-10-6 2.6.32-34.20111006143719:14
deper29wait19:14
deper29I see the 35 in there19:14
sluckxz.35-3019:14
sluckxzor 32.3419:15
deper29oh, i see19:15
sluckxzlooks like you got some choices to make regarding the kernel or compiling yourself.19:16
deper29yes :/19:16
deper29hold on, I am going to boot into a 32-34 kernel19:16
sluckxztruepurple: whats the problem with your mkv?19:17
truepurplesluckxz, the indexing on many a video file I have is broken so I can not fast-forward or rewind them19:20
sluckxzdeper29: there are ppas for .37 and .38 kernels!19:24
truepurplesluckxz, so can you help19:24
sluckxznot sure truepurple what video player do you use?19:24
sluckxzim encoding an mkv right now.  i dont have any issues ff rw using xbmc with my mkv's19:25
truepurpleTotem and vlc, but it doesnt matter, the ones with the bad index have trouble fastforwarding and rewinding, and the ones that have fine indexs, don't have trouble19:26
truepurplewhat is xbmc, a player?19:26
sluckxzyes.  media center.19:27
sluckxzhttp://meteorite.sourceforge.net/download.php19:27
deper29sluckxz: I am in 34, no dice19:31
deper29doesn't list my stuff for some reason19:31
sluckxzand you upgraded alsa?19:32
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sluckxzyou might need to reinstall the driver as well becuase of the kernel change19:32
deper29I did19:32
truepurplesluckxz, I am told that the meteor program is not that good, is there a better way?19:32
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deper29how do I do that?19:32
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sluckxzdeper29: there are ppa repos for .37 and .38 kernels as well.  apparently there is more support in newer kernels without needing to patch alsa.19:34
deper29how do i update my kernel? or do I have to download source and compile?19:34
sluckxzhttp://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa19:35
deper29i'll give 38 a shot19:36
deper29thanks :)19:36
FanshaweHey all. In Open Office calc, how to I sum an entire column?19:36
Fanshawe=sum(column:column) gives a #NAME? error19:36
deper29E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.38-1-generi19:36
deper29*E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.38-1-generic19:37
deper29went with 37 :P19:38
deper29sluckxz: I booted with the 3819:44
deper29now what am I to do?19:44
sluckxzhttp://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa19:44
sluckxz#719:44
sluckxzthen hopefully you will get hdmi devices in aplay -l19:46
deper29yay!19:46
deper29I did19:46
sluckxzYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!19:46
sluckxzthats bloody awesome.  good job.19:47
deper29thanks for the help on that :)19:47
sluckxzcheers19:47
deper29so now do I just follow the rest of that guide then?19:47
sluckxzi would.19:48
sluckxzyou might just try it now anyway.  at least your hardware is loaded properly.19:48
deper29when I do grep eld_valid /proc/asound/NVidia/eld* I get19:49
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#0.0:eld_valid119:49
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#1.0:eld_valid119:49
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#2.0:eld_valid019:49
deper29/proc/asound/NVidia/eld#3.0:eld_valid019:49
deper29it says I should only have one with the 119:49
deper29I tried, no audio yet19:49
truepurplesluckxz, can you help? Also I followed this http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Installing_XBMC_for_Linux, but it isnt working19:50
deper29gah,I have to take off unfortunately. I will finish later. thanks again, sluckxz :)19:52
deper29away /lunch19:52
deper29fail19:53
sluckxzdeper29: i wouldnt worry to much about the 1's id just pick one and keep going lso it appears aplay has some nice options for probing.19:53
sluckxzcheers!19:53
sluckxztruepurple: what version of linux are you running?19:53
truepurple11.0419:55
sluckxzhttp://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu19:55
sluckxzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1766855 XBMC on UBUNTU 11.04 May 24th, 201119:58
sluckxzyou may have to use unstable apparently.19:58
truepurpleI messed up synaptic somehow, it says "E: Malformed line 63 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)20:06
truepurpleE: The list of sources could not be read.20:06
truepurpleGo to the repository dialog to correct the problem.20:06
truepurpleE: _cache->open() failed, please report.20:06
truepurpleBut how am I suppose to fix this issue, if I can't get into synaptic in the first place?20:06
truepurplesluckxz,20:08
sluckxzfix the file /etc/apt/sources.list20:08
sluckxzlook around line 6320:09
sluckxzhttps://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/configuration.html20:09
sluckxzhttp://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=326720:14
sluckxzthat thread suggested that using mkvtoolnix 3.4 or greater repaired some mks ff capability simply by opening and resaving the mkv.  didnt work for everyone.20:14
sskalnikHow might I discover which package installed a given file?20:16
truepurplesluckxz, so if I used the first install instructions, it will give me 3.4 or better?20:20
sluckxzsskalnik: dpkg -S filename maybe?20:21
sluckxzwhat instructions truepurple20:21
truepurple http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu20:22
sluckxzim not so sure a new video player will help with ff or rewind if vlc cant do it.20:22
truepurplesluckxz, so how can I fix this index thing?20:24
sluckxzwell recoding is probly the surest way unfortunately.20:25
sluckxzagain some people had some luck with mkvtoolnix.20:26
sskalnikEr, I mean for a file that isn't on the system.20:26
sskalnikdpkg -S only finds stuff I already have installed.20:26
sskalnikIt may help if I elaborate; perhaps there is a better approach to my issue that I have not thought of as yet20:27
sskalnikI'm trying to perform an unattended install using a preseed file. I need a software RAID 1 between two drives, split into five partitions for /, /usr, /home, etc. Everything goes smoothly until partway into the partitioning. When I drop to the second terminal, I get this all throughout the syslog:20:30
sskalnik"can't open /var/lib/partman/outfifo: no such file"20:30
truepurplesluckxz, also it seems my previous attempts at installing xbmc have left some garbage files that dont work in my repository, could there be other such residue files too? if so, how do I clear em out?20:39
sluckxzthere should be info in dpkg.log truepurple.  i have never been satisifed with my knowledge of removing and purging files with apt based distros.20:47
sluckxzsorry sskalnik i have no idea.  see lots of bugs googling partman/outfifo even recent bugs in debian and ubuntu20:48
sskalniksluckxz, thanks though21:01
sluckxzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-base/+bug/569900/comments/221:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 569900 in partman-base "partman sometimes creates partitions such that there is ambiguity between whether the superblock is on the disk device or the partition device" [High,Fix released]21:05
sskalnikhrm21:17
truepurplesluckxz, so any more thoughts on how to get around this broken index video issue?21:38
sluckxzi cant think of any easy/fast fixes for messed up mkv's.  i would try out mkvtoolnix as a second to last resort before recoding entirely.21:57
bobweaverHi there I have a question that is geared around making a .deb23:13
bobweaverI guess the real question is can I have the script call to the .fw to mv them to /lib/firmware/ well the .deb is still there. kinda confusing sorry. I will sart over again 1) build script that installed b43 ect 2) add script to build folder with icon and .desktop and test.txt 3) make tar 4) put tar in folder 5) run db_make 6 ) get rid of old tar and go into new debian folder and work on config and what not rules beeing the most23:13
bobweaverimportant. this is the part that I am confused about. if the firmare is in the package can I tell it under rulles to put in /lib/firmware/ or do I make so it makes new folder that then script (.desktop) then calles to that folder and then mvs all the stuff. I guess I have never had a .deb package that works that way or that I have seen. so I guess the real question is how to get the firmware files to the /lib/firmware/ for the end user.23:13
bobweaver thanks so much for your time and reading this :>)23:13
bobweaverops that is question 2 not one here is the start23:14
bobweaverHi there I am makeing a .deb file for the b43 and b43 legacy drivers and firmware. this is the 1st time that I have made a .deb package. I want to store the firmware in the packge but how to call for the firmware to be moved to /lib/firmware in the script if the .fw files are in the .deb package ?23:14
sluckxzhttp://pkgs.org/ubuntu-11.04/ubuntu-multiverse-i386/prism2-usb-firmware-installer_0.2.9+dfsg-4_i386.deb.html#files23:28
sluckxzhttp://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/firmware-bnx2/download23:28
sluckxzboth seem to have the firmware in the lib/firmware already.23:29
bobweaverThe point is is that I want to become a deveolper. and yes they might have some firmware for lenny and i386  but I am taking this time to learn how to make .deb and how to help out more areound the block so to say23:35
bobweaverso I guess that it is not really about the package but more about the knowledge23:36
sluckxzmy point is apparently it is common to have the firmware in the path.23:36
sluckxzthere is an ubuntu beginner dev channel somewhere.  last i was there they were helpful and friendly.23:36
bobweaverah cool23:36
bobweavercool23:37
bobweaverwill look for it thanks sluckxz you are aawesome ! :>)23:37
sluckxzcheers23:37
* bobweaver high 5s sluckxz 23:37
sluckxzfist bump23:37
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