[00:42] <snap-l> Howdy
[00:45] <rick_h> CHC party, well pre party
[04:54] <rick_h> who! jsivak is here
[05:30] <rick_h> ooh, think I cracked the code, much nicer code now
[05:52] <rick_h> Blazeix: _ = Y.Lang.substitute seems to be a decent compromise for me
[05:52] <rick_h> _("I wish I had some {sweet}", {'sweet': 'pie'});
[05:57] <rick_h> Blazeix: snap-l http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920020530.do
[06:05] <Blazeix> rick_h: cool. the author of that was the guy who gave the talk at 1devday detroit
[06:06] <Blazeix> cool about the Y.Lang.substitute. named parameters formatting functions > positional parameter formatting functions
[06:07] <rick_h> yea, was checking out the upcoming books on oerilly and saw that :)
[06:07] <rick_h> some good stuff coming up
[06:07] <rick_h> Python cookbook update, advanced couchdb, and an html5 mobile book that might be good
[06:07] <Blazeix> nice
[12:43] <snap-l> rick_h: Did you see O'Reilly's DotD?
[12:43] <snap-l> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596802301.do
[14:01] <brousch> it's quiet in here. too quiet
[14:02] <snap-l> Shhh, we're hunting rabbits
[14:14] <dzho> huhuhuhu
[14:14] <dzho> also, snap-l ITYM "wabbits"
[14:16] <dzho> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ_C6zpyzKk&feature=related <- snap-l, I trust you've heard this?
[14:20] <snap-l> Yes, yes I have. :)
[14:20] <snap-l> Thank you, though
[14:28] <dzho> oh, good
[14:28] <dzho> np
[14:29] <dzho> took me a while to understand "gweam of a bwade"
[14:35] <jjesse__> morning kids
[14:35] <snap-l> Morning, pa pa
[14:36] <jjesse> :)
[14:37] <brousch> xoom in woot-off for $330
[14:37] <snap-l> That's $330 more than I'm willing to pay for an Android Tablet at the moment.
[14:37] <brousch> ouch
[14:37] <brousch> supposed to get iccream sandwich
[14:38] <dzho> nook tablet, yo
[14:39] <brousch> nook color r0x
[14:39] <brousch> but no camera, gps, mic, vibrator
[14:40] <snap-l> no vibrator, no deal.
[14:40] <snap-l> erm.
[14:42] <brousch> i know what you like, which is why i mention it
[14:42]  * dzho is getting acclimated to the 7" Galaxy Tab
[14:43] <brousch> i love 7 inchers
[14:43] <brousch> 10 is too hard to handle
[14:45] <dzho> doesn't fit in your, uh, pockets
[14:45] <snap-l> Time to gutter: 6m
[14:45] <brousch> what gutter?
[14:45] <snap-l> Oh, heck, I'm being generous today
[14:46] <dzho> time to mock indignation, 30s
[14:46] <snap-l> time to gutter: 3m
[14:46] <snap-l> Still not a record, but A+ for effort.
[14:46] <dzho> heh
[15:12] <rick_h> snap-l: thanks, yea tempted, but I've got 4 different books in the last week
[15:12] <rick_h> time to put a halt order into effect
[15:13] <brousch> rick_h: geez, i thought you'd read them all already
[15:19] <snap-l> rick_h: I even did a survey for packt and got a 40% off coupon
[15:19] <snap-l> they're looking to make more compelling reasons for people to pay for their stupid Safari-alike
[15:20] <snap-l> Settled on the Node.js web development book
[15:20] <rick_h> cool
[15:20] <snap-l> since the rest of the offerings that I was interested either had bad reviews, or no review.s
[15:20] <rick_h> heh, should have asked. I could give you a review of a few I'm sure
[15:20] <snap-l> Panda 3D? :)
[15:20] <snap-l> Numpy 1.5?
[15:20] <rick_h> umm, not that one
[15:20] <rick_h> and I'd say skip numpy for now :P
[15:21] <snap-l> heh. ;)
[15:21] <snap-l> Considering I have matplotlib or Python Developers, I'm good
[15:22] <snap-l> The other one was Python3 Web Development, which had a healthy 1.5 stars on Amazon.
[15:22] <rick_h> yea, that one isn't good
[15:23] <snap-l> And the node.js one is short, so it probably omits the obligatory "here's a chapter on why you should be using version control"
[15:23] <rick_h> which one is it?
[15:23] <rick_h> I think I might have it
[15:24] <snap-l> Node Web Development
[15:24] <rick_h> oh, nope, not one of the two node books I have
[15:24] <snap-l> Yeah, it's pretty basic
[15:25] <snap-l> 6 chapters
[15:25] <rick_h> just be aware that node 0.6 just released this week
[15:25] <rick_h> so if you hit the web, you'll start to see some differences
[15:26] <snap-l> echo 'export PATH=$HOME/node/0.4.8/bin:${PATH}' >>~/.bashrc
[15:26] <snap-l> (from the book)
[15:26] <rick_h> lol
[15:26] <snap-l> so I think that's not the biggest issue. ;)
[15:26] <rick_h> I just meant as far as the default libraries might have some subtle differences
[15:26] <rick_h> 0.6 adds windows support
[15:27] <snap-l> Jeez, the version I have on this machine is 0.2.6
[15:27] <rick_h> so not sure how much of the default libraries needed to be adapted
[15:31] <snap-l> Yeah, I'll ask questions if I run into anything
[15:41] <jrwren> cursed GPL. i'm shipping software now, so I have to send source or remove the link.
[15:41] <jrwren> i removed teh link.
[15:46] <snap-l> ?
[16:15] <dzho> jrwren: you have to offer to send source
[16:15] <dzho> big difference
[16:16] <dzho> also, iirc, you only have to make your own offer if it's a commercial venture.  If it's not, then you can just pass along the offer you got from upstream for any code that's not already yours to do with as you please.
[16:30] <ColonelPanic001> rick_h: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596802301.do
[16:31] <brousch> heh
[17:02]  * ColonelPanic001 smells a rat
[17:22] <rick_h> ColonelPanic001: yea, sometimes I think they have someone listening in my house
[17:34] <ColonelPanic001> put that to good use
[18:30] <jrwren> dzho: i just removed teh GPL dependency for the version of software that is leaving the org.
[18:30]  * dzho nods
[18:30] <dzho> did you find more permissively licensed stuff, or did you re-invent the wheel?
[18:32] <snap-l> jrwren: That's too bad
[18:33] <greg-g> I thought you would appreciate this, snap-l : http://bulkhomeopathy.com/
[18:34] <brousch> hay, i just retweeted that!
[18:34] <brousch> greg-g: you must also follow bad astronomer?
[18:35] <greg-g> oh, maybe I saw it from you, brousch :)
[18:35]  * krondor loves bad astronomer!
[18:35] <snap-l> greg-g: That's awesome. ;)
[18:35] <greg-g> credit to brousch
[18:36] <brousch> bah, that's not as cool
[18:36] <snap-l> yesterday I said that I was so much of a Euro-mutt as to be almost homeopathic. ;)
[19:54] <jrwren> neither.
[19:54] <jrwren> this is a fork of an internal-only existing tool.
[19:55] <jrwren> the fork doesn't use the gpl-dep, but the main tool does.
[19:55] <jrwren> so some #ifdef to make a different tool build that doesn't have the dep, and I ship that.
[20:08] <snap-l> http://decafbad.net/2011/11/10/techweb-and-information-week-keeping-the-spam-alive/
[20:09] <ColonelPanic001> spammer
[20:48] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IedAaxFEF8Y <- We need more Limbomaniacs. (Sorta NSFW)
[20:48] <snap-l> and heavily edited, unfortunately.
[20:54] <mydogsnameisrudy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llFJ-MwwMck&feature=fvwrel  oldsKool is better
[21:02] <snap-l> mydogsnameisrudy: More my speed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEzuxkkGyWQ
[21:11] <krondor> so is irssi still the console irc hotness?
[21:13] <_stink_> i use it
[21:13] <nixternal> i just fired it up actually. been away for a while :)
[21:14] <brousch> snow is sticking here
[21:14] <nixternal> snow lasted all but 5 minutes here :/  i wanted more so i can go ride the new cross bike in it
[21:14] <krondor> eww snow just in time for my yearly pilgrimage to s/drink beer/kill deer/
[21:15] <nixternal> i haven't been behind a bow in a few years. i should have gotten everything together this year and headed to sw mich to do some hunting
[21:16] <krondor> I don't actually hunt, that's a lot like work.  I do pretend to though.
[21:20] <mydogsnameisrudy> dont come the the U.P. we got no deer left eastern u.p. anyway
[21:20] <krondor> yeah it's funny feels like all the hunters go north and the deer populatio nin southern MI is exploding
[21:20] <krondor> eww typing
[21:21] <nixternal> they are actually hunting deer in the forest preserves here in chicago to help with the massive over population that is going on
[21:21] <mydogsnameisrudy> im back to trapping lots of coyotes
[21:22] <brousch> http://ow.ly/i/l0ju
[21:23] <mydogsnameisrudy> no snow here were is this at?
[21:24] <brousch> grand rapids
[21:27] <mydogsnameisrudy> hmmm why is my firefox.bin not closing ...
[21:29] <brousch> because it feels you are not done
[21:30] <mydogsnameisrudy> working now but firefox wouldnt start till i killed it
[21:30] <_stink_> surf more
[21:30] <brousch> firefox won't shut down until you've reached the end of the Internet
[21:31] <mydogsnameisrudy> did that so im confused
[21:31] <mydogsnameisrudy> guess ill start over
[21:32] <mydogsnameisrudy> opens another miller and goes back to dos 3.0
[21:42] <mydogsnameisrudy> snap-l,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9DVKm7a254&feature=feedrec_grec_index
[22:02] <snap-l> mydogsnameisrudy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_tSyJBsRQ
[22:04] <mydogsnameisrudy> lol headbanging not for me
[22:09] <snap-l> mydogsnameisrudy: Try this on for size, then. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVo_qHUqhls