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pleia24 of us here at the ubuntu hour02:50
pleia2:)02:51
* broder waves02:53
akkhi all!02:58
dedaluxHi03:26
pleia2hello dedalux03:29
pleia2http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6330024405/ from tonight :)03:29
pleia2picked up the thunderbird sickers at uds03:30
pleia2stickers03:30
akkNice spread!03:30
BotenAnnahttp://www.theverge.com/2011/11/10/2552190/senate-defeats-bill-that-would-have-overturned-net-neutrality-rules yay!18:32
BotenAnnadystopian nightmare where the "real" internet is a darknet averted slightly!18:33
nhainesBotenAnna: I'm also happy about the "anti-bullying unless you think you should be able to bully" law in Michigan.18:33
BotenAnnahaha yeah that was really freaking dumb18:33
BotenAnnaand mississippi of all places, in the midst of a heated election where conservative candidates resoundingly won their seats, resoundingly defeated a proposition that a legal person is defined at conception18:35
nhainesBotenAnna: that's great.  can I claim a fetus as a tax deduction then?18:35
BotenAnnawell not now youcan't!18:35
nhainesCommunists!18:36
BotenAnnafilthy satan liberals say that a baby has to be "born" :rolls eyes:18:36
nhainesI liked the part where it would make IVF murder.18:37
BotenAnnain all fairness, for the horrific things that would cause, there could be some really fun trolling18:37
BotenAnna20.25 year olds demanding alcohol and the like18:37
nhaines17.25 year olds voting.18:37
BotenAnnaexactly18:37
Faqtotumi would have voted for perot18:43
MarkDudeAnyone in Bay Area feel like being part of a zombie comic book photoshoot on Sat?19:09
MarkDudeWe have a makeup artist already, and the rest of the cast19:09
MarkDudeMeeting at salon in WC, then to Oakland, and then Lake Merrit19:10
nhainesHow did my server not have ntpd installed?  Fixing now.19:11
nhainesWell, 150 seconds isn't bad.19:15
dragonMarkDude: didn't know lake merrit was on the plan.20:29
dragonWhat IS the plan!?20:30
MarkDudeWell those getting makeup meet up in WC20:31
MarkDudeAt Belle's studio20:31
MarkDudeStacy and Lyz are getting regular makeup done at 10-1120:31
MarkDudethen we are having maybe 3 zombies done20:32
dragonI'm bringing an extra zombie.20:32
dragonJust in case.20:32
MarkDudeNo Nixie for this shoot20:32
MarkDudeCool20:32
dragonYeah, Nixie is a busy chick.20:32
MarkDudeShe is closing her salon until 1pm20:32
pleia2there is another Lyz?20:32
MarkDudeOoops, yes, not the Princess20:32
MarkDudeAlthough pleia2 would make for awesome zombie.... Idk that is a project that you would be interested in :D20:37
MarkDudedragon, maybe Sam wants to be standby zombie?20:38
MarkDudeStacy already asked a few people in local bands to join20:38
MarkDudeNot sure on responses yet20:38
pleia2not really my scene :) (even if I did have the time, which I don't)20:39
pleia2am finally home this weekend (for once!), and I'm on call20:39
dragonMarkDude: that's be a good idea.20:41
dragonAnd that's the extra zombie I was referring to. :P20:41
dragonBut makeup. How'd that work?20:41
dragonI can't really be there before 1:30pm.20:41
Faqtotumlovely, someone's using the xmpp gateway20:46
dragonCougarswiss: Welcome to Ubuntu California LoCo.20:49
CougarswissThank you dragon.20:50
dragonFaqtotum: easier than setting up an IRC client, I'd say.20:50
Faqtotumi typically use pidgin for xmpp, so it's the same to me20:51
dragonI wonder if this works: http://www.eagull.net/embed/ubuntu-us-ca-offtopic%irc.freenode.net@irc.talkr.im20:53
dragonNot on my network. My company restricts outgoing non-standard ports.20:53
dragonAnd this uses 8080.20:53
Faqtotumi get a blank page20:57
dragonTo start with?20:58
Faqtotumno, after speaking a nick20:58
Faqtotumi said "ubuntu" and the speech recognition rendered it as "ubaldo"20:59
dragonokay, so irc.talkr.im doesn't like clients authenticated by SASL-Anon.20:59
dragonhahah20:59
dragonI hope you're pronouncing all the U's the same way.20:59
dragonand yeah, need to tweak this a bit more before it starts to support IRC.21:00
dragonThat'd be like creating mibbit, then.21:00
Faqtotummibbit is banned on freenode after severe abuses, mostly by one very bored british teenager21:01
dragonlol. I knew it was banned, but didn't know that it was one kid's job.21:11
dragonMibbit was certainly doing it wrong.21:11
Faqtotumhe wasn't an official reason, but it was a widely believed rumor at the time, for good reason21:16
dragonYeah. They should just have made the IP addresses available.21:18
dragonOh, talkr.im is doing it wrong too.21:20
dragonSo one talkr.im user can spam and get the gateway blocked.21:20
dragonBut not as wrong as mibbit. Gotta admin.21:20
dragons/in/it/21:20
Faqtotummibbit always showed the ip address and still does21:33
Faqtotumtalkr.im is already banned in a number of channels21:34
dragonNo surprise.21:35
dragonand if mibbit showed IP, why did it go down?21:35
Faqtotumappeared punitive to me21:37
pleia2by default it showed the IP in a /whois, the ircd had to be patched for it to show as a proper hostname, either way it was very easy to just block mibbit because of all the abuse21:37
pleia2we haven't blocked it entirely on another network I help manage, but it certainly is widely abused there too so we have to keep a close eye on it21:38
Faqtotummore and more networks are blocking mibbit now21:40
Faqtotumbut that's much more recent21:40
pleia2we blocked them before freenode, but then loosened our policy21:41
pleia2our network only has about 3k users though21:41
BotenAnnait's unfortunate because mibbit is pretty useful21:50
BotenAnnai run a small irc server mainly for friends so i don't have more than one serious abuse attempt in history, and none with mibbit21:50
BotenAnnabut i see how it becomes A Problem when you're bigger =\21:50
Faqtotumfreenode is big.21:52
Faqtotumlilo got a lot of flack, but i never did get how he managed to manage it all21:53
dragonah, makes sense.21:56
MarkDudedragon, You cant be earlier than 12:00?22:13
MarkDudeWe have plenty of people without makeup meeting at Lake Merit - her shop is closing for this, and will re-open at 1 pm22:14
dragonMarkDude: gotta be elsewhere 10am-noon.22:14
dragonI'd have to cancel that.22:14
MarkDudek22:15
MarkDudeWell depends on if stacy can find another zombie22:15
MarkDudewe have more townsfolk then zombies now22:15
MarkDudelike a horde of 2 zombies is NOT a horde, at least 3 is22:16
dragonyep.22:16
dragoncould you invite Cougarswiss (Sam) to the event btw?22:16
CougarswissWait, what's going on?22:18
dragonCougarswiss: talking about the upcoming photoshoot.22:18
CougarswissOkay.22:19
BotenAnna21:53 < Faqtotum> lilo got a lot of flack, but i never did get how he managed to manage it all22:27
BotenAnnai cant speak for any specific drama here22:27
BotenAnnabut i can say this: having been in charge of things wherein it is smaller but very drama-y, I have a decent amount of respect for people who do their best to corral large oss groups because they are also very drama-y22:28
BotenAnnaand with oss it's even worse than just a group of friends, as they're often more sophisticated in using technical measures to poorly advocate for what they want and you have to deal with THAT too :(22:30
dragonInteresting.22:31
BotenAnnafor any familiar with the bear gryllis meme "welp, i am mad about punctuation before my name in an irc chatroom, better drink my own pi--i mean ddos"22:32
FaqtotumBotenAnna: very very true22:55
BotenAnnaahahahahahaha, best daily wtf in a while http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Truth-Enough.aspx23:55

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