[00:30] <Space-Duck> So I installed LAMP via tasksel and I'm trying to make a link between /var/www and my home dir, but I'm not sure of the best way to do it. Any help?
[00:30] <Space-Duck> I'm looking at "Solutions 2" on this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46331/how-to-avoid-using-sudo-when-working-in-var-www
[00:31] <Space-Duck> Is that a good way to go about it?
[02:43] <JackyAlcine> How do you change the user agent in Firefox in 11.10 (Ubuntu)?
[02:43]  * JackyAlcine feels a bit embarrassed for asking. >_<
[05:36] <deper29> hey guys, I'm trying to follow this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules but am running into troubles when I have to install the linux-alsa-driver-modules package
[05:37] <deper29> what I get is this: deper29@Fermat:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[05:37] <deper29> Reading package lists... Done
[05:37] <deper29> Building dependency tree
[05:37] <deper29> Reading state information... Done
[05:37] <deper29> E: Couldn't find package linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-35-generic
[05:37] <ashickur-noor> deper29:  which sound card do you use?
[05:38] <deper29> I'm trying to run this through the HDMI on my graphics card
[05:38] <ashickur-noor> give the output of lspci
[05:39] <ashickur-noor> run this  uname -r
[05:39] <deper29> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733895/
[05:39] <deper29> 2.6.32-35-generic
[05:40] <ashickur-noor> ok
[05:41] <ashickur-noor> search it on synaptic package manager
[05:41] <ashickur-noor> by ''linux-alsa-driver-modules''
[05:41] <deper29> search the linux-alsa-driver-modules?
[05:41] <deper29> kk
[05:41] <ashickur-noor> then see what happen
[05:42] <ashickur-noor> goto synaptic package manager
[05:42] <ashickur-noor> search by this name ''linux-alsa-driver-modules''
[05:42] <deper29> all of hte stuff in there is for 2.6.32
[05:42] <deper29> it looks like
[05:43] <ashickur-noor> there must be 2.6.32-35
[05:45] <deper29> http://imagebin.org/183434
[05:45] <deper29> just that
[05:45] <deper29> :(
[05:45] <deper29> goes up to 2.6.32.34
[05:45] <deper29> *-34
[05:47] <ashickur-noor> then install the *.34
[05:47] <ashickur-noor> I think it should work
[05:47] <ashickur-noor> *.35 is not released yet
[05:48] <deper29> k, I will do that
[05:48] <deper29> I can do it through synaptic right? I don't need to use terminal?
[05:49] <ashickur-noor> synaptic is best
[05:49] <deper29> kk
[05:49] <deper29> just going ot reboot
[05:49] <ashickur-noor> ok
[05:49] <deper29> back in a bit! thanks :)
[05:51] <ashickur-noor> can any body give me a screensot of 10.10 startup screen
[05:51] <deper29> back
[05:52] <ashickur-noor> deper29:  is it works?
[05:52] <ashickur-noor> IAmNotThatGuy:  hi
[05:52] <deper29> still going through the rest :P
[05:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hello ashickur-noor
[05:52] <ashickur-noor> deper29:  let us know what is going on
[05:53] <ashickur-noor> IAmNotThatGuy:  which version u r using now?
[05:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> ashickur-noor: Currently, I am not at my machine. I use Lucid and  2 Oneiric =]
[05:54] <ashickur-noor> hum
[05:54] <ashickur-noor> I need some pic of 10.10, so I asked
[05:54] <deper29> kk, almost finished here
[05:55] <deper29> no dice :(
[05:55] <deper29> essentially, this is what I'm trying to do
[05:55] <deper29> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737
[05:56] <IAmNotThatGuy> ashickur-noor: PM
[05:56] <deper29> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733903/
[05:58] <ashickur-noor> deper29: then I can not help you
[05:59] <ashickur-noor> I don't have any experience of HDMI
[05:59] <deper29> okay
[05:59] <deper29> thanks for your help so far :)
[05:59] <ashickur-noor> deper29: 1 thing
[05:59] <deper29> yeah?
[05:59] <ashickur-noor> use backdated kernel version of *.34
[05:59] <deper29> like, when I boot?
[05:59] <ashickur-noor> u r using *.35
[06:00] <deper29> how do I do that?
[06:00] <ashickur-noor> ya, if it is install
[06:00] <ashickur-noor> don't you have old kernel in ur OS?
[06:00] <deper29> I have the option upon boot to go *.34
[06:00] <deper29> yeah
[06:01] <ashickur-noor> then use that
[06:01] <deper29> and see if it works?
[06:01] <deper29> I will give it a shot I guess :P
[06:01] <deper29> thanks again :)
[06:01] <ashickur-noor> try
[06:03] <ashickur-noor> any one can you tell me about Ubuntu logo trademark?
[06:04] <ashickur-noor> Can I edit the logo to print on some meterial?
[06:05] <ashickur-noor> ??
[06:10] <deper29> I hit a small hiccup
[06:10] <deper29> deper29@Fermat:~$ grep eld_valid /proc/asound/NVidia/eld*
[06:10] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#0.0:eld_valid		1
[06:10] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#1.0:eld_valid		1
[06:10] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#2.0:eld_valid		0
[06:10] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#3.0:eld_valid		0
[06:10] <deper29> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737
[06:10] <deper29> according to that thread, I should only have one line that returns 1
[06:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> May I know the actual issue?
[06:14] <ashickur-noor> IAmNotThatGuy:  to whome?
[06:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> deper
[06:16] <deper29> I'm trying to get HDMI sound from my graphics card to my TV
[06:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> ashickur-noor: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[06:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> deper29: tried killing pulseaudio and restarting?
[06:17] <ashickur-noor> IAmNotThatGuy:  thnx
[06:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> ashickur-noor: you might also need https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[06:19] <deper29> how do I do that?
[06:21] <IAmNotThatGuy> killall pulseaudio in terminal?
[06:22] <bioterror> pulseaudio -k
[06:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> even 'pulseaudio -k' in terminal will be enough I believe
[06:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror: :P
[06:22] <deper29> okay
[06:22] <deper29> did it
[06:22] <bioterror> do you always repeat what I say? :D
[06:22] <deper29> lol
[06:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror: Sometimes :P
[06:23] <IAmNotThatGuy> deper29: check whether you can play sound. If not, try pulseaudio --check
[06:23] <bioterror> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NXfYc7QPkKU/TRwcyQpSg9I/AAAAAAAAAnU/6pB2K8KnJz8/s1600/Screenshot-Ubuntu-Sound-Preferences.png what does that hardware tab say?
[06:23] <IAmNotThatGuy> bioterror: you should reduce the speed that you respond so that we can post in same time :P
[06:24] <bioterror> do you have that HDMI device activated?
[06:24] <deper29> I have it connected
[06:24] <deper29> what do you mean activated?
[06:24] <IAmNotThatGuy> Are the drivers set and are active?
[06:24] <deper29> yes
[06:25] <IAmNotThatGuy> goto sound preferenced and you will get a screen as mentioned by bioterror
[06:25] <IAmNotThatGuy> s/preferenced/preferences
[06:27] <deper29> hardware tab says HDA NVidia
[06:27] <deper29> Profile: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output
[06:33] <deper29> ??
[08:17] <the^user> goeden morgen
[08:18] <the^user> dit is dus voor de beginnende ubuntu gebruikers
[08:19] <nlsthzn> !gb
[08:19] <ubot2> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[08:19] <nlsthzn> doh :p
[08:19] <nlsthzn> the^user: hi... english please :)
[08:19] <the^user> zou iemanmd mij kunnen helpen met het instellen van mijn gmail account in evolution, ik heb de website met de stap voor stap instructie voor mij liggen, maar ik kan nergens een wachtwoord invullen.
[08:20] <the^user> english
[08:20] <the^user> oeps
[08:20] <the^user> is there a channel voore beginners dutch
[08:20] <Unit193> !nl
[08:20] <ubot2> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[08:21] <the^user> uboth thnx
[08:21] <nlsthzn> Unit193: ah thanks...
[08:24] <the^user> i try it in english
[08:25] <nlsthzn> the^user: check the -nl channel I am trying to assist ;)
[08:25] <the^user> i cant configurate evolution for my e mail account i have the website that i need i follow these staps but it dont work, als my button to get my e mail in evolution dopnt work.
[08:26] <nlsthzn> but not in dutch :p
[08:26] <nlsthzn> guys, in Evolution to save your password... when do you fill it in as there is no option when setting up the account?
[08:27] <the^user> yes
[08:28] <the^user> thsats my problem also
[08:28] <nlsthzn> the^user: I know, that is why I am asking ;)
[08:28] <the^user> hahaha oke :)
[08:29] <the^user> i,m not blond but sometimes iḿ not working propperly
[08:29] <the^user> i think braindamage
[12:05] <ashickur-noor> need some regarding pgp key
[12:12] <ashickur-noor> How to sign a document using my openpgp key? Any one can tell me?	
[12:14] <ashickur-noor> IAmNotThatGuy:
[12:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hi
[12:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> ashickur-noor: You should see http://www.wikihow.com/Sign-the-Ubuntu-Code-of-Conduct
[12:18] <ashickur-noor> IAmNotThatGuy:  I have already sign it
[12:18] <ashickur-noor> the method is CLI
[12:18] <ashickur-noor> I need some GUI
[12:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> Nope. In that they have said about how to get the digital signature
[12:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> I am already held up with works dude. Sorry. I ll get you once my work is done.
[12:20] <ashickur-noor> IAmNotThatGuy:  OK
[12:24] <ashickur-noor> How can I work cannon ip1980 On Ubuntu 10.04?
[12:26] <ashickur-noor> head_victim:
[12:32] <IAmNotThatGuy> ashickur-noor: It will be better to not to ping each person as they might not be available. Kindly watch out regarding this
[12:32] <ashickur-noor> Ok
[12:37] <ashickur-noor> Is anybody here?
[12:41] <Snicksie> yeah, im here :)
[12:41] <ashickur-noor> How can I work cannon ip1980 On Ubuntu 10.04?
[12:41] <Snicksie> i'll have a look for you ashickur-noor, but there's always a possibility it doesnt work yet in ubuntu ;)
[12:42] <ashickur-noor> Snicksie: then what can I use?
[12:42] <Snicksie> patience please, im taking a look. as soon as i've found something i'll let you know ;)
[12:43] <Snicksie> http://www.jdam.us/2010/07/07/canon-ip1980-printer-via-linux-ubuntu-10-04/ : have you tried this yet, ashickur-noor ?
[12:43] <ashickur-noor> let me check
[12:45] <ashickur-noor> I will confirm you latter
[13:40] <ashickur-noor> Which type of file I can sign by using OpenPGP key
[13:47] <ashickur-noor> Need some help to digitally sign a pdf file
[13:47] <ashickur-noor> have anybody test it?
[13:50] <ashickur-noor> Can anybody help me?
[13:51]  * nlsthzn has only had to difitally sign one document, and there was a how-to :)
[14:27] <E3D3> How can I get the full location from a file in nautilus ? Properties show it partly.
[14:37] <Hardtack> I'm attempting to put Ubuntu 11.10 on a 32G Sandisk pen drive.  I reformatted the drive Fat 32 and gave it a 4G persistence file.  When I reboot my HP dv9820 laptop, I receive an error message, "Could not find kernel image: /casper/vmlinuz"  Would someone please help me?
[14:38] <nlsthzn> Hardtack: which method did you use to create the USB?
[14:41] <Hardtack> nlsthan: I'm having Brainlock - give me a minute please
[14:41] <E3D3> Hardtack: I like MultiSystem (http://liveusb.info/dotclear/)
[14:45] <Hardtack> nlsthan: my method was Universal-USB-installer-1.8.6.8.exe
[14:47] <nlsthzn> Hardtack: hmmm... that is the "official" method as described on the ubuntu site... so it is strange that it didn't work...
[14:48]  * nlsthzn is on his way home from work now... so hopefully one of the guru's will step up and fix you in two seconds flat...
[14:49] <geirha> Some hardware has problems booting when the usb is persistent. I'm not sure why, or if that is still the case.
[14:53] <Hardtack> geirha: On a previous attempt, I used Universal-USB-installer-1.8.6.8.exe and set the installation for NO persistent file.  On that occasion I received an error message, "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image".  I gave up on that, and reformatted the stick WITH a persistent file, resulting in this chat.
[14:56] <holstein> Hardtack: i typically just install to the USB stick, and put grub on there
[14:58] <Hardtack> holstein: I don't understand "grub", other than something I eat!
[14:58] <holstein> grub is the boot loader that ubuntu uses by default
[14:59] <holstein> !info grub2
[14:59] <holstein> !grub
[14:59] <ubot2> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[14:59] <holstein> *if* you were to actually install ubuntu, that sould replace the bootloader you are using (by default)
[15:00] <holstein> if you had windows on there, it would repace the windows bootloader (which will only boot windows) and install grub which will install both
[15:00] <holstein> well, not install, it will allow both linux and windows to boot
[15:00] <holstein> but, thats not what you want
[15:01] <holstein> you want a persistent USB... and i see no advantage to that being live... i get a USB stick, and the alternate ISO's still allow for customizing where grub goes
[15:01] <Hardtack> ubot2: There's no Windows section on this stick.  Does the subject "Lost GRUB after installing Windows?" apply to me?
[15:01] <ubot2> Hardtack: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:02] <holstein> Hardtack: that is an error that can result
[15:02] <Hardtack> My error - sorry.
[15:02] <holstein> no worries...
[15:06] <Hardtack> holstein: I'm chatting on a Windows machine.  Please tell me how to "!info grub2" without Linux.
[15:07] <holstein> Hardtack: you dont have grub on that windows machine
[15:07] <holstein> what im suggesting is an alternative to the persisent live scenario
[15:08] <holstein> where, you would actually install ubuntu, using the USB stick as the destination, then installing grub (for the bootloader) to that same USB stick
[15:08] <holstein> this is again the method i prefer, since i end up with a traditional normal system, just one that is on a USB stick
[15:09] <holstein> Hardtack: what are you using to create the stick that you are trying to make?
[15:09] <Hardtack> holstein: Oops, we didn't/_I_ didn't communicate well.  Yes, I know that I don't have grub on a Windows machine.  How to I use my Windows machine to !linfo for the grub that may not be in exist on my stick?
[15:10] <holstein> Hardtack: did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent ??
[15:10] <Hardtack> holstein: above I replied to nlsthan: my method was Universal-USB-installer-1.8.6.8.exe
[15:10] <holstein> i personally use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[15:11] <holstein> but again, i dont do persistence that way ^^
[15:13] <Hardtack> holstein: To your question, "did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent ??", I looked at it some three hours ago, but my first impression is that it doesn't have anything to do with my problem.
[15:15] <holstein> Hardtack: what would you lie for me to help you with?
[15:16] <holstein> i feel like the error you are encountering could be anything from the stick being bad, to a bad downloaded image, to something with the usb creator you are using
[15:16] <holstein> i personally tried the usb creator a few years ago, and it didnt work well for me, so i went back with unetbootin
[15:20] <Hardtack> holstein: If I knew, I wouldn't be asking for help.  Just tell me "load /casper/vmlinuz from the website www.universalfixes.net and install it in your root directory using the executable file 'smashed_grub.bin'." or some such.
[15:20] <holstein> Hardtack: unfortunately theres not an easy answer... a 'click this and all is well' answer
[15:21] <holstein> i would suggest using unetbooting with that usb stick and that downloaded image ot make just a normal bootable live stick
[15:21] <holstein> that will tell you the image is good, and the stick is good, and give you a result that is positive
[15:21] <Hardtack> holstein: Thank you for your assistance.  I think I'll wait and see if another expert can help.
[15:22] <holstein> then, you can go from there, changing the stick out, or trying a different downloaded image
[15:22] <holstein> Hardtack: sure... good luck :)
[15:24] <holstein> Hardtack: you might find some assistance with your ubuntu loco team http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[15:24] <holstein> but i assure you , to diagnose whats going on, you will need to be cooperative with *some* form of troubleshooting at some point
[15:24] <Hardtack> holstein: I'll give http://locoubuntu.com/ a try.  Thanks!
[15:27] <Hardtack> holstein: Firefox rerouted http://locoubuntu.com to www.locoubuntu.com and reports it can't find the server.
[15:28] <holstein> you can just click here >> http://loco.ubuntu.com/ or type it in as-is
[15:28] <holstein> you need a *.* after the loco
[15:28] <Hardtack> holstein: I clicked and told you what Firefox reported.
[15:28] <holstein> http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[15:30] <Hardtack> holstein: Ah!  It appears that you left out an important <dot> in the original address.  Thanks.
[15:30] <holstein> Hardtack: typically, the channels are laid out like this... i am in north carolina, US, so my loco is
[15:30] <holstein>  #ubuntu-us-nc
[15:31] <holstein> you can likely just guess the channel you want to try... /join #ubuntu-us-tx or however the particular chat client you use connects
[15:38] <holstein> also, just to clarify, and you can check the scroll back.. the dot is missing in the response you typed, and thats likely the link you clicked on, resutling in the error Hardtack
[15:39] <Hardtack> holstein: I agree.  My error, not yours.  Thanks.
[16:50] <truepurple>  This site https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa, says "You'll see that the text-box directly below reads something like this ...Copy those lines." copy, as in input them into terminal too?
[16:52] <hobgoblin> truepurple: if you have a newish version the easiest thing to do is sudo add-apt-repository ppa:handbrake-ubuntu/ppa
[16:53] <truepurple> I did that, and I did the update thing
[16:53] <truepurple> but hobgoblin that was not enough for the program to appear it seems
[16:53] <hobgoblin> you need to install it as well - that just adds the repo and when you updated made the package available for install
[16:54] <truepurple> how do I install it?
[16:54] <hobgoblin> sudo apt-get install handbrake   if that's the name of the package
[16:54] <hobgoblin> or you could use software centre
[16:55] <truepurple> It isnt listed there
[16:55] <truepurple> hobgoblin, know of another way to fix videos without indexes for rewinding and fastforwarding?
[16:55] <hobgoblin> nope - sorry
[16:56] <truepurple> that line didnt work
[16:56] <truepurple> "E: Unable to locate package handbrake"
[16:56] <hobgoblin> apt-cache search handbrake
[16:56] <truepurple> no good
[16:57] <truepurple> I did the line, it went to prompt again, did previous line, it didnt install
[16:57] <hobgoblin> oh hang on - there is only a version for natty - not oneiric
[16:57] <truepurple> what is the name of 11.04?
[16:59] <hobgoblin> natty
[17:00] <hobgoblin> truepurple: do you have 11.04?
[17:00] <hobgoblin> hi haqking
[17:00] <truepurple> yes
[17:00] <haqking> hi piskie
[17:01] <truepurple> hobgoblin, what is its name, is it natty or oneiric?
[17:08] <hobgoblin> truepurple: 11.04 is natty
[17:10] <hobgoblin> truepurple: do you know how to use pastebins? open a terminal run command that follows and copy it to the pastebin - enter and give me the link - please do not paste it all in here
[17:10] <hobgoblin> truepurple: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:10] <hobgoblin> that is a lower case L not an I or a 1
[17:11] <hobgoblin> oh lol - nvm I lied - it only goes to lucid
[17:11] <hobgoblin> hang on - I did find a link
[17:11] <hobgoblin> try this  one - possibly it has a natty version - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11430209&postcount=2
[17:14] <truepurple> hobgoblin, it says 11.10, that means it will work for 11.04 too?
[17:15] <truepurple> I guess so
[17:16] <hobgoblin> no idea - it might - I'm sort of in the middle of some r/l stuff and haven;t had time to backtrack to find the ppa page
[17:17] <hobgoblin> truepurple: yes it does
[17:18] <truepurple> hobgoblin, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:18] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:18] <truepurple> What do I need to shut down?
[17:22] <hobgoblin> software centre perhaps
[17:22] <hobgoblin> anything that is accessing the dpkg lock - so anything that's installing anything
[17:25] <dangertux> alternatively you could do sudo killall -9 apt (this will stop anything using apt and probably make it crash just a fair warning) then retry to use apt to do the update/install/whatever
[17:28] <truepurple> gah, weird things are suddenly happening with my system
[17:29] <truepurple> I can't get into nautilus, windows of nautilus that were already up first hanged with the cursor, and then went blank, and small up ups keep on coming up, that are blank white
[17:31] <truepurple> hobgoblin, dangertux
[17:31] <dangertux> yes?
[17:32] <hobgoblin> I'm not going to be much help with ubuntu - I use something else
[17:32] <dangertux> truepurple - I would try rebooting it and see if it's still doing it
[17:32] <hobgoblin> truepurple: if you've got a terminal open you could try running top to see what's at the top
[17:33] <truepurple> "running top"? what does that mean hobgoblin?
[17:34] <hobgoblin> it's a program in terminal, tells you what things are running and cpu usage and the like
[17:34] <truepurple> how do I start it hobgoblin?
[17:35] <hobgoblin> type top in a terminal
[17:37] <truepurple> hmm, well it seems to have resolved itself now
[17:39] <hobgoblin> might be worth keeping an eye on that - if it happens again - remember top in terminal :)
[17:39] <truepurple> you dont know anything about handbreak?
[17:42] <hobgoblin> nope - sorry - no idea even as to what it is :)
[17:48] <truepurple> hobgoblin, know anything about methods to fix indexing on videos?
[17:48] <hobgoblin> sorry
[17:50] <hobgoblin> if there's no-one in here jumps in to say I do either hang about or maybe have a look on the forum - perhaps use googlbuntu to search it
[17:52] <truepurple> not had much success with forum, even with easier questions
[17:53] <hobgoblin> well I have had no problem using it personally.
[17:53] <truepurple> using the forum? The problem is that people rarely respond and help from my exp
[17:54] <zkriesse> truepurple: Eh depends upon how you ask
[17:55] <zkriesse> Most people just browse it to find answers for their own questions...They rarely help I agree but it's because half the time they aren't there to help
[17:55] <zkriesse> Its the rock-solid contributors from the deep, dark, mysterious past like hobgoblin who help :P
[17:57] <hobgoblin> truepurple: if you've had problems getting help from the forum - have a look at one of the stickies in the ABT forum - might help
[17:58] <truepurple> link to this abt forum please
[17:58] <zkriesse> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=1f80d5fb4461f4515d5e6818fe71b0ad&f=326
[17:59] <zkriesse> It's the "Absolute Beginners Talk" section
[17:59] <zkriesse> Lot of those questions get answered and talked about
[17:59] <truepurple> btw, it seems it is thia handbreak thing that is causing trouble with my system
[17:59] <truepurple> that is where I have gone before
[18:01] <hobgoblin> truepurple: this post - read it - might help might not http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8920811&postcount=1
[18:01] <hobgoblin> anyway I'm off for a while now
[18:02] <truepurple> hobgoblin, something in that handbreak program is causing major problems with naut, how can I shut it down?
[18:02] <zkriesse> You could just kill it from terminal
[18:02] <zkriesse> p aux grep it
[18:03] <truepurple> how? I mean I already closed the program itself, but its side effects continue
[18:03] <hobgoblin> zkriesse: this is the beginners help channel - might help to explain that lol
[18:03] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: Yeah I'm working on it :P
[18:03] <hobgoblin> anyway - as I said - I'm off now
[18:04] <zkriesse> truepurple: Even when you "close" a program there might on occasion still be a background process or processes from said program running
[18:04] <zkriesse> Naturally because they're in the background you can't just click "Close"
[18:04] <truepurple> I would try to kill something in system monitor, but I dont see anything obvious to kill
[18:04] <zkriesse> Yeah see that's the first tatic you can take
[18:04] <zkriesse> But like you say, nothing obvious
[18:05] <zkriesse> Now, you can do a grep search from terminal and then kill it and that should be the end of it...if that fails (I.E. it comes up with nothing related to said program) then we'd have to try and figure something out
[18:05] <truepurple> nautilus is runninh and using 96% of my cpu?!
[18:05] <zkriesse> Lemme grab my cheat sheet for aux grep etc...moment plz
[18:05] <zkriesse> Nautilus is a bugger
[18:06] <truepurple> should I force close it?
[18:06] <zkriesse> You can try, or you could do a system shut down and then reboot to see if that helps first...
[18:06] <zkriesse> I'd recommend that first before you start killing processes off like bad guys in a saloon
[18:07] <truepurple> another is npviewer at 52%, hey that is more then 100%, how is that possible
[18:07] <hobgoblin> try killall nautilus - it'd restart automatically
[18:07] <hobgoblin> now I'm really off lol
[18:07] <truepurple> what is wrong with killing processes? That is what shut down does anyway
[18:09] <zkriesse> Well there's nothing wrong perce, just in my opinion I recommend a shutdown first because that way they get shut down in an orderly fashion, instead of random with the possibility of crashing other system resources etc
[18:10] <truepurple> crashinh other system resources could cause damage zkriesse ?
[18:10] <zkriesse> Not saying it wil but i've had weirder things happen :P
[18:10] <zkriesse> Sorry if I get you confused, i'm coming off a cold here so my brain is still a bit wacked
[18:11] <truepurple> but how can I directly shutdown the after effects of this handbreak program zkriesse
[18:13] <zkriesse> lemme research a sec
[18:18] <zkriesse> Ok so you're using that video transcoder thingy?
[18:18] <truepurple> i used it
[18:19] <truepurple> trying to fix the index on a program
[18:19] <zkriesse> Ok
[18:19] <zkriesse> And now your system is doing what exactly
[18:19] <truepurple> zkriesse, But I shut it down some time ago
[18:19] <truepurple> nautilus is all locked up
[18:20] <zkriesse> ah ok
[18:20] <zkriesse> You could try just killing nautilus then like hobgoblin suggested
[18:20] <truepurple> its using a crazy amount of cpu usage ( how can one program use 96% cpu, and another 52%?)
[18:21] <truepurple> how can there be 148% cpu usage?
[18:21] <zkriesse> ouch
[18:21] <zkriesse> yeah, kill it
[18:21] <truepurple> that was a actual question
[18:21] <zkriesse> Something is totally off...that shouldn't be happening
[18:21] <zkriesse> I have no idea to be honest
[18:21] <truepurple> there was also strange blank popups
[18:22] <zkriesse> ?
[18:24] <truepurple> That question is too vague to answer
[18:25] <zkriesse> I meant surprise man
[18:25] <zkriesse> That is just really odd
[18:27] <truepurple> well this handbreak program seems too buggy
[18:27] <truepurple> you don't know of a better way to fix video indexing?
[18:28] <zkriesse> Nope sorry :(
[18:28] <sluckxz> avidemux works pretty slick not sure about indexing and doesnt work great with x264.  awesome for muxing.
[18:29] <truepurple> what is x264, and what is muxing sluckxz
[18:29] <truepurple> and what is avidemux for?
[18:33] <sluckxz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avidemux
[18:33] <sluckxz> video editing.
[18:35] <truepurple> sluckxz, sorry, I don't understand most of that, please put it in simpler language what all that is
[18:35] <sluckxz> what language do you prefer?
[18:35] <truepurple> what is x264, and what is muxing
[18:36] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
[18:38] <deper29> hey guys, wondering if you could help me a bit here. I am having a hard time getting sound from HDMI set up in 10.04. I have an Nvidia GTX 550 Ti card
[18:39] <deper29> I found this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737 but it isn't working for me :/
[18:40] <truepurple> what is x264, and what is muxing sluckxz
[18:42] <sluckxz> truepurple: you will have to read that on your own or find someone else to read it to you i am not willing to do that for you. bioterror gave a link to 264 info and here is one on multiplexing. http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/term.cfm/multiplexing
[18:44] <truepurple> Well this does not seem to have alot of bearing on fixing those video indexings
[18:45] <sluckxz> deper29: did aplay -l show an hdmi device?
[18:46] <deper29> no, just a usb sound device and my sound card
[18:47] <deper29> i don't want to go through sound card at this instant in time, just because i haven't set up house properly yet, and am running through tv speakers
[18:48] <sluckxz> you have to have the nvidia proprietary drivers installed to get hdmi audio.
[18:48] <sluckxz> System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers  did you do that?
[18:49] <deper29> says it's activated
[18:49] <sluckxz> whats your cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version output?\
[18:52] <sluckxz> this guy got the correct driver working in 10.10 http://bpowers.org/?p=10  with a little work around to get more current
[18:53] <deper29> NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  285.05.09  Fri Sep 23 17:31:57 PDT 2011
[18:53] <deper29> GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5)
[18:55] <deper29> so you think I should add that repository then?
[18:56] <deper29> because my version seems newer than that guy's
[18:58] <sluckxz> hope you can get dmesg | grep -i hdmi or aplay -l to list some hdmi audio devices.  seems like a driver / hardware issue to me.  so no i wouldnt try to find anything older but i might try anything newer.
[19:00] <sluckxz> If you do not see a nvidia sound device you need to upgrade to a properly patched alsa 1.0.23 or 2.6.35+ kernel
[19:00] <sluckxz> very end of step one. in that article.
[19:01] <deper29> my kernel is 2.6.32-35-generic
[19:01] <sluckxz> if it seems you have the correct driver and you do and you do not see hdmi audio hardware listed patch alsa and kernel.  lol  sorry man.
[19:02] <deper29> that's okay
[19:02] <deper29> thanks for trying :)
[19:02] <sluckxz> go for it!  patch it and compile a kernel!
[19:02] <sluckxz> or just upgrade i suppose.  bummer thats a bit of a tough one.
[19:03] <sluckxz> im running 11.10 and hdmi audio works slick out of the box.
[19:04] <sluckxz> it looks to me you only have to do one or the other.
[19:04] <sluckxz> upgraded kernel or.. patch alsa
[19:05] <sluckxz> i patched alsa once before in slackware i think and it wasnt that horrible.  i found a great tutorial on patching alsa
[19:05] <deper29> I don't know how to patch that stuff lol
[19:05] <deper29> time for some more googling and reading I guess
[19:06] <deper29> might as well learn :P
[19:06] <sluckxz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules  looks pretty doable not to tough.
[19:07] <sluckxz> looks pre compiled in that link.  just bleeding edge apparently.
[19:08] <sluckxz> great attitude deper29
[19:09] <deper29> E: Couldn't find package linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-35-generic
[19:09] <truepurple> Can anyone please help me fix indexing for mkv files?
[19:09] <deper29> that isn't sarcasm is it?
[19:09] <sluckxz> no way.
[19:09] <deper29> lol, cool :P
[19:10] <deper29> thanks
[19:10] <sluckxz> thats how i learn.  i either keep trying or give up.
[19:10] <deper29> lol
[19:10] <deper29> it's the best way
[19:10] <sluckxz> its awesome to 'grok' things.
[19:10] <deper29> I don't like giving up though
[19:13] <sluckxz> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa
[19:14] <deper29> ooooh :D
[19:14] <deper29> you're a wonderful human being
[19:14] <sluckxz> brad figg compiled drivers and uploaded 2011-10-6 2.6.32-34.201110061437
[19:14] <deper29> wait
[19:14] <deper29> I see the 35 in there
[19:14] <sluckxz> .35-30
[19:15] <sluckxz> or 32.34
[19:15] <deper29> oh, i see
[19:16] <sluckxz> looks like you got some choices to make regarding the kernel or compiling yourself.
[19:16] <deper29> yes :/
[19:16] <deper29> hold on, I am going to boot into a 32-34 kernel
[19:17] <sluckxz> truepurple: whats the problem with your mkv?
[19:20] <truepurple> sluckxz, the indexing on many a video file I have is broken so I can not fast-forward or rewind them
[19:24] <sluckxz> deper29: there are ppas for .37 and .38 kernels!
[19:24] <truepurple> sluckxz, so can you help
[19:24] <sluckxz> not sure truepurple what video player do you use?
[19:25] <sluckxz> im encoding an mkv right now.  i dont have any issues ff rw using xbmc with my mkv's
[19:26] <truepurple> Totem and vlc, but it doesnt matter, the ones with the bad index have trouble fastforwarding and rewinding, and the ones that have fine indexs, don't have trouble
[19:26] <truepurple> what is xbmc, a player?
[19:27] <sluckxz> yes.  media center.
[19:27] <sluckxz> http://meteorite.sourceforge.net/download.php
[19:31] <deper29> sluckxz: I am in 34, no dice
[19:31] <deper29> doesn't list my stuff for some reason
[19:32] <sluckxz> and you upgraded alsa?
[19:32] <sluckxz> you might need to reinstall the driver as well becuase of the kernel change
[19:32] <deper29> I did
[19:32] <truepurple> sluckxz, I am told that the meteor program is not that good, is there a better way?
[19:32] <deper29> how do I do that?
[19:34] <sluckxz> deper29: there are ppa repos for .37 and .38 kernels as well.  apparently there is more support in newer kernels without needing to patch alsa.
[19:34] <deper29> how do i update my kernel? or do I have to download source and compile?
[19:35] <sluckxz> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa
[19:36] <deper29> i'll give 38 a shot
[19:36] <deper29> thanks :)
[19:36] <Fanshawe> Hey all. In Open Office calc, how to I sum an entire column?
[19:36] <Fanshawe> =sum(column:column) gives a #NAME? error
[19:36] <deper29> E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.38-1-generi
[19:37] <deper29> *E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.38-1-generic
[19:38] <deper29> went with 37 :P
[19:44] <deper29> sluckxz: I booted with the 38
[19:44] <deper29> now what am I to do?
[19:44] <sluckxz> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa
[19:44] <sluckxz> #7
[19:46] <sluckxz> then hopefully you will get hdmi devices in aplay -l
[19:46] <deper29> yay!
[19:46] <deper29> I did
[19:46] <sluckxz> YAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!
[19:47] <sluckxz> thats bloody awesome.  good job.
[19:47] <deper29> thanks for the help on that :)
[19:47] <sluckxz> cheers
[19:47] <deper29> so now do I just follow the rest of that guide then?
[19:48] <sluckxz> i would.
[19:48] <sluckxz> you might just try it now anyway.  at least your hardware is loaded properly.
[19:49] <deper29> when I do grep eld_valid /proc/asound/NVidia/eld* I get
[19:49] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#0.0:eld_valid		1
[19:49] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#1.0:eld_valid		1
[19:49] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#2.0:eld_valid		0
[19:49] <deper29> /proc/asound/NVidia/eld#3.0:eld_valid		0
[19:49] <deper29> it says I should only have one with the 1
[19:49] <deper29> I tried, no audio yet
[19:50] <truepurple> sluckxz, can you help? Also I followed this http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Installing_XBMC_for_Linux, but it isnt working
[19:52] <deper29> gah,I have to take off unfortunately. I will finish later. thanks again, sluckxz :)
[19:52] <deper29> away /lunch
[19:53] <deper29> fail
[19:53] <sluckxz> deper29: i wouldnt worry to much about the 1's id just pick one and keep going lso it appears aplay has some nice options for probing.
[19:53] <sluckxz> cheers!
[19:53] <sluckxz> truepurple: what version of linux are you running?
[19:55] <truepurple> 11.04
[19:55] <sluckxz> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu
[19:58] <sluckxz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1766855 XBMC on UBUNTU 11.04 May 24th, 2011
[19:58] <sluckxz> you may have to use unstable apparently.
[20:06] <truepurple> I messed up synaptic somehow, it says "E: Malformed line 63 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[20:06] <truepurple> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[20:06] <truepurple> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[20:06] <truepurple> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[20:06] <truepurple> But how am I suppose to fix this issue, if I can't get into synaptic in the first place?
[20:08] <truepurple> sluckxz,
[20:08] <sluckxz> fix the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:09] <sluckxz> look around line 63
[20:09] <sluckxz> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/configuration.html
[20:14] <sluckxz> http://forum.serviio.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3267
[20:14] <sluckxz> that thread suggested that using mkvtoolnix 3.4 or greater repaired some mks ff capability simply by opening and resaving the mkv.  didnt work for everyone.
[20:16] <sskalnik> How might I discover which package installed a given file?
[20:20] <truepurple> sluckxz, so if I used the first install instructions, it will give me 3.4 or better?
[20:21] <sluckxz> sskalnik: dpkg -S filename maybe?
[20:21] <sluckxz> what instructions truepurple
[20:22] <truepurple>  http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu
[20:22] <sluckxz> im not so sure a new video player will help with ff or rewind if vlc cant do it.
[20:24] <truepurple> sluckxz, so how can I fix this index thing?
[20:25] <sluckxz> well recoding is probly the surest way unfortunately.
[20:26] <sluckxz> again some people had some luck with mkvtoolnix.
[20:26] <sskalnik> Er, I mean for a file that isn't on the system.
[20:26] <sskalnik> dpkg -S only finds stuff I already have installed.
[20:27] <sskalnik> It may help if I elaborate; perhaps there is a better approach to my issue that I have not thought of as yet
[20:30] <sskalnik> I'm trying to perform an unattended install using a preseed file. I need a software RAID 1 between two drives, split into five partitions for /, /usr, /home, etc. Everything goes smoothly until partway into the partitioning. When I drop to the second terminal, I get this all throughout the syslog:
[20:30] <sskalnik> "can't open /var/lib/partman/outfifo: no such file"
[20:39] <truepurple> sluckxz, also it seems my previous attempts at installing xbmc have left some garbage files that dont work in my repository, could there be other such residue files too? if so, how do I clear em out?
[20:47] <sluckxz> there should be info in dpkg.log truepurple.  i have never been satisifed with my knowledge of removing and purging files with apt based distros.
[20:48] <sluckxz> sorry sskalnik i have no idea.  see lots of bugs googling partman/outfifo even recent bugs in debian and ubuntu
[21:01] <sskalnik> sluckxz, thanks though
[21:05] <sluckxz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-base/+bug/569900/comments/2
[21:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 569900 in partman-base "partman sometimes creates partitions such that there is ambiguity between whether the superblock is on the disk device or the partition device" [High,Fix released]
[21:17] <sskalnik> hrm
[21:38] <truepurple> sluckxz, so any more thoughts on how to get around this broken index video issue?
[21:57] <sluckxz> i cant think of any easy/fast fixes for messed up mkv's.  i would try out mkvtoolnix as a second to last resort before recoding entirely.
[23:13] <bobweaver> Hi there I have a question that is geared around making a .deb
[23:13] <bobweaver> I guess the real question is can I have the script call to the .fw to mv them to /lib/firmware/ well the .deb is still there. kinda confusing sorry. I will sart over again 1) build script that installed b43 ect 2) add script to build folder with icon and .desktop and test.txt 3) make tar 4) put tar in folder 5) run db_make 6 ) get rid of old tar and go into new debian folder and work on config and what not rules beeing the most
[23:13] <bobweaver> important. this is the part that I am confused about. if the firmare is in the package can I tell it under rulles to put in /lib/firmware/ or do I make so it makes new folder that then script (.desktop) then calles to that folder and then mvs all the stuff. I guess I have never had a .deb package that works that way or that I have seen. so I guess the real question is how to get the firmware files to the /lib/firmware/ for the end user.
[23:13] <bobweaver>  thanks so much for your time and reading this :>)
[23:14] <bobweaver> ops that is question 2 not one here is the start
[23:14] <bobweaver> Hi there I am makeing a .deb file for the b43 and b43 legacy drivers and firmware. this is the 1st time that I have made a .deb package. I want to store the firmware in the packge but how to call for the firmware to be moved to /lib/firmware in the script if the .fw files are in the .deb package ?
[23:28] <sluckxz> http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-11.04/ubuntu-multiverse-i386/prism2-usb-firmware-installer_0.2.9+dfsg-4_i386.deb.html#files
[23:28] <sluckxz> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/firmware-bnx2/download
[23:29] <sluckxz> both seem to have the firmware in the lib/firmware already.
[23:35] <bobweaver> The point is is that I want to become a deveolper. and yes they might have some firmware for lenny and i386  but I am taking this time to learn how to make .deb and how to help out more areound the block so to say
[23:36] <bobweaver> so I guess that it is not really about the package but more about the knowledge
[23:36] <sluckxz> my point is apparently it is common to have the firmware in the path.
[23:36] <sluckxz> there is an ubuntu beginner dev channel somewhere.  last i was there they were helpful and friendly.
[23:36] <bobweaver> ah cool
[23:37] <bobweaver> cool
[23:37] <bobweaver> will look for it thanks sluckxz you are aawesome ! :>)
[23:37] <sluckxz> cheers
[23:37]  * bobweaver high 5s sluckxz 
[23:37] <sluckxz> fist bump
[23:38] <bobweaver> *0*