| akgraner | nigelb, there is some new video on FB of my kids - just thought you'd like to see it...enjoy | 00:30 |
|---|---|---|
| nigelb | akgraner: haha | 02:24 |
| akgraner | nigelb, the whole family will be total geeks before long... | 02:39 |
| akgraner | and yes by the end of this cycle you have my permission to say I told you so when it come to me losing my NTEU status :-( | 02:39 |
| nigelb | yay! | 02:43 |
| mhall119 | akgraner: before long? who's left to convert, the pets? | 02:57 |
| nigelb | mhall119++ | 02:57 |
| doctormo-other | I think you'd enjoy this pleia2: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wUTOM-U4oBA/TrrjoJVnznI/AAAAAAAAAVo/Fry9_4HWERI/s640/2011%2B-%2B1 | 04:01 |
| pleia2 | doctormo-other: aww, usb stick? | 04:01 |
| doctormo-other | yep! | 04:02 |
| pleia2 | nice :) | 04:02 |
| doctormo-other | Got an install on it ;-) | 04:02 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:56 |
| doctormo-other | Hello dholbach | 08:09 |
| nigelb | Morning dholbach! | 08:09 |
| dholbach | hi doctormo-other, hi nigelb | 08:11 |
| czajkowski | Aloha | 08:37 |
| jussi | morning czajkowski! | 09:03 |
| jussi | BTW, does anyone know who is leading the ubuntu phone efforts ? | 09:03 |
| popey | what ubuntu phone efforts? | 09:04 |
| AlanBell | jussi: someone on deviant art drew a mockup of what they think it would be nice to have | 09:04 |
| jussi | Well, Mark said in his keynote ubuntu would come to phones. Therefore I assume there is an effort to make that happen | 09:05 |
| jussi | on his blog also: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/820 | 09:05 |
| AlanBell | fair enough | 09:06 |
| popey | its an aspiration | 09:06 |
| bkerensa | Good Night All or Morning (Tis 1:32am here) | 09:32 |
| jussi | quote from amber graner.... "I was a "perfect' angel :-) but as my dad points out - so was Lucifer" :D :D :D | 10:04 |
| dpm | jussi, can you remind me, what's the procedure to ask for a bugbot in a channel and ask for it to be logged? | 10:06 |
| jussi | dpm: I think youll find everything in here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | 10:07 |
| jussi | basically ask rt for logging, and dont forget to add the channel entry message. ask me for the bot. :) | 10:08 |
| dpm | jussi, thanks. I cannot find the procedure for requesting a bug bot + logging on those pages. So you're saying I should file an RT? | 10:14 |
| jussi | dpm: ok, maybe we need to make that clearer. the relevant part for logbot: | 10:14 |
| jussi | You can ask for ubuntulog to be added to any official Ubuntu by emailing the request to rt@ubuntu.com. If ubuntulog is present in your channel, you must add the following entry message, or a translated version of the message, via ChanServ: | 10:15 |
| jussi | Welcome to #channel. This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com. Use of this channel implies acceptance of the terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService | 10:15 |
| jussi | dpm: what is the channel the bot is for ? | 10:15 |
| dpm | oh, I see it now, sorry | 10:15 |
| dpm | jussi, #ubuntu-app-devel | 10:16 |
| jussi | ok, I cant actually add that one, you need to grab jpds - for ubot2 (ubot2 -> Team channels A-L) | 10:16 |
| dpm | thanks jussi! | 10:32 |
| daker | mhall119_, czajkowski he said : "i know it's in there, but it's just a crap". What he is referring to? content, portal itself. it's all my work with kim0; it's 90% of my spare time during 1 year | 11:22 |
| dholbach | salut daker - comment ça va? | 11:23 |
| daker | salut dholbach, ça va très mal :/ | 11:24 |
| dholbach | daker, qu'est-ce qui ce passe? :-( | 11:24 |
| czajkowski | daker: I think honestly it's just out of context | 11:26 |
| daker | dholbach, listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=8sNzrFTDK4o#t=911s | 11:26 |
| czajkowski | daker: jcastro_ really isn't one to dismiss peoples work | 11:26 |
| czajkowski | daker: dontfroget he's just taken this over so may have some catching up on, maybe ye can talk about some ideas and input | 11:27 |
| dholbach | daker, best talk to jcastro_ about it - I'm convinced he didn't mean to say that you were doing a bad job - not at all | 11:28 |
| popey | daker: at teh time he's talking about search | 11:29 |
| popey | the fact that you cant find what you want | 11:29 |
| popey | "I know it's in there" - I know the content I want is in there | 11:29 |
| popey | " but it's crap" - crap that i can't find it | 11:29 |
| popey | he's not saying the content itself is crap, but that the engine doesn't find the stuff | 11:30 |
| popey | (I think) :D | 11:30 |
| daker | dholbach, start from 16:20 | 11:31 |
| dholbach | daker, I'm sure that while it sounded like things were really bad, it's more to say "this is something we can improve" | 11:31 |
| dholbach | daker, everybody in here appreciates the great work you are doing | 11:31 |
| daker | dholbach, except jcastro_ | 11:31 |
| dholbach | I'm sure that's not the case | 11:32 |
| czajkowski | daker: I don't think that's fair I think you and he should talk, but perhaps the session doesnt translate what he was trying to convey I can't speak for him | 11:32 |
| czajkowski | daker: I know I appreciate the work you've done on the loco.u.c and other sites. | 11:33 |
| pangolin | daker: I agree with czajkowski, you should speak with Jorge before going and condemning him for something you "think" he said. | 11:35 |
| pangolin | He is really not the type of person to go around and putting down other peoples work. | 11:35 |
| popey | daker: don't start at 16:20, you need the context of the minute or two before that, they're talking about search | 11:35 |
| dholbach | daker, I'm sure we can resolve this | 11:35 |
| daker | czajkowski, pangolin ok | 11:35 |
| pangolin | daker: je te promets que jorge n'est pas ce type de personne. | 11:36 |
| daker | btw where is kim0 ? | 11:39 |
| nigelb | daker: kim0 left Canonical a few weeks ago. | 11:43 |
| nigelb | jcastro is now the cloud person. | 11:43 |
| dholbach | kim0 is working in a startup in Cairo now | 11:44 |
| nigelb | dholbach: NICE! | 11:44 |
| daker | nigelb, i see | 11:45 |
| dholbach | I'm sad he's gone - I need to go and visit him in Cairo :) | 11:46 |
| mhall119_ | daker: after watching the video, I think it's just an honest misunderstanding | 13:01 |
| mhall119_ | I definitely second czajkowski, you should just talk to him | 13:01 |
| === mhall119_ is now known as mhall119 | ||
| dpm | dholbach, cjohnston, mhall119, I remember you had a similar bug in the LD to https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-portal/+bug/885293, which uses django as well. Do you remember how you solved it? | 13:20 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 885293 in ubuntudeveloperportal "Taiwan listed as "Taiwan, Province of China"" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:20 |
| czajkowski | ahh yes I remember that one | 13:23 |
| dholbach | dpm, https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+bug/614236 | 13:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 614236 in loco-team-portal "Wrong Country Name. (Taiwan)" [High,Fix released] | 13:35 |
| dholbach | dpm, if you use iso-codes, use 'common_name' instead of 'name' | 13:36 |
| dpm | cool, thanks dholbach! | 13:36 |
| dholbach | that'll fix a couple of other bugs as well | 13:37 |
| dholbach | right, lunch time | 13:39 |
| mhall119 | iso-codes :( | 13:57 |
| AlanBell | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan,_Province_of_China#Use_in_the_UN_and_other_instances | 14:01 |
| dholbach | dpm, können wir morgen mal telefonieren? mich würde interessieren, wie wir den unterschied zwischen app development und platform development etwas rausarbeiten können :) | 14:33 |
| dholbach | dpm, morgen vormittag vielleicht | 14:33 |
| dpm | dholbach, klar | 14:33 |
| dholbach | :-) | 14:34 |
| cjohnston | dholbach: says a whole bunch of words.. dpm replies with 4 letters.. lol | 14:34 |
| dpm | ;) | 14:40 |
| dpm | hey danilos, nice to see you around here :) | 14:44 |
| nigelb | hehe | 14:46 |
| nigelb | Only a rich white man from Africa would name an OS "Ubuntu" and a tool "Juju"...what's next a shell called "Booyahkah"? Lord he'p me! | 14:46 |
| nigelb | (seen on twitter) | 14:46 |
| snap-l | I'm still trying to figure out why the Orchestra metaphor wasn't good | 14:47 |
| snap-l | Ensemble, Chamber, songsheets. | 14:47 |
| snap-l | songbooks | 14:47 |
| snap-l | running the process could be "singing" | 14:48 |
| snap-l | so your servers could be singing off the same shongsheet | 14:48 |
| snap-l | that's a metaphor even accounting can understand. | 14:48 |
| danilos | dpm, hey-hey | 14:48 |
| nigelb | danilos: Several new chanels on the list these days? :) | 14:49 |
| danilos | nigelb, a few channels only for the purposes of breaking summit—I like to do my breaking in public :) | 14:50 |
| nigelb | danilos: haha | 14:50 |
| nigelb | I'm currently breaking it :D | 14:51 |
| cjohnston | if only he was kidding | 14:52 |
| popey | what is FARE-SEARCH_COM ? | 14:53 |
| popey | looks like a flight booking thing | 14:54 |
| czajkowski | a good site for that is skyscanner.net | 14:56 |
| cjohnston | jcastro_: ping | 15:00 |
| jcastro_ | off today, send me a mail pls | 15:01 |
| cjohnston | we had a trello class scheduled. do we need to reschedule? | 15:01 |
| popey | czajkowski: I wasnt looking for one, I was wondering who FARE-SEARCH_COM was and why it was here. looks spammy | 15:01 |
| czajkowski | ahh ok sorry | 15:03 |
| * jussi prods at dholbach | 15:04 | |
| cjohnston | dpm: ping | 15:10 |
| dpm | cjohnston, on a call, I'll be back later | 15:11 |
| cjohnston | ok | 15:11 |
| scott-work | good morning | 15:51 |
| dholbach | hey jono | 16:11 |
| jono | hey dholbach | 16:12 |
| czajkowski | afternoon jono hows life in california land | 16:15 |
| scott-work | this is an interesting interview i listened to: http://twit.tv/show/triangulation/30 | 16:17 |
| jono | hey czajkowski | 16:17 |
| jono | all good thanks! | 16:17 |
| scott-work | trinagulation is a good podcast where leo leport and tom merritt talk to very intersting people | 16:17 |
| scott-work | hi dholbach czajkowski jono , morning all :) | 16:18 |
| jono | hey scott-work | 16:18 |
| czajkowski | scott-work: hiya | 16:18 |
| scott-work | triangulation interview kevin minkick a while back, which if you know anything about the hacking history you should know this guy, bloody amazing story | 16:19 |
| cjohnston | jono: do you have some time free after 1p your time? | 16:20 |
| jono | cjohnston, *possibly*, I will be at a conference | 16:21 |
| jono | cjohnston, what do you need to discuss | 16:21 |
| cjohnston | ok | 16:21 |
| cjohnston | summit | 16:21 |
| cjohnston | jono: continue/finish the conversations we were having last week about summit development for this cycle | 16:27 |
| jono | cjohnston, if this is not urgent, can we talk tomorrow? | 16:27 |
| cjohnston | jono: im at work tomorrow so no guarentees.. but its not urgent | 16:28 |
| jono | cjohnston, cool, next week is fine too | 16:28 |
| jono | I am at home like normal | 16:28 |
| jono | thanks, cjohnston | 16:28 |
| cjohnston | ok | 16:28 |
| cjohnston | np | 16:28 |
| dpm | hey cjohnston, I'm free for a chat now | 16:35 |
| cjohnston | dpm: how translatable is "RSVP" | 16:37 |
| dpm | cjohnston, not easy to translate, but I think translators would manage to find an equivalent. The only thing to bear in mind is that the equivalent might well be longer than 4 letters, if space is a concern where this string wil be shown | 16:39 |
| dpm | e.g. in Catalan we'd translate it as "Esperem la vostra resposta" or something along these lines | 16:40 |
| cjohnston | Would "Register" be better? | 16:40 |
| dpm | yes, I think it would, it's easier to understand by translators, as they're probably more familiar with the term "Register" than "RSVP" | 16:41 |
| cjohnston | we have the ability to add a comment for translators.. what about doing "RSVP" and telling translators they can translate 'register' | 16:44 |
| nigelb | cjohnston: That's not fair. | 16:45 |
| cjohnston | to say that they 'can' translate register? | 16:45 |
| nigelb | To translate into a different word in other languages | 16:46 |
| cjohnston | either is valid | 16:46 |
| cjohnston | and they have the choice | 16:46 |
| nigelb | I would rather we just use Register. | 16:46 |
| cjohnston | ok.. its changed | 16:53 |
| * AlanBell wonders if they will translate Register to "répondez s'il vous plaît" in French | 16:57 | |
| nigelb | heh | 16:58 |
| jussi | nigelb: still around? | 17:06 |
| nigelb | jussi: yep | 17:07 |
| jussi | nigelb: is there a reason ubuntu pads dont have chat? | 17:07 |
| nigelb | jussi: yup, AlanBell ripped it out :) | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | yes, because we ripped it out | 17:07 |
| jussi | why? | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | because the UDS rooms use IRC | 17:07 |
| AlanBell | it would be confusing to have two places to chat | 17:07 |
| jussi | and the pads arent intended for non uds work? | 17:07 |
| nigelb | not yet. | 17:08 |
| cjohnston | no | 17:08 |
| jussi | (couldnt it just have been hidden? ) | 17:08 |
| AlanBell | it was just hidden | 17:08 |
| jussi | but I cant unhide it... right? | 17:08 |
| nigelb | jussi: AlanBell and I are working together this cycle for better etherpad experience, probably with etherpad-lite | 17:08 |
| nigelb | Hopefully, we can do somethign thsi time. | 17:08 |
| AlanBell | however, you can only have one theme on a pad server of that version because the dynamic theme switching on the URL is hopelessly broken | 17:08 |
| jussi | ok :) | 17:08 |
| jussi | anyways. I used it outside of uds. oops. I need a name/title for this survey. any good ones? http://pad.ubuntu.com/rtWQqrjItF | 17:09 |
| nigelb | jussi: just remember the data might get deleted this cycle. | 17:09 |
| AlanBell | I wanted to have a general purpose theme and in the iframe URL change to a less featured theme for embedding but that broke horribly | 17:09 |
| jussi | nigelb: its ok, as long as you dont delete it in the next 24 hours | 17:10 |
| nigelb | jussi: heh | 17:10 |
| jussi | (and Ill go back to using notes.kde.org) :D | 17:10 |
| jussi | but anyway. survey title please! | 17:11 |
| nigelb | jussi: pad.ubuntu-uk.org | 17:11 |
| jussi | nigelb: nah... those untrustable uk peoples :P :P | 17:11 |
| nigelb | jussi: You mean you don't trust Daviey? :D | 17:11 |
| jussi | nigelb: definately not! o.O | 17:12 |
| jussi | :P | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | jussi: feel free to use my limesurvey instance | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | people complain every time a non-free surveymonkey survey goes out | 17:12 |
| jussi | AlanBell: ooh. is it better than surveymonkey? | 17:12 |
| jussi | AlanBell: url please? | 17:12 |
| jussi | But I still need a title... :( | 17:12 |
| AlanBell | http://mumble.libertus.co.uk/limesurvey/ | 17:13 |
| popey | ge | 17:13 |
| popey | bah | 17:13 |
| jussi | AlanBell: how do I create one ? | 17:13 |
| popey | the question 'are you an ubuntu member' might need clarifying | 17:13 |
| AlanBell | jussi: sure, one sec, just remembering how to do that | 17:14 |
| jussi | popey: hrm. Im thinking to remove that, because its going to ubuntu-irc-members. | 17:14 |
| jussi | so everyone getting it should be an ubuntu member anyway | 17:16 |
| AlanBell | you should have an email now | 17:16 |
| jussi | which email addy did you use? | 17:17 |
| jussi | oh found it. | 17:18 |
| jussi | So, what do we think? Ubuntu IRC Survey? or someone got somethign more interesting for a name? | 17:19 |
| jussi | AlanBell: what do I put in end url? (what is that?) | 17:20 |
| AlanBell | jussi: I think it shoudl be on the email or http://mumble.libertus.co.uk/limesurvey/admin | 17:25 |
| jussi | AlanBell: and call me blind, but how do I add questions..... | 17:26 |
| AlanBell | you have to add a survey first | 17:26 |
| AlanBell | I need to sort out teatime, back in a bit | 17:27 |
| AlanBell | pleia2: has done a survey wtih it | 17:27 |
| jussi | AlanBell: Ive got the survey added, but I still cant see the question bit :( | 17:27 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I'll see you tomorrow - have a great rest of your day? | 17:28 |
| pleia2 | you first need to create a question group (I don't know what that means, I just created a question group for all the questions) | 17:28 |
| nigelb | g'nite dholbach | 17:28 |
| pleia2 | er, and put all the questions in it | 17:28 |
| jussi | later dholbach | 17:28 |
| dholbach | bye :) | 17:28 |
| jussi | pleia2: ahhh! | 17:28 |
| jussi | pleia2: one more quic one, When adding questions, there is a "code". do I need this?/what is it for? | 17:31 |
| pleia2 | I don't remember, I just clicked around until things worked | 17:31 |
| pleia2 | (and complained at AlanBell in irc) | 17:31 |
| jussi | hehe, ok thanks | 17:32 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I recall that ;) | 17:42 |
| AlanBell | I just changed the survey to the sherpa theme which I hacked the css to be a bit ubuntuish | 17:42 |
| AlanBell | I might make that a bit more pleasant | 17:43 |
| AlanBell | wow that did something odd with the channel names! | 17:43 |
| AlanBell | oh no, it was you copying from the pad with the URLs intact :) | 17:45 |
| AlanBell | I think LimeSurvey is probably very powerful and comprehensive, but not as easy to use as other tools that do less | 17:51 |
| cprofitt | hey AlanBell | 18:13 |
| AlanBell | hi | 18:14 |
| jussi | AlanBell: how do I now populate the email addresses? | 18:20 |
| AlanBell | click the token management icon (last one on the survey line, picture of people on it) | 18:21 |
| AlanBell | and create a token table | 18:21 |
| jussi | ahh ok | 18:22 |
| AlanBell | and you can import from CSV | 18:22 |
| jussi | AlanBell: Is there a nice simple way to convert a file with an address per line to csv? | 18:40 |
| AlanBell | um, got firstname, lastname, email ? | 18:45 |
| jussi | no. Lpname, email. | 18:46 |
| AlanBell | it wants firstname and lastname of some sort | 18:46 |
| jussi | bah :( | 18:47 |
| AlanBell | if you have lpname a simplish script can get you the rest | 18:47 |
| jussi | yeah script daniel gave me go lpname and email | 18:47 |
| AlanBell | ok, I think I have something similar | 18:47 |
| jussi | hrm are any of the canonical community team here? | 18:48 |
| AlanBell | launchpad has display_name and doesn't separate first and last names | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | meh, just import it as lpname, "Ubuntu", email | 18:50 |
| jussi | so how do I convert to csv? | 18:51 |
| AlanBell | put it in openoffice calc and save as csv | 18:52 |
| AlanBell | first line is the fieldnames | 18:52 |
| AlanBell | firstname lastname email | 18:52 |
| AlanBell | and then data below them | 18:52 |
| jussi | AlanBell: ok, I think Ive got it all done! Just got to check it again and send it out | 19:07 |
| jussi | Think Ill do it in the morning though. double check it hten. :) | 19:08 |
| AlanBell | jussi: so this is just going to members who have declared themselves as IRC users? | 19:10 |
| AlanBell | there must be more cloaked members than that I should think | 19:10 |
| jussi | AlanBell: ubuntu-irc-members team. | 19:11 |
| jussi | AlanBell: it was made with those who have come through the ircc for membership plus the cloaked users who didnt opt out when we made the group | 19:11 |
| AlanBell | ok | 19:12 |
| jussi | AlanBell: if you have time, please double check that theres nothing other untoward there. Ill be sending it in the morning | 19:12 |
| AlanBell | ok, seen where you can edit the email template? | 19:13 |
| jussi | yep | 19:14 |
| akgraner | jcastro_, I missed the Ubuntu Weeks session b/c I was conducting interviews do you have the link to the blueprint handy? | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | akgraner: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-irc-workshops | 20:52 |
| akgraner | pleia2, thanks! | 20:54 |
| akgraner | cool 3 days and 30 minutes sessions I am so there :-) | 20:54 |
| pleia2 | :D | 20:55 |
| cjohnston | doctormo-other: ping | 21:03 |
| technoviking | hey Jono | 21:43 |
| doctormo-sda1 | Hey technoviking | 21:43 |
| technoviking | doctormo-sda1: hola | 21:44 |
| jono | hey technoviking | 21:44 |
| AlanBell | o/ jono | 21:46 |
| AlanBell | in london at all over December jono? | 21:47 |
| jono | hey AlanBell | 21:47 |
| jono | hows things? | 21:47 |
| AlanBell | sorting out christmas LoCo party | 21:47 |
| doctormo-sda1 | AlanBell: I will be. | 21:47 |
| AlanBell | at http://www.danslenoir.com | 21:47 |
| AlanBell | ooh doctormo-sda1 when? | 21:47 |
| akgraner | hey jono when you get a chance can you look at the screenshot I sent you about Ustream - I am at a loss - was hoping you might have a suggestion... | 21:47 |
| doctormo-sda1 | AlanBell: Assuming everything goes well with little Violet's passport, around Dec 12th perhaps. | 21:48 |
| akgraner | no hurry mind you - just wanted to mention it to ya | 21:48 |
| jono | akgraner, just replied | 21:48 |
| doctormo-sda1 | It's a bit in the air atm, but I'll certainly be there. | 21:48 |
| jono | no idea what is wrong | 21:48 |
| akgraner | k | 21:48 |
| akgraner | thanks | 21:48 |
| alourie | hello | 22:07 |
| technoviking | alourie: hellp | 22:08 |
| technoviking | alourie: hello | 22:08 |
| alourie | technoviking: hey... hellping could be my speciality :-) | 22:09 |
| technoviking | :) | 22:09 |
| AlanBell | doctormo-other: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/ | 22:21 |
| alourie | ok, it is now official 11/11/11 here. I'm going to sleep. | 22:49 |
| bkerensa | jono: I did check into the video streaming thing... Kaltura is Open Source Video Streaming Platform and has modules you can put in for chat... Not sure if you have a server but it might be a good ustream alternative if ads become a issue :D | 22:51 |
| bkerensa | Bandwidth would be super intense | 22:51 |
| bkerensa | :P | 22:51 |
| AlanBell | jono isn't here | 22:51 |
| bkerensa | oh | 22:51 |
| * bkerensa facepalms | 22:51 | |
| topyli | bkerensa: interesting | 23:26 |
| bkerensa | topyli: ? The kaltura? | 23:26 |
| topyli | bkerensa: yes | 23:27 |
| topyli | free streaming stuff isn't exactly common | 23:27 |
| bkerensa | topyli:Oh its not free.... You have to have a server and install Kaltura Community Edition and add modules | 23:27 |
| bkerensa | but it would work just like UStream | 23:27 |
| bkerensa | only without ads | 23:27 |
| topyli | free software anyway :) | 23:27 |
| bkerensa | and open source | 23:27 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 23:27 |
| bkerensa | :D | 23:27 |
| * bkerensa knows their CTO | 23:28 | |
| bkerensa | :P | 23:28 |
| * bkerensa was thinking about asking him about the platform some | 23:28 | |
| topyli | servers are something you have to anyway, preferably with other people's money | 23:28 |
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