| jsalisbury | bjf, I'm pinging bdmurray and the landscape team now. | 00:04 |
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| jsalisbury | bjf, s/landscape/launchpad/ :-) | 00:05 |
| bdmurray | about what? | 00:05 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, do you know whether the lp expiration bot is running? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/399911 looks like it should have expired a while ago. | 00:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 399911 in linux "samsung x360 fn-keys work incorrectly" [Medium,Incomplete] | 00:06 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, from my understanding launcpad itself expires bugs, versus manual bots. | 00:06 |
| jsalisbury | bdmuarry, s/manual bots/bots we create/ | 00:06 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: yes the launchpad janitor expires bug reports | 00:06 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: I'd expect to see "This bug can expire in xyz days" on the page | 00:07 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: for example in bug 846652 you can see this | 00:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 846652 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Screen shifted right and incorrect refresh rate when switching VTs and unsuspending" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846652 | 00:08 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, could there be a bug in the expiration janitor? Does it only trigger off of an incomplete status | 00:08 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: it must be incomplete and a not match a few other criteria | 00:08 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, yeah, maybe the number of affected people has something to do with it? | 00:09 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: that criteria is listed at https://help.launchpad.net/BugExpiry | 00:09 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: no its not that I'm thinking / looking at it | 00:09 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, thanks for the link, I'll take a look at that page. | 00:09 |
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| bdmurray | jsalisbury: I don't see anything my only thought is it might be because date_incomplete is so old | 00:10 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, you think because it was set to incomplete back on 2009-12-10, and maybe the expiration logic was different then? | 00:12 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: no that maybe the janitor only looks at date_incomplete within the past 90 days ... I'm grasping at straws though | 00:14 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, I wonder what would happened if I marked the bug as confirmed then incomplete again? | 00:15 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: there is a bug.isExpirable method that returns False | 00:15 |
| bdmurray | well you'd have to wait 90 days for the actual expiration to happen | 00:15 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, I also noticed the background for Incomplete in bug 399911 is a brighter yellow compared to incomplete say in bug 846652, not sure if that actually means anything | 00:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 399911 in linux "samsung x360 fn-keys work incorrectly" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399911 | 00:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 846652 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Screen shifted right and incorrect refresh rate when switching VTs and unsuspending" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/846652 | 00:16 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: don't think so | 00:17 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, do you have a script, or is that one in arsenal that you used to pull the bug.isExpirable method? | 00:18 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, I guess I could just write a quick one. | 00:18 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: I just used ipython to check on that bug | 00:19 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, ahh, ok. I wonder if it has anything to do with being assigned to someone, then reassigned to nobody. | 00:20 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, bjf, I'll dig further and maybe see if someone on the launchpad team knows. | 00:21 |
| bdmurray | oh, I've an idea now | 00:21 |
| jsalisbury | :-) | 00:21 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: I'm pretty sure its because the status for 846652 is "Incomplete w/o response" and the status for 399911 is just "Incomplete" | 00:23 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: and the API only tells you that they are Incomplete | 00:24 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, I'm not sure I understand the "Incomplete w/o response", Are comments in the bug not responses? | 00:25 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, or is it comments added after the bug was marked Incomplete? | 00:25 |
| bdmurray | the latter | 00:26 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, ahh, ok. | 00:26 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, and once a bug has a response after marked incomplete, it looks like it can't be forced to expire. For bug 399911, I marked it confirmed, then incomplete again, and the message "This bug report will be marked for expiration in N" did not show up. | 00:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 399911 in linux "samsung x360 fn-keys work incorrectly" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399911 | 00:28 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, oh wait, I also see that that bug has a duplicate! | 00:29 |
| jsalisbury | bdmurray, but the Expiry page says that the bug must be a duplicate itself not to expire :-/ | 00:30 |
| bdmurray | jsalisbury: having a duplicate isn't a factor | 00:30 |
| jsalisbury | right | 00:30 |
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| martijn | Quick question, forgive the newbie on this, I'm trying to get the ubuntu kernel to diagnose a USB driver issue I'm having, but I run into "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" when git clone'ing from kernel.ubuntu.com - is this something really obvious I should know about? | 01:17 |
| martijn | (cmd was: git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git lixsrc ) | 01:18 |
| martijn | (now trying git clone http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git-repos/ubuntu/ubuntu-oneiric.git -- will post here when/if that fails, not aware of any firewall issues between me and the inet) | 01:18 |
| martijn | (USB issue in question is isochronous URB reception seems to not work from userland, my suspicion is a problem in drivers/usb/core/devio.c line 1347 processcompl() and I'd like to add some printk's there to diagnose.. but that requires the kernel.) | 01:27 |
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| bjf | martijn: there is something wrong with kernel.ubuntu.com right now | 01:43 |
| martijn | bjf: Thanks for the response! does the http request have any hope of succeeding or should I retry tomorrow? | 01:44 |
| bjf | martijn: i think there is no hope right now | 01:45 |
| martijn | Assuming that statement is limited to kernel.ubuntu.com, I'll try again tomorrow - thanks for the info & good luck to who is working on fixing it. | 01:46 |
| martijn | (http also failed as expected, tomorrow!) | 01:59 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | hey guys. i need some help with a kernel project im doing. Im having the hardest time and ive spent well over 40 hours trying to figure this crap out. i feel like I am missing just a small piece of the puzzel.... can someone help me? | 02:07 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | maybe someone can help me. i downloaded ubuntu kernel from source. did a make menuconfig and tweaked it how i liked. then did a make... | 02:17 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | im pretty sure that compiled the kernel. now im just trying to get it to an install CD so i can install it on my test machine. can anyone help me? | 02:17 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | hey guys, i still cant figure out how to "use" a kernel. i compiled one and cant figure out how to get it working. i tried using UCK and that was a miserable failure. has anyone compliled their own kernel? | 03:15 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | anyone? | 03:29 |
| semitones | hello, valorie suggested I come here from #kubuntu to ask about my bug | 06:09 |
| semitones | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/888415 | 06:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 888415 in pulseaudio "Speakers do not mute when headphone jack is in use. Multimedia keys unmute speakers." [Undecided,New] | 06:09 |
| semitones | she said it ended up being a kernel problem for her | 06:09 |
| semitones | let me know if that sounds familiar -- I can idle here for a while :) | 06:12 |
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| diwic | bjf, if you're awake - I'm trying out your kernel scripts (the alsa cod), but when try to "make source", it fails with "file not found: source/debian/control". What is the correct way to fix this problem? I notice that there is no debian/control, but debian/control.stub.in, debian/control-scripts, and control.d/ | 10:44 |
| diwic | all exists in the debian directory | 10:44 |
| diwic | aha, "fakeroot debian/rules debian/control" did the trick | 10:48 |
| apw | diwic, likely you really wanted fakeroot debian/rules clean | 11:48 |
| apw | that creates all the transient debian stuff | 11:48 |
| diwic | apw, aha, thanks | 11:48 |
| apw | else you won't have a changelog later in the process | 11:48 |
| apw | semitones, yep that is likely a kernel issue | 11:49 |
| apw | diwic, do we have a good debugging guide for jack problems | 11:49 |
| diwic | apw, eh | 11:50 |
| diwic | apw, could you specify "jack problems" a little | 11:50 |
| apw | diwic, classic is "i insert headphones and speakers don't turn off" | 11:51 |
| apw | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/888415 | 11:51 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 888415 in pulseaudio "Speakers do not mute when headphone jack is in use. Multimedia keys unmute speakers." [Undecided,New] | 11:51 |
| apw | is one we got asked about in scrollback last night | 11:51 |
| diwic | apw, only one of 84 open bugs for pulseaudio :-/ | 11:51 |
| apw | heh yeah, i assume its more likely a kernel issue in this case right ? | 11:52 |
| apw | semitones, is this machine reallly running maverick ? | 11:52 |
| diwic | apw, probably, but determing that is non-trivial | 11:52 |
| apw | diwic, so pulse also takes a hand in jack handling ? | 11:53 |
| diwic | apw, hmm, since oneiric it does, but if this is maverick, it's definitely kernel | 11:53 |
| apw | oh ... thats news, i am unsure i want to know how pulse is involved ... yeeks | 11:54 |
| apw | diwic, i'll shove it over to kernel anyhow, then it can be 1/6k bugs and even more lost | 11:54 |
| diwic | telling user to try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS | 11:54 |
| * apw tells them to test an oneiric liveCD | 11:56 | |
| diwic | heh | 11:57 |
| diwic | either should be just fine. | 11:57 |
| apw | diwic, thanks | 11:57 |
| apw | man maverick seems like so long ago, and yet its only a year | 11:58 |
| apw | diwic, i note that all of those dkms packages failed to build on i386 | 12:01 |
| diwic | apw, fixed today, but yeah, maybe I should trigger a new build | 12:02 |
| diwic | apw, is this something to worry about: "package linux-alsa-driver-modules-oneiric-generic in control file but not in files list" | 12:02 |
| apw | its poor on our behalf but likely not an issue that stops you, thats an lbm package | 12:03 |
| apw | oh are you trying to start up auto builds of alsa for oneiric ? | 12:03 |
| apw | i suspect lbm doesn't have an alsa backport in it yet which would lead to that error | 12:04 |
| apw | it'd all be commented out, still in there but off | 12:04 |
| diwic | apw, yeah, I started off with bjf's tree for cod-natty and trying to make something launchpad based for oneiric | 12:08 |
| diwic | apw, as bjf's stuff is non-existent for oneiric and broken for the older | 12:08 |
| apw | diwic, nice, so yeah it may well be we have no alsa in lbm if that is what you are using | 12:18 |
| apw | though how would that differ from your dkms package ? | 12:18 |
| apw | if you used that against the crack of the day alsa tree ? | 12:18 |
| diwic | they use the same source, the dkms package is for snd-hda-* modules only and is dkms based | 12:19 |
| diwic | if you need all modules (i e testing something different than HDA Intel cards you'll need the full sound tree | 12:19 |
| apw | ahh yes, there is a lot more poo in there | 12:19 |
| brendand | smb - sorry to bother you, but if i were to use 'skipabi' where would i put it? | 13:13 |
| smb | brendand, depends a bit on what command you use to run the build I believe | 13:14 |
| smb | I use it rarely so it is easy to forget. Would skipabi=true dpkg-buildpackage -b ... work? | 13:15 |
| brendand | the instructions i am using use debian/rules | 13:15 |
| * smb thinks there both "skipabi=true debian/rules ..." and "debian/rules skipabi=true ..." may work | 13:16 | |
| smb | brendand, Seems right. You can use debian/rules printenv to check what settings get used | 13:19 |
| brendand | smb - great, trying that now | 13:25 |
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| ogasawara | apw, tgardner: I'm trying to remember bits from UDS, wasn't there discussion about building in SATA_AHCI? | 14:45 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, yep, in fact that is what I set out to do, but got confused with xhci instated. | 14:46 |
| apw | ogasawara, there was confusingly conversations about XHCI for usb3 and ahci as its the common sata. they got conflated at times | 14:46 |
| tgardner | instead* | 14:46 |
| apw | ogasawara, overall though i think we should move that one boot essential | 14:46 |
| apw | tgardner, indeed :) | 14:46 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, i did build in xhci in precise though. we'll need to make sure it doesn't break suspend | 14:47 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: ack | 14:47 |
| * apw is just doing some of those annotations as it happens | 14:47 | |
| ogasawara | apw: I'll add it as a work item so we don't forget | 14:47 |
| apw | ogasawara, cool thanks | 14:47 |
| * tgardner pours gas into ubuntu-devel | 15:14 | |
| Kiall | Hiya - I'm trying to figure out the cause of a kernel panic, anyone about to understand the logs? ;) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1400487/panic/IMG_20111026_040053.jpg | 15:15 |
| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:17 | |
| apw | Kiall, from the log that looks like a problem in a combination use of bridging and netfilter | 15:17 |
| apw | Kiall, what release is this on as the kernel version is off the top on that dump | 15:17 |
| apw | smb, didn't we have a problem in a stable update recently in this area ? | 15:18 |
| apw | tgardner, ^ | 15:18 |
| Kiall | apw: Mine is running 3.0.0-13-server on oneiric | 15:18 |
| smb | apw, Nothing I know of... | 15:18 |
| tgardner | Kiall, you have bridging enabled with iptables rules ? | 15:19 |
| Kiall | tgardner: yes | 15:20 |
| tgardner | apw, IIRC it was netfilter and lxc that had issues | 15:20 |
| Kiall | Its a server running OpenStack, So a combination of VLAN's, NF, Bridging and KVM (ie .. everything) | 15:20 |
| tgardner | Kiall, a VPN with tun/tap ? | 15:21 |
| Kiall | No - no VPN involved | 15:21 |
| Kiall | I think the tap is KVM | 15:21 |
| apw | its the bridge for kvm then in this case | 15:21 |
| tgardner | Kiall, right. I haven't setup KVM in awhile | 15:21 |
| tgardner | Kiall, what net filters are you using ? | 15:22 |
| apw | Kiall, was this the host or the VM that dumped | 15:23 |
| Kiall | apw: the host | 15:23 |
| tgardner | apw, only yhte host can see the bridge | 15:23 |
| apw | tgardner, point | 15:23 |
| Kiall | tgardner: DNAT, SNAT, and standard accept/deny rules.. | 15:24 |
| tgardner | Kiall, nothing particularly dangerous there | 15:24 |
| apw | so this is a NAT bridge not a native one (that how virtmanager talks about it) | 15:24 |
| apw | so ... he is running a v3.0.6 base, so it'd be worth a scan of everything in stable after | 15:25 |
| tgardner | Kiall, is this a recent change in behavior ? and how often does it happen ? | 15:25 |
| Kiall | I've seen it twice, and I've just found another person who's its just happened to.. | 15:26 |
| Kiall | Obviously, Oneiric installs so they haven’t had very long lives yet | 15:26 |
| apw | cirtianly worth getting a bug filed with that on it, we are bound to see it plenty as well | 15:26 |
| Kiall | yea, will do | 15:29 |
| apw | if you can reproduce it i'd like to know if its there in -12, though i suspect it is | 15:31 |
| * smb wonders wehter the 200+ patches pending on 3.0.y will help or do worse... | 15:32 | |
| Kiall | Standard traffic seems to trigger it, but I haven't figured out what traffic in particular :( | 15:32 |
| apw | smb, yeah | 15:33 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, did 3.1 compat-wireless for Lucid stay on your list ? | 15:56 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: it did, was planning to get to it today or tomorrow. | 15:57 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, np, thanks | 15:57 |
| smb | Wasn't tomorrow a holiday over there? | 15:57 |
| apw | ogasawara, also do we have an alsa backport in oneiric yet ? | 15:57 |
| ogasawara | smb: it is, but I'm planning to swap it for another day | 15:58 |
| tgardner | smb, yep | 15:58 |
| smb | ah ok | 15:58 |
| ogasawara | apw: we don't | 15:59 |
| apw | i assume we should now/soon, i wonder if thats on -stable's radar | 15:59 |
| ogasawara | apw: do we have a strong need for an updated alsa in oneiric? | 16:01 |
| apw | a good question indeed | 16:01 |
| bjf | apw, did we have a backported alsa for maverick or natty ? | 16:05 |
| tgardner | I'm thinking we should only bother with backports to the current release and Lucid. | 16:06 |
| tgardner | backports being compat-wireless and possible alsa | 16:06 |
| tgardner | possibly* | 16:06 |
| apw | so current == oneiric right now ? | 16:07 |
| apw | bjf, another good question | 16:07 |
| bjf | tgardner: my question was more along the lines of, "do we regularly backport alsa to N-1?" | 16:07 |
| tgardner | on the other hand, with the LTS kernels, does it make sense to backport anything to Lucid ? | 16:07 |
| * apw was thinking the same as tgardner on lucid | 16:07 | |
| tgardner | apw, thats one more bit of maintenance that we could shed | 16:10 |
| apw | if we are doiing the work to support backports then they should be sufficient in theory | 16:11 |
| apw | i guess the only question is whether we get alsa/wireless backports sooner than the 'next' kernel | 16:11 |
| apw | as they are synced to upstream releases and not ours | 16:12 |
| tgardner | apw, I'm sure I care about a 3 month gap | 16:12 |
| tgardner | I'm *not* sure | 16:12 |
| * apw has assumed sarcasm | 16:12 | |
| * ppisati bails for a bit | 16:13 | |
| * smb would be using alsa backports at least on his media pc... I could probably change to an LTS backports kernel. But assumes much whining about any support that gets dropped | 16:13 | |
| tgardner | apw, ogasawara: whats the story on powerpc flavours ? can we drop support for the old Apple G4 ? | 16:20 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: I think we were meant to chat with lifeless and jk about it | 16:21 |
| apw | tgardner, is that the 32bit non-smp job? didn't jk do some work to confirm we didn't really need that | 16:21 |
| apw | ogasawara, get a WI made perhaps then we won't forget | 16:21 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: bah, not lifeless, luke | 16:21 |
| tgardner | can you guys run that ground ? | 16:22 |
| apw | ogasawara, i am thinking we want to resurect our power blueprint so that cking's work is visible | 16:22 |
| tgardner | that to ground * | 16:22 |
| apw | ogasawara, also i suspect we are going to have some work on boot speed which i suspect i'll want to make a new bleuprint to track; see any problems with me doing that | 16:22 |
| ogasawara | apw: sounds fine | 16:23 |
| cking | apw, that sounds like a good idea - needs to be trackable | 16:23 |
| apw | cking, have you done your WIs for your stuff yet ? | 16:23 |
| ogasawara | cking: let me see if I can find that blueprint | 16:23 |
| apw | ogasawara, it was power-management or something | 16:23 |
| cking | apw, nope, I'm draining my HWE worklist this week | 16:23 |
| apw | cking, ok | 16:23 |
| cking | all 37 mins left of it | 16:23 |
| apw | cking, :) | 16:24 |
| cking | not that I'm counting ;-) | 16:24 |
| apw | rm HWE-TODO | 16:24 |
| cking | oh yeah | 16:24 |
| apw | sleep 2160; rm HWE-TODO | 16:24 |
| ogasawara | cking: I couldn't find the existing one so I just made you a new blueprint. I'll let you fill it in accordingly. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-p-kernel-power-management | 16:40 |
| cnd | bjf, do we still pull everything from upstream stable releases? | 16:49 |
| cnd | I've got a patch that is working its way through stable for macbook trackpads | 16:49 |
| tgardner | cnd, yes | 16:50 |
| bjf | cnd, yes | 16:50 |
| cnd | ok, thanks | 16:50 |
| bjf | cnd, which release you hoping it gets into ? | 16:50 |
| cking | ogasawara, thanks | 16:50 |
| cnd | bjf, it's in the review for the next one | 16:50 |
| cnd | 3.0.9 I think? | 16:50 |
| bjf | cnd, ok, oneiric then, yes we will pick that up | 16:50 |
| cnd | ok | 16:51 |
| bullgard4 | http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_26: "2.6.26 adds support for ... BDI statistics and parameters exposure in /sys/class/bdi, ... Linux 2.6.24 merged per-device dirty thresholds: The limits that the kernel put to the amount of memory that a process can "dirty" changed from being global to be per-device. 2.6.26 exposes a interface in /sys/class/bdi that allow to set several parameters.... | 17:06 |
| bullgard4 | ...There's another set of read-only parameters that are exposet in debugfs (debug/bdi/<bdi>/stats) " What does »BDI« stand for? | 17:06 |
| tgardner | bullgard4, block device interface ? | 17:14 |
| cnd | bullgard4, probably a debugger used for doing low level hardware bringup | 17:14 |
| cnd | wait, nm, that doesn't make sense given the rest of the comment | 17:14 |
| cnd | unless they are unrelated | 17:14 |
| smb | Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs.class-bdi: "Provide a place in sysfs for the backing_dev_info object." | 17:27 |
| bullgard4 | tgardner, cnd, smb: Thank you very much for your help. -- I will continue snooping. | 17:31 |
| broder | how frozen is the upstream kernel during the rc period? i have a patch i'd like to see get in (http://paste.ubuntu.com/734424/, based on https://lkml.org/lkml/2010/3/10/188), but i've never interacted with the lkml before and don't really know what i'm doing | 17:44 |
| broder | err, http://paste.ubuntu.com/734429/ would be the one actually rebased onto master, but whatever | 17:46 |
| tgardner | broder, you'll likely need to run it past the list and the maintainer. | 17:55 |
| tgardner | rtg@lochsa:~/proj/linux/linux-2.6$ scripts/get_maintainer.pl -f drivers/leds/led-class.c | 17:55 |
| tgardner | Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net> (maintainer:LED SUBSYSTEM) | 17:55 |
| tgardner | linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (open list) | 17:55 |
| broder | so just send it off and hope for the best? :) | 17:56 |
| tgardner | broder, you should check with Samuel Thibault that it hasn't already been reviewed | 17:56 |
| broder | tgardner: ok, thanks for the pointers | 17:57 |
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| * tgardner -> lunch | 18:52 | |
| tgardner | apw, ogasawara: can you remember any reason why CONFIG_MEMSTICK_R592 is not enabled in either Oneiric or Precise ? | 19:23 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: no idea | 19:23 |
| apw | tgardner, nothing jumps out at me, its not in any of our groups we check regularly | 19:24 |
| tgardner | seems like it should have popped up in our config review | 19:24 |
| apw | it may be one we have on our list for review | 19:24 |
| tgardner | apw, well, we clearly missed it in oneiric | 19:24 |
| tgardner | bug #238208 | 19:25 |
| apw | we didn't have the same tooling in oneiric, but ogasawara lets add a wi to investifate it | 19:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 238208 in linux "Need MemoryStick driver Ricoh R5C592 (part of R5C832/822chipset)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238208 | 19:25 |
| ogasawara | apw: ack | 19:25 |
| tgardner | apw, I'm just gonna write a patch to enable it. | 19:25 |
| GrueMaster | bjf: Erm, arm Lucid is EOL. No need for Bug 888698 . | 19:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 888698 in linux-fsl-imx51 "linux-fsl-imx51: <version to be filled> -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/888698 | 19:29 |
| apw | || CONFIG_MEMSTICK_R592 || n || n || n || - || - || n || n || n || n || n || n || '''EXPERIMENTAL''' || | 19:29 |
| apw | GrueMaster, until the buildd's are transitioned off on to panda we are stuck with supporting them | 19:29 |
| GrueMaster | grmbl. | 19:29 |
| apw | GrueMaster, they have _told_ me 'weeks', we shall see | 19:30 |
| tgardner | apw, isn't that inconsistent with policy ? | 19:30 |
| apw | tgardner, its experimental and not special cased | 19:30 |
| apw | if the option is dependent on EXPERIMENTAL then our normal policy is to not enable it, | 19:31 |
| tgardner | apw, oh, I thought we _were_ turning on experimental options if they were modules. | 19:31 |
| tgardner | we sure seem to have turned on a bunch so far | 19:31 |
| apw | we have tended to if they are very definatly only going to pop up with hardware | 19:31 |
| tgardner | well, this one counts then | 19:32 |
| apw | yep, and it sounds like MEMSTICK_* is a class of exceptions | 19:32 |
| apw | tgardner, its a bit frightening if that option has been available since jaunty and still EXP | 19:33 |
| tgardner | if it breaks, I'll let 'em keep both pieces | 19:34 |
| apw | yep | 19:35 |
| apw | i'm going through the annotations so i'll look see if there are any more patterns | 19:35 |
| apw | ogasawara, as we'll nearly be on final kernel by rally, do we want to have a re-config review, as we already have new problems introduced by -rc2. i'll be adding WIs for them shortly | 19:36 |
| apw | (at rally) | 19:36 |
| ogasawara | apw: sounds like a good idea | 19:36 |
| apw | ogasawara, added to the agenda | 19:37 |
| ogasawara | apw: thanks | 19:37 |
| bjf | apw, have we reached out to upstream stable to see if they have any plans to support 3.2 ? | 19:38 |
| bjf | apw, also, have you heard anything about bugzilla.kernel.org coming back ? | 19:38 |
| apw | bjf, the only thing i've heard in that space is what jjohansen said about 'one per year' and i think that means we miss | 19:39 |
| apw | bjf, not heard a thing on bugzilla, though as people are only just getting back on at all i am not supprised | 19:40 |
| jjohansen | apw: I don't know that is really 1 per year, but that is the talk I heard | 19:40 |
| * jjohansen can't remember where he heard it though | 19:41 | |
| * herton -> eod | 19:44 | |
| apw | jjohansen, yeah, i was likely tipsy during that conv. | 20:04 |
| tgardner | apw, do you have some kvm runes that work on precise ? testdrive seems to have stopped working for me | 20:08 |
| kirkland | tgardner: hmm, what's wrong with testdrive? | 20:08 |
| tgardner | kirkland, can't find a display, -vga cirrus | 20:09 |
| kirkland | tgardner: hrmf? how odd | 20:09 |
| kirkland | tgardner: you can edit that, fwiw | 20:09 |
| kirkland | tgardner: sudo vi /etc/testdriverc | 20:09 |
| tgardner | Running the Virtual Machine... | 20:10 |
| tgardner | kvm -m 1024 -smp 2 -cdrom /home/rtg/precise-server-i386-daily.iso -drive file=/home/rtg/.cache/testdrive/img/testdrive-disk-iZzs3g.img,if=virtio,cache=writeback,index=0,boot=on -usb -usbdevice tablet -net nic,model=virtio -net user -soundhw es1370 -vga cirrus | 20:10 |
| tgardner | Could not initialize SDL(No available video device) - exiting | 20:10 |
| kirkland | tgardner: find the line that says "-vga cirrus" | 20:10 |
| kirkland | tgardner: and change it | 20:10 |
| kirkland | hallyn: ^ | 20:10 |
| tgardner | to what? | 20:10 |
| kirkland | hallyn: what would be wrong with tgardner's kvm invocation? | 20:10 |
| kirkland | tgardner: you can try -vga std|vmware|cirrus | 20:10 |
| tgardner | I also had to figure out the pxe-virtio.bin problem | 20:10 |
| kirkland | tgardner: honestly, though, we need to figure out why cirrus isn't working | 20:10 |
| kirkland | tgardner: sudo apt-get install kvm-pxe ? | 20:11 |
| hallyn | kirkland, dunno "kvm -cdrom /iso/precise-mini-amd64.iso -boot d -vga cirrus" at least works for me | 20:12 |
| hallyn | i do have ipxe installed of course | 20:12 |
| tgardner | kirkland, lemme check if that fixes kvm-pxe | 20:12 |
| tgardner | kirkland, kvm-pxe is already the newest version. the issue is that qemu wants pxe-virtio.rom, not pxe-virtio.bin | 20:13 |
| kirkland | hallyn: mind troubleshooting that for tgardner ? | 20:13 |
| tgardner | kirkland, so hallyn's command works. | 20:15 |
| tgardner | even over 'ssh -X'. I also tried testdrive on the physical console. | 20:15 |
| hallyn | tgardner, can you remove 'boot=on' from your drive spec for hard drive in your command? | 20:16 |
| tgardner | hallyn, on the war kvm command? or testdrive ? | 20:17 |
| tgardner | raw* | 20:17 |
| hallyn | kvm command | 20:17 |
| hallyn | kvm -m 1024 -smp 2 -cdrom /home/rtg/precise-server-i386-daily.iso -drive file=/home/rtg/.cache/testdrive/img/testdrive-disk-iZzs3g.img,if=virtio,cache=writeback,index=0, -usb -usbdevice tablet -net nic,model=virtio -net user -soundhw es1370 -vga cirrus | 20:17 |
| hallyn | uh, (sigh) | 20:17 |
| hallyn | kvm -m 1024 -smp 2 -cdrom /home/rtg/precise-server-i386-daily.iso -drive file=/home/rtg/.cache/testdrive/img/testdrive-disk-iZzs3g.img,if=virtio,cache=writeback,index=0 -usb -usbdevice tablet -net nic,model=virtio -net user -soundhw es1370 -vga cirrus | 20:18 |
| hallyn | that | 20:18 |
| hallyn | tgardner, is this on an oneiric host? | 20:18 |
| tgardner | hallyn, precise host | 20:18 |
| hallyn | ok, i'm on oneiric host but with precise's kvm... | 20:18 |
| tgardner | so I reran 'sudo testdrive -u file://`pwd`/precise-server-i386-daily.iso' to populate the COW image and now its working. | 20:19 |
| tgardner | etf ? | 20:19 |
| tgardner | wtf? | 20:19 |
| hallyn | tgardner, i'll blame it on the kernel :) | 20:20 |
| tgardner | lemme go rerun this on the console. | 20:20 |
| hallyn | oh, i hadn't seen some of the history | 20:21 |
| hallyn | 'could not initialize SDL" - sounds like it may be an sdl lib problem then | 20:21 |
| hallyn | or weird perms | 20:22 |
| tgardner | hallyn, the console hates me, but I can run it over an 'ssh -X' session. | 20:23 |
| hallyn | i can try to reproduce on my precise laptop. you just ran 'testdrive' and chose precise-i386? | 20:23 |
| tgardner | it paints a little slow, but its a server install so I don't really care | 20:23 |
| tgardner | hallyn, yes | 20:24 |
| tgardner | clean install from today | 20:24 |
| hallyn | ok, thanks. | 20:24 |
| tgardner | plus archive updates | 20:24 |
| hallyn | I really do wish I could live my live without having to itneract with SDL | 20:24 |
| kirkland | sdl blows | 20:24 |
| kirkland | tgardner: thanks for the info; when/if you ever find testdrive broken, poke hallyn and roaksoax | 20:25 |
| kirkland | tgardner: hallyn maintains the kvm pieces, roaksoax testdrive itself | 20:25 |
| tgardner | can do | 20:25 |
| kirkland | tgardner: it's *supposed* to be working at all times; if it ain't, we wanna get it fixed ;-) | 20:25 |
| tgardner | kirkland, I was actually trying it out in order to verify that generic-pae still worked. next I'll try the same combo on a 64 bit host | 20:26 |
| kirkland | k | 20:26 |
| tgardner | still worked in kvm-qemu taht is | 20:26 |
| hallyn | tgardner, oh, right, i saw that thread, was curious myself | 20:27 |
| matthias_ | Hi there. I'd like to report a kernel problem, however the command "ubuntu-bug -p linux" does not do anything :) | 20:55 |
| matthias_ | Should I manually file a report or is there another recommended way? | 20:57 |
| tgardner | matthias_, thats a good start. would the nature of your kernel bug cause ubuntu-bug to stop working? | 20:57 |
| matthias_ | No, I do not think so. | 20:58 |
| matthias_ | My system is running. The problem is that I frequently see a bunch of annoying messages in my syslog. I wonder whether it is a hardware problem or a kernel problem. | 20:58 |
| tgardner | matthias_, seems like it ought to work. what release ? oneiric ? | 20:59 |
| matthias_ | 11.10, fresh install | 20:59 |
| tgardner | matthias_, other folks have been using it. | 21:00 |
| matthias_ | The problem is: I bought a new Laptop (Thinkpad T520) and received it today. Ubuntu runs, however I see the following errors: | 21:00 |
| matthias_ | kernel: [ 781.456768] ata4: irq_stat 0x00000040, connection status changed | 21:00 |
| matthias_ | kernel: [ 781.456775] ata4: SError: { CommWake DevExch } | 21:00 |
| matthias_ | kernel: [ 781.456787] ata4: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps | 21:01 |
| matthias_ | kernel: [ 781.456794] ata4: hard resetting link | 21:01 |
| matthias_ | kernel: [ 782.177920] ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 310) | 21:01 |
| matthias_ | kernel: [ 782.193880] ata4: EH complete | 21:01 |
| tgardner | matthias_, one time, or repeating ? | 21:02 |
| matthias_ | repeating frequently | 21:02 |
| matthias_ | say every 20 seconds | 21:02 |
| matthias_ | btw, thanks for your help! | 21:02 |
| tgardner | you could try the 3.1 kernel: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.1.0-2-generic_3.1.0-2.3_amd64.deb | 21:03 |
| matthias_ | So if it was a hardware problem I'd return the laptop to the dealer. But somehow I guess that it is a kernel problem (since the system is running) | 21:03 |
| tgardner | it might be power management messing with your link. | 21:04 |
| matthias_ | tgardner, software or hardware related? | 21:05 |
| tgardner | software | 21:05 |
| matthias_ | Would you think it is worth to report a bug? | 21:06 |
| tgardner | matthias_, yep | 21:06 |
| matthias_ | The interesting thing is that someone with another T520 reported a similar problem: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1207661 | 21:07 |
| matthias_ | tgardner, would you recommend me to file the bug manually or do you have an idea how to get the "ubuntu-bug" running? | 21:10 |
| * ogasawara lunch | 21:10 | |
| tgardner | matthias_, manually | 21:10 |
| matthias_ | thanks, and sorry for the many questions ;) | 21:11 |
| matthias_ | ok, filed the bug (#888764) | 21:32 |
| hallyn | tgardner, yeah i386 precise starts fine for me on just-upgraded precise | 21:37 |
| hallyn | (boy that was a slow iso sync) | 21:37 |
| tgardner | hallyn, well, I'm installing a 64bit precise host, so I'll see if that is any different | 21:41 |
| apw | tgardner, i have a precise install but that was an oneiric-i386 which i think upgraded it to precise | 22:05 |
| apw | (in a KVM i mean) | 22:06 |
| tgardner | apw, I've now a 64bit precise host installing a PAE server ISO | 22:06 |
| apw | ahh, i see | 22:06 |
| apw | i guess i have an early enough kernel to have generic anyhow | 22:06 |
| tgardner | apw, I believe this combo addresses cjwatson's concerns about qemu not working with PAE | 22:06 |
| apw | ahh is 32 bit only really only 32bit not pae capable, interesting | 22:07 |
| tgardner | apw, you've just bent my mind | 22:07 |
| apw | is 32bit kvm not actually pae | 22:08 |
| tgardner | I was really only concerned that PAE work in all cases | 22:08 |
| * tgardner is outta here | 22:10 | |
| ppisati | have we ever released a kernel for the n900? | 23:15 |
| jjohansen | ppisati: nothing official that I know of | 23:32 |
| ppisati | uhm | 23:34 |
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