| Azelphur | anyone got any opinions on this? http://www.boffer.co.uk/ | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| Azelphur | on the surface of it it doesn't look too bad for a £100 tablet o.O | 00:03 |
| ubuntubhoy | resistive screen, it will drive hyou nuts | 00:05 |
| ubuntubhoy | you* | 00:05 |
| Azelphur | ah | 00:05 |
| ali1234 | Processor: ZiiLABS ZMS-08 HD Media-Rich Applications Processor what? | 00:09 |
| ali1234 | Operating System: Android 2.1 fail | 00:09 |
| Azelphur | righto, fail it is then :P | 00:09 |
| ali1234 | Screen Resolution: 480 x 800 pixels Oh dear, my phone has more pixels than that | 00:10 |
| Azelphur | tbh I should be trying to get my laptop back off this company that's had it in for repair for the past 3 months -.- | 00:10 |
| ali1234 | still i suppose it's not bad for £100 | 00:10 |
| Azelphur | doesn't look great shopping around you can get a refurb nook color for £110 | 00:10 |
| Azelphur | and it's cm supported with better specs :D | 00:10 |
| ali1234 | tablets are a bit rubbish anyway | 00:11 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 00:11 |
| Azelphur | my netbook can be a tablet, if I ever see it again xD | 00:11 |
| ubuntubhoy | tablets are fine, as long as you remember they aint PC's | 00:15 |
| ali1234 | "tablets are fine as long as you remember they don't really do anything useful" | 00:16 |
| ali1234 | "tablets are fine as long as you remember they are not PCs or netbooks or a kindle or a TV or a phone" | 00:17 |
| ubuntubhoy | lol | 00:17 |
| ubuntubhoy | they work ok as Kindles | 00:17 |
| ali1234 | they work OK as any of those things, except maybe the phone part | 00:18 |
| ubuntubhoy | and the PC part | 00:18 |
| === RhysMorgan is now known as Ababcus | ||
| AlanBell | morning all | 07:35 |
| MartijnVdS | \o AlanBell | 07:39 |
| gordonjcp | morning | 08:03 |
| gordonjcp | woo, time to leave | 08:03 |
| daubers | Morning | 08:10 |
| popey | Morning. | 08:10 |
| daubers | So Reading now has a hackspace with a space \o/ | 08:12 |
| daubers | (even if the space is in Woodley) | 08:13 |
| diplo | Morning | 08:16 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Meauning | 08:21 |
| dgjones | Morning all | 08:27 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:39 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer wonders if AlanBell is wake yet... | 08:41 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | s/wale/awake | 08:41 |
| === dgjones is now known as DJones | ||
| popey | 07:35:43 < AlanBell> morning all | 08:41 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | arggh | 08:41 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Thanks popey | 08:41 |
| popey | np | 08:41 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That was before I had booted up :-) | 08:41 |
| * AlanBell returns with coffee | 08:42 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Made the first coffee/tea at 06:15 though :-( | 08:42 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Morning AlanBell | 08:42 |
| popey | i was dreaming at 06:15 | 08:42 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Did you see my message last night about that little chilli I gave you? | 08:42 |
| * popey makes more coffee | 08:42 | |
| MartijnVdS | coffee? heathen! | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: I did, I will be very careful of it | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | I was a bit scared to begin wiht | 08:43 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer is already on 3rd cup | 08:43 | |
| * MartijnVdS has very black tea | 08:43 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It was probably, the hottest one I have *ever* had. | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | what does it take to get a chilli measured? | 08:46 |
| MartijnVdS | a scoville scale? | 08:46 |
| popey | a chromatograph? | 08:47 |
| MartijnVdS | exactly | 08:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scoville_scale | 08:47 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-performance_liquid_chromatography "This article may be too technical for most readers to understand." :-) | 08:48 |
| popey | hah | 08:48 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | AlanBell: get one of these rigs and you are there! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hplc.JPG | 08:48 |
| AlanBell | I think perhaps I will stick to the Bombay Torpedos to add to my scrambled eggs :) | 08:49 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The Dorset Naga is claimed to be in this range (855,000–1,463,700) | 08:49 |
| popey | i had scrambled egg this morning | 08:49 |
| popey | with salmon | 08:49 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Canonical pays well, then? | 08:50 |
| daubers | popey: Why did you ruin perfectly good eggs? | 08:50 |
| popey | haha | 08:50 |
| popey | it was discounted salmon in the co-op ☺ | 08:50 |
| popey | made a sarnie for wifey and brekkie for me | 08:50 |
| popey | salmon in eggs is nyommy | 08:50 |
| AlanBell | you can get scrambled eggs with salmon in the Popham Little Chef | 08:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The *Bangalore* Torpedo is probably in the 30 - 50,000 category ;-) | 08:52 |
| * AlanBell wonders if ☺☺☺☺ is a bug in the font | 08:52 | |
| MartijnVdS | MY EYES | 08:52 |
| popey | a bug? | 08:53 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Ubuntu Mono + multiple adjacent smiley faces = merged smiley faces | 08:54 |
| AlanBell | the ☺ glyph is wider than the monospaced space it should be sat in | 08:54 |
| popey | ah | 08:54 |
| popey | i am on the mac atm | 08:54 |
| AlanBell | however I am not sure I want that bug fixed | 08:54 |
| popey | will switch in 5 mins | 08:54 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:58 |
| Laney | it is because it falls back to another font | 09:06 |
| Laney | which is wider | 09:06 |
| Laney | afaik | 09:06 |
| Laney | →☺← | 09:07 |
| AlanBell | good point Laney, thanks | 09:08 |
| Laney | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/862401 | 09:09 |
| lubotu3` | Ubuntu bug 862401 in Ubuntu Font Family "Mono: please add left/right arrows" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 09:09 |
| AlanBell | ooh, nottingham happiness tonight | 09:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone know a good "cisco engineer"? | 09:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | for hire/rent? | 09:19 |
| dwatkins | TheOpenSourcerer: You mean someone with a CCNA? | 09:19 |
| * daubers used to be cisco qualified | 09:19 | |
| Laney | AlanBell: you coming? | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | Laney: sadly not, bit far for me | 09:20 |
| Laney | :( | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | tonytiger: o/ | 09:21 |
| daubers | Anybody know where I can get printed mifare cards for a reasonable price? | 09:22 |
| AlanBell | anyone from the Southampton area here? | 09:23 |
| * popey points AlanBell at tonytiger | 09:27 | |
| bigcalm | He's grrrrrrreat? | 09:28 |
| AlanBell | he is :) | 09:28 |
| bigcalm | This is true | 09:28 |
| * bigcalm tares himself away from uupc to make some coffee | 09:29 | |
| bigcalm | Oh, good morning peeps :) | 09:29 |
| * BigRedS ponders making a packaging-related joke at bigcalm | 09:37 | |
| BigRedS | good morning! | 09:37 |
| bigcalm | BigRedS: you've lost me already. Obviously I need that coffee that is still brewing | 09:41 |
| bigcalm | And hi :) | 09:41 |
| BigRedS | haha! G'morning! | 09:43 |
| BigRedS | Tare weight is the bit of net weight that is packaging | 09:43 |
| BigRedS | I think | 09:43 |
| BigRedS | contrived, perhaps. pedantic, definitely | 09:43 |
| bigcalm | Ah | 09:44 |
| bigcalm | I should open my calendar more often. Just noticed that my car's MOT expires at the end of the month :( | 09:45 |
| AlanBell | mine expires on saturday | 09:47 |
| AlanBell | might go sit in the MOT place with my laptop this afternoon | 09:47 |
| BigRedS | Oh. My insurance probably expires soon. | 09:47 |
| BigRedS | Last year I went to the bikelive show on this bike, and that's in a couple of weeks | 09:47 |
| daubers | BigRedS: I went to that last year! | 09:48 |
| daubers | BigRedS: Not going this year though :( | 09:48 |
| BigRedS | daubers: I'm still a maybe for this year | 09:49 |
| BigRedS | the only day I can go is the mondau, but technically I'm working until 6am that day... | 09:50 |
| Laney | man, sometimes aptitude can be quite dense | 09:50 |
| * AlanBell wonders if TheOpenSourcerer wants a nice tasty chicken | 09:50 | |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Is it dead? | 09:52 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: no, but it will be | 09:53 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | AlanBell: We are away all this weekend. | 09:53 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | "Youth Hostelling for 36 adults & kids" | 09:54 |
| AlanBell | nice | 09:54 |
| AlanBell | take them a chicken :) | 09:54 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 09:54 |
| AlanBell | hey kids, this is how you pluck a chicken | 09:54 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: has it stopped pooping eggs? | 09:54 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: it is a boy :( | 09:55 |
| bigcalm | Ah | 09:55 |
| AlanBell | boys are noisy and useless | 09:55 |
| popey | HAH! | 09:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Now where have I heard that before??? | 09:56 |
| BigRedS | My mother says things like that :( | 09:56 |
| popey | we often have boys vs girls at home | 09:56 |
| popey | given there's 3 of each | 09:56 |
| BigRedS | Then she acquired stepdaughters and changed her mind :) | 09:56 |
| popey | Me, Sam & Salem (cat) are the 'cool boys' and Clare, Sophie and Pringle (cat) are the 'smelly girls' | 09:56 |
| popey | blimey asus transformer is only 434 quid with the keyboard | 09:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | "*only* £434" Spoken like someone who is more used to paying overblown Apple prices ;-) | 10:00 |
| BigRedS | took me a few seconds to realise he wasn't talking about a power supply | 10:00 |
| brobostigon | !info udisks-deamon | 10:01 |
| lubotu3` | Package udisks-deamon does not exist in natty | 10:01 |
| BigRedS | brobostigon: !info udisks-daemon ? | 10:04 |
| BigRedS | !info udisks-daemon | 10:04 |
| lubotu3` | Package udisks-daemon does not exist in natty | 10:04 |
| BigRedS | oh | 10:04 |
| AlanBell | popey: are they available to buy yet? | 10:04 |
| popey | AlanBell: which? | 10:04 |
| popey | the transformer is, the newer 'transformer prime' isnt | 10:04 |
| AlanBell | ok | 10:05 |
| brobostigon | !info udisks | 10:05 |
| lubotu3` | udisks (source: udisks): storage media interface. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.2-4ubuntu2 (natty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1056 kB | 10:05 |
| KrisDouglas | I <3 my Transformer | 10:05 |
| MartijnVdS | Robots in disguise? | 10:05 |
| KrisDouglas | quite so MartijnVdS | 10:06 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ebuyer have the Transformer for £419.93 | 10:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | (Not the quad core) | 10:07 |
| popey | ooooo | 10:07 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | http://www.ebuyer.com/262116-asus-transformer-tf101-tablet-pc-tf101-1b028a | 10:08 |
| KrisDouglas | I paid 429 for my Transformer TF101 | 10:08 |
| KrisDouglas | @ PCW | 10:08 |
| popey | what gives with the circles on keys? | 10:10 |
| KrisDouglas | what do you mean? | 10:11 |
| ubuntubhoy | is anyone having issues with Wine in precise ? | 10:11 |
| popey | on 1, 6 and up and down | 10:11 |
| popey | they have circles on them | 10:11 |
| JamesTait | Tippity-top-tastic Thursday, everyone! ;) | 10:11 |
| KrisDouglas | Not a clue :) | 10:11 |
| popey | http://image.ebuyer.com/UK/P600-0262116-02.jpg | 10:11 |
| DJones | Maybe its Google Plus ready :) | 10:12 |
| KrisDouglas | popey, the function key combined with one of those buttons does nothing different than their original function | 10:12 |
| KrisDouglas | (excluding pgup and pgdown ofc) | 10:12 |
| Laney | quassel! | 10:19 |
| * Laney joins in with the quiz | 10:19 | |
| bigcalm | Nobody picked my obscure answer for the Dr. Who question | 10:20 |
| Laney | s390! mipsel! | 10:20 |
| popey | oooo local shop has a transformer | 10:25 |
| Laney | this quiz amuses me | 10:26 |
| Laney | iain approves | 10:26 |
| popey | what quiz? | 10:26 |
| Laney | on the uupc | 10:27 |
| popey | oh :D | 10:27 |
| popey | wondered what you were whittering on about then :D | 10:27 |
| Laney | gutsy gibbon | 10:27 |
| Dave2 | I'd given almost a full list for the Ubuntu codenames and had just forgotten Breezy :( | 10:28 |
| popey | wish I'd had that question | 10:28 |
| Laney | do we have the full lists? | 10:28 |
| popey | i would have said edgy | 10:28 |
| Laney | seeing what people said would be QI | 10:28 |
| Dave2 | I put edgy. | 10:28 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 10:28 |
| Laney | nein, the answers people gave | 10:28 |
| Dave2 | But then I put everything except Breezy. | 10:28 |
| popey | oh | 10:28 |
| popey | i bet intrepid wasnt a popular one people said | 10:29 |
| Dave2 | I definitely put down intrepid, for obvious reasons. | 10:29 |
| Laney | i remember it for its lovely t-shirt | 10:29 |
| popey | i prefer the bird one | 10:31 |
| Dave2 | Hardy? | 10:31 |
| popey | ya | 10:31 |
| popey | i have a few of them | 10:31 |
| KrisDouglas | My girlfriend always wears the Hardy t-shirt :) | 10:31 |
| Laney | mine got shredded by the washing machine | 10:32 |
| Dave2 | Could've been dapper. | 10:32 |
| Laney | but then the missus repaired it by doing a fabric graft | 10:32 |
| Dave2 | (Did they do dapper t-shirts?) | 10:32 |
| Laney | which means it is now disturbingly tight | 10:32 |
| KrisDouglas | Laney, lol. It was disturbingly tight on me anyway. Like a swimsuit 8-) Hence girlfriend use | 10:33 |
| KrisDouglas | I could write a manpage on how to obliterate an IRC channel. Did everyone die? | 10:40 |
| ubuntubhoy | 10:30 - Tea break | 10:40 |
| kirrus | 10:45 Talk about junk break | 10:44 |
| ubuntubhoy | close, 10:45 - nip out for a piss and a fag skive | 10:51 |
| czajkowski | directhex: I love how your blog feed is down for one of the feeds I've to watch! | 10:53 |
| czajkowski | at work | 10:53 |
| directhex | o_o | 10:54 |
| czajkowski | directhex: I work at h-online.com | 10:54 |
| czajkowski | your blog is under one of the feeds we watch | 10:54 |
| popey | is it filed under 'epic mono troll' ? | 10:55 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 10:55 |
| directhex | i suspect that's from chats on twitter with codepope | 10:55 |
| czajkowski | popey: I'm shocked yours isnt | 10:55 |
| czajkowski | I may need to fix that | 10:55 |
| czajkowski | :p | 10:55 |
| popey | i wouldn't bother | 10:56 |
| popey | i dont blog interesting stuff tbh | 10:56 |
| popey | that might change in the future | 10:56 |
| popey | :D | 10:56 |
| czajkowski | indeed | 11:00 |
| czajkowski | so in todays feeds so far all I can see is linux mint bumping ubuntu off the top spot | 11:00 |
| czajkowski | and fedora 16 still | 11:01 |
| bigcalm | The WC is getting out of hand :) | 11:04 |
| popey | yeah | 11:04 |
| czajkowski | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8879705/The-voice-behind-Siri-breaks-his-silence.html found this one interesting | 11:05 |
| davmor2 | morning all czajkowski prod | 11:09 |
| daubers | identi.ca must be playing in the big leagues now! I've just had my first spam follower | 11:09 |
| * czajkowski kicks davmor2 | 11:10 | |
| * davmor2 prods czajkowski repeatedly in the same spot | 11:11 | |
| czajkowski | davmor2: look you did that last week and I had a brusise on my arm | 11:12 |
| czajkowski | though to be fair you really freaked some folks up by walking up to me and ppking my arm | 11:12 |
| czajkowski | very odd looks indeed | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: hehehe | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: I'd say you bruised me when you hit me with the noise you're knuckles made but errmmm you didn't sorry :) | 11:13 |
| czajkowski | charming | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: well you know these things happen | 11:29 |
| davmor2 | gord: you about dude? | 11:29 |
| * Dave2 raises an eyebrow. | 11:29 | |
| Lantizia | Ubuntu LPIC Exam 199 - anyone know if it is still going or not? | 12:31 |
| popey | AlanBell: now I'm working from home I'm thinking of looking for a wokspace outside home so I can get a day away from the house. interested in looking for one? | 13:14 |
| AlanBell | funnily enough I was going to suggest something of the kind, like the wolves crowd are doing | 13:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Bizarre. I also was pondering the same. | 13:18 |
| KrisDouglas | I couldn't work from home, 2meg broadband vs 44meg broadband. | 13:18 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I would actually quite like a proper "office" | 13:18 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: AlanBell popey http://coworkingspace.info/ | 13:19 |
| czajkowski | TheOpenSourcerer: AlanBell popey http://wiki.coworking.info/w/page/16583718/CoworkingSurrey | 13:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ha - I know the first name on that list! | 13:21 |
| AlanBell | interesting | 13:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The Maltings has some (AIUI) low-cost rooms for this. | 13:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Roger Goscomb offered us use of some of their space in Frensham if we needed it... | 13:22 |
| popey | are you guys in FSB? | 13:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | No. | 13:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | SCC though | 13:25 |
| popey | FSB let you use Regus communal areas for nothing | 13:26 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Not quite what I had in mind. | 13:26 |
| popey | yeah | 13:26 |
| popey | useful for adhoc stuff | 13:27 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Then so is Starbuck ;-) | 13:27 |
| popey | true | 13:27 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | \s | 13:27 |
| popey | free tea/coffee at Regus :D | 13:27 |
| popey | unlike Starbucks | 13:27 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | True | 13:27 |
| bigcalm | popey: I have suggested the workplace day davmor2 and I will be attended next week | 13:28 |
| bigcalm | Apart from myself, it appears to be mostly Canonical people anyway | 13:29 |
| popey | bit far for us ☺ | 13:29 |
| bigcalm | Pfft :P | 13:29 |
| bigcalm | Only 150 miles | 13:30 |
| bigcalm | :D | 13:30 |
| davmor2 | haha | 13:30 |
| davmor2 | popey: shame on you where's your dedication dude 3 hours of train rides is a light commute for you dude ;) | 13:31 |
| popey | who was it here who has a transformer? | 13:31 |
| popey | kirrus: ? | 13:31 |
| popey | ah, KrisDouglas | 13:31 |
| popey | KrisDouglas: whats the first 3 digits of the serial number on yours? | 13:31 |
| KrisDouglas | popey, the transformer? | 13:32 |
| popey | yes | 13:32 |
| popey | not the keyboard, the device itself | 13:32 |
| KrisDouglas | sadly it's an unrootable B70 class | 13:32 |
| * kirrus waves hello, bye bye, and goes back to lurking | 13:32 | |
| popey | and how long ago did you get it | 13:32 |
| popey | bummer | 13:32 |
| popey | B60 is the rootable one isnt it? | 13:32 |
| KrisDouglas | B70KAS215707 | 13:32 |
| KrisDouglas | Some B70's are | 13:32 |
| KrisDouglas | you see mine is KAS21 | 13:33 |
| KrisDouglas | some of them (CAS14) use the old SBK to encrypt the bootloader | 13:33 |
| KrisDouglas | sorry nvflash, not bootloader | 13:33 |
| popey | hmm | 13:33 |
| KrisDouglas | I am just past the bracket for a rootable one and I bought this about 3 months back | 13:34 |
| KrisDouglas | I would give a much loved body part for a rootable one :) | 13:34 |
| KrisDouglas | I will just patiently wait for them to leak the new SBK however. | 13:35 |
| czajkowski | I should start to take bets on snow and my flight home for xmas! | 13:36 |
| ubuntubhoy | is anyone else having trouble with Wine 1.3 in either 11.10 or 12.04 ? | 13:37 |
| bigcalm | Whatever ships with 11.10 broke SQLyog for me :( | 13:37 |
| bigcalm | Might get around to pinning an old version | 13:38 |
| KrisDouglas | ubuntubhoy, It seems to be working well for me, better than the previous person to be honest. What problem are you experiencing? | 13:38 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: just book the train and ferry and save the heart ache | 13:40 |
| awilkins | Buffet restaurant lunches : an exercise in gluttony AND disappointment | 13:52 |
| popey | I don't miss thursday at my last place of work | 13:54 |
| popey | "Disappointing curry day" | 13:54 |
| bigcalm | It's Thursday? | 13:54 |
| bigcalm | Gah, I'm missing another day | 13:54 |
| awilkins | It is. | 13:54 |
| ubuntubhoy | KrisDouglas, cant get kindle to install, or previous install to start | 13:54 |
| bigcalm | popey: got a moment to test something for me please? :) | 13:55 |
| popey | ya | 13:55 |
| bigcalm | Yay | 13:56 |
| KrisDouglas | ubuntubhoy, do you run any other apps under wine? | 14:03 |
| czajkowski | yay for 4 day weeks :) | 14:03 |
| KrisDouglas | if you don't we could try resetting the bottle | 14:04 |
| KrisDouglas | sorry about the delayed response | 14:04 |
| ubuntubhoy | NP | 14:04 |
| ubuntubhoy | no, nothing else | 14:04 |
| KrisDouglas | Righto, open winetricks | 14:05 |
| KrisDouglas | select use default prefix, and then delete all data and applications | 14:06 |
| KrisDouglas | then close and try re-installing | 14:06 |
| ubuntubhoy | no joy - same result | 14:08 |
| KrisDouglas | let me try, one sec | 14:10 |
| KrisDouglas | I presume it has worked before, I'm sure i know someone else who uses it | 14:11 |
| ubuntubhoy | yeah | 14:11 |
| ubuntubhoy | iirc it wont work with the latest Kindle app | 14:12 |
| ubuntubhoy | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6297429/KindleForPC-installer.exe | 14:12 |
| ubuntubhoy | thats an older one I have used a load of times before | 14:12 |
| davmor2 | ubuntubhoy: if it is that you just want to read your kindle books you can install chromium and the kindle web app and read it from the browser | 14:12 |
| KrisDouglas | Yeah, the installer doesn't even load from the one that's on the amazon website | 14:12 |
| KrisDouglas | davmor2, smart arse :) | 14:13 |
| ubuntubhoy | davmor2, not keen on the web app | 14:13 |
| ubuntubhoy | and cabalt is it, is a little cluttered | 14:13 |
| davmor2 | ubuntubhoy: No it's the official Amazon Kindle chrome application | 14:14 |
| ubuntubhoy | yeah | 14:14 |
| ubuntubhoy | not cabalt, calibre | 14:15 |
| ubuntubhoy | nice app, but too cluttered | 14:15 |
| KrisDouglas | ubuntubhoy, I can't even get the installer you linked to load ;) | 14:15 |
| ubuntubhoy | davmor2, using it on a touchscreen | 14:15 |
| KrisDouglas | ubuntubhoy, buy a kindle? :) | 14:15 |
| ubuntubhoy | KrisDouglas, worse than me then | 14:15 |
| ubuntubhoy | lol | 14:15 |
| KrisDouglas | Yeah, everything else works | 14:16 |
| ubuntubhoy | K | 14:16 |
| ubuntubhoy | cheers anyway | 14:16 |
| ubuntubhoy | will see if I can find a wine 1.3 thats a little older somewhere | 14:16 |
| ubuntubhoy | think its wine rather than Ubuntu | 14:16 |
| KrisDouglas | might be something I'm missing but i'm certain I have windows installer setup | 14:16 |
| KrisDouglas | if I had more time I would try running it from the command line and seeing what messages it was dumping | 14:17 |
| ubuntubhoy | dont fret on it, was just checking if it was me or not | 14:17 |
| KrisDouglas | possibly, I am on the PPA latest version, so you and I may be experiencing similar issues | 14:17 |
| ubuntubhoy | yeah, if your 1.3 you should be ppa | 14:17 |
| ubuntubhoy | 1.2 is the standard repo version | 14:18 |
| ubuntubhoy | but it wont work with 1.2 | 14:18 |
| ubuntubhoy | that said its not working with 1.4 now either | 14:18 |
| ubuntubhoy | 1.3* | 14:18 |
| bastubis | I just read that Adobe are abandoning AIR for Linux so does this mean users won't be able to run Acroread any moer? | 15:00 |
| AlanBell | that is unrelated | 15:01 |
| bastubis | It doesn't run on AIR? | 15:01 |
| AlanBell | not to my knowledge, but I could be wrong | 15:05 |
| AlanBell | thought it was just a native application | 15:05 |
| AlanBell | BBC iPlayer is an air thing | 15:05 |
| brobostigon | i agree with alanbell, acrobat doesnt use air on linux, | 15:05 |
| ali1234 | acroread is ancient | 15:09 |
| Dave2 | Does anyone actually use acroread on Linux though? | 15:09 |
| bastubis | Yes, voluntary sector organisations | 15:09 |
| bastubis | it's crucial for them | 15:09 |
| AlanBell | why? | 15:10 |
| bastubis | all their funding applications have to be made on interactive pdf forms | 15:10 |
| bastubis | evince effs them up | 15:10 |
| bastubis | it's a deal breaker for them | 15:10 |
| AlanBell | ok, interesting | 15:10 |
| bastubis | if they can't use acroread they'll have to stop using linux | 15:10 |
| ali1234 | have you reported it as a bug? | 15:10 |
| bastubis | it's not a bug | 15:10 |
| AlanBell | is there a bug against evince for this? | 15:10 |
| ali1234 | yes it is | 15:10 |
| bastubis | oh, sorry - evince lol | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | with examples would be helpful too... are the forms publicly available? | 15:12 |
| AlanBell | I installed acroread once on ubuntu and it is horrible and slow, so I use evince, never had any issue with it , but I don't come across interactive PDF files | 15:12 |
| ali1234 | they've always been a problem | 15:12 |
| bastubis | they're unuseable | 15:13 |
| bastubis | you can fill in a pdf and print it (sort of, though this isn't very good either) | 15:13 |
| bastubis | but if you try to save them, they corrupt | 15:13 |
| bastubis | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480668 | 15:13 |
| lubotu3` | Gnome bug 480668 in PDF "save user input in pdf fillable forms" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] | 15:14 |
| bastubis | and people running Windows can't open the file | 15:14 |
| bastubis | I couldn't open it again on Ubuntu either | 15:14 |
| bastubis | I just install acroread for them - as far as I know it runs on AIR | 15:15 |
| bastubis | I use it myself for funding applications | 15:15 |
| AlanBell | either way, the current version of acroread will still work | 15:15 |
| AlanBell | don't know if they are ever going to release any updates to it | 15:15 |
| bastubis | yes, but eventually it'll become incompatible with current systems | 15:15 |
| bastubis | surely? | 15:15 |
| bastubis | they said they're not going to develop it anymore | 15:16 |
| AlanBell | no, not really | 15:16 |
| bastubis | so it'll stay in the partner repos? | 15:16 |
| AlanBell | don't see why not | 15:16 |
| AlanBell | might not go into new partner repos, but you should be able to grab the .deb file from the older ones if it doesn't | 15:17 |
| AlanBell | and file bugs against evince if there are forms it doesn't work with | 15:17 |
| brobostigon | ok, in debian sid, under non-free repo, acroread has no depend on adobe air. so can be installed and ran without adobe air. conclusive. | 15:18 |
| bastubis | apparently americans also use it for their tax forms: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/518230 | 15:18 |
| lubotu3` | Ubuntu bug 518230 in evince (Ubuntu) "Some PDF forms don't save entered information" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:18 |
| bastubis | ah, that's a relief then | 15:18 |
| Twinkletoes | Troubles with vim syntax, I'm trying to sort a range of lines. I've marked a and b (and verified using :marks), and am using the command: ma,mbsort but I'm getting an error "E488 Trailing Characters". | 15:18 |
| bastubis | Evince pretty much doesn't work with *any* forms - I can't file a bug every time lol | 15:19 |
| AlanBell | "Running the original pdf through either pdfopt or pdfedit's delinearize | 15:19 |
| AlanBell | function creates a form that can be correctly saved, at least in this | 15:19 |
| ali1234 | you don't need to | 15:19 |
| bastubis | yeah but a bunch of VCS organisations aren't going to do that | 15:20 |
| AlanBell | no, but it is an interesting suggestion which indicates that the problem might be solveable | 15:20 |
| AlanBell | sounds to me like the source forms don't conform to the standard | 15:21 |
| bastubis | yes, looks that way | 15:21 |
| AlanBell | but acrobat is incorrectly working fine with them | 15:21 |
| bastubis | but you can't control what the US tax office - or UK funders - do with their forms | 15:21 |
| AlanBell | so evince needs to reproduce the bug in acrobat that make it work fine | 15:21 |
| bastubis | it has to work with whatever messed up rubbish such agencies choose to foist on us | 15:21 |
| AlanBell | indeed | 15:22 |
| ali1234 | the bug is probably in the standard | 15:22 |
| AlanBell | either way, report bugs give them an example of a form that doesn't work | 15:22 |
| bastubis | I think they'd want to kill me after a couple of weeks lol | 15:23 |
| bastubis | very few forms *do* work | 15:23 |
| bastubis | In fact, I never met any one form that did | 15:23 |
| * AlanBell has never come across any forms | 15:23 | |
| popey | i have | 15:23 |
| popey | HMRC have some | 15:23 |
| popey | i usually print them | 15:23 |
| bastubis | My accountant copes with the tax, but she uses Windows | 15:24 |
| bastubis | god popey - try filling in a funder form with a biro lol | 15:24 |
| AlanBell | I think I may have come across an HMRC form that I had to fill out on screen and then print and sign | 15:24 |
| bastubis | they're 20 pages or worse | 15:24 |
| bastubis | Funders send you massive, bureaucratic forms 20-40 pages long | 15:25 |
| bastubis | when printed, they're about 3 inches thick | 15:25 |
| AlanBell | there was no saving of it and it seemed to work fine in evince, don't think I have ever saved a form | 15:25 |
| bastubis | You have to fill in mountains of detailed crap | 15:25 |
| bastubis | and then email the result | 15:25 |
| bastubis | It usually takes several days to fill them in, and you need to save constantly or you lose your wwork | 15:25 |
| bastubis | then you have to print two copies, email one and mail one, with one for your files | 15:26 |
| bastubis | so you know what you said to them | 15:26 |
| DJones | When I'm forward buying foreign currency, the bank faxes a document to confirm, which I can then either fax or post back to them, or scan & email. Why don't they just email it to me in the first place | 15:26 |
| bastubis | It's so complicated that if it doesn't save properly, you've lost days of work | 15:26 |
| DJones | At no point does anybody have to sign what they send through, I literaly just send exactly what they send me, back unchanged | 15:27 |
| bastubis | I have the same problem with my bank, have to print it out, sign it, scan it, email it back | 15:27 |
| === EgbertPopplewick is now known as Hornet | ||
| KrisDouglas | Fax to email :) | 15:55 |
| KrisDouglas | I think i have a virus, I keep killing ubuntu UK | 16:24 |
| DJones | Heh | 16:25 |
| DJones | Probably so many people were at UDS recently, they're still writing up their notes from then & deciding who's going to do what | 16:26 |
| Myrtti | i think i locked myself out :-( | 16:30 |
| Myrtti | boo | 16:30 |
| KrisDouglas | DJones, maybe. | 16:32 |
| KrisDouglas | Myrtti, of Ubuntu or your house? | 16:32 |
| KrisDouglas | I can probably solve the former but the latter is a touchy subject :) | 16:32 |
| Myrtti | my aoartment | 16:32 |
| KrisDouglas | oh. | 16:32 |
| KrisDouglas | well it's not all bad news, how much battery do you have remaining? | 16:33 |
| Myrtti | latter is a touchy subject for a Finnish Tarzan | 16:33 |
| Myrtti | enough to go to my sisters by bus, was going anyway but may have forgotten to pack my keys | 16:34 |
| Myrtti | among other things | 16:35 |
| KrisDouglas | well you don't have to commit suicide just yet if you still have battery | 16:35 |
| KrisDouglas | now is your chance to use the power of google to become a locksmith | 16:35 |
| Myrtti | haha no | 16:36 |
| Myrtti | two Abloy executive standard locks | 16:36 |
| Myrtti | cant pick them | 16:36 |
| Myrtti | Ill just return with a spare key, my sister has one | 16:37 |
| Myrtti | if I werent going to hers, I'd call the maintenance guys, they have a master key | 16:38 |
| Myrtti | also bill 30-60e for it | 16:39 |
| bigcalm | So glad I didn't bother adding 1-2 day shipping onto my Amazon order and went with the free 3-5 day option. Email from Amazon saying the item I ordered last night has just been shipped this afternoon | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | Must be a slow day for them | 16:41 |
| gord | <3 amazon prime | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | I don't order enough to be able to make use of prime | 16:42 |
| bigcalm | gord: are you joining us for the work place day next week? | 16:43 |
| gord | should do, weather permitting - if its freezing cold and pouring down, maybe not ;) | 16:43 |
| bigcalm | Ah, sweet | 16:44 |
| bigcalm | You can offset davmor2's crazyness ;) | 16:44 |
| bigcalm | I think mrevell is joining us as well | 16:44 |
| bigcalm | That's 4, any more? | 16:44 |
| * bigcalm pokes aquarius | 16:44 | |
| mrevell | bigcalm, I aim to. drussell may want to as well. | 16:45 |
| bigcalm | mrevell: yay. Though I'm not sure if I've seen drussell talk before | 16:45 |
| mrevell | There are some other people knocking around our area from Canonical who I might prod. | 16:45 |
| bigcalm | Yeah, I'm feeling a little out of place not working for Canonical :P | 16:46 |
| * aquarius is poked | 16:46 | |
| aquarius | what about? | 16:46 |
| bigcalm | aquarius: work place day at the Lighthouse next Thursday | 16:46 |
| bigcalm | (17th) | 16:47 |
| aquarius | ah, right. Don't know at the moment | 16:47 |
| bigcalm | Which isn't a flat out 'no', good enough for now :) | 16:47 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: I'm not cra-tic-zy | 16:50 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: keep telling yourself that. Shall we call you Darling? | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: I'm more worried about you calling me darling :/ | 16:56 |
| ali1234 | is anyone going to the happy hour? | 17:00 |
| ali1234 | it's tonight right? | 17:00 |
| popey | yes | 17:00 |
| bigcalm | Not in my location | 17:01 |
| ali1234 | popey: are you really "might be attending"? | 17:01 |
| ali1234 | isn't it a bit far from you? | 17:01 |
| popey | 17:00:51 < ali1234> it's tonight right? | 17:01 |
| popey | 17:00:56 < popey> yes | 17:01 |
| popey | ☺ | 17:01 |
| bigcalm | He's a bugger for that | 17:01 |
| ali1234 | popey: yeah but... on the page it says you "might be attending" | 17:01 |
| popey | oh i see | 17:02 |
| bigcalm | Best to check what popey is actually answering to :P | 17:02 |
| * popey fix0r3s that | 17:02 | |
| ali1234 | that page is really hard to find btw | 17:02 |
| popey | fix0r3d | 17:02 |
| popey | yes, it is | 17:02 |
| popey | well, i went loco.ubuntu.com -> click europe -> click uk -> click event | 17:03 |
| Laney | what page? | 17:03 |
| popey | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1373/detail/ | 17:03 |
| Laney | ta | 17:03 |
| ali1234 | i have to find it by going to the uuk mailing list and finding the post where it is linked | 17:03 |
| popey | i tried to argue that it should be /teamname/eventname/ or /teamname/yy/mm/dd/event or something | 17:03 |
| ali1234 | if i go to the happy hour main page, it isn't linked | 17:03 |
| popey | but the loco directory guys are somewhat resistant to removing those numbers in the middle | 17:03 |
| ali1234 | http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ <- this one | 17:03 |
| ali1234 | that one is easy to find | 17:04 |
| ali1234 | but it doesn't link to the event pages | 17:04 |
| popey | well thats silly | 17:04 |
| popey | the ones above link right | 17:04 |
| ali1234 | the ones above? | 17:04 |
| drussell | mrevell: :oD hehe yeah I'm hoping to also... | 17:04 |
| ali1234 | the thing is if you google "ubuntu happy hour" you get that listing page i just linked, and you can't get from there to the individual event pages | 17:04 |
| popey | fixed | 17:05 |
| ali1234 | also did you know that the "ubuntu-uk" in the event url is meaningless? only the number does anything, you can put any valid loco or possibly any string in place of "ubuntu-uk" and you still get the event, eg http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/balhbalh/1373/detail/ | 17:05 |
| popey | haha | 17:06 |
| ali1234 | i found this because i was trying to find it starting at the 1277 (everyone knows 1277 right) by incrementing the number | 17:06 |
| popey | thats probably why they dont want the url monkeyed with | 17:06 |
| ali1234 | and i got all other loco events | 17:06 |
| aquarius | popey, did you ever experiment with software audio transcription for uupc? | 17:07 |
| ali1234 | so anyone from IRC going to this thing? or is it all mailing list people? | 17:07 |
| aquarius | specifically: if you did, what did you use? :) | 17:07 |
| Laney | i am going | 17:07 |
| Laney | as is moodoo | 17:07 |
| ali1234 | k. i'll see you there then :) | 17:08 |
| Laney | i should find my uds badge so that i look cool | 17:10 |
| ali1234 | i should shave so i don't look like a hobo | 17:10 |
| popey | aquarius: software to aid people doing transcriptions? | 17:11 |
| popey | aquarius: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PodcastTranscription | 17:11 |
| aquarius | no. speech recognition software to *do* the transcription :) | 17:11 |
| popey | no | 17:12 |
| aquarius | cool, just wondered :) | 17:13 |
| MartijnVdS | Siri, transcribe the podcast for me | 17:18 |
| popey | i had a chat with siri earlier | 17:19 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: And? | 17:19 |
| popey | the way he says "okay" is quite odd | 17:19 |
| popey | it kinda tails off | 17:19 |
| MartijnVdS | Okaaayy... | 17:20 |
| popey | yeah | 17:20 |
| popey | uh-kaaay | 17:20 |
| MartijnVdS | must be something 'merkin | 17:20 |
| * MartijnVdS runs off to see how his standard lap looks in the dark | 17:22 | |
| === MichealH is now known as MH0 | ||
| kaushal | Hi | 17:40 |
| kaushal | Can someone please guide me about http://iwatch.sourceforge.net/index.html | 17:40 |
| kaushal | I have installed and its up and running in daemon mode | 17:41 |
| kaushal | I have tested it by editing /etc/motd file | 17:41 |
| kaushal | i did not get a email alert after editing it | 17:41 |
| kaushal | Am i missing something | 17:41 |
| kaushal | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/734425/ | 17:42 |
| bigcalm | kaushal: can you send email from that machine? | 17:43 |
| kaushal | bigcalm: yes | 17:45 |
| === AndroBug is now known as DaveBugs | ||
| DaveBugs | Evening | 17:46 |
| DaveBugs | Anyone heading to the Nottingham Happy Hour tonight? | 17:46 |
| popey | i suspect some are, yes ☺ | 17:49 |
| DaveBugs | Popey: Does that include you now? :-) | 17:53 |
| popey | nope | 17:53 |
| DaveBugs | Woohoo! | 17:54 |
| DaveBugs | I mean, too bad. | 17:54 |
| popey | hah | 17:55 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer wants to go out for a beer this evening but it's Parent's evening at the school. :-( | 17:55 | |
| Hux18 | ~emaker | 17:56 |
| Hux18 | #emaker | 17:56 |
| popey | heh, i had my parents evening last night | 17:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | All good? | 17:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | My wife was out last night with her mates. | 17:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | We are both out tomorrow - so no pub for me :-( | 17:59 |
| popey | yeah, all good | 17:59 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | tea time :-) | 18:00 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | bbl | 18:00 |
| === darael is now known as Darael | ||
| * bigcalm wonders where his Hayley is | 18:01 | |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: stuck in traffic | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | </guess> | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | Buying you an early christmas present | 18:03 |
| MartijnVdS | </guess> | 18:03 |
| bigcalm | MartijnVdS: I'll go with the latter please | 18:05 |
| DaveBugs | At The Roundhouse... Rather early. | 18:40 |
| ali1234 | i'm just setting off | 18:40 |
| ali123456 | testing irc works on my phone | 18:41 |
| popey | heh | 18:45 |
| AlanBell | ali123456: it does \o/ | 18:46 |
| DaveBugs | ali123456: see you in a bit | 18:46 |
| shauno | oauth can die in fire :( | 18:47 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: what alternative do you propose | 18:48 |
| shauno | a thousand papercuts might be a suitable alternate death. fire seems simpler though | 18:48 |
| MartijnVdS | no I mean alternative to oauth | 18:59 |
| DaveBugs | LOL | 19:00 |
| shauno | I'm trying to do a single-user command-line app to a web service. a simple shared secret would suffice | 19:03 |
| DaveBugs | C'mon, it's 19:02... Where is everyone? | 19:03 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 19:03 |
| DaveBugs | It's not very Ubuntu-y here at the moment. | 19:07 |
| DaveBugs | Just me and my beer. | 19:08 |
| * gordonjcp is about to go out for a drive | 19:08 | |
| MartijnVdS | Beer | 19:09 |
| MartijnVdS | DaveBugs: you have great ideas | 19:09 |
| DaveBugs | Yes, yes I do. | 19:10 |
| gordonjcp | not for me right now | 19:10 |
| shauno | I rarely get any more entertaining than this, unfortunately | 19:11 |
| shauno | there's something about waking up at 4:30am which inflicts all the personality of a zombie :( | 19:11 |
| DaveBugs | shauno: try beer. | 19:11 |
| shauno | that'd currently lead to a grape vs grain conflict | 19:11 |
| mgdm | gordonjcp: anywhere fun? | 19:11 |
| bigcalm | Do zombies like beer? | 19:11 |
| DaveBugs | shauno: ouch, you don't want that. | 19:12 |
| MartijnVdS | I have some beer my brothers made | 19:12 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 19:12 |
| shauno | bigcalm: I hope so, because it's about all ireland has when The Day comes | 19:12 |
| Darael | bigcalm: They like that Welsh beverage, at least. | 19:12 |
| DaveBugs | Why didn't I bring a USB cable :-( | 19:12 |
| shauno | MartijnVdS: by 'my brothers', I'm chosing to believe you keep a small commune of trappist monks imprisoned in your basement for this very purpose :) | 19:13 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: You may choose to believe that :) | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: Except I don't have the basement | 19:14 |
| Darael | shauno: Bear in mind that he /would/ deny it. | 19:14 |
| shauno | interesting. I've never tried keeping monks anywhere else | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Darael: I would? | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Darael: I need my dungeons for other things | 19:15 |
| shauno | of course. a dutchman with belgian beer? the scandal would reach the tabloids | 19:15 |
| Darael | MartijnVdS: Most people would. They wouldn't want anyone stealing the monks. | 19:15 |
| Darael | That, too. | 19:15 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: there's an official Trappist brewery near Tilburg in the Netherlands | 19:15 |
| shauno | heh, good save | 19:15 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: they were in the news yesterday, they need to get more tanks because of increased demand | 19:16 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: http://www.latrappe.nl | 19:16 |
| shauno | surely there's cheaper methods of crowd control. tanks seem a tad OTT for monks | 19:17 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: it's _beer_ we're talking about | 19:17 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: isn't that also what the London riots were about earlier?> | 19:17 |
| shauno | no idea, I didn't think to ask | 19:17 |
| gordonjcp | mgdm: nah, just dropping off and picking up bits of junk | 19:18 |
| mgdm | gordonjcp: ah | 19:18 |
| shauno | I haven't lived in the UK for a *long* time. ever since I discovered KFC were the only people willing to even offer me an interview | 19:18 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: Why's that? | 19:19 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: criminal record? | 19:19 |
| shauno | because I lived in a blackhole that was built around ironworks and shipbuilding. neither of which are exactly growth industries anymore | 19:19 |
| gordonjcp | shauno: where do you live now? | 19:20 |
| MartijnVdS | a cardboard box? | 19:20 |
| shauno | currently, ireland | 19:20 |
| shauno | I tried the states but they're a bit .. I'm not sure of a polite way to describe it | 19:21 |
| mgdm | A bit too much like the US? | 19:21 |
| mgdm | :) | 19:21 |
| shauno | polarizing, I guess. it's either really works for you, or it really doesn't | 19:21 |
| DaveBugs | Marmite. | 19:23 |
| MartijnVdS | *shudder* | 19:23 |
| popey | \o/ | 19:23 |
| DaveBugs | LOL | 19:23 |
| shauno | I have to say ireland's working out a charm, however. they're similar enough to $HOME to be comfortable, but different enough to be worth the move | 19:23 |
| DaveBugs | Hehe | 19:23 |
| shauno | DaveBugs: that's a perfect analogy. the US is marmite. | 19:24 |
| gord | i don't have a drivers licence, if i tried to live in the states i'd die of starvation within weeks. | 19:24 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: nah in big cities you don't need a car unless you live in the 'burbs | 19:24 |
| gordonjcp | gord: I do have a driving licence, but if I tried to live in the states I'd die of boredom on their roads | 19:24 |
| shauno | I don't either. Cycling in michigan winters is a very peculiar skill | 19:24 |
| gordonjcp | miles and miles and miles of perfectly straight road, with a 55mph speed limit, and cars that can't actually stop or go round corners and struggle to manage the speed limit anyway | 19:25 |
| * czajkowski hugs gord | 19:25 | |
| popey | I had a nice hire car at UDS | 19:25 |
| popey | scared sladen a bit with it :D | 19:25 |
| czajkowski | you did indeed | 19:25 |
| smittix | does anyone know how to change the window font size in 11.10? gnome tweak tool doesnt seem to want to change that. | 19:25 |
| smittix | every other font it changes fine. | 19:25 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: one of those monster SUVs? | 19:26 |
| smittix | popey: sladen as in paul sladen? | 19:26 |
| shauno | I bought a 1974 mini. which was all very well, but I had to actively search for roads with enough corners to make it worth it. luckily michigan is blessed with a couple of coastlines | 19:26 |
| czajkowski | smittix: aye | 19:26 |
| smittix | heh went to school with him. | 19:26 |
| * MartijnVdS sticks to his Smart | 19:26 | |
| * smittix has a Zafira | 19:26 | |
| gordonjcp | I need to decide whether I'm keeping or selling the Citroën | 19:27 |
| shauno | I want another mini here, but they've so many guards that I've a feeling I'll need a license this time | 19:27 |
| gordonjcp | I haven't driven it this year | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: Citroen what? | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | uhr | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: | 19:27 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: CX 22TRS | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | tab error :) | 19:27 |
| czajkowski | smittix: really, he's a really good guy | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: ah oldie? | 19:27 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: I've got an '81 CX Reflex stored in my mate's yard, too | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: I have a '02 ForTwo | 19:27 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: I have a Mercedes van for work, so I tend to not use the car so much | 19:28 |
| smittix | czajkowski: aye, nice bloke indeed. | 19:28 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: don't know if you were at Oggcamp but that's what I went there in | 19:28 |
| shauno | gordonjcp: that sounds like the best way to do it. that way, you can get the silly impractical car that's actually fun | 19:28 |
| gordonjcp | diesel for half the trip was, uh, sponsored by my fuel card | 19:29 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: I wasn't, but I'll try to be at a future Oggcamp if there is one | 19:29 |
| popey | smittix: yes | 19:29 |
| DaveBugs | I wanted a For Four, but them they stooped making them. | 19:29 |
| DaveBugs | Stopped | 19:29 |
| popey | I got a Chevy Impala I think it was | 19:30 |
| DaveBugs | Someone is here!! | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | DaveBugs: they may have stooped as well ;) | 19:30 |
| gordonjcp | DaveBugs: I quite liked the sound of the Brabus Smart Fortwo | 19:30 |
| DaveBugs | \I/O | 19:30 |
| DaveBugs | Bloody stockinette | 19:30 |
| gordonjcp | DaveBugs: with the custom-made V6 engine made of two normal Smart engines welded together | 19:30 |
| DaveBugs | Autocomplete | 19:30 |
| DaveBugs | Gah | 19:30 |
| shauno | I drove the missus' chevvy for a while. absolutely terrifying | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: scary | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: one Smart engine in a Smart is scary enough already | 19:31 |
| DaveBugs | Hehe | 19:31 |
| shauno | I've only driven on the interstate once. I've only fallen asleep on the interstate once. and I've only woken up on the interstate once. cruise control is *not* a feature, it's a WONTFIX. | 19:32 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: ye | 19:32 |
| smittix | Surprised sladen doesn't lurk in here. | 19:32 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: bet it sounds amazing | 19:32 |
| popey | he does sometimes | 19:32 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: it's a normal "cheap end of the spectrum" model | 19:33 |
| smittix | Small world | 19:33 |
| gordonjcp | right all you south of england people | 19:33 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: I'm always surprised at how large it is on the inside | 19:33 |
| smittix | Does he still have long hair? Haven't seen him in ages. | 19:33 |
| gordonjcp | what would be the pros and cons of travelling to France via Folkestone or Dover? | 19:33 |
| popey | smittix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZplO4XPpE | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: Felixstowe/Harwich <-> Hook of Holland | 19:34 |
| smittix | popey: LOL | 19:34 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: that's less handy for going to Switzerland | 19:34 |
| smittix | He hasn't changed | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: Though car + train + tunnel is cheaper (because you pay for the car, not for separate passengers, as on a boat) | 19:35 |
| popey | ☺ | 19:35 |
| shauno | I really should try to see more of holland sometime. iceland is currently top of my hitlist tho | 19:35 |
| shauno | popey: what on earth was that? it set irssi's text entry to inverse video | 19:35 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: it's a smiley face. you might need to fix your utf8s | 19:35 |
| shauno | bah | 19:36 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: ah, good point, I was only looking at ferries | 19:36 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: also, you might need to adjust your headlights on this side of the water | 19:36 |
| shauno | tmux appears to be turning utf8 into breakfast cereal. everything else in the chain appears to be well-behaved | 19:36 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: (so we don't get blinded by them) | 19:36 |
| smittix | popey: ? | 19:36 |
| matti | :) | 19:37 |
| popey | tmux huh.. byobu is switching from GNU Screen to tmux | 19:37 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: there's a button for that | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: only for up/down, not for left/right | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: at least on the cars I've seen | 19:37 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: nope, it's got left-right too | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: ooh shiny | 19:37 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: it's a nice bit of design | 19:38 |
| shauno | tmux is actively maintained and has a much smaller memory footprint. past that, I bear no allegiances | 19:38 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: I may be picking up an old VW T4, and I know I can get LHD headlamps for that quite cheaply | 19:38 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: I'm going to have to ask around on how it works on my Smart | 19:39 |
| shauno | amazon sent me an invitiation to a 'trial' of amazon prime, then don't let me sign up for it because I'm not in .co.uk. fail. | 19:40 |
| gordonjcp | MartijnVdS: oh wow, the eurotunnel is like half the price | 19:40 |
| gordonjcp | now I just need 500 quid's worth of diesel | 19:40 |
| MartijnVdS | gordonjcp: maybe it's cheaper in France? | 19:40 |
| shauno | oh, completely random. I had a job interview today. they specified linux experience. the complete extent of the linux-relevant questions, were "what does the kernel do" | 19:41 |
| MartijnVdS | fial | 19:41 |
| shauno | this made me a sad puppy. I like it when the interview is a challenge between my experience vs the interviewer's experience. not high-level dross | 19:42 |
| shauno | I really need to figure out when it's acceptable to ask the interviewer to stop pussy-footing around and raise the bar | 19:46 |
| smittix | Heh Kevin Mitnick has just emailed me and confirms he uses Ubuntu | 19:46 |
| smittix | how awesome is that. | 19:47 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mghhLqu31cQ# | 19:48 |
| MartijnVdS | ^ for all you people who live on the internets | 19:50 |
| === stefano_ is now known as stefano-palazzo | ||
| shauno | I don't .. dmanit .. I do, don't I | 19:51 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: just click the link | 19:51 |
| shauno | I had to turn it off. It was spoiling my musics. | 19:52 |
| mgdm | The guy on the bass looks like Sheldon out of Big Bang Theory | 20:00 |
| mgdm | I might be wrong, but I could've sworn that a while back, I could do `apt-get install name-of-a-local-package-file.deb` and it would install the .deb file I pointed it at, but get it to resolve the dependencies using the normal way | 20:22 |
| mgdm | Is this something that was ever possible? | 20:23 |
| MartijnVdS | no? | 20:23 |
| MartijnVdS | dpkg -i + apt-get -f install works for me most of the time | 20:23 |
| mgdm | Hmmm. Maybe it's a yum thing :) | 20:23 |
| MartijnVdS | and there's gdebi | 20:23 |
| popey | yay gdebi | 20:23 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: scary man | 20:24 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| shauno | I've never used apt like that. apt doesn't install packages, it just finds them for dpkg | 20:30 |
| mgdm | There is a package manager somewhere that can do that - I suspect it's either yum or perhaps up2date | 20:30 |
| MartijnVdS | autopackage | 20:32 |
| MartijnVdS | *runs* | 20:32 |
| shauno | yum I'm unfamiliar with; I haven't used RH since it came bundled with Unleashed books | 20:32 |
| shauno | or the other way around; I haven't touched an rpm-based system since debian 2.2r2 | 20:34 |
| Oli | Huzzah! | 20:36 |
| smittix | I like it how i can do yum install nautilus-* and it will install everything. can you do that with apt? | 20:37 |
| Azelphur | smittix: yes | 20:37 |
| smittix | same way? apt-get install nautilus-* | 20:38 |
| smittix | ? | 20:38 |
| Azelphur | yep | 20:38 |
| shauno | Note, selecting tortoisehg-nautilus for regex ‘nautilus-*’ | 20:39 |
| shauno | etc | 20:39 |
| Oli | smittix: I'm not sure I'd recommend blindly installing things - not all packages are awesome. | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | team meeting in 10 minutes or so | 20:46 |
| daubers | Oooh | 20:46 |
| AlanBell | DaveBug: Laney: are you in a pub? | 20:46 |
| daubers | That was good timing then | 20:46 |
| daubers | Also, evening :) | 20:46 |
| AlanBell | okies, everyone got beer/wine/coffee/tea ready for a meeting in #ubuntu-uk-meeting very shortly? | 21:02 |
| * bigcalm nips to the loo | 21:03 | |
| AlanBell | anyone want to go to a happy hour in early December? | 21:32 |
| christel | yes | 21:43 |
| christel | \o/ | 21:43 |
| christel | not the 3rd mind, as that's the freenode staff christmas do | 21:43 |
| christel | also, sorry, i was scrolled up so i missed the topic change! | 21:43 |
| AlanBell | Christmas meal -> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/ | 22:22 |
| ubuntubhoy | all alone :-( | 22:23 |
| ubuntubhoy | not very festive | 22:23 |
| AlanBell | thats me | 22:24 |
| ubuntubhoy | remember to take a mirror, just in case you get lonely | 22:24 |
| funkyHat | hoho | 22:24 |
| AlanBell | won't help, it is in total darkness | 22:24 |
| funkyHat | It sounds rather interesting | 22:24 |
| ubuntubhoy | thats easy then, take a dinner party recording and join in | 22:25 |
| mattt | dans le noir? odd :/ | 22:28 |
| daftykins | meals served by blind staff | 22:31 |
| daftykins | don't wear anything you like... | 22:31 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: I want to register for the event though I don't know at this point if Hayley can come or not | 22:31 |
| bigcalm | Should I put it down as 0 or 1 guest? | 22:31 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: sure, you can change your number of guests so don't worry too much | 22:31 |
| bigcalm | daftykins: that's a little mean | 22:32 |
| AlanBell | I hope she can come, it will be fun! | 22:32 |
| bigcalm | That's what I'm thinking :D | 22:32 |
| AlanBell | daftykins: the blind staff won't have a problem, you will though | 22:32 |
| bigcalm | There we go | 22:32 |
| mattt | heh, it's like irc ... but in person | 22:32 |
| mattt | i still think it's odd ;D | 22:32 |
| daftykins | AlanBell: :D | 22:32 |
| bigcalm | Haha | 22:32 |
| daftykins | indeed, i can't get to London! | 22:32 |
| daftykins | fail at the first hurdle | 22:32 |
| AlanBell | mattt: well normal wouldn't really be "us" would it! | 22:33 |
| mattt | AlanBell: freaks! | 22:33 |
| AlanBell | yay | 22:33 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: so far it's just you and me. How romantic ;) | 22:35 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: you all look the same in the dark :) | 22:40 |
| ubuntubhoy | but do they feel the same ?? | 22:40 |
| AlanBell | mooooving on | 22:40 |
| bigcalm | HAHA | 22:41 |
| mattt | :P | 22:42 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| daftykins | most restaurants are practically pitch black already with the fashionable dim lighting ;) | 22:44 |
| daftykins | one of our fave local pubs actually cranks the music up and the lights down at a set time of evening :S quite daft it is | 22:45 |
| AlanBell | there is quite a lot of difference between low light and no light | 22:45 |
| daftykins | well yes but what i'm doing here is called making conversation branching from a topic, rather than being specifically to do with it | 22:45 |
| AlanBell | I find your expectation of social skills . . . disturbing | 22:46 |
| AlanBell | :) | 22:46 |
| daftykins | not sure i follow | 22:47 |
| daftykins | i found your comment rude so carried on ^_^ | 22:47 |
| AlanBell | christmas meal mail sent :) | 22:47 |
| AlanBell | no intention to be rude, sorry if I was | 22:48 |
| daftykins | that's ok | 22:48 |
| * mattt gets his python on | 22:54 | |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: It's the beginning of November and you've signed off your email with 'Happy Christmas'. I find this strangely disturbing | 22:54 |
| AlanBell | tweeted, and G+ed it | 22:57 |
| DaveBug | AlanBell: We /were/ in a pub... but I'm at home now | 23:24 |
| AlanBell | how did it go? | 23:24 |
| mattt | AlanBell: : what's your twitter? | 23:30 |
| AlanBell | @alanbell_libsol | 23:32 |
| mattt | was really hoping it was @alanbell :/ | 23:34 |
| AlanBell | sadly I didn't get there in time for that | 23:35 |
| * bigcalm engages sleep mode | 23:45 | |
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