[00:00] <AndrewEMT> Anyone able to tell me how to switch the repository to Oneric to get Steel Storm operating?
[00:00] <Jonii> So, I'll ask again: What's going on? Is Ubuntu simply wildly inferior compared to Windows in terms of energy comsumption, or is there something I could do to even this out?
[00:01] <willwork4foo> does anyone know how to get sound working over an HDMI link with Ubuntu 11.10 amd64>
[00:01] <willwork4foo> Google is not being all that helpful
[00:01] <SIFTU> Jonii: is it a new laptop?
[00:02] <AndrewEMT> I'm guessing silence means no one knows...
[00:04] <AndrewEMT> Seeing as how I've been all over Google to try to figure out how to switch a dang repository which happens to be a "commercial" one and there's nothing on google, that left this as my last option... anyone at all know how to fix this, its an actual bug that can be fixed by switching a repository is all... If someone cna tell me how to do it, I'll be all set
[00:04] <willwork4foo> yeah, I get that silence a lot anders_office
[00:04] <newb> Hello! My halt button desapeared from my KDE menu, and if I put, wih root, at terminal "halt", my system freezes at halt screen :-S
[00:04] <willwork4foo> woops
[00:04] <willwork4foo> a
[00:04] <willwork4foo> AndrewEMT:
[00:04] <dr_willis> havent tried xbmc auto ligin yet. but you could put xbmc in the autostart folder im guessing
[00:05] <willwork4foo> dr_willis: yeah I could, but that kind of defeats the point - I'm trying to get XBMC to load on it's own as a standalone
[00:05] <AndrewEMT> I feel for ya willwork4foo
[00:05] <willwork4foo> in order to waste minimal resources
[00:05] <dr_willis> newb:  sure you dont want shutdown, to power off.
[00:06] <willwork4foo> if I let my system load unity / whatever, THEN load XBMC - total waste of resources. And this box is an Atom-based 2GB RAM system that I want to put behind my TV
[00:06] <newb> dr_willis: ah, yes! thanks
[00:06] <willwork4foo> I'm installing gnome now so that I can use gdmsetup - perhaps that'll fix it!!!
[00:06] <newb> dr_willis: I want poweroff my machine
[00:06] <willwork4foo> Other question I've got - does anyone know how to get sound working properly over an HDMI link with Ubuntu?
[00:07] <dr_willis> willwork4foo:  i can test it later. you could see if starting via startx gives errors.
[00:07] <dr_willis> or see if it works with gdm instead of lightdm
[00:07] <wunderkin> hello, anyone from canonical here? i work for rightscale and we need a set of aki+ari in the new aws region to support our platform
[00:08] <willwork4foo> dr_willis: good tip, I'm switching to gdm and seeing if that works.
[00:08] <rofra__> ciao
[00:08] <AndrewEMT> nevermind, I figured it'd be a simple answer, nice how people just get ignored in here... Guess Ubuntu isn't really for the masses after all, maybe back to Windows for me. I see what my friends were talking about about these rooms and the rudeness!
[00:09] <dr_willis> willwork4foo: you could setup a lighter desktop if your own to just run xbmc also.
[00:09] <willwork4foo> dr_willis: how?
[00:09] <conntrack> Is it possible to send packets with non-ascii glyphs?
[00:09] <Cyberspaceloa> lol @ willwork4foo, nice handle
[00:09] <willwork4foo> I've been trying to work that one out
[00:09] <willwork4foo> thanks Cyberspaceloa
[00:09] <scorinitron> how can I reset my password for freenode?
[00:10] <jewthulhu> hey
[00:10] <scorinitron> I forgot it XD
[00:10] <jewthulhu> whats a good cli irc client?
[00:10] <scorinitron> xchat
[00:10] <jewthulhu> I'm using xchat right now, is there a cli version of it?
[00:10] <Abisu> happy to tell you ubuntu has now successfully running on all our servers running on the island supporting all communication of the island
[00:10] <dr_willis> !patience
[00:10] <dr_willis> willwork4foo:  isstall somthing like opennox and configure it
[00:10] <nathan_> Hi
[00:10] <scorinitron> what's a cli <<I'm new
[00:10] <jewthulhu> hey
[00:10] <Abisu> the hope is to spread it in closer islands
[00:10] <jewthulhu> command line input
[00:10] <jewthulhu> the terminal
[00:11] <Guest97035> asdjf;asdlkj f'asfjasd;lfdjf a;skdfjaskld;
[00:11] <willwork4foo> I'm going to see if I can get it working just using my current install first
[00:11] <Guest97035> ds;fjasd;fj sad;fjsdfjaskldfjlask;d fjkdslfjaksldfjsdjfsadjfasdjfsa;dfj;sdl
[00:11] <Guest97035> dskfjas'dfja
[00:11] <Guest97035> s
[00:11] <Guest97035> asdfjsdfjasdlk;fjsadklf;jasdkfjslkdfjas
[00:11] <FloodBot1> Guest97035: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <willwork4foo> wtf?
[00:11] <Guest97035> dsklf;jsdl;fkjsdfjsdkfjsadlfj;sdfjk;lads
[00:11] <jewthulhu> someone boot guest
[00:11] <scorinitron> oh
[00:11] <jewthulhu> there we go
[00:11] <dr_willis> jewthulhu: i use weechat these days
[00:11] <Cyberspaceloa> scorinitron: CLI == command line interface
[00:11] <scorinitron> cool
[00:11] <Guest97035> hi guys
[00:11] <scorinitron> Guys I forgot my freenode password
[00:11] <Guest97035> who was flooding the room
[00:11] <scorinitron> how would I go about reseting it?
[00:11] <OerHeks> scorinitron, ask in #Freenode ?
[00:11] <Guest97035> my computer got hacked
[00:12] <scorinitron> yeah
[00:12] <Guest97035> added a firewall sorry
[00:12] <willwork4foo> aha - http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMCbuntu
[00:12] <dr_willis> scorinitron:  ask in #freenode
[00:12] <willwork4foo> I shall try this if my current efforts fail.
[00:12] <iannis> hello
[00:12] <scorinitron> duh XD
[00:12] <ProxXy> Ubunutu wont play a video file for me in "movie player", how do i download a codec to solve this?
[00:12] <jewthulhu> download vlc
[00:12] <Cyberspaceloa> jewthulu: I think irssi is a popular cli irc client
[00:12] <jewthulhu> it has all the codecs preinstalled
[00:12] <jewthulhu> thank you cyber
[00:12] <willwork4foo> ProxXy: sudo apt-get install vlc ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:12] <iannis> anarchie
[00:13] <conntrack> ༗
[00:13] <willwork4foo> ProxXy: you is welcome. :-)
[00:13] <platzhirsch> How do you start multiple processes of a program binded in the jumper menu with Unity these days? right clicking and selecting it again does not work
[00:13] <jewthulhu> exit
[00:14] <Guest97035> Hi guys go to #nathanlive its so cool
[00:14] <shintaku> i can't get ircd-hybrid to compile from the source package on x86_64.  i get make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libpcre.a', needed by `ircd'.  Stop.
[00:14] <pangolin> Guest97035: don't advertise in here.
[00:14] <Cyberspaceloa> heh
[00:14] <ProxXy> willwork4foo: google gave me that as well...what does it mean? where do i type that? (i havent used ubuntu before)
[00:14] <shintaku> i tried getlibs, but it didn't seem to make a difference
[00:14] <shintaku> i also found this:  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/linux.debian.bugs.rc/rPjyYRk17LA/v6bMvkDEKZwJ
[00:15] <willwork4foo> ProxXy: click on the Ubuntu logo top left, type "term" in the box that comes up, launch the "terminal" program
[00:15] <willwork4foo> then copy & paste everything from the "sudo" forward: sudo apt-get install vlc ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:15] <Guest97035> what does a firewall do
[00:15] <willwork4foo> it will ask for your password, then after a moment ask you if you want to continue
[00:16] <dr_willis> or use the software center icon ProxXy  and search and install the packages
[00:16] <willwork4foo> dr_willis: bah, new-fangled approach :-)
[00:16] <Guest97035> go to nathanlive.com
[00:16] <willwork4foo> bye bye Guest<blah>
[00:16] <dr_willis> willwork4foo:  and i dont think vlc uses the codeca. :-)
[00:16] <shintaku> and this:  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640559
[00:16] <ProxXy> willwork4foo: what language is that you are using to do that?
[00:17] <willwork4foo> ProxXy: um….. not a language? that's apt. Where all this loveliness came from in the first place.
[00:17] <willwork4foo> just use the software centre
[00:17] <shintaku> how do i get 2-6.3.  i seem to get 2-6.2
[00:17] <Guest97035> have you ever heard of cloudflare
[00:18] <Guest97035> hi guys
[00:18] <Guest97035> fkjl;asdflk;ajsdflk;as
[00:18] <Guest97035> sdkj;lfajs dfkladsj'fa
[00:18] <Guest97035> asd kjlfasdj'df]sa
[00:18] <Guest97035> d\
[00:18] <FloodBot1> Guest97035: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <Guest97035> k dsk;fjas;ldfjas
[00:18] <Guest97035> df
[00:19] <ProxXy> thanks guys
[00:20] <Cyberspaceloa> ProxXy: it's really good to learn the terminal
[00:20] <Cyberspaceloa> many problems are much easier to fix with a little cli knowledge
[00:21] <Jonii> SIFTU: that kinda depends on your definition of "new"
[00:21] <dr_willis> easier to give cli answers on irc also
[00:21] <bobweaver> Hi there as some of you know I am working on a backup script. And I think I allmost got it down. The last thing that I am trying to do. Is name the folder that gets moved by rsync to year, month ,date, hour, and min . I have been testing some commands out on my machine ,and cant seem to get it working. I am doing something wrong. Here is test : cp -r test/ ~/`date +%Y%m%d%H%M_backup this just hangs
[00:22] <dr_willis> !manual
[00:22] <SIFTU> Jonii: oh I was wondering if it had hybrid graphics, which will chew batter unless you shut one down
[00:23] <lucas-arg> any one here knows how to make an usb tv stick decoder work???
[00:23] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  did you miss a ' in your paste ? a back quote
[00:24] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  use of $(command) is getting preferred these days also
[00:24] <ProxXy> Cyberspaceloa: i need to know the very basics of ubunut, so far all i know is that its based on an OS called linux, thats all.
[00:24] <sven_oostenbrink> Sh3r1ff: tried /etc/init.d/postresql start (should be same as service postgresql start) and got same result, nothing..
[00:24] <dr_willis> lucas-arg:  depwnds on the exact chipset its useing
[00:25] <sven_oostenbrink> anyone who might know why postgre may not start up?
[00:25] <lucas-arg> dr_willis, how do i know that?
[00:25] <sven_oostenbrink> postgresql on ubuntu, that is
[00:25] <dr_willis> ProxXy: time to do some reading looks like.
[00:26] <MonkeyDust> ProxXy: your a win user?
[00:26] <MonkeyDust> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[00:26] <dr_willis> lucas-arg:  lsusb and lspci commands are normally ysed for that info
[00:26] <sven_oostenbrink> service postgresql status also does not give anything at all
[00:27] <dr_willis> bbl. got a job...
[00:27] <lucas-arg> dr_willis, Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1b80:a41c Afatech i think this is the one...
[00:27] <bonhoffer> this is so petty -- but how do i get the icon to show up when I switch via option + tab
[00:28] <bonhoffer> i get a big question mark now in 11.10
[00:28] <Guest73878> I have a graphics card problem when I boot that leaves me with a black screen. I booted in limited graphics mode but can not reset graphics setting to default. help?
[00:29] <willwork4foo> OK, so that didn't work. Now going to try installing Ubuntu Server (without any X installed then) and going thru the XBMCbuntu guide
[00:29] <Cyberspaceloa> Guest73878: What is the name of the graphics card you have?
[00:29] <bobweaver> dr_willis:  THANKS !!
[00:29] <Guest73878> Radeon HD 5670
[00:30] <Guest73878> It was working fine until I flipped the display output and rebooted.
[00:31] <Guest73878> I should say rotated
[00:31] <bonhoffer> i disabled ssh password access, but still connect by public key -- how do i re-enable
[00:32] <Cyberspaceloa> Guest73878: here is a thread that seems relevant - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419962
[00:34] <wbBlueDave> Hi everyone... would you please help me with my sony vaio touchpad scrolling problem?
[00:34] <Cyberspaceloa> Guest73878: You should note that if you change any system setting file, you should *always* back up your old one
[00:35] <willwork4foo> so I've just successfully hosed my system :-) never mind, back to the drawing board
[00:35] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave: what is the problem exactly?
[00:35] <Guest73878> Does anyone know how to reset graphics settings from recovery mode?
[00:35] <Jonii> SIFTU: what's hybrid graphics
[00:35] <bobweaver> dr_willis:  what do you mean that use $(command)  ?  sorry I still rock the one slice toaster :>)
[00:36] <Jonii> And anyway, anyone know if it's a standard feature of Ubuntu to drain battery faster than Windows does, or if it's some combination of hardware + ubuntu that's mismatched, or if there's some software setting that causes power to drain out very quickly
[00:36] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, i have a vaio laptop VPCEH running Ubu 11.10 ... the touchpad scrolling doesn't work... and i've followed the tuts that i've found over the internet ... configurin xorg.conf... editing grub.conf ... everything... still no dice
[00:37] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave: if you're using the synaptics touchpad driver, I might be able to help a bit
[00:37] <SIFTU> Jonii: some laptops have 2 GPU's and can switch between them, one is low powered (intel), then the high powered one kicks in when intesive apps use it (nvidia/ati)
[00:37] <bobweaver> dr_willis:  you mean declaring a var     var=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M`         cp -r ~/test ~/$var      ?  ssorry I am real new to all this
[00:38] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, great... and yes, its an ALPS synaptic touchpad ... i'd be very happy if you'll help me
[00:38] <wbBlueDave> :)
[00:38] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave: well I'll do what I can
[00:39] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, thank you very much for the support : )
[00:39] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave: if you type this command into a terminal, you should get output if you're using the synaptics driver: synclient -l
[00:39] <Jonii> SIFTU: how do I know if I have anything like that?
[00:40] <Jonii> Acer Aspire 1410
[00:40] <SIFTU> Jonii: you probably dont if its not a gen 2 intel proc
[00:40] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, error message «Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?»
[00:40] <Cyberspaceloa> hmm, yeah I don't think we're using the same driver
[00:41] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, i'm not even sure if i have the drivers installed or not :/
[00:41] <Urchin> how does ubuntu handle virtual terminals?
[00:42] <iannis> can someone tel me where i can found a french irc channel for my first steps on linux and irc please
[00:42] <Cyberspaceloa> what is the deviant behavior that is happening?
[00:42] <vladimirsanchez> ??ppc
[00:43] <vladimirsanchez> Need help setting up WIFI (wlan0) on PowerBook G4
[00:44] <vladimirsanchez> I tried a few days ago but no one volunteered to help
[00:44] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, it simply do not work... the vertical touchpad scrolling...
[00:44] <wbBlueDave> the rest is ok... for a touchpad
[00:44] <wbBlueDave> it's just that the scroll doesn't work
[00:44] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave: I see, just a sec
[00:45] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: could ou please open your terminal and type in lspci -nn ;lsmod;rfkill list all                 and use paste.ubuntu.com
[00:45] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, try this command: dpkg --get-selections | grep xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[00:46] <Cyberspaceloa> that should tell you for sure if synaptics is installed
[00:46] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  please use paste.ubuntu.com to paste all that to us thaks
[00:46] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: brb thx
[00:46] <Urchin> I'm trying to find out how ubuntu draws fonts in the virtual terminal, so I can resize them
[00:46] <Cyberspaceloa> Urchin: which terminal?
[00:46] <Cyberspaceloa> gnome-terminal?
[00:46] <Urchin> tty
[00:46] <Cyberspaceloa> ahh
[00:46] <Cyberspaceloa> I've never even considered trying to change the font on a tty
[00:47] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, the output is «xserver-xorg-input-synaptics			install»
[00:47] <iNEEDhelp> i need help
[00:47] <qin> Urchin: man setupcon
[00:47] <Newrad2> so i am having monumental problems trying to boot ubuntu
[00:47] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave: okay, so it is installed...
[00:47] <wbBlueDave> yes... as it seems
[00:47] <Cyberspaceloa> k, hold on
[00:47] <iNEEDhelp> how do i solve (sin^-1(cos(11pi/9))) only using the unit circle
[00:48] <Urchin> qin: thanks
[00:48] <shintaku> stupid question.  what's the ubuntu equivalent to chkconfig myservice on.  that will boot up the service on reboot
[00:48] <Newrad2> anyone feel like helping me take on this bad boy?
[00:49] <iNEEDhelp> anyone know how to solve it?
[00:49] <Urchin> qin: it's documentation is not in the manpage
[00:50] <e20100633> shintaku: see update-rc.d
[00:50] <shintaku> thanks
[00:50] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, try this: synclient VertEdgeScroll=1
[00:51] <wbBlueDave> it gaves me the same error message that the drivers are not loaded :/
[00:51] <Newrad2> bueller?
[00:52] <Cyberspaceloa> weird, okay hold on
[00:52] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, by the way... the touchpad it's not figuring on the xinput list... nor Pointing Devices :/
[00:53] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:53] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, ubu 11.10
[00:54] <wbBlueDave> fresh upgraded 2 days ago
[00:54] <wbBlueDave> but the problem persisted since 10.10 :(
[00:54] <Cyberspaceloa> k, I'm hopeful we can solve this, give me a few minutes
[00:55] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, all the time in the world... really it's such a long time that i'm tryin to solve this :/
[00:55] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: sorry but Im transferring the file from the laptop through bluetooth since I dont have other wayt to gather the output... I let you know soon..
[00:56] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: take your time
[00:56] <vladimirsanchez> thx,
[00:58] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  I will be right back have to walk kernel (dog) :>)
[00:58] <vladimirsanchez> lol, nice
[01:01] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, have you encountered a solution that involved editing /etc/default/grub ?
[01:01] <wbBlueDave> yes ...
[01:01] <wbBlueDave> already done
[01:01] <wbBlueDave> adding LINUX_CMD_LINE
[01:01] <wbBlueDave> i8042.nopnp
[01:01] <wbBlueDave> or something like that
[01:02] <Cyberspaceloa> yep, okay just checking
[01:02] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: done! http://paste.ubuntu.com/733743/
[01:03] <padhu> I need an detailed sceen when booting. In grub 1, we edit the boot menu from quiet to noquiet. How can i made this in grub2 on ubuntu 10.04?
[01:05] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, i've also created a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ ... named psmouse.conf ... in this file i've added «options  psmouse proto=imps» ... nor this one worked
[01:05] <dr_willis> Granis:  /etc/default/grub
[01:05] <dr_willis> !grub2 | Granis
[01:06] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, did you read the thread where someone was booting into the wrong kernel?
[01:06] <histo> padhu: you can edit /etc/default/grub and the sudo update-grub
[01:06] <dr_willis> oops wrog nick. ;)
[01:06] <wbBlueDave> mmh no... i don't remember such thread
[01:06] <Cyberspaceloa> hold on
[01:07] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1265606
[01:07] <Cyberspaceloa> I think it is suspicious that you have synaptics installed through apt, but no output when you invoke the client
[01:08] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  sudo -i  then      echo b43 >> /etc/modules    then   exit   then reboot
[01:08] <Cyberspaceloa> we may be able to modprobe the driver in
[01:08] <vladimirsanchez> brb
[01:09]  * |izzie is totally unimpressed with unity and would like to use gnome.
[01:09] <|izzie> i'm jus' sayin'
[01:09] <Jonii> Hey, what do I do now that most guides on about ubuntu installation are severely outdated?
[01:09] <dr_willis> install gnome-shell and have at it |izzie
[01:10] <vladimirsanchez> what is b43?
[01:10] <bobweaver> !nounity | |izzie`
[01:10] <dr_willis> Jonii:  thats always the case.  lack of manpower
[01:10] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  b43 is the driver for your wireless card well kinda
[01:10] <|izzie> thanks dr willis!
[01:10] <vladimirsanchez> oh
[01:10] <|izzie> thanks, bobweaver!
[01:11] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  in linux it is called a modual and then there is firmware and that is what makes up a wireless driver well kinda
[01:11] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, i've read the thread and no... it's not my case :/  the unam -a shapes well the grub kernel options
[01:11] <dr_willis> i thought b43 has been replaced by the sta driver/module in most cases? or am i confused again
[01:12] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: np, rebooted already.... do i need 'iwconfig key <key>' ?  and that sort of stuff?
[01:12] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  no just select the wireless symbol
[01:12] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, by the way ... another thing (don't know if it's relevant or not) but «cat /dev/psaux» gives me a Permission Denied erro
[01:13] <bobweaver> dr_willis:  the wl does also work for some chipsets that use the b43 see http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[01:13] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: ok, it says "no network connection"
[01:13] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  the wireless symbol in the top right hand side ? in the panel ?
[01:14] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, right now I'm googling the error you get for synclient
[01:14] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: yep
[01:14] <Jonii> dr_willis: how about the suggestion of making a separate partition for root that's around 150mb in size?
[01:14] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  in terminal      iwlist scan
[01:14] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: didnt load?
[01:15] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  might need sudo iwlist scan
[01:15] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, do you have a section in your xorg.conf for the touchpad?
[01:15] <dr_willis> Jonii: 150mb for /? i make mine at least 10 to 30 gb.
[01:15] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  dont post that stuff
[01:15] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: iface doesnt support scanning
[01:15] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  dmesg | grep b43
[01:15] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, here it gets ugly ...
[01:15] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  any errors ?
[01:16] <vladimirsanchez> yep
[01:16] <bobweaver> firmware ?
[01:16] <|izzie> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:16] <|izzie> how GOOD it IS!
[01:16] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, before the upgrade i had my xorg.conf file ok ... now with ubu 11.10 it tells me that the drivers are controlled by HAL
[01:16] <vladimirsanchez> b43/ucode5.fw now found
[01:16] <dr_willis> |izzie:  huh?
[01:17] <Cyberspaceloa> ugh, okay
[01:17] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  this is old bug that I have seen
[01:17] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  hang on
[01:17] <vladimirsanchez> tried to download the file automatically but no network
[01:17] <Cyberspaceloa> they're making too many changes all at once
[01:17] <|izzie> dr_willis, i'm wearing gnome
[01:17] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: nice. thx a lot... this was my last chance
[01:17] <|izzie> *prance* can't you tell???
[01:17] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, the second ugly thing is that i've tryed to configure the touchpad in the xorg.conf file ... boot after rebooting ... X don't start anymore :/
[01:17] <dr_willis> |izzie:  unity uses gnome also....
[01:18] <|izzie> dr_willis, you just told me how to get it
[01:18] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: This machine is really nice but it's the end of the road for MacOS on it.
[01:18] <Alazair> so i just wanted to state that i finally completely dropped my samba shares in favor of instead running nfs on windows machines
[01:19] <Alazair> turns out its easier to make nfs work on windows then samba on linux
[01:19] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  mkdir Wireless
[01:19] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, did you back up your original xorg.conf?
[01:19] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: cd Wireless
[01:19] <dr_willis> Alazair:  oh how did you get nfs on windows?
[01:19] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, yes ... as always
[01:19] <vladimirsanchez> k
[01:19] <vladimirsanchez> done
[01:19] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  wget  http://www.omattos.com/sites/default...all-fw.tar_.gz
[01:19] <Milos_SD> Hello
[01:20] <Cyberspaceloa> okay, well
[01:20] <Alazair> theres a couple of diffrent ways dr_willis  one such way is nfsaxe it works with xp but windows seven has built in NFS capabilities
[01:20] <Cyberspaceloa> some random things I can think of are to try and reinstall the synaptics touchpad driver through apt
[01:20] <Cyberspaceloa> or use dpkg-reconfigure
[01:20] <vladimirsanchez> got 404
[01:20] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  sudo cp -r ~/Wireless/* /lib/firmware/
[01:20] <dr_willis> Alazair:  win7 has it on some versions or all?
[01:20] <Milos_SD> I have a problem with slow scrolling in Ubuntu 11.10 (it started after the upgrade from 11.04). I have IBM ThinkPad T42 laptop with ATI Mobility Radeon 9600
[01:20] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  404 ?
[01:20] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: yep
[01:20] <bobweaver> you are not connected to the net DOH
[01:20] <vladimirsanchez> sorry
[01:21] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, which one first ? :)
[01:21] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, I usually try dpkg-reconfigure first
[01:21] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  on computer that you are on get this file http://www.omattos.com/sites/default/files/b43-all-fw.tar_.gz
[01:21] <Cyberspaceloa> just a sec
[01:21] <Miclee> ollehh
[01:21] <Alazair> dr_willis: im unsure as i havent tested seven yet just was reading on the seven part im thinking of turning my xp laptop that i game on into seven im sure its probably premium or better
[01:21] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  put it on a cd or a usb drive and bring it over to the ubuntu box
[01:22] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, scuse me for my noobness.. dpkg-reconfigure «something» ?  or just dpkg-reconfigure ?
[01:22] <optimusM> how do i fix grub in lnux?
[01:22] <Miclee>  ‮ollehh‬
[01:22] <optimusM> linux
[01:22] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: np... tar -xvf ???
[01:22] <Alazair> dr_willis: here is a link to another way to get it working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310168
[01:22] <bobweaver> no
[01:22] <dr_willis> !grub2 |  optimusM
[01:22] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: np
[01:22] <vladimirsanchez> brb
[01:23] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[01:23] <Jonii> dr_willis: /root
[01:23] <optimusM> im using unbuntu 11.10
[01:23] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, on my way
[01:23] <shawn186> hello
[01:24] <shawn186> how come I can't get the nvidia driver packages?
[01:24] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, ok done but seemed like nothing happened
[01:24] <dr_willis> Jonii:  huh? / is different then /root. i dont see a need for /root/ on its own partition
[01:24] <luis_> shawn186: Which do you need?
[01:24] <Cyberspaceloa> try the synclient
[01:25] <Cyberspaceloa> synclient -l
[01:25] <shawn186> Nvidia geforce 7600 GS
[01:25] <Jonii> dr_willis: okay. That's kinda what I thought, but ubuntu installation guide for 11.10 recommends you to make your own partition for root
[01:25] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: BlueToothed it! :D
[01:25] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, same error ... drivers not loaded...
[01:25] <wbBlueDave> :(
[01:25] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: its in my home folder
[01:25] <dr_willis> Jonii:  sure its not a typo for /boot
[01:25] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: now put that .tar into the Wireless folder
[01:26] <Jonii> I have absolutely no idea :/
[01:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: the folder we just made
[01:26] <vladimirsanchez> done
[01:26] <shawn186> ?
[01:26] <dr_willis> Jonii:  or they mean /     not /root
[01:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  sudo cp -r ~/wireless/* /lib/firmware/
[01:26] <shawn186> louis_ ?
[01:26] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, you can try uninstalling and reinstalling with apt
[01:26] <luis_> shawn186: 32 or 64 bit?
[01:26] <shawn186> 32
[01:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  cd /lib/firmware
[01:27] <dr_willis> Jonii:  common setup    /boot   /   /home   and swap. 4 partitions
[01:27] <Cyberspaceloa> you'll most likely get the same results, but it might be worthwhile
[01:27] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: sudo -i
[01:27] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, ok ... what exactly should i reinstall? synaptic?
[01:27] <vladimirsanchez> k
[01:27] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  you are in firmware right ?>
[01:27] <vladimirsanchez> untar
[01:27] <vladimirsanchez> yep
[01:27] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: tar -xzf b43-all-fw.tar_.gz
[01:28] <luis_> shawn186: Here you go: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-285.05.09-driver.html
[01:28] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:28] <Jonii> dr_willis: oh, maybe I misunderstoof that, then
[01:28] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, the same package you used with dpkg-reinstall
[01:28] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, are you running unity?
[01:28] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, im running Gnome3 shell
[01:28] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  exit after "untared"
[01:28] <Cyberspaceloa> do you have gconf-editor available to you?
[01:28] <shawn186> how much is battlefield 3 going to be?
[01:29] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: reboot?
[01:29] <bobweaver> no
[01:29] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  sudo rmmod b43
[01:29] <luis_> shawn186: Is that what you needed?
[01:30] <shawn186> it wont open
[01:30] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: sudo modprobe  b43
[01:30] <shawn186> and gedit wont close
[01:30] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: should I cry?
[01:30] <optimusM> how do i fix the grub again?
[01:30] <shawn186> it downloaded
[01:30] <optimusM> what were those links
[01:30] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  you got wireless ?
[01:30] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: it said wireless was available..
[01:31] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  reboot
[01:31] <vladimirsanchez> let me check cause the icon seems still disables
[01:31] <shawn186> .run file?
[01:31] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, yes i do ... btw i've already reinstalled xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[01:31] <luis_> shawn186: open it in a terminal
[01:31] <star_> hi ,morning
[01:31] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I see my network?  :D
[01:31] <danielfeng> join #ubuntu
[01:31] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  \o/
[01:32] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, i've just* reinstalled
[01:32] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Are u human?
[01:32] <vladimirsanchez> lol
[01:32] <bobweaver> !thanks > vladimirsanchez
[01:32] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I have to save this session for future reference...
[01:32] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, are you getting any errors from synclient now?
[01:33] <wbBlueDave> same damn error Cyberspaceloa :(
[01:33] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  it is the firmware that gets hung up
[01:33] <shawn186> how do i open it luis_  ?
[01:33] <Cyberspaceloa> shoot
[01:33] <Cyberspaceloa> next tactic
[01:33] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  that is also patched for injection and monitor
[01:33] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Ubuntu should fix this...
[01:33] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, fire up gconf-editor
[01:34] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, :) i have both dconf/gconf editors
[01:34] <wbBlueDave> ok
[01:34] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: it would get tons more following if fixed...
[01:34] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  that is propratary software for you
[01:34] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: true
[01:34] <wbBlueDave> ok im ok Cyberspaceloa
[01:34] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, desktop->gnome->peripherals
[01:34] <wbBlueDave> im on
[01:34] <luis_> shawn186: go to the folder you downloaded it to and cd to that directory then type the file name exactly as it appears it should run
[01:34] <Cyberspaceloa> then touchpad
[01:34] <Cyberspaceloa> any settings you can see there?
[01:34] <wbBlueDave> ok im on
[01:35] <Cyberspaceloa> "horiz_scroll_enabled" is what mine says
[01:35] <wbBlueDave> mine not
[01:35] <Cyberspaceloa> no keys at all?
[01:35] <wolfmitchell> Ubuntu software center is not letting me install from a .deb file.....I click "Install" and the button lags a minute and resets.
[01:35] <wbBlueDave> yes eys there are keys ... but not the horizontal scrolling Cyberspaceloa
[01:36] <roter1337> Just use the command
[01:36] <Cyberspaceloa> are there any relevant keys, wbBlueDave?
[01:36] <roter1337> For installing worlfmichael
[01:36] <wolfmitchell> What command?
[01:36] <roter1337> sudo dpkg -i something.deb
[01:36] <wolfmitchell> I need to install from a .deb
[01:36] <roter1337> Ik, thats the command
[01:36] <luis_> shawn186: I forgot  type sh before the file
[01:36] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[01:36] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Words cannot express my gratitude... you're awesome and now made me continue enjoying my 8 year old powerbook now with Ubunty 10
[01:36] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, i see scroll method - edge scrolling which is good
[01:37] <Cyberspaceloa> does fiddling with the keys actually change the touchpad behavior?
[01:37] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: should I be concerned about upgrading to 11?
[01:37] <roter1337> Dont do it if you have slow comp
[01:37] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  No you did :>)  upgrading ? you might want to save that tar file.
[01:37] <wbBlueDave> what no Cyberspaceloa actualy not :/
[01:37] <luis_> shawn186: Here is an example:.... sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-285.05.09.run
[01:38] <vladimirsanchez> it
[01:38] <vladimirsanchez> its in my DropBox
[01:38] <vladimirsanchez> :D
[01:38] <Cyberspaceloa> dang it
[01:38] <roter1337> Is there any reliable way to convert a gpt partition disk to mbr?
[01:38] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: how did u figure the b43 file was missing, from the settings.txt ?
[01:39] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey guys, i need some help :( I am already compiled my own kernel. how do i get it to a livecd or something so that i can install it on another machine? ive spent almost 20 hours researching this and cant figure out how to do it. please help .
[01:40] <luis_> shawn186:  Did it work?
[01:41] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, do you think that a reboot may be necessary?
[01:41] <number19> hello, i'm trying to do a minimal install using the ubuntu 11.10 mini.iso, i;ve installed just fine via virtualbox but when i try to install to my laptop from my usb i can't seem to get the network working
[01:41] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, don't think so
[01:41] <Cyberspaceloa> I'm researching, I'll be back in a few seconds
[01:42] <wbBlueDave> ok  Cyberspaceloa
[01:42] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  wireless is kinda like this check to make sure hardware is seen and mods are working and up to date. if so look in dmesg | grep <wireless name>  if no error then search googlubuntu using the number from the lspci -nn  in your case lspci -nn | grep 14e4   do you see the part in red that is the main part that you want to look at . hopes this helps and enjoy :>)
[01:42] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: never mind... I appreciate your help. Truly. Now Updating my installation..
[01:42] <number19> i have an eht0 interface, i have tryed just hooking up the ethernet cable from my modem but that didn't work either
[01:42] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, have you tried modprobing any drivers for this problem?
[01:42] <OttifantSir> On a Dell Inspiron 1501, I get absolutely NO network at all. lspci shows NO network interfaces, and I've only managed to get wireless to say it is unclaimed after following the STA (No internet access) installation here: http://goo.gl/XtQeQ
[01:42] <wbBlueDave> no Cyberspaceloa  never tryed... and i don't even know how to do it
[01:42] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: :D Love you man!
[01:43] <vladimirsanchez> lol
[01:43] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, let me explain a bit
[01:43] <Cyberspaceloa> I'm sure you are familiar with the concept of a driver. Linux has the ability to plug or unplug in driver files during runtime in order to run various hardware
[01:44] <Cyberspaceloa> the modprobe command either loads or removes a driver file for you
[01:44] <number19> you don't have a true install from the mini.iso either so you don't have access to iwlist or iwconfig either
[01:44] <Cyberspaceloa> the lsmod command shows a list of all running drivers
[01:44] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: would you please repeat that last message so I can save it to my transcript?
[01:44] <number19> anyone have any advice?
[01:44] <vladimirsanchez> I accidentally closed my session...
[01:44] <HeTaL> Is there a way to browse my home folder from via http? I've never used httpd, but I want to know if it's plausible.
[01:44] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, try: lsmod | grep mouse
[01:45] <ber> what__
[01:45] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, ok then ... i think i did modprobed something
[01:45] <luis_> shawn186: Hows the progress?
[01:45] <wbBlueDave> i have psmouse on my lsmod output
[01:46] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey everyone. I think i have a better /easier idea. How do i change the default install filesystem for ubuntu iso?
[01:46] <Cyberspaceloa> do you remember what you used modprobe with?
[01:46] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, it's the file that i've created in /etc/modprobe.d/
[01:46] <wbBlueDave> yes
[01:46] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, options psmouse proto=imps
[01:46] <wbBlueDave> that's alla
[01:46] <Cyberspaceloa> ah
[01:46] <Cyberspaceloa> the command is different from that settings file
[01:46] <Cyberspaceloa> did you try: lsmod | grep mouse
[01:47] <Cyberspaceloa> oh yes, I see now
[01:47] <wbBlueDave> yes
[01:47] <number19> does anyone have any experience installing the ubuntu mini.iso or the server edition and configuring the network ? dhcpd doesn't seem to work for me
[01:47] <wbBlueDave> i get psmuse
[01:47] <number19> ?
[01:47] <Cyberspaceloa> k, hold on
[01:47] <wbBlueDave> and the id of the process
[01:47] <bobweaver> number19:  card is good and mods are loaded ?
[01:48] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, try: egrep -i 'synap|alps|etps' /proc/bus/input/devices
[01:48] <number19> i dunno if the mods are loaded, i can't find a wireless interface only the eth0, and yes the card is good
[01:48] <BaseBallBoy> Okay I just bought an Asus P5G41T-M LX motherboard, it has an atheros AR8131 on it but I cannot get it to work
[01:49] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, nothing hapopened
[01:49] <wbBlueDave> happened *
[01:49] <Cyberspaceloa> hmm
[01:49] <shawn186> how do I remove something in ubuntu?
[01:50] <bobweaver> number19:  could we see the out put of lspci -nn && lsmod  in paste.ubuntu.com please
[01:50] <szal> shawn186: define 'something'
[01:50] <Cyberspaceloa> what is the name of the settings file in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[01:50] <shawn186> any program
[01:50] <shawn186> why is their so little system settings
[01:50] <OttifantSir> I have NO network interfaces on a Dell Inspiron 1501. After following STA (No internet access) here: http://goo.gl/XtQeQ the wifi shows up after lspci, and lshw -C network says it's unclaimed. I would like to have both ethernet and wifi working, but ONE (pref. wifi) would be good...
[01:50] <shawn186> not even half of 10.10
[01:50] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, the name of the file is psmouse.conf
[01:51] <Cyberspaceloa> okay
[01:51] <Cyberspaceloa> wbBlueDave, this is about the last thing I know to try
[01:51] <Cyberspaceloa> it's advice from this page: http://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad
[01:51] <szal> shawn186: whatever you install programs with is as good for removing programs
[01:51] <wbBlueDave> i cross my fingers Cyberspaceloa
[01:51] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  do you have a picture phone with internet or some way to upload some commands ?
[01:51] <number19> at the moment i'm on my installed system, would it still be helpful? i can't try to boot from the usb and irc with no internet at the same time
[01:52] <shawn186> how do I remove NVIDIA X server?
[01:52] <Cyberspaceloa> we will try to remove the psmouse driver, send an option, and then see if it works properly
[01:52] <szal> shawn186: there is no such thing as 'NVIDIA X server'
[01:52] <bobweaver> number19:  do you have a picture phone with internet or some way to upload some commands ?
[01:52] <shawn186> yea there is
[01:52] <wbBlueDave> ok Cyberspaceloa im ready ! ... this is war!! :)
[01:52] <shawn186> I want to uninstall the app
[01:52] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: I'm on one of my other computers at the moment, so I guess, yes
[01:52] <Cyberspaceloa> hehe
[01:52] <szal> no, there isn't..  theres the X server, and there's the Nvidia driver, if you installed it
[01:53] <Cyberspaceloa> okay the first command is: sudo modprobe -r psmouse
[01:53] <number19> bobweaver: what do you mean?
[01:53] <Cyberspaceloa> the second command is: sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps
[01:53] <shawn186> ok.. I have a window open with the title NVIDIA X Server Settings
[01:53] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  please open terminal and type in           lspci -nn && lsmod     then somehow upload that so I can see thanks
[01:53] <number19> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733773/
[01:54] <wbBlueDave> ok Cyberspaceloa
[01:54] <wbBlueDave> done
[01:54] <number19> there is the lspci -nn output
[01:54] <Cyberspaceloa> did it halp?
[01:54] <szal> shawn186: that's the X server settings as set by the Nvidia driver
[01:54] <wbBlueDave> ehm no.. :( Cyberspaceloa
[01:54] <Cyberspaceloa> shoot
[01:54] <shawn186> how do I uninstall all nvidia drivers
[01:55] <shanekeene_> shawn186: i don't think you can remove that without removing the drivers also
[01:55] <Cyberspaceloa> that earlier command should have shown the name of the synaptics touchpad
[01:55] <number19> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733774/ there is the lsmod output
[01:55] <Cyberspaceloa> since yours didn't output anything, I have no idea
[01:55] <Cyberspaceloa> I'm kind of shocked it works at all
[01:55] <shawn186> that didn't really answer my question
[01:55] <szal> shawn186: open your favourite package management application, search for 'nvidia' & remove everything that shows as installed
[01:55] <shawn186> ah
[01:55] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Which parts are you interested in? It would take half the night writing down the entire output
[01:56] <newbie947> hi guys.  i have a blocked tcp connection from myself outgoing on port 8093.  i'm wondering what this is for?  is it anything necessary and if not how can i make it go away?
[01:56] <shawn186> is their one that comes default with ubuntu?
[01:56] <szal> one what?
[01:56] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, :( i'm shocked that it's so wierd
[01:56] <shawn186> what you just mentioned
[01:56] <Maxwell> Hello all
[01:56] <Cyberspaceloa> I guess sony likes to do things different than everyone else
[01:56] <shawn186> i smell a trace of short term loss
[01:56] <Cyberspaceloa> sry I couldn't help!
[01:56] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  try lspci -nn | grep Network
[01:56] <Cyberspaceloa> I feel like I learned a bit more
[01:57] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  1st please
[01:57] <bobweaver> number19:  lsmod please
[01:57] <Maxwell> My LAN connection just randomly stopped working an hour and a bit ago. The physical connection is fine. I now have it plugged into a laptop and it's working great. How do I fix this? Helllllllllp!
[01:57] <number19> bobweaver: i only have a busybox shell in the mini.iso install, i don't have access to the commands i'm used to having to configure networking
[01:57] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, thank you very very very much for the time and the constructive and interactive support !
[01:57] <number19> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733774/ there is the lsmod output
[01:57] <Maxwell> Running 11.10 with all the updates, gradually putting up with Unity.
[01:57] <szal> shawn186: if you're looking for a graphical one, most probably PackageKit or muon
[01:57] <Cyberspaceloa> np wbBlueDave, hopefully you have some extra research ideas. I hope you get it running soon
[01:57] <Maxwell> Any ideas?
[01:57] <bobweaver> number19:  ohh that is different
[01:58]  * szal uses aptitude almost exclusively
[01:58] <Maxwell> Even someone just pointing me in the direction of a really good troubleshooting guide for LAN internet connections would be great.
[01:58] <number19> yeah, its not an fully installed system, it downloads alot of the install from the net, the mini.iso is only 26mb
[01:58] <number19> its similar to the server edition
[01:58] <wbBlueDave> Cyberspaceloa, i hope that too :)
[01:58] <number19> my plan is just to install a minimal gnome shell enviroment of ubuntu
[01:58] <bobweaver> number19:  yeah I thought you where installed
[01:58] <benyu> well how to install snort on ubuntu 10.04 with mysql and apache?
[01:59] <shawn186> thank you szal
[01:59] <Maxwell> Hello?
[01:59] <Maxwell> Any ideas people?
[01:59] <benyu> anyone who can help me?
[01:59] <newbie947> hi guys.  i have a blocked tcp connection from myself outgoing on port 8093.  i'm wondering what this is for?  is it anything necessary and if not how can i make it go away?
[01:59] <bobweaver> number19:  md5sum is good ?
[01:59] <number19> nope, can't install without configuring the network first, i should be able to just plug up the ethernet cable from my modem to my computer and it should work because the eth0 interface is there
[01:59] <number19> but for some reason it doesn't
[01:59] <number19> bobweaver: yep
[02:00] <benyu> ;(
[02:00] <bobweaver> number19:  try to look for the mods and the firmware and see if they need to be added . also no error ?
[02:00] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: lsmod output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/733778/  lspci output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/733780/
[02:00] <shawn186> how do I close an x server?
[02:00] <number19> nope, no error
[02:01] <number19> i'm pretty sure they do because i can't find a wireless interface like wlan0
[02:01] <EvilResistance> number19:  type into the terminal iwconfig
[02:01] <upgrayeddd> Hi, I am considering buying a Kobo eReader, however I don't know how easy it'll be to sync with Ubuntu. I've done some searching, and their isn't a dedicated client yet, though it wouldn't be hard to make. I'm wondering if it'll function like a normal MP3 player though, where I can just drag files over in Nautilus or mv them in gnome-terminal
[02:01] <EvilResistance> number19:  does anything come up?
[02:01] <upgrayeddd> ~ereader
[02:01] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  sudo rmmod wl      then      sudo modprobe b43
[02:02] <number19> evilresistance, thats the fisrt thing i tryed but i only have a busybox shell its not a fully installed system yet so i don't have access to iwconfig
[02:02] <EvilResistance> upgrayeddd:  that wont help you - there's no bot factoid about ereaders
[02:02] <pepee> hi. no fglrx 8.902/catalyst 11.10 on oneiric?
[02:02] <nils_> what would be an accepted way to create the /run/lvm directory after booting? It's needed for clvm.
[02:02] <upgrayeddd> apparently EvilResistance
[02:03] <number19> bobweaver: even if i did figure out the firmware i needed i'm not sure i can put that on the usb along with the mini.iso
[02:03] <number19> *sigh* i just want a minimal install of ubuntu 11.10
[02:03] <bobweaver> number19:  bingo  I just had to do that with a old dell box
[02:03] <number19> sweet, so its possible
[02:03] <number19> well that gives me hope
[02:03] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Network Manager now says that the firmware is missing, instead of No Network. Still no network though. Restart the offending machine? Or restart the network?
[02:03] <upgrayeddd> http://www.dawning.ca/2010/kobo-ereader-unboxed-linux/ this helps
[02:04] <upgrayeddd> looks like it runs fine under wine with my distro version (10.04)
[02:05] <number19> bobweaver: how did you do it?
[02:05] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  please download  this file  http://www.omattos.com/sites/default/files/b43-all-fw.tar_.gz
[02:05] <bobweaver> number19:  It would not connect with out the e100 .dll   or something like that
[02:06] <bobweaver> so I moved it over
[02:06] <number19> word, now i need to figure out what firmware i need and drop it in an accessible folder on the usb
[02:06] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  after downloading file please move it over to your ubuntu box
[02:06] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Done. Now what?
[02:06] <bobweaver> OttifantSir: after downloading file please move it over to your ubuntu box
[02:07] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Yeah, already did that.
[02:07] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  cool
[02:08] <number19> bobweaver: how would i figure out what firmware i need, is there a site i can put my lspci or lsmod output and find out?
[02:08] <Newrad2> is there a way to launch a terminal from a lucid USB?
[02:08] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  in your home folder please make a dir called      Wireless and put the tar doc in there
[02:08] <number19> the same laptop i'm trying to get online has kubuntu on it and networking configured itself
[02:08] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: another one bites the dust :D Like me...
[02:08] <number19> i've also had the ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 full installs on them several times and networking sets itself up just fine
[02:09] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  same thing
[02:09] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: PPC?
[02:09] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: nope but same b43 mod needed
[02:09] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: The .gz-file is in "wireless" in my home folder
[02:09] <bobweaver> firware sorry
[02:10] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  sudo cp -r ~/wireless/* /lib/firmware/
[02:10] <Newrad2> i need to run a terminal from the usb without booting, i can do it with an edgy usb, but how do i do it with lucid?
[02:10] <Ibis> Is anyone by any chance having problems relating to this-> cyrus-sasl2,         a sasl thing. Which is giving me problems with postfix for my ubuntu server (11.10).
[02:10] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Done. After copying...?
[02:10] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  cd /lib/firmware/
[02:11] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: OK
[02:11] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  sudo -i
[02:11] <shadaloo> hey
[02:11] <shadaloo> just updated to onery
[02:11] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: OK
[02:11] <shadaloo> wtf is this mac like dock
[02:11] <bobweaver> OttifantSir: tar -xzf b43-all-fw.tar_.gz
[02:11] <shadaloo> how do I remove this shit
[02:12] <vladimirsanchez> lol
[02:12] <HardBoiledSoup> hey guys does anyone like techno?
[02:12] <shadaloo> no
[02:13] <shadaloo> one likes techno
[02:13] <shadaloo> alright
[02:13] <shadaloo> how do I remove this shitty dock
[02:13] <FloodBot1> shadaloo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:13] <shadaloo> seriously
[02:13] <shadaloo> who's idea was it to put this shitty dock, worst ubuntu idea in a long time
[02:13] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Did you root me with sudo -i? I ran the extraction and got an error "No such file or directory" and ls shows absolutely NO files
[02:13] <pangolin> !language | shadaloo
[02:13] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  ok
[02:13] <shadaloo> !retard | pangolin
[02:13] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  try
[02:13] <HardBoiledSoup> if you like techno you should watch this livestream http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/10-college-majors-lowest-unemployment-rates-163049193.html
[02:14] <bobweaver> OttifantSir: sudo cp -r ~/Wireless/* /lib/firmware/
[02:14] <number19> bobweaver: it looks like i need iwlagn firmware?
[02:14] <newbie947>  hi guys.  i have a blocked tcp connection from myself outgoing on port 8093.  i'm wondering what this is for?  is it anything necessary and if not how can i make it go away?
[02:14] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: I just needed to cd back into /lib/firmware. Extract worked then
[02:14] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  good
[02:15] <Newrad2> im really in a bind here, IS there a way to run a terminal off the lucid usb?
[02:15] <EvilResistance> Newrad2:  alt+f2, type in gnome-terminal
[02:15] <number19> does that sound right?
[02:15] <OerHeks> Newrad2, ctrl + alt +t
[02:15] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  now         sudo rmmod b43    then sudo modprobe b43   then   echo b43 >> /etc/moduals
[02:15] <Newrad2> the problem is i cant boot
[02:16] <bobweaver> OttifantSir: now sudo rmmod b43 then sudo modprobe b43 then echo b43 >> /etc/modules
[02:16] <Newrad2> my hdd is corrupt
[02:16] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  sorry about the spelling
[02:16] <bobweaver> number19:  I am going to look at that paste again
[02:16] <number19> alright, thanks
[02:16] <number19> i really do appreciate it
[02:17] <number19> i dunno if i have a modprobe command to install the thing though
[02:17] <number19> bah!
[02:17] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Why did I need to echo b43 into modules? I got networks after the modprobe. Just want to understand what I'm doing...
[02:17] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  that makes it so it starts on reboot
[02:18] <bobweaver> OttifantSir: ssb is lazy and not doing its job :>)
[02:18] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: let me know if you can follow up now that network is up..
[02:18] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: tried to update but nothing came down.
[02:19] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: I kinda figured that. Thanks for the help. Been trying to make this machine work for a long time, and either graphics problems or network problems have plagued it. Now it works again. Thank you.
[02:19] <bobweaver> OttifantSir:  np enjoy
[02:19] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: though I can ping all sites.
[02:19] <bobweaver> number19:  look at this please http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1766962.html
[02:19] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: firewall?
[02:20] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  what ?/
[02:20] <pepee> no fglrx 8.902/catalyst 11.10 in oneiric repos? why?
[02:21] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: Network is fine now.. but tried to apply updates and system failed to download...
[02:21] <xangua> !latest | pepee
[02:21] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: opened FF; went to google.com; timeout
[02:21] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: went to ubuntu.com; timeout...
[02:21] <toddnine> Hi guys.  When using Unity on 11.10, is there a way to bring all instances of windows to the foreground without the selection window after clicking the icon on the left?  I have about 4 terminal instances open, it's impossible to tell which one I want when using the unity window selection
[02:21] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: no clue what issue is now..
[02:22] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  umm...  you can not get to sites ?
[02:22] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: nope
[02:22] <bobweaver> are you on the box now ?
[02:22] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: yep
[02:22] <pepee> xangua, ubuntu was known for using its users as the driver betatesters
[02:22] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: netstat?
[02:23] <bobweaver> try
[02:23] <ygor> hello Guys. does any1 know a software to manage a small business like a restaurant?
[02:23] <newbie947> does anybody know whats up with port 8093?
[02:23] <dr_willis> toddnine:  i cheat and use 4 different terminal apps.  or use terminator and have 4 terms in 1 window.  not perfect butit works
[02:23] <OttifantSir> ygor: I've seen Lemon POS, but don't know it. We're not allowed to use it in our country because it's open source.
[02:23] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: lots of streams
[02:24] <najamsa> newbie947: can you try netstat -tp | grep 8093
[02:24] <toddnine> dr_willis:  Yeah, the problem is I'm managing a cluster.  So each terminal window has about 10 tabs in it, each one tailing logs for each role.  Cassandra, Jetty, Backend, Zookeeper etc.  I need both multiple windows and Tabs
[02:24] <optimusM> how do i fix bootmgr missing?
[02:24] <ygor> Ottifantsir: thanks buddy im gonna check this out.
[02:25] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: see lots of errors on wlan0 interface...
[02:25] <OttifantSir> ygor: From description it can be used for accounting, cash register, storage.
[02:25] <bobweaver> in dmesg ?
[02:25] <funnyfingers> I got an error on installation where a step failed: The failing step is: Select and install software.  I went to the shell but the installation shell is very limited and I would like to check the memory usage or maybe you can just tell me if 128 MB with no swap is too little...
[02:25] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez: in dmesg ?
[02:25] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver netstat
[02:25] <newbie947> najamsa: that doesn't show anything for me
[02:25] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: let me check
[02:26] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  dmesg | grep b43
[02:26] <dr_willis> toddnine:  with gnome-shell thinking design. you would put each on its iwn workspace. unity is not so organized in ways
[02:26] <newbie947> najamsa: it was a blocked connection not an open connection
[02:26] <delinquentme> im looking for a tool to convert .ogv videos
[02:26] <delinquentme> to something youtue usable
[02:26] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: no errors but warning about odl firmware
[02:26] <najamsa> newbie947: What abt sudo netstat -ap | grep 8093
[02:27] <toddnine> dr_willis: Agreed.  it has a lot of potential, but I use a Mac a lot at home.  It has a bit more work to do to be as functional.
[02:27] <bobweaver> delinquentme:  openshot ?
[02:27] <delinquentme> used this screen cap called " cheese " and this .ogv is the only file it write as
[02:27] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  that is fine
[02:27] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  try watch --interval=2 "sudo netstat -apn -l -A inet"
[02:27] <vladimirsanchez> k
[02:27] <newbie947> nothing
[02:27] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  dont post any of that PLEASE
[02:27] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: netstat shows 0 RECOK
[02:27] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  youtube can convert for you. or use arista perhaps
[02:28] <vladimirsanchez> and 0 sent ok
[02:28] <optimusM> i do i make a second partition primary
[02:28] <delinquentme> youtube killed the video
[02:29] <dr_willis> optimusM:  when you create a partition you set it primary or extended
[02:29] <OttifantSir> funnyfingers: I don't KNOW for certain that 128MB is too little, but I have machines with that little RAM, and I always make a swap partition of 1GB on those machines. Never failed me.
[02:30] <funnyfingers> OttifantSir - it is just how I am capturing it I didn't want a swap partition.
[02:30] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  wireless works on other computers just fine ?
[02:30] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: left it running while reloading the start.ubuntu.com page and I saw FF PID but it timed out...
[02:31] <riffautae> !lowmem | funnyfingers
[02:31] <funnyfingers> It is a Xen domu I am making a template from and want the "disk" to have a single partition.  Unfortunately a swap file isn't an option during the install.
[02:31] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: yes... Im using it right now with IRC
[02:31] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  wow
[02:31] <funnyfingers> I'll just up the mem to 1024 MB and restart the install then if that is the most likely cause.
[02:31] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: weird is that I can ping many IP's fine... no loss packets...
[02:31] <bobweaver> irc showed up on sudo netstat -apn -l -A inet"
[02:32] <OttifantSir> funnyfingers: I can understand that. Less complexity. I read an article about cgroups and LXC (Linux Containers) in a magazine. It seems like you should take a look at that with your starting point.
[02:32] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  traceroute google.com
[02:32] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  are you getting there ?
[02:32] <funnyfingers> OttifantSir - I have done it for debian and centos already.  Just trying Ubuntu.  It wasn't very bright of me to use 128 MB:)
[02:33] <vladimirsanchez> no traceroute command found
[02:33] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  sudo apt-get install traceroute
[02:33] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  is it installing >?
[02:34] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: nope, cant connect to update server
[02:34] <delinquentme> how does on call OGV a open file format .. when i need a paid for converter to change it into something usable....
[02:34] <OttifantSir> funnyfingers: As Edison (likely) would have said in your place: I've found yet another way of making a template that doesn't work.
[02:34] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: it tried.
[02:34] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: got a 110 : Connection Timeout
[02:34] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  can you sign into your router >
[02:35] <bobweaver> ?
[02:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: from the laptop (Ubuntu?)
[02:35] <bobweaver> yes
[02:35] <bobweaver> with wireless
[02:35] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: yes... im there
[02:36] <bobweaver> look around wireless please
[02:36] <funnyfingers> OttifantSir - If I understand you correctly, I actually am doing this template the standard way for the virtualization control panel that I work on.
[02:36] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  please also look at firewall
[02:36] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I see the laptop in the dhcp client list.
[02:36] <bobweaver> Oo
[02:36] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: in Ubuntu?
[02:37] <bobweaver> no
[02:37] <bobweaver> on router
[02:37] <bobweaver> if there is one
[02:37] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: nope...
[02:37] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  also you are not blocking mac address are you ?
[02:38] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: nope, I just checked the .... ??? wait a sec...
[02:38] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: I remember using iwconfig prior to your intervention...
[02:38] <vladimirsanchez> and I set the /etc/network/interfaces...
[02:38] <number19> i deicded to get on my girls laptop and while i try to install
[02:38] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: does this has any effect on inet?
[02:39] <number19> hopefully this will help
[02:39] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  cat /ect/network/interfaces
[02:39] <number19> bobweaver: my lsmod only list 3 modules
[02:39] <bobweaver> number19:  Wow
[02:39] <number19> usb_storage vesafb and r8169
[02:40] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: auto wlan0
[02:40] <number19> yeah its not even a install yet really, it will be once i get it on the internet
[02:40] <bobweaver> number19:  r8169 is eth0
[02:40] <number19> yeah
[02:40] <number19> everything should work
[02:40] <number19> i'm confused
[02:41] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[02:41] <vladimirsanchez>     essid <ID>
[02:41] <vladimirsanchez>     wireless-essid <ID>
[02:41] <number19> i have it plugged up and i also have the internal lan turned on in my bios
[02:41] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: sorry
[02:41] <number19> how would you remove a kernel module? could modprobe also do that?
[02:42] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  in /etc/network/interfaces    ADD: auto lo
[02:42] <bobweaver> iface lo inet loopback
[02:42] <number19> isn't there like an rmod or something?
[02:42] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: auto lo; iface lo inet loopback .... is there...
[02:43] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: first two lines
[02:43] <number19> i tryed to find r8169.conf to delete it, it mentioned that on that link you sent me but i can't find the file
[02:43] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  sudo services network restart
[02:44] <bobweaver> number19:  maybe it is not there ?
[02:44] <number19> yeah thats what i'm figuring
[02:44] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: services command not found :(
[02:44] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: weird!
[02:44] <number19> i'm offocially stumped
[02:45] <qin> vladimirsanchez: sudo service ...
[02:45] <bobweaver> vladimirsanchez:  sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[02:45] <bobweaver> qin you are right typo woops
[02:45] <number19> how can i remove a kernel mod ?
[02:45] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: unrecognized service.
[02:46] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: network
[02:46] <qin> vladimirsanchez: networking
[02:46] <SoulShadow> so...my intel 6230 isn't being seen as a bluetooth device in ubuntu
[02:46] <qin> vladimirsanchez: and not restart, but stop/start
[02:47] <SoulShadow> if you have a dedicated wpan spot on your board does that kill the 6230's bluetooth ability?
[02:47] <SoulShadow> or is something just not liking me
[02:47] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: networking stop/waiting
[02:48] <OttifantSir> bobweaver: Thanks to seeing number19's comment on networking, I took a look at my BIOS, and I didn't have network because it was disabled in BIOS. After your help, and a quick check in BIOS, I now have both interfaces up and running again. So, my fault, not Ubuntu. Still, thank you.
[02:50] <SoulShadow> anyone use a intel 6230 with ubuntu?
[02:51] <funnyfingers> SoulShadow - I just know that the latest Debian had network drivers that the latest Ubuntu did not...
[02:51] <number19> i know there is a insmod? is there a command to remove mods as well?
[02:51] <maestrojed> Is "apt-get update" the same as running Ubuntu's Update Manager?
[02:51] <Rameneglion> number19: I think it's rmmod
[02:51] <funnyfingers> So it isn't out of the question that your device wouldn't work out of the box.
[02:51] <bobweaver> number19:  rmmod
[02:51] <SoulShadow> funnyfingers: well i'm running 11.10 fully updated and bluetooth app doesn't see my 6230
[02:51] <Rameneglion> I'm having troubing installing a driver for my sound card. Does anyone here have a Creative X-Fi card?
[02:52] <SoulShadow> lspci sees it, wifi works, but nothing sees the bt, rfkill or bluetooth app
[02:52] <bobweaver> maestrojed:  kinda but like  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:52] <number19> thanks
[02:52] <funnyfingers> SoulShadow - So the device is installed then it seems?
[02:52] <OttifantSir> maestrojed: That updates the list of programs and updates, but does not install it. "sudo apt-get upgrade" installs the updates after an "apt-get update"
[02:52] <SoulShadow> yeah, i have wireless so i assume it's installed :P
[02:52] <maestrojed> bobweaver OttifantSir  awesome, thanks! I am learning :)
[02:53] <bobweaver> !apt | maestrojed
[02:54] <vladimirsanchez_> bobweaver: darnit! restarted router.. now Im live...
[02:54] <maestrojed> I am building a media center so I am going for a little more pizazz over utilitarian. I'd love to have my desktop show the weather and a cool clock. Suggestions? I have tried screenlets and kde superkarama but they aren't really working well. Any other suggestions?
[02:54] <vladimirsanchez_> bobweaver: my apology..
[02:55] <SoulShadow> funnyfingers: i can try debian
[02:55] <soreau> maestrojed: xbmc
[02:55] <bobweaver> !conky | maestrojed
[02:55] <SoulShadow> conky ftw <3
[02:56] <maestrojed> soreau I am using xbmc and I do like its UI. But I am not always using XBMC which is why I wanted it on my desktop
[02:56] <maestrojed> bobweaver soreau  checking it out, thx
[02:56] <soreau> maestrojed: ah ok
[02:57] <number19> when i try to connect to the net i'm getting "ethtool-lite: eth0 is disconnected."
[02:57] <number19> not in the terminal but in the logs
[02:57] <maestrojed> if anyone has other suggestions of cool things to add to a media center I am all ears. So far boxee, xbmc, spotify, banshee, hulu, cairo,
[02:58] <quixotedon> maestrojed: try using clementine to play songs
[02:59] <maestrojed> quixotedon I will check it out. Thx!
[02:59] <quixotedon> all, how to disable autoplay when we plug in a removable device in 11.10?
[02:59] <soreau> bobweaver: SoulShadow: Can conky do weather with flashy icons?
[02:59] <bobweaver> soreau:  not really
[02:59] <OttifantSir> maestrojed: I haven't had time to check it, but Software Center also has Enna (EFL Mediacenter). MPD (Music Player Daemon) might be something to look at.
[02:59] <sumpter> @Sh3r1ff how do you find out where your cd rom drive is mounted?
[02:59] <SoulShadow> soreau not really no
[03:00] <quixotedon> maestrojed: i deleted banshee due to many crashes it has
[03:00] <maestrojed> I will check them out. Thanks OttifantSir
[03:00] <maestrojed> quixotedon I like  banshee because of its integration with Internet Archive (I am an ole school dead head)
[03:01] <hogu> I'm on a VPS hosted server running 10.04, and when I run do-release-upgrade I get no release found, how do I upgrade to 11.10?
[03:01] <sumpter> where is the cd rom drive mounted in ubuntu? something like /dev/fstab?
[03:01] <xangua> hogu: you do not upgrade from 10.04 to 11.10
[03:01] <hansg01> is the command correct sudo chown -R $user:$user $home
[03:01] <quixotedon> maestrojed: ow, you can also find the internet link, like jatumendo, last.fm, internetcast and so on, but yes, you can't find internet archive.. banshee is good but too prone on 11.10 :(
[03:02] <xangua> hogu: you can upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 or from lts to lts - 10.04 to 12.04 -
[03:02] <maestrojed> quixotedon awesome ideas.
[03:02] <maestrojed> quixotedon yeah I tried 11.x for a few months but when back to LTS
[03:02] <OttifantSir> quixotedon: About autoplay, System Settings -> Removable Media should give you what you want.
[03:02] <qin> hansg01: No. env are usually capital: echo $HOME; echo $home
[03:02] <hogu> @xangua, if I go to 10.10, after that can I go to 11.10?
[03:03] <xangua> hogu: no, from 10.10 you have to go to 11.04
[03:03] <SoulShadow> 11.04
[03:03] <sumpter> where is the cd rom drive mounted in ubuntu? something like /dev/fstab?
[03:03] <SoulShadow> 11.10
[03:03] <number19> bah
[03:03] <hansg01> qin: can u please rewrite the complete corrrect command
[03:03] <quixotedon> maestrojed: for sure, if you like singing the song along with the lyric appears to you and some info on the artist you are listening to, then clementine is a good choice
[03:03] <binni> how do I make changes to /etc/hosts take effect?
[03:03] <number19> thanks for the help bob, i'm gonna call it quits for tonight'
[03:04] <soreau> binni: Should take effect immediately afaik but you could try restarting network-manager service I guess
[03:04] <Rameneglion> Anyone around think they could give me some help installing a driver?
[03:04] <qin> hansg01: Maybe say that do you intend, since -R in chown tend to be too powerful to be used blindly.
[03:04] <funnyfingers> hogu - just curious since 10.04 has a lot of life left, what do you need in 11.10?
[03:04] <quixotedon> OttifantSir: thanks
[03:04] <OttifantSir> sumpter: My CD/DVD-drive is mounted at /dev/sr0, but that might not be the case for you
[03:04] <hogu> @xangua ok thats fine, but the point is how do I do that   I always get no release found, and if I do it with -d, it upgrades me to 12.04
[03:04] <soreau> hogu: I'd highly recommend cleanly installing the version of ubuntu you want and avoiding upgrades
[03:04] <sumpter> @ottifansir thank you
[03:05] <sumpter> @ottifantsir thank you
[03:05] <hogu> @funnyfingers 10.04 is still on python2.6 and i like 2.7
[03:05] <quixotedon> maestrojed: so LTS is much better than the last os upgrade (w/o LTS)?
[03:05] <xangua> hogu: you have to enable normal upgrades on Software Sources, LTS are set to upgrade only to LTS as default
[03:05] <hansg01> qin: i used this command earlier too to de encrypt my data that is not under my mermission but is in root's permission
[03:05] <xangua> quixotedon: define better
[03:05] <hogu> @xangua, I do that by altering sources.list?
[03:05] <quixotedon> maestrojed: 10.10 is my first ubuntu use
[03:05] <xangua> hogu: no, open software center - edit - software sources
[03:06] <hogu> it's VPS, no X
[03:06] <hogu> I could install X
[03:06] <hogu> but i'd rather not
[03:06] <quixotedon> xangua: i mean, 10.10 is LTS but 11.04 and 11.10 are not yet.. does that mean LTS (long term support) OS version comes more reliable??
[03:06] <xangua> quixotedon: 10.10 is not lts, 10.04 is
[03:06] <quixotedon> all, when i log in using guess, it appears that the display is gone..
[03:07] <quixotedon> xangua: oops, sorry, miss the number :d
[03:07] <qin> hansg01: So you have to decrypt, and chown then?
[03:07] <maestrojed> quixotedon 11.x is shiny. I never made it to 11.10. I was fine with 11.04 as an OS but a lot of programs just aren't ready for it
[03:07] <hansg01> qin: yep
[03:07] <funnyfingers> quixotedon - of course long term support is more reliable:)
[03:07] <weems> I cannot launch gdm: failed to acquire org.gnome.DisplayManager
[03:07] <soreau> quixotedon: LTS does not inherently mean more stable or reliable. It just means it will be officially supported longer with security updates and such
[03:07] <quixotedon> funnyfingers: so, should i downgrade my os?? now 11.10
[03:08] <hansg01> qin: chown is user to change the ownership of the file na???
[03:08] <quixotedon> soreau: this is what i understood though, without the term of more reliable/stable
[03:08] <quixotedon> :)
[03:08] <HACKhalo2> to be more informative, I'm trying to dualboot Archlinux and Ubuntu off of the grub install located in Ubuntu's partition (sda1). Arch is located at (sda7:/, sda6:/boot). Would I need to configure Ubuntu to point at the boot partition (sda6) or the root partiton (sda7), or is it archlinux's problem
[03:08] <qin> hansg01: Strange... sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[03:08] <Se7eN> Hi, I have a small problem .. I accidentally chmod 0755 foldername -R done on my domain in www folder .. Does anyone know how I can undo?
[03:08] <funnyfingers> quixotedon - Are you running a server that can't have any downtime?
[03:09] <soreau> quixotedon: I'm sure this behooves the ubuntu team to strive for LTS to be as reliable as possible but that's not particularly different from any other release
[03:09] <qin> hansg01: chown -- CHange OWNership
[03:09] <quixotedon> funnyfingers: i'm runing my own laptop computer
[03:09] <hansg01> qin: no offences but isnt it the ryt way?
[03:09] <quixotedon> funnyfingers: though i'm interested to try ubuntu on a server.. :)
[03:09] <JGAN> hello
[03:10] <JGAN> can you guys read me?
[03:10] <funnyfingers> quixotedon - I see no other choice but LTS for a server.
[03:10] <soreau> JGAN: nope
[03:10] <Rameneglion> Loud and clear.
[03:10] <JGAN> haha
[03:10] <JGAN> well i have a question for webmin/apache users?
[03:10] <soreau> ! ask | JGAN
[03:10] <quixotedon> funnyfingers: okay, noted down for more information.. :)
[03:10] <Se7eN> How can i undo chmod 0775 -R?
[03:11] <maestrojed> Se7eN http://movabletripe.com/archive/recursively-chmod-directories-only/  This shows you how to change permission for all dirs or all files.
[03:11] <quixotedon> funnyfingers: are you using oneiric as well?
[03:11] <qin> hansg01: Hm? Not it is not right way, since your encripted data in home, should not requre chown after decripting.
[03:11] <JGAN> does anybody know how to access logs of visitor ip addresses?
[03:11] <maestrojed> Se7eN you can't undo but you can change them back
[03:11] <Se7eN> Okay, let's see
[03:11] <funnyfingers> quixotedon - 10.04 LTS is fully supported until mid 2015 for example...
[03:11] <maestrojed> Se7eN 0755 is pretty standard for directories and 0644 for files
[03:11] <soreau> Se7eN: There's no 'back button' for that, you'd have to set the permissions back to what they were before you changed them
[03:11] <qin> JGAN: Apache, ssh. telnet, ftp, or what?
[03:11] <JGAN> apache web server
[03:11] <keithclark> Can anyone else get the following site to work?  http://www.virtualapple.org/lemonadestanddisk.html
[03:11] <xangua> funnyfingers: quixotedon desktop is until 2013
[03:11] <bobweaver> !permissions
[03:12] <JGAN> when somebody accesses your website, is their ip logged somewhere?
[03:12] <qin> JGAN: cd /var/log/apache2/
[03:12] <hansg01> qin: can you suggest any other method?
[03:12] <aeon-ltd> JGAN: yes i'd assume so somewhere on the server
[03:13] <qin> hansg01: How do you enrcipt your data?
[03:13] <qin> *encript
[03:13] <OttifantSir> keithclark: I get a message saying the ActiveGS plugin isn't supported if that's what you were asking about...
[03:13] <hansg01> i was using fedora and den i transferred that data which was there to ubuntu
[03:14] <quixotedon> xangua: funnyfingers: so what do you think is the best version?
[03:14] <hansg01> qin: the data got encrypted automatically
[03:14] <xangua> quixotedon: that depends of what do You want
[03:14] <salty> how can i adjust my network manager or what ever controls my usb network card from overclocking i guess would be the term... it causes it to shut down
[03:15] <Rameneglion> What is a good multi-platform chat client?
[03:15] <qin> hansg01: Ah, thought that your setup is bad... yes, just chown it, but maybe not in home directory directly. mkdir stuff_from_fed ?
[03:15] <funnyfingers> salty I have heard of networkmanager causing problems and some people disable it...
[03:15] <salty> then what would i use to connect
[03:15] <funnyfingers> not sure if you need it for what you do though...
[03:15] <keithclark> OttifantSir, yes
[03:15] <xub> How to use usb dac in ubuntu 11.04?
[03:15] <hansg01> qin: ok thanks!
[03:16] <funnyfingers> salty - sorry that is all I know of that:)
[03:16] <OttifantSir> Rameneglion: Personally, I prefer Pidgin for use on other platforms/OSes.
[03:16] <quixotedon> xangua: i'm learning to use ubuntu on dual boot along with windows7 but i mostly use ubuntu, and i have a big hope that i'm going to use it at the most.. there are many reasons to love using ubuntu :)
[03:16] <salty> oh ok thnx funnyfingers
[03:16] <weems> GDM will not launch after update to 11.10
[03:16] <Rameneglion> OttifantSir: Does Pidgin support Skype as well as Facebook? I had used Empathy previously, but I didn't really care for it.
[03:17] <weems> sudo gdm produces a display of 0.66 seconds
[03:17] <qin> weems: It is now lightdm...
[03:17] <JGAN> ok thanks qin
[03:17] <wunderkin> Rameneglion: for pidgin you can use xmpp to connect to facebook, i dont think you can use skype though
[03:17] <weems> then it hasnt launched either
[03:17] <weems> I chose gdm when the gconf screen came...
[03:17] <weems> didn't know...
[03:18] <Rameneglion> I guess Skype works well enough for Skype.
[03:18] <OttifantSir> Rameneglion: Yes. At least it does when installing a few plugins (I don't remember if Skype-plugin is in the repos though), and Facebook can be flaky when updates happen from Zuckerberg & co.
[03:18] <Rameneglion> Hm. Alright. Is there a way I can change my default Package Manager?
[03:19] <keithclark> Paypal not accepted when purchasing software?
[03:19] <keithclark> Unreal
[03:20] <funnyfingers> keithclark - what are you talking about?
[03:20] <OttifantSir> Rameneglion: Do you mean when double-clicking a .deb-file? If so, right-click and choose Open with.../Open with other program and choose gdebi or synaptic (if they're installed)
[03:20] <quixotedon> xangua: for my laptop computer, dell inspiron 14, 4030 , with 2GB ram, Intel® Pentium(R) CPU P6000 @ 1.87GHz × 2 , graphic is supposed to be ati radeon v534(can't really remember the number/series) with the system info stating driver vesa: m92, on intel architecture i386
[03:21] <keithclark> funnyfingers, in the software application, paypal is not accepted????
[03:22] <Rameneglion> OttifantSir: Well, my distro came with Muon, but I prefer Synaptic. Every time I launch Synaptic, though, it asks for my password. Something that Muon didn't do. Is this part of Synaptic's functionality or is it a setting I can play with?
[03:22] <Rameneglion> OttifantSir: It becomes an issue when rebooting with Synaptic open. Synaptic then opens without a password being given, so it won't have access to install packages.
[03:23] <urlin2u> Rameneglion, what distro had muon?
[03:24] <OttifantSir> Rameneglion: I see the password-on-open as a feature, but I agree that it can be frustrating. You're also asking for more than I can help with. I haven't tried switching from Muon to Synaptic myself. Sorry.
[03:24] <funnyfingers> Is a system is installed on an XVDA device (xen) once installation is complete how can I get it to boot if I change the device to sda?  CentOS throws all the drivers at it I guess which is why it doesn't have that problem.
[03:25] <keithclark> So not possible to buy software with the
[03:25] <Rameneglion> urlin2u: Kubuntu.
[03:26] <keithclark> software manager with paypal?
[03:26] <Rameneglion> OttifantSir: That's alright. It's a minor annoyance at most.
[03:26] <Rameneglion> I'm more concerned with getting my sound drivers to work than worrying about a little extra password typing
[03:26] <Papabrvo> Hello all. I am re-purposing an old Laptop drive into a usb drive. I got it formated ext3 but permissions are Root and I can't save files on it. Any ideas?
[03:27] <urlin2u> Rameneglion, ah I saw that in synaptic so in kubuntu you didn't use a password to install packages, that sounds strange as ubuntu needs super user access to do these things, I would think kubuntu as well.
[03:27] <funnyfingers> Papabrvoa chown -R user:user <path>
[03:27] <funnyfingers> maybe
[03:28] <funnyfingers> er user:group
[03:28] <funnyfingers> sorry I usually do that with user and group names that match...
[03:28] <OttifantSir> Rameneglion: My workaround would've been: Make a script with the commands to install from the package list generated by Synaptic in user-mode and make a shortcut on the desktop to run the script. Doesn't solve your basic problem though.
[03:29] <asdf-> hi, my audio does not work and it freezes all apps that try to play audio... alsa mixer plays the test beeps but ubuntu system -> sounds doesnt have any audio hardware listed
[03:29] <asdf-> pulseaudio is installed
[03:29] <Papabrvo> funnyfingers: just type that out? "chown -R user:group" Is that right?
[03:29] <Rameneglion> I think I'm going to worry about it after this sound driver thing pans out.
[03:30] <Rameneglion> I'll ask again 'cause I'm desparate. Anyone here have a Creative X-Fi card?
[03:30] <funnyfingers> no Papabrvo you would replace user with a real user.
[03:31] <funnyfingers> and then be sure you put the proper path...
[03:31] <vn> hi, why would ubuntu remote desktop's password prompt hang if I try to connect from outside my local network? what ports do I need to forward exactly?
[03:31] <Papabrvo> Funnyfingers: I assume were talking Terminal, how doe it know what drive I'm talking about
[03:32] <funnyfingers> I don't know the GUI from the terminal the mount command should help
[03:35] <Rameneglion> OttifantSir: Thank you for suggesting Pidgin, I rather like it.
[03:35] <quixotedon> i'm trying thunderbird with gmail client, and had problems sending emails
[03:36] <Shirakawasuna> hi folks. I'm having some trouble with my media server. It's running a bit slow, I went to test flash, but now I can't install flashplugin-downloader
[03:36] <OttifantSir> Rameneglion: You're welcome.
[03:36] <Shirakawasuna> the error is of unmet dependencies: flashplugin-downloader:i386 : Depends: libcurl3:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[03:36] <Shirakawasuna> my system is amd64
[03:37] <quixotedon> error on thunderbird is network connection timeout though i can still use the browser.. :(
[03:37] <xangua> !partner
[03:37] <xangua> Shirakawasuna: install adobe-flashplugin , from partner repos
[03:37] <Shirakawasuna> xangua: so the flashplugin-installer package is just broken?
[03:38] <dr3mro> hello , I have just created a deb file http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8828739/packages/nautilus_actions_etxra/nautilus_actions_extra_0.1.2.deb and i need to upload it to ppa but it's not s ource code but some scripts and desktop files can any one help me ?
[03:38] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, create a source package
[03:38] <tensorpudding> upload that
[03:39] <Shirakawasuna> wait...
[03:39] <Shirakawasuna> that's version 10, xangua
[03:39] <Shirakawasuna> I have to use an outdated flash version?
[03:39] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, can you tell me how ? please can you inspect the package http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8828739/packages/nautilus_actions_etxra/nautilus_actions_extra_0.1.2.deb ??
[03:39] <funnyfingers> Papabrvo any luck?
[03:39] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, you get the source, and run debuild -S
[03:39] <xangua> Shirakawasuna: are you using an outdated ubuntu version¿ :P
[03:40] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, the source package has the orig.tar.gz, a .dsc and a source.changes
[03:40] <tensorpudding> if you used debuild to create a .deb, it probably created them for you
[03:41] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this is not an application source code this is some scripts ?
[03:41] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, same difference
[03:43] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, how did you build the package
[03:43] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, I have crested the deb file manually ..
[03:43] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, how did you do that
[03:43] <vladimirsanchez> bobweaver: thanks again for your help. G'nite! Stay Hungry! :)
[03:43] <Shirakawasuna> xangua: no, but I think my installation may be having some issues
[03:44] <Shirakawasuna> xangua: I've noticed that it doesn't seem to think it needs updates as often as my laptop, so something's probably wrong
[03:44] <dr3mro> create debian/control .. put the files in dirs /usr/bin * .... then dpkg-deb --build -
[03:44] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, instead of doing dpkg-deb --build
[03:44] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, do debuild -S
[03:44] <tensorpudding> that'll create the files you need
[03:45] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, cannot find readable debian/changelog anywhere!
[03:45] <Shirakawasuna> xangua: lsb_release -sc returns oneiric
[03:45] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, are you in the right directory
[03:45] <tensorpudding> you need to be in the root of the package
[03:46] <Shirakawasuna> and now I don't have any sound
[03:46] <Shirakawasuna> I'm so confused :/
[03:46] <dr3mro> tensorpudding,
[03:46] <dr3mro> tensorpudding,  yes
[03:46] <domer> exit
[03:46] <evmunro> hi
[03:46] <dr3mro> tensorpudding,  can you plz get the package and extract it http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8828739/packages/nautilus_actions_etxra/nautilus_actions_extra_0.1.2.deb
[03:47] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, then tell me how to do it
[03:47] <tensorpudding> no
[03:47] <tensorpudding> you don't understand
[03:47] <tensorpudding> you can't make a source package from a .deb
[03:47] <tensorpudding> you need the source
[03:47] <tensorpudding> which you have
[03:47] <tensorpudding> and i told you want to do
[03:47] <FloodBot1> tensorpudding: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:48] <tensorpudding> go to the directory that contains debian/ and run debuild -S
[03:50] <Milos|Netbook> ssh installed by default?
[03:50] <Milos|Netbook> what's the name of the package?
[03:50] <Milos|Netbook> openssh?
[03:50] <Milos|Netbook> sshd?
[03:51] <mxed> ssh
[03:51] <mxed> apt-get install ssh
[03:51] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this is the source pkg i created how to make it like a source package http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8828739/usr.tar.gz
[03:52] <Milos|Netbook> thanks mxed
[03:52] <mxed> np ;)
[03:52] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this is the files i have just bah scripts and desktop files http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8828739/usr.tar.gz
[03:53] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, i don't see why i need to look at it, if you can use dpkg to create a deb file, you can use debuild to make a source package
[03:55] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, i manully edited control file and put the scripts in files like that i want it to be extracted into system .. this is the files i did it for .. but i cant put it into launchpad as it fails to build .. i dont want to build as there is no code to compile
[03:55] <tensorpudding> packages don't need code in order to build correctly
[03:56] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, just take alook at it and you will understand
[03:56] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, the hell
[03:57] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, why are the paths prefixed by usr/bin
[03:57] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, can you tell me how to start a plain source package
[03:57] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this is how i did make it manually
[03:57] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, it was a tutorial found it online
[03:58] <tensorpudding> you need to read the guide on packaging
[03:58] <tensorpudding> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[03:59] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, i have read it but failed to found how to create a package from sctarcth
[03:59] <maestrojed> Those that suggested conky forecast to me, do you pay for the XML feed? Is there an alternative solution to weather.com?
[04:00] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, first off, why are you trying to create a source package
[04:00] <somsip> maestrojed: no paying - it;s just a simple page scrape
[04:00] <maestrojed> somsip I must be following the wrong directions. :) I will keep googling
[04:00] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, why are you trying to package this pile of unrelated files
[04:01] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, to put it on launchpad and create a PPA
[04:01] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this files are scripts i made for nautilus actions
[04:01] <somsip> maestrojed: or you could try http://rss.accuweather.com/rss/liveweather_rss.asp\?metric\=${METRIC}\&locCode\=$1
[04:02] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, first, you should organize them better
[04:02] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, strip out the usr/bin part
[04:02] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, what is all that junk in usr/share
[04:02] <tensorpudding> you have a bunch of files with garbage names
[04:03] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this is the *.desktop  files that contains the settings of nautilus actions
[04:03] <leeping> Hi there, when I run the command "ssh -R0:laptop.dyndns.org:22 workstation.university.edu" the following is printed to stderr: "Allocated port 53393 for remote forward to laptop.dyndns.org:22" .  I would really like the number "53393" to be printed to a file on workstation.university.edu.  Is this possible?
[04:03] <mxed> delete that path then hehe and you will see
[04:04] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, it makes no sense to have .desktop files for shell scripts
[04:04] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, in any case, they should have the same names as the scripts they represent
[04:04] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this is how nautilus-actions-config-tool works!
[04:04] <tensorpudding> it works by creating files with names as UUIDs?
[04:04] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, they don't .. wait a sec I will show you
[04:06] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, this is how it looks after install http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4668/screenshotat20111110060.jpg
[04:08] <chenbing>  hiall ,is ubuntu's easycam2 is useful in debian+xfce4 to a webcam?
[04:08] <chenbing>  
[04:08] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, are you sure they need to be named those ridiculous names?
[04:08] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, show me the debian/rules you wrote
[04:08] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, yes this is how the developer made it
[04:09] <tensorpudding> wait, did *you* make this package or did someone else?
[04:09] <obert-> 2 hd and no one would works:(
[04:09] <dr3mro> i had got the easies tutorial i will send youu link to it
[04:11] <obert-> if i get the field 'the computer needs to have at least 4.4GB free' unchecked (from the CD) should means that the disk is damaged?
[04:11] <kikebach> how to configure zyxel to create my web ?
[04:11] <skandranon> Ubuntu hates me. Upgraded my girls computer to 11.10, that was a nightmare. She HATES it! Reinstalling 10.04.3 After install (new download, new burn), the pc boots to a "blank" purple screen (the default desktop background) with nothing else. If I try to run the intsall again, it shows ubuntu 10.04.3 being installed, but everytime I boot its back to this blank screen. How can I fix this plz?
[04:11] <skpl> can someone tell me how to change the window border theme in ubuntu?
[04:11] <costre> obert-, perhaps it needs some partitioning/formatting?
[04:12] <costre> skpl, settings -> settings manager -> appearance
[04:12] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, this is all probably irrelevant, if you built a .deb from it, that means that you can build a source package
[04:12] <obert-> costre: no idea, shouldnt ask for formatting it before that step? (but after Install Ubuntu instead Try it)
[04:12] <costre> but im on kubuntu ... :)
[04:12] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, you just run debuild -S
[04:13] <wmoxam> skandranon: she hates it?
[04:13] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, no i didn't
[04:13] <xangua> !nomodeset  | skandranon
[04:13] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, you do it from the directory containing debian/
[04:13] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, you didn't?
[04:13] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, wait, someone else made that .deb?
[04:13] <skpl> costre: i want to install a theme i downloaded from gnome-look.org
[04:13] <obert-> costre: anyway started from CD and lauched gparted has returned a blank gparted window:p
[04:13] <codeshah> hmm, I just realized my innodb file is 9GB
[04:13] <codeshah> is that too large?
[04:13] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/
[04:14] <dr3mro> tensorpudding,  this is how i do it
[04:14] <tensorpudding> that documentation is hideously, totally out of date
[04:15] <star_> hi,anybody kown how to install lustre
[04:15] <skandranon> Is there a way to set !nomodeset without a reinstall? Seems like I have to do it over
[04:15] <Spartak> Anyone playing programming in visual programming in Ubuntu? Is there a visual tool more fun than Scratch and Illumination? I have tried them both, and eager to play some more tools :D
[04:16] <skandranon> @wmoxam - Yes She hates the new look, and everytime she changes monitors she has to reboot.
[04:16] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[04:16] <christopher> for nvidia drivers whats the difference between version current and post release?
[04:16] <pnorman> skandranon: For testing, or permanently?
[04:16] <skandranon> Permanently
[04:16] <bonhoffer> in htop there are 20 processes running and i want to kill them all
[04:16] <bonhoffer> do i need to write down their pids?
[04:17] <star_> luster who kown...
[04:17] <bonhoffer> i'm on a server . . . no gui
[04:17] <star_> lustre
[04:17] <HACKhalo2> bonhoffer, install killall and use it
[04:17] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, that doc doesn't even tell you how to do what you need to do, since it doesn't cover writing a debian/rules file
[04:17] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, rules is need to build not to create a deb
[04:17] <pnorman> skandranon: I believe it's something to do with grub-config, but not sure on the details
[04:18] <bonhoffer> HACKhalo2, ok link?
[04:18] <bonhoffer> i can't find that package
[04:19] <HACKhalo2> try to use "killall htop"
[04:19] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, i'm not sure if that's true or not, but i think you need a debian/rules to run debuild
[04:19] <bonhoffer> HACKhalo2, doesn't work at all
[04:19] <HACKhalo2> ok, just a sec
[04:19] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, thnx any wau
[04:20] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, thnx any way
[04:20] <yyyyni> I have installed Fedora16,but booting,I can't find Ubuntu.How could I make Ubuntu listed when booting?
[04:20] <tash> is there a preferred or suggested method to mount a windows share in ubuntu server?
[04:20] <HACKhalo2> bonhoffer, install the 'psmisc' package
[04:20] <tash> maybe a link to it if you have one handy? I've found several but didn't know the best way
[04:21] <bonhoffer> got it
[04:21] <tensorpudding> tash, mount.smbfs, probably
[04:21] <yyyyni> Anyone help me?
[04:21] <HACKhalo2> well the killall command is in that package
[04:22] <reo> yyyyni: Are you sure you didnt overwrite the ubuntu partition?
[04:23] <prometheanfire> hmm, anyone use any type of linux on a macbook pro 8,2?
[04:23] <Papabrvo> Trying to use old laptop drive as a usb drive. Permission is root and I am trying to change. Got the chown part but stuck on all else.....HELP
[04:23] <reo> yyyyni:Because fedora should come with GRUB that will list the operating systems on the HD when it boots
[04:24] <aeon-ltd> prometheanfire: that sounds like a recent model, why would you want to?
[04:24] <yyyyni> reo: The ubuntu partition still exits
[04:25] <reo> yyyyni: then try installing grub through fedora, I havent used Fed in a while so I dont know the specifics
[04:25] <newbie947> hi guys.  i have a blocked tcp connection from myself outgoing on port 8093.  i'm wondering what this is for?  is it anything necessary and if not how can i make it go away?
[04:25] <prometheanfire> aeon-ltd: osx keeps crashing, I've had enough of it
[04:25] <reo> yyyyni: *grub2
[04:25] <reo> Ive seen vids of ubuntu 11.xx booting on a MacBook
[04:26] <yyyyni> reo: I use the command"sudo grub-install /dev/sda",but it din't work.
[04:26] <prometheanfire> I've used linux on older macs, but I don't use this hardware by choice
[04:26] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, sorry but can you tell me how to create a simple source package for say .. HelloWorld.sh ??
[04:27] <aeon-ltd> prometheanfire: it's probably more worthwhile to troubleshoot the mac problems, before installing linux then getting a slew of potential hardware problems
[04:27] <escott> !ufw | newbie947
[04:27] <reo> yyyyni: What I did when that happened with Ubu after I installed CrunchBang is that I installed grub using the puppy linux Live CD
[04:27] <imbezol> unlike any other distribution?
[04:27] <prometheanfire> maybe, but every time I reboot it dies a little more
[04:27] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, you need to create an .install file to tell it to put the file in the right place
[04:27] <reo> yyyyni: *live usb
[04:27] <imbezol> there are tonnes of distros with built in firewalls
[04:28] <laluls212> hiii..
[04:28] <newbie947> escott: i have outgoing connections set to restrictive
[04:28] <reo> yyyyni: Other than that I woudnt be sure other than trying to install it through a live USB/CD
[04:28] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, is there a tutorial to create very simple source pacakge from scratch
[04:28] <CarlFK> imbezol: I think you misread
[04:28] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, yes
[04:28] <newbie947> escott: this was a random request from my computer on that port
[04:28] <laluls212> can someone help me with setting up wildcard subdomain in my localhost?
[04:28] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, if you run dh_make, it'll create some templates
[04:28] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, install debhelper
[04:28] <imbezol> CarlFK: so i did.. i read that as unlike
[04:29] <Elnetotaca> join #ubuntu-es
[04:29] <Elnetotaca> ???
[04:29] <Elnetotaca> how in the....
[04:29] <imbezol> CarlFK: i was like.. uh.. i guess i can think of one without it base install
[04:29] <prometheanfire> in any case, osx has been getting in my way more then it's been helping
[04:29] <CarlFK> imbezol: seemed so
[04:29] <fellayaboy> laluls212 what are you trying to do
[04:29] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, do you know how to write a makefile?
[04:29] <Elnetotaca> well
[04:29] <Elnetotaca> trying to go to the localized chanel
[04:30] <Elnetotaca> but forgot how to move around here
[04:30] <Papabrvo> Trying to use old laptop drive as a usb drive. Permission is root and I am trying to change. Got the chown part but stuck on all else.....HELP
[04:30] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#install
[04:30] <CarlFK> Elnetotaca: /j #ubuntu-es
[04:30] <Elnetotaca> thanks!
[04:30] <newbie947> escott: i want to know the purpose of it.  i know what the ubuntu firewall is...
[04:30] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, create a debian/install file, and put a list of entries, one for each file, telling it where to put the files
[04:30] <tensorpudding> dr3mro, you can use the default debian/rules file
[04:31] <dr3mro> tensorpudding, ok i will see and thnx for advance
[04:32] <wunderkin> i++
[04:33] <skandranon> Just reinstalled with nomodeset checked, sitting at the same blank screen
[04:34] <Papabrvo> Trying to use old laptop drive as a usb drive. Permission is root and I am trying to change. Got the chown part but stuck on all else.....HELP
[04:35] <kulus> >Hi all
[04:36] <skandranon> 10.04.3 After install (new download, new burn), the pc boots to a "blank" purple screen (the default desktop background) with nothing else. If I try to run the intsall again, it shows ubuntu 10.04.3 being installed, but everytime I boot its back to this blank screen. How can I fix this plz? Tried to install with "nomodeset" checked, same result. :(
[04:37] <kulus> does anyone know if 32-bit Ubuntu is still more stable than 64-bit Ubuntu on a 64-bit machine?
[04:38] <tensorpudding> it's not going to be more stable or less stable
[04:38] <aeon-ltd> kulus: what you use is going to change more than a kernel that's been extensively tested
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> kulus: It's never been a question of stability, but compatibility for random third-party software, most notably Adobe Flash.
[04:40] <kulus> i find a lot of programs ie Banshee turn darker and either shutdown or become unresponsive on two of my computers
[04:40] <fernando_> klml
[04:40] <kulus> one is a desktop the other a netbook
[04:41] <tensorpudding> kulus, that means that they have bugs that caused them to become unresponsive
[04:41] <tensorpudding> or that your computer is slow enough that they lag significantly
[04:41] <kulus> they work sometimes but slowly and then later crash
[04:41] <help_seeker> excuse me!
[04:42] <help_seeker> I am a new user of ubuntu
[04:42] <kulus> I have a dual core amd and an Atom N550
[04:42] <help_seeker> especially a new user of lunix based OS
[04:42] <tensorpudding> kulus, you need to clarify which programs do this
[04:43] <tensorpudding> ubuntu is going to be someone strained on an atom
[04:43] <tensorpudding> especially if your RAM is a gigabyte
[04:43] <kulus> tensorpudding - Banshee, Update Manager, File Manager, quite a few
[04:43] <kulus> I have 1gb
[04:43] <help_seeker> And I want to get some help about how to Install a new software in Ubuntu
[04:43] <kulus> ddr3
[04:43] <tensorpudding> banshee is not very stable, it's a resource hog
[04:44] <tensorpudding> it's unfortunate that it's the default music player
[04:44] <kulus> good to know
[04:44] <tensorpudding> the others are probably due to bugs
[04:44] <tensorpudding> which version of ubuntu?
[04:44] <help_seeker> 11.10
[04:44] <tensorpudding> can you reproduce the behavior?
[04:44] <kulus> other than the annoying crasher I like Banshee
[04:44] <kulus> 11.10
[04:44] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, open the Ubuntu Software Center, and you'll find a lot of software you can install
[04:45] <help_seeker> No through tetrminal
[04:45] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, do you really want to use the terminal?
[04:45] <help_seeker> not from soft center
[04:45] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, to install software from the terminal, use apt-get
[04:45] <help_seeker> yes. I am given this task
[04:45] <kulus> I'm using 11.10
[04:45] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, the manual is at 'man apt-get'
[04:45] <tensorpudding> kulus, okay
[04:45] <kulus> unity
[04:46] <tensorpudding> kulus, can you reproduce the crash of file manager?
[04:46] <kulus> I'm willing to go to lubuntu if it would help
[04:46] <help_seeker> I have installed two software which According to me was succesfully installed in Ubuntu.
[04:46] <tensorpudding> kulus, does this crash come with a popup saying that it has crashed?
[04:46] <help_seeker> But I can not fined them in side my PC any where
[04:47] <help_seeker> sorry find
[04:47] <amasawa> i'm trying to check something out and i need someone willing to run a Grep command for me, and tell me what result they get. grep '\(^.\).\{1,15}\1' testfile.txt and then try grep '\(^.\)*\{1,15}\1' testfile.txt and pastie the output of the latter command for me
[04:47] <amasawa> i am trying to decide if it's a bug or not with grep
[04:47] <kulus> I can't reproduce it right now, the pop up comes up occasionally but not consistently sometimes it just gets darker and then I can't use it for a while
[04:48] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, what did you install, did it install successfully, and have you checked that the files from the package are on your computer, and that apt knows they are installed?
[04:49] <tensorpudding> kulus, the "getting darker" means that it is unresponsive due to either getting frozen or just being overloaded
[04:49] <tensorpudding> kulus, usually it should go away if you leave it alone for a bit
[04:49] <kulus> tensorpudding - would lubuntu help me with the overload?
[04:49] <tensorpudding> kulus, getting this a lot usually means that your hardware is overtaxed
[04:49] <help_seeker> yes the package was successfully installed.
[04:49] <tensorpudding> kulus, which would make somse sense on a netbook
[04:49] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, how do you know that you can't find them
[04:50] <help_seeker> ./congfigure then make then make install
[04:50] <kulus> lubuntu 32-bit then?
[04:50] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, don't install software that way
[04:50] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, unless you know what you're doing
[04:50] <help_seeker> these were the command used as told in manual
[04:50] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, install software using apt
[04:51] <tensorpudding> kulus, lubuntu uses different tools than regular ubuntu, they use less resources, for your netbook it might be a good idea to try it
[04:51] <kulus> it is a 64-bit machine
[04:51] <help_seeker> but what if I only have the source code not the binary files?
[04:51] <tensorpudding> kulus, you can use lubuntu with 64-bit
[04:51] <kulus> can it utilize 64-bit with lubuntu
[04:52] <help_seeker> will apt-get work with them
[04:52] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, you should check to see if what you tried to install is in the apt repositories
[04:52] <mxed> or use the  software center or synaptic (you need to install synaptic from apt or the center
[04:52] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, by searching for it
[04:52] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, on http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:52] <kulus> thank you tensorpudding
[04:52] <kulus> I'll grab my usb
[04:52] <help_seeker> Ok thanks!
[04:52] <help_seeker> One more question
[04:52] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, without knowing what it is you installed using make, we have no idea how to help you
[04:53] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, there's no guarantee it'll work at all
[04:53] <help_seeker> Why does banshee not support MP3 format
[04:53] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, the apt repos package up the software, make sure it works with ubuntu, so it's almost always better to get it from there
[04:54] <xangua> help_seeker: because you haven't installed codecs¿
[04:54] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, it's due to you not having the codecs installed for it
[04:54] <bandit5432>  nouveau  cant get it to reinstall after installing nvidia-current
[04:54] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, the codecs are the decoders that "read" the files so that banshee can play them
[04:54] <booh-> Hi, Is it possible to take a running ubuntu box and convert it to virtual machine in vmware "as is" ?
[04:54] <Lostmonk> anyone have an ipod touch with ios5 working on ubuntu?
[04:55] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:56] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, an explanation why the codecs aren't included, and how to get them
[04:56] <help_seeker> tensorpudding, please give me your email or any other contact so that I will discuss my problem with you in detail
[04:56] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, i would rather not
[04:56] <xangua> Lostmonk: if you have oneiric, enable proposed and backport updates; see if there is a libimoviledevice update ;)
[04:56] <xangua> or downgrade to iOS 4
[04:56] <tash> I'm following a tutorial, but it doesn't seem to be accomplishing what I want.  I  put the following in /etc/fstab and it mounts on boot, but things are writeable.  Is that a permissions issue on my Windows box I need to modify? Or, am I doing something wrong in fstab? //MyPC/Users        /mnt/data       cifs    credentials=/etc/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777    0       0
[04:56] <tash> aren't writeable*
[04:56] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, sharing email with people on the internet invites a level of availability that i'm not at all comfortable with
[04:57] <Lostmonk> thanks xangua
[04:57] <Lostmonk> how do I do that?
[04:57] <Lostmonk> :)
[04:57] <tash> and that is all one line, sorry, my chat client wrapped it
[04:57] <help_seeker> well I am giving you the link to the software which is vital for me and I am unable to install it. w8.
[04:57] <aschool> Looking for help with a sporadic invisible cursor.
[04:58] <help_seeker> http://www.codeblocks.org/downloads/25
[04:58] <help_seeker> I used scr
[04:58] <help_seeker> the top one
[04:58] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, there's a codeblocks package in ubuntu
[04:58] <help_seeker> but It even not congfigured successfully.
[04:58] <help_seeker> ?
[04:59] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/codeblocks
[04:59] <tensorpudding> help_seeker, just run 'sudo apt-get install codeblocks'
[05:00] <urlin2u> booh-, using you exact question I found this which you could have di=one yourself, never used it good luck. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/vmware-converter.html
[05:00] <urlin2u> di=one =done*
[05:00] <help_seeker> thanks a lot.
[05:01] <help_seeker> please give me a link to a mp3 code which work with Banshee
[05:01] <help_seeker> codec
[05:02] <urlin2u> !restricted extras
[05:02] <xangua> help_seeker: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:02] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[05:03] <guest89> Hello! Quick semi-related question: Best IRC client for Linux? What're you all currently using? I'm on webchat.freenode.net...
[05:03] <tensorpudding> !best
[05:03] <amasawa> guest89: irssi
[05:03] <help_seeker>  please give me a link to a mp3 code which work with Banshee
[05:03] <OliveGreen> How do I start an indicator that I've just installed in Gnome Shell?
[05:03] <bandit5432> any ideas on how to get nouveau to work after installing nvidia-current?
[05:03] <aschool> Could someone point me in a direction to debug my disappearing mouse problem? I've use Linux for years but haven't been able to find any good leads on the problem.
[05:03] <guest89> tensorpudding: understood.
[05:03] <aeon-ltd> guest89: also don't run polls when busy, or generally in large channels
[05:04] <guest89> I was looking at Konversation, but it said that it runs on KDE and/or GNOME - I'm on Unity 2D. Would there be any problems for me?
[05:04] <amasawa> guest89: you can pm me if you want about it
[05:04] <tensorpudding> guest89, do a search for IRC in the software center, and pick a few, and try them out
[05:04] <iceroot> guest89: you can use it with unity-2d too
[05:04] <tensorpudding> guest89, not at all, it's based on KDE but you can use it in Ubuntu fine
[05:04] <guest89> Thanks for all the fast responses, everyone. I'll try a few out now.
[05:05] <pr0tocoldan> My DVD Rom is not working. It spins but it drivers don't seem to be installed how can I troubleshoot this problem?
[05:06] <tensorpudding> OliveGreen, i think you can install extensions using gnome-tweak-tool, it might be better to ask in #gnome
[05:06] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, does dmesg give you any clues?
[05:07] <tensorpudding> OliveGreen, i've not tried before, but they should appear after restarting gnome-shell with alt-f2 then r
[05:07] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, all I get is unable to enumerate device on USB port 5
[05:08] <pr0tocoldan> USB device on port 5
[05:08] <rhollan> Can someone PLEASE tell me how to get a unity desktop launched to work? What context is the command run in?
[05:08] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, what brand/model is it?
[05:08] <rhollan> launcher, that is
[05:09] <pr0tocoldan> I haven't been able to find it. It's the stock DVD rom an an HP dv2000
[05:09] <pr0tocoldan> asschool, it's the stock DVD Rom on an HP dv2000
[05:09] <rhollan> I've set EXEC to /usr/bin/java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp ~/minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame which works fine in an xterm shell, but not from within a .desktop file
[05:09] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, what interface does it use?
[05:10] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, USB I assume?
[05:10] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, I'm not sure. Is there a command to tell?
[05:11] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, Is it internal or external?
[05:11] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, internal
[05:11] <rhollan> anyone here understand .desktop files?
[05:12] <OliveGreen> tensorpudding, Actually I all needed to do was to restart Gnome and activate the indicator from Gnome-Tweak-Tool. So, thanks for reminding me to restart Gnome. :-)
[05:12] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, I don't think that the USB message from dmesg is your clue. Look for either sdc, sda, sd?, or hd?
[05:14] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, all I get from the command is 1037.176137] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 5 with variation in --- 1037.176137]
[05:14] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, try dmesg | more
[05:14] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, I get the same
[05:14] <Milossh> hello. Did anyone managed to install xulrunner on oneiric?
[05:16] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, try "cat /var/log/dmesg"
[05:17] <stochastic> hey has anyone had trouble getting ubuntu one folders to sync?
[05:18] <Axumus> .
[05:18] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, what should I be looking for?
[05:18] <oupateddie> hi, anybody knows what could be causing a machine to have the processor run at 100% but where there is nou processes showing in the monitor screen. The Internet access is zero and the memory usage is 400Mb. There is only the system monitor process show more than 10% usage...
[05:18] <rhollan> ARG! Figured it out: ~ was not being expanded on the Exec= line.
[05:19] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, sdc or something and a line that contains DVD. It tell you where to find the DVD player.
[05:19] <rhollan> Grrr.
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> oupateddie: In the menu, go under View - if you don't have "All processes" selected then select it
[05:19] <oupateddie> will quickly look
[05:20] <oupateddie> ity is greyed out and I canot change it
[05:21] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, Do you have any ideas about my mouse problem?
[05:22] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, your mouse problem?
[05:22] <oupateddie> how/where would I change the view all processes
[05:22] <beatbreaker> * test
[05:22] <bandit5432> Milossh, are you running 64 bit?
[05:22] <aschool> About ever week or more my mouse cursor will disappear. It still works and I can click and see it highlight but I can't see the cursor.
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> oupateddie: From the menus at the top of the system monitor window
[05:22] <Milossh> bandit5432, nope, 32bit
[05:23] <bandit5432> Milossh, still looking then
[05:23] <bandit5432> Milossh, they kicked xulrunner from oneiric
[05:23] <bandit5432> Milossh, you can get a version that might work for you at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/70321863/xulrunner-1.9.2_1.9.2.17%2Bbuild3%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:23] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, I cannot find any sdc or DVD in any of the lines
[05:24] <bandit5432> Milossh, i dont know if thats a current version or not
[05:24] <oupateddie> tonyyarusso	On the top menu the View screen is all greyed ouit and I cannot get into it to change anything
[05:25] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, Try this tail -f /var/log/dmesg and see if any messages show up. Press ctl-c to quit
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> oupateddie: Are you on the processes tab?
[05:25] <bjrohan> I have 2 issues I could use help with 1.)I have Ubuntu on a dual boot system for about a month. Prior to 2 ours ago I could access all files on the NTFS partition. Now however if I double click on a file on that partition, it will only open in Read Only mode as the file is "locked". This happens in several applications, any idea why?
[05:25] <oupateddie> ah got it thanks
[05:26] <bandit5432> bjrohan, did you run windows and have it crash?
[05:27] <bjrohan> bandit5432 nope. I haven't used windows in about 3 weeks :-)
[05:27] <bandit5432> bjrohan, if the drive looks liked its not clean the ntfs drivers will not like mounting it r/w
[05:28] <bjrohan> bandit5432 can I remedy this by running anything in Ubuntu, or should I boot into windows and check the partition?
[05:29] <bandit5432> bjrohan, if its an external drive and gets unplugged it can cause that
[05:29] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, I get invatid option -- F if i add it next to cat, I get command not found if I remove cat and I get invalid option if i placed after /var/log/dmesg
[05:29] <bandit5432> bjrohan, i would run windows and do a disk check
[05:29] <bjrohan> bandit5432 - this HD is in my laptop, same drive 2 partitions, one with WIndows, the other with Ubuntu
[05:30] <bandit5432> bjrohan, hmm you might still run a disk check on it from windows
[05:31] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, am I putting the command wrong?
[05:32] <bjrohan> Will do bandit5432. One other issue. My sound works fine in Ubuntu, until I play certain games on Facebook in Chrome, then from that point on my wireless gets painfully slow, and any and all audio is garbled. I think it is some, but not all, facebook games. Any ideas what may cause this?
[05:32] <bandit5432> bjrohan, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:32] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, "tail -f /var/log/dmesg"
[05:32] <bjrohan> Bandit5432 turning the computer off and back on does not remedy the problem, I must stop networking, then restart it. Ubuntu 11.10
[05:33] <bjrohan> Bandit5432 turning the computer off and back on does not remedy the problem, I must stop networking, then restart it. Ubuntu 11.10
[05:33] <skandranon> 10.04.3 After install (new download, new burn), the pc boots to a "blank" purple screen (the default desktop background) with nothing else. If I try to run the intsall again, it shows ubuntu 10.04.3 being installed, but everytime I boot its back to this blank screen. How can I fix this plz? Tried to install with "nomodeset" checked, same result. :( ... Downloaded the "Alt" install cd, burned it and tried again. (Think this how I made it work 
[05:33] <bandit5432> bjrohan, i dont know about that
[05:34] <skandranon> Install the base system Please insert the disc labeled: 'Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS _Lucid Lynx_ - Release i386 in the drive. This is what I put in.. no?
[05:34] <bjrohan> okay I have no problem just staying away from those games if that is indeed the problem
[05:34] <bjrohan> BRB bandit5432 I will go to windoze and run disk check
[05:34] <bjrohan> thank you for your input
[05:34] <pr0tocoldan> ppdev: user-space parallel port driver , forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X ,forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: eth0: no link during initialization ,ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[05:35] <urlin2u> skandranon, you run nomodeset in the kernel after installing to get to a low graphic boot then install the graphic drivers.
[05:35] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, ppdev: user-space parallel port driver , forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: irq 42 for MSI/MSI-X ,forcedeth 0000:00:0a.0: eth0: no link during initialization ,ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[05:35] <osmosis> how can I do window color inversions in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[05:35] <bandit5432> pr0tocoldan, re input ifconfig eth0 up
[05:36] <skandranon> urtin2u I have no idea how to do that. After installing, I only get a blank screen, and nothing changed that but the power button.
[05:36] <bandit5432> pr0tocoldan, sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:37] <urlin2u> skandranon, hit e at the grub menu navigate with the arrow keys to where it says splash and type in nomodeset before it.
[05:37] <pr0tocoldan> bandit5432, is this for the DVD rom?
[05:37] <bandit5432> no its for the ethernet error you just posted
[05:37] <urlin2u> skandranon, then boot I think with crtl-x
[05:38] <bandit5432> pr0tocoldan, i didnt catch the dvd error you had
[05:38] <skandranon> ok, so reinstall again (stuck half way though, again) then reboot and hit E while it is booting?
[05:38] <eHAPPY> Can i view where a NFS is mounted on a client from my server?
[05:38] <pr0tocoldan> bandit5432, I'm using wireless because the ethernet port female is broken. I'm trying to diagnose the problem with DVD rom is not working
[05:39] <bandit5432> pr0tocoldan, what is not working with the dvd?
[05:39] <urlin2u> skandranon, at the grub menu not booting make the change by adding nomodeset then boot with crtl-x. If your not getting the grub menu tap the left shift at powering on till you do
[05:39] <pr0tocoldan> bandit5432, WHen I insert a CD it doens't read it. It spins, makes noise, light flashes but does not read.
[05:40] <bandit5432> pr0tocoldan, what do you mean it does not read it?
[05:40] <pr0tocoldan> it does not show the content of it
[05:40] <bandit5432> pr0tocoldan, is it not being mounted/
[05:40] <skandranon> ok, thank you, will try that
[05:40] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, can you post the /var/log/dmesg file somewhere so I can look at it?
[05:40] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | skandranon
[05:41] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, let me try to do that.
[05:41] <pr0tocoldan> bandit5432, it doesnt mount it i guess. I cant see the content show up in computer.
[05:42] <bandit5432> i see that aschool is helping you i will let him
[05:42] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I recall a website that walked you through updating a linux install to make it useful (installing media players, updating repository lists, etc).  Is there such a site for Ubuntu?  My firefox is way out of date (3.x) and apt-get update doesn't update it.
[05:42] <aschool> bandit5432, feel free to jump in I was just trying to help someone while I was waiting for someone to help me with my cursor problem.
[05:43] <bandit5432> aschool, i am exhausted i will let you help :)
[05:43] <aschool> ok
[05:43] <semitones> dsnyders: it would be hard to make a site like that to fit everyone's definition of "useful," however it's really easy to install the up to date firefox ppa's
[05:45] <urlin2u> skandranon, in other words it is not the installs that will fix this but what you do with it so finish the install, kowing that reinstalling is not the fix and ask for help if this nomodeset addition to the kernel in the grub menu escapes you.
[05:46] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, https://sites.google.com/site/protocoldan/linux
[05:47] <dsnyders> semitones, they had their own definition.  Something to do with installing media players that were excluded because they might be illegal in certain countries.
[05:48] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, 2.991192 is where it talks abut the DVD-ROM
[05:48] <semitones> dsnyders: sounds like the codec needed for playing DVDs
[05:49] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, wrong sorry
[05:49] <semitones> !dvd > dsnyders if that's what you're after
[05:49] <dsnyders> semitones, perhaps.  Anyways, they walked you through adding a few repositories to allow that.  Livna? maybe?
[05:50] <semitones> dsnyders: i've never heard of it :(
[05:50] <semitones> dsnyders: firefox: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/firefox-8-officially-released/
[05:54] <dsnyders> semitones, I guess what I want to know is if there is a list of extra repositories with more up to date software than the official repositories (which seem to have really old versions of some software)?
[05:54] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, not sure what this is about? [    2.408894] ata2: port disabled. ignoring.
[05:54] <semitones> dsnyders: there are, but there isn't one mega repository with everything. You have to look for each program you want to risk separately
[05:55] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, is there a way to enable it?
[05:56] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, Is it disabled in the bios?
[05:56] <semitones> dsnyders: the ubuntu repos are pretty up to date compared to debian -- updated with every release, and tested
[05:56] <dsnyders> semitones, pity.  BTW, livna was a "super-repository" for Fedora.
[05:56] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, How did you install linux on it in the first place? Did the drive work under windows?
[05:56] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, I used a live USB, But the drive worked with linux before i format it the pc
[05:57] <semitones> dsnyders: sometimes the new software is held back because of compatibility problems -- so be careful when you install the ppas
[05:57] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, It must be a driver/module issue. I don't see that the drive has been loaded from the dmesg log.
[05:58] <dsnyders> !ppa
[05:59] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, is there a program out there that that helps locating drivers? The thing is that it worked before but the only drivers I can find on the HP website are for windows
[05:59] <{bosco}> ok so i have disabled root acess to my server via ssh but my other user now has acess to root what now?
[05:59] <t2mahesh> is it possible to filter http content before being received by web browser?
[06:00] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, I would boot from the live install and open a command prompt when the drive is working and type lsmod to list the drives loaded. Then compare that to when it is booted under your current install.
[06:00] <aschool> pr0tocoldan, Sorry I can't help more but I have to run.
[06:00] <iceroot> t2mahesh: proxy (squid) + content-filter (dansguardian)
[06:00] <pr0tocoldan> aschool, alright I'll give that a try. I really appreciate your help!
[06:01] <t2mahesh> iceroot: thanks
[06:03] <harsh343> how can i remove multiple option os from boot menu
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Hi, I'm having trouble adding a Microsoft Exchange e-mail account to Evolution.  It's telling me "The Exchange server is not compatible with Exchange Connector.  The server is running Exchange 5.5.  Exchange Connector supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only."  However, the server is running Exchange 2010, not 5.5.
[06:05] <{bosco}> ok so i have disabled root acess to my server via ssh but my other user now has acess to root what now?
[06:05] <tensorpudding> {bosco}, what do you mean, your other user now has access to root?
[06:06] <tensorpudding> {bosco}, users in the admin group will always be able to sudo unless you configure it otherwise
[06:07] <{bosco}> tensorpudding: i know this i have disabled ssh to root and now bosco has access to root what are the benifets to that other than it is being logged when he uses it ?
[06:07] <tensorpudding> {bosco}, what is the benefit to what?
[06:08] <wardensky> hi
[06:08] <{bosco}> tensorpudding: disabling root login via ssh and making bosco have root access>
[06:08] <wardensky> hi
[06:08] <tensorpudding> {bosco}, the advantage is that bots that hammer your ssh server trying to log in as root will always fail
[06:08] <tensorpudding> {bosco}, but it doesn't matter since root is locked from direct login by default in ubuntu
[06:09] <{bosco}> tensorpudding: not on ubuntu server
[06:09] <tensorpudding> they'd have to guess your username bosco, and then guess your password
[06:09] <{bosco}> right
[06:09] <{bosco}> ok
[06:09] <{bosco}> ust cant think this late for some reason lol tensorpudding any other reason
[06:09] <iceroot> is there a tool (by default) which can display the folders as a tree?
[06:09] <bjrohan> I have a dual boot laptop with Ubuntu and Windows, for quite some time I was able to access the windows partition where it was mounted /mnt/Windows now in nautlius that folder has a lock on it. I can see the files in nautlius, but can not change them. I can open them in read only. Any suggestions? I have run a check disk in WIndows andstill have the same issus
[06:09] <pnorman> !noroot
[06:11] <wardensky> anybody familiar with PXE?
[06:11] <{bosco}> then why not just change the port that root logs into on tensorpudding or is port scanning to easy for a bot to get by?
[06:11] <OliveGreen> Hi all. I am using gdm instead of lightgdm, but gdm is asking for my password every startup, how do I make it log in automatically?
[06:11] <tensorpudding> {bosco}, you can't have ssh listen on multiple ports
[06:11] <tensorpudding> and anyway i don't think it matters
[06:11] <wardensky> Can the PXE client and the PXE server not in the same subnet?
[06:11] <bjrohan> What allow me to view files and folders of an NTFS partition, to open files from that partition, but not save them? In Nautilus, the /mnt/Windows folder has a lock on it
[06:12] <bjrohan> What would allow me to view files and folders of an NTFS partition, to open files from that partition, but not save them? In Nautilus, the /mnt/Windows folder has a lock on it
[06:12] <pnorman> on systems that are setup with a root account you can't generally log in as ssh as root, you have to log in as another user and then su to root
[06:12] <{bosco}> tensorpudding: i know this but i can chnage the port default from 22 to ssh -p (whatever port i want to) @myserver.com
[06:12] <{bosco}> within sshd_config
[06:12] <tensorpudding> yes
[06:12] <tensorpudding> you can change the port, for the whole thing
[06:12] <tensorpudding> i don't think it'll really help
[06:13] <tensorpudding> it'd still be visible from a scan on all ports
[06:13] <tensorpudding> assuming your firewall isn't blocking it
[06:13] <sion> OliveGreen there should be an option to log in automatically for your username under "User Accounts" in your preferences
[06:13] <{bosco}> tensorpudding: im not a hacker so i am just trying to understand this it is 2 easy for them to figure out that i have changed it and what port it is ( i also use bastille)
[06:14] <OliveGreen> sion, Oh yeah. That's right. :-)
[06:14] <OliveGreen> sion, Thanks. :-)
[06:15] <sion> no problem OliveGreen :-)
[06:15] <bjrohan> What would allow me to view files and folders of an NTFS partition, to open files from that partition, but not save them? In Nautilus, the /mnt/Windows folder has a lock on it
[06:16] <sion> bjrohan you've repeated yourself a lot. Are you able to save files as root? It could be you have bad permissions...
[06:16] <silverskater> bjrohan: mount the partition as read only
[06:17] <Xenplex> that floodbot3 s absolutely annyoing -.-
[06:17] <sion> ^ are we being flooded by floodbots?
[06:17] <silverskater> guys, I have a strange but annoying bug, from time to time the control, alt or shift keys remain pressed in ubuntu 11.10
[06:17] <silverskater> any idea what's causing it?
[06:17] <haylo> ummm
[06:18] <sion> bjrohan you can also try forcing the partition to mount with read-write instead of read-only, also it could be a bad option of fstype, some (like the one I use at home) don't support read/write for NTFS, it's read-only
[06:20] <sion> silverskater, have you used those keys for any shortcut combinations? (Just guessing blindly)
[06:20] <bjrohan> sion I run gksu nautilus, and now when I do it won's show the folder in my Ubuntu home folder. They show up when I run Nautilus normally
[06:20] <silverskater> sure, I'm alt-tabbing all the time
[06:20] <{bosco}> ok here is my proposal i have setup an ubuntu server and i want to see if someone can hack it ? is someone up to the task>
[06:21] <{bosco}> just for fun
[06:21] <{bosco}> not to really mess anything up
[06:21] <silverskater> {bosco}:  what;s the fun in that?
[06:22] <silverskater> just joking :)
[06:23] <bjrohan> sion It will not let me write files as root
[06:23] <SushiDude> can some tell me where I can track the progress of a package getting updated
[06:23] <{bosco}> silverskater: i want to see how secure i made it is the reason if someone thinks they can hack it then ehy should write a file in the home dir on how they did it or just that they did it for proof?
[06:23] <SushiDude> It is take way to long to get Firefox 8 out
[06:24] <SushiDude> taking*
[06:24] <silverskater> {bosco}: like I said, it was a  joke, but I think you should post your question in a hacker room
[06:25] <silverskater> you might get more answers there
[06:25] <SushiDude> Can someone point me to the Ubuntu update system or something?
[06:26] <{bosco}> silverskater: what is a good hacker room
[06:26] <camper> "/join #hacker"
[06:26] <eHAPPY> Ill give it a shot
[06:28] <{bosco}> eHAPPY: you will just to prove you can do it not to mess it up ?
[06:28]  * w30 notices that most hacks today come from social engineering, not faults. How many logins (users) have you got?
[06:28] <eHAPPY> ofcourse
[06:28] <{bosco}> 1
[06:29] <silverskater> w30: while this is true, you cannot ignore other forms of hacking
[06:29] <silverskater> but let's hope that {bosco} has covered that area
[06:30] <w30> {bosco}: no problem there *smile*
[06:31] <eHAPPY> {bosco} PM me the info
[06:34] <silverskater> {bosco}: you could also try #noisebridge or #nethack or #london-hack-space
[06:36] <jonathan_> hey can anyone suggest a os for a eeepc ?
[06:36] <silverskater> I'll give it one more try, why do my ctrl, alt or shift seem to remain pressed from time to time in 11.10 ? (I know it's not the harware)
[06:40] <ProxXy> Anyone suggest why my netbook wont shutdown or restart when i click "restart" on ubuntu netbook edition, unless i actually use the power button?
[06:41] <mxed> ubuntu 11.10 workx very well with eeepc  i use it right now and sitting in xfce, gnome3  worx well but is abit slow
[06:41] <ProxXy> that is why i am affraid to try it, the speed may be slow and i would like it as fast as possible
[06:42] <jonathan_> how do i make my touchpad scrolling work? theres no option in dettings
[06:42] <jonathan_> setting*
[06:43] <mxed> put two fingers on the eeepc touchopad and scroll
[06:44] <ProxXy> Can anyone please help with my issue?
[06:44] <jonathan_> thanks mxed
[06:44] <jonathan_> lol
[06:44] <mxed> np heh
[06:44] <jonathan_> wow im special
[06:45] <html> HI YALL
[06:45] <jonathan_> is xubunt u ok for eeepc?
[06:45] <mxed> yeo
[06:45] <jonathan_> not to big imean
[06:45] <mxed> i love it
[06:46] <jonathan_> i see puppy has a os for eeepcs
[06:46] <mxed> it is fast and nice.. skip firefox and use chrome as browser
[06:46] <jonathan_> maybe my hardware is not as god as yours?
[06:47] <Your_Dog> Firefox and chrome is cool, but I still prefer Opera.
[06:47] <mxed> i have tested many dist s on my 901 but normal desktop ubuntu with xfce is the best one i have tested, even faster than  ubuntu 9
[06:48] <mxed> 11 ,10 xubuntu is very good
[06:48] <mxed> opera is nice  too
[06:51] <osmosis> how can I do window color inversions in ubuntu 11.10 ?
[06:51] <mxed> this is an capture of my xfce and eeepc http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5444/vcsy.png
[06:54] <Your_Dog> Damn.. I really hate imageshack these days..
[06:55] <mxed> why?
[06:55] <urlin2u> osmosis, not sure really but there is a color filter in compiz you might look there.
[06:55] <Bert_2> Hi, I'm still using 11.04 and I can't get empathy to connect to MSN anymore (kopete has the same problem, but that's due to a protocol change), does anyone know why this has happened ?
[06:56] <osmosis> urlin2u, used to work by default in the older ubuntus.  Not sure how to activate it in the new version.
[06:56] <Your_Dog> Well... whenever you forgot to log-in on their site (or visiting as an anonymous), once someone links you an image, youll always get this lovely "http://imageshack.us/img/blocked_login.jpg".
[06:56] <urlin2u> osmosis, was the old methos the super key and n
[06:57] <urlin2u> method*
[06:57] <osmosis> urlin2u, yes
[06:58] <mxed> Your_Dog, oh didnt knew that
[06:58] <urlin2u> osmosis, the keys are set different look at the compiz color filter I think thats the place
[06:58] <osmosis> urlin2u, i tried, cant make any sense of the config options
[06:59] <Your_Dog> yep, ever since they got hacked.. they went great lengths to security.. but that's just too far.. :\
[07:01] <jeff007> hello, i don't know what privileges for chroot directory ... for example : /etc/openvpn/jail ... chroot jail ... i create user and group for processus ... openvpn:openvpn ... after ls /etc/openvpn/jail  drwxr-xr-x   2 root root is it good? thank you for help
[07:02] <eherde> :q
[07:02] <eherde> :q:q
[07:03] <eherde> :q
[07:03] <nootnoot> unity is poo
[07:03] <nootnoot> that is all
[07:04] <KamenRiderCure> True
[07:04] <urlin2u> osmosis, I tried it but all I coild get is a restart of compiz every time even withchanging assigned keys.
[07:04] <nootnoot> wait... that isn't all... how do I revert to simple old vanilla-ish gnome?
[07:04] <urlin2u> could*
[07:05] <urlin2u> !nounity
[07:05] <ubunnooo> I acidently installed the 64 bit flash its just forever installing in the software center
[07:05] <ubunnooo> what proccess do I kill?
[07:05] <osmosis> is there a video of ubuntu 11.10 with gnome shell?
[07:05] <ubunnooo> and after I kill it what's the best way to remove?
[07:06] <nootnoot> ps aux | grep flash
[07:06] <nootnoot> killall $name_of_process
[07:06] <urlin2u> osmosis, probably all over youtube, at least the gnome shell it is pretty much the same on other didtros
[07:06] <urlin2u> distros*
[07:07] <nootnoot> urlin2u: installing gnome-shell
[07:07] <nootnoot> If I had a womb I would bare your babies.
[07:08] <KamenRiderCure> If anyone still has Ubuntu 9.10 just reinstall and you will be okay.
[07:08] <nootnoot> bear
[07:08] <nootnoot> rar
[07:09] <nootnoot> man I used to just use my keyboard to navigate GNOME now I don't know what to do
[07:09] <nootnoot> Unity is kind of a step backwards
[07:10] <KamenRiderCure> Revolt against UNITY now!
[07:10] <nootnoot> I used to be all like Alt-F1 -> -> \|/ preferences etc
[07:11] <nootnoot> now I am clicking the little cog thing and there still isn't what i wanted
[07:11] <nootnoot> wtf Mark Shuttleworth
[07:11] <sion> osmosis, I haven'
[07:11] <sion> *haven
[07:11] <sion> wtf keyboard
[07:12] <sion> *I haven't seen a video, but I use gnome-shell with 11.10 and it's great
[07:13] <sion> I think the idea of unity was nice but the implementation not so much, maybe after it's been worked on a bit it will be better, maybe it was added to the distro too soon
[07:13] <kronoman> hello
[07:13] <nootnoot> I think it is a good idea for things like touchpads
[07:13] <kronoman> when I use shotwell, it will alter my photos folder?
[07:13] <nootnoot> but not for things with keyboards
[07:13] <kronoman> I want just to see my photos, but not touch the order of my folders
[07:14] <urlin2u> sion, with the support dropped on gnome 2 before unity was implemented what should have been put in?
[07:14] <sion> nootnoot, probably. things where screen space is more important than efficiency of use. In the time I used it I found that things required too many more clicks to get done in unity compared to other DEs.
[07:15] <sion> urlin2u, good point, but I think if you had to compare, for example, Unity and Gnome3 that Gnome is the more polished one
[07:15] <nootnoot> true... frustrating
[07:15] <zizoo> Hey, can I get some help with PulseAudio? I set up a null sink with two loopbacks so I could set one to the mic and the other to the internal monitor, but pavucontrol won't let me set a loopback to a monitor. :(
[07:16] <Jordan_U> !ot | sion urlin2u nootnoot
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> Debating shells would be better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:16] <urlin2u> sion, when unity was started in natty gname 3 was pretty rough
[07:16] <sion> kronoman, you can drag & drop all your photos to shotwell, that way you can look at them all / organise by date / whatever regardless of the directory (folder) the photos are in
[07:16] <root__> HI can any one help me with a small problem ?
[07:16] <zizoo> Or is there a specific channel for PulseAudio (or general audio) questions I should be going to?
[07:17] <sion> thanks Jordan_U
[07:17] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, no problem the anti unity is hardly ever thought through just describing the obvious. :D
[07:17] <kronoman> sion, thanks
[07:17] <kronoman> and if I import them to the library? something bad will hapen? like moving the photos?
[07:17] <sion> kronoman, nope, afaik they will stay where they, like importing music to Rhythmbox
[07:18] <kronoman> sion : great, thanks!
[07:18] <sion> kronoman, wait that might not be true
[07:18] <kronoman> too late
[07:18] <kronoman> Im importing them
[07:18] <kronoman> :o
[07:18]  * kronoman keeps backup at hand
[07:19] <sion> zizoo, you might like to try #lau (Linux Audio Users) when they're active they're extremely helpful
[07:19] <zizoo> Any help with my pulseaudio problem? Also, @root__, what is your problem? Idk if I can help, but I will try.
[07:19] <uurrii1122> Hi please help with a probelm...
[07:19] <zizoo> Oh, thanks.
[07:19] <zizoo> sion
[07:19] <uurrii1122> every py script that i am running i get
[07:20] <uurrii1122> permission denied
[07:20] <uurrii1122> but i am login as a root !
[07:20] <lorddelta> Hi, I'm having trouble upgrading to Ubuntu, first it wasn't installing, now it downloaded packages but then stated that there is an error, and that the system may be broken. However it seems like the system is still functional, I can use the terminal, but I'd like any help so that I don't end up screwing this install over...thnx. Will put up pasts of my apt.log in a sec...
[07:20] <uurrii1122> what can be the problem ?
[07:20] <sion> kronoman, I have a feeling shotwell might organise imported photos by date...
[07:21] <lorddelta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/733935/
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> urlin2u: Are the scripts executable?
[07:22] <sion> kronoman, the organising by date is when it copies from a camera, if you already had the photos on your hard drive then nothing bad happens
[07:22] <lorddelta> Would appreciate help upgrading if anyone knows how to decipher said logfile.
[07:22] <urlin2u>  tonyyarusso what scripts?
[07:22] <kronoman> great, thakns
[07:23] <kronoman> thanks
[07:23] <kronoman> I use a year / month / photos scheme on my folders
[07:23] <kronoman> or
[07:23] <kronoman> I use a year / month / event / photos scheme on my folders
[07:23] <kronoman> ie 1984/dec/birthday/photos
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> urlin2u: Sorry, bad complete - was aiming for uurrii1122, but he quit
[07:24] <urlin2u> tonyyarusso, it happens :D
[07:24] <sln45> Real quick y'all, may I ask a question?
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> sln45: You just did.
[07:24] <sln45> tonyyarusso: So silly, you are
[07:24] <RamtinA> sln45:  ask your question :)
[07:25] <sln45> Does anybody know of some kind of swf codec to allow me to play .swf files?
[07:26] <Jordan_U> sln45: swf isn't a video format, it's a flash animation. .flv files are simple video files and can be played in any video player. For .swf files your best bet is to open it using a browser and the flash plugin.
[07:27] <sln45> Jordan_U: I know it's a flash extension. Is it not readable by video players?
[07:28] <sln45> Jordan_U: Basically, I'm playing with Miro and I wanted to see how effectively it could see Hulu videos. But it just downloaded this silly swift thing, it can't play it.
[07:29] <sln45> Jordan_U: Sorry, swf thing. I imagine the word "swift" when I read it.
[07:30] <sindile> where can i find deb package for pulseaudio 1.1 as only pulseaudio 1.0 is available via synaptic. im using ubuntu 11.10 64bit
[07:30] <sln45> Jordan_U: Chromium can't play the file, evidently. You still there?
[07:32] <bobweaver> sln45: I play my .swf in gnash swf player
[07:32] <sln45> bobweaver: Oh hey, you're still here.
[07:32] <sln45> bobweaver: Holy cannoli, it's been like 12 hours. Do you work?
[07:33] <bobweaver> sln45:  that is a little of topic but no
[07:33] <sln45> bobweaver: As if I've been so great at being on topic
[07:34] <sln45> bobweaver: In any case, thanks. I will take a look at it.
[07:35] <Captain_Mustard> first time using irssi
[07:35] <Captain_Mustard> oh hey look it works
[07:36] <sln45> bobweaver: Eh, as cool as Miro seems it's a little unusable for me. I guess I'm outtie
[07:37] <Starminn> How would I install a .deb without Ubuntu Software Center (as it's not working currently so I've been using the command line)? dpkg or something entirely different?
[07:37] <sln45> bobweaver: Oh, sorry. i don't know why I directed that comment at you specifically.
[07:37] <sln45> Anyways, g'bye y'all
[07:38]  * Starminn will need a *little* hand-holding depending on the difficulty. ;)
[07:38] <JZApples> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, why is the Update Manager trying to send me plugins for Gwibber when I don't have it installed???
[07:38] <Starminn> JZApples, Did you remove or purge it?
[07:38] <Bert_2> Hi, I'm still using 11.04 and I can't get empathy to connect to MSN anymore (kopete has the same problem, but that's due to a protocol change), does anyone know why this has happened ?
[07:38] <JZApples> Starminn, I think I uninstalled it via the Software Center.
[07:39] <Starminn> JZApples, When you uninstall through the Software Center it simply removes the core program, but many extra settings (profile data, logs, preferences, etc.) still remain.
[07:39] <Fudge> looking for a script or package to use that will give audio notifiactions when usb devices are plugged in/out
[07:39] <Starminn> JZApples, Try running "sudo apt-get purge gwibber"
[07:40] <Fudge> notifications
[07:41] <Starminn> JZApples, If it says it's not installed just "sudo apt-get install gwibber && sudo apt-get purge gwibber". Anyway, after the purge runs fine, just "sudo apt-get update" and check the updates again
[07:42] <robertzaccour> Is there a way to record in Gnome3 with ffmpeg successfully without messing up?
[07:43] <robertzaccour> webcam display and audio freezes horribly when going through the menusand zoom out effects
[07:43] <robertzaccour> *menus and
[07:43] <Starminn> robertzaccour, Actually isn't there a default keyboard shortcut?
[07:44] <robertzaccour> shortcut for what?
[07:44] <robertzaccour> I'm talking about webcam display and audio freeze-ups while recording with ffmpeg
[07:44] <robertzaccour> a keyboard shortcut for recording the desktop?
[07:44] <Starminn> robertzaccour, Oh. Forget that then. For some reason I thought you were talking about desktop, which is CTRL+SHIFT+ALT+R
[07:44] <JZApples> Starminn, thanks dawg
[07:45] <CaptainQuirk> HI
[07:45] <JZApples> Starminn, but they're still there
[07:45] <CaptainQuirk> I'm trying to make a new partition table on a USB HD but I get an error from gparted
[07:45] <JZApples> Starminn, i just had a similar issue with removing deluge
[07:45] <JZApples> Starminn, just wouldn't go away
[07:46] <robertzaccour> I've yet to find a distro or DE in Linux in which desktop recording workas well as it does in windows
[07:46] <Starminn> JZApples, Hmm... One sec. I don't use Gwibber anyway so I'll try to delete and reproduce it.
[07:46] <robertzaccour> still searching
[07:46] <Guest18833> Hi
[07:46] <Guest18833> anyone know if there is a fix for the new unity thing?
[07:47] <Guest18833> I'd sure like to use the classic unbuntu I had in 11.4
[07:47] <Starminn> !details | Guest18833
[07:47] <Pici> !notunity | Guest18833
[07:47] <Starminn> Guest18833 disregard the first ubottu message
[07:47] <CaptainQuirk> I get : input/output error during write on /dev/sdb
[07:47] <zagibu> sounds bad
[07:48] <OldSmurf> Bert_2, I believe you're hitting this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/papyon/+bug/887349
[07:48] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, the HD works alright
[07:48] <Guest18833> uuuummmmmm, yeahhh, I gave plenty of details....  I just upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10.....  11.04 had a selection for classic unbuntu.......  we're stuck with the unity crap in 11.10
[07:48] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: doesn't seem like it
[07:48] <CaptainQuirk> It mounts properly
[07:49] <Starminn> JZApples, I'm not being asked for upgrades. But then, it may have been fully upgraded anyway. Run "sudo apt-get upgrade" and what package names are in "The following packages will be upgraded:"?
[07:49] <JZApples> Starminn, it's also trying to install evolution.  I uninstalled evolution when I had 11.04.
[07:49] <Guest18833> so, basically, I have to tweak and settle with 2nd best or downgrade to 11.4 natty.......  that sucks
[07:49] <gluesniffmonkey> #opensolaris
[07:49] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, I tried with the HD unmounted but it wouldn't work
[07:49] <CaptainQuirk> so I tried to mount it just to check
[07:49] <JZApples> Starminn, evolution evolution-common evolution-plugins gconf-defaults-service gconf2 gconf2-common gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gnome-settings-daemon gwibber-service-facebook gwibber-service-identica gwibber-service-twitter indicator-session libevolution
[07:49] <JZApples>   libgconf2-4 libmodplug1 libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libtorrent-rasterbar6 pulseaudio pulseaudio-dbg pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-esound-compat-dbg pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-dbg
[07:49] <JZApples>   pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-gconf-dbg pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-jack-dbg pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-module-lirc-dbg pulseaudio-module-raop pulseaudio-module-raop-dbg pulseaudio-module-x11
[07:49] <FloodBot1> JZApples: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <Guest18833> maybe its time for a new distro......
[07:50] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: well, there might be some damaged sectors
[07:50] <causative> my launcher bar has turned into a solid black stripe
[07:50] <causative> 11.04
[07:50] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, how can I check that ?
[07:50] <causative> clicking on it does nothing
[07:50] <JZApples> Starminn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/733951/
[07:50] <causative> what can I do besides reboot?
[07:50] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: need a low-level disk check tool, like spinrite or similar
[07:50] <Guest18833> 6 weeks trying to get the upgrade to work just to find out that I don't even want it -- what a waste -- upgrades are supposed to be better, not worse!!!
[07:51] <ubidoobi2> Can someone tell me why this happens; after I installed Ubuntu 11.10 dual boot with W7 I have noticed a considerable drop in speed within the W7 environment.  I have noticed this before as well when I had an older RedHat version setup as a dual boot machine.
[07:51] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, before doing this, some details : my HD had 5 partitions ( silly ) : 3 linux and 2 ntfs
[07:51] <Starminn> JZApples, Person had the same problem here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/11-10-with-ubuntu1-and-gwibber-removed-still-getting-gwibber-updates-912325/ The fix was "sudo apt-get purge "gwibber.*""
[07:52] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, I managed to make the first operation in gparted : creating a new partition table
[07:52] <jgeli> anyone know how I can move the notification area of gnome shell to the right?
[07:52] <CaptainQuirk> I created two partitions, a big linux one and a small ntfs one
[07:52] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: having 5 partitions is not silly
[07:52] <Guest18833> so no true fixes?  Like a way to get the packages 11.4 used to do that?
[07:52] <causative> my launcher bar has gone black
[07:52] <causative> what can I try (other than reboot)?
[07:52] <Guest18833> ?
[07:53] <CaptainQuirk> I tried to apply the changes but It wouldn't and ask me to reboot, which I did
[07:53] <Starminn> JZApples, As for Evolution, I'd suggest something similar. "sudo apt-get purge evolution "evolution.*" "evolution-*"" should be overkill but fix it. :)
[07:53] <JZApples> Starminn, thanks man, i'm off to bed
[07:53] <CaptainQuirk> Now, I only have one big ntfs partition the size of the linux one I was trying to create
[07:53] <JZApples> have to read it tomorrow
[07:53] <Starminn> JZApples, Sure thing. :)
[07:53] <Guest18833> ?
[07:53] <CaptainQuirk> And the remaining 10go are unallocated
[07:54] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: you can create only the linux partition and leave space unallocated, then create the ntfs partition in windows
[07:54] <Guest18833> ?
[07:55] <Guest18833> ?
[07:55] <adam__> addomi
[07:55] <adam__> adam
[07:55] <Guest18833> ?
[07:56] <Pici> Guest18833: stop that
[07:56] <Guest18833> anyone?
[07:56] <Pici> Guest18833: Anyone what?
[07:56] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, doesn't work either : now I try to unmount and I get this
[07:56] <ubidoobi2> Can someone tell me why this happens; after I installed Ubuntu 11.10 dual boot with W7 I have noticed a considerable drop in speed within the W7 environment.  I have noticed this before as well when I had an older RedHat version setup as a dual boot machine. AMD x3 425 proc. 2.75 ghz w/ 5 gb ram
[07:56] <CaptainQuirk> Unable to unmount : daemon is inhibited
[07:56] <jgeli> anyone know how I can move the notification area of gnome shell to the right?
[07:56] <Guest18833> know how to get rid of this unity crap they forced on us in 11.10 and replace with the classic ubuntu desktop from 11.4
[07:56] <Pici> Guest18833: GNOME 2 is not supported by GNOME anymore and thus it is not present in 11.10.
[07:57] <Pici> Guest18833: ubottu already gave you instructions.
[07:57] <waterDrop> Hello, everyone.
[07:57] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: that's strange...is it automounted when you reboot?
[07:57] <Guest18833> no, he gave me instructions for second best with 1/3rd functionallity -- i've tried that already...
[07:57] <danube> hi waterDrop!
[07:57] <zagibu> Guest18833: just install gnome-shell
[07:57] <waterDrop> How is your day?
[07:57] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, yes
[07:58] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: then remove the entries from /etc/fstab....or is it an external drive?
[07:58] <Guest18833> tried that zagibu -- doesn't give you the ubuntu tweaks, shortcuts, or functionality    i will downgrade before I go that route
[07:58] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, it's an external drive yes
[07:58] <zagibu> Guest18833: well, then switch to a distro that fits you better
[07:59] <danube> sorry to hear that, Guest18833
[07:59] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: can't you eject it via the GUI?
[07:59] <CaptainQuirk> nope
[07:59] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, the message originated from a gui attempt
[07:59] <CaptainQuirk> I didn't try the command line
[07:59] <Guest50564> can any1 help me increase the screen resolution?
[07:59] <zagibu> what if you use the force parameter with umount?
[07:59] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, I'll try that
[08:00] <Guest18833> if that's the general attitude at Ubuntu, then yo will lose about 30-40% of your users.  a LOT of us are really burnt by this crap...  just google "how to remove unity from ubuntu 11.10".....  bad move if you want to keep subscriber base......
[08:00] <Guest50564> ?????????????any1?
[08:01] <red2kic> Guest18833: You have choices. If you don't like what Ubuntu is doing, then you can test-drive different distro. Isn't that why you're using linux? Freedom.
[08:01] <zagibu> Guest50564: install drivers, google for ubuntu restricted drivers
[08:02] <ubidoobi2> Can someone tell me why this happens; after I installed Ubuntu 11.10 dual boot with W7 I have noticed a considerable drop in speed within the W7 environment.  I have noticed this before as well when I had an older RedHat version setup as a dual boot machine. AMD x3 425 proc. 2.75 ghz w/ 5 gb ram
[08:02] <Guest18833> what freedom?  Freedom means NOT being forced to something WORSE than what I had.... Ubuntu 11.4 was great....  Yall have wrecked it with this unity crap....  FREEDOM would be having a way to add the parts of 11.4 that made that happen to 11.10 with a simple command line...
[08:03] <Guest18833> keep in mind I speak for MANY that have used this distro for YEARS..  see tomsbuntu.com and many others for 1000's of complaints about this
[08:03] <Pici> Guest18833: Mind your attitude here. We are are all volunteers here.
[08:03] <rogie> kk
[08:03] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, I unmounted the drive but gparted is still issuing the same error message
[08:04] <Guest18833> volunteers understood -- but a total overhaul with no fallback?
[08:04] <jgeli> Guest18833: I do see your point, but please bear in mind that you are using a free distro without warranty or expectations
[08:04] <zagibu> Gues18833: only users in here, no canonical dudes
[08:04] <Starminn> Guest18833, None of us have any say in what they decide, so the "general attitude" of not caring should be expected. ;)
[08:04] <Guest18833> again, google for THOUSANDS of complaints.......
[08:04] <Starminn> Guest18833: That's not really an Ubuntu decision. That's everyone's no longer catering to the old desktop. Including GNOME.
[08:04] <Pici> Guest18833: again. If you didn't have Unity, you'd have GNOME 3.
[08:04] <jgeli> Guest18833: Instead of complaining help make it better and stop whining
[08:05] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: i'm running out of ideas...you might want to try writing /dev/zero to your device with dd for a few seconds, to remove the partition table
[08:05] <ubidoobi2> Can someone tell me why this happens; after I installed Ubuntu 11.10 dual boot with W7 I have noticed a considerable drop in speed within the W7 environment.  I have noticed this before as well when I had an older RedHat version setup as a dual boot machine. AMD x3 425 proc. 2.75 ghz w/ 5 gb ram
[08:05] <Starminn> Guest18833, Unfortunately, GNOME Shell and Unity are very new so you should expect not to have all the same customization options of the old way that were developed over MANY years
[08:05] <red2kic> Guest18833: You said YEARS. You should be quite understanding of how things usually work.
[08:05] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, I'm not sure of what you are talking about
[08:06] <jgeli> ubidoobi2: it shouldn't. faster is a relative term so until you measure response time before and after Ubuntu install then its relative
[08:06] <Guest18833> UUMMMM, IT WAS BETTER --- the idea with improvement is to make it BETTER, not WORSE........  This was a DRASTIC FORCED CHANGE from 1 release to the next.........  with no fall back or choice.....
[08:06] <zagibu> you can low-level write directly to devices with dd
[08:06] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: this way, you can erase the partition table, because it is stored in the first bytes of the disk
[08:06] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, what does it mean writing /dev/zero ?
[08:07] <CaptainQuirk> you mean writing inside the first sector then ?
[08:07] <ubidoobi2> jgeli: i think it has to do with the hd space time continuum. lol ... i just feel it's slower. then ... perhaps it is because i had windows tweaked pretty good before the installation ... not sure .
[08:07] <jgeli> Guest18833: can you please take your whining to the #Ubuntu-offtopic and leave this channel open
[08:07] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: the command is dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/whatever, but make EXTRA SURE you are using the proper "whatever", or a stream of tears will erupt from your eyes...and you can ctrl+c the command after a few seconds, should be enough to erase the partition table
[08:08] <Guest18833> NO -- I am speaking for THOUSANDS of VERY DISSAPOINTED LONG TERM USERS
[08:08] <red2kic> Guest18833: That have nothing to do with Ubuntu. Gnome wanted to abandon Gnome2 and start writing Gnome3 from scratch. Ubuntu wish to preserve GTK2 and decided to go with a different direction. We don't sit and plan on upsetting everyone. What upsets everybody is CHANGES. Changes are inevitable.
[08:08] <Starminn> Guest18833, Tell some people who can do something about it -- or better yet, do it yourself.
[08:09] <elky> Guest18833, you've been asked nicely to take this to a more appropriate place. right now you're disrupting the technical support channel
[08:09] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, sounds pretty risky to me ...
[08:09] <JohnTeddy> How do I boot into grub from 11.10?
[08:09] <JohnTeddy> It used to be tab key/down key together or something
[08:09] <jgeli> #Ubuntu-offtopic please. You can start helping Guest18833 by following the rules
[08:09] <JohnTeddy> That isn't working
[08:09] <Guest18833> ???  I thought telling someone who could do something about it was why I was here?....
[08:09] <auronandace> Guest18833: the gnome foundation stopped supporting gnome2, deal with it. use another desktop environment that you like (i enjoy xfce best)
[08:09] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: it is...if you get the wrong device, you are screwed
[08:09] <Starminn> Guest18833, This is general support. not development.
[08:10] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: because it directly writes zeroes on the device, destroying all data that might be there
[08:10] <Chimera> do you guys know of an irc channel where i can get some hepl with ldap client authentication?
[08:10] <zagibu> maybe ##linux can help?
[08:11] <Guest18833> hmmmm  even so, seems like they could have left it in and just put a note saying "unsupported"........
[08:11] <Myrtti> please move the discussion about Unity vs Gnome3 vs Gnome2 to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:11] <elky> Guest18833, i suggest if you want to contact the developers that you find appropriate discussion lists at lists.ubuntu.com for that. I recommend you don't use caps, or swear, and please don't hijack other threads.
[08:11] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, I don't really understand the example command you give
[08:12] <Guest18833> I didn't hijack anything
[08:12] <elky> Guest18833, yet. i'm recommending you don't start.
[08:12] <zapper_> i have a problem with my laptop and I and completely lost
[08:12] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, what is the if part ?
[08:12] <elky> zapper_, if you explain your problem then people will know whether they can help or not
[08:12] <Guest18833> o ok -- good advice -- you don't get too many favorable responses that way...  thx
[08:12] <zapper_> it randomly freezes on boot
[08:13] <zapper_> sometimes it would boot correctly
[08:13] <zapper_> others it would boot to desktop withou loading the nvidia drivers
[08:13] <zagibu> if is input file...it means the source of the data for the dd command
[08:13] <Evilkiss> I need help, i don't have sound on rhythmbox, banshee, totem player, but i have sound on xbmc, vlc, youtube
[08:13] <Evilkiss> what can be wrong/
[08:13] <zapper_> and sometimes it would simply just freeze at startup
[08:13] <lexflex> hello all
[08:13] <zapper_> it happened to me on natty, but i have freshly installed oneiric and it continues to o the same
[08:13] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, and /dev/zero is an empty container, is that it ?
[08:13] <zagibu> if you set if=/dev/zero, it will use a constant stream of zeroes as input file
[08:14] <elky> zapper_, what does the screen look like when it's freezing?
[08:14] <CaptainQuirk> ok ... well, I only have to HD, and I think I will try that
[08:14] <CaptainQuirk> gparted gives me the name quite unmistakebly
[08:14] <lexflex> I have a strange issue: I connected external tv via HDMI. works well, even with audio. however, strangely the active window always is very dark (??)
[08:14] <zapper_> it stays blue (im using kubuntu) with no text
[08:15] <CaptainQuirk> in my case it would be dd if="/dev/zero" of="/dev/sdb"
[08:15] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: without the quotes, yes
[08:15] <zapper_> i tryed entering in recovery mode when it freezes, but it just freezes while starting recovery too
[08:15] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, But maybe I'm supposed to indicate the partition in the of ?
[08:15] <lexflex> Even this chat window is dark when i am writing. when i switch to terminal with alt-tab, then this chat window is bright in the background. wtf?
[08:15] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: not if you want to erase the partition table
[08:15] <CaptainQuirk> ok
[08:16] <CaptainQuirk> then I'll be able to create a new one with gparted, right ?
[08:16] <zapper_> theonly difference being that on recovery mode it starts showing text until it reaches something related to the chipset (but its not an error though)
[08:16] <zapper_> then it just freezes
[08:16] <CaptainQuirk> zapper_, have you tested your ram memory ?
[08:16] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: that's the goal
[08:17] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, I'll try that, thanks
[08:17] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: if it works...we'll see
[08:17] <zapper_> CaptainQuirk: no
[08:17] <CaptainQuirk> zapper_, I'm no specialist, but maybe you can try that with a live cd
[08:17] <CaptainQuirk> If you have an error, you'll see it from the start
[08:18] <zapper_> CaptainQuirk: all the times i booted from a live cd it worked just fine
[08:18] <Evilkiss> Is nobody help me?
[08:18] <volition_> Hello all
[08:19] <volition_> how can i remove various os from boot time
[08:19] <[Sanyi]> volition_, edit grub.cfg
[08:19] <volition_> how ?
[08:20] <auronandace> [Sanyi]: that file shouldn't be edited directly
[08:20] <[Sanyi]> why?
[08:20] <[Sanyi]> :P
[08:20] <CaptainQuirk> zapper, I got no other ideas, sorry
[08:20] <[Sanyi]> i only edit directly, works perfect
[08:20] <[Sanyi]> :)
[08:20] <auronandace> volition_: you are meant to edit the files in /etc/grub.d/ and then run sudo update-grub
[08:20] <flopex> hi everyone, I hope someone can help me with a problem. For some reason whenever I unplug and plug my laptop charger my computer slows down, CPU usuage goes to 100 percent for no aparent reason. Any suggestions on how to fix this problem?
[08:21] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, the partition table has been erased but gparted stilll won't create the new partitions
[08:21] <volition_> I am installing ubuntu 11.10, ubuntu 10.04 and windows 7, now when i start my system  at boot time these options occur not i want to remove ubuntu 10.04 from boot time
[08:21] <CaptainQuirk> still input/output error
[08:21] <volition_> now*
[08:21] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: that sounds really bad
[08:22] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, In gparted, I have a warning notice on the allocated space saying "unrecognized label"
[08:22] <auronandace> [Sanyi]: grub.cfg is generated by update-grub. if you edit it directly your changes will be lost every time grub updates
[08:22] <CaptainQuirk> in the information window
[08:23] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: I'm kind of out of ideas...except you might want to try to remove it from the enclosure and connect it internally, this will avoid the automount
[08:23] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, enclosure ?
[08:24] <CaptainQuirk> oh, you mean, opening it
[08:24] <CaptainQuirk> Well, pretty risky too !
[08:24] <volition_> auronandace,  this is the ouput of this command http://pastebin.com/3V1CZxEW
[08:24] <volition_> http://pastebin.com/3V1CZxEW
[08:24] <volition_> ls /etc/grub.d/
[08:25] <auronandace> volition_: why do you want to remove 10.04 from grub?
[08:26] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: as I said, I'm out of other ideas
[08:26] <zagibu> or did you try fdisk?
[08:26] <zagibu> it's the partition tool for the command line
[08:27] <saboo> haha
[08:27] <volition_> auronandace, Actually i have more than 4 os installed in my system, and now i want to remove the names of 2 os
[08:27] <volition_> from boot time
[08:27] <flopex> hi everyone, I hope someone can help me with a problem. For some reason whenever I unplug and plug my laptop charger my computer slows down, CPU usuage goes to 100 percent for no aparent reason. Any suggestions on how to fix this problem?
[08:27] <CChungryGirl> hi can i get some help related with ubuntu assistance?
[08:27] <volition_> actually those 2 os are not  working properly
[08:28] <auronandace> volition_: why just the names? don't you want to delete their partitions to recover the diskspace?
[08:28] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, well, rebooting without the HD plugged in seemed to have done the trick
[08:28] <CChungryGirl> i want to resize a partition with ubuntu  but i don't how do it.. are there some program like partition magic?
[08:28] <CaptainQuirk> It didn't automount on pluging
[08:28] <CaptainQuirk> CChungryGirl, gparted
[08:28] <zagibu> CaptainQuirk: ah, cool, now does gparted work?
[08:29] <chrfle> Hello everyone, I have a problem with the backlight in ubuntu 11.10 with my Samsung x120 laptop.... For some reason it changes by itself every now and then, and when it does the entire system freeze for about 30 seconds.. Any suggestions?
[08:29] <volition_> auronandace, if possible then sure can u please explain me how
[08:29] <volition_> ?
[08:29] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, well, it doesn't crash right from the start, so a good sign I bet
[08:29] <CChungryGirl> CaptainQuirk where can i get gparted? can i used without rebooting?
[08:29] <zagibu> :)
[08:29] <CChungryGirl> well in graphic mode? lol
[08:30] <auronandace> volition_: use gparted, you should be able to tell which partition has which os on it
[08:30] <CaptainQuirk> CChungryGirl, what version of ubuntu do you have ?
[08:30] <Nickymol> good morning fellows
[08:30] <Nickymol> wait let me rage for a bit now : !$!%!#@%!@#%!@#@!%$!@# what make me do this ? Ati 3d support -> ubuntu 11.10
[08:30] <rubygloom> morning
[08:30] <volition_> auronandace, i think this is more complicated and i have no much time for that so please tell me how to delete the name only
[08:30] <CChungryGirl> CaptainQuirk  10.04
[08:31] <CaptainQuirk> CChungryGirl, never used the software center ?
[08:31] <Nickymol> can any body tell me if ATI mobility radeon hd 5650 is supported at all in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[08:31] <auronandace> volition_: i hope somebody else can help you (i think it is a waste just to delete the name)
[08:31] <CChungryGirl> mmm is first time that im using ubuntu but i think where is it
[08:31] <CChungryGirl> let me see thanks
[08:31] <Nickymol> 11.04 my card works fine with full 3d support in 11.10 is broken like hell
[08:31] <auronandace> volition_: grub would re-detect them every time it updates
[08:33] <flopex> Nickymol: are you using gnome?
[08:33] <Nickymol> yes
[08:34] <Nickymol> this guide > wiki.cchtml.com works fine on ubuntu 11.04 but on 11.10 i get errors like cant find device under device section PCIBUS0@1:0:1..... etc.
[08:34] <Nickymol> that error is from startx
[08:34] <CaptainQuirk> zagibu, Two new shiny partitions one ext3, one ntfs, up and running, from what I can tell
[08:34] <CaptainQuirk> thanks for the help
[08:35] <flopex> Nickymol: have you tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/62808/ati-incompatible-with-gnome-shell
[08:36] <Nickymol> done that execlly
[08:36] <Nickymol> that guide is from wiki.cchtml.com
[08:36] <Nickymol> @ flopex
[08:36] <Nickymol> my xorg.conf cant find my device under device section on PCIBUS:0@1.... etc. and the EE message says : Remove screen could not find screen at 0.0
[08:38] <Nickymol> Yes, right now Gnome Shell is not compatible with the proprietary ATI driver. This issue has been reported:
[08:38] <Nickymol> Thats easy gnome + ati = fail
[08:39] <volition_> auronandace, what can  i do please help me
[08:39] <volition_> this is my office system and i want to remove all those os from my system
[08:39] <volition_> which is not workin
[08:40] <volition_> auronandace, i i want to remove all those stuffs how is it possible like name and partitions also
[08:41] <volition_> auronandace, there ?
[08:42] <auronandace> volition_: use gparted
[08:43] <volition_> sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:43] <volition_> where auronandace ?
[08:43] <flopex> Nickymol: look under /var/log/Xorg.0.log and try and find your ATI video card
[08:43] <volition_> I am newbie in ubuntu so i don't no the various commands auronan
[08:43] <volition_> auronandace,
[08:43] <auronandace> volition_: would probably be best to use it from a livecd (i tend to use the partedmagic livecd)
[08:44] <volition_> auronandace, i have an live cd also
[08:44] <volition_> now what nexty
[08:44] <volition_> ?
[08:45] <auronandace> volition_: boot into it and then run gparted from it
[08:46] <FxIII> hi all
[08:46] <volition_> auronandace, wait now i am online on my other system and continue this job
[08:46] <volition_> going to run live cd in this system
[08:46] <FxIII> i have an ubuntu on my thimb drive, is it possible to use it to install ubuntu in a computer when i boot with that thumb?
[08:47] <auronandace> FxIII: yes
[08:47] <FxIII> in other words is it possible to use it as ti were the live that runs from de CD?
[08:47] <auronandace> !usb | FxIII
[08:47] <RocAltair> i installed ubuntu on a pertable disk,i want to start from it in virtualbox.is there good idea?
[08:48] <FxIII> auronandace: in my thumb drive there is a normal ubuntu with a /home partition and all
[08:48] <auronandace> FxIII: so you have a persistant install then
[08:48] <harsh343> auronandace, hello i m here now
[08:48] <FxIII> auronandace: yes. and i want to know if installing a package i can get the icon i find on the live
[08:48] <auronandace> harsh343: hi
[08:49] <conntrack> "solid, solid as a rock..."
[08:49] <auronandace> FxIII: icon? not following you...
[08:49] <flopex> RocAltair: in virtualbox there should be a wizard that helps you choose the installation source for the OS you are trying to install
[08:49] <harsh343> i use ubuntu 11.10 cd, after insert these cd 2 options occur try and live where i click ?
[08:50] <auronandace> FxIII: the installer?
[08:50] <auronandace> harsh343: try
[08:50] <harsh343> ok
[08:50] <FxIII> auronandace: yes
[08:50] <auronandace> FxIII: i think you can get it from the repos
[08:50] <harsh343> what next same screen appears after click try
[08:51] <FxIII> I dont know how to find it auronandace
[08:51]  * phlak_user is back
[08:51] <auronandace> harsh343: are you booting from the livecd?
[08:51] <harsh343> auronandace, i have an ubuntu 11.10 cd, and i am using this
[08:51] <auronandace> !info ubiquity | FxIII
[08:51] <harsh343> i donot no wheather live or not
[08:52] <FxIII> ok
[08:52] <Nickymol> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[08:52] <auronandace> harsh343: and the option on it is try ubuntu before installing?
[08:53] <FxIII> so if i install ubiquity i can use that thub to install the live?
[08:53] <harsh343> auronandace, yes
[08:53] <auronandace> harsh343: select it and press enter (you don't use the mouse on that screen)
[08:53] <auronandace> FxIII: i think so yes
[08:54] <harsh343> auronandace, i click on try but i am able to use mouse
[08:54] <harsh343> here
[08:54] <auronandace> harsh343: you've completely lost me
[08:55] <auronandace> harsh343: it isn't hard to boot into a livecd
[08:55] <auronandace> harsh343: did you install ubuntu on that system yourself?
[08:56] <harsh343> auronandace, see I am using ubuntu 11.10 CD, after inserting this CD mainly 2 options occur Try and install, when i click on try thenafter same screen appears what i am using after installation, and also an option installation occur in under the try ubuntu
[08:56] <FxIII> Ok i'm tring
[08:56] <harsh343> auronandace, yes
[08:57] <FxIII> I will say you if it works :D
[08:57] <auronandace> harsh343: are you at the desktop now? (booted up the livecd to the desktop)
[08:57] <harsh343> auronandace, yes
[08:57] <auronandace> harsh343: find and run gparted
[08:58] <harsh343> auronandace, but i do not found any option for gparted
[08:58] <auronandace> harsh343: then i can't help you (i don't use unity)
[08:59] <harsh343> auronandace, ok
[08:59] <harsh343> thanks now i am leave i am trying from google
[08:59] <auronandace> harsh343: like i said, i find it easier to use partedmagic livecd
[08:59] <flopex> harsh343: gparted isn't installed in the live cd.
[09:00] <harsh343> flopex, then ?
[09:00] <auronandace> flopex: ah, that would be the problem :)
[09:00] <auronandace> +1 to partedmagic
[09:01] <zagibu> you can also download bootable gparted cds
[09:01] <dr_willis> or just install gparted
[09:01] <Gskellig> does anybody know how to get thumbnail support for RAW image files? (specifically nikon .NEF)
[09:02] <harsh343> dr_willis, not able to install through sudo install gparted
[09:03] <zagibu> that's no surprise
[09:03] <zagibu> because it's not how you install software
[09:03] <dr_willis> odd. i installed gparted in the past.
[09:03] <dr_willis> when bootrd to live cd
[09:05] <chroot> how can i play a iso file in ubuntu?
[09:05] <chroot> the iso file is on my harddisk
[09:05] <chroot> the iso file is a vedio  and some other docments
[09:06] <TehDGM> chroot: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[09:06] <elw3> an iso of what ?
[09:06] <TehDGM> or even better: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[09:06] <flopex> Gskellig: trye gnome-raw-thumbnailer
[09:06] <Gskellig> chroot, sudo mount -o loop example.iso /media/example
[09:06] <zagibu> harsh343: try sudo apt-get install gparted
[09:07] <Gskellig> flopex, i tried that, doesn't work, but i found another guide that includes that and another tool
[09:07] <Gskellig> ufraw
[09:07] <dr_willis> chroot:  vlc foo.iso   may work
[09:10] <flopex> Gskellig: what about http://gitorious.org/dcraw-thumbnailer
[09:10] <janisozaur> I've changed my /etc/hosts, how can I reload without resetting the computer?
[09:11] <Gskellig> flopex, I just used this guide: https://vdimic.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/nef-files-preview-ubuntu/
[09:11] <Gskellig> I'm pretty sure it will work, but I have to go now
[09:11] <Gskellig> but I bookmarked the link you sent me, thanks
[09:12] <chroot> Gskellig, thank you , it works, amazing.
[09:13]  * phlak_user just installed ff 8.0
[09:13] <chroot> dr_willis, vlc foo.iso isn't work, but Gskellig's working.
[09:13] <Gskellig> chroot, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso <--- that link tells you how to mount/unmount
[09:13] <flopex> chroot: what does the iso contain?
[09:13] <Gskellig> and mount for r-rw if you need to write to it
[09:15] <chroot> Gskellig, i can mount and umount ,  for i got a vedio that is made into iso , so i want to play it ,  finally, i found you!
[09:15] <chroot> flopex, i think my problem is gone. thank you.
[09:15] <CaptainQuirk> How can I have the rights to write to a usb hard drive ?
[09:16] <CaptainQuirk> is it by creating a folder named like the device and owning it ?
[09:17] <NoReGreT> is there any known issues about the battery reporting false info in 11.10 ?
[09:18] <auronandace> CaptainQuirk: i didn't have to do anything with my usb harddrive, it mounts just like any other removable media (with full rw)
[09:19] <jianchen> #python
[09:19] <CaptainQuirk> auronandace, well, it worked like this for me too but I created a new partition table and the partition is mounted as root
[09:19] <CaptainQuirk> well, one of the two partitions
[09:20] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: so change ownership
[09:21] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user, can I change it with the device mounted or should I unmount and change it on the directory ?
[09:21] <CaptainQuirk> so that it is persistent
[09:22] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: unmount it, change the ownership of the mount-point and mount it back
[09:23] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: or better still, make your user a member of the plugdev group
[09:23] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user : I haven't created any mount-point for now. The prerequisite is that it bear the label of the partition, right ?
[09:24] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: how are you mounting it without one? anyways, it doesnt matter what it is called
[09:24] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user, since it mounts automatically throuh usb, how can it now where to mount ?
[09:25] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user, plus from what I can see in terms of rights on the device, write operation isn't allowed for group members
[09:25] <CaptainQuirk> and the device doesn't belong to the plugdev group but to the root group
[09:25] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: automount generally creates a mountpoint in /media
[09:26] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user, exactly, but I think I need to use the label of the partition for it to mount where I want it to
[09:27] <lapion> hello, all of a sudden I cannot connect with my msn account using empathy, any one else having these problems ?
[09:27] <phlak_user> lapion: do you have telepathy-butterfly installed?
[09:28] <laluls212> hii
[09:28] <laluls212> can anyone help me with ubuntu
[09:28] <lapion> yes phlak_user hence the reason I said all of a sudden
[09:28] <laluls212> ??
[09:28] <deej1976> ask: laluls212
[09:28] <deej1976> !ask | laluls212
[09:28] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: what makes you think that? you can always change the label to whatever you want
[09:29] <laluls212> how do i change the port number of http in ubuntu?
[09:29] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user : the point is, how can I tell the partition to mount at a mountpoint I'm owning ?
[09:29] <CaptainQuirk> laluls212, too vague a question for me
[09:30] <lapion> phlak_user, you can connect to your msn account ?
[09:30] <phlak_user> lapion: i dont have an msn account
[09:30] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: by adding an entry in fstab
[09:30] <phlak_user> !mount | CaptainQuirk
[09:31] <lapion> phlak_user, you don't even have hotmail accounts ?
[09:31] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user : you're right, I think I already did it for the previous partitions I think ..
[09:31] <phlak_user> lapion: whats hotmail?
[09:31] <sion> laluls212, are you asking in the context of running an http server or in the context of trying to access the internet through a proxy?
[09:31] <rykka> histo, any one know how to notify-send the standard output?
[09:31] <rykka> *hi all
[09:32] <TehDGM> PHLAK
[09:32] <TehDGM> woops
[09:32] <TehDGM> lapion: hotmail is not related to an MSN account, at all
[09:32] <lapion> phlak_user, it's what live mail used to be.. it's a handy catchall for spam
[09:32] <TehDGM> gmail :>
[09:32] <phlak_user> lapion: sorry; havent got a clue about hot or cold mail
[09:33] <lapion> TehDGM, you can use any hotmail account as an msn login
[09:33] <lapion> TehDGM, I also have gmail account..
[09:33] <phlak_user> lapion: and is this a ubuntu support issue? can you connect to your msn/hotmail account using some other client?
[09:33] <flopex> rykka: example notify-send Title "Body"
[09:34]  * lapion has yahoo-mail, aol-mail hotmail, gmail and then maybe even some.. but at least the first he continually checks.
[09:35] <fxn> I have an init script that launches a server just fine if invoked with sudo, but is not launching the service if the machine is rebooted, how could I debug what happens?
[09:35] <rigved> hello everyone. i am following this tutorial: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/all/practical-ubuntu-one-files-integration/. but the code for uploading files to the testing volume is not working. no file gets uploaded. can anyone help me?
[09:35] <CaptainQuirk> phlak_user, I created an entry in my fstab but I get an error saying : "only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on /media/Backup"
[09:35] <rykka> flopex, I know , notify-send "Playing" "$(mpc current)" but no playing song detail shows
[09:35] <deej1976> lapion: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/emesene-not-connecting-quick-fix/
[09:35] <lapion> phlak_user, yes until the past week empath could connect easilly..
[09:36] <lapion> let me check deej1976
[09:36] <zapper1> my laptop doesn't boot and when i checl the log file there is one line that says "Dazed and confused, but trying to continue"
[09:36] <deej1976> lapion: It's not a great fix for the faint hearted
[09:37] <zapper1> any ideas on what todo to fix it?
[09:38] <lapion> deej1976, this happens every so many months, I was just checking if anyone else was experiencing this..
[09:38] <rykka> flopex, I got the reason... I'm playing youtube not mpd...XD
[09:38] <deej1976> lapion: I'm using pidgin and that connects correctly still
[09:39] <rigved> where should i ask questions related to app development in ubuntu?
[09:39] <lapion> given the fact that it is a very common problem and googling for msn not connecting would probably find a gazilion hits most of which would be not related to current problems.. I prefer to ask in a location where I know I can get a current experience
[09:39] <deej1976> !ubuntu-dev
[09:39] <lapion> deej1976, ok..
[09:40] <lapion> deej1976, can you connect with multiple accounts ?
[09:40] <thechef> When Ubuntu comes for smartphones it will have GPU accelerated UI unlike Android which delayed this till ICS?
[09:40] <CaptainQuirk> Is it a good way to put "defaults" a the options in fstab since it means nouser
[09:40] <CaptainQuirk> that's probably the reason why only root can mount ?
[09:40] <deej1976> lapion: Have msn,yahoo,gtalk
[09:41] <erbo> Hmm, anyone tried using "deb http://user:pass@repourl.net/ /" in sources.list where the username is urlencoded due to containing an "@" ? Works well with curl cmdline but not in sources.list
[09:41] <rigved> deej1976: was that for me? ubuntu-dev is for the core developers, right? but i'll still check it.
[09:42] <deej1976> rigved: Yes, bot did know anyhing about it
[09:43] <flopex> erbo: try wrapping the url with quotes.
[09:43] <rigved> deej1976: ok. thanks. i'll check the official IRC list of channels on the net.
[09:44] <rigved> deej1976: got it. #ubuntu-app-devel. :)
[09:45] <CaptainQuirk> My usb HD mounts in the correct folder thanks to a line in my fstab, however, It cannot unmount
[09:45] <lapion> deej1976, I have  yahoo, gtalk , Aim , icq and 3 mss
[09:45] <lapion> s/mss/msn/
[09:46] <lapion> deej1976, pidgin is the best msn .. however empathy also does video, etc, etc.
[09:46] <deej1976> lapion: pidgin should be able to handle that lot, install and give it a try. It's been my default for years
[09:46] <CaptainQuirk> I would like to be able to mount the disk as the owner to be able to write to it. How can I do that ?
[09:47] <erbo> flopex: the complete url, like: deb "https:user%40bar.net:passwd@domain.org/" / ? (that didn't work)
[09:47] <lapion> deej1976, I have it however no msn-cam/voice...
[09:50] <CaptainQuirk> My folder has the following rights :
[09:50] <CaptainQuirk> drwxr-xr-x 2 leo leo 4096 2011-11-10 10:26 Backup
[09:51] <lapion> deej1976, do you have voice and video over im with pidgin ?
[09:51] <CaptainQuirk> The line I added in my fstab is taken into account when booting
[09:51] <deej1976> lapion: nope
[09:51] <CaptainQuirk> but the directory gets its ownership switched to root
[09:52] <deej1976> lapion: Would default to skype
[09:52] <CaptainQuirk> Consequence of which I can't unmount from the gui
[09:52] <CaptainQuirk> what's the matter ?
[09:52] <lapion> deej1976, I do, however many people do not understand or know enouch about computers to see the difference between skype and msn
[09:54] <lapion> CaptainQuirk, open a terminal and "man mount" then use / tpo search for The non-superuser mounts
[09:56] <mohan_> hi
[09:56] <Wisien> hi
[09:56] <phlak_user> CaptainQuirk: also you can use pmount
[09:56] <Wisien> anyone can recommend me an antivirus solution for ubuntu?
[09:56] <phlak_user> !info pmount | CaptainQuirk
[09:56] <mohan_> wisien i having difficulty with ubuntu
[09:56] <atruno> can you run dnsmasq as a dns server on a subnet using consumer grade comcast.net account ?
[09:57] <Wisien> difficulty?
[09:57] <mohan_> not able to open gmail and yahoomail
[09:57] <phlak_user> atruno: yes
[09:57] <thrillERboy> Hi Guys, Wubi doesn't show install inside windows option in my PC :/
[09:57] <lapion> CaptainQuirk, open a terminal and "man mount" then use / tpo search for The non-superuser mounts
[09:57] <Wisien> i use evolution works ok
[09:58] <atruno> phlak_user, thank you
[09:58] <mohan_> i'm trying to open webmail
[09:58] <lapion> CaptainQuirk, you have to add an option to allow all users to mount the specific fs
[09:58] <mohan_> gmail show cannot load
[09:58] <phlak_user> mohan_: do you have internet access?
[09:58] <mohan_> yes
[09:58] <Mitchell_> how can i limit my cpu speed? last time i edited a file so that it would never go over half, which file was it?
[09:59] <lapion> mohan_, check if you do not have capslock active..
[09:59] <phlak_user> mohan_: are you able to resolve dns
[09:59] <lapion> mohan_, then check if you have the correct keyboard layout..
[09:59] <mohan_> lapion: capslock is down
[09:59] <phlak_user> mohan_: for example; type dig www.gmail.com in a terminal ; it should return some ip addresses
[09:59] <mohan_> phlak_user: how do i do that
[09:59] <Wisien> who uses here antivirus for linux?
[10:00] <mohan_> phlak_user: it pings
[10:00] <mohan_> i'm able to open google.com
[10:00] <Mitchell_> Wisien: I dont. but i dont for windows either
[10:00] <lapion> mohan_, type the password in a text editor, then copy paste it into the password with CTRL-V
[10:00] <phlak_user> mohan_: are you behind a proxy?
[10:00] <mohan_> phlak_user: no
[10:00] <hroi> hi
[10:00] <mohan_> lapion: what pwd?
[10:01] <hroi> how can I use aptitude to see how much space a package takes?
[10:01] <hroi> or to get more detailed info
[10:01] <lapion> mohan_, with each account..
[10:01] <CaptainQuirk> lapion, here's my fstab line
[10:01] <CaptainQuirk> UUID=e568325d-f845-4006-a90f-294033881293 /media/Backup   ext3    rw,suid,user,dev,exec,auto,async	  0       2
[10:01] <Wisien> what is clamav
[10:01] <mohan_> phlak_user: you told something about dns, could you tell me how to do it?
[10:02] <mohan_> lapion: i have only one account
[10:02] <phlak_user> mohan_: can you pastebin the output of /etc/resolv.conf
[10:02] <Wisien> clam av
[10:02] <deej1976> !clamav
[10:02] <Wisien> !clamav
[10:02] <mohan_> phlak_user: doing it
[10:02] <phlak_user> !pastebinit! mohan_
[10:02] <phlak_user> !pastebinit | mohan_
[10:03] <NoReGreT> I'm on 11.10 64bit on an hp dv6 with dual GPUs (intel and AMD), i heard that there are issues with the amd drivers on 11.10..i tried the restricted drivers then removed them. In that case, how can I install the intel drivers? since the system info displays "unknown" for the driver in graphics, what can I do in this case ?
[10:04] <mohan_> ubottu: installing pastebin
[10:04] <deej1976> Wisien: clamav - anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface, used mostly on filesystems where microsoft clients store files.
[10:04] <Younder> NoReGreT, I am unaware of any problems with amd.
[10:04] <Wisien> deej:is it worth trying?
[10:04] <mohan_> phlak_user: /etc/resolv.conf returned command not found
[10:04] <phlak_user> mohan_:  cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:04] <deej1976> Wisien: Try for what purpose?
[10:05] <deej1976> Trying*
[10:05] <Younder> NoReGreT, perhaps you can enlighten me..
[10:05] <Wisien> securing ubuntu
[10:05] <Wisien> to make my systems virus free
[10:05] <Vustom> Where can I find the ubuntu logo that's on the toolbar so I can copy and it and use it to replace the Activities text in GNOME3?
[10:05] <mohan_> phlak_user: returned my nameservers
[10:05] <deej1976> Wisien: Which systems?
[10:06] <CaptainQuirk> Wisien, I think it will help you not to infect other OS
[10:06] <Younder> Wisien: You have found a unix virus?
[10:06] <Wisien> ubuntu with windows partiotion
[10:06] <CaptainQuirk> but as far as ubuntu is concerned, you don't need it
[10:06] <phlak_user> mohan_: ok; and what is the output of dig www.gmail.com
[10:06] <Younder> I know of 42 viruses for unix. But they are rare
[10:06] <lapion> mohan_, you have yahoo and gmail don't you ? so for each account you cn use copy-paste fuction to check if maybe you have the wrong password..
[10:07] <Wisien> what about standard firewall is it secure?
[10:07] <phlak_user> lapion: hes not able to reach the page
[10:07] <deej1976> Wisien: Your very unlikely to infect a Linux system from open a file on a windows partition
[10:07] <Younder> Wisien, ufw enable
[10:07] <CaptainQuirk> What is wrong with this fstab line ?
[10:07] <lapion> hmm... which provider ?
[10:07] <mohan_> phlak_user: many line output with ip address
[10:07] <CaptainQuirk> UUID=e568325d-f845-4006-a90f-294033881293 /media/Backup   ext3    rw,suid,user,dev,exec,auto,async   0       2
[10:07] <mohan_> lapion: when i tried with windows it works
[10:07] <TehDGM> i guess you could infect your wine partially, but it wouldnt be very effective
[10:07] <NoReGreT> Younder: after installing the restricted drivers, tried running the catalyst control center and got this, http://imgur.com/7o4m3 any ideas ?
[10:08] <CaptainQuirk> Do I need to set nodev, noexec and noauto ?
[10:08] <phlak_user> mohan_: ok good; so what happens when you type www.gmail.com
[10:08] <Younder> ufw actually has a really good standard setup
[10:08] <Wisien> thx
[10:08] <CaptainQuirk> It is said so in the manual but I don't really understand the whole thing
[10:08] <mohan_> phlak_user: now it works
[10:08] <coder_> I downloaded a gdm theme from gnome-look.org to change my login window theme,  can you tell how to apply it?
[10:09] <lapion> mohan_, and if you click on the mail link on the top of the google search frontpage ?
[10:09] <mohan_> phlak_user: may i know what was it
[10:09] <deej1976> Wisien: Use nmap and netstat to check for open ports.
[10:09] <Wisien> ok
[10:09] <phlak_user> mohan_: ok good; it mustve been an outage on your ISP end
[10:09] <mohan_> phlak_user & lapion: thank you very much for your time...:)
[10:10] <Wisien> how to close port?
[10:10] <thrillERboy> Hi, Shall I use Brasero Disc creator to create new bootable cd using ubuntu iso?
[10:10] <Younder> NoReGreT, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310619 might help
[10:10] <coder_> I downloaded a gdm theme from gnome-look.org to change my login window theme,  can you tell how to apply it?
[10:10] <deej1976> Wisien: See what service is running if not need shutdown or firewall off
[10:10] <henkye> hello   anyone using BURG ? & why ?
[10:10] <Younder> deej1976, get htop
[10:11] <phlak_user> Wisien: this might help -> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/security
[10:11] <thrillERboy> Previously created a cd from windows using ImgBurn it didn't create a bootable cd it seems :/
[10:11] <Wisien> complicated
[10:11] <deej1976> Younder?
[10:11] <perlsyntax> Anyone have use bestbuy connect prepaid with linux before?
[10:11] <phlak_user> coder_: if you're on 11.10 ; gdm isnt used anymore; its lightdm
[10:11] <perlsyntax> Just want to make sure it works before i get it.
[10:11] <Younder> deej1976, htop is a program for showing processes
[10:11] <NoReGreT> Younder: how is that relevant to my graphics driver issue ?
[10:12] <coder_> i am using 11.04 with classic phlak_user
[10:12] <phlak_user> perlsyntax: you can check if its listed in the dropdown of Mobile Broadband connections in Network Manager
[10:12] <phlak_user> coder_: ok
[10:12] <deej1976> Younder: Not going to help for open ports, netstat and nmap are better
[10:12] <Wisien> no root account in ubuntu?
[10:12] <Younder> NoReGreT, It isn't. It is relevant for Wisien's problem
[10:12] <TehDGM> there is, you just cant use it by default
[10:12] <henkye> Wisien: use sudo -s instead
[10:12] <perlsyntax> Phlak_user,I was asking if anyone use it and i want to know what the seeds are to:)
[10:13] <TehDGM> you can if you set it's password, but its not recommended here
[10:13] <lapion> Wisien, sudo -i
[10:13] <Ch4rAzZz> System crash when I safely remove usb drive on Ubuntu 11.10 3.0.0-12-generic - exists any "no-kernel-reinstall" solution?
[10:13] <phlak_user> coder_: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/change-gdm-theme-background-in-ubuntu.html
[10:13] <Younder> deej1976, UFW actually WILL do that
[10:13] <phlak_user> perlsyntax: seeds?
[10:13] <perlsyntax> speeds
[10:14] <phlak_user> perlsyntax: ok
[10:14] <deej1976> Younder: I know, I'm trying to point Wisien in the right directory
[10:14] <NoReGreT> Younder: and you tagged me..
[10:14] <Wisien> its ok
[10:14] <Wisien> is it possible to compile own kernel in ubuntu?
[10:14] <phlak_user> Wisien: yes
[10:15] <Wisien> any utility for this?
[10:15] <Younder> It is possible in any linux
[10:15] <perlsyntax> phlak_user,Nice thing it from best buy and got 3G speed:)
[10:15] <Younder> Wisien, www.kernel.org
[10:15] <StompinBroknGlas> Hi guys
[10:16] <Wisien> dowloading,thanks...
[10:16] <perlsyntax> plak,user Where would i fine information on it with networkmanger?
[10:17] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, no pleasantries please. just get right to the meat
[10:17] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, I'm having some trouble with sound manager
[10:18] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, have you checked the permissions. Per default you don't have permission to do sound
[10:19] <phlak_user> perlsyntax: click on edit connections - Mobile Broadband tab; add a new connection
[10:19] <anonissimus> I have a .tar inside a .tar is there a way to extract it in a single command?
[10:19] <coder_> phlak_user can I preview the login window without logging out or should I compulsorily log out to see the change?
[10:19] <StompinBroknGlas> But, it changed the settings, how did it change if I don't have permission
[10:19] <Younder> anonissimus, no you need 2
[10:20] <Nickymol> Hello guys can some body help me getting cpufreq working ?
[10:20] <phlak_user> coder_ methinks you should logout but i could be wrong
[10:20] <phlak_user> anonissimus: see here -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2778153/how-to-extract-nested-tar-gz-files-easily
[10:20] <Pooky5> hi guys, why i still don't get new version of firefox? I have ubuntu 11.10 and still nothing
[10:20] <miniuser> hello! anyone can help me with google maps? my fonts are horrible ...
[10:20] <StompinBroknGlas> Ok, how do add the permissions under 11.10
[10:20] <anonissimus> phlak_user: thnx
[10:20] <Younder> anonissimus, I use tar  xzvf <file>
[10:21] <coder_> phlak_user  gdm-tweaker only has limited themes, how do I import new themes manually?
[10:21] <phlak_user> Younder: he's looking for extracting nested tar files
[10:21] <phlak_user> coder_:  from gnome-look.org?
[10:21] <Younder> anonissimus that takes care of .tar.gz
[10:22] <coder_> but how?there is no option for adding new ones in the program phlak_user
[10:22] <phlak_user> coder_: to be able to change the GDM background / theme you must place the images (it seems the images must be .png or .jpg) into /usr/share/backgrounds/ and the themes into /usr/share/themes/ for GTK themes and /usr/share/icons/ for the icons
[10:22] <coder_> ohhh
[10:22] <Younder> phlak_user, I know , sort of, but it makes no sense
[10:23] <miguelaraujo> hi! I'm getting a lot of 404 not found with apt-get. For example: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages
[10:23] <miguelaraujo> what is happening?
[10:23] <miguelaraujo> some problem with the repos?
[10:23] <phlak_user> miguelaraujo: change the mirrors
[10:23] <Younder> phlak_user, why nest tar files?
[10:23] <phlak_user> Younder: some apps are packaged that way
[10:24] <Younder> phlak_user, none that I use..
[10:24] <phlak_user> Younder: so we learn something new ;)
[10:24] <miguelaraujo> I have changed the mirrors already
[10:24] <Nickymol> can any body give me a hand in cpufreq ?
[10:25] <Qualia> omfg. i just made the mistake of trying to install Emerald for a GTK2 theme
[10:25] <Qualia> there was a weird terminal install instruction
[10:26] <coder_> phlak_user where does GdmGreeterDesktop file belong to?and xml file?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> emerald is no longer developed in any way
[10:26] <Qualia> now i have unnecessary data on my harddisk which i cant find nor delete
[10:26] <Qualia> yeah thats the problem
[10:26] <phlak_user> miguelaraujo: if you type that path into a browser you can see that there is nothing called Packages; only Packages.gz and Packages.bz2 -> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/universe/binary-i386/
[10:26] <miguelaraujo> so I should change the path to Packages.gz ?
[10:26] <Qualia> what would you advise then ? I only want smooth transparent and compact window borders
[10:26] <Qualia> with some cool themes ^^
[10:27] <phlak_user> miguelaraujo: what are you trying to do?
[10:27] <Qualia> im not comfortable with default theme
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Qualia: the guys in #compiz may be able to advise
[10:27] <miguelaraujo> just trying to get all the repos available
[10:27] <phlak_user> coder_: havent got a clue
[10:27] <phlak_user> miguelaraujo: did you add that path by hand?
[10:27] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, I have added the my self to the audio, pulse, pulse-settings groups, do I have to do something else ?
[10:28] <miguelaraujo> nope, I've used the system preferences settings..
[10:28] <Younder>  StompinBroknGlas no, that should do
[10:29] <abem> I have the following error: the symbol 'grub_xputs' not found, this happened just after installation. What should I do?
[10:30] <phlak_user> miguelaraujo: just uncheck the universe repo and update
[10:30] <Younder> abem, install grub_xputs? (sudo apt-get install grub_xputs)
[10:30] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, do I have to re-loging or something ? the input Connector drop down box is still reverting to line-in
[10:30] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, No it should just work
[10:31] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, but in doubt reboot
[10:31] <StompinBroknGlas> Ok, I will be back later
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> abem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580752
[10:32] <abem> Younder: I was rebooting and landed on that screen, do i need to reboot with a cd?
[10:33] <Younder> abem: actually you should never hev to reboot
[10:33] <miguelaraujo> phlak_user: why do I get this error? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages
[10:34] <Younder> he requested URL /ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages was not found on this server.
[10:34] <phlak_user> miguelaraujo: because that file doesnt exist; i told you this
[10:34] <Younder> because that page doen't exist?
[10:35] <miguelaraujo> and why is that on the ubuntu configs then? it's a bug.. because I didn't manually edited the sources.list
[10:35] <phlak_user> miguelaraujo: ok you can file a bug report
[10:35] <Younder> miguelaraujo, no you made the  mistake
[10:36] <miguelaraujo> no Younder, I didn't changed anything on the sources.list
[10:36] <Younder> miguelaraujo, nor did I, and I don't get that problem
[10:37] <miguelaraujo> weird then, this is a fresh install of ubuntu
[10:37] <Younder> miguelaraujo, excuse me for being stupid, bud files don't just get edited...
[10:38] <miguelaraujo> what?
[10:41] <Qualia> WHY cant i join #enlightenment
[10:41] <Qualia> ffs
[10:41] <caesar_> having a huge issue installing RabbitVCS
[10:41] <caesar_> is it compatible with 11.10?
[10:42] <Younder> caesar_, http://wiki.rabbitvcs.org/wiki/install/ubuntu
[10:43] <caesar_> yea i followed that to a T
[10:43] <caesar_> give me errors left and right
[10:43] <caesar_> broken dependencies
[10:43] <caesar_> something or another
[10:44] <Younder> caesar_, I'll go out n a limb and say,NO, it is not compatible
[10:44] <NoReGreT> is there any known issues about the battery reporting false info in 11.10 ?
[10:45] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, back, it still doesn't let me change the input connector under sound settings,
[10:46] <Nickymol> any body with some knowledge about cpufreq scaling ?
[10:46] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, Sound still doesn't work, chucks!
[10:46] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, Well it worked for me
[10:46] <shya> 就没个说汉语到么
[10:47] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, Why do you want to change the input connector?
[10:47] <caesar_> I need a SVN
[10:48] <Qualia> I accidently right clicked on the window border --> use system borders
[10:48] <Qualia> not i cant get that cursor menu again
[10:48] <Qualia> how do i fix it ?
[10:48] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder,  Was testing the line-in, now I want to use my headset mic
[10:48] <caesar_> a GUI SVN.. can someone recommend one
[10:48] <Qualia> or simply tell me this
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> ...
[10:49] <deej1976> caesar_: rapidsvn, nautilas has extensions
[10:49] <Qualia> oh well
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> caesar_: http://www.automaticable.com/2008-09-15/easy-subversion-gui-for-nautilus-and-ubuntu/
[10:49] <Qualia> i found a better solution: using alt+m1 to carry the window. who needs the window border panel anyway
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> !info nautilus-script-collection-svn
[10:49] <Qualia> lolol
[10:50] <admiralshlorky> howdy folks, does anyone know of a good apache tutorial?
[10:50] <admiralshlorky> for ubuntu
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> admiralshlorky: tutorial in what way?
[10:51] <admiralshlorky> well, i have an old computer i'd like to set up as an apache server just to play around with
[10:51] <admiralshlorky> i don't really have any experience with apache or administering a webserver, but i figured this would be a good way to get my feet wet
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> admiralshlorky: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:51] <caesar_> ActionParsnip: sudo: aptitude: command not found
[10:51] <admiralshlorky> thanks!
[10:52] <mentoc> admiralshlorky, look into the tasksel way of installing a lamp server
[10:52] <caesar_> that tut is from 2008...
[10:52] <strangeseraph> hi
[10:52] <admiralshlorky> tasksel?
[10:53] <admiralshlorky> well, i've already got ubuntu installed on it and it's set up for ssh access
[10:53] <admiralshlorky> i don't really want to have to reinstall the entire operationg system just so i can install some server packages
[10:54] <raph_> hello there
[10:55] <deej1976> !tasksel
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> caesar_: you can install aptitude, it just isn't in a default install like it used to. The package names are still the same
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> caesar_: also: ApacheMySQLPHP (last edited 2011-09-17 18:21:18 by tom6)
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> caesar_: so it is actively updated
[10:56] <caesar_> ActionParsnip: just tried the first command and it gave me that error
[10:56] <caesar_> i had rabbotvcs on 11.04 and loved it
[10:57] <caesar_> *rabbitvcs
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> caesar_: then the OS will tell you what package to install to get the command using the commandnotfound functionality
[10:57] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: from a terminal sudo tasksel ,then select LAMP server
[10:59] <admiralshlorky> deej, thanks
[10:59] <Nickymol> wow Freq-expert is amazing !
[10:59] <Delta> how do I add a dir to my PATH env var?
[10:59] <NoReGreT> why is there still no update to FF8 in 11.10 ?
[11:01] <Pumpkin-> Delta: assuming bash, and "just for now", export PATH=$PATH:/new/path/
[11:01] <Delta> Pumpkin-: it must be permanent
[11:01] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, are you still there ?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Delta: in ~/.bashrc add:  export PATH=$PATH:/new/folder
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Delta: then run:  source ~/.bashrc
[11:03] <admiralshlorky> deej1976: i selected what i'd like to install, but it just exits after i press enter on the appropriate menu choice
[11:03] <admiralshlorky> nvm, i'm a retard
[11:03] <admiralshlorky> i need to read more apparently
[11:04] <Qualia> Is there a way to search with a special character (such as %) in GOOGLE ?
[11:04] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, yes
[11:05] <dr_willis> !path
[11:05] <admiralshlorky> !PATH
[11:05] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, is there is a way to manually set the connector to Mic ?
[11:05] <dr_willis> no factoid on it :'(
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: suggest one :)
[11:07] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, http://annevankesteren.nl/2008/04/ubuntu-microphone
[11:07] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, does that work?
[11:08] <admiralshlorky> no
[11:08] <admiralshlorky> maybe, sorry, that was unnecessarily negative and completely unfounded in reality, i just felt like saying no
[11:08] <Younder> admiralshlorky, I never asked you ;)
[11:08] <Nickymol> is there a way i start my terminal always with sudo rights ?
[11:09] <Younder> Nickymol, that there is.
[11:09] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, there is no menus in the sound control, i'm on Ubuntu 11.10
[11:10] <admiralshlorky> Younder, thank you for being understanding
[11:10] <Younder> Nickymol, you don't need a special terminal though. Simply sudo <command> will do
[11:10] <moeeep> Nickymol, Yonder: I believe that this is convenient but is it really advisable to do so?
[11:11] <MrJW> Ubuntu!
[11:11] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: sudo tasksel, select LAMP server, press tab to Ok, then enter
[11:11] <MrJW> Hello!
[11:11] <admiralshlorky> deej1976, yeah, i got it with a quick google search
[11:11] <Nickymol> i know and with sudo -s you can stay loged in as root / super user
[11:11] <Nickymol> but i cba to typ sudo all the time or every new terminal sudo -s
[11:12] <admiralshlorky> problem is i generally ask here before i google, because irc gives more relevant and precise answers
[11:12] <MrJW> I am having a video issue with my 10.10, I was wondering where I should direct my question? Thank you.
[11:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> MrJW ask the question and we'll see what we can do
[11:13] <Klojum> what sort of video issue?
[11:15] <Younder> moeeep, yes it really is advisable to sudo. Setting up a su (that is root account) is not
[11:15] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, I have installed PulseAudio's Volume controller, it have the same behavior, it reverts to line-in
[11:17] <moeeep> Younder: I'm not questioning sudo, I'm questioning how Nickymol wants to use it
[11:17] <Bennit> Hi
[11:17] <Bennit> is it possible to specify the ssh-key directory for sshfs?
[11:17] <Bennit> (without putting them in .ssh/)
[11:17] <marko_> marko@shadow:~$ crossover-standard-demo
[11:17] <marko_> /usr/bin/python: can't find '__main__' module in '/usr/share/command-not-found'
[11:17] <marko_> marko@shadow:~$
[11:17] <marko_> why does this happen?
[11:18] <marko_> lately i've seen this weird messages i'm not used seeing
[11:18] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, Are you using that standard intel chip or are you using a sound card?
[11:18] <marko_> something to do with python and always not finding main
[11:18] <lng> hi! how do I guess my Ubuntu architecture?
[11:18] <Younder> lng, you don't
[11:19] <dr_willis> command-not-found us the tool that suggests packages for cmands you enter
[11:19] <lng> Younder: ?
[11:19] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, I'm using on-board sound, it's a VIA chipset
[11:19] <Younder> lng, lshw will do
[11:19] <SwedeMike> lng: what kind of architecture?
[11:19] <SwedeMike> lng: uname -m gives you processor arch
[11:19] <dr_willis> !find command-not-found
[11:19] <lng> Younder: this is for hardware
[11:19] <lng> SwedeMike: yes
[11:20] <lng> SwedeMike: but I might have 32bit OS
[11:20] <SwedeMike> lng: then you have to look in cat /proc/cpuinfo and check it against the manufacturer spec.
[11:20] <dr_willis>     marko try installing the command-not-found   package
[11:21] <SwedeMike> lng: so by "ubuntu architecture" you really meant "does my CPU handle 64bit" ?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> SwedeMike: uname -m is the arch of the kernel, not the cpu
[11:21] <lng> SwedeMike: no
[11:21] <lng> SwedeMike: my cpu is 64bit
[11:21] <Younder> StompinBroknGlas, Well, I am sorry. I am clueless. It  should just work
[11:21] <lng> SwedeMike: not sure about os
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> SwedeMike: you can install 32bit ubuntu on 64bit CPU, then run:  uname -m  and it will return: i686
[11:22] <SwedeMike> ActionParsnip: yes, I am aware of that. I'm still trying to figure out what he's after.
[11:22] <deej1976> lng: uname -i
[11:22] <SwedeMike> lng: usually your kernel will follow the ubuntu installed arch, or do you believe you might have installed a 64bit kernel on your 32bit system?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> lng: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model | grep name     will show the CPU, you can then use the web to see what it is
[11:23] <StompinBroknGlas> Younder, it's ok, could it be a bug or something ?
[11:23]  * szal doesn't think that that is possible
[11:23] <deej1976> deej1976: output of uname -im
[11:24] <geogeek> hi
[11:24] <geogeek> all i have made an upgrade from ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10
[11:24] <lng> ActionParsnip: man
[11:24] <lng> I know my cpu
[11:24] <lng> I know what is proc fs
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> lng: so what is the issue?
[11:25] <lng> I'm not sure if my Ubuntu 64bit
[11:25] <deej1976> lng: output of uname -im
[11:25] <lng> i686 i386
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> lng: then uname -m  will tell you. i686 = 32bit   x86_64 = 64bit
[11:25] <geogeek> and i have an error could'nt download and  install flash player for some network reasons
[11:25] <deej1976> lng: Your on 32bit
[11:26] <lng> yes
[11:26] <lng> thanks
[11:26] <lng> a lot
[11:26] <geogeek> it aborts the update it has'nt make an clean up :s , and i have rebooted the machine
[11:27] <geogeek> then now i don't see the network button the top bar , so i can't connect to a network *
[11:27] <geogeek> :s
[11:27] <quarlog> how does one get the new "titlebar vanishes into upper bar" bug/feature reset to gnome 2 version?
[11:27] <geogeek> plz help me in this upgrade error
[11:28] <geogeek> should i search for this bug "titlebar vanishes into upper bar" ??
[11:28] <quarlog> maximize window, 3 buttons disappear in some kind of bar
[11:29] <quarlog> gnome3 bugfeature
[11:29] <quarlog> not nice
[11:29] <quarlog> the minimize, maximize, close buttons
[11:29] <quarlog> and theres no more titlebar with menu bar
[11:29] <quarlog> sucks
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> quarlog: do you mean the global menu?
[11:29] <quarlog> and the sidebar sucks too
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !notunity
[11:29] <quarlog> the menu on top
[11:30] <deej1976> quarlog: Do you want to remove the global-menu so the apps have there own bars?
[11:30] <quarlog> oh
[11:30] <quarlog> just like it was in gnome2, with the new changes that make sense, no hardware compatibility modes please
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> quarlog: the gnome fallback is similar to old gnome
[11:31] <quarlog> its slower
[11:31] <quarlog> supposedly
[11:31] <quarlog> oh, so ubuntus shell is unity
[11:31] <quarlog> nice
[11:31] <geogeek> can anyone help me for displaying network button
[11:31] <zapper1> Could somebody take a look at this log http://paste.ubuntu.com/734107/ and tell me what is wrong? My laptop won't boot an this is driving me nuts!!
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> quarlog: yes, there is gnome-shell too
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: at what poingt does it stop?
[11:33] <szal> zapper1: don't crosspost please
[11:34] <quarlog> got everything installed
[11:34] <quarlog> still, not even in the tweak menu
[11:34] <quarlog> dont want no stinking sidebar or that bugfeature with maximized windows
[11:34] <quarlog> everything else is fine
[11:34] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: at boot it leaves me with a black screen doing normal boot, and shows some text if i boot in recovery, but it would freeze either
[11:35]  * Younder just got carpenters 'I won't last a day without you'
[11:35] <quarlog> just a taskbar with tasks and when maximized, well, maximized windows
[11:35] <deej1976> quarlog: xfce?
[11:35] <quarlog> nautilus and everything else like it was in gnome2
[11:35] <quarlog> no xfce
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: what gpu do you use?
[11:35] <quarlog> just the damn taskbar applet
[11:35] <quarlog> none of the fancy stuff
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> quarlog: gnome fallback I believe does that
[11:36] <quarlog> supposedly it also fallsback on the hardware and 3d dont work?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> quarlog: a few are moving to xfce tbh, looks and smells like gnome2
[11:36] <deej1976> !classic | quarlog
[11:36] <geogeek> i can't see the network select button in the top bar in ubuntu after upgrade
[11:36] <quarlog> !notunity
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> quarlog: sure, just add a startup item to run:  compiz --rplace
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> compiz --replace
[11:37] <zapper1> nvidia 8600M GT
[11:37] <Younder> My GPU is good for 1 Terra flop (a 2050  Tesla)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: did you upgrade from Natty to Oneiric?
[11:37] <geogeek> anyone for help ?
[11:37] <zapper1> no, i did a clean install
[11:38] <Younder> The NVIDEA 5000 is recommended
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: you may need to drop to root recovery console and run: nvidia-xconfig
[11:38] <Younder> zero issue install
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Younder: never heard of it ;)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> my 6150 runs perfectly too, even with the 285 driver :)
[11:39] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: the problem is that i can't get into recovery mode
[11:39] <Younder> ActionParsnip, http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-quadro-5000-us.html
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: sure you can, hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[11:39] <driiper> Hello! I'm currently thinking of changing from Win 2008 server to Ubuntu and was wondering which of the releases are the most stable one? is there any diffrence at all ?
[11:39] <Younder> ActionParsnip, well be educated :)
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Younder: it won't go in any of my systems, nor do I intend to spend that on a video card
[11:40] <Younder> ActionParsnip, one sinister power plug.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Younder: how is a power plug sinister?
[11:40] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: no way, the laptop would freeze after i select that entry on grub, it would not get to the ncurses dialog where you select what kind of recovery task you want to do
[11:40] <Younder> ActionParsnip,It works fine with linux
[11:41] <driiper> Do anyone know? :)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Younder: great, still not buying it myself
[11:41] <jrib> driiper: releases are stable by definition (see ubottu's !sru factoid).  Your main decision is if you want to use 10.04 LTS (supported for 5 years after release on server) or the latest stable: 11.10 (supported for 18 months after release).  When support runs out, you simply upgrade release.  10.04 will not have software as new as 11.10
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> driiper: I'd wait til april and install Perfect in a clean install (if you can), or install Lucid server and get lots of support for a long time
[11:41] <Younder> driiper, I have one! And it works just fine
[11:42] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: the pastebin i posted earlier cotains the logs of two boots, the first through normal mode and the second in recovery mode
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: then boot to liveCD and you can chroot
[11:43] <zapper1> ActionParsnip:  i'm on livecd now, what should i do?
[11:43] <driiper> But like, for example i need to install Rtorrent. in oneiric the version of RTORRENT is 8.7.7 and i need 8.6.6 in order to get the WEB ui to work. is there any possibility to use OLD repo's to get the required package (8.6.6)
[11:44] <driiper> Or should i just go for LTS and play it "safe"
[11:44] <jrib> driiper: maybe with a ppa.  But if you have this requirement, I would recommend just using 11.10
[11:44] <dr_willis>   they removed the webui? how odd
[11:44] <Exopaladin> They broke the API that most of the web UIs use, I believe
[11:44] <fulcrum> can anyone tell me how to setup gwibber streams?
[11:44] <Exopaladin> They broke the xmlrpc API enough to break the web UI I wrote for it, anyway :P
[11:45] <driiper> yeh they broke it in 8.7.7 i guess. i'm using RUTorrent.
[11:45] <driiper> Why did they break it anyways? :P
[11:45] <Exopaladin> I'm not sure, but it was annoying
[11:45] <dr_willis> because they could.
[11:45] <dr_willis> :-)
[11:45] <driiper> Just because we can ;D
[11:45] <Exopaladin> I think I manually downloaded an old rtorrent + libtorrent package and installed it on this server, then pinned it
[11:46] <driiper> Which release are you using? oneiric?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/    instead of the grub install stuff run: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:46] <Exopaladin> Yup
[11:46] <tonydeneline> hello community
[11:47] <driiper> Good day tonydeneline
[11:47] <tonydeneline> I just buyed a dell with a (dammit) Radeon graphic card
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> tonydeneline: which gpu?
[11:47] <driiper> which card?
[11:47] <tonydeneline> I installed the ubuntu
[11:47] <quarlog> so the fallback is for graphics fallback dont want
[11:48] <quarlog> dont want compiz, want mutter
[11:48] <Exopaladin> Yeaah, I apparently installed the natty packages for rtorrent/libtorrent. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it though, but it works for me :P
[11:48] <quarlog> just want panels as they were
[11:48] <quarlog> rest can stay
[11:48] <quarlog> especially nautilus
[11:48] <quarlog> want them damn panels
[11:48] <driiper> Exopaladin: How do you do that?, like how do you set it up in sources.list ?
[11:48] <quarlog> is not microsoft windows with internet exploder in 98
[11:48] <quarlog> is ubuntu
[11:48] <Exopaladin> driiper: I grabbed the two packages manually and ran dpkg -i
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> quarlog: then install mutter and in the fallback run: mutter --replace
[11:49] <deej1976> quarlog: gnome-failback-session is not a downgrade of graphics
[11:49] <lesshaste> how do you install packages for R in ubuntu?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !info r
[11:49] <SaK> !help
[11:49] <SaK> !help
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: can you expand the question please
[11:50] <driiper> Exopaladin: If i remember correctly i tried that aswell. but i was missing libtorrent 11 from the repo.
[11:50] <fulcrum> in some screenshots I've seen of gwibber there is a streams dropdown on the right of the title bar, but I dont see it in version 3.2.0.1 ubuntu 11.10
[11:50] <jrib> lesshaste: aren't many of them in the repositories? For ones that aren't, there's probably a general place in your home that R will look for packages, no?
[11:50] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, R is a major stats package but it has it's own way of installing packages within it which I was worried might conflict with the ubuntu way
[11:50] <quarlog> installed mutter, will run fallback
[11:50] <quarlog> and that magic command
[11:50] <tonydeneline> but I can find drivers for "AMD Radeon HD 6470M 512MB,BCC"
[11:50] <quarlog> hopefully there will be panels and great rejoicement then
[11:50] <quarlog> and still hardware acceleration
[11:51] <Younder> ActionParsnip, Yes i Have a seriously bad dude. A dual 8 core zenon with a tesla 2050 and a NVIDEA 5000
[11:51] <Exopaladin> driiper: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/amd64/libtorrent11/download http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/amd64/rtorrent/download
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> !info r-base
[11:51] <quarlog> a "do you want something that fucks up your user experience? decision dialog would have been fine"
[11:51] <Exopaladin> I just grabbed both of those, ran dpkg -i on libtorrent first, then rtorrent
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Younder: it's nvidia not nvidea
[11:51] <quarlog> thank you
[11:51] <driiper> Exopaladin: tyvm
[11:51] <Younder> ActionParsnip, get mathematica
[11:51] <Exopaladin> You're welcome
[11:51] <lesshaste> jrib, ok.. I really want to source for the packages too
[11:51] <deej1976> !r-base
[11:52] <inz> lesshaste, apt-get source is your friend then =)
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Younder: I'm on a single core amd sempron 1.6Ghz with onboard nvidia 6150LE
[11:52] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: got this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/734125/ is it ok?
[11:52] <lesshaste> inz, oh!
[11:52] <Tm_T> quarlog: langu...
[11:52] <donkeyboy> Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) using ath9k Kernel driver, and since I upgraded to Natty whenever I have high traffic volume it just stops working. I get 0Kb throughput. It doesn't dissconnect from the AP, just goes to 0Kb. If I then disconnect and reconnect to the AP it works again like a charm, till I have high traffic and the cyle repeats itself
[11:53] <driiper> tonydeneline: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1699832   haven't checked much into it though
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: if that's in the chroot, then yes it's fine
[11:53] <lesshaste> inz, do you know how to fix gpgv: Signature made Mon 23 Nov 2009 12:07:52 GMT using DSA key ID 91B0D3B7
[11:53] <lesshaste> gpgv: Can't check signature: public key not found
[11:53] <lesshaste> ?
[11:53] <deej1976> lesshaste: r-base - GNU R statistical computation and graphics system
[11:53] <lesshaste> deej1976, yes that's it thanks.. I am trying to get the source for some of its packages
[11:53] <marsfligth> Please, how can I to delete automatically files into 'trash bin' after days since were trasherd? For instance 'Thunderbird' has this function for each folder and is called 'retention policy' see the 'gui configurtion'. Thanks for help me
[11:53] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: so now i  reboot and everything should work?
[11:53] <lesshaste> using apt-get source now :)
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: maybe, try it :)
[11:53] <inz> lesshaste, it's usually just a warning you can ignore
[11:54] <zapper1> ok, i will do
[11:54] <deej1976> apt-get source <packagename>
[11:54] <lesshaste> inz, ok
[11:54] <lesshaste> deej1976, thanks.. where does the source get put?
[11:54] <Younder> Seriously Mathematica personal edition is worth it
[11:54] <jrib> Younder: try sage
[11:54] <tonydeneline> driiper .. thanks I will read that post
[11:55] <deej1976> lesshaste: It downloads and extract to your current directory
[11:55] <Daniel15> Hi everyone, I've recently installed Ubuntu on a new PC but it keeps crashing :(. This is a picture of the crash: http://twitpic.com/7coz0z/full (sorry it's a picture, haven't grabbed the dmesg log yet since I'm running a memory test on the PC at the moment).
[11:55] <Younder> Best investment I ever made
[11:55] <Daniel15> Any ideas what could cause that?
[11:55] <lesshaste> deej1976, oh!
[11:55] <lesshaste> thanks
[11:55] <deej1976> lesshaste: mkdir r-src ; cd r-src ; apt-get source r-base
[11:55] <lesshaste> deej1976, I only want a package but thanks
[11:55] <inz> lesshaste, but you can get the key with gpg --recv-key 91B0D3B7; gpg --armor --export 91B0D3B7 | sudo apt-key add
[11:55] <lesshaste> an R package that is
[11:56] <Younder> If you are at all interested in mathematics buy it
[11:56] <bz0b> hey does anyone here know how to make iwlagn not stay on fixed channel -1
[11:56] <deej1976> Younder: Stop, he wants R
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Daniel15: what gpu do you use?
[11:56] <lesshaste> inz, thanks.. I get gpg: key 91B0D3B7: public key "Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd@debian.org>" imported
[11:56] <lesshaste> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[11:56] <lesshaste> and
[11:57] <Daniel15> ActionParsnip: ATI Radeon 6670
[11:57] <lesshaste> gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory
[11:57] <bz0b> also, i just picked up a asus g74sx with 2gb gtx560m, and i want to know what the best driver would be
[11:57] <Aldus> hi. N00b question... In my Ubuntu main toolbar I have a tab for each window... I would like them to be grouped per application (like in windows). I.e. I have 15 different tabs for different skype chats!
[11:57] <Younder> deej1976, R is inferior to Mathematica. I Feel he should know that
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Daniel15: try the boot option: radeon.modeset=1
[11:57] <inz> lesshaste, sorry, forgot - as an argument for apt-key
[11:57] <Daniel15> I just rand a memory test with memtest86+ and it came back with 0 errors.
[11:57] <Younder> I have used R too
[11:57] <Daniel15> ActionParsnip: Okay, will do, thanks :)
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Younder: maybe but the price difference is significant
[11:57] <inz> lesshaste, so it should be | sudo apt-key add -
[11:58] <jrib> Younder: one is open source :)
[11:58] <lesshaste> inz, thanks!
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: try:  sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 91B0D3B7
[11:59] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, thanks.. I did what inz suggested
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: as long as the key is imported, it's all good
[12:00] <lesshaste> :)
[12:00] <jingfeihu> seems gcc-mingw32 is broken on oneiric.
[12:01] <jingfeihu> I can't install it through synaptic
[12:01] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: i have rebooted and nothing has changed
[12:01] <zapper1> the problem remains
[12:02] <dr3mro> hello i have created my very 1st package and i want to upload it to ppa but i get this error can any one help http://pastebin.com/ZjBcF2HP
[12:03] <Younder> The prize of Mathematica personal edition isn't half bad.
[12:03] <Lantizia> Hey anyone know about the Ubuntu 199 exam?  was it discontinued?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: hmm, ok remove the file from the partition
[12:03] <Younder> In my mind it is well worth it
[12:03] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: what file_
[12:04] <driiper> dr3mro: i dont really know the answer, but i googled that for you :) http://da44en.wordpress.com/2004/08/16/practical-gnupg/
[12:05] <Younder> I Hope I am not destroying your whole world ActionParsnip
[12:05] <dr3mro> driiper, no that is not about it
[12:06] <jingfeihu> seems gcc-mingw32 is broken on oneiric.
[12:06] <Younder> But I so love my Mathematica...
[12:06] <dr3mro> while I upload  to ppa i get this error can any one help http://pastebin.com/ZjBcF2HP
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Younder: the Principia?
[12:08] <Younder> MonkeyDust, no the program
[12:08] <LemonAid> Hello. When you install a package from the command line, is there any way to bypass the confirmation ? ([Y/N]). I`m trying ot write a script that install some programs and i don`t want to sit in from of the while it completes.
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> LemonAid: -y
[12:09] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: what file should i remove?
[12:09] <LemonAid> MonkeyDust: Thank you !
[12:10] <StaRetji> Hi folks, is there a way to force uhci_hcd over ehci_hcd? Really need help here. Thx
[12:11] <omar> Hello there.
[12:11] <omar> I am trying to install gnome-shell but I keep getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/505717/
[12:11] <omar> Any ideas how to fix it, please?
[12:11] <marsfligth> Please, how can I to delete automatically files into 'trash bin' after #xx days since were trasherd? For instance 'Thunderbird' has this function for each folder and is called 'retention policy' see the 'gui configurtion'. I have Gnome enviroment. Thanks for help me
[12:12] <deej1976> omar: try sudo apt-get update
[12:13] <omar> deej1976, yeah. But I'm not sure that's the case because any other package installs just fine. Only gnome-shell seems to have a problem.
[12:13] <wolfmitchell> Is it possible that I can get the Ubottu plugins?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: the xorg.conf file you made
[12:13] <StaRetji> In other words, I need to force USB to work only USB 1.1 Anyone?
[12:13] <deej1976> omar: did you try updating?
[12:13] <omar> deej1976, Yup. I did.
[12:13] <dr3mro> while I upload  to ppa i get this error can any one help http://pastebin.com/ZjBcF2HP
[12:13] <zapper1> ActionParsnip: done. what now?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> zapper1: not sure dude, could chroot and uninstall the proprietary driver and reboot
[12:14] <deej1976> omar: ubuntu version, upgrade/fresh ?
[12:15] <omar> deej1976, Fresh.
[12:15] <chowmeined> Has anyone figured out why chrome crashes all the time on 11.10?
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> "all the time"?
[12:16] <dr3mro> chowmeined, never crashed for me
[12:16] <chowmeined> yes, about every 1 in 3 page loads
[12:16] <deej1976> omar: Have you enabled any other repositires?
[12:16] <omar> deej1976, and one more thing. When I added the repository for the Hotot twitter client, I started getting a hash mismach error every time I apt-get update or install anything. I wonder why..
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> chowmeined: chrome only or some other browser, too?
[12:17] <chowmeined> MonkeyDust, only chrome, ive been falling back to firefox to get things done
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> ok
[12:17] <chowmeined> Theres an error in .xsession-errors: chrome: /build/buildd/cairo-1.10.2/src/cairo-surface.c:1287: cairo_surface_set_device_offset: Assertion `status == CAIRO_STATUS_SUCCESS' failed.
[12:17] <dr3mro> while I upload  to ppa i get this error can any one help http://pastebin.com/ZjBcF2HP
[12:18] <chowmeined> dr3mro, you need to sign your build with a gpg key
[12:19] <brondy> is there a consensus about the relative advantage of a 64 bit kernel compared to the 32 pae?
[12:19] <chowmeined> it looks like you signed the changes but not the .dsc file which you'd get out of debbuild
[12:19] <deej1976> omar: I think one off your add repositiries is causing the problem, you should try disabling them to install gnome-shell
[12:19] <SwedeMike> brondy: no, it all depends on what your needs are.
[12:19] <omar> deej1976, now the error has changed to "gnome-shell has no installation candidate".
[12:19] <brondy> any good info around about the differences?
[12:20] <chowmeined> brondy, i do 64bit on servers and 32bit on desktops/laptops, mostly because of flash issues
[12:20] <deej1976> omar: which repositires did you disable
[12:20] <omar> deej1976, haven't disabled anything yet.
[12:20] <szal> chowmeined: Flash issues are a thing of the past since Flash 11
[12:21] <chowmeined> szal, lol
[12:21] <brondy> thanks
[12:21] <deej1976> omar: sounds like your repositires are in a mess
[12:21] <SwedeMike> brondy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[12:21] <chowmeined> szal, its probably better, but i doubt there will ever be no issues, theres even issues with flash on windows
[12:21] <brondy> cool thanks
[12:21] <dr3mro> chowmeined, how ?
[12:21] <szal> chowmeined: I didn't say it's flawless, but native 64bit is way better than 32bit w/ a wrapper
[12:22] <dr3mro> chowmeined, this is my 1st package?
[12:22] <omar> deej1976, I don't think so.. I haven't tinkered with them much. All I did was add one repository. That's all. :\
[12:22] <chowmeined> szal, thats good to hear
[12:22] <chowmeined> i havent tried 64bit ubuntu desktop lately though so I can't vouch for it
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> for some reason, I can no longer copy to my remote pc, are there any known/common ftp issues? http://imagebin.org/183474
[12:23] <chowmeined> dr3mro, how did you build the package? debuild?
[12:23] <dr3mro> chowmeined, yes
[12:23] <szal> as for 64bit and Flash, I recommend installing Firefox (even if you use some other browser) and the FlashAid plugin to pull the latest Flash version
[12:23] <thib> Hi. Can anyone cluebat me in on where to seek out the toolchain maintainers (Specifically for 11.10) ?
[12:23] <dr3mro> chowmeined, debuild -S -sa
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> thib: start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[12:24] <deej1976> omar: cat you pastebin ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d if there is lots of output?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> thib: never mind that link
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> i was too fast
[12:25] <thib> MonkeyDust: olrite, thanks though
[12:26] <omar> deej1976, The only output is: " hotot-team-ppa-oneiric.list  hotot-team-ppa-oneiric.list.save "
[12:26] <thib> i'm really just looking for a way to be able to triage between gcc proper, debian and what ends up in Ubuntu
[12:26] <SwedeMike> brondy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1 is good as well
[12:26] <chowmeined> dr3mro, debuild should be signing those for you, you have a gpg keyring setup right?
[12:26] <szal> what the what is hotot?
[12:26] <thib> Hit a gcc-ssp buglet in gcc 4.6.1 shipped with 11.10 thats not present in the 4.5.4 package and not in gcc's/debians 4.6.1 either
[12:27] <deej1976> omar: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <omar> deej1976, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/505724/
[12:30] <dr3mro> chowmeined, i am not sue
[12:31] <dr3mro> chowmeined, i am not sure
[12:31] <JapyDooge> 13:30 <dr3mro> chowmeined, i am not sue < no you are dr3mro
[12:31]  * JapyDooge runs
[12:31] <dr3mro> chowmeined, how to set up gpg ??
[12:31] <deej1976> omar: try disabling backports
[12:31] <Lantizia> Ubuntu LPIC Exam 199 - anyone know if it is still going or not?
[12:31] <StaRetji> really need help here, how to force uhci_hcd to be default ( I need to prevent ehci_hcd from loading) Anyone? Thx
[12:31] <omar> deej1976, backports?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> !blacklist | StaRetji
[12:33] <SwedeMike> brondy: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAxMTQ seems to indicate that 64bit disadvantages are now largely gone.
[12:33] <go8765> Hello. Quick question: how in LO in panel show icons but not text ?
[12:33] <chowmeined> dr3mro, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[12:33] <deej1976> omar: ignore that, I've got backports enabled as well, an gnome-shell went on ok
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:34] <zapper_> ActionParsnip: doing a chroot and removing nvidia drivers fixed the issue. I had nvidia-173 installed, so now I am going to try nvidia-current
[12:34] <omar> deej1976, I dunno. Actually, I just reinstalled Ubuntu a coulple hours ago. Gnome shell was installed successfully in the previous one.
[12:35] <StaRetji> thx ActionParsnip, I've previousli adde it to blacklist.conf I guess my_blacklist.conf make a difference?
[12:35] <xi_> how to find out what behind a file descriptor given fd id
[12:35] <Younder> BluesKaj, hi do you have a SIMPLE problem for a change?
[12:36] <Jonii> Okay, I heard a suggestion that the reason Ubuntu drains my battery roughly twice as fast as windows is that bad drivers don't let my graphics device to sleep
[12:36] <Jonii> Could this be, and if so, how to fix?
[12:37] <Younder> Jonii, that sounds terribly complicated
[12:37] <BluesKaj> Younder, no , my problems are fixed , almost to my satisfaction , altho it would be nice not have to use pulseaudio.
[12:38] <Jonii> Younder: well, I hope it's not
[12:38] <lucas_> i just installed ubuntu 11.10 haveing trouble with thunder bird mail it wont accept my emial pass ward for yahoo
[12:38] <Younder> BluesKaj, Let's get this straight. You DONT want pulse audio?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Younder, what about you ?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Younder, exactly :)
[12:39] <Younder> BluesKaj,Well I love i
[12:40]  * BluesKaj shrugs ..well , to each his own , Younder
[12:41] <Younder> just played hendel mesiah
[12:42] <deej1976> omar: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge ; sudo apt-get purge hotot ; sudo apt-get purge hotot
[12:42] <deej1976> omar: Then sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[12:42] <Younder> I'd be wary of sudo apt-get purge
[12:43] <Younder> sounds like trouble
[12:43] <omar> deej1976, Yes. Disabling the hotot repository and updating fixed the problem. I'm now install gnome-shell.
[12:43] <lucas_> may i speak to someone who uses thunderbird plz
[12:43] <omar> deej1976, Thanks. :-)
[12:43] <deej1976> omar: No problem
[12:43] <Younder> lucas_, I do
[12:43] <IcePic> With this new unity thing, how do I make terminals and xterms NOT "deploy" on a workspace and not drag my view back to a workspace that previously had a terminal?
[12:43] <tonydeneline> driiper: I fallow that posts but my desktop stop showing the buttons
[12:44] <tonydeneline> I will try this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/46976/ati-catalyst-control-center-gives-error-radeon-hd-6470m
[12:44] <IcePic> hmm, became unclear. I want to be able to launch a terminal without unity pulling me to another workspace
[12:45] <IcePic> how do I tell unity that terminals are not "get focus to the old one" when I want a new
[12:45] <tonydeneline> some one already have resolved the problem with radeon 6470m graphic card?
[12:46] <go8765> Help me please someone with LO interface. I need icons in panels - now I have text in panels :(
[12:46] <StaRetji> ActionParsnip: FATAL: Module ehci_hcd is builtin - Any idea? Thx for reply
[12:46] <vto> hello, anyway to change in the fly laguage spellcheking? Gnome 2.3 applet or something?
[12:48] <tonydeneline> hello community, again
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> go8765: try closing all libreoffice apps and renaming the hidden config folder in $HOME
[12:49] <tonydeneline> I have a AMD Radeon HD 6470M 512MB,BCC installed in my i5 dell notebook
[12:49] <zapper_> does anybody know if the current nvidia driver finally supports KMS? I have installed it from the repos and now i finally get the pretty plymouth splash instead of the text one O_O
[12:49] <tonydeneline> but I m not finding the driver for this one.
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !ati | tonydeneline
[12:49] <tonydeneline> I  have readed that have problem with the old ons
[12:50] <LivTy> is there any way to periodically check mounts read from /etc/fstab let's say for availability?
[12:51] <MrJW> I get strange slmost flickering/vigrating lines going scross my screen in 10.10 I've always had this issue with this specific computer across 2 other versions of Ubuntu. The video is integrated into the motherboard(ECS EliteGroup 761GX-M754 V3.0c). I've properly configured my xorg.conf file and everything is going well except the flickering lines. They appear to happen more when I click and drag things around the screen. Please help!
[12:51] <MrJW> flickering/vibrating
[12:51] <kmaharja> k
[12:55] <go8765> ActionParsnip, thanks.
[12:55] <dr_willis> MrJW:  sounds like classic video 'tearing'
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> LivTy: you could with a clever script and a lot of grep / awking
[12:55] <dr_willis> MrJW:  you could try enabling the vsync option in the ccsm tool.  what chipset is it you are using?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> go8765: all better?
[12:57] <LivTy> ActionParsnip: thanks, any sample to begin with? I'm pretty new to GNU/Linux
[12:57] <go8765> ActionParsnip, I forgot that I make upgrade of LO but not upgrade LO-theme  :) . Now I try to upgrade it.
[12:59] <Jonii> So, I take it it's not a design feature that ubuntu should drain battery really fast?
[12:59] <Younder> will someone help lucas?
[13:00] <mali> heya, where can If ind the source code for the ubuntu installer?
[13:00] <Younder> ActionParsnip, perhaps
[13:00] <html> my sound stop working, 10.10 amtom  cpu  with dual boot win 7
[13:00] <Jonii> So, could graphics device drivers be suspect? Has anyone encountered anything like this before?
[13:01] <html> Jonii,  what is it?
[13:02] <html> hello?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Younder: sup?
[13:02] <Aquaguy> Hey there.
[13:02] <wolfmitchell> Lol...."You're now a super user editing one of the most important files on your system. No stress! "
[13:02] <Younder> Jonii, I have no idea why your sund system if f... and nor does anybody else
[13:03] <wolfmitchell> That was on the RootSudoTimeout page on the Ubuntu documentation.
[13:03] <Kartagis> !find libX11.so.6
[13:03] <mali> hmm I wonder why this happens.. I have some vrious sessions.. openbox, xfce, lxde etc... i use lxappearance and chose a mouse cursor theme, and yet it still uses some of the old ones  form the one I had before.. has this got to do with restarting X a bit or logging in and out or?
[13:03] <Aquaguy> Anyone knows if it is possible to get a list of the available printers from terminal?
[13:03] <html> google it
[13:03] <Jonii> Younder: sund system if f...?
[13:03] <deej1976> Aquaguy: lpq
[13:03] <dr_willis> Aquaguy:  the various 'lp*' commands perhaps
[13:03] <mali> lp -l ?
[13:04] <Jonii> html, oh right, yeah. Ubuntu drains my netbooks battery roughly twice as fast as Windows 7
[13:04] <dr_willis> mali:   ive seen where if you cnage the cursor. apps started befor the change. may not notice the change
[13:04] <Younder> Jonii, Totaly f...
[13:04] <Jonii> Which I take is not a designed feature but a problem
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Aquaguy: try:  lpstat -a
[13:04] <dr_willis> Jonii:  thers known kernel power saving issues..
[13:04] <mali> dr_willis,  ok thnak you.. it seems ot have persisted sometimes in a weird way but I will run some tests
[13:04] <mali> thanks
[13:05] <Jonii> dr_willis: I couldn't find anything like that on google
[13:05] <soreau> Jonii: Just goes to show how powerful linux is ;)
[13:05] <dr_willis> Jonii:  its been on dozens of blog sites for the last month+
[13:05] <Jonii> soreau: not funny :(
[13:05] <Jonii> I'd like to use linux
[13:05] <Jonii> But having just above 3 hours of battery time is way too little
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: do you have the latest BIOS?
[13:05] <soreau> Jonii: j/k. Really, substantial power loss is typically the fault of a kernel driver over a power hungry device like the graphics card. Which do you use?
[13:06] <wolfmitchell> What does it mean if I don't get a GRUB menu on startup?
[13:06] <html> Aquaguy,  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/list-all-printers-installed-parallel-nic-usb-785933/        heres a start
[13:06] <wolfmitchell> (Eg. Skips the GRUB menu)
[13:06] <bubbles|> does anyone know how safe psybnc is? there have been no updates since 2005 but it's still widely used
[13:06] <malina> hmm no dr_willis it didn't change I rr xchat and here, the ibar is updated, but not in a temrinal .. but here the resize is the old one :p
[13:06] <dr_willis> https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS452US452&aq=0&oq=linux+power+regress&gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=linux+power+regression
[13:06] <serkamil> hello
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: if you single boot, then its fairly normal
[13:06] <Jonii> My netbooks Acer Aspire 1410. I'm not sure about my bios, and I don't know about kernel drivers
[13:06] <malina> where can I find the osurce for the ubuntu installer ?
[13:06] <Younder> Jonii,Get a new system
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: check for updates. There may be an acpi fix
[13:06] <Younder> Jonii, G....
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Younder: not constructive
[13:07] <wolfmitchell> Well, I am dual-booting Mint and Ubuntu. No menu, boots into Ubuntu.
[13:07] <Younder> ActionParsnip, no I'm not
[13:07] <Younder> ActionParsnip,I am  so frustrated
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Younder: then kindly become so or as a question
[13:07] <Jonii> ActionParsnip: how? And if Windows 7 works properly, doesn't that rule out bios?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: it may be needed for the Linux support, Linux is a different OS to Windows and has different support
[13:08] <BluesKaj> wolfmitchell, hold down the shift key after the bios screen until grub appears
[13:08] <wolfmitchell> Ok
[13:09] <wolfmitchell> Thanks
[13:09] <Younder> ActionParsnip,I am so confused I don't even understand the question .
[13:09] <dr_willis> wolfmitchell:  you may want to edit the grub configs to never hide the menu
[13:09] <Jonii> ActionParsnip: okay. So, how do I update bios?
[13:09] <dr_willis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818830
[13:10] <dr_willis> I dident think ActionParsnip  said a bios update may be needed... Or i missed it...
[13:10] <wolfmitchell> How?
[13:10] <dr_willis> !grub2 | wolfmitchell
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: may help http://www.linlap.com/wiki/acer+aspire+1410
[13:10] <dr3mro> while I upload  to ppa i get this error can any one help http://pastebin.com/ZjBcF2HP
[13:11] <WhuazGoodYo> hey hou can someone here help me with Korean Input Method problems?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Jonii: "The battery will not last for the claimed eight hours. Depending on the system load, the battery life time is something around five hours"
[13:11] <Younder> gutter sjønner det
[13:11] <html> Jonii, please see my pm
[13:12] <Younder> en k hadde vært på sin plass
[13:13] <html> Jonii, what os are you running?
[13:13] <harsh343> I want to find an application but i am not able to find them
[13:13] <harsh343> how can i find them
[13:13] <html> ubuntu software center
[13:13] <harsh343> ubuntu where stores all the data after installation
[13:13] <dr_willis> harsh343:  software center - has a search feature... or clarify the question...
[13:13] <Jonii> html: 11.10. Checking your pm now
[13:14] <dr_willis> if you mean to ask where to find the 'icon' for an installed app.. the Panel/top big button. has that search feature.
[13:14] <html> dr_willis,  i got the answer frist :P  yeah me  lol
[13:14] <WhuazGoodYo> does someone here know how to get different keyboard languages to work?
[13:14] <Younder> I have no F... idea why your os is ... go away
[13:15] <szal> trollolol
[13:15] <soreau> Jonii: 'lspci|grep VGA' will tell you what graphics card. 'sudo lshw' should list what hardware is detected and which kernel driver is in use for each
[13:15] <deej1976> !langauge
[13:15] <soreau> If I am wrong about lshw listing the kernel module for each device, someone can correct me ActionParsnip
[13:16] <BluesKaj> soreau, hw=hardware,.try lsmod
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> WhuazGoodYo: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2011/11/how-to-change-the-keyboard-layout-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[13:17] <harsh343> dr_willis, and also any other proper location where each and everything is installed
[13:17] <Jonii> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[13:17] <harsh343> means where in filesystem
[13:17] <harsh343> ?
[13:17] <deej1976> harsh343: /usr/bin
[13:18] <soreau> Jonii: so you're using the intel driver for graphics, typically pretty good about power consumption. lspci -nv should list details about all hardware and corresponding module in use
[13:18] <html> my sound stop working, 10.10 amtom  cpu  with dual boot win 7
[13:18] <deej1976> !filesystem | harsh343
[13:19] <soreau> Jonii: likely one of the the i9xx kernel modules for graphics
[13:19] <soreau> html: Still works fine in 7, right?
[13:19] <Younder> I have no F... idea why your os is ... go away
[13:19] <harsh343> deej1976, and any other location like when i install apache and all thins it goes in to var and etc i think so
[13:20] <harsh343> folders
[13:20] <soreau> Younder: be nice please
[13:20] <deej1976> !abuse | Younder
[13:21] <loconut> hello, i just redidi my rhel-6 machine to ubuntu, leaving my 6 disk raid 6 alone. upon booting ubuntu, it detects the raid and I can activate all the volumes with vgchange -ay, but when I try to mount /dev/Data/raid6 with ext3 it fails like its not valid. I rebooted with an RHEL rescue disk and that raid is just fine...
[13:21] <Younder> soreau, I am being as nice as I can
[13:21] <PsyCl0ne> good morning all. Could someone please help me setup a FTP to send files to my windows 7 computer before I wipe 11.10 off of my other desktop?
[13:21] <truepurple> Some avi files under totem allow the use of the position slider, and some don't. The ones that do, can be limitedly changed position but if I do it too much it causes weird issues like the video playing as though in fast forward, including everyone sounding like chipmunks
[13:21] <soreau> ! sound | html
[13:21] <loconut> any ideas why my rhel formatted ext3 array wouldn't mount in ubuntu?
[13:22] <dr_willis> truepurple:  ive seen video files with broken seeking. vlc asked to fix them for me i recall.. I forget what the proper term for the issue was.
[13:22] <Younder> deej1976, And I am grateful,Jut now I am tired and vengeful
[13:22] <Younder> just
[13:22] <njalk> WhuazGoodYo: for the server version http://igrudge.net/keyboard-layout-ubuntu-server-11-04/
[13:22] <dr_willis> PsyCl0ne:  why use ftp?  use ssh and winscp on windows.. is rather quick. and much more secure
[13:22] <randy2009> Hi, in jetty, what is the difrence between contexts and webapps?
[13:22] <deej1976> Younder: Please let other people correct their spelling
[13:23] <truepurple> Sorry, I meant to say that the ones that do sometimes allow but cause strange issues, is vlc, totem doesnt allow it at all
[13:23] <Younder> deej1976, that i can do
[13:23] <dr_willis> truepurple:  i think the term  for the breakage is 'broken video index'
[13:23] <WhuazGoodYo> ActionParsnip:  thx for the link
[13:24] <truepurple> dr_willis,  "vlc asked to fix them for me i recall" I did not understand this
[13:24] <PsyCl0ne> dr_willis: How would I go about doing ssh on ubuntu??
[13:24] <PsyCl0ne> dr_willis: this is also a local network and would putty work?
[13:24] <soreau> ! ssh | PsyCl0ne
[13:25] <deej1976> harsh343: dpkg -L apache2
[13:25] <soreau> ! putty | PsyCl0ne
[13:25] <zfe> hello
[13:25] <soreau> hi
[13:25] <zfe> how can i install ubuntu on my mac?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> PsyCl0ne: basic ssh: ssh user@ip-adres
[13:25] <jrib> !mac | zfe
[13:26] <soreau> ! mac | zfe
[13:26] <soreau> D'oh!
[13:26] <PsyCl0ne> soreau: So with defaults I should be able to ssh into my ubuntu box and pull the files without any preconfiguration?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> PsyCl0ne: filezilla can connect to the SFTP service openssh-server gives
[13:26] <Jonii> Oh, found it
[13:26] <Jonii> driver=i915
[13:27] <soreau> PsyCl0ne: No, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH or http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ if trying to ssh from a windows client
[13:27] <deej1976> !openssh-server
[13:27] <soreau> !info openssh-server
[13:27] <dr_willis> PsyCl0ne:  install the ssh server.
[13:27] <dr_willis> PsyCl0ne:  of course putty could work.. but winscp is designed to transfer files easially...
[13:27] <truepurple> dr_willis, What exactly did you mean by that?
[13:28] <dr_willis> truepurple:  id play a file in vlc.. it would pop up a dialog saying 'broken index  fix (y/n)'  in a dialog i recall..
[13:28] <zfe> cool, my mac is not supported
[13:28] <dr_willis> PsyCl0ne:  i always install winscp and putty on my windows machines.
[13:28] <Jonii> Okay, I gotta go. If anyone comes up with something, send me a pm
[13:29] <dr_willis> PsyCl0ne:  with ssh i can even get to my pc ffom my android phone and transfer files to/from the phone. :)
[13:29] <truepurple> dr_willis, and did that fix it?
[13:29] <dr_willis> truepurple:  its fixed many a problem video file ive had..
[13:29] <beatpanic> hi, someone has problems with bash-completion? like when doing export VAR=/ho<TAB> it doesn't complete? thanks
[13:29] <loconut> any ideas on my raid issue?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: could try the 1.2 VLC git PPA build
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> beatpanic: try adding a space after the =
[13:30] <beatpanic> MonkeyDust, yeah, it's a workaround but in the previous (11.04) ubuntu it worked IIRC
[13:30] <alois> hallo
[13:30] <beatpanic> MonkeyDust, thanks anyway :)
[13:31] <alois> wie gehts
[13:31] <dr_willis> $ export foo=/dev/s<tab>     works here...
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: are you having vlc issues?
[13:32] <soreau> beatbreaker: Try <tab><tab>
[13:32] <beatpanic> dr_willis, mmm I have bash-completion 1:1.3-1ubuntu6 maybe there's something wrong locally here
[13:32] <deej1976> !germany | alois
[13:32] <soreau> beatbreaker: In case there's more than one directory starting with /ho in your root folder (shouldn't be by default though)
[13:32] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, no, its with both totem and vlc, but its a bit different under vlc
[13:33] <beatpanic> soreau, nope, probably that's a different problem, I'll investigate more
[13:33] <soreau> beatbreaker: In any event, it works fine here
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:34] <beatpanic> soreau, ok good to know -- I'm beatpanic though :)
[13:34] <soreau> crap
[13:34] <soreau> beatbreaker: Sorry, meant beatpanic
[13:34] <beatpanic> soreau, IRC tab eheh :)
[13:34] <soreau> beatpanic: you mean #ubuntu, eheh :P
[13:35] <admiralshlorky> hey guys, quick question, i've registered a .tk account, pointed the ip with their free dns server to my server, but all i get is a blank page
[13:35] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, what is the first line for/about?
[13:35] <soreau> beatpanic: Clearly, autotabcompletion is working fine here ;)
[13:35] <admiralshlorky> is there any further configuration needed on my server?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: which first line?
[13:35] <admiralshlorky> when i go to the ip address, it shows up, but if i try the .tk domain name it just goes blank
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: its all one command
[13:36] <beatpanic> soreau, yeah maybe there's something wrong in my sourced things
[13:36] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, The issue is some video files having what might be termed "broken video index". The line "sudo add-apt-repository"
[13:36] <beatpanic> soreau, bye and thanks!
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> admiralshlorky: maybe it takes a while to permeate. I had to wait 24 hours before my name to ip translatedok
[13:36] <admiralshlorky> ok
[13:36] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, which was the first line you mentioned, hence "first line"
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: its a PPA of the nightly vlc build of vlc 1.2
[13:36] <admiralshlorky> but that's pretty much it?
[13:37] <admiralshlorky> just put in your server's ip in the ip field on their dns server form?
[13:37] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, what is a PPA?
[13:37] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: nslookup <domain>.tk
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: it's all one command and I typed it on one line, so there is only one line in the entire command I gave, hence me asking
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | truepurple
[13:37] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: nslookup <youripaddress>
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: its maintained by the vlc guys and the later version may help
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> truepurple: a PPA is made by one person, it is not in the repos
[13:38] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, thankyou
[13:38] <admiralshlorky> non-authoratative answers
[13:38] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: Not roled around DNS yet
[13:38] <admiralshlorky> ok
[13:38] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, can you also point me to ubuntu software that allows playing of commercial blu ray movies on a drive?
[13:39] <admiralshlorky> so it just needs a little time and it'll be gravy?
[13:39] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: yep
[13:39] <PsyCl0ne> dr_willis: thank you for letting me know about winSCP, its a great tool that I have never herd of
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: this is all I know http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easy-blu-ray-movie-playback-in-linux/
[13:40] <admiralshlorky> alrighty
[13:40] <admiralshlorky> hmm, now what in the hell do i do with a webserver......
[13:41] <Exopaladin> Serve websites!
[13:41] <admiralshlorky> perhaps....cat pictures?
[13:41] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: If this is your attempt to admin a webserver, don't make it public for everyone to see :d
[13:42] <admiralshlorky> hah
[13:42] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: 1st attempt
[13:42] <admiralshlorky> probably a good idea
[13:42] <kilon> anyone knows how to reset the depositories in ubuntu ?
[13:42] <KrisDouglas> admiralshlorky, if you want to save yourself some time have a look at WebMin
[13:42] <kilon> *repositories
[13:42] <beatpanic> soreau, I figured it out, my COMP_WORDBREAKS var doesn't contain '=' ...
[13:42] <deej1976> !info ppa-purge
[13:42] <admiralshlorky> oh god no
[13:42] <KrisDouglas> admiralshlorky, there's loads of fun stuff to play with
[13:42] <soreau> beatpanic: Certainly not a ubuntu issue :P
[13:42] <admiralshlorky> i like my command line
[13:43] <admiralshlorky> are there any good tutorials on configuring apache?
[13:43] <KrisDouglas> admiralshlorky, however if you wish to do it /right/ I would recommend nano
[13:43] <admiralshlorky> erm...nano?
[13:43] <admiralshlorky> i use vim
[13:43] <KrisDouglas> Ok, posh :)
[13:43] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: Wordpress,drupal,joomal,online shop with tomatocart
[13:44] <admiralshlorky> actually, i only program using a combination of sed/cat
[13:44] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: No awk :))
[13:44] <admiralshlorky> only when i'm feeling frisky.
[13:44] <weeb> anybody knows about software raid ?  if a drive fail, do I only have to put a blank one in the slot and the kernel will initialize the hard disk or I have to recreate all the partitions ?
[13:44] <KrisDouglas> admiralshlorky, quite a lot of the guides on the net are a bit excessive when it comes to apache2
[13:45] <KrisDouglas> then again, apache2 is a bit of a pig to begin with imho.
[13:45] <Laurenceb> hi
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> weeb: depends on the raid level
[13:45] <admiralshlorky> hrmm
[13:45] <KrisDouglas> Hello Laurenceb
[13:45] <Laurenceb> i need help with bluetooth - my bluetooth icon has greyed out
[13:45] <weeb> ActionParsni : raid 1 (mirroring)
[13:45] <deej1976> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/web-servers.html
[13:45] <deej1976> ActionParsnip: Sorry
[13:45] <KrisDouglas> deej1976, wrong person :)
[13:45] <weeb> ActionParsnip : raid 1 (mirroring)
[13:46] <deej1976> admiralshlorky: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/C/web-servers.html
[13:46] <Laurenceb> sudo rfcomm connect 3 Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Device or resource busy
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Laurenceb: try:  sudo hcitool dev
[13:46] <admiralshlorky> alright, sweet
[13:46] <admiralshlorky> thanks deej
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> weeb: in theory, yes but not sure.
[13:46] <KrisDouglas> deej1976, I did not know that existed, that's really well written :)
[13:46] <weeb> thanx, will try :-)
[13:46] <admiralshlorky> atm, the machine that's serving is pretty much a skeleton of a computer
[13:46] <Laurenceb> Devices:
[13:47] <Laurenceb> theres no bluetooth devices
[13:47] <admiralshlorky> it has a few downloads on it, but other than that, is pretty much a fresh install of linux with server software
[13:47] <admiralshlorky> and a python ide
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> weeb: http://www.howtoforge.com/replacing_hard_disks_in_a_raid1_array
[13:47] <Laurenceb> but my dongle is plugged in and worked a minute ago
[13:47] <admiralshlorky> so i'm not too worried about it getting royally effed in the A
[13:47] <meta-coder> hi ActionParsnip !
[13:47] <admiralshlorky> if anything too catastrophic happens, i don't feel bad about formatting
[13:48] <soreau> admiralshlorky: If you have to shorten or censor a word, just don't use it
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> weeb: seems like it does, you just add the drive to the array and it will rebuild
[13:48] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, is there any drawbacks from getting the latest vlc? Where a version is buggy because it is beta or something?
[13:48] <kilon> deej1976: i cant use ppa-purge, it needs install and i cant install anything
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: its not officially supported here is all I can say.
[13:48] <kilon> probablu i should get it manually
[13:49] <deej1976> kilon: Can you pastebin the error message
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: you could try removing the config folder for your user then rerun the pp to get vanilla configs
[13:49] <KrisDouglas> @UbuntuDevelopers why is there no "Apply" button on a lot of the settings window now? Can you please add one, I don't care if it doesn't work but it leaves me with a sense of accomplishment when I have used it.
[13:49] <admiralshlorky> soreau: sometimes, i prefer not to type something that is commonly accepted as slang, especially if it saves me keystrokes, nevermind that this is the internet, and when in rome...
[13:49] <dr3mro> does appearance of package in ppa take long time .. i am trying to upload and every thing is ok except it don't appear on launchapad but the terminal says it's uploaded
[13:49] <tp43> I have some program "googlism" which I want to remove but don't how, i can't find it in apt-get or synaptic
[13:49] <dr3mro> Successfully uploaded helloworld_0.1-1.dsc to ppa.launchpad.net for ppa.
[13:49] <dr3mro> Successfully uploaded helloworld_0.1.orig.tar.gz to ppa.launchpad.net for ppa.
[13:49] <dr3mro> Successfully uploaded helloworld_0.1-1.debian.tar.gz to ppa.launchpad.net for ppa.
[13:49] <dr3mro> Successfully uploaded helloworld_0.1-1_source.changes to ppa.launchpad.net for ppa.
[13:49] <FloodBot1> dr3mro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:49] <deej1976> !language | admiralshlorky
[13:49] <admiralshlorky> gah
[13:49] <soreau> admiralshlorky: When in #ubuntu just don't do it
[13:49] <dr_willis> KrisDouglas:  gnome never did follow the 'do stuff then apply' type settings.  they always basically get set when you click on the setting.
[13:49] <admiralshlorky> fine
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> saves even more keystrokes
[13:50] <KrisDouglas> dr_willis, I know ;) but i want the button for moral support.
[13:50] <dr_willis> KrisDouglas:  get a bit of tape....  and write on it apply... and stick it ...
[13:50] <dr_willis> :)
[13:50] <tp43> its annoyin caue often I like to launch googe-chrome by hitting goo TAB, but googlist get in the way, can I remove it, cause it doesn't work even anyway
[13:50] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, I did not understand that, BTW I ran those commands, my vlc version is still 1.19, do I need to restart?
[13:51] <kilon> deej1976: here you go and thanks for helping --> http://pastebin.com/1jz1VA5N
[13:51] <dr_willis> Differnt 'gui design guidelines' :)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: no, this isn't windows
[13:51] <tp43> what the heck is googlism
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: it will update when it's ready. the config I believe is in ~/.config
[13:51] <dr_willis> !info googlism
[13:51] <KrisDouglas> dr_willis, done :)
[13:52] <tp43> I have googlism in /usr/bin/googlism, but when i try apt-get remove, it say not found
[13:52] <dr_willis> KrisDouglas:  write 'any' on the space key while you are at it..
[13:52] <dr_willis> tp43:  and how did you install it?
[13:52] <Laurenceb> is there a way to restart bluetooth?
[13:52] <tp43> dr_willis, no idea
[13:52] <mali> dr_willis, I had to relog into X , that was all, that propagated properly the xcursor pack
[13:52] <mali> :)
[13:52] <KrisDouglas> dr_willis, I don't need that one, i have one of those on my USB numerical keypad :)
[13:52] <dr_willis> tp43:  delete it then.. i guess.... or rename it to GOOGlism  whatever it is..
[13:52] <dr3mro> does appearance of package in ppa take long time .. i am trying to upload and every thing is ok except it don't appear on launchapad but the terminal says it's uploaded
[13:53] <llutz> tp43: "whatis googlism"
[13:53] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, dr_willis said there is a 1.20 out there that will fix broken indexes for you, but my version is still only 1.19, how do I get the version willis was talking about? And what is it that you are talking about with this config file thing?
[13:53] <llutz> tp43: "dpkg -S /usr/bin/googlism"
[13:53] <tp43> dr_willis, if I remove it from /usr/bin will it still be in my bash environmet?
[13:53] <KrisDouglas> http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/
[13:53] <tp43> llutz, thx
[13:54] <deej1976> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:54] <deej1976> kilon: looks like one of your add ppa, has conflicts
[13:54] <tp43> llutz, sweet, googlism is no more
[13:54] <Laurenceb>  sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart never completes, any ideas?
[13:54] <deej1976> kilon: added*
[13:54] <tp43> dr_willis, it turns it out was libwww-search-perl, lol
[13:54] <kilon> deej1976: yeah i assmumed so
[13:55] <llutz> tp43: my 2 commands just would have told what/why it is. they won't remove/change anything
[13:55] <tp43> llutz, yeah but I know how to remove it once I know the package name, it was finding the package name I didn't now how to
[13:55] <llutz> tp43: ah ok
[13:56] <beatpanic> soreau, not this time, but 11.10 with gnome 3.x in fallback mode is totally a FAIL ;)
[13:56] <deej1976> kilon: Try disabling the extra repositories with update-manager-settings
[13:57] <kilon> deej1976: update manager does not work too
[13:57] <deej1976> kilon: update-manager -> settings
[13:57] <kilon> deej1976: i cant open update manager
[13:58] <truepurple> ActionParsnip, dr_willis said there is a 1.20 out there that will fix broken indexes for you, but my version is still only 1.19, how do I get the version willis was talking about? And what is it that you are talking about with this config file thing?
[13:58] <deej1976> kilon: /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk
[13:59] <kilon> i cant open synaptic and i cant even open ubuntu software center, they all open with a error dialog and exit deej1976
[13:59] <Bluelight> How do I join a network with ChatZilla when the network is not listed on the /networks command?
[13:59] <deej1976> kilon: /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk even this?
[13:59] <gertidon> hi all
[13:59] <kilon> deej1976: one sec
[14:01] <ctjctj> I am trying to find where I can unmount CDROMs/DVDs (not eject) or to set it so that DVDs/CDROMs do NOT automount.  11.10 unity
[14:01] <jstoone> Hi gow do it mount a shard harddrive/folder from another network. Ourside my LAN.
[14:01] <kilon> deej1976: it open yes
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in ~/.config there may be a VLC folder, rename or delete it then rerun the app and you will get vanilla settings
[14:02] <deej1976> kilon: Other-Software, untick the ppa's
[14:02] <ctjctj> Also, how do I change the defaults for Dash to something other than firefox, ???, thunderbird and banshee?
[14:02]  * deej1976 stepping out 
[14:03] <kilon> deej1976: still getting the error, thanks mate though
[14:03] <jtr__> any way msn messenger would work in ubuntu ?
[14:04] <TehDGM> the real client wont work in wine, but there are alternative packages that allow you to log in to your msn account
[14:04] <alex88> hi guys, i'm trying to install libtiff4-dev on oneiric to be able to compile a program, but it says "libtiff4-dev : Depends: libjpeg-dev" but libjpeg8-dev is there, not libjpeg-dev, how to fix that?
[14:05] <jtr__> TehDGM: any names ?
[14:05] <jstoone> alex88: Have you tried to install the libjpeg-dev and then install libtiff-dev and see if it compiles?
[14:06] <jtr__> TehDGM: any names of alternate clients ?
[14:07] <jtr__> TehDGM: considering i wanna use video also in chat
[14:07] <TehDGM> jtr__ pidgin/empathy should be installed by default
[14:07] <jtr__> TehDGM: on kde ?
[14:07] <alex88> jstoone: oh, silly question, it worked :) but it installs jpeg62 which is previous version right? then jpeg8
[14:07] <TehDGM> theres also amsn
[14:07] <jtr__> TehDGM: i want to use video chat , will it work ?
[14:08] <TehDGM> jtr__ hm maybe emesene has video support
[14:08] <admiralshlorky> sweet, ty for the help deej1976, got it set up and got my permissions locked down
[14:08] <dr_willis> truepurple:  vlc has fixed broken index's for me for ages... like 2+ years
[14:09] <jstoone> alex88: as far as I know, they just name it libjpeg-dev and then you get the newest revision from the repos. Wouldn't bet my lung on it ;)
[14:09] <dr_willis> truepurple:  i never said it was a feature of  newer versions only.
[14:09] <alex88> jstoone: ok i won't deal with that :) thank you
[14:09] <jstoone> alex88: Have you tried to compile the pkg?
[14:10] <jstoone> alex88: Just want to make sure it works properly ;)
[14:10] <dr_willis> truepurple:  you could also try reencoding the video files with arista or winff, or ffmpeg or mencoder.
[14:10] <dr_willis> truepurple: http://www.kahunaburger.com/2010/01/30/fixing-an-avi-index-with-mencoder/
[14:10] <alex88> jstoone: i've done the ./configure for now and it says yes, i think it will work, btw, compiling :)
[14:11] <jstoone> truepurple: when it comes to encoding i've had the best results with ffmpeg or mencoder, that dr_willis mentioned.
[14:11] <ctjctj> truepurple: handbrake (available via a ppa) has a great gui for doing transcoding of video.
[14:11] <dr_willis> $ mencoder -idx in.avi -ovc copy -oac copy -o out.avi
[14:11] <jstoone> alex88: Glad to hear! Have a good one.
[14:12] <dr_willis> for Just fixing the index.. i imagine that mencoder line  above would be faster then reencoding. :)
[14:14] <truepurple> dr_willis, how do I get 1.2? and how do I get vlc to fix broken indexs?
[14:17] <rayra> hi~
[14:18] <adrellias> ?
[14:18] <compdoc> !
[14:18] <alex88> copying some folders to the root will merge them?
[14:19] <gertidon> question : how to select opera as default browser for a java application (jAlbum) which actually open chrome browser, my gnome/ubuntu say Opera is the default, but it doesn't work. Any idea ?
[14:25] <adrellias> ?
[14:26] <truepurple> dr_willis, will that link work with mkv's too?
[14:26] <dr_willis> truepurple: try it and see.
[14:27] <bhavesh> How can I bring all my applets back to Startup Applications list?
[14:27] <bhavesh> I did it a long back ago but forgot the dir location
[14:27] <dr_willis> !autostart
[14:27] <truepurple> dr_willis,  I need to set the terminal to the folder the video file is in?
[14:27] <dr_willis> or you mean !autorun
[14:27] <dr_willis> !autorun
[14:27] <dr_willis> truepurple:  or use the proper paths to the files... bash basics..
[14:27] <go8765> why python use 100% cpu on my computer? can I solve this?
[14:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> go8765 - what app are you running
[14:28] <bhavesh> dr_willis, Er, there are just 2 applications in my "Startup applications.." list
[14:28] <dr_willis>  /home/willis/.config/autostart/    :) is where things get auto-started from.. theres also the system wide /usr/share/autostart/ I think
[14:28] <dr_willis> and I think theres some xdg autostart also
[14:28] <bhavesh> k
[14:28] <go8765> RaTTuS|BIG, I try to change standart gnome menu ....
[14:29] <dr_willis>   /etc/xdg/autostart/
[14:29] <truepurple> dr_willis, Would you please help me figure out how to get your version of VLC though?
[14:29] <bhavesh> ok
[14:29] <KrisDouglas> How weird
[14:29] <dr_willis> truepurple:  EVERY verison of vlc i have used has worked to fix indexes for me.. for the last 2+ years.. on windows and linux.. im not using any special versions.
[14:30] <dr_willis> !info vlc
[14:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> go8765 - no idea sorry
[14:30] <go8765> anybody have the same problem with python? (100% cpu usage)
[14:31] <truepurple> dr_willis, So would  you please help me figure out why mine won't, and how to get 1.2?
[14:32] <dr_willis> truepurple:  no idea why its not. try the command given above - see if that fixs anything.
[14:33] <dr_willis> as for 1.2 - use a ppa i guess.. if one exists.
[14:34] <dr_willis> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/10/install-the-latest-vlc-media-player-setup-default-applications-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[14:36] <truepurple> dr_willis, could the fact that I am using 11.04 in classic mode have anything to do with it?
[14:36] <urthmover> Does anyone have experience with installing ubuntu on an apple xserve?
[14:37] <dr_willis> truepurple:  classic mode wont matter.. and  i doubt if using the older versions of vlc would matter either.
[14:38] <dr_willis> Hmm that site has some neat tips ive not seen befor.. like using 'tint2' to get a  taskbar at the bottom of unity.
[14:38] <dr_willis> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/10/add-taskbar-in-ubuntu-11-0411-10-with-panel-tint2/
[14:39] <dr_willis> bbl.
[14:40] <truepurple> ctjctj, Is this the instructions I want to follow? https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa? The ending of the instructions gets confusing. Where is it placed in classic menu once it is installed?
[14:41] <urthmover> when installing 11.04 on apple xserve I do not see an option to install EFI boot when partitioning my disks.  How do I resolve this?
[14:42] <gulzar> any password manager for gnome/lxde?
[14:42] <bhavesh> dr_willis, Well do u know from which folder is the list in "Startup application" GUI is loaded from? /usr/share/gnome/autostart/ ?
[14:43] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. Please what's the command again to restart LAN internet connection?
[14:44] <RaTTuS|BIG> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restsrt wh1zz0
[14:44] <RaTTuS|BIG> restart*
[14:44] <riffautae> gulzar: keepass is very cross platform
[14:49] <gulzar> riffautae: but it is in qt
[14:51] <caesargus> is there a way that I can sand box applications? so if they applications crash they don't take down my server?
[14:51] <theadmin> caesargus: chroot
[14:51] <theadmin> caesargus: Well, that's the closest idea anyway
[14:52] <caesargus> I would run chroot first, then execute the command?
[14:52] <caesargus> I thought that just limited the directory that it was in
[14:52] <theadmin> caesargus: Well, chroot basically means running another Linux install from inside the current one normally.
[14:52] <theadmin> caesargus: So, yeah, that will cut it
[14:52]  * caesargus goes off to read about chroot
[14:52] <axisys> how do I check if I my pcis support aspm?
[14:53] <axisys> pcie hardware that is
[14:54] <axisys> I am using a hp laptop 6730b running ubuntu 11.10
[14:54] <axisys> is there a aspm tool to check that? man -k aspm did not get me anything
[14:56] <Potatoe> I want to purchase a new video card. AGP with a HDMI out ( or DVI with an adapter ). I want it to work out of the box and be good with movies and stuff. Can anyone suggest a video card ?
[14:57]  * caesargus crosses fingers ... hopefully my server will survive with the chroot ....
[14:57] <caesargus> my server appears to be randomly restarting and my log files appear to have no indication as to what is causing the restart
[14:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> Potatoe http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=agp+video+card+hdmi&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1927411321588923766&sa=X&ei=W-a7TqvRO8HC8gOz_9GpBw&ved=0CDEQ8wIwAA
[14:58] <steveccc> does anyone know if ubuntu will read a max osx formatted disk?
[14:58] <steveccc> mac even
[14:58] <kamilnadeem> HI
[14:58] <Dren> ?
[14:58] <theadmin> steveccc: HFS? Yes.
[14:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> steveccc - probably
[14:59] <tonydeneline> hello friends.. I dont want to believe. but its real that the amd dont have support in ubuntu for radeom 6470m for ubuntu64???
[14:59] <gulzar> where is gote configuration files and notes stored?
[14:59] <tonydeneline> I already try this:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[14:59] <tonydeneline> but dont works
[14:59] <kamilnadeem> I am currently writing a blog post about Ubuntu and need your help, can some of you tell me what you get when you google "linux" ?
[15:00] <theadmin> kamilnadeem: Why don't you do that yourself?
[15:00] <kamilnadeem> I get ubuntu
[15:00] <RaTTuS|BIG> kamilnadeem http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[15:01] <kamilnadeem> man I am doing a quick survey
[15:01] <compdoc> Ubuntu is at the top, because they paid off google
[15:01] <theadmin> kamilnadeem: http://i.imm.io/bpJY.png - what I get
[15:01] <RaTTuS|BIG> I mean tonydeneline http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[15:02] <auronandace> kamilnadeem: this is the support channel, do you have a support question?
[15:02] <Potatoe> I asked here because I want to be sure it works out of the box with my ubuntu 10.04 :)
[15:03] <RaTTuS|BIG> Potatoe it should - hardware is hardware
[15:03] <michael> sup
[15:03] <kamilnadeem> Yes I know this is a support channel and what I was trying was to ask my readers to google linux and be astonished to find UBUntu as the top result , but you guys are on my case
[15:03] <theadmin> kamilnadeem: Not the case for me :P See the screenshot
[15:03] <Guest51919> could anybody tell me why ubuntu is telling me i only have 3.9 gb of ram, while at boot my bios is telling me i have 8gb?
[15:04] <kamilnadeem> yeah that is why I will edit that out
[15:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> Guest10662 - you need to run ubuntu 64
[15:04] <urthmover> isn't mint the most popular distro atm?
[15:04] <kamilnadeem> you talking distrowatch
[15:04] <Guest10662> RaTTuS|BIG, i like 32bit better
[15:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> 32bit cannot seem more than 4GB
[15:04] <tonydeneline> Thanks TattuS|Big: but it dont works for me
[15:04] <Guest10662> i only have 4gb
[15:04] <Guest51919> ohhh
[15:04] <Guest51919> i geddit
[15:04] <tonydeneline> RaTTuS|BIG: it dont works for me
[15:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> grr wrong guest
[15:04] <yogg> Hi
[15:04] <yogg> Is it possible to disable the dhcp3-server with the "/etc/default/dhcp3-server" config file? The only option I have found until now is to set the interfaces where the dhcp3server is listening.
[15:05] <Guest10662> :D
[15:05] <RaTTuS|BIG> Guest51919 you need ubuntu 64bit
[15:05] <tonydeneline> When I try, after restart, all the buttons and icons desapears
[15:05] <rumpe1> Guest51919, maybe 32bit edition on a 64bit platform?
[15:05] <kamilnadeem> thank you guys
[15:05] <kamilnadeem> take care
[15:05] <thiebaude> Guest51919, or the PAE kernel
[15:05] <Guest51919> RaTTus|BIG so if ill have to reinstall ubuntu to 64 bit
[15:06] <kke> downloaded ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.iso, ubuntu enterprise cloud setup tutorial says "select install ubuntu enterprise cloud from boot menu", but i don't see such option in the boot menu
  When I try, after restart, all the buttons and icons desapears
[15:06] <ctjctj> truepurple: Yes, those are the instructions.  It is in the media menu after installed.
[15:06] <gulzar> is it possible to open keepassx .kdb with other software?
[15:07] <RandomRoger> Is there is a reason that the gnome-shell packages produce a corrupt desktop ?
[15:07] <theadmin> RandomRoger: They normally do not.
[15:07] <ctjctj> how do I disable removable media automount in 11.10?
[15:07] <RandomRoger> It happens to me every single time, on Ubuntu and Kubuntu
[15:07] <RandomRoger> The Gnome desktop  is all corrupt
[15:07] <proxx> lol
[15:07] <ctjctj> RandomRoger: Does it happen when you switch windows?  I.e. to a different VT?
[15:08] <RandomRoger> No, it happens on login
[15:08] <RandomRoger> As soon as gnome loads the panels the icons and the fonts is all corrupt
[15:08] <theadmin> RandomRoger: Well, what do you mean by "corrupt"? Take a screenshot?
[15:08] <RandomRoger> K, let me try brb.
[15:08] <ctjctj> RandomRoger: It *might* be the video drivers.  I had the problem with nvidea drivers being the wrong ones.  Need the most current.
[15:09] <RandomRoger> Strange
[15:09] <RandomRoger> KDE runs like a champ
[15:09] <ctjctj> But that problem was limited to switching VTs.
[15:09] <RandomRoger> k brb trying to get SC
[15:09] <tonydeneline> hello? some one already deal with radeon 6470m in a ubuntu64?
[15:10] <RaTTuS|BIG> tonydeneline what is your problem
[15:10] <truepurple> ctjctj, there is no media menu, sound and video?
[15:10] <ctjctj> yes.
[15:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> )
[15:15] <david_1> hola
[15:15] <david_1> Hi
[15:15] <o0o0> hi david_1
[15:16] <david_1> I need help with xubuntu
[15:16] <david_1> necesito ayuda con xubuntu
 thanks for your attention. my problem is: I have a ubuntu 11.10 installed on my i5 64bits with a gpu radeon 6470m. I want to use the compiz or unity but it requires a graphic card (I have that one) but its not activated
[15:17] <o0o0> david_1, : speak freely
[15:17] <thiebaude> tonydeneline, have you tried additional drivers?
[15:17] <b0ot> tonydeneline, no one should use unity
[15:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> tonydeneline http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English work or not ?
 unfortunately, when I fallow the support amd (that one that you send me the link) it really install but my buttons and icons desapears
[15:17] <tonydeneline> not
[15:17] <twocarlo> david_1:  just ask
[15:17] <david_1> Hi, i need to now the configuration of  security of xubuntu
[15:17] <thiebaude> tonydeneline, i use ati radeon for 64bit but not your card
[15:18] <tonydeneline> well, this is the third time I reinstall my ubuntu
[15:18] <RaTTuS|BIG> aha - now that I cannot help with - I do have a 64xx card somewhere I could try ..... if I get some time - maybe today ...
[15:18] <david_1> how can i configured the security in xubuntu?
[15:18] <tonydeneline> because, I dont know how to reverse what I did
[15:18] <craig> I have sun-jre6 installed on one box, and am trying to install it on this one.  I can't for the life of me figure out which repo it comes from (both boxes appear to be using the same ones) and it's showing up in synaptic, so it must be in a repo somewhere, right?
[15:19] <tonydeneline> I just did (again) the securyty updates
[15:19] <tonydeneline> and now Im going to system settings -> aditional Drivers
[15:19] <theadmin> craig: It's in partner
[15:19] <tonydeneline> what apears???
[15:20] <thiebaude> tonydeneline, it should search for drivers
[15:20] <RandomRoger> Corrupt gnome-shell  11.10 . http://i44.tinypic.com/t9uski.jpg & http://i39.tinypic.com/l8xgx.jpg
[15:20] <tonydeneline> ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release updates)
[15:20] <theadmin> RandomRoger: Okay, that's weird
[15:20] <RandomRoger> Indeed
[15:20] <tonydeneline> and ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[15:20] <theadmin> tonydeneline: Install both.
[15:20] <thiebaude> tonydeneline, thats what i used
[15:20] <famine> when I boot up ubuntu it automatically logs in.  how can I stop that and have it ask for user/password ?
[15:21] <theadmin> famine: Search for "Login screen" or something in the settings
[15:21] <Aldus> hi. N00b question... In my Ubuntu main toolbar I have a tab for each window... I would like them to be grouped per application (like in windows). I.e. I have 15 different tabs for different skype chats!
[15:22] <david_1> where is the configuration of security in xububtu?
[15:22] <theadmin> Aldus: Um, that doesn't sound right -- I thought it groups them.
[15:22] <theadmin> david_1: What the hell do you mean by "security" anyway? Tons of things fall here.
[15:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> david_1 - what do you mean -
[15:22] <theadmin> Aldus: What Ubuntu version do you have?
[15:22] <MrJW> I get strange almost flickering/vibrating lines going scross my screen in 10.10 I've always had this issue with this specific computer across 2 other versions of Ubuntu. The video is integrated into the motherboard(ECS EliteGroup 761GX-M754 V3.0c). I've properly configured my xorg.conf file and everything is going well except the flickering lines. They appear to happen more when I click and drag things around the screen. Please help!
[15:22] <tonydeneline> thiebaude, the (post-release updates) dont finish the instalation
[15:23] <theadmin> tonydeneline: You need to install the actual driver first, and then the updates
[15:23] <thiebaude> umm thats strange
[15:23] <tonydeneline> and with just one... the efects dont apears
[15:23] <markus> er, hi all?
[15:23] <theadmin> tonydeneline: Did you reboot after installing it? Did you run "sudo aticonfig ---initial"?
[15:23] <MrJW> hi
[15:23] <warfaren> MrJW: is that screen tearing youve got?
[15:24] <markus> is this a place to just 'dump my issue'?
[15:24] <theadmin> markus: Sort of
[15:24] <markus> sort of?
[15:24] <tonydeneline> well, I tryed, but it says some thing dont founded
[15:24] <MrJW> warfaren, it looks very similair tp tearing yes.
[15:24] <markus> I have a problem with finding a suitable GUI for hamachi
[15:24] <markus> horrible stuff
[15:25] <tonydeneline> I will wait again for this installation to end, and tell you the intire message
[15:25] <warfaren> but can you see it if nothing is moving?
[15:25] <dr3mro> hello i finally managed to upload a package to ppa but it fails to build here is the log http://pastebin.com/jwDSfVX6
[15:25] <MrJW> warfaren yes but it is not as noticable
[15:25] <Aldus> theadmin, using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx ...
[15:26] <theadmin> Aldus: Oh, that doesn't group indeed, I'm not sure how to do it with gnome2
[15:26] <Aldus> theadmin, is there a (not painful) quick way to switch to a newer version without losing stuff?
[15:26] <theadmin> Aldus: No, not really.
[15:26] <dddbmt> Evening guys! I am running 11.10 on a laptop. I've attached a seperate monitor through VGA and everything works perfectly. But is there a way to get a "Global menu bar" on both screens? Each only representing the programs running on the same screen.
[15:26] <Aldus> theadmin, hah ok
[15:26] <Aldus> thanks
[15:26] <markus> My Haguichi configure button doesn work because of: You do not have permission to control the hamachid daemon.
[15:27] <warfaren> hm strange..
[15:27] <markus> thats what debug says when I run haguichi --debug
[15:27] <KrisDouglas> dddbmt, weirdly, it just works for me
[15:27] <markus> it says a load more, but I think this causes the problem
[15:27] <proxx> dddbmt: haha, yeah good luck with that on unity :P :P
[15:27]  * conntrack back flips
[15:27] <theadmin> markus: Try it with sudo?
[15:27] <dddbmt> proxx, I take that as a no? ;)
[15:27] <MrJW> warfaren, sould it be my integrated SiS video?
[15:27] <dddbmt> KrisDouglas, What works?
[15:27] <KrisDouglas> dddbmt, how did you configure the addition of the external display and on which card is it?
[15:27] <markus> I tried but it throws an exception
[15:28] <KrisDouglas> dddbmt, panel on each screen
[15:28] <markus> on Haguichiś Main
[15:28] <david_1> i have the last version, is my first time in linux so i didn't now about security in xubuntu. i now  i can to modified the firewall in windows. but i don't now anything  about security in xubuntu.
[15:28] <markus> You do not have permission to control the hamachid daemon.
[15:28] <markus> Unhandled Exception: System.Exception: Unable to open the session message bus
[15:28] <proxx> dddbmt: you could check out compiz and hack around it, but uhm not i wouldnt know any other way, anyone else ?
[15:28] <auronandace> !ufw | david_1
[15:29] <dddbmt> KrisDouglas, Geforce GT 550M. I configured the display with System Settings -> Displays ?
[15:29] <dddbmt> proxx, I allready got compiz installed (for exposé) but I'd like a "native" solution if there is one.
[15:30] <theadmin> david_1: Just don't worry about that stuff, you don't need it
[15:30] <auronandace> david_1: theadmin is right, the defaults are fine, the biggest security risk is the user
[15:31] <auronandace> david_1: you just need to know what you are doing
[15:31] <markus> so I would try to remove the need of having root privs from the hamachi daemon, but I dont know where to start with that
[15:31] <KrisDouglas> dddbmt, Try enabling twinview with the nvidia settings tool. Thats how I did it and it worked. It didn't work when I used the Ubuntu monitors settings
[15:31] <proxx> KrisDouglas, dddbmt >> hes using  randr
[15:31] <markus> or I should find another way to give Haguichi root privs
[15:31] <proxx> he cant use nvidia settings, hes using ironhide right ?
[15:32] <david_1> ok thanks you
[15:32] <dddbmt> proxx, honestly - I am not sure what I'm using. How do I check that?
[15:32] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody knows a good delphi compiler?
[15:33] <proxx> dddbmt can you use nvidia-settings ?
[15:33] <KrisDouglas> can you access nvidia-settings?
[15:33] <KrisDouglas> lol.
[15:33] <proxx> i made the assumtion that you ahve switched settings
[15:33] <proxx> settings = graphics
[15:33] <dddbmt> proxx, when I open it, it tells me I am not using nvidia x driver.
[15:33] <markus> theadmin: any ideas?
[15:33] <RandomRoger> Oh well, Will just stick with KDE anything
[15:33] <RandomRoger> anyhow*
[15:33] <dddbmt> ^ for KrisDouglas
[15:33] <proxx> dddbmt: and you can use monitors right ?
[15:33] <theadmin> markus: Nay
[15:34] <dddbmt> proxx, I am using both monitors right now?
[15:34] <KrisDouglas> dddbmt, sounds like you're using the open source driver
[15:34] <markus> I tried Hamachi-GUI too, but that hangs on 'starting hamachi'
[15:34] <proxx> dddbmt: lol i meant the tool :P
[15:34] <truepurple> This site https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa, says "You'll see that the text-box directly below reads something like this ...Copy those lines." copy, as in input them into terminal too?
[15:34] <Chat3180> Hello
[15:35] <dddbmt> KrisDouglas, are you running twin view - with same image on both screens?
[15:36] <proxx> dddbmt: you have a new laptop right ?
[15:36] <dddbmt> proxx, yes. a few weeks old. Asus N43S
[15:37] <KrisDouglas> dddbmt, twinview is the nvidia version of having two screens you can move stuff between
[15:37] <Bennit> How do I force gettext to be installed with version gettext-0.18.1 ?
[15:37] <dddbmt> uh uh, and it's "Windows 7 optimized" :P
[15:37] <Bennit> (I'm on lucid)
[15:37] <proxx> dddbmt: exactly, based on your card i assumed so, you should install ironhide, to use your full graphic acceleration ,
[15:37] <KrisDouglas> !ironhide
[15:37] <proxx> dddbmt: but thats a bit off topic :P
[15:38] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anybody knows a good delphi compiler for ubuntu?
[15:38] <dddbmt> proxx, ironhide does what for me? Compared to the nvidia drivers?
[15:39] <KrisDouglas> proxx, dddbmt, I was thinking that, never herd of ironhide
[15:39] <KrisDouglas> I just used the driver from the nvidia website
[15:39] <proxx> dddbmt: wont really help your menu problem :P, for that i dont have an awnser sorry,   uhm well ironhide  allows you to use ur nvidia card. coz its not suported by nvidia itself
[15:39] <apwbdjp> Hey everyone
[15:40] <KrisDouglas> Um_cara_qualquer, I am not sure if it is still functional, but I have used Lazarus in the past. lazarus.freepascal.org
[15:40] <dddbmt> KrisDouglas, I heard bad stuff will happen to you if you install from the website. What happens I don't know though ;) Something with kernel updates
[15:40] <KrisDouglas> dddbmt, that is fixed by installing DKMS (Dynamic Kernel Module Support) seems to solve the problem for me
[15:40] <proxx> dddbmt: the whole optimus techonology that ur machine uses basically says, screw linux users, thats why you really should check it out, i think its in the repos
[15:40] <apwbdjp> I've been trying, for a while, to make a mobile broadband usb modem work on Ubuntu 11.04
[15:40] <KrisDouglas> I can install a new kernel with these drivers from update manager and my graphics don't break
[15:40] <dddbmt> KrisDouglas, okay - again I don't know why it's a bad thing - just been told it is. (In here actually)
[15:41] <theadmin> apwbdjp: You likely need usb_modeswitch
[15:41] <absence> anyone know if there are logs from fsck when it runs during boot? google suggests /var/log/fsck, but those files were last updated in 2009
[15:41] <truepurple>  This site https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa, says "You'll see that the text-box directly below reads something like this ...Copy those lines." copy, as in input them into terminal too?
[15:41] <apwbdjp> It's working from wvdial (which is pretty primitive, needs sudo privileges, and loses connexions every once in a while)
[15:41] <dddbmt> proxx, okay - I'll definitly do that :)
[15:41] <theadmin> apwbdjp: Soo... What is the problem?
[15:41] <Jay_Jay> Hello
[15:42] <theadmin> apwbdjp: If wvdial works you can as well install gnome-ppp and use that
[15:42] <SinusPi> you guys lied to me yesterday! *pout*
[15:42] <apwbdjp> Hum.. when I plug it in, nm-applet says it recognises it, and tries to connect with it
[15:42] <proxx> dddbmt: solved a problem you didnt know existed :P hehe , check software center, or synaptic for that
[15:42] <proxx> dddbmt: it at least saves you battery power
[15:42] <SinusPi> You said there's no way to install Ubuntu from Windows without rebooting; what the heck is WUBI for, then...
[15:42] <theadmin> SinusPi: Wubi is for idiots.
[15:42] <theadmin> SinusPi: ;)
[15:42] <SinusPi> no matter.
[15:43] <theadmin> SinusPi: Seriously? All it gives you is a broken system.
[15:43] <theadmin> SinusPi: Do you want? Doubt it.
[15:43] <SinusPi> no matter really.
[15:43] <dddbmt> proxx, it sounds great! And it should be pretty easy to get running?
[15:43] <SinusPi> yes, I do want, actually. :>
[15:43] <KrisDouglas> i know someone that uses WUBI actually
[15:43] <Um_cara_qualquer> KrisDouglas, thx
[15:43] <weloki> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 (lucid) server and i installed clamav, but the freshclam command doesn't do anything. how can I manually update the virus database?
[15:43] <KrisDouglas> appears to work fine for them, a tiny bit slow however
[15:43] <proxx> dddbmt: yeah pretty straight forward through gui menus
[15:43] <apwbdjp> but it does no more than try, the green led keeps flashing on it, and nothing
[15:44] <dddbmt> proxx, fantastic! Thanks for enlighten me! :P
[15:44] <apwbdjp> But it's not what I'm asking for, actually, here's the true thing
[15:44] <SinusPi> question: how should I _manually_ edit XP boot files, so that a HDD boots into Ubuntu?  I have an XP drive pulled from a laptop and connected via USB to my desktop here; I need to install Ubuntu on THAT drive, without breaking my own MBR on my W7 box here.
[15:44] <proxx> dddbmt: most welcome, iam hope to give back to the community
[15:44] <dddbmt> proxx++
[15:44] <apwbdjp> On a friend's computer (who was using 10.xx), it always worked fine
[15:44] <proxx> dddbmt meant happy
[15:44] <apwbdjp> By worked fine, I mean worked right from the network manager
[15:45] <Jay_Jay> anybody using xfce?
[15:45] <SinusPi> Reading through WUBI docs, I see it'll modify my CURRENT boot sequence, on the desktop, that is. I don't want that. I want to edit the boot sequence for drive E: (the USB enclosure) so that I can put it back into the laptop and have it friggin' boot.
[15:45] <apwbdjp> He backed up his home folder, zeroed his hardrive, and installed 11.04
[15:45] <soroush> hi, I have just bought a laptop with ubuntu. It has ubuntu 10.10! I want to upgrade but I'm afraid if the drivers wouldn't be available after the upgrade. How can I get sure that i will not have such a problem?
[15:45] <apwbdjp> The modem stopped working.
[15:45] <dddbmt> proxx, that's how it should be! Unfortunately you'll bump into people who think otherwise, from time to time.
[15:45] <apwbdjp> He copied his home folder back to its place: It worked again!
[15:45] <apwbdjp> So, does network-manager keep some config files, device rules, or something, on the home folder?
[15:46] <proxx> :)
[15:46] <theadmin> Jay_Jay: Me.
[15:46] <apwbdjp> Just so I can see what's the difference between his config and mine
[15:46] <anqi> 折呢
[15:46] <proxx> soroush: why would that be ?
[15:46] <anqi> 你们好啊
[15:46] <Jay_Jay> quit
[15:46] <theadmin> apwbdjp: "his"? So girls are not welcome? :P
[15:46] <theadmin> anqi: English please
[15:47] <anqi> ....
[15:47] <anqi> no
[15:47] <SinusPi> anqi: dupa
[15:47] <theadmin> anqi: What is your native language?
[15:47] <theadmin> anqi: I can't tell from those glyphs... Japanese?
[15:47] <Lostmonk> hey peoples
[15:47] <SinusPi> chinese, likely.
[15:47] <SinusPi> no kana.
[15:47] <Lostmonk> so, I have been trying for 3 days now to get 11.10 to see my ipod touch
[15:47] <apwbdjp> theadmin, sure they are ^^
[15:47] <DJones> !cn | anqi
[15:48] <theadmin> SinusPi: Oh, yeah... Kanji and chinese are too alike though
[15:48] <SinusPi> umm... Chinese USE Kanji...
[15:48] <theadmin> SinusPi: Oh lol
[15:48] <Comnenus> I'm running 10.04 LTS.  Is there an additional repo to get newer nvidia drivers than 185?
[15:48] <theadmin> SinusPi: I'm not too into all that (unless countless anime counts xD)
[15:48] <SinusPi> both Japanese and Chinese use kanji, they just interpret some signs differently.
[15:49] <SinusPi> however, Japanese have kana and Chinese don't. End of difference ;P
[15:49] <KrisDouglas> theadmin, don't mention anime, I am supposed to be working and you're distracting me :)
[15:49] <theadmin> KrisDouglas: lol :P
[15:50] <SinusPi> So, again... how would I use WUBI to have it work on a USB drive and make THAT bootable into Ubuntu, not even touching my current main HDD setup?
[15:50] <Lostmonk> anyone here have an ipod with ios5 working with ubuntu?
[15:51] <anqi> Sorry , I can't speak Englis
[15:51] <theadmin> SinusPi: You can't use wubi for that, but you can use unetbootin...
[15:51] <SinusPi> theadmin: what's that..?
[15:51] <theadmin> SinusPi: A tool to install Ubuntu onto USB drives and such
[15:51] <SinusPi> bummer.
[15:52] <SinusPi> the lappy can't boot from usb.
[15:52] <truepurple>  This site https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa, says "You'll see that the text-box directly below reads something like this ...Copy those lines." copy, as in input them into terminal too?
[15:52] <szal> !cn | anqi
[15:52] <h4> hello im trying to get my data from a hitachi harddrive formated in mac OS
[15:52] <KrisDouglas> SinusPi, Can you not use a disk?
[15:52] <soroush> proxx: before I had a dell and whenever I upgraded I had to find the drivers on line to install them but I don't have access to non wireless internet so if it will be serious problem to upgrade and I would perfer not to upgraede up to april
[15:52] <SinusPi> KrisDouglas: no CD booting, either. It's some SNAFU, but I can only boot it from its own HDD.
[15:52] <anqi> No one
[15:52] <SinusPi> So, I need to make THAT HDD bootable into Ubuntu... or into ANYTHING really >_<
[15:53] <proxx> soroush: and how about using a seperate partition to test it out ?
[15:53] <przemek_pl> hello
[15:54] <anqi> Why should
[15:54] <szal> anqi: make sense or stop it please
[15:54] <monitor_superman> anyone úsed fedora 16 , can give me a review ?
[15:54] <szal> monitor_superman: wrong channel
[15:55] <twocarlo> hehehe!
[15:55] <h4> hello im trying to get my data from a hitachi harddrive formated in mac OS
[15:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> h4 mac os as in hfs?
[15:58] <ikonia> h4: there is sold hfs read capabilities
[15:58] <szal> who sells HFS read capabilities?
[15:58] <ikonia> no-one sells it
[15:58] <przemek_pl> :)
[15:58] <ikonia> it's part of the linux kernel
[15:58] <ikonia> solid
[15:58] <ikonia> not sold
[15:59] <soroush> proxx: It has only one partition that couldn-t be un mounted. but i think It would be a good Idea if i try ubuntu on usb!
[15:59] <przemek_pl> it means you can read data, but not modify / delete etc.
[15:59] <joe_> I have a multi monitor system. It's set up so that each monitor isnt mirrored and has its own space. However, I want the monitor on the right to be the primary monitor while the one on the left will be the extra workspace. So far i can only get the monitor on the left to be the primary display
[16:00] <joe_> anyone know how to change it or have a link which explains it
[16:00] <dr_willis> joe_:  what chipset
[16:00] <proxx> soroush: yeah, it runs fine of usb , good idea, you could also resize the partition from a live cd , allthough you could brick your partition, ive done it multiple time with succes.
[16:00] <joe_> dr_willis, ati
[16:00] <anqi> Why here to speak more English
[16:01] <joe_> its the HD 3450 video card
[16:01] <RaTTuS|BIG> anqi what is your ubuntu question
[16:01] <dr_willis> job_: try that ati controllpanel program?
[16:01] <Mati89> hey!
[16:02] <przemek_pl> hello
[16:02] <soroush> proxx: thanks!
[16:02] <joe_> dr_willis, i did. Like i said, i can get both displays working with their own desktop but the monitor on the left is always the primary. I don't see an option to set which monitor is the primary
[16:02] <proxx> soroush: your welcome :)
[16:03] <anqi> 我英语很差
[16:03] <dr_willis> i know nvidia has the setting. joe_  i dont use ati.
[16:03] <anqi> My English is so bad
[16:03] <qui-gon> greetings
[16:03] <pangolin> anqi: please use #ubuntu-cn for Chinese language support
[16:03] <szal> anqi: then stop bragging about it & join one of the Chinese channels if you have something Ubuntu-related to ask
[16:03] <joe_> hmmm
[16:04] <przemek_pl> joe_: my option is very simple. can you change cables? might be very stupid suggestion.
[16:04] <joe_> maybe i will throw the gt240 card kicking around in to the computer
[16:04] <joe_> przemek_pl, can't. One is hooked up via DVI while the other is VGA
[16:04] <qui-gon> is this the place to find linux support and maybe learn some more...?
[16:04] <joe_> hmm
[16:04] <joe_> actually
[16:04] <pangolin> qui-gon: this channel is specific for Ubuntu
[16:04] <proxx> qui-gon: for ubuntu
[16:05] <proxx> lol
[16:05] <joe_> i might be able to switch the cables on the monitor
[16:05] <joe_> s
[16:05] <Uranellus> !jp | anqi
[16:05] <przemek_pl> qui-gon: yes
[16:05] <wissam> Hi , there is no sound in smplayer ,i have ubuntu 10.10 .any help please .
[16:05] <qui-gon> yeah i'm on Jaunty
[16:05] <qui-gon> for years now
[16:05] <proxx> qui-gon: but i think a little general linux question wouldnt be that bad :P
[16:05] <qui-gon> no support though
[16:05] <szal> qui-gon: high time to upgrade, /me thinks
[16:05] <przemek_pl> wissam: what about other apps?
[16:05] <joe_> I got a third monitor coming today. Maybe I'll wait until it shows up so i can configure everything at once
[16:05] <truepurple>  This site https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa, says "You'll see that the text-box directly below reads something like this ...Copy those lines." copy, as in input them into terminal too?
[16:06] <pangolin> proxx: in fact it would, it distracts from the topic.
[16:06] <wissam> przemek_pl: movie player is ok
[16:06] <proxx> oke sorry
[16:07] <qui-gon> can't upgrade without puttin in some serious  hours cause my machine can't take newer distros
[16:07] <przemek_pl> wissam: you mast go and change some options. most likely wrong output method /  plugin is in use. or perhaps your volume is set to zero. ubuntu is using pulse audio. you can set alsa as output as well.
[16:07] <proxx> qui-gon: your not making any sense
[16:08] <alazare619> does anyone happen to know of a great alternative to vlc that is gtk or even a frontend to vlc thats gtk?
[16:08] <Guest78059> hi. I am new to this chat usually on linux mint, just wanted to ask if Ubuntu 11.10 should be a bit more CPU intensive than linux Julia ?
[16:08] <Guest78059> appear not to have a ¨nick"either
[16:08] <qui-gon> well,anytime i try some newer distro via live cd or usb,x crashes so i can't see nothin
[16:08] <przemek_pl> alazare619: mplayer and as frontend gnome-mplayer.
[16:08] <proxx> Guest78059 lol ubuntu is one of the heaviest distros out there, probably yes
[16:09] <edbian> Guest78059: They're probably about the same resource usage
[16:09] <Guest78059> I am using an IBM think pad X60s and I jst tried mint on it a few hours ago and it was faster
[16:10] <edbian> Guest78059: Well then you have your answer :)
[16:10] <Guest78059> but the video speed and quality is better on the 11.10
[16:10] <przemek_pl> Guest78059: than use mint :)
[16:10] <proxx> Guest78059 mint , mainline is based upon ubuntu
[16:10] <alazare619> przemek_pl, trying to rid myself of qt apps all together got rid of filezilla in favor of gftp only vlc is left to rid myself of
[16:10] <proxx> Guest78059 mint debian would be a better choice imo
[16:10] <Guest78059> OK
[16:10] <proxx> Guest78059 , i mean ubuntu sux :P
[16:11] <Laurenceb> hi
[16:11] <Guest78059> I think I will try this out for a few weeks as it is a good distro
[16:11] <Laurenceb> i cant make bluetooth work
[16:11] <qui-gon> proxx: i haven't used IRC since 1991...i'm scared a bit
[16:11] <wissam> przemek_pl: smplayer plays mp3 fine but no sound in DVDs or 3gp files for example
[16:11] <Laurenceb> sudo rfcomm connect 3 --raw Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Device or resource busy
[16:11] <proxx> qui-gon .. just ask a question in one line plz
[16:12] <Guest78059> one quick thing, on my other PC which has mint I log in as kevin here I am guest78059 how do I change it to my name
[16:12] <Kentrel> Hey, I've lost the ability to Hibernate. It just locks the screen instead
[16:12] <vdrandom> hey there. have problems with BCM4313 wireless adapter. both sta packages and bcmwl-kerenel-source are installed, all unneded modules are disabled. Get stuck at "waiting for authorization".
[16:12] <przemek_pl> wissam: you must install additional components. try opening dvd in totem. it will tell you what you have to install. same with 3gp.
[16:13] <qui-gon> proxx: sorry i will.But i have to do that later,work is calling.thank you for understanding!!!
[16:13] <fokuslee> playing stone soup at work awesome!!
[16:14] <wissam> przemek_pl: i've installed them ,everything is ok with totem .
[16:15] <przemek_pl> wissam: smplayer is an mplayer frontend. problem is there. don't know how to help you.
[16:15] <Jordan_U> Guest78059: You need to use a nick that hasn't already been taken. Pretty much all common first-name-only nicks were taken long ago.
[16:16] <wissam> przemek_pl: ok thnx
[16:17] <Guest78059> Jordan_U, OK I have to do this via nickserve correct
[16:17] <Jordan_U> Guest78059: You change your nick with "/nick new_nick" then if you want to register the new nick (a good idea) you do that with nickserv.
[16:17] <Jordan_U> !register | Guest78059
[16:18] <Guest78059> ok guys thanks for your help
[16:18] <Jordan_U> Guest78059: You're welcome.
[16:18] <fokuslee> i upgraded to 11.10 now restart does not work, and power off does not work
[16:19] <przemek_pl> wissam: my opinion is you have to setup smplayer correctly. maybe chose properly your dvd drive. should be /dev/dvdrw or something similar.
[16:19] <Laurenceb> can anyone help me with bluetooth?
[16:19] <Laurenceb> /etc/init.d/bluetooth start ~$ /etc/init.d/bluetooth status * bluetooth is not running
[16:19] <Laurenceb> ^why
[16:21]  * fokuslee BRB
[16:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> Laurenceb cat /var/log/syslog
[16:21] <przemek_pl> Laurenceb: your device is unsupported / unplugged / or switched off.
[16:21] <dpreacher> where do I ask for help with GNOME issues?
[16:21] <Jordan_U> dpreacher: If you're using Ubuntu, then here works.
[16:21] <szal> dpreacher: if you run Ubuntu, then here
[16:22] <Jordan_U> dpreacher: There is also #gnome, but I don't know how active that is.
[16:22] <DJones> Laurenceb: Don't know if this is anything to do with that error, I struggled getting bluetooth running on my laptop, the solution was to boot into windows, switch the adapter off in windows & then reboot into ubuntu, that reset the on/off status of the adapter
[16:23] <dpreacher> Jordan_U: szal I have an issue with the Clock applet. I'm preparing a screenshot, but thing is dialog is opening with > 50% of it above the screen area. Not possible to see
[16:23] <Laurenceb> ok, power cycling adaptor worked
[16:23] <Laurenceb> but now sudo rfcomm connect 3 --raw Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Device or resource busy
[16:23] <llutz> Laurenceb: rfcomm -a
[16:24] <dpreacher> is it ok to paste imgur.com links here?
[16:24] <dpreacher> for a screenshot..
[16:24] <llutz> Laurenceb: rfcomm release 3 && rfcomm connect 3
[16:24] <Laurenceb> makes no difference
[16:24] <przemek_pl> dpreacher: should be ok.
[16:24] <Laurenceb> theres no /dev/rfcomm3
[16:24] <Jordan_U> dpreacher: Yes.
[16:25] <dpreacher> thanks
[16:25] <BrixSat> hey
[16:25] <Laurenceb>  no such device'
[16:25] <robo_> hello: is there a way to do an apt-cache search on  a specific repo?
[16:25] <BrixSat> im having a problem compiling a linux driver Makefile:93: /lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/build/.config: No such file or directory :(
[16:26] <Osmodivs> Hello. I have an Acer ONE D250 NetBook, after an upgrade I can't run Ubuntu, I'm in recovery mode, Why can't I get in the normal way?
[16:26] <Osmodivs> I have to enter GRUB so I can enter recovery
[16:27] <dpreacher> http://i.imgur.com/Z3b5D.png as u can see i can only view the calendar part of the dialog. I have additional clocks to view above that which are above screen area
[16:28] <dpreacher> Jordan_U: ^
[16:28] <Jordan_U> dpreacher: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:28] <dpreacher> maverick
[16:28] <BrixSat> im having a problem compiling a linux driver Makefile:93: /lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/build/.config: No such file or directory :(
[16:28] <dpreacher> Jordan_U: maverick
[16:32] <kitche2> BrixSat do you have teh linux-kernel-dev installed?
[16:32] <BrixSat> nope that package does not exist
[16:33] <kitche2> BrixSat sure it does that's not it's actual name
[16:33] <czz> how do i get the lastest version of flash for ubuntu 11.10?
[16:33] <BrixSat> kitche2:  what will be the name?
[16:34] <jtreminio> Morning. I'm trying to assign the current working directory to a variable in a bash script: current_dir=`${PWD##*/}`  -- how do I get it to NOT echo and simply assign it?
[16:35]  * fokuslee back
[16:35] <Jordan_U> jtreminio: Why are you using backticks?
[16:36] <jtreminio> Jordan_U, They're not needed, but it doesn't solve the issue I'm having
[16:37] <QQQQQQQ> HI!
[16:37] <Guest62561> when is there a update for thunderbird
[16:37] <BrixSat> kitche2:  please what will the package name be?
[16:37] <dpreacher> hello. i had got disconnected. usual network provider routine
[16:38] <kitche2> BrixSat linux-sources. I had to look it up be patient since I don't use Ubuntu
[16:38] <Jordan_U> jtreminio: What issue are you having? This will set a variable to the current working directory without echoing anything: current_dir="$PWD"
[16:38] <dpreacher> Jordan_U: any suggestion how to bring the dialog box down?
[16:38] <tonydeneline> hello agayn,, after install drivers with aditional drivers I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/734355/
[16:38] <Jordan_U> dpreacher: No.
[16:38] <tonydeneline> its because...???
[16:38] <tonydeneline> hello agayn,, after install drivers with aditional drivers I got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/734355/
[16:38] <jtreminio> $PWD gives me full path, I simply need parent folder name
[16:38] <tonydeneline> I dont know why
[16:39] <jtreminio> Jordan_U, $PWD gives me full path, I simply need parent folder name
[16:39] <dpreacher> Jordan_U: where else to try?
[16:39] <truepurple>  This site https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa, says "You'll see that the text-box directly below reads something like this ...Copy those lines." copy, as in input them into terminal too?
[16:39] <dpreacher> on irc
[16:39] <BrixSat> kitche2:  E: Couldn't find package linux-sources
[16:39] <Jordan_U> jtreminio: current_dir="${PWD##*/}"
[16:40] <Jordan_U> jtreminio: Your only problem was using ` instead of ".
[16:40] <josephnexus> on 11.10, i occasionally don't see my theme fully loading (icons are not loading, they are all the blank pages, and nautilus is really ugly as none of the theme is applied)  Is anyone else running into this?
[16:41] <llutz> jtreminio: parent dir?    $(dirname $PWD)
[16:42] <Guest62561> when thunderbird 8 for ubuntu 10.01
[16:45] <splnet> Is it possible to connect 2 external monitors to my laptop? gnome-display-properties says no
[16:46] <Abhijit> !dualhead | splnet
[16:46] <Abhijit> !Xenrama
[16:46] <Abhijit> !Xenerama
[16:47] <josephnexus> splnet: that raelly depends on your card
[16:47] <josephnexus> most laptops don't support that
[16:47] <Abhijit> !xinerama | splnet
[16:47] <imbezol> !Xinerama
[16:47] <josephnexus> usually only one of the monitor ports is available for use at a time
[16:47] <josephnexus> not both
[16:47] <splnet> josephnexus: ah ok. I have a monitor plugged into the dvi and vga
[16:48] <truepurple> Could I please get some help understanding certain instructions?
[16:48]  * cce wonders if there is a way to somewhat easily switch from 32 bit to 64 bit
[16:48] <josephnexus> most display adapters will only let you use the laptop screen plus one other, not the laptop plus two others
[16:48] <josephnexus> does that make sense splnet
[16:48] <llutz> cce: no
[16:49] <cce> llutz: okies, buy a new hard drive and do it from scratch then?
[16:49] <luist> hey… i made a persistent Live USB with ubuntu and some customization…. how do i make a Live CD out of it?
[16:49] <Guest62561> where is there a update to thunderbird 8.0 in ubuntu
[16:49] <dr3mro> hello i have created a package with some bash scripts and python scripts the package just copy them into /usr/bin .. and i made it by debuild -S and uploaded it into launchpad by dput .. but it fails to build ??? can anyone help me ? why to build there is nothing to build
[16:49] <splnet> josephnexus: so you think its a driver issue as opposed to Xorg config issue?
[16:49]  * cce needs to run 64bit guest images under kvm...
[16:49] <dr3mro> hello i have created a package with some bash scripts and python scripts the package just copy them into /usr/bin .. and i made it by debuild -S and uploaded it into launchpad by dput .. but it fails to build ??? can anyone help me ? why to build there is nothing to build
[16:49] <llutz> cce: no need to buy new harddrives, but yes, reinstall from zero is the easiest way
[16:49] <josephnexus> splnet: most likely, what type of graphics card is it?
[16:49] <josephnexus> (you can pm me if you'd like, to avoid the noise in the channel)
[16:49] <BrixSat> kitche2:  solved :) thanks
[16:49] <cce> llutz: well, one needs to have a backup ;)
[16:50] <llutz> cce: ok then, but HDDs are .... expensive atm
[16:50] <proxx> lol they are
[16:50] <proxx> some factory flushed away
[16:51]  * cce hasn't looked at HDD prices in 2 years... how much did they go up?
[16:51] <josephnexus> enough
[16:51] <josephnexus> SSD isn't bad
[16:51] <josephnexus> but it's always been pricey
[16:51] <llutz> cce: abt 120% in DE within 2 months
[16:52] <cce> If you were to get a solid-state laptop HDD, for Dell E6510, with resonable capability what would you look at?
[16:52] <dr3mro> hello i have created a package with some bash scripts and python scripts the package just copy them into /usr/bin .. and i made it by debuild -S and uploaded it into launchpad by dput .. but it fails to build ??? can anyone help me ? why to build there is nothing to build
[16:53] <deej1976> dr3mro: Can you repaste your pastebin link?
[16:54] <dr3mro> deej1976, this is  the lauchpad log http://pastebin.com/jwDSfVX6
[16:55] <luist> hey… i made a persistent Live USB with ubuntu and some customization…. how do i make a Live CD out of it?
[16:56] <proxx> quick and dirty ? , make iso use unetbootin
[16:58] <bozleh> anyone able to help me diagnose my troubles with compiz/unity3d in 11.10?
[16:58] <josephnexus> bozleh: what problem are you having?
[16:59] <proxx> bring it on
[16:59] <bozleh> well after a successful install - if i try to start a unity3d session all i get is a desktop background and mouse cursor - all i can do is restart lightdm
[16:59] <bozleh> i can start a unity 2d session fine though
[17:00] <josephnexus> what graphics card are you using?
[17:00] <josephnexus> and what driver for it?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> bozleh: what is the output of: lsbci | grep -i vga
[17:03] <gage_bw> Hey all. I have an ubuntu installation / UNetbootin question: I've used the same USB stick for eeebuntu 8.10, xubuntu 11.10, and lubuntu 11.10. Will this cause problems, or is the installer smart enough to avoid choking on the extra files?
[17:04] <proxx> my first bet would be that it would overwrite others, but its not that hard to setup grub on a usb key
[17:04] <bozleh> woah sorry i dropped out, accidentaly started compiz and had to restart X
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: should be fine but 8.10 is EOL and eeebuntu isn't supported here
[17:05] <bozleh> okay so I have an ATI HD3850, using the open sourceATI drivers
[17:05] <proxx> does glxgears run
[17:05] <Haeks> Hello
[17:05] <proxx> or glxspheres ?
[17:05] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: Right, that's why I'm upgrading from eeebuntu 8.10. I haven't successfully installed either xu- or lu-, though
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: sweet
[17:06] <Haeks> Can anyone help with enabling desktop sharing on a fresh fully updated 11.10 ubuntu install?
[17:06] <gage_bw> I'm considering heading to walmart and buying a brand new USB stick for this purpose
[17:07] <bozleh> okay glxgears just opens a black window with nothing inside
[17:07] <proxx> oke then ur video card is not working
[17:07] <proxx> fix that first
[17:08] <Haeks> Aynone have experience with desktop sharing on 11.10 I tried just about everything to get it working
[17:08] <sskalnik> Anyone knowledgeable about preseeding a RAID config?
[17:08] <proxx> Haeks: tried ubuntu documentation ?
[17:09] <drey> So, when I may have run a killall Xorg because a session was playing up. Now I can no longer login as that user (screen flashes to black and drops straight back to login screen). I've created a new user and can login fine with it and then su to the other user, when I logout of that I get a 'Sessions still open, not unmounting' is there anyway to recover that user?
[17:09] <Jordan_U> gage_bw: Why would you need a new USB drive?
[17:09] <Haeks> Yeah I did, I have a fresh install of ubuntu desktop and went to "desktop sharing" enabled what I needed and -- nothing
[17:09] <Haeks> I had it working since 6.10 no problems
[17:10] <bozleh> thanks proxx, any idea where to start? the ATI open source drivers should "just work" right
[17:10] <proxx> bozleh: yeah sorry i never used ati, propriatary drivers ?
[17:10] <Haeks> proxx: It broke on 11.04->11.10 update so I did a fresh install but that didnt help
[17:10] <sskalnik> Early in the preseed process, I have this line:
[17:10] <sskalnik> d-i preseed/early_command string /usr/bin/wget -O ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/partman-auto-raid/partman-auto-raid_7_all.udeb && udpkg -i /tmp/raid.udeb
[17:10] <sskalnik> That's where it's failing.
[17:11] <bozleh> proxx: i installed em and had the exact same problems with compiz/unity3d
[17:11] <gage_bw> Jordan_U: Just put lubuntu on this one, but the 'Check disc for defects' selection tells me it's no good. I'm going to try to install *anyway* before I buy another stick, though.
[17:11] <proxx> Haeks: pff yeah kinda hard to debug , as i dont have any details.
[17:11] <nyuszika7h> Hi, how can I permanently change hostname in Ubuntu?
[17:11] <llutz> !hostname | nyuszika7h
[17:11] <nyuszika7h> thanks
[17:12] <proxx> bozleh: that sux dude, cant help you with that :S search for your specific card on google i guess
[17:12] <bozleh> proxx: cheers anyway
[17:12] <Jordan_U> gage_bw: If the integrity check fails then don't install from it. Even if installation succeeds whatever was corrupted might cause unexpected problems in the future.
[17:12] <Jordan_U> gage_bw: Also, check the md5sum of the iso you created the USB from to ensure it wasn't just a bad download rather than a bad drive.
[17:12] <Haeks> proxx: what details do you need? Fresh install with all updates. tried connecting with remote desktop on mac and with VNC via windows. I get connection refused (61) on VNC . I did a bit of googling an see lots of others had same problem, but no fixes listed
[17:13] <proxx> heaks is your port open ?
[17:13] <gage_bw> Jordan_U: I'll check the md5 now, assuming it's straightforward enough to check it. If it's good, what do you recommend that I do?
[17:13] <Haeks> proxx: yep
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[17:13] <Haeks> proxx: port 5900 is open
[17:14] <sskalnik> Herp derp, think I fixed my problem
[17:14] <Haeks> proxx: firewall ect is not enabled. just a fresh install with desktop sharing enabled
[17:14] <proxx> haeks: oke and you have set the usename etc, can you login from localhost ?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> nyuszika7h: change /etc/hostname AND /etc/hosts at the same time (open both with gksudo gedit, then change both, otherwise gksudo will fail)
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> Haeks: is it over the web?
[17:15] <Haeks> proxx: well, no I didnt set any username. It never asks for that in VNC? I just went to desktop sharing dialog and enabled sharing, never tried localhost
[17:16] <proxx> haeks , can you connect to it 127.0.0.1 ? try that first
[17:16] <Haeks> ActionParsnip: No not oever web, internal ip currently
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> Haeks: good, vnc has zero security :)
[17:16] <proxx> if thats not working then the config is wrong
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> Haeks: also try ping the IP of the server
[17:17] <Haeks> proxx: I will try connecting that way, and check if vino-server is running properly
[17:18] <Haeks> ActionParsnip: pinging the server works fine
[17:18] <Haeks> I can SSH to it ect
[17:18] <Haeks> ActionParsnip: 64 bytes from 192.168.0.195: icmp_seq=30 ttl=64 time=3.878 ms
[17:19] <Haeks> ActionParsnip: looks good
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Haeks: nicewhat do you need vnc for?
[17:19] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip, Jordan_U:   " md5sum -c .\lubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso " ?
[17:19] <gage_bw> I got many pages of errors when I did that.
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: other way around for the slash
[17:19] <Evgheny_> Hello everybody
[17:19] <Haeks> ActionParsnip: well configuring stuff, and I use some vine stuff on this remote server
[17:19] <drey> also, is there anyone reason why ubuntu would set my desktop resolution to 2mm bigger than my screen other than just to be cute and make the desktop shift a little when I mouse to the edges?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: md5sum ./lubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[17:20] <Evgheny_> Can you please help me? Where I can config shortcuts for terminal, that by default is 'CTRL+ALT+Fx' ?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Haeks: what's vine?
[17:20] <proxx> haeks , if you can confirm, that it is or isnt working, i advice you to install vncviewer , and run it on localhost with a verbose flag
[17:20] <Haeks> ActionParsnip: windows emulator ?
[17:20] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: isn't \ the windows standard? They *both* seem to work
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Haeks: ohh WINE
[17:21] <proxx> haeks: we need some additional connection info
[17:21] <Haeks> ActionParsnip: hah Wine vine vino.. eventually it would mess up
[17:21] <Haeks> proxx: I will try that, Ill return in 5 mins
[17:21] <proxx> aight
[17:21] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: Same huge list of errors, anyway, plus I have to ctrl-c to kill the process
[17:21] <thrope> i need to get gcc / gfortran 4.3 running on ubuntu 11.04 - is there any binary package? I really dont want to have to build from source
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/734404/
[17:21] <luist> hey… i made a persistent Live USB with ubuntu and some customization…. how do i make a Live CD out of it?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: you shouldn't have to CTRL+C
[17:22] <thorn__> I logged in so I could get help setting up my networked printer, but it was an absolute breeze!
[17:22] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: That doesn't look like windows to me
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: ahhh then you can install winmd5sum and right click the file and send it to the MD5 summer
[17:23] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I actually missed the ubuntu md5 link. I thought you had (correctly) assumed I was on windows
[17:24] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: it doesn't have an installer, nor does it add any context options.
[17:24] <loculinux> hola
[17:25] <Evgheny_> Can you please help me? Where I can config shortcuts for terminal, that by default is 'CTRL+ALT+Fx' ?
[17:25] <loculinux> yes
[17:25] <loculinux>  i help yuo
[17:25] <loculinux>  yuo are doing
[17:26] <loculinux> hollo
[17:26] <loculinux> hallo
[17:26] <szal> !enter | loculinux
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=winMD5Sum.png
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> !away > dkannan|away
[17:26] <moystard> Hey guys, is there a channel  dedicated for linux on macbooks?
[17:27] <FnC> can someone help me out with compiling some drivers against the new 2.6.32-35 kernel??  something is a bit wacky....
[17:27] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: I don't have 'winmd5sum', though
[17:27] <moystard> or is there somebody in the channel using ubuntu on his macbook / macbook pro?
[17:27] <loculinux> IN  SPANS  FOCK YUO  IS BETE A LA MIERDA OK
[17:27] <szal> !ops
[17:27] <luist> hey… i made a persistent Live USB with ubuntu and some customization…. how do i make a Live CD out of it?
[17:27] <szal> argh, too late
[17:27] <hrolf> How do I fix hibernation in Ubuntu 11.10?
[17:27] <FnC> test -e include/linux/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf || (		\echo;								\	echo "  ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";		\	echo "         include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing.";	\	echo "         Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.";	\  i get this error, and those file are all where they are supposet to be
[17:27] <luist> hey… i made a persistent Live USB with ubuntu and some customization and i also have the .img…. how do i make a Live CD out of it?
[17:28] <Jordan_U> moystard: Just ask your actual question.
[17:28] <proxx>  luist pop it on a disk , maybe with unetbootin
[17:28] <luist> proxx: hm...
[17:28] <rypervenche> I'm copying files over from a faulty HDD to a new one. It says "Input/output error" on a lot of the files. Is there no way to salvage those files? (Not mine, I backup my data :P)
[17:29] <hrolf> I installed uswsusp, uncommented the swap space in /etc/fstab and now it does says that it is hibernating but when I power on the machine again I get a new fresh start rather than the hibernated session.
[17:29] <moystard> I would like to know if it is possible to switch from one graphic card to the other (9400m/9600m GT) on my macbook pro 5,3 to optimize the battery life, and also how to have a better control on the temperature as it's running quite hotter than under mac.
[17:29] <FnC> rypervenche: prolly not... but try testdisk... and use the copy function
[17:29] <luist> proxx: unetbootin makes live usb… isnt that right?
[17:29] <proxx> right
[17:29] <luist> proxx: i have the live usb… need to make it a live cd
[17:29] <phong_> hi all
[17:29] <proxx> cant help you there
[17:30] <phong_> proxx, what is the t-mobile girl on the TV ads?
[17:30] <Jordan_U> rypervenche: I would recommend doing a full image copy using GNU ddrescue (note there is another non-GNU dd_rescue which is not the same and not as good). testdisk won't help much with hardware problems.
[17:30] <FnC> anyone anygood with compiling drivers against the source/headers???
[17:30] <phong_> the name
[17:30] <Jordan_U> !ot | phong_
[17:30] <hrolf> luist: what do you mean by live cd? Can't you get into Ubuntu from your Live USB?
[17:30] <phong_> ok
[17:30] <reo> unetbootin for USBs, and I find Basero the best when it comes to writing live CDs
[17:31] <reo> He means he wants to burn the ISO to a CD
[17:31] <luist> hrolf: yes but we are going to distribute it for 3000 schools and ppl here cant afford 3000 pendrives… so we are going to use CDs
[17:31] <proxx> lol
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> rypervenche: could use ddrescue to make an image of the drive then recover from that what you can
[17:32] <FnC> is there a ubuntu dev channel?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: install it then
[17:32] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: i'm looking for it now...
[17:32] <Jordan_U> FnC: Yes, but it's not for user support.
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: the how to md5sum shows you all you need
[17:32] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: (it's not linked to on that page)
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: there is a link to the app on the page
[17:32] <SinusPi> nitpicker: "an ubuntu", not "a ubuntu" ;P
[17:32] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: Just "md5sum.exe"
[17:32] <FnC> well if its a dev issue... maybe they should look at it
[17:33] <rypervenche> Jordan_U: ActionParsnip: Are there any specific switches that I need to use with the command?
[17:33] <Jordan_U> moystard: GPU switching is still rather immature in Linux. It works on some hardware but requires a lot of manual configuration and X needs to be restarted to switch GPUs.
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: Download and install winMD5Sum, a free and open source hash verification program.
[17:33] <SinusPi> FnC: nitpicker... "an ubuntu", not "a ubuntu" ;P
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: the link goes to http://www.nullriver.com/products/winmd5sum
[17:33] <moystard> Jordan_U: that's better than nothing, because by default it seems to use the 9600m GT that uses much more energy
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: I'm betting you didn't even open the link at all
[17:34] <Jordan_U> FnC: If you think there is a bug in Ubuntu then file a bug report. The Ubuntu development channel isn't for bug reports either.
[17:34] <Jordan_U> !bug | FnC
[17:34] <truepurple>  weird things are suddenly happening with my system.  I can't get into nautilus, windows of nautilus that were already up first hanged with the cursor, and then went blank, and small up ups keep on coming up, that are blank white
[17:34] <luist> hrolf: so?
[17:34] <luist> hey… i made a persistent Live USB with ubuntu and some customization and i also have the .img…. how do i make a Live CD out of it?
[17:34] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows ? It is indeed open
[17:34] <FnC> Jordan_U: would like to have someone who knows, tell me im not doing something stupid first...
[17:35] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: if you mean the other one, well, I assumed the 'windows' one would give me a better answer than the 'ubuntu' one.
[17:35] <Jordan_U> FnC: Regardless, the Ubuntu development channel is *not* the place for that.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: the calculated hashes will be the same, one isn't better than the other
[17:36] <FnC> Jordan_U: are you a dev?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe   that wil install it
[17:36] <Jordan_U> FnC: Not an Ubuntu developer, no.
[17:36] <SinusPi> FnC: file a bug report, the worst that can happen is someone will close it with "PEBKAC".
[17:36] <moystard> Jordan_U: Do you have a URL you can point me to for graphic card switching?
[17:37] <proxx> look for ironhide on goolge
[17:37] <Jordan_U> moystard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[17:37] <proxx> or just in synaptic
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> moystard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[17:38] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[17:38] <Guybrush88> hi olivegreen
[17:39] <OliveGreen> Guybrush88, If I replace Banshee with Rhythbox, will I still be able to control it from the sound indicator on the top left of the screen?
[17:39] <alexsej> #ubuntu-ru
[17:39] <OliveGreen> Rhythmbox*
[17:40] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help, downloading now
[17:40] <Guybrush88> olivegreen, let me check that i don't remember it right now :P
[17:40] <jiffe98> is there someplace I can go to see what version my installed software will be updated to when doing a do-release-upgrade ?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: no. I updated the page to link to the file in the how to
[17:40] <Guybrush88> olivegreen, it seems to be possible
[17:41] <OliveGreen> Guybrush88, I see. Thanks. :-)
[17:41] <alexsej> Hello ... Who will help the thread with conky?
[17:41] <Guybrush88> olivegreen, you're welcome, i hope that it still works :P
[17:41] <OliveGreen> Guybrush88, I only wish to see Rhythmbox back as the default media player instead of Banshee in 12.04. :)
[17:42] <CrusaderAD> jiffe98 the update-manager displays the new version numbers in the description drop down, I believe
[17:42] <Guybrush88> olivegreen, yeah, i prefer rhythmbox to banshee too
[17:43] <moystard> Jordan_U: Thank you very much, will have a look @ that.
[17:43] <moystard> Random question, do you know if it possible using empathy to highlight messages containing my nickname?
[17:43] <Jordan_U> moystard: You're welcome.
[17:43] <moystard> it does not seem to do it :/
[17:43] <vesuvius> w00t
[17:44] <Jordan_U> moystard: I would personally recommend a dedicated IRC client for IRC in general.
[17:46] <lovre> hi all. samba doesnt seem to work for me. It just says "unable to find any workgroups...".. any tips on resolving this?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> moystard: pidgin does it by default
[17:46] <gage_bw> ActionParsnip: I've verified that the checksums are the same
[17:46] <moystard> Jordan_U: I like the integration of empathy within Gnome Shell
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> lovre: what if you run: smbtree    do you see shares?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> gage_bw: sweet
[17:47] <moystard> Jordan_U: It is really nice to control your status from the top right menu and to be able to reply quickly using the notification in the bottom.
[17:47] <lovre> ActionParsnip: no output
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> lovre: moystard +1 :)
[17:48] <lovre> ActionParsnip: ?
[17:48] <lordjj> What's the best way to run Photoshop in Ubuntu?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> lovre: there is no outright best
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> lovre: you can use wine, or you can virtualise windows and install in that
[17:49] <lovre> ActionParsnip: im sorry, i dont understand what you mean
[17:49] <szal> lordjj: if you want Photoshop, run it in Windows
[17:49] <om26er> (wrong person?)
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> lovre: both methods have pros and cons, neither is better nor wose
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> *worse
[17:50] <RandomRoger> How can I add a new java to the update-alternatives --config java list ?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> lovre: could use Gimp instead, its native
[17:50] <RandomRoger> I have it downloaded, and put it in /lib/jvm with the rest
[17:50] <lordjj> I'm willing to checkout other photoshop alternatives. I tried getting along with GIMP for months. It's just not gonna right for me.
[17:50] <Jordan_U> lordjj: What type of work are you trying to do?
[17:50] <gage_bw> I've verified that the download was good. This could mean that 1) UNetbootin didn't do its job correctly, and something on the USB stick is corrupt; or 2) Lubuntu 11.10 'alternate' can't actually be checked for defects with that unetbootin option.
[17:50] <lovre> ActionParsnip: im sorry, i really dont know what you are talking about, have you mistaken me for someone?
[17:51] <lordjj> I need to crop, work with shapes, layers, resize images, add drop shadows...
[17:52] <lordjj> Mostly I need to be able to put stuff togethers for ads, icons, and logos. Jordan_U
[17:52] <moystard> Let's be honest, Gimp is far from being half as good as photoshop
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> RandomRoger: http://forum.open-xchange.com/archive/index.php/t-112.html   should help
[17:52] <Jordan_U> lordjj: For icons and logos inkscape (a vector graphics application) might be better.
[17:52] <lordjj> Simple posters, with drop shadow test...
[17:52] <moystard> especially if you are a professional
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> moystard: many use it with great success
[17:53] <RandomRoger> Thanks
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> lovre: yeah seems so, tab spazz
[17:53] <lordjj> Jordan_U it's not only icons and logos though. There are posters and large page backgrounds too.
[17:55] <nasrullah> hi
[17:55] <OliveGreen> Is there soundmenu extention for Rhythmbox like the one for Banshee?
[17:55] <pompeii> moystard: many really do use it with awesome results, but i understand where you're coming from. my main machine runs win7 with photoshop and i *have* to use it if i'm wanting to do something more serious.
[17:56] <Fusionite> Hey all
[17:56] <nasrullah> could anyone tell me where i can gte cheap laptop ubuntu online
[17:56] <lordjj> I'm not saying anything about GIMP. I realize it is a powerful tool. To me, it's just not a FAST enough tool.
[17:56] <nasrullah> *get
[17:56] <Fusionite> nasrullah
[17:56] <Fusionite> Just get something with like 2GB ram
[17:56] <Fusionite> and a decent CPU
[17:56] <rabbi1> what you guys think of seamonkey, worth using ?
[17:56] <lordjj> Really it's the only thing I miss from my ancient Windows days...
[17:56] <Fusionite> then take of windows
[17:56] <pompeii> lordjj: when you say "fast", what's that related to?
[17:56] <gage_bw> Jordan_U: The downloaded .iso passed the md5 check.  Would you now recommend that I redo the unetbootin process and 'check disc for defects' again?
[17:57] <nasrullah> i do use seamonkey it is nice in  a way
[17:57] <pompeii> lordjj: someone who might know all the keyboard shortcuts on GIMP but none on PS would obviously be able to use GIMP a whole lot "fast"er than PS. so it depends what you mean...
[17:57] <rabbi1> nasrullah: nice in a way? :)
[17:57] <b0ot> Can I expand the partition that I'm currently in?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> nasrullah: system76 do preinstalled ubuntu :)
[17:57] <lordjj> pompeii I mean easy to use. Like, magic wand, new layer from cut, right click add drop shadow, done. That kind of fast.
[17:57] <b0ot> while it's mounted?
[17:57] <nasrullah> thank you
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: sure, give it a whirl, see what you reckon :)
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: no you will need it unmounted
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: use a liveCD if it is your system partition
[17:58] <b0ot> hmm
[17:58] <pompeii> lordjj: then from your perspective, PS is just more intuitive to use. *I AGREE*, but i will say that it's only that way because we've used PS before GIMP. how about those who use Paint Shop Pro or Corel Draw and things of the like? they'll come to PS and think it's junk or less-than, similar to how we may view GIMP.
[17:58] <b0ot> dang I can't use a live cd
[17:59] <b0ot> no usb or cd drive
[17:59] <Fusionite> Dudes, How would I go about using a vHost here?
[17:59] <rabbi1> thanks, will goahead, guess not much people user seamonkey, at the most people are happy with thunderbird... will give it a try
[17:59] <lordjj> pompeii I agree. But I must say, I've given GIMP a very large amount of time.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> pompeii: probably find PS more intuitive because you have use it for so long...
[18:00] <nasrullah> seamonkey is becoming robust nowadays..
[18:00] <pompeii> ActionParsnip: that's my point indeed
[18:00] <rypervenche> ActionParsnip: Jordan_U: Thank you for your help. I'm rescuing the data now.
[18:00] <b0ot> when I plug in something to my usb drive... it shows up when I do an lsusb but it doesn't ever seem to show up in the filesystem
[18:00] <rypervenche> <3 being able to use Linux to fix people's computers at work :P
[18:00] <Antonis> Hello. I have a launcher on gnome-panel, is there a way to change it's icon on the fly?
[18:00] <Jordan_U> rypervenche: You're welcome.
[18:01] <lordjj> pompeii I just can not come to terms with it.
[18:01] <nasrullah> have anyone use pardus linux
[18:01] <pompeii> lordjj: and as a professional, if you had to choose one, it would have to be PS for the pure reason that most of the industry uses it. it will make you more relevant and more compatible in the sense that if you were to ever have a conversation about graphics editing, you would be on the same page as the next guy. #truth
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: you can edi the file in /usr/share/applications but it will change the item for ALL
[18:02] <riffautae> Antonis: i assume there is a gconf entry for each item in the panel, you could adjust the settings there programaticly
[18:02] <Antonis> ActionParsnip, you mean the .desktop file? I made a python script that changes the Icon=/path/to/icon.png but it doesn't change on the panel.. I have to kill gnome-panel in order to see the changes
[18:02] <Fusionite> jtr__ :)
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: not sure then man, sorry
[18:02] <b0ot> Anyone know why my usbdrives won't mount even though I have automounting enabled
[18:02] <Antonis> riffautae, oh where do I find those changes??
[18:02] <luca> dear friends is there a channel about Content Management Software?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: did you safetly remove last time you ejected the device?
[18:02] <jtr__> Fusionite: a li'l busy man but , hi :)
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> nasrullah: that is offtopic here
[18:02] <Fusionite> Okay bro
[18:03] <nasrullah> ok bro
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Antonis: I believe you will need to run: unity --replace   to apply
[18:03] <nasrullah> i want to know how to dual boot pardus with ubuntu
[18:04] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, Probably not, but I have tried multiple usb drives
[18:04] <riffautae> Antonis: you can look around with gconf-editor
[18:04] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, it doesn't even show up with a fdisk -l
[18:04] <riffautae> Antonis: try /apps/panel/applets
[18:05] <twocarlo> luca: you can go to there own chanel what particular cms are do you want to ask?
[18:05] <nasrullah> i am talking about dual booting
[18:05] <nasrullah> not off topic issue
[18:05] <luca> I'd like to know which is better between joomla, wordpress and drupal
[18:05] <nasrullah> thank you
[18:06] <szal> !best | luca
[18:06] <riffautae> Antonis: also /apps/panel/objects
[18:06] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, I'm able to plug in my mouse into that usb port, but I can't get any usb drive to show up
[18:06] <riffautae> Antonis: that last one is where my app launchers seem to be
[18:06] <luca> which is the best
[18:06] <alexsej> #ubuntu-ru
[18:07] <pompeii> luca: it depends what your intentions are. obviously drupal and joomla would require a little bit more knowledge but will give you more control.
[18:07] <Antonis> riffautae, thank you found it!! I just have to find a way to identify which of the objects is the right one :P
[18:07] <twocarlo> luca: #joomla
[18:07] <luca> pompeii: I'd like to realize a site on nanotechnology
[18:08] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, I do have an error message dahdi-dkms failed to install or upgrade if that means anything?
[18:08] <luca> but for me it's the first time i use this cms
[18:08] <luca> what do you think of?
[18:08] <luca> i've already realized something
[18:08] <luca> i'd like to know your opinion
[18:08] <hrolf> How do I fix hibernation in Ubuntu?
[18:08] <hrolf> I installed uswsusp, uncommented the swap space in /etc/fstab and now it does says that it is hibernating but when I power on the machine again I get a new fresh start rather than the hibernated session.
[18:09] <luca> http://filibertobiolca.altervista.org/
[18:09] <luca> have a look to it please
[18:09] <pompeii> luca: for the most ease-of-use, i say wordpress. publishing is fast, you can create pages on top of your main page, having it emulate an actual normal website versus a blog.
[18:09] <szal> lordjj: if you don't mind trying other stuff, you might perhaps want to experiment w/ CinePaint
[18:09] <pompeii> luca: but again, it wouldn't hurt just to try everyone you're thinking about and then stick with the best. it wouldn't take that long to realize which one you like the most, i think.
[18:09] <sandyd> luca: also check drupal (harder, but more customization) and joomla
[18:10] <gage_bw> Okay, another question. All the *buntus I looked at recommended 4.3GB. The target hdd is 4.0GB. Will the installation work at all?
[18:10] <gage_bw> (4.3 gigs during installation, that is)
[18:10] <riffautae> !lowmem | gage_bw
[18:10] <lordjj> szal I'll give that a go. Thanks.
[18:10] <riffautae> gage_bw: that talks about low hdd also
[18:10] <luca> pompeii: I read that joomlia has a grat community
[18:11] <ronin___> hi when i want install a package I've got error 'Required installation of untrusted packages'
[18:11] <luca> pompeii: great community
[18:11] <pompeii> luca: you should try it. no one will be able to sway your personal experience
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: does:   dmesg | tail     output anything suspicios?
[18:11] <moystard> I don't know if the graphics method is available on macbook pro as all the graphic cards are not listed
[18:12] <luca> pompeii: have you seen my site? What do you think of?
[18:12] <moystard> efi / bios emulation stuffs ... :/
[18:12] <ronin___> hi when i want install a package I've got error 'Required installation of untrusted packages'
[18:12] <twocarlo> luca:the site (not bad ) for a newbie
[18:12] <ronin___> hi when i want install a package I've got error 'Required installation of untrusted packages' any one can help?
[18:13] <szal> !repeat | ronin___
[18:13] <riffautae> ronin___: did you set up a ppa or download the deb from some place?
[18:13] <ronin___> sorry and thx
[18:13] <b0ot>  ActionParsnip http://paste2.org/p/1770207
[18:13] <pompeii> luca: no, i haven't. and again, my opinion is only an opinion. there's not much else that i can give to you- your personal experience will be your best bet to trust. we're getting really offtopic in this channel now, sorry. PM me if you really wanted to talk more.
[18:13] <luca> twocarlo: thank you very much so do you think I am able to use joomlia?
[18:13] <ronin___> riffautae: pidgin
[18:13] <gage_bw> riffautae: Weird, those reqs seem higher than all the others I've seen.
[18:14] <twocarlo> luca: yes you can
[18:15] <riffautae> gage_bw: it also shows requirements for server and lightweight installs
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: are other ports ok?
[18:15] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, [78006.348064] usb 2-5: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 ?
[18:15] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, I can't get the usbstick to show up on any of them
[18:16] <luca> twocarlo: thank you do you know which is the channel of joomlia? is there a community or a chat?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: when you last used it ok and unplugged it, what steps did you take? or did you just pul it from the system?
[18:17] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, It never has worked on my linux system
[18:17] <b0ot> it works fine in windows
[18:17] <gage_bw> riffautae: My earlier research indicated that lubuntu would take up around 2GB once installed.
[18:18] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, it actually has a live version of ubuntu on it
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> b0ot: are the USB ports enabled in BIOS? Have you tried the BIOS in failsafe settings
[18:18] <gage_bw> riffautae: It still seems to want 4.3 during installation. But, is that a requirement or a suggestion?
[18:18] <riffautae> gage_bw: my server with no gui takes 1.8g
[18:20] <riffautae> gage_bw: it might copy files over before extracting so that the operation is faster
[18:20] <skomorokh> which ppa do I need for xulrunner since it isn't in 11.10?
[18:20] <riffautae> gage_bw: you could try installing with the alternative cd or server cd and then manually install the lxde or whatever after
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> !find xulrunner
[18:21] <skomorokh> :S none of those sound like "mozillateam-stable" or any sort of ongoing likely to work next year type situation...?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> riffautae: http://old.nabble.com/Removing-XULRunner-from-oneiric---call-for-help-td31664811.html
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> skomorokh: ^
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> riffautae: sorry, wrong taget
[18:22] <bobweaver> Hi there I have two questions one is there a config file for brassero that points to my cd/dvd drive (its not ejecting after burn) . Two is there a way to set the "home page " of unity to the page umm.. at the bottom there is 4 options I like the 2nd one with the filter results on. So I was wondering if changing anything under /etc/xdg/menu would do this? thanks you so much for your time
[18:22] <c0br4> !help
[18:22] <sammy> is anyone using psad with ufw?
[18:23] <Edisto> is it possible to install a bz2 file like a .deb file?
[18:23] <theadmin> Edisto: No.
[18:23] <sammy> I thought psad was supposed to pay attention to firewall rules, but I'm getting notification about traffic on ports I've got open with ufw
[18:23] <Edisto> ok thanks =D
[18:23] <riffautae> Edisto: bz2 is like a zip file, it just holds other files
[18:23] <theadmin> Edisto: What you have there is likely source-code, extract it and read the README file (sometimes "INSTALL") to see how to compile it
[18:23] <theadmin> riffautae: Well, so is deb to be honest :P
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Edisto: what is the filename you have?
[18:24] <riffautae> theadmin: yes but deb implies a specific structure, bz2 does not
[18:24] <skomorokh> ActionParsnip: I saw that... but that's about Ubuntu and not the PPAs, or is this mozillateam saying that they will no longer package xulrunner in any form?
[18:24] <bobweaver> Edisto:  that is a good question I guess to follow up on it. How o make a .deb package out of something that you have installed
[18:24] <theadmin> riffautae: True enough
[18:24] <bobweaver> to not o
[18:24] <theadmin> bobweaver: You can use checkinstall to create them (instead of "make install")
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> skomorokh: not sure, I don't listen to mozilla stuff any more
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> skomorokh: the guys in #mozilla may be able to advise
[18:25] <bobweaver> theadmin:  Sweet thanks !
[18:25] <Richie086> ..
[18:26] <bobweaver> theadmin: I guess after you make a .deb you would then want to use bzr to upload to you ppa ? then it is just a apt-get away ?
[18:26] <theadmin> bobweaver: ...You don't really need a ppa there, just install the package
[18:27] <theadmin> bobweaver: sudo dpkg -i whatever-ubuntu1-i686.deb
[18:27] <sammy> bobweaver: if youre going to use a ppa, its a slightly different procedure, though very well documented, and the folks in #ubuntu-packaging will be happy to walk you through it. and we would all appreciate teh package you took the time to build :D
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: what is the file name you have?
[18:28] <bobweaver> sammy:  You are awesome thanks !
[18:29] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip:  I am not trying to install anything but lets look at the change from 5.10 perl to 5.12 I had to install and find all thouse packages all over again after upgraading to 11.10 would have been great if I could have just apt-get  them :>)
[18:30] <scottj> do any of the tiling wms have transition/graphical effects ala compiz when switching between windows (frames) or desktops (tags/groups)?
[18:30] <riffautae> scottj: no
[18:31] <riffautae> scottj: however you can add a compositer to most of them
[18:31] <b0ot> ActionParsnip, doesn't seem to work
[18:32] <scottj> riffautae: does that (xcompmgr?) just give you shadows or also allow creation/destroy effects? does it allow say sliding transition between workgroups?
[18:33] <sandyd> does anyone know of a patch for kopete to fix the MSN login problems that occured after the server move?
[18:33] <riffautae> scottj: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cairo_Compmgr
[18:33] <TheExplorer> Pardon me friends: Butin regards to the *Ubuntu Networking* The computer in question will not maintain and ethernet connection.
[18:33] <riffautae> scottj: well this reall i guess http://cairo-compmgr.tuxfamily.org/
[18:34] <Trond--> "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep menuentry" shows 9 menuentry, the first starting with 0. Now I want my computer to boot with Windows 7 and is the last one in the Grub menu. Shouldn't it be "GRUB_DEFAULT=8" then in "/etc/default/grub" which saves it to "/boot/grub/grub.cfg", but it booted Ubuntu still and not Windows.
[18:34] <TheExplorer> is there a driver for Ethernet in Ubuntu?
[18:35] <n-iCe> hello, anyone knows how to set firestarter up? in order to share my wireless internet connection? can't make it work
[18:35] <lolcat> n-iCe: neither can I
[18:35] <lolcat> I imagine it is a faux
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> !ics
[18:35] <n-iCe> lolcat: faux?
[18:36] <sandyd> n-iCe: firestarter is outdated btw
[18:36] <n-iCe> oh
[18:36] <lolcat> n-iCe: yep, a non working program, not for anything sensical anyways
[18:36] <n-iCe> then let me read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[18:36] <n-iCe> lolcat: anyway you could find to share internet connection?
[18:37] <lolcat> !ics | n-iCe
[18:37] <go8765> anybody have problems with bottons in emerald?
[18:38] <scottj> riffautae: cool thanks
[18:41] <Neldogz> I am running ubuntu 11.10 with the Gnome 3 shell. Can I go ahead and remove Unity 2D, Unity Launchers and Panels etc without affecting Gnome 3?
[18:42] <Roybetty> tu-it
[18:45] <zulax> looks like my server doesnt have ufw
[18:45] <zulax> how do i open 8080?
[18:45] <riffautae> zulax: for more advanced firewalling you can look into iptables
[18:46] <zulax> riffautae, thats scares me :(  if i mess up
[18:46] <zulax> ufw was so simpel
[18:46] <riffautae> zulax: did you try apt-geting it?
[18:46] <zulax> riffautae, not yet, could i just install it
[18:46] <zulax> wont it conflict?
[18:46] <riffautae> zulax: prolly
[18:47] <riffautae> zulax: with what? it just manages iptables for yolu
[18:47] <zulax> ok
[18:47] <fission6> how do i change the password for a user, i forgot it (remeber root's though)
[18:47] <zulax> thanks
[18:47] <martin12> exit
[18:47] <riffautae> fission6: passwd
[18:47] <fission6> how do i speciy the user?
[18:47] <riffautae> fission6: passwd --help or man passwd
[18:48] <genii-around> fission6: sudo passwd <username-tochange-it-for>
[18:48] <fission6> thanks
[18:49] <go8765> anybody have problems with bottons in emerald?
[18:49] <zulax> Package ufw is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[18:49] <riffautae> zulax: might have to enable multi and universe repos
[18:50] <bobweaver> Question what do you all use for making flash websites ? I have used dreamweaver in the past is there anything like that for *nix ?
[18:50] <riffautae> !repos
[18:50] <riffautae> bobweaver: pls make your site plain html :P
[18:50] <Spec> riffautae: I'm pretty sure mos tpeople prefer not to use flash.
[18:50] <Spec> sorry
[18:50] <bobweaver> riffautae:  lol
[18:50] <Spec> bobweaver: ^
[18:52] <TheExplorer> Never have i had such a problem connecting to the internet on ubuntu before. My brothers computer lays derelict, after me telling me all the wonderful things... Now i look like a dumbass
[18:52] <pyther> Hello
[18:52] <pyther> I'm trying to create a bootable ubuntu usb drive, what boot parameters do I need to use?
[18:53] <bobweaver> I guess it is time to brake out the virtual box and install dreamweaver. I hate to put non-free (not money) software on my box but ehh I guess that that is life :>)
[18:53] <OerHeks> pyther, none, use unetbootin or the available tool in your ubuntu installation.
[18:53] <pyther> OerHeks: that isn't feesible for me
[18:53] <gr33n7007h> how long does it take for this command to finish -- dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda -- for a 320gb hard drive
[18:53] <pyther> and I don't have a ubuntu install
[18:54] <genii-around> gr33n7007h: A while
[18:54] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  excelsior cant get on line with your brothers computer ? I may be able to help out .
[18:54] <gr33n7007h> what, over an hour ?
[18:54] <riffautae> gr33n7007h: forever, specify a block size of at least a meg
[18:54] <genii-around> gr33n7007h: Easily
[18:54] <gr33n7007h> bs=1M
[18:55] <gr33n7007h> will it notify me?
[18:55] <genii-around> gr33n7007h: No, it will just come back to command prompt
[18:55] <gr33n7007h> kk thanks
 I can get online with an alternate device, but its not something im keeping on the machine...
[18:55] <riffautae> gr33n7007h: according to my calculations with a desktop drive it will take 53 minutes
[18:55] <r4y> Does the Ubuntu dev only update through updates, or do they also update for instance the Ubuntu 10.04 for download?, If so does that include the torrent links for 10.04
[18:56] <r4y> I already have Ubuntu 10.04 on CD
[18:56] <r4y> I wouldn't want to do this for no reason
[18:56] <riffautae> r4y: they only update the cd on point releases like 10.04.1
[18:56] <gr33n7007h> ok thanks alot
[18:56] <TheExplorer> The Computer just spins on "Auto eth0" for a while before taking a poopie and saying "meeeh *beep* it"
[18:56] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  please open terminal and put this in     lspci -nn && lsmod && rfkill list all ;        then  use paste.ubuntu.com   PLEASE
[18:56] <r4y> OK
 stand by...
[18:57] <r4y> That really helped me. Thank you bye
[18:59] <zulax> on my server apparently iptables service doesn exist
[18:59] <riffautae> zulax: that seems unlikely, how did you check?
[18:59] <zulax> /etc/init.t/ip<tab>
[18:59] <zulax> nothing
[18:59] <riffautae> zulax: sudo iptables -L
[19:00] <r4y> I have one last question
[19:00] <zulax> oops, that works
[19:00] <riffautae> zulax: its part of the kernel, not a daemon
[19:00] <r4y> What's the difference with the alt download and desktop?
[19:00] <girish> hello
[19:00] <PresuntoRJ> does any one know how to choose another language in the lightdm login? there used to be a drop down menu (up to 11.04) and there is still one if I change to lxdm...
[19:00] <zulax> thanks riffautae
[19:00] <TheCoon> girish: sup??
[19:00] <zulax>  iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[19:00] <riffautae> r4y: alt uses a cli to install and by default will install very little
[19:00] <bobsaccamano> has anyone here used CVS? (probably off-topic)
[19:00] <soreau> zulax: 'which iptables'
[19:00] <soreau> r4y: alt is text based
[19:00] <zulax> doesnt that look right ?  iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT
[19:00] <zulax> i tried with -A also
[19:00] <zulax> doesnt work
[19:01] <riffautae> zulax: looks right, but you will have to make sure it ends up before the deny all that is usually the last entry in the INPUT
[19:01] <PresuntoRJ> r4y: the alt download will have a textual instalation process... not graphic... that uses less memory
[19:01] <r4y> Woe, OK, thank you, I am glad I didn't pick that one
[19:01] <riffautae> zulax: i assume that is why -A didnt work
[19:01] <zulax> riffautae, is there an actual iptables file?
[19:01] <zulax> where i can manually edit stuff
[19:01] <PresuntoRJ> r4y: you could also try minor tweaks to adjust to your needs a little easier
[19:02] <r4y> Like if I don't want empathy and Evolution?
[19:02] <milen8204> how can I autohide upper aplet of the Desktop on Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:02] <riffautae> zulax: sorta, i think there is a script someplace that loads or unloads iptables on if up and down, you'll have to look it up
[19:02] <n-iCe> ok, I did what it says but I can't connect to the internet, I have two wireless wlan0 which is connected to thei nternet and wlan1 which is not, so I created a new adhoc connection with no password and selected in method shared connection, but my iphone is not connecting to the internet I mean, my laptop does and I see the wifi ap in the iphone, but does not connect, any idea?
[19:03] <n-iCe> ok, I did what it says but I can't connect to the internet, I have two wireless wlan0 which is connected to thei nternet  and wlan1 which is not, so I created a new adhoc connection with no password and selected in method shared connection, but  my iphone is not connecting to the internet I mean, my laptop does and I see the wifi ap in the iphone, but does not  connect, any idea?
[19:03] <enigma456> Hi. What to do then i try to use superuser and print      su     i got msg like :   Password:
[19:03] <enigma456> Cannot execute exit: No such file or directory
[19:05] <bobweaver> enigma456: ctrl+c   ??
[19:05] <milen8204> how can I autohide upper aplet of the Desktop on Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:05] <PresuntoRJ> enigma456: su is for changing to another username, whatever it is, you will need his/her password
[19:05] <PresuntoRJ> enigma456: the su without a user name will try to change to root, but root is disabled in Ubuntu (since, forever) and you cannot login like this
 Hey there bob found a way to paste it...
[19:06] <zulax> riffautae, http://pastebin.com/A2xXnCuq thats my saved iptables
[19:06] <bobweaver> !pastebin | TheExplorer
 /spaEmhdS
I mis-typed, I meant I FOUND a way
[19:07] <PresuntoRJ> enigma456: try using sudo instead, which asks for YOUR password
[19:07] <enigma456> try
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> enigma456: use:  sudo -i
[19:07] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  Link ?
[19:08] <TheExplorer> pastebin.com/spaEmhdS
[19:08] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  thansk
[19:08] <PresuntoRJ> !sudo
[19:08] <enigma456> enigma@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i
[19:08] <enigma456> sudo: shell: command not found
[19:08] <enigma456> enigma@ubuntu:~$
[19:09] <go8765> gtk-window-decorator have some thems?
[19:09] <apwbdjp> oO
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> enigma456: what is the output of:  groups
[19:09] <derek> How do I find out if I have bluetooth, and what do i need to do if I do?
[19:09] <A2Sheds> anyone know how to keep the monitor on and without a screensaver in 10.04? "Activate screensaver when computer is idle" is NOT checked and "put display to sleep" is set to NEVER
 no, Thank you bob... Thank... you.
[19:09] <riffautae> zulax: try this http://pastebin.com/QUZDLms9
[19:10] <apwbdjp> A2Sheds, go to the screensaver options, instead
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> derek: sudo hcitool dev     will show bluetooth transmitters/recievers
[19:10] <apwbdjp> A2Sheds, not the power manager options
[19:10] <riffautae> zulax: hold on forgot one line
[19:10] <enigma456> !senigma@ubuntu:~$ groups
[19:10] <enigma456> enigma adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[19:10] <zulax> ok riffautae
[19:10] <loconut> hello. I moved an ext3 raid-6 from RHEL-6 to ubuntu and it refuses to mount in ubuntu 10.04LTS but works fine in RHEL. The mdadm shows everything fine and vgscan/lvscan look fine.
[19:10] <loconut> any idieas why it would complain that it appears not to be  ext3?
[19:11] <riffautae> http://pastebin.com/UxR1xfxy  zulax
[19:11] <derek> ActionParsnip, it just said Devices:               and nothing else.  Does that mean my laptop isn't capable of it?
[19:11] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  there is a reson why I ask for certin out puts I need them to fix this:>)  please try again      lspci -nn && lsmod && rfkill list all
[19:11] <A2Sheds> apwbdjp: "Activate screensaver when computer is idle" is NOT checked in the screensaver preferences
[19:11] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  not just lspci
[19:11] <riffautae> loconut: be aware there are two ways to add and rebuild raids, one destroys all the data. what did you do to tell ubuntu about the raid?
[19:12] <toman> hello, i am trying to compile blender and i get this errr
[19:12] <zulax> riffautae, netstat -anltp|grep :8080 still shows nothing
[19:12] <pspeter3> Does anyone know why Netflix supports Chomebook but no ubuntu?
[19:12] <agliodbs> howdy, I updated by ubuntu system and not network manager VPN doesn't work.  It gets the "invalid VPN secrets" error, which is widely reported on the Web, but no solutions are posted anywhere
[19:13] <toman> hello, i am trying to compile blender and i get this error: missing: "/usr/include/python3.2m/Python.h" . I have dir "named " python3.2mu and python3.2 but no python3.2m
[19:13] <bobweaver> pspeter3:  silver something or another
[19:13] <toman> can anyone help me please, it is very important
[19:13] <bobweaver> pspeter3:  that is a windows progam
[19:13] <pspeter3> bobweaver: Microsoft just sunset silverlight yesterday
[19:13] <riffautae> zulax: is apache configured to operate on that port?
[19:13] <loconut> riff- it autodetected it.  i did vgchange -ay to activate the vg that the raid contains, and /dev/Data/raid6 showed up as expected. mount -t ext3 /dev/Data/raid6 /foo fails, but works on RHEL (rescue CD)
[19:13] <apwbdjp> A2Sheds, I'm not on gnome right now, so I don't know what else you could be missing.. maybe someone else will help, sorry!
[19:13] <pspeter3> bobweaver:  and chromebook is linux
[19:13] <n-iCe> ok I created the new connection adhoc and it appears and my own pc is connected, but if I try to connect using any device it connects this time but does not surf the web any idea what can I be doing wrong? thakns!
 bob thats the exact command i did
[19:13] <zulax> not sure how 2 check that, but i a vhost at 8080
[19:13] <zulax> riffautae,
[19:14] <bobweaver> pspeter3:  Silverlight now works on *nix   YAH
[19:14] <riffautae> zulax: netstat wont be affected by the firewall fyi. sudo service start apache2
[19:15] <n-iCe> who was helping me with isc ?
[19:15] <n-iCe> !isc
[19:15] <A2Sheds> apwbdjp: no problem, this is ubuntu so I'm not sure where they hide the settings or if the daemon still runs after being turned off :p
[19:15] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  lspci  -nn    means name and number that is not there also there is NO  lsmod       or rfkill list all
[19:15] <milen8204> !nounity
[19:15] <venik212> Window movement in Unity (64 bit, Quardo FX 570 with latest Nvidia driver) is TERRIBLY jerky and spastic-- really terrible
[19:15] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  here is the link that you sent me look for yourself http://pastebin.com/spaEmhdS
[19:16] <riffautae> loconut: what is hte error message? if its long pastebin it
[19:16] <mentoc> !nounity
[19:16] <venik212> Windows movement was MUCH better under Gnome 2
[19:16] <loconut> riffautae, its a simple error that the fstype must be incorrect. but its certainly ext3 and the same procedure works if i reboot into rhel.
[19:17] <TheExplorer> FML
[19:17] <loconut> fsck /dev/Data/raid6 also fails saying its not ext3.
[19:17] <TheExplorer> getting a smoke n caffine
[19:17] <TheExplorer> ill be back later
[19:17] <enigma456> any ideas for this  problem : >>    su
[19:17] <enigma456> Password:
[19:17] <enigma456> Cannot execute exit: No such file or directory
[19:17] <Cyberkilla> meh
[19:17] <bobweaver> TheExplorer:  this is what it should look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/734524/
[19:17] <loconut> i have it mounted in RHEL right now and am doing a verify against my backup.
[19:18] <loconut> its several TB so it takes a while..
[19:18] <riffautae> loconut: double check that ubuntu is making the volume block device where you expect, since you appear to have an unusual locaiton for it
[19:18] <nicola2011> salam
[19:19] <nicola2011> hi
[19:19] <guerrilha> hello, iv moded my ubuntu installation to anoter disk with gparted, now on boot i get an error: no such partition. grub rescue>
[19:19] <guerrilha> is there a way to recover from this point?
[19:19] <bobweaver> guerrilha:  yes
[19:20] <apwbdjp> guerrilha, yep, many ways
[19:20] <bobweaver> guerrilha:  mount the drive to mnt then cd to it and install grub
[19:20] <guerrilha> could you point me to one of them? very happy
[19:20] <loconut> riff, its a 5 disk raid 6 with a physical volume containing one logical volume . the mapper creates the same /dev/mapper/ dev and /dev/Data/raid6 on both ubuntu and rhel.
[19:20] <guerrilha> hmm so i need to boot from other distro
[19:20] <apwbdjp> guerrilha, I preffer booting from your own distro (you'd have to chroot, if you boot from a live CD)
[19:21] <loconut> only difference is ubuntu wont mount, wondering if theres a default block size  or some option i need to specify.
[19:21] <apwbdjp> guerrilha, You can use supergrubdisk (google, download and burn) to detect your distro, boot into it, and run sudo grub-install
[19:21] <enigma456> enigma@ubuntu:~$ su
[19:21] <enigma456> Password:
[19:21] <enigma456> Cannot execute exit: No such file or directory
[19:21] <enigma456> enigma@ubuntu:~$
[19:21] <enigma456> any
[19:21] <bobweaver> guerrilha:  please see post #2  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164
[19:21] <enigma456> ideas for
[19:21] <enigma456> this
[19:21] <enigma456> how to solve
[19:22] <Younder> don't do a grub-install
[19:23] <apwbdjp> Younder, why not?
[19:23] <magizian> sup sup..
[19:23] <Younder> you would ruin the content of your entire disk
[19:23] <loconut> riffautae, btw, i appreicate your thoughts. been scratching my head on this one :)
[19:23] <enigma456> i can't use superuser like root  any man can help ?
[19:23] <magizian> wmht.hopto.org
[19:23] <Younder> This should be your last resort
[19:23] <apwbdjp> enigma456, sudo -i doesn't work?
[19:24] <zykotick9> !noroot | enigma456
[19:24] <enigma456> enigma@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i
[19:24] <enigma456> sudo: shell: command not found
[19:24] <enigma456> enigma@ubuntu:~$
[19:24] <apwbdjp> WTH? Ubuntu without sudo?
[19:24] <n-iCe> anyone shared internet
[19:24] <Younder> apasdnom, make a su account by using passwd su <ayadayada>
[19:24] <riffautae> his sudo is working fine, the shell environ isnt working
[19:25] <guerrilha> theres this boot disk, and resgatux, which one? apw
[19:25] <enigma456> !noroot
[19:25] <riffautae> enigma456: did you mess with .profile or bashrc? /etc/thatstuff
[19:25] <Younder> enigma456, that is totally wrong
[19:26] <apwbdjp> guerrilha, supergrubdisk always worked file for me, rescatux seems great but I never tried it
[19:26] <apwbdjp> fine*
[19:27] <guerrilha> on ok. im concerned cause i think ubuntu is using grub2
[19:27] <Younder> I agree that super user access should be used sparingly. But not that it should not be used at all.
[19:28] <apwbdjp> guerrilha, You'll use the disk just to boot into your distro, then from it you can look for instructions to install grub2 manually
[19:28] <guerrilha> hmm thers 3 in the downloads, resgatux, supergrub disk, and supergrub2 disk
[19:28] <guerrilha> ow, my bad
[19:28] <guerrilha> ill do that
[19:28] <nicola2011> hi . i installed the pidgin and the video and audio call is off . I can't receive and send audio /video call . Help me . please
[19:28] <riffautae> Younder: give root a password is a security issue
[19:28] <apwbdjp> You don't actually need to reinstall grub2, just to make it redetect your distro at its new location
[19:28] <r0t0r00t3r> ubuntu is african for "can't compile BSD"...
[19:29] <siert> r0t0r00t3r: really?
[19:29] <Jordan_U> !ot | r0t0r00t3r
[19:30] <nicola2011> hi . i installed the pidgin and the video and audio call is off . I can't receive and send audio /video call . Help me . please
[19:30] <apwbdjp> nicola2011, which protocol?
[19:31] <Younder> riffautae, yes, it is. and I don't sugest you give me one. Just that you have one
[19:31] <nicola2011> apwbdjp . what does it mean ???
[19:31] <apwbdjp> nicola2011, using pidgin for AIM, MSN, IRC? Which?
[19:31] <nicola2011> apwbdjp : yahoo and gmail
[19:32] <apwbdjp> Guys is that supported? (too lazy to check the website)
[19:32] <smittix> does anyone know how to change the window font size in 11.10? gnome tweak tool doesnt seem to want to change that.
[19:32] <apwbdjp> Younder, he didn't say giving the root password, he said giving root a password. Root should NOT have a password.
[19:32] <Younder> riffautae, I have one
[19:33] <zykotick9> !wfm | Younder
[19:33] <Neldogz> anyone have any problems with wireless keyboards and mice on Ubuntu 11.10? I am looking to buying one from logitech
[19:33] <Younder> apwbdjp, well he is wrong
[19:33] <apwbdjp> Younder, If you say so, I'm not having this argument with someone who just said that grub-install will ruin a hard drive.
[19:34] <zykotick9> apwbdjp, +1 ;)
[19:34] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[19:34] <Jordan_U> !noroot | Younder
[19:34] <Younder> zykotick9, you need a root password to log in as maintainer
[19:34] <Jordan_U> !sudo | Younder
[19:34] <zykotick9> Younder, you don't understand Ubuntu yet.
[19:35] <OliveGreen> I am now booting Ubuntu from a USB stick because for some reason, my current Ubuntu installation crashed and won't let into the Gnome interface. Can someone please help me?
[19:35] <Younder> zykotick9, NO, I DO, you don't
[19:35] <EvilResistance> Younder:  you dont need root to do superuser actions
[19:35] <EvilResistance> hence sudo
[19:35] <EvilResistance> Younder:  zykotick9:  mind not taking shots at each other?
[19:36] <Younder> zykotick9, I have seen too many of these corner cases
[19:36] <Younder> ok I agree I am pissed
[19:36] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, what's the crash exactly? You see any error message? Can you access the command line?
[19:37] <A2Sheds> apwbdjp: so far it looks like $ xset s noblank   , does the trick
[19:37] <Neldogz> you guys have any trouble with Wireless Keyboards and Mice on ubuntu 11.10? (RF devices)
[19:37] <eclor1> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS 64bit with Eclipse Indigo SR1. When I quit from Eclipse by File->Exit it really doesn't quits - I still can see it running (ps ax). Anyone occurred this problem?
[19:38] <nicola2011> i installed the pidgin and the video and audio call is off . I can't receive and send audio /video call . Help me . please
[19:38] <apwbdjp> A2Sheds, Noted! That's a lot man!
[19:38] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: No. That's the problem. It doesn't show me anytihng unusual. But I can access the command line by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1 though.
[19:38] <nicola2011> help . help .i installed the pidgin and the video and audio call is off . I can't receive and send audio /video call . Help me . please
[19:38] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, The screens stays black?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> eclor1: are there bugs reported?
[19:38] <Younder> apwbdjp, obviosly he does or he whould't be making a message here
[19:38] <A2Sheds> apwbdjp:  also $ xset idpms
[19:38] <brontosaurusrex> !repeat | nicola2011
[19:39] <eclor1> ActionParsnip: I did report this bug to Eclipse bugzilla, but problem doesn't seem to be related to Eclipse itself. On 11.10 it works.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> Nicola2011: does the webcam work in cheese?
[19:40] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : yes
[19:40] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: Nope. That's not exactly what happens. It's hard to explain.
[19:40] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: I can still access the command with Ctrl+Alt+F1.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: and can you use the mic in sound recorder?
[19:40] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : yes . I can
[19:41] <zykotick9> OliveGreen, have you tried creating a new user and seeing if the new user can login?  You did say you can get to the login screen right?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> eclor1: maybe the newer version solves the bug. Is there a ppa for it?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: tried empathy?
[19:42] <OliveGreen> zykotick9: Nope. I can't get the login screen. The xserver itself doesn't start altoghether.
[19:42] <A2Sheds> apwbdjp:  sorry also $ xset -dpms    not  xset idpms
[19:42] <zykotick9> OliveGreen, sorry, disregard my suggestion then.  good luck.
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: also what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[19:43] <OliveGreen> zykotick9: It seems I should not trust gnome-shell yet. This is the second time it happens to me.. :'(
[19:43] <Younder> ActionParsnip, I's been a bad day for me too. I use Mozart the magic flute
[19:43] <anqi> 怎么换房间阿  谢谢
[19:43] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : it doesen't work on empathy .   lsb_release -sc    [19:44] <apwbdjp> Younder, why do I waste so many seconds reading your garbage..
[19:45] <Younder> apwbdjp, and I yours
[19:46] <OliveGreen> Well, it seems I have no other option but to reinstall the whole thing from scratch.. :'((
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: what is the output of: uname -a
[19:47] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, Weird.. gnome has never let me down that way..
[19:47] <Younder> OliveGreen, There is always another choice
[19:47] <OliveGreen> Younder: KDE?
[19:47] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : " Linux Hamid 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:50:42 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux "
[19:47] <milen8204> !nounyty
[19:47] <Younder> OliveGreen, Wan't me to guide you through it
[19:48] <milen8204> !nounyty
[19:48] <milen8204> !nounity
[19:50] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp, Younder, Do you know the bash-like thing where it checks if everyting its working and give an [ OK ] if it works? That's the only thing I see after the Ubuntu loading screen shows up for a split second.
[19:50] <milen8204> ok, how to make gnome-shell default instead Unity shell ??
[19:50] <Johnnychimpo> me too.
[19:50] <OliveGreen> Younder: guide me through what exactly?
[19:50] <crizzy> milen8204: just select gnome session from login manager..
[19:50] <Johnnychimpo> cant could not get shell extensions with the tweak too
[19:51] <Younder> OliveGreen, no, I know of no such thing
[19:51] <milen8204> crizzy, I thing I did it, I have choose classic
[19:51] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, tried launching X from the shell?
[19:51] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: How do I do that?
[19:51] <Younder> OliveGreen, lets' go throght that install procedure
[19:51] <crizzy> milen8204: choose 'gnome' as session
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: there is a .so you can use with LD_PRELOAD then run your app. My web is dog slow but the web will find it. Search for:  ubuntu ".so skype"   and it should appear, obviously when you run it you want to use pidgin but the search should help
[19:52] <Onibal> Hi!
[19:52] <Onibal> can some1 help me?
[19:52] <OliveGreen> Younder: Exucse me. Which install procesure do you mean exactly?
[19:52] <milen8204> crizzy, how to do that ?
[19:52] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, try sudo xinit
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: i'd get it for you if i was at home but my phone web is slow so my battery lasts
[19:53] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : thank you .
[19:53] <Younder> OliveGreen, ubunu.. humor me
[19:53] <Onibal> I'll like to plot the output of two programms with grace but how do i do that?
[19:53] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, nicola2011 LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so
[19:53] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: Okay.. I guess I'll give that a shot, and be back to you.. in like 20 minutes or so..
[19:53] <OliveGreen> bye
[19:53] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, Sure, see ya
[19:54] <Onibal> (1.exe & 2.exe) | xmgrace - doesnt work
[19:54] <Younder> OliveGreen, I wish you would talk to me first
[19:55] <krasnozer> how does one disable the notification popups ?
[19:55] <nyuszika7h> !search messages
[19:55] <nyuszika7h> What does Ubuntu use instead of messages.log?
[19:56] <Younder> Krasnozer: one can't
[19:57] <apwbdjp> krasnozer, I think they're application specific (network manager, power manager, pidgin, etc), but i don't know if there's a way to inhibit libnotify completely
[19:57] <krasnozer> apwbdjp: i dont believe you
[19:57] <JosephHarretha> apasdnom, You could delete the /lib/libnotify file .... But that would cause some breakage.
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: zykotick9 found it, just add the client name after it (with a space after his command). If it works we can make it stick
[19:57] <elgo> "sudo update-grub" and "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" is the way to rewrite bootmanager?
[19:58] <Younder> krasnozer, i's true though
[19:58] <JosephHarretha> apwbdjp,   , You could delete the /lib/libnotify file .... But that would cause some breakage.
[19:58] <JosephHarretha> elgo, You have it backwards :P
[19:58] <zykotick9> elgo, just try the "sudo update-grub" first - without the reinstall
[19:58] <apwbdjp> JosephHarretha, That would be pretty extreme..
[19:58] <riffautae> apwbdjp: dont delete that file
[19:59] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : what doese it mean ?? i can't understand !!???
[19:59] <nicola2011> sorry
[19:59] <elgo> zykotick9: naa, mbr hold a different bootloader, i have to replace it with grub
[19:59] <zykotick9> elgo, oh sorry, though you where someone else
[19:59] <apwbdjp> elgo, so you know, grub-install rewrites the master boot record, grub-update only updates the list of available systems
[19:59] <JosephHarretha> apwbdjp, Library files are used by the program, defined in the source code. It means the application depends on it to a level that, if it were not present, would return a "file not found" error, or just an unknown exception
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: it loads a library and makes the app use it, its sometimes needed.
[20:00] <apwbdjp> JosephHarretha, but are there programs written to run even on systems where libnotify isn't present?
[20:00] <elgo> apwbdjp: thats what i want to do, update the menu and write this grub into mbr. tks
[20:00] <krasnozer> ok i found the setting for the power manager, but i dont see the one for network
[20:00] <JosephHarretha> apwbdjp, So, you don't have the power to inhibit it, Just stop using programs that rely on it.
[20:00] <Younder> JosephHarretha, Duh!
[20:01] <JosephHarretha> apwbdjp, You can write programs to not use the library... BUT, they have to use another system of notification. If a library isnt present, then the program will crash once it tries to use any functions defined in it.
[20:01] <Younder> JosephHarretha, Stop stating theobvious
[20:01] <JosephHarretha> Younder, He dosen't seem to know the obvious, so why don't you stop trying to let me help in a help channel.
[20:01] <ilearnz> Hello all, does any1 know if "Startup Disk Creator" (the program that allows usb's to be used to load Os's ) will it allow me to mount a windows .iso file onto it like I can do with a linux version ?
[20:01] <Younder> JosephHarretha, I am not,
[20:01] <ilearnz> windows Is
[20:02] <ilearnz> Windows Os**
[20:02] <zykotick9> ilearnz, nope - ONLY ubuntu ISOs
[20:02] <ilearnz> thx
[20:02] <JosephHarretha> Younder, Then please, allow me to help the way I please to, and that is to build their understanding from the ground up. Something thats obvious to you and me, is alien to others.
[20:03] <apwbdjp> ilearnz, if you interrested in Windows Live CDS, google UBCD4Win, and stuffs.
[20:03] <riffautae> Younder: also be aware most of the time people are not talking to you, please be careful when naming people and when responding or things will get confusing
[20:03] <lucas-arg> KB-UB405-A DVB USB stick can someone help me out with this??
[20:03] <JosephHarretha> apwbdjp, If you wanted to, you could get the source code for said applications, find out why it depends on the library, and remove/replace it yourself
[20:03] <Jordan_U> Younder: Please keep all discussion polite and respectful.
[20:03] <Jordan_U> !guidelines | Younder
[20:03] <riffautae> apwbdjp: this would be a very involved operation
[20:04] <Younder> JosephHarretha, That I can agree with. I am sorry I interferred with you
[20:04] <apwbdjp> JosephHarretha, the person who asked if there was a way to inhibit the notifications (and who is probably not even reading anymore) doesn't have the time for it
[20:04] <moonunitzappa> hello
[20:04] <JosephHarretha> apwbdjp, But that would require programming knowledge and a few hours of work, so I would highly suggest that if you don't like the way it functions, to simply use another program, or contact the eveloper.
[20:04] <riffautae> oh you can kill the program 'notify-osd' and the popups would not disaplay and would not break any apps by messing with libraries
[20:04] <moonunitzappa> Im having a problem with my memory. Is It normal for me to be using 68% of my ram in cache?
[20:05] <riffautae> apwbdjp: ^^
[20:05] <riffautae> moonunitzappa: yes
[20:05] <riffautae> moonunitzappa: consider that ram unused
[20:05] <JosephHarretha> apwbdjp, Heh, I thought it was you who asked, sorry for assuming, I only just came into the channel.
[20:05] <zykotick9> !atemyram | moonunitzappa
[20:05] <moonunitzappa> ty
[20:05] <moonunitzappa> but my pc seems to be running sluggishly aswell?
[20:05] <apwbdjp> moonunitzappa, Yes, very normal, just consider it almost-free space
[20:06] <bsarsgard> exit
[20:06] <JosephHarretha> riffautae, Yup, I though they were talking about inhibiting a library haha.
[20:06] <JosephHarretha> Why are the floodbots so active today?
[20:07] <JosephHarretha> They seem to be switching modes a lot...  :P
[20:07] <apwbdjp> moonunitzappa, BTW, I always change the color for the "cache", in the ressource manager to something darker ^^
[20:07] <guerrilha> apwbdjp, well... iv booted to the grub cd and entered ubuntu. iv followed the steps on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1851164 using the sdb device, wich now is on the new drive, and pointed bios to boot from this disk now on. after rebooting i went to the same error didnt entered ubuntu, booted up via cd again and again update-grub, the systems showed fine, but yet still i get grub error, no such ...
[20:07] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : I can't understand . I'm Beginner . now what ?? waht am i doing ???
[20:07] <moonunitzappa> i only have 246 free ram, and 3714 used. and im only running tranmisson firefox and xchat
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram | moonunitzappa
[20:07] <moonunitzappa> but 3900 free swap
[20:07] <moonunitzappa> is t hat normal?
[20:08] <lucas-arg> KB-UB405-A DVB USB stick can someone help me out with this??
[20:08] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: Hi. I'm back. And nope.. xinit didn't work.. unfortunately. :(
[20:08] <Jordan_U> guerrilha: Boot into your installed Ubuntu system and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc".
[20:08] <moonunitzappa> thats from free -m
[20:08] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, What's the error message?
[20:08] <JosephHarretha> moonunitzappa, Ram being used it a good thing, it makes your PC faster actually. The less swap being used, the better.
[20:08] <apwbdjp> guerrilha, I read you, just hold on a second
[20:08] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: None.
[20:08] <guerrilha> o/
[20:08] <moonunitzappa> JosephHarretha, but my pc keeeps locking up on me
[20:08] <moonunitzappa> could it not be a ram problem?
[20:09] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, You do sudo xinit, and the shell comes back to prompt?
[20:09] <riffautae> moonunitzappa: if most of you ram is cache its prolly not an out of mem situation, linux will prioritise your apps over cache
[20:09] <Younder> I am trying to hel these people
[20:09] <JosephHarretha> moonunitzappa, That could be another issues, thats most likley locking up when it commits things to swap. So, try running the "htop" command to see whats taking up your memory.
[20:09] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: No error messages. Unless I try to start again which would say that it's already running.
[20:09] <lucas-arg> !dvb
[20:09] <Cy> sup homeboys
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: the thing zykotick9 gave, paste that to a terminal then add a space then the word: pidgin
[20:09] <moonunitzappa> ok ty
[20:10] <Younder> OliveGreen, so it's working ;)
[20:10] <lucas-arg> !ivtv
[20:10] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, did you check Ctrl+Alt+F8, and F9?
[20:10] <guerrilha> !firewire
[20:10] <JosephHarretha> moonunitzappa, It has a simple enough interface, The top few listings are using the most memory and stuff like that, It should give you an idea of whats going on. if htop dosent work, try just "top"
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> moonunitzappa: have you tested the RAM with memtest in the grub menu?
[20:10] <OliveGreen> Younder: It doesn't show me any GUI of any kind so what's the point?
[20:11] <JosephHarretha> ActionParsnip, Lets rule out the OS before you assume hardware :P
[20:11] <Younder> OliveGreen, It doesn't?
[20:11] <`juice> join my channel #irc2net :) thanx [amsg sorry]
[20:11] <OliveGreen> Younder: Nope.
[20:11] <riffautae> OliveGreen: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ?
[20:11] <ilearnz> hm
[20:12] <Younder> OliveGreen, hmmm oh fu...
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> JosephHarretha: well the OS and apps run in RAM so bad RAM will directly affect the OS.
[20:12] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: I think I did.. Nothing happened..
[20:12] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, did you see if the display was up on Ctrl+Alt+F8 and F9?
[20:12] <OliveGreen> riffautae: I wish that was an option.. :(
[20:12] <apwbdjp> You mean there was only black, on F8 and F9? Even AFTER you threw xinit?
[20:12] <riffautae> OliveGreen: install pastebinit  lets you pastebin from the command line
[20:13] <riffautae> OliveGreen: in the repo
[20:13] <ilearnz> hm
[20:13] <JosephHarretha> moonunitzappa, Oh, and to see if this is a hardware issue,... Do you have any idea if this happends under windows or any other OS?
[20:13] <riffautae> moonunitzappa: can you pastebin your dmesg output? might be some hints in there
[20:13] <ilearnz> any file i can run on a live cd that can go in and read product key of a windows 7 machine ? >> this current pc may be changed back to windows <>
[20:14] <KingPin> hello guys anyone here using php5.3 with mariadb?
[20:14] <Younder> well OliveGreen I'm stumped again...
[20:14] <systemclient> I installed Windows and it crashed my bootloader, now I cannot boot Ubuntu any more. How can I restore it?
[20:14] <riffautae> ilearnz: there is software that can do that but  recall any of it
[20:14] <guerrilha> Jordan_U,  that did the trick. thanks! thanks apwbdjp for the attention. you all rock
[20:14] <riffautae> ilearnz: * i cant
[20:14] <Jordan_U> guerrilha: You're welcome.
[20:14] <Armael> fgrqrr
[20:14] <ilearnz> uh
[20:14] <apwbdjp> systemclient, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:14] <Cy> hey guys
[20:15] <Cy> i'm a new ubutu user
[20:15] <systemclient> apwbdjp: ty, that looks good
[20:15] <OliveGreen> riffautae, Younder, apwbdjp: Well, It's alright. I'm not gonna loose much if I just reinstall the whole system. I'm just too lazy to do it, that's all. :-)
[20:15] <systemclient> Cy: welcome abort
[20:15] <systemclient> Cy: aboard :)
[20:15] <Cy> i just installed it on my old dell inspiron
[20:15] <Younder> apwbdjp, can you help OliveGreen ?
[20:15] <Cy> 512 mb ram computer
[20:15] <Jordan_U> systemclient: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[20:15] <Cy> the system is running hellllla slow
[20:16] <riffautae> !lowmem | Cy
[20:16] <Cy> wow
[20:16] <Cy> nice
[20:16] <Cy> thanks
[20:16] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, Well.. just wished there was a quicker way. Any idea of what you were doing right before the crash?
[20:16] <OliveGreen> riffautae, Younder, apwbdjp: It's probably my fault because I prefer gnome-shell over unity.. :\
[20:16] <systemclient> apwbdjp: can I restore 11.10 bootloader with an 11.04 CD?
[20:16] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, I use gnome shell, too
[20:16] <Younder> OliveGreen, yeah that would do it
[20:16] <Jordan_U> systemclient: Yes.
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Cy: install lxde or xfce4, log off then choose the new session. It will be a lot nippier :-)
[20:17] <systemclient> Jordan_U: thank you, that is awesome news
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> systemclient: yes, both use grub2
[20:17] <Cy> those are names og GUIs amirite?
[20:17] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: I  Installed a couple gnome-shell extentions, browsing the web, a couple more ordinary things.
[20:18] <Jordan_U> systemclient: You're welcome.
[20:18] <Neldogz> Guys, if i am running Gnome 3 shell on Ubuntu 11.10 can I completely remove Unity & Compiz from the software panel?
[20:18] <Cy> sudo apt-get install xfce4 <-- will that work?
[20:18] <apwbdjp> Cy, if you have time for the LowMemorySystems tutorial, and a firewire connexion, you can do that. It's what I'm using on my netbook, boots up in under a minut, and runs like a charm
[20:18] <lucas-arg> so theres no support for kworld tv decoder in ubuntu??
[20:18] <ubuntu> bhjk
[20:18] <systemclient> Jordan_U: (and people say linux does not work … ;-))
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Neldogz: Yes.
[20:18] <ubuntu> nui
[20:18] <JosephHarretha> Neldogz, Yup. sudo apt-get remove unity
[20:18] <Cy> awesome
[20:18] <ubuntu> ji
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Cy: yes :-)
[20:18] <Cy> i'll read that tuts then
[20:18] <Neldogz> Thank you guys!
[20:18] <Cy> thanks for the help
[20:18] <ubuntu> nklj
[20:18] <Jordan_U> ubuntu: Please stop.
[20:18] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: then all of a sudden, gnome shell crashed, and I made reboot.. Then it never allowed me in again.
[20:18] <ubuntu> sry
[20:18] <Neldogz> Jordan_U: Can i also remove compiz?
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Neldogz: Yes.
[20:19] <Younder> absolutely not
[20:19] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, could be the extentions, reinstalling will give you less headache, I believe
[20:19] <Neldogz> great thanks!
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: are you low on space?
[20:19] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: Yup. It seems gnome-shell isn't very stable yet, right?
[20:20] <Neldogz> ActionParsnip: i find unity to be a bit slow on my system. The gnome shell runs really well and stable
[20:20] <ilearnz> any1 know the exact size of ubuntu 11.10 in MB/s ?
[20:20] <apwbdjp> apwbdjp, it's what I'm using, never let me down (never installed any extention for it, though)
[20:20] <Myrtti> Younder: this is the final warning, please stop being unhelpul, or you will be prohibited from "helping"
[20:20] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, I meant (geeks, talking to myself..)
[20:20] <Younder> I don't agree with any of this! nothing!
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Neldogz: sure but gnome shell replaces unity, so its not running...
[20:21] <apwbdjp> Younder, are you okkay buddy?
[20:22] <apwbdjp> Anyway, OliveGreen: I'm using LXDE on my netbook, and Gnome (as Ubuntu Classic, on Natty) on the desktop, for long time, always been fine
[20:23] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: I just replaced Banshee with Rhythmbox, then install an extention which would allow me to control it through the sound menu.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> LXDE rocks :-)
[20:23] <ilearnz> oliveGreen
[20:23] <ilearnz> can u help me do that with Vlc ?
[20:23] <mxed> i am using Xfce on my netbok, rox
[20:23] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, I don't think Rythmbox needed an extention to be able to do that..
[20:23] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : It doesn't work :9
[20:24] <ilearnz> << Looking for guide to change the sound menu option to VLC media player
[20:24] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: Really? It doesn't?
[20:24] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : It doesn't work :(
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: did you try empathy too?
[20:24] <systemclient> ilearnz: you mean VLC as a jukebox?
[20:24] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, I've done the change too, a few months ago, I don't remember installing anything for that
[20:24] <vbajpai> how can I install gcc-4.3 on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[20:24] <Younder> apwdjp, no my father just died today. I am definitely not ok
[20:24] <nicola2011> ActionParsnip : yes . but it doesn't work too
[20:24] <systemclient> vbajpai: the regular gcc package is not what you want?
[20:24] <Fusionite> Megnmm
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc
[20:25] <Fusionite> Ubunto Oneiec
[20:25] <Fusionite> typo
[20:25] <systemclient> vbajpai: you could do a "apt-cache search gcc" and see whether it has 43
[20:25] <vbajpai> systemclient: I don't see it in the repository, the oldest one is 4.4
[20:25] <vbajpai> systemclient: okay, let me check again
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> vbajpai: if you can find a deb you could install it and pin the version. Could get messy.
[20:25] <systemclient> vbajpai: well, maybe there is no old version of it
[20:25] <Neldogz> so i issued the sudo apt-get remove unity  however within Ubuntu Software Center i still see Unity 2D, Unity 2D places, Unity 2d launcher and Unity 2d panel
[20:26] <Neldogz> can i just remove all of these also?
[20:26] <systemclient> vbajpai: ActionParsnip backporting is a pain indeed
[20:26] <systemclient> Neldogz: you can, but they should not hurt either
[20:26] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: Well, if it was an extentions problem, then I believe the folks at Gnome have a serious issue to deal with. Untrusted, unstable extentions can do some huge mess (if that was the case)..
[20:26] <vbajpai> systemclient: I read online that people get broken dependencies trying to install gcc-4.3 from deb
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> nicola2011: are there any bugs reported?
[20:26] <guest1> Why every time after boot a need to "sudo ifup eth0"?
[20:26] <Neldogz> thank you systemclient
[20:27] <systemclient> vbajpai: yes, as ActionParsnip pointed out, it is messy
[20:27] <Guest34945> Hello? Can I get Ubuntu help here?
[20:27] <apwbdjp> OliveGreen, Maybe.. anyway, it shouldn't make X and gdm unable to run at all.. Weird.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest1: add it in /etc/rc.local  above the exit 0 line and it will run each boot.
[20:27] <systemclient> would it make sense to put the swap onto an SSD as opposed to a HDD
[20:27] <llutz> guest1: no "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:27] <systemclient> Guest34945: if you ask a question, you will ;-)
[20:28] <Guest34945> I'll try to change my name, to make it easier. :P
[20:28] <apwbdjp> systemclient, it will give faster swap, but very little lifetime for the SSD.
[20:28] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: I agree. It doesn't make sense at all. :(
[20:28] <guest1> ActionParsnip: I guess, but why? I was offline for 3 monthes. May be i deleted smth.
[20:28] <james> hi everybody
[20:28] <systemclient> apwbdjp: that is what I fear, so I will just leave that to the HDD
[20:29] <bytesaber_work> running 10.10  My Firefox is still version 3.  Shouldn't it of been updated by now??
[20:29] <Guest33912> what?
[20:29] <Guest33912> uhmm my name was change
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> systemclient: it will wear the ssd quicker. Put it on a platter based drive as well as /var and put your /home there too.
[20:29] <systemclient> Guest33912: was it gues before?
[20:29] <guest1> llutz: No. Only "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[20:29] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: I have my home on my HDD
[20:30] <Guest33912> james
[20:30] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: good call on var, I did not think about that …
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> !ff8 | bytesaber_work
[20:30] <guest1> llutz: This is the key?
[20:30] <llutz> guest1: there you have the reason
[20:30] <OliveGreen> apwbdjp: If only I could at least know what is really causing this issue.. :S
[20:30] <milen8204> anyone knows any program similar to docky which work nice on Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> !ff7
[20:30] <LoganKrane> Okay, so I am trying to install Ubuntu on a HP dv4-1225dx. This is my first time trying it. I have it on a usb and the installation prompt comes up but when I hit "Run ubuntu from this usb" it simply makes a small dinging sound and restarts the countdown.
[20:30] <bytesaber_work> !ff8
[20:30] <bytesaber_work> !ff7
[20:30] <llutz> guest1:  just add that line above the iface eth0...
[20:31] <systemclient> LoganKrane: did you enable USB boot in bios?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> bytesaber_work: there is the firefox stable ppa which should give firefox 8 or "
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> 7
[20:31] <LoganKrane> I did, otherwise it wouldn't show up.
[20:31] <guest1> llutz: (hard to tab yor name) You're a good adviser. Thanks.
[20:31] <bytesaber_work> ppa?
[20:31] <jiffe98> is there someplace I can go to see what version my installed software will be updated to when doing a do-release-upgrade ?
[20:31] <milen8204> anyone knows any program similar to docky which work nice on Ubuntu 11.10?
[20:31] <brontosaurusrex> milen8204, docky should work, check that dock x something thought
[20:31] <zykotick9> !ff6 | bytesaber_work
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> LoganKrane: did you md5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:32] <brontosaurusrex> is there a ppa for mod_mp4_streaming, or how should i go about that?
[20:32] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: anything else that should not be on the SSD (other than /var and /home)?
[20:32] <LoganKrane> No, how do I do that?
[20:32] <systemclient> LoganKrane: md5sum filename
[20:33] <apwbdjp> systemclient, /tmp, if you burn CDs regularly, and stuffs, I guess
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: sure you can use a dock if you wish
[20:33] <jtr__> milen8204: cairo docks should work , i haven't tried though
[20:33] <systemclient> apwbdjp: that makes sense as well …
[20:33] <LoganKrane> Well, I got it from the ubuntu website, it's the 11.10
[20:33] <milen8204> brontosaurusrex, i didnt understand you , what should I do to turn on all docky settings and to be transperant on the windows
[20:33] <guest1> Why I can't "nick nick_new" there?
[20:33] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, jtr__  thanks
[20:33] <systemclient> guest1: did you prepend it with a slash?
[20:34] <llutz> guest1 /nick newnick
[20:34] <systemclient> guest1: /nick newlick
[20:34] <jtr__> milen8204: thanks :)
[20:34] <guest1> !ping
[20:34] <M4rc3l> pong!
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> systemclient: swap and browser cache can be put in tempfs to speed things up as well as remove the need to clear web cache
[20:34] <brontosaurusrex> milen8204, the correct acceleration layer must be working for docky, like compiz
[20:34] <guest1> "Slash" doesn't help. smth with pidgin %)
[20:34] <sskalnik>  I'm trying to perform an unattended install using a preseed file. I need a software RAID 1 between two drives, split into five partitions for /, /usr, /home, etc. Everything goes smoothly until partway into the partitioning. When I drop to the second terminal, I get this all throughout the syslog: "can't open /var/lib/partman/outfifo: no such file"
[20:35] <apwbdjp> ActionParsnip, swap into tempfs? Wouldn't that be looping ram back?
[20:35] <LoganKrane> And where do I input that md5sum ?
[20:35] <milen8204> brontosaurusrex, doesn`t work for me :(
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> systemclient: basically stuff that changes a lot
[20:35] <systemclient> LoganKrane: you check it against the one that was shown on the webpage
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> apwbdjp: browser cache in tempfs
[20:35] <brontosaurusrex> milen8204, dunno then, i make it work in vbox, so .... http://brontosaurusrex.69.mu/2011/10/ubuntu-11-10-is-out/
[20:35] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: well, I am not too savy what changes what often
[20:35] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: I mean the SSD gives aptitude with /var/apt/lists a real boost
[20:35] <apwbdjp> ActionParsnip, I mean, swap is from ram, and tmpfs is ramdisk
[20:35] <LoganKrane> I did, it is that one./
[20:36] <apwbdjp> ActionParsnip, Oh, it's just that you said swap and browser cache, I though you meant put swap into tmpfs
[20:36] <guest1> What the main idea ubuntu is living with now?
[20:36] <milen8204> brontosaurusrex, ok thanks I will see what can do
[20:36] <systemclient> guest1: copy OS X and be user friendly, become #1 OS
[20:37] <systemclient> guest1: be a Linux Distro which can be operated by "normal" people
[20:37] <guest1> systemclient: sorry but Tango Icons -lt OS X icons
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> systemclient: sure but how much of a hurry can you be to get updates?
[20:37] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: it is just awesome to see aptitude fly away :-)
[20:37] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: if I do not use the SSD at all, it will not wear off, but it will not do any good
[20:37] <LoganKrane> A little more info on the comp, it was running Vista until I tried to upgrade it to win 7 when it first came out. It would not install and went into this loop of turning on, attempting to update, rebooting, etc, etc.
[20:38] <guest1> systemclient: hm without videocard i can't look at new ubuntu for the second release
[20:38] <systemclient> guest1: do you run headless?
[20:38] <systemclient> guest1: or just with small graphics card
[20:38] <guest1> systemclient: mmmm, debian from console
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> systemclient: wears the drive though for something that can be put elsewhere and make the drive last longer. Your call dude
[20:38] <guest1> systemclient: 32 m
[20:39] <systemclient> ActionParsnip: putting /var on the HDD sounds so grown up ;-)
[20:39] <apwbdjp> brb guys
[20:39] <LoganKrane> Also, being the first time I did that, I did not set up a system restore.
[20:39] <systemclient> guest1: what is 32 m?
[20:39] <LoganKrane> So that is why I'm trying to install Ubuntu.
[20:39] <systemclient> LoganKrane: does it boot with a live CD?
[20:39] <sskalnik> I think he means a 32MiB video card
[20:39] <mathi> hi
[20:39] <LoganKrane> I don't have any CDs with Ubuntu on it, just the usb.
[20:39] <systemclient> sskalnik: oh, I had that in my iBook G4, and it works
[20:39] <mathi> how do I play a sound in Linux ? (via command line)
[20:39] <guest1> systemclient: nvidia Ti on a friend's computer -- it doesn't fit ubuntu
[20:40] <guest1> ubuntu need to be lightweihter
[20:40] <FyodorIlych> Всем привет. Есть люди, которым не нравится новый default 2D интерфейс Ubuntu?
[20:40] <xangua> mathi: with mplayer¿
[20:40] <systemclient> guest1: isn't that super old?
[20:40] <xangua> guest1 there is lubuntu, the lighter in the family
[20:40] <systemclient> guest1: well, Debian is light, Ubuntu is "you do not need to install software after installing the OS"
[20:40] <guest1> FyodorIlych: Ty cho po russky pishesh?
[20:40] <systemclient> xangua: but still ubuntu carries a lot of stuff with it …
[20:40] <tensorpudding> !ru | FyodorIlych
[20:40] <systemclient> guest1: I saw someone running Debian + Awesome WM on an ARM netbook … that was lightweight
[20:41] <guest1> !ru | for i in guests
[20:41] <LoganKrane> systemclient: I do not have any CDs, just the usb.
[20:41] <EvilResistance> guest1:  please stop the abuse
[20:41] <EvilResistance> of the bot
[20:41] <guest1> systemclient: it was windowmaker but now ke-de-ee
[20:41] <guest1> ok
[20:41] <FyodorIlych> А что, нельзя по русски?
[20:41] <EvilResistance> !ru | FyodorIlych
[20:41] <systemclient> guest1: what do you mean?
[20:42] <EvilResistance> FyodorIlych:  please listen to the bot.
[20:42] <systemclient> I just let KDE partition manager resize a partition, then I clicked cancel after 1:30 into the action … now it is still on reverting … is it normal that it takes so long?
[20:43] <guest1> ubottu: Ubuntu-ru doesn't allow to @send@ msgs without @registered@ nick. That's it. And there are a lot of politcs in there that's why modern russo often hangs around there.
[20:43] <FyodorIlych> Got it, thanks.
[20:43] <LoganKrane> Anyone have any ideas for me?
[20:43] <guest1> FyodorIlych: gotcha - that's the new spelling way
[20:44]  * guest1 tab doesn't work in pidgi
[20:44] <xangua> guest1 it does
[20:44] <guest1> xangua: yeah
[20:45] <guest1> xangua: but it can't tab Fyo<tab><tab>rIlych ^)^
[20:45] <xangua> guest1 because he is no longer here...
[20:45] <guest1> xangua: ha
[20:46] <LoganKrane> Or somewhere I can get more help?...
[20:46] <sskalnik> LoganKrane: what's up?
[20:48] <LoganKrane> Well, as I said before, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop. It won't install from the usb for some reason. When I press enter on "Run Ubuntu from this usb" , it beeps twice, wipes the options and brings them back up.
[20:48] <systemclient> LoganKrane: that means that it boots the bootloader again
[20:48] <krasnozer> i was here earlier with asking how to disable notifications popup and was told that it was impossible (lol), so just that you know yes it can be done
[20:48] <xangua> LoganKrane: tried a cd¿ what ubuntu version¿
[20:48] <LoganKrane> 11.10
[20:48] <systemclient> xangua: he has no CD
[20:48] <LoganKrane> And I don't have a cd.
[20:49] <systemclient> what is up with that bot?
[20:49] <apwbdjp> LoganKrane, why's that? Can't burn one, or no CD drive?
[20:49] <LoganKrane> Can't burn one at the moment.
[20:49] <Younder> I am burned at the moment
[20:50] <LoganKrane> But why would a CD make a difference over a usb?
[20:50] <riffautae> krasnozer: did you stop the notify-osd process?
[20:50] <guest1> LoganKrane: what netbook?
[20:50] <riffautae> krasnozer: as the fix?
[20:50] <Younder> But I will be back
[20:50] <LoganKrane> It is a HP dv4-1225dx notebook.
[20:51] <Younder> I love you all
[20:51] <Myrtti> Younder: stop being offtopic
[20:51] <jaybee_> Hi all, there is a program I used to use; ubuntuupdates.org says Latest version: *DELETED* - is there any general way of finding out why it was deleted, or  what has replaced it (if anything)?
[20:51] <sskalnik> Some machines won't boot from USB, ergo a CD is a safer bet.
[20:51] <krasnozer> riffautae: i unchecked the "notification daemon" in the startup options, maybe it's the same thing
[20:51] <apwbdjp> LoganKrane, USBs aren't as reliable as CD
[20:51] <riffautae> krasnozer: sounds like it is :)
[20:51] <go8765> Hello. Can anybody please help me with LO-impress? I have in one slide many essects and have 1 effect(moving) that dont work. How I can solve this ?
[20:51] <systemclient> LoganKrane: same reason some BIOS only like PS/2 keyboards
[20:52] <guest1> go8765: switch off the effect?
[20:52] <LoganKrane> Hmm, okay. I'll go grab some I guess. Any certain CDs you guys would recommend? (again, very new at this)
[20:52] <guest1> LoganKrane: minimalCD?
[20:53] <mathi> xangua, what player do I need to play WAV files ?
[20:53] <xangua> mathi: vlc¿
[20:53] <guest1> mathi: ubuntu-restricted-addons
[20:53] <LoganKrane> guest1: Not sure what that is, lol.
[20:53] <mathi> guest1 what is this ?
[20:53] <sskalnik> LoganKrane: double check BIOS settings, check disc for defects?
[20:53] <go8765> guest1, the same effect in this slide good work 3 times/ but in 4 - they stopped.... and I need it.
[20:53] <guest1> mathi: codecs
[20:53] <apwbdjp> LoganKrane, if you mean the disks, any empty CD would work fine (even though a DVD would be faster), if you mean the image, just get the classic ISO file from the Ubuntu website
[20:53] <systemclient> LoganKrane: regular ubuntu 11.10 is what I'duse
[20:54] <guest1> go8765: ask on runtu - the know the decision ;)
[20:54] <systemclient> is it normal for a partition resize revert to take over half an hour?
[20:54] <sskalnik> LoganKrane: any old CD should work. Sony and Memorex and Verbatim are relatively nice, but in this case just about anything is fine.
[20:54] <ubuntu> hi
[20:55] <go8765> guest1, sorry... what you mean? (I dont fully understand...)
[20:55] <sskalnik> systemclient: if it has to move a lot of data around, yes
[20:55] <LoganKrane> Alright, how do I write it to install right off of the CD?
[20:55] <guest1> go8765: ne yuzat' effect
[20:55] <Gunzo> Requesting some assistance with installing Ubuntu on Mac, thanks. PM please
[20:55] <sskalnik> LoganKrane, just burn it; it's good out of the box
[20:55] <go8765> guest1, andrex ?
[20:55] <Myrtti> !pm | Gunzo
[20:55] <apwbdjp> LoganKrane, just boot from the CD, it'll give you a clear installer, you can't get lost
[20:55] <LoganKrane> Yeah, sorry. Forgot there are instructions online.
[20:56] <guest1> go8765: Chilentanno?
[20:56] <systemclient> sskalnik: but it was only 1:30 into the resize … so I figured that it would take around the same time to revert this …
[20:56] <guest1> LoganKrane: boot from livecd , open brasero, burn, reboot and install
[20:56] <apwbdjp> Guys I gotta go for now! See you later!
[20:56] <apwbdjp> Keep rockin' people, you're awesome!
[20:56] <captainjamie> Does anyone know a terminal command to set the screen brightness to full (or know how to fix the screen being on lowest brightness when first booted up)?
[20:57] <go8765> can anybody help me with LO-impress please?
[20:57] <zykotick9> go8765, you could try #libreoffice
[20:58] <guest1> captainjamie: xset<tab>?
[20:58] <geoffmcc> is there really no other way to make desktop shortcuts than to use gnome-panel and then gnome-desktop-item-edit?
[20:58] <captainjamie> guest1 : what do I put in tab sorry?
[20:58] <geoffmcc> sorry in 11.10
[20:58] <guest1> captainjamie: man xset
[20:58] <captainjamie> guest1 :fair point
[20:59] <guest1> geoffmcc: make textfiles -- learn on gnome docs site
[20:59] <geoffmcc> guest1: not familiar, will look into, thanks
[21:00] <Gunzo> Im trying to install ubuntu on a mac from a cd. I created a partition to install it on to. In the installer it says I should make a new partition for swap memory. Question 1: How large should it be? Question 2: When I make another partition for the swap memory, how do I assign it as being for swap? Many thanks
[21:00] <arsenic> hello
[21:00] <go8765> zykotick9, thanks, I try, but no-one answer there  :( so I asked here...
[21:00] <systemclient> Gunzo: swap = 2*RAM
[21:00] <blawiz> i want to stop the cdrom from getting automounted, how can i find its UUID?
[21:00] <arsenic> how can I install my tv-card on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:00] <mathi> xangua, I installed VLC, now I do I play the WAV file ?
[21:00] <systemclient> mathi: vlc asdf.wav
[21:00] <systemclient> Gunzo: you tell it in the installer to use it as swap
[21:01] <jaybee_> blawiz: from a shell, you could ls -la /dev/disks/by-uuid/
[21:01] <mathi> thank you
[21:02] <blawiz> jaybee_, looks like only hdd's are listed there
[21:02] <fokuslee> I have problem restart and shutting down computer after i upgraded to 11.10, both action hangs at the ubuntu shutdown splash.
[21:02] <jaybee_> do CDs have uuids?
[21:02] <Gunzo> thanks bro
[21:03] <zykotick9> jaybee_, i doubt it
[21:03] <jaybee_> I just tried a CD, and it didn't have a UUID
[21:03] <blawiz> jaybee_, i have disabled one cdrom using UUID, so yes. (actually its a virtual cdrom on a external hdd)
[21:04] <arsenic> hi, can someone tell me how can I install my tv-card on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:04] <guest1> captainjamie: xrandr --help
[21:04] <piglit> hello i cant get a umts dongle working dont know what to do can anyone please help me out
[21:04] <piglit> it is a Huawei E1780
[21:05] <guest1> captainjamie: xrandr --brightness
[21:05] <jaybee_> I just tried a CD, and it didn't have a UUID
[21:05] <jaybee_> Perhaps UUIDs are optional for CDs, depending on the filesystem?
[21:06] <blawiz> jaybee_, hmm.. dont know.. but how else can you assure that a particular cdrom is mounted at a particular dir?
[21:06] <bekks> jaybee_: No.
[21:06] <riffautae> jaybee_: cd's are always iso9660 or something, which only has labels
[21:06] <guest1> blawiz: mount
[21:07] <bekks> UUIDs are for the identification of a filesystem, regardless of the filesystem type.
[21:07] <blawiz> guest1 but you can know which cdrom is which, if its external
[21:07] <guest1> blawiz: /media/sr0 or smth
[21:08] <guest1> blawiz: lspci
[21:08] <guest1> blawiz: lsusb -t
[21:08] <glebihan> jaybee_, just tested here no a CD, it doesn't have a UUID
[21:08] <guest1> So cannot mount a CD?
[21:08] <Guest66465> hello everyone :> i'm experiencing choppy sound now and again in all sorts of applications in the 64 bit 11.10 (minecraft/java 7, dosbox, a few others), and inevitably when the sound is choppy i'm getting this error message in the console: ALSA lib pcm.c:7316:(snd_pcm_recover) underrun occurred ...has anyone else seen this, or know what might be going on?
[21:08] <brontosaurusrex> a cd or cd drive should have uuid?
[21:09] <glebihan> guest1, no need for a UUID to mount a device
[21:09] <jaybee_> guest1: you cannot specify a cd by UUID
[21:09] <bekks> brontosaurusrex: no.
[21:09] <glebihan> guest1, so of course you can mount a CD
[21:09] <jaybee_> You can refer to it as /dev/sr0 (for example)
[21:09] <guest1> brontosaurusrex: uuid is not for cd
[21:09] <jaybee_> or as /dev/disks/by-label/(disk label)
[21:10] <zykotick9> jaybee_, actually you could use "sudo mount LABEL=foo ..." if the CD has a label
[21:11] <jaybee_> but the question is not "mounting", it's "not mounting" - stopping the automounter.
[21:11] <guest1> jaybee_: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[21:11] <riffautae> Guest66465: well from the sound of it, it cant get data out to your sound card fast enough, not sure why that would be though
[21:12] <guest1> jaybee_: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0  /mnt
[21:12] <lwizardl> hello once again it seems an update has killed my headphone jack. Its an Intel HDMI system
[21:13] <Guest66465> riffautae: it's certainly a strange one...didn't happen in 11.04 either :< now as an experiment i tried switching out libsdl1.2-debian-alsa (which is the default) for the -pulseaudio one instead, since most of the things i was trying to use worked with sdl, and that seems to have fixed it...so far
[21:13] <qmanjr5> Is there a way to end a users session via terminal?
[21:14] <Essobi> Has anyone gotten bcm5974 driver to work on 11.10?
[21:14] <guest1> qmanjr5: pkill gdm
[21:14] <glebihan> jaybee_, the automounting is handled by the file manager (nautilus), not sure whether there is a way to prevent i
[21:14] <glebihan> t
[21:14] <arsenic> hi, can someone tell me how can I install my tv-card on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:14] <jaybee_> (I didn't ask the initial question)
[21:14] <qmanjr5> guest1: Hilarious.
[21:14] <guest1> glebihan: man fstab
[21:14] <qmanjr5> Is there a way to end a users session via terminal?
[21:15] <glebihan> guest1, nothing to do with fstab
[21:15] <guest1> qmanjr5: in english?
[21:15] <LinuxMercedes> Hey, I've got a bug to report against the ubuntu 11.04 installer. Where on earth do I go to do that?
[21:15] <qmanjr5> guest1, if you don't know what user session means, don't bother answering my question.
[21:15] <qmanjr5> Or even responding to it.
[21:16] <tziOm> /dev/shm is automounted here, but not in fstab, how can I prevent it from beeing mounted?
[21:16] <Jordan_U> !bug | LinuxMercedes
[21:16] <riffautae> qmanjr5: be nice pls, also you can indeed restart gdm to log out the x users
[21:16] <genii-around> LinuxMercedes: apport-bug ubuquity
[21:16] <genii-around> ubiquity     ...rather
[21:16] <guest1> qmanjr5: agetty and bash --login and /etc/issue?
[21:17] <LinuxMercedes> genii-around: It's a bug against the installer...which package is that?
[21:17] <gebbione> any special reason why the ubuntu 64 bit version is not the recommended one?
[21:17] <genii-around> LinuxMercedes: ubiquity is the installer name
[21:17] <codeshah> hmm on ubuntu /etc/init.d/mysqld I have set basedir=/usr/local/mysql but Couldn't find MySQL server (/usr/bin/mysqld_safe
[21:17] <Gentoo64> gebbione: in case peopel get confused
[21:18] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running fbpanel with aewm and fbpanel refuses to hide/unhide windows when clicking them from the taskbar, but right-clicking and selecting iconify/raise works. What's up with this behaviour?
[21:18] <LinuxMercedes> genii-around: well duh...let me go do that now =P
[21:18] <gebbione> Gentoo64: so i should still go for 64bit rather?
[21:18] <zykotick9> tziOm, wouldn't that break your system?  /dev/shm is tmpfs.  Why do you want to prevent this?  i'd guess it's probably a udev rule BTW
[21:18] <Gentoo64> gebbione: yeah
[21:18] <Mysterytrain> does the desktop edition have an SSh installer?
[21:18] <tziOm> dont think devshm is needed
[21:19] <guest1> qmanjr5: kill -s SIGKILL `pgrep  -u $no_this_user bash` -- is to clever to you, ain't it?
[21:19] <bekks> tziOm: Why do you think so?
[21:20] <EvilResistance> Mysterytrain:  define "ssh installer"
[21:20] <Mysterytrain> EvilResistance: able to install ubuntu remotely
[21:21] <tziOm> bekks: works just fine without it mounted
[21:21] <piglit> how can i see what is going wrong with the network there was something like dmesg
[21:21] <qmanjr5> guest1: No, I was just wondering whether or not there is a less-complex command to do it.
[21:21] <usuario> oi
[21:21] <kaguya> hi
[21:21] <guest1> codeshah: /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --port=3306
[21:21] <usuario> tudo beim
[21:21] <EvilResistance> Mysterytrain:  no, there's no way to install ubuntu remotely afaik.  you can *upgrade* remotely, but i dont hink you can install remotely, as you actually need the installation medium at the system
[21:21] <kaguya> Is there a way to install ubuntu on a http://amzn.to/AsusEEEPad-Transformer ?
[21:21] <jmichaelx> i have run into this before, but i am trying to upgrade a netbook running lucid, and i am getting desk full errors.... the disk is not full. i cannot remember what i did the last time this happened. would anyone have a suggestion?
[21:21] <codeshah> guest1: basedir is usr??
[21:22] <guest1> qmanjr5: press on the power buTton?
[21:22] <usuario> oooooo
[21:22] <guest1> codeshah: this from my htop
[21:22] <bekks> jmichaelx: Maybe you are out of inodes. Check it with df -i
[21:22] <qmanjr5> You're bloody hilarious, guest1
[21:22] <guest1> codeshah: mysql is workin
[21:22] <guest1> qmanjr5: hilarios i guess is ?
[21:22] <zykotick9> jmichaelx, do you have multiple partitions?  could you pastebin "df -h"
[21:22] <jmichaelx> bekks: yes, that is it... thanks. now what to do abut that
[21:23] <arsenic> hi, can someone tell me how can I install my tv-card on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:23] <guest1> codeshah: where to look at config ?
[21:23] <bekks> jmichaelx: Free up some space :)
[21:23] <Steak> running Ubuntu live right now
[21:23] <Steak> just downloaded & installed updates
[21:23] <jmichaelx> zykotick9: df -h showed everything as being fine... inode usage is at 99%
[21:23] <Steak> it says "restart to complete updates"  .... very funny
[21:23] <riffautae> jmichaelx: you could clear your apt-cache to free some space
[21:23] <Pumpkin-> I am trying to work out why I don't have a working SSH Agent type setup in xfce like I used to in gnome. "Session and Startup" tab "Application Autostart" shows that "SSH Key Agent (Gnome Keyring: SSH Agent)" should be loaded at startup, and ps shows I have "/usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session startxfce4" running, and my env variable SSH_AGENT_PID is set to that pid ?
[21:24] <riffautae> jmichaelx: none of the old packages will be needed once you upgrade
[21:24] <jmichaelx> bekks: i dunno, t has seemed to me that the inode usage is pretty radical, considering all the things i do not have installed.. and anyways, it does not even let me remove things right now
[21:24] <guest1> codeshah: basedir         = /usr  <- in my.cnf by default on my box
[21:24] <bekks> jmichaelx: "it seems"?
[21:24] <jmichaelx> bekks: yes, it "seems"
[21:25] <jmichaelx> or actually "has seemed"
[21:25] <Pumpkin-> I can just ssh-add it, but with gnome it prompted for it on first use. If the best I can do is ssh-add it on startup, I can live with that
[21:25] <shinytoyguns> type, that would be better.
[21:25] <zykotick9> jmichaelx, i have several partitions that are over 90% full, yet the highest inode usage is only 5%.  Do you have a million+ small files somewhere?
[21:26] <jmichaelx> zykotick9: no, i don't
[21:26] <jmichaelx> which is why i said that the inode usage seems more than a lttle radical
[21:26] <gebbione> is the amd64 right for intel based pcs?
[21:26] <jmichaelx> each time i upgrade this thing, i remoeve more apps to free up space, but the inode usage keeps climbing
[21:26] <zykotick9> gebbione, if you want 64bit then yes
[21:27] <gebbione> zykotick9:  but why is it called amd ?
[21:27] <gebbione> any compatibility issues with intel cpus?
[21:27] <guest1> gebbione: They invented 64?
[21:27] <zykotick9> gebbione, because that's what AMD called their 64 bit architecture, and they where first
[21:28] <gebbione> ok cool thanks
[21:28] <piglit> what was de dmesg for networks?
[21:28] <gebbione> a me finalmente arrivao l'hardisk di ricambio
[21:29] <gebbione> ora carico ubuntu e un sinni parla chiu
[21:29] <guest1> gebbione: it| gebbione
[21:29] <zykotick9> !it | gebbione
[21:29] <gebbione> wrong windoe
[21:30] <guest1> Sounds like a mem.
[21:30] <guest1> + Use right console.
[21:31] <andrew9183> whats a funny prank i can play on my friend whos on ubuntu ?
[21:31] <andrew9183> he put water in my shoe... lol
[21:31] <nosmelc> I made 32-bit and 64-bit Ubuntu USB sticks.  How can I tell which is which?
[21:32] <glebihan> !ot | andrew9183
[21:32] <fokuslee> andrew9183: forkbomb?
[21:32] <andrew9183> whats forkbomb
[21:32] <andrew9183> oh ok glebihan
[21:32] <zykotick9> nosmelc, you could try "uname -m" from a terminal
[21:32] <guest1> fokuslee: cat /bin/false > /bin/bash ?
[21:33] <zykotick9> fokuslee, don't do what guest1 just suppested!
[21:33] <bekks> guest1: That cannot be undone that easy.
[21:33] <guest1> nosmelc: mmmm, any readme in sticks?
[21:33] <nosmelc> zykotick9: how about if I'm just looking at the contents of the USB stick?
[21:33] <nosmelc> guest1: yeah
[21:33] <zykotick9> nosmelc, not sure
[21:34] <fokuslee> zykotick9: yeah i know
[21:34] <fokuslee> LOL
[21:34] <andrewd13> anyone ever bought an Asus PC and got the Windows refund?
[21:35] <zykotick9> andrewd13, i don't think windows gives refunds since XP - but it's OT in this channel
[21:36] <andrewd13> well, if I buy a PC and install UBuntu, how do I get my money back ont he windows license I'm not using?
[21:36] <antnash> Hi guys I was hoping someone could help me get my tv card working. It works fine in OpenELEC (based on kernel 3.1.0) but it won't register at all on my ubuntu 11.10 box
[21:36] <M4LV4D0> :)
[21:36] <jmichaelx> andrewd13: by hawking it on craigslist
[21:36] <guest1> nosmelc: file /boot/*
[21:36] <antnash> I can find it in lsusb, but no reference at all is made to dvb in dmesg
[21:37] <guest1> nosmelc: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 3.0.0-rc6-686-pae
[21:37] <piglit> is there some kind of error log for umts ?
[21:37] <nosmelc> guest1: thanks  :)
[21:38] <guest1> nosmelc: good
[21:38] <guest1> nosmelc: i love file command ;)
[21:41] <antnash> Can anyone tell me how to install dvb drivers that wouldn't necessarily be when starting a fresh system?
[21:42] <ChosenOne> hey guys. when will firefox 8 come for oneiric? I know I could use PPAs, but when will it come without ppas? they changed update policies for firefox on oneiric, right?
[21:43] <tziOm> My system is rooted, but I cant find the guy, processes and everything is hidden. Where do I start?
[21:43] <ChosenOne> monitor network traffic from the next hop?
[21:44] <bekks> How do you know it is rooted?
[21:44] <ChosenOne> or boot a sane system and find files then
[21:44] <ChosenOne> from outside the running system, just mounting it
[21:44] <Pumpkin-> frankly, by wiping it and starting again (after backing up non-executable data). However, why are you so sure you have been rooted ?
[21:44] <fokuslee> nosmelc: file /boot/*
[21:45] <fokuslee> hey can someone help me with my ubuntu 11.10 upgrade? after i upgraded i can no longer power down my computer or restart, it just hangs at the shutdown splash
[21:45] <antnash> Can I upgrade linux kernel from source files in ubuntu?
[21:46] <tziOm> bekks: he has managed to create files as owned by root:root.. so
[21:46] <popsch> is there a convenient way to store a snapshot from apt-get before installing new packages, so I can purge all packages after trying some software?
[21:46] <bekks> tziOm: A file called "yougotrooted.txt"?
[21:47] <tziOm> nah drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Nov 10 21:33 wn
[21:48] <Pumpkin-> thats a directory, what is in it ?
[21:49] <Forage_> I'm playing around with the LiveCD and I'd like to disable the auto login and be presented with lightdm and the option to choose between unity 2d/3d. As suggested at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219099 I removed  /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/15autologin and executed "sudo update-initramfs -u"  but this did not do the trick
[21:49] <tziOm> go-a go-b ss try wn
[21:49] <tziOm> he is root, thats it, but I cant find any processes nor open ports.
[21:50] <Forage_> how should I disable the auto login of the livecd?
[21:50] <guest1> Forage_: just edit some rc file of lightgdm
[21:50] <arsenic> Hello!!! How can I install my TVGO a11MCE on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:50] <skegeek> htop reports half ram is used, swap is barely touched. Is that a sign I need to increase swappiness??
[21:50] <Forage_> guest1: "some rc file"?
[21:51] <guest1> Forage_: dpkg -L lightgdm (or how it calls) | grep etc
[21:51] <glebihan> antnash, yes you can. You have to compile the kernel, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (but be sure that's what you want to do, usually there's no point in compiling the kernel youself)
[21:51] <guest1> Forage_: grep auto /etc/lightgdm/lightgdmrc (for example)
[21:52] <Um_cara_qualquer> Where is the "emesene" directory on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:52] <glebihan> Forage_, on the livecd you can't disable it
[21:52] <guest1> Um_cara_qualquer: locate emesence
[21:52] <plut0> chromium no longer loads, i see this error from the linux shell: [3083:3094:924814157:FATAL:plugin_service.cc(73)] Check failed: false. Plugin loading should happen out-of-process. Aborted
[21:52] <Forage_> glebihan: :-(
[21:52] <glebihan> guest1, you cannot modify files in the /etc folder on a livecd
[21:52] <guest1> glebihan: oh
[21:53] <guest1> can
[21:53] <guest1> i can modify in temporary memory
[21:53] <Forage_> glebihan: is there any other way to get a login screen after boot, or a different way to choose which shell it should use?
[21:53] <cedeon> are many of you guys using empathy in here? im not sure i like it
[21:53] <Um_cara_qualquer> guest1 didn't found :(
[21:53] <glebihan> guest1, yes and that won't solve the autologin issue
[21:54] <Um_cara_qualquer> *find
[21:54] <blz> cedeon, empathy is the first thing i uninstall!
[21:54] <blz> cedeon, were you looking for a replacement?
[21:54] <kenperkins> does anyone know how (via conf file
[21:54] <glebihan> Forage_, once you get to the desktop, logout then you get back to the login screen
[21:54] <kenperkins> to force flash into software mode on ubuntu?
[21:54] <melon> Hello, i have just installed ubuntu 10.10, yeah!
[21:54] <guest1> Um_cara_qualquer: dpkg -L emesene
[21:54] <cedeon> yes i think so, this is way too spatious for my liking... what irc client do you recommend?
[21:54] <plut0> chromium no longer loads, i see this error from the linux shell: [3083:3094:924814157:FATAL:plugin_service.cc(73)] Check failed: false. Plugin loading should happen out-of-process. Aborted
[21:54] <Forage_> glebihan: there is no logout option in the menu?
[21:54] <soreau> glebihan: Since when?
[21:55] <guest1> cedeon: weeeeeeeeeeeechat
[21:55] <Um_cara_qualquer> guest1 (y)
[21:55] <glebihan> soreau, it doesn't ?
[21:55] <blz> cedeon, well for IRC i use x-chat (sudo apt-get install xchat).  For IM with AIM/gTalk, I use pidgin
[21:55] <Offlein> The latest Amazon MP3 downloader files do not work in the Natty-approved version of Banshee (2.2.0). What is the best way to upgrade Banshee to 2.2.1?
[21:55] <SIFTU> cedeon: weechat & bitlbee
[21:55] <cedeon> blz: yes ive used xchat on windows and like it
[21:55] <sukkel> irssi
[21:55] <glebihan> Forage_, apparently I was wrong sorry, haven't used a livecd for some time
[21:55] <blz> cedeon, well there you go =)
[21:55] <melon> (irssi rocks!)
[21:55] <guest1> I use Pudgin as all in one. I'm to lazy to launch separate app,
[21:56] <guest1> irsssi is hard to command
[21:56] <sukkel> irssi+bitlbee rocks
[21:56] <blz> guest1, I could never get irc to work in pidgin for some reason
[21:56] <blz> but i haven't tried since a couple of versions
[21:56] <sukkel> msn facebook in irc i love it
[21:56] <arsenic> Hello!!! How can I install my TVGO a11MCE on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:56] <fokuslee> melon: hey how do you split a screen in irssi? i am force to use it at work
[21:56] <antnash_> Can I upgrade ubuntu 11.10 to use kernel 3.2.0 rc1 from source?
[21:56] <guest1> blz ?
[21:56] <cedeon> hmm never heard of irssi, will lmgtfy it
[21:56] <MaSo> http://www.cn234.net
[21:57] <glebihan> !kernel > antnash_
[21:57] <sukkel> also weechat is nice
[21:57] <sukkel> but i prefer irssi
[21:57] <cheerio> hello
[21:57] <Um_cara_qualquer> guest1 excuse me again, I'm having trouble with conection of emesene, but on the site is this file https://github.com/emesene/emesene/zipball/master it says that must be extract somewhere... and I can't figure it out where X_X
[21:57] <melon> fokuslee, i don't remember, so here is a link ^^ : http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit
[21:57] <fokuslee> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit
[21:57] <Forage_> Offlein: keep an eye on https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa banshee 2.2.1 will be available their in the near future
[21:58] <arsenic> Hello!!! How can I install my TVGO a11MCE on ubuntu 10.10?
[21:58] <Offlein> Forage_ wahhh. I want it now. Maybe I'll just go to source. :P
[21:58] <melon> So many people, it's a mess here
[21:58] <glebihan> Um_cara_qualquer, why don't  you install emesene from the repositories ?
[21:59] <Um_cara_qualquer> I did
[21:59] <Offlein> Actually I can probably install using the banshee-unstable PPA can't I?
[21:59] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, what are you trying to do exactly?  Are you missing a dependency?
[21:59] <Forage_> Offlein: that's an option as well, or daily
[21:59] <Offlein> Forage_ Thank you!
[21:59] <Forage_> np
[21:59] <guest1> Um_cara_qualquer: updatedb && locate emesene-emesene-v2.11.9-90-g9f1e4bd.zip
[21:59] <glebihan> Um_cara_qualquer, why are you downloading it from github then ?
[22:00] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz i'm not sure, it just does not conect... ever
[22:00] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmm
[22:00] <guest1> Um_cara_qualquer: find ~ type f -iname "*emesene*"
[22:00] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, does it give you any sort of error?
[22:00] <Um_cara_qualquer> no
[22:00] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, a good start would be to run it from the terminal and pastebin the terminal output for us
[22:00] <Um_cara_qualquer> if it does it's an hour later... when i already lost the hope hehe
[22:01] <Um_cara_qualquer> ok
[22:01] <Um_cara_qualquer> hang on
[22:01] <Forage_> guest1: there are no such rc files you mention. Did you manage to disable the auto login?
[22:01] <glebihan> Forage_, already told you that's not possible
[22:01] <guest1> Forage_: in kderc yeah, in gdm also
[22:02] <guest1> * kdmrc
[22:02] <Forage_> but there must be some way for me to get the login screen, isn't there? I don't care if it's after the boot
[22:03] <guest1> Forage_: man -k login
[22:04] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running fbpanel with aewm and fbpanel refuses to hide/unhide windows when clicking them from the taskbar, but right-clicking and selecting iconify/raise works. What's up with this behaviour?
[22:04] <Untitled_only> hey room, has anyone been having trouble connecting via VNC connection 11.10
[22:05] <glebihan> Forage_, only way I can think of (and I really don't think it's going to work) is to run "killall gnome-session" in a terminal
[22:05] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/734691/
[22:06] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, is this the entire output?
[22:06] <Beret> anyone else noticed that Chrome brings Oneiric's alt-tab switcher to its knees?
[22:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, it doesn't go further
[22:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> yes
[22:06] <Um_cara_qualquer> it stays like this forever
[22:06] <apwbdjp> Forage_, I'm sure I've read about ways to throw gdm manually, but I never thought to dig, you might have to google.
[22:06] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, I ask because I don't see where you issued the command
[22:07] <robin0800> Forage_, you can log out and then choose but you will need to know the username and the password for the live cd
[22:07] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, are you on your home network?
[22:07] <Forage_> robin0800: how can I logout without the menu item?
[22:08] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, yes
[22:08] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, I'd start by making sure that you don't have any relevant ports blocked
[22:08] <Forage_> apwbdjp: the way I found was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219099 but it does not work
[22:08] <blz> beyond that I'm not sure what the problem is =/ I don't see any obvious error
[22:08] <blz> have you tried another client?
[22:08] <Forage_> apwbdjp: at least not for 11.10
[22:08] <robin0800> Forage_, you can log out and then choose but you will need to know the username and the password for the live cd
[22:08] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, it was conecting normally few days ago
[22:08] <apwbdjp> Forage_, is it okkay if you restate your original problem? I came a bit late..
[22:08] <milen8204> hello all how to dismiss cairo-Dock from starting whit the Ubuntu starting ?
[22:08] <nosmelc> I have a machine booted to a Ubuntu Live USB stick.  How do I get to a command prompt?
[22:09] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, yeah that sounds like a firewall issue then.  Check that first
[22:09] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, hmmmm
[22:09] <Forage_> robin0800: how can I logout? The user/shutdown menu has no logout option
[22:09] <apwbdjp> nosmelc, either Ctrl+Alt+T to open gnome-terminal, or Ctrl+Alt+F1 to go to the console.
[22:09] <nosmelc> apwbdjp: thanks
[22:09] <codeshah> hey guys, if I installed a rpm with alien how do I uninstall it
[22:10] <Gremuchnik> Hi, is there a "mount cache" I can purge?  I mounted a disk, then unmounted it, but the shortcut to remount it is stuck on my desktop...
[22:10] <apwbdjp> nosmelc, from the console, don't forget to do Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to Display
[22:10] <itchee> hey, got a  question about connecting two computers, via serial ports. i have them connected and working {ubuntu using minicom on one, winxp with hyperterminal on ther other). I can type between the two, but here's what iam looking for! I want to type commands into the winxpbix, and have the ubuntu box repeat back to me what ever it is i type.
[22:10] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, I'm not sure how to open firewall on linux :P
[22:10] <bekks> Gremuchnik: No, there is no mount cache.
[22:10] <Forage_> apwbdjp: I'd like to either disable auto login of the livecd, or force login to unity 2d or 3d in any other way
[22:10] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, then it's not the linux firewall
[22:10] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, check your router's NAT
[22:10] <Gremuchnik> bekks,  so what is the icon of the device which I removed still there?
[22:11] <itchee> I have a projector at church that is connected to a winxp box, via old school cable with db9 connectors, using the harware com port on the back of the computer. I can send specially formated plain text commands to it,  example *pow=on# or *sour=hdmi# and it will power on an off, or switch  sources! i am trying to write a simple VB program to send these commands at the push of a button. because
[22:11] <itchee> i don't have 24/7 access to the projector and computer, i am trying to simulate this with two machines connected.
[22:11] <bekks> Gremuchnik: I have no clue.
[22:11] <Gremuchnik> bekks, ok :-)  same here...
[22:11] <glebihan> Forage_, the first solution suggested on the thread you mentioned cannot work, the second one maybe but that would mean rebuilding the live cd yourself, I don't think that's what you want to do
[22:11] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, I'm not that expert yet... how do I check that?
[22:11] <robin0800> Forage_, ctl + alt + delete
[22:11] <robin0800> Forage_, ctl + alt + delete
[22:11] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, that will depend on your router
[22:12] <Forage_> glebihan: indeed, rebuilding is beyond the purpose of testing
[22:12] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, if you haven't changed anything it's probably not that.  Just try another client like pidgin
[22:12] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmm...
[22:12] <itchee> have a null modem cable between the two, and using Hyperterminal on the winxpbox, and minicom on the ubuntu, i can open the com ports and type back and forth.  now i am trying to get the ubuntu box to repeat back to me, what i type from the windows box,
[22:12] <itchee> have googled the hell out of it
[22:13] <apwbdjp> robin0800, that might be a good idea, Forage_, tried it?
[22:13] <itchee> help?
[22:13] <milen8204> how to remove some programe from start up menu ? (to start whit the system)
[22:13] <milen8204> ?
[22:13] <Forage_> robin0800: muchas gracias! Strangely enough the del button on the numpad does not work but the actual delete key does :-S
[22:13] <milen8204> in ubuntu 11.10
[22:13] <wolfmitchell> How do I give the GRUB menu a background?
[22:14] <Forage_> apwbdjp: will try that, I'll be back in a sec if it did not work out as expected ;-)
[22:14] <apwbdjp> wolfmitchell, I don't think that's possible..
[22:15] <Fuchs> I think it is
[22:15] <apwbdjp> wolfmitchell, actually I googled, and found this: http://hacktux.com/grub/background
[22:15] <Fuchs> splashimage=(hd0,4)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz  or similar for grub1
[22:15] <fokuslee> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit
[22:15] <Fuchs> there is a similar option for grub2
[22:16] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, pidgin is working
[22:16] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, then either use that or try to figure out why your client is not.  Google is your friend =)
[22:16] <Forage__> apwbdjp, robin0800: works like a charm! cheers
[22:17] <apwbdjp> Forage_, all credit goes to robin0800, I didn't think of it ^^
[22:17] <Forage__> apwbdjp: though I still find it weird that it's not posible to simply disable the auto login
[22:18] <Fusionite> Hey guys
[22:18] <Forage__> apwbdjp: yeah, but just to let you know in case of any one else comes with a similar question
[22:18] <Fusionite> How do you change chat window in Irssi??
[22:18] <apwbdjp> The Ubuntu live CD hasn't exactly been designed for much more than trying, and a few repairs and stuffs, I think
[22:19] <Fusionite> Yeah
[22:19] <Myrtti> Fusionite: alt+number
[22:19] <Forage__> Fusionite: by asking in the Irssi channel? :-S
[22:19] <ezrafree> hello
[22:19] <Um_cara_qualquer> blz, i found this file https://github.com/emesene/emesene/zipball/master ... but it does not say where extract and run it...
[22:19] <Fusionite> Thanks lol
[22:19] <Fusionite> Forage__: I am new to freenode, Alot of chans here lmao
[22:19] <glebihan> Forage__, to be able to disable auto login, you would need to be able to write some configuration files on the CD itself, which is impossible
[22:19] <blz> Um_cara_qualquer, you shouldn't have to compile anything from source
[22:19] <blz> maybe you're missing a dependency?
[22:19] <Forage__> glebihan: I"m on usb ;-)
[22:20] <Fusionite> and I need to fill out a bug reort
[22:20] <Fusionite> Report *
[22:20] <ezrafree> i am running compiz and gnome toghether and whenever i boot i must manually type "gnome-panel" in the terminal. can anyone tell me how i could get gnome-panel to start automatically?
[22:20] <Jonii> Hey, is there any point in pressing ctrl+alt+f1?
[22:20] <Fusionite> 1
[22:21] <Jonii> You get to text-terminal that way. I'm kinda wondering if there are reasons to try to use your computer that way
[22:21] <Forage__> glebihan: sorry, I of the assumption that all or putting the livecd on usb, though I should have mentioned it
[22:21] <nd456> Can anyone help me with my choppy audio playback? (ubuntu 10.04LTS)
[22:21] <glebihan> Forage__, well the live CD has been designed to be burnt to a CD not a USB
[22:21] <Jonii> The idea seems pretty neat
[22:21] <Forage__> glebihan: does it make it possible now in usb by any chance? ;-)
[22:21] <foolove> I need to do a find command with an ignore case build a list of files and pass that list to a gzcat??  hoping someone can help  :-)
[22:21] <glebihan> Forage__, I don't think so
[22:22] <Forage__> darn
[22:22] <jrib> foolove: not sure what you are asking...
[22:22] <Jonii> Anyone? Can anyone point me to a tutorial that explains the point behind text-terminals in this day of guis?
[22:22] <Forage__> ow well, loging out first after boot is acceptable. Thanks for your help
[22:22] <apwbdjp> glebihan, someone just today told me that the iso from the website is now hybrid that can be dd'ed into a USB too
[22:23] <iceroot> apwbdjp: 11.10, yes
[22:23] <foolove> i have files that are case sensitive that i need to find build a list off that and then pass that list to a gzcat the flies are compressed proxy logs use gzcat with grep to grep through the list of files
[22:23] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running fbpanel with aewm and fbpanel refuses to hide/unhide windows when clicking them from the taskbar, but right-clicking and selecting iconify/raise works. What's up with this behaviour?
[22:23] <foolove> i need to use find to potentially ignore case
[22:23] <foolove> bc gzcat does not have an ignore case
[22:23] <sumpter> where does the optical drive mount at?
[22:23] <foolove> thanks for responding jrib
[22:23] <ezrafree> Jonii: terminals allow you to enter any command options you wish, allowing for greater control of specific functionality to your own personal needs sometimes. some ppl need the extra control and some don't, so it all just depends on your needs.
[22:23] <sumpter> i can't access it from /media/(disk name)
[22:24] <jrib> foolove: give an example...
[22:24] <glebihan> apwbdjp, that's true, but I don't think it changes anything about that issue
[22:24] <sumpter> someone told me it was something like: /dev/fstab
[22:24] <jrib> foolove: why don't you just do gzcat FILES
[22:24] <Jonii> ezrafree, that I understand, but there's a difference between ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+t.
[22:24] <apwbdjp> glebihan, right.
[22:24] <Forage__> apwbdjp, glebihan: the fact that I can install other packages as well when booting the livecd on usb made me think I could change much more
[22:24] <flopex> Jonii: some people are more efficient using just the keyboard.
[22:24] <jost__> Jonii: What about administrating remote machines (Which may have no Desktop installed)? Efficience in achieving some goal? Lack of good GUI?
[22:24] <foolove> bc trust me i need a way to ignore case
[22:24] <sumpter> where does the optical drive mount at?
[22:24] <jrib> foolove: that's fine, so do that
[22:25] <foolove> i have a script that generates a HUGE command using another program
[22:25] <ezrafree> Jonii: well if X isn't set up properly you may need to use ctrl-alt-f1 to get back to the command line and fix things
[22:25] <guest1> sumpter: /mnt
[22:25] <foolove> go
[22:25] <foolove> ok
[22:25] <jrib> foolove: mbaybe I can ask this way... how are you finding the files
[22:25] <sumpter> @guest1 theres nothing there
[22:25] <glebihan> Forage__, you can ?
[22:25] <guest1> sumpter: is it mounted?
[22:25] <Jonii> ezrafree: and that is all? I thought I could try some sort of a "Hey, I'll try to figure out how to do stuff on my computer without using GUI"
[22:25] <Jonii> In case it would be educational or something
[22:26] <sumpter> @guest1 how do i mount it?
[22:26] <guest1> Jonii: and?
[22:26] <Forage__> glebihan: ow yeah! It's persistent, settings, documents and packages all remain available after boot
[22:26] <guest1> sumpter: ls /dev
[22:26] <ezrafree> Jonii: no that's just one example of why you would need ctrl-alt-f1
[22:26] <foolove> I have no method yet traditionally just gzcat filename.gz | grep string1 | grep string2 | grep string3 > /searchdirectory/filename.log
[22:26] <glebihan> Forage__, then I guess there must be a way to prevent autologin
[22:26] <guest1> sumpter: mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt
[22:26] <Forage__> glebihan: thought so
[22:26] <bekks> foolove: "man zgrep" :)
[22:26] <KageMusha> Hello all.
[22:26] <sumpter> @guest1 now which one is the cd drive
[22:26] <Jonii> guest1: well, I'm kinda trying to understand this linux-thing
[22:27] <guest1> foolove: and "zcat"
[22:27] <bekks> guest1: zcat isnt needed at that point.
[22:27] <Jonii> But google only gives me seriously lacking and outdated ubuntu wiki pages and stuff tangentially related
[22:27] <guest1> sumpter: smth like /dev/sr0
[22:27] <jost__> Jonii: automating things is another reason for using command lines. This is also true in Windows and other operation systems.
[22:27] <foolove> i know zgrep but i do zgrep -i pattern1 pattern2 pattern3 filename.gz > outputfile.log
[22:28] <jrib> foolove: ok, so what's the issue?
[22:28] <foolove> i get not love the thing i need to bypass with my command
[22:28] <skegeek> htop reports half ram is used, swap is barely touched. Is that a sign I need to increase swappiness??
[22:28] <KageMusha> I am i need of a bit of help from someone who knows how to build custom ubuntu packages. Is there anyone willing to help me?
[22:28] <foolove> is the case sensitivity of the filename
[22:28] <foolove> filename.gz
[22:28] <debynqn> hi
[22:28] <foolove> i need to bypass case sensitivity of the input ifle
[22:28] <KageMusha> I have tried google, but its not helping 100%
[22:28] <foolove> file
[22:28] <sumpter> @guest1 i think that worked, it said something about read only mounting
[22:28] <guest1> sumpter: mount -ro
[22:28] <foolove> zgrep -i jus tdoes ignore case on pattern
[22:28] <jrib> foolove: how are you generating the list of filenames...
[22:29] <Jonii> I'm kinda asking is that if there are any neat things you could do with that, that would result in deeper understanding of ubuntu and linux in general
[22:29] <Forage__> glebihan: and by the looks of it /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/15autologin must be the part that causes the auto login. Maybe something is going wrong with updating initramfs after removing that file
[22:29] <bekks> foolove: the sensitivity the input filename is totally irrelevant to the command.
[22:29] <melon> Re, I have a few question: How remove the trash from the dock? how to add a shorcut to show the desktop / hide all windows ?
[22:29] <foolove> bekks i get a file not file
[22:29] <glebihan> Forage__, edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and try modifiying the autologin parameters in there
[22:29] <foolove> file not found
[22:29] <foolove> so it is case sensitive
[22:29] <ezrafree> how can i get gnome-panel to start automatically when i log in? i always have to type gnome-panel in the terminal manually
[22:29] <apwbdjp> foolove, yes it is, Linux is. What are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[22:29] <foolove> through hash key value pairs in my code the 200 plus list i was sent the wrong filenames i do not want to go back through these
[22:30] <bekks> foolove: Then use the correct filename?
[22:30] <Jonii> I'm not exactly sure what I'm asking for. I don't know enough about this linux-mindset to be able to form good questions about it just yet, but it seems most linux-oriented people are also seriously cli-oriented
[22:30] <foolove> that is a lot of redoing im trying to come up with a work around the code generates a long command based on variables i parse in another program in my code
[22:30] <guest1> ezrafree: in ~/.bashrc for example
[22:30] <foolove> then the end output is a long command if i can pass parameters in my command to overlook case sensitivity of the filename for the command im good to go
[22:31] <SIFTU> Jonii: it's easier to expalin cli commands over irc than it is gui clicks
[22:31] <SIFTU> Jonii: it's also easier to automate tasks with cli
[22:31] <melon> ezrafree, add it to the startup application...for example ( in systeme -> app at startup)
[22:31] <mmercer> hey guys, so rather curious, how exactly is it that ubuntu survives with the notion that there is only amd 64 bit?  the only download that is 64 bit is flat out named amd, which of course uses a different set of instructions and optimizations than say an intel core i5... sooo what the heck does someone with a core i5 download to have 64 bit support on an INTEL machine
[22:32] <sumpter> @guest1 its still not working
[22:32] <danely> Hello, i am using 2 Servers with ubuntu 10.04 LTS. And i try to sync a folder on each of the servers. The folder has 160GB on server A, 270GB on server B. Server A is the unison server and accesses Server B via SSH. Once Unison starts the scan everything works fine. Server A finishes its scan and says "  Waiting for changes from server ". Then after some time Server B hangs and is no longer responsive (neither ping or anyhting). I can'
[22:32] <apwbdjp> foolove, whoa.. I guess you do have a bit of an issue here.. it's pretty tricky
[22:32] <danely> Any suggestions?
[22:32] <jrib> mmercer: use amd64
[22:32] <melon> mmercer, there is a 32bit and a 64 bit iso in the download section
[22:32] <mmercer> ....
[22:32] <guest1> sumpter: cd is usb or in rack?
[22:32] <neezer> hi everyone
[22:32] <gebbione> 11.10 is giving all sort of problems when installing
[22:32] <sumpter> @guest1 its a dvdrw drive
[22:32] <jrib> foolove: you can use find -iname I suppose
[22:32] <KageMusha> danely: tried rsync?
[22:32] <foolove> apwbdjp indeed i do  :) .....I am glad you understand my issue though and at least sense some of my pain
[22:32] <melon> mmercer, amd64 is fully compatible with intel proc
[22:32] <sumpter> @guest1 built in
[22:32] <Jonii> Basically, if there's a web resource which explains what cli is for, explains how to operate it and gives interesting ideas about how to use it, I'd be all ears
[22:32] <mmercer> melon: and again, the 64 bit is labelled specifically *amd*, which implies that it is optimized for AMDs architecture...  which is rather oxymoronic
[22:33] <bekks> gebbione: negative, negative. Please specify.
[22:33] <guest1> sumpter: pastebin "ls /dev"
[22:33] <SIFTU> danely: why not just rsync?
[22:33] <danely> KageMusha: no, since unison uses the rsync protocol and i want it to work 2 ways
[22:33] <xangua> mmercer: is just a generic name for 64bit
[22:33] <melon> mmercer, or not, it's a norm, see wikipedia
[22:33] <danely> SIFTU: rsync is pretty much just one way
[22:33] <gebbione> 11.10 is giving all sort of problems when installing, kernel panic and more  ..... bekks not sure what i can specify
[22:33] <ezrafree> guest1: placing a line that says "gnome-panel" in .bashrc makes me see "Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running." every time i start a terminal
[22:33] <guest1> Jonii: sudo ifdown -a && man man
[22:33] <foolove> so find -iname filname.gz then how would i pass gzcat to that just pipe it jrib? i need to build a list off of find
[22:33] <gebbione> i wonder if i need to try with 11.04 instead?
[22:34] <KageMusha> danely: so you want to to sync changes on both sides?
[22:34] <guest1> foolove: execdir {} +
[22:34] <bekks> gebbione: "all sorts of problems" isnt very specific. start with the first problem you are encountering?
[22:34] <melon> ezrafree, so you can kill gnome-panel and lauch another
[22:34] <jrib> foolove: you can use -exec or xargs
[22:34] <SIFTU> danely: then do it in 2 jobs.. or do you mean each filesystem is mirrored and changes can happen at either end?
[22:34] <danely> KageMusha: Yes. but what worries me more is that not only unison crashes but the whole server. no ssh, ping or anything
[22:34] <gebbione> i just start install and it gives me kernel panics ... and exits the install
[22:34] <mmercer> okies :)
[22:34] <mmercer> tnx guys
[22:34] <ezrafree> melon: is there a way to just check if it's running or not and only start it if it's not running?
[22:34] <Pumpkin-> mmercer: the 32bit version is labelled "i386", but it won't run in a 386
[22:34] <danely> SIFTU: i could try that. that wouldn't solve the problem that unison is able to crash an entire server though
[22:34] <sumpter> @guest1 http://pastebin.com/6NRn7L8X
[22:35] <guest1> foolove: find ~/Documents/TXT  -maxdepth 1 -type f -execdir basename {} + | sort
[22:35] <Jonii> guest1: man is indiscrimating, it contains everything, not highlighting anything in particular.
[22:35] <Jonii> Which is not what I'm looking for
[22:35] <apwbdjp> foolove, know about the `command` syntax?
[22:35] <KageMusha> danely: can still be done with rsync over ssh.. but it is strange that unison crashes.
[22:35] <guest1> jonii: help --help ;)
[22:35] <melon> ezrafree, hummm...i think yes, you can make a "ps -a | grep gnome-panel" and if it return something, gnome-panel is running
[22:35] <jrib> foolove: note you may have the issue that you have 'a' in your list but both 'a' and 'A' exist.  What do you do then?
[22:35] <foolove> man im getting confused and for this I apologize I am trying to still yet figure out the full command I like the ideas
[22:35] <Forage__> glebihan: that must be the one, too bad the possible options aren't included in the man
[22:36] <ezrafree> melon: yes but how to write that in bash for the .bashrc file?
[22:36] <danely> SIFTU, KageMusha: actually i want to find out why unison and the whole server crashes. i suspect a kernel panic since no logs are written or anything. Any hints on how i can trace the crash? the log just stops at some point and starts again at reboot. also, the crashing server is off site
[22:36] <glebihan> Forage__, I think that if you remove the value from autologin-user, it should be ok
[22:36] <bsmith093> i have a bunch of mp3 files, in subfolders, is there something to merge them together one mp3 to each subfolder without doing the merge by hand for every folder?
[22:36] <gebbione> bekks:  my machine is one of the latest i7 based systems ... any idea why the install panics and exits? suggestions on how to get it installed?
[22:36] <sumpter> @guest1 http://pastebin.com/6NRn7L8X
[22:37] <gebbione> bekks: i am using unetbootin
[22:37] <Forage__> glebihan: there's also autologin-user-timeout and autologin-session
[22:37] <KageMusha> danely: do you use a vanilla kernel or homemade?
[22:37] <danely> bsmith093: there is unionFS
[22:37] <Jonii> So there's nothing?
[22:37] <jrib> bsmith093: probably ffmpeg
[22:37] <glebihan> Forage__, afaik those won't be used if autologin-user is not set
[22:37] <Forage__> glebihan: especially autologin-session=lightdm-autologin
[22:37] <ezrafree> could i just do something like: if [ -x "ps -a | grep gnome-panel" == "" ] gnome-panel; fi
[22:37] <danely> KageMusha: vanilla: 2.6.32-35-server #78-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 11
[22:37] <KageMusha> danely: and when you use rsync do you use the syntax: rsync -avz -e ssh remoteuser@remotehost:/remote/dir /this/dir/
[22:37] <melon> ezrafree, i don't know, sorry, you have to learn a bit of bash (if / endif ) and a command to analyse the output (or you can fix your problemen in a more beautiful way ^^)
[22:37] <Forage__> glebihan: ah, ok
[22:37] <bekks> gebbione: What is the first error you are expecting?
[22:38] <danely> KageMusha: right now i use unison with a profile.
[22:38] <rypervenche> I'm running ddrescue from a live CD and I want to install a deb package onto it. However, it says there is no space left on my device. Is there anyway to free up space on the live session?
[22:38] <danely> KageMusha: i haven't tried rsync yet, since that wasn't the way i was going for in the first place
[22:39] <pac1> how do I report a bug that occurs during boot?
[22:39] <KageMusha> danely: ok, I haven't worked with unison that much, use rsync for all that type of stuff.
[22:39] <aeon-ltd> pac1: verbose/text boot then you can see the error
[22:39] <pac1> what do you mean?
[22:40] <KageMusha> danely: do you happen to know how to build custom ubuntu packages? =P
[22:40] <nosmelc> I mounted a file share from a Windows machine, but I'm only getting read-only access to it.  Why is that?
[22:41] <aeon-ltd> pac1: you can set to not have gui boot
[22:41] <sumpter> @guest1 http://pastebin.com/6NRn7L8X
[22:41] <danely> KageMusha: .deb files? i've done it before but it's a mess if you ask me
[22:41] <guest1> sumpter: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/mount-as-a-device-mount-dvd-iso-file-in-dev-dvd-384271/
[22:41] <pac1> aeon-ltd why?  the error is right there in dmesg.
[22:41] <KageMusha> nosmelc: check access level on win machine.
[22:41] <nosmelc> KageMusha: it's Full Controll for All
[22:41] <pac1> I'm trying to find out how to report the error.
[22:42] <aeon-ltd> pac1: oh ok
[22:42] <KageMusha> danely: yes I know. But Im not trying to do anything advanced. just add some scripts.
[22:42] <aeon-ltd> !bugreport
[22:42] <KageMusha> nosmelc: even guest?
[22:42] <aeon-ltd> !bugs
[22:42] <nosmelc> KageMusha: well no, but I provided a user name and password in the mount command
[22:43] <KageMusha> danely: I have gotten so far as I can make a package that installs packages that I want, but the files included in the deb file dont end up in the system.
[22:43] <guest1> nosmelc: mount from root
[22:43] <murpl> I am running Ubuntu 11.10. I have successfully installed classic gnome (Gnome 2 I believe) and it works fine, but I would like to avoid having to log out (Ubuntu is set to login automatically) and select Gnome Classic when logging back in. In other words, I would like to automatically login to Gnome Classic when I turn on my computer. Can this be done relatively easily?
[22:43] <xangua> murpl: there is no gnome2 on oneiric
[22:43] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running fbpanel with aewm and fbpanel refuses to hide/unhide windows when clicking them from the taskbar, but right-clicking and selecting iconify/raise works. What's up with this behaviour?
[22:43] <nosmelc> guest1: I used sudo.  Isn't that the same?
[22:43] <gebbione> bekks: this is the screenshot http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15482613/IMG_0784.JPG ... you cant really read it but essentially the install exits with a generic fault error
[22:43] <guest1> nosmelc: use ntfs-3g command
[22:43] <danely> KageMusha: i think the best i can help you with is this link: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html
[22:43] <murpl> gebbione: So Gnome 3 I suppose?
[22:43] <danely> KageMusha: but i'm pretty sure you know that already ;)
[22:43] <murpl> xangua: So Gnome 3 I suppose?
[22:44] <gebbione> murpl: i guess i just used the GUI installer
[22:44] <xangua> murpl: set gnome fallback as default on the login screen
[22:44] <murpl> xangua: how do I do that?
[22:44] <bekks> gebbione: Try using the "nosmp" kernel option for booting the install cd.
[22:44] <MDesigner> is there an ubuntu dev channel?
[22:44] <danely> KageMusha: the last time i've done that is 2+ years ago. i don't really remember anything, sorry
[22:44] <xangua> murpl: go to the login screen first, and then set gnome fallback mode as default
[22:44] <gebbione> bekks i ll try thanks ...
[22:45] <KageMusha> danely: yes, have been looking at a lot of those pages, problem is that what I want to do seems to be too simple to be included.
[22:45] <flopex> KageMusha: try this http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html
[22:45] <nosmelc> guest1: will I be able to use ntfs-3g booting from a USB stick?
[22:45] <tdowg1> nosmelc: also, you should have in fstab something like these options : username=USERNAME,pass=PASSWORD,rw,noauto,users
[22:46] <murpl> xangua: That sounds almost too easy. I can't remember seeing an option to make anything the default, but I'll give it a try. If I don't get back into the channel in 5 minutes you solved my problem and I'm very thankful!
[22:46] <KageMusha> danely: basically I have a standard firewall script. and want to install some standard packages since I install a alot of servers. like lsof, ntpdate and so on. I get the installations but the firewall script doesnt go anywere.
[22:46] <tdowg1> after that, you should be able to mount as a regular user (no sudo) and be able to write it (assuming permissions are ok on the windows side of course)
[22:47] <KageMusha> flopex: thx, I'll check it out.
[22:47] <Forage_> glebihan: that's it!
[22:48] <glebihan> Forage_, nice :)
[22:48] <Forage_> glebihan: I still get presented with a try/install dialog first, but ow well
[22:49] <sumpter> @guest1 i got it to work
[22:49] <sumpter> @guest1 but now i cant eject cds
[22:49] <guest1> sumpter: how?
[22:49] <murpl> xangua: In the login screen there is no option to set the default, at least none that I can see.
[22:49] <Forage_> glebihan: thanks again for helping. Off to continue testing now
[22:49] <guest1> sumpter: eject -t
[22:49] <glebihan> Forage_, you're welcome. Have fun !
[22:50] <sumpter> @guest1 it was my mistake. I was trying to install a game, and i thought i needed to have the correct dir but i just needed an additional file
[22:50] <SIFTU> Jonii: nothing about what?
[22:50] <murpl> xangua: My login screen looks like this: http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/screen-shot-2011-10-06-at-18.06.57-copy.jpg only I have GNOME Classic shown at the top which is what I want to use.
[22:50] <flopex> murpl: It should be under the gear, on the right from where you enter you password.
[22:51] <xangua> mmmm sorry then murpl :/
[22:51] <flopex> murpl: install this sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[22:51] <sumpter> @guest1 thanks that worked
[22:51] <murpl> flopex: I know how to click on the gear and select GNOME Classic, my question is how can I avoid having to logout, click the gear, select GNOME Classic and login again. My computer automatically logs in.
[22:51] <arsenic> hello
[22:51] <sumpter> @guest1 anyway to get it to work through the gui again?
[22:51] <guest1> sumpter: nice command really
[22:51] <murpl> flopex: I believe I already did that which is why GNOME Classic is shown in the list in the first place, right?
[22:51] <sumpter> @guest1 nvm it works again
[22:51] <murpl> xangua: No problem, thanks.
[22:51] <arsenic> I have an issue with my tv tuner card-
[22:51] <guest1> sumpter: via nautilus
[22:51] <guest1> ?
[22:52] <sumpter> @guest1 idk it works now though
[22:52] <xangua> murpl: by automaticaly you mean to boot and enter inmediatly without enter a password¿¿
[22:52] <murpl> xangua: Yes, I hit the power button and after about 30 seconds, the computer is ready for action.
[22:53] <arsenic> can u read me? :S
[22:53] <xangua> murpl: in http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html says that for gnome shell automatic login:
[22:53] <xangua> sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-shell
[22:53] <xangua> try to replace "gnome-shell" with: "gnome-session-fallback"
[22:53] <murpl> xangua: I don't need any security, I don't need to have to type a password every time I turn on the computer. I really appreciate this feature, but the problem now is that I actually have to logout and login again to be able to change to GNOME Classic.
[22:54] <murpl> xangua: Thanks a lot, I believe I have actually read that article already, but I'll give it another look.
[22:54] <NiLoSP> Hi all
[22:54] <arsenic> How can I install my Genius tvgo a11mce on ubuntu 10.10?
[22:54] <NiLoSP> how do reset the password for the IRC?
[22:55] <murpl> xangua: That looks like it's exactly what I was looking for, I really hope it works this time!
[22:56] <zykotick9> NiLoSP, try asking in #freenode
[22:56] <arsenic> :/
[22:56] <bobweaver> NiLoSP:  /msg nickserv password help   (I think )
[22:56] <arsenic> well...
[22:56] <arsenic> I'll keep asking
[22:57] <tdowg1> arsenic: http://www.geniusnet.com/wSite/ct?xItem=492&ctNode=86&mp=1
[22:58] <arsenic> tdowg1, I see... so that card is not working on linux yet?
[22:58] <edwin> c
[22:58] <edwin> d
[22:58] <edwin> f
[22:58] <edwin> f
[22:59] <FloodBot1> edwin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:59] <NiLoSP> bobweaver, nopssss
[22:59] <tdowg1> arsenic: well, idk... im perusing their site now... what have you found out thus far about the card?  what do you know that i probably dont know (which is totally nothing btw)?
[22:59] <gebbione> bekks: i managed to reach further down in the install up to the computer name and user set up but then it went in error again ... should i go for a previous version of ubuntu or try other options?
[23:00] <terrylm> Hi
[23:00] <bobweaver> Hi there I am makeing a .deb file for the b43 and b43 legacy drivers and firmware. this is the 1st time that I have made a .deb package. I want to store the firmware in the packge but how to call  for the firmware to be moved to /lib/firmware  in the script   if the .fw files are in the .deb package ?
[23:00] <tdowg1> arsenic: nothing is coming up atm that I can see.  for the TVGo A12, they have OS Support as all Windows crap.  I might email them and see if they have support for the card, and if not, if and when they expect to put out some drivers?
[23:01] <SIFTU> gebbione: is it overclocked?
[23:01] <arsenic> tdowg1, when I do a lspci command on a terminal I get that:
[23:01] <arsenic> 00:09.0 Multimedia controller: Device 9131:7130 (rev 01
[23:01] <gebbione> SIFTU: no ... i just loaded optimised settings in bios but no playing with the clock
[23:02] <SIFTU> gebbione: ok, passed memtest etc?
[23:02] <gebbione> yea i just got a new hardisk replaced
[23:02] <markus> Hey all,
[23:02] <tdowg1> arsenic: so your system def sees it.  but my guess is that it doesn't know what to do with it?  im not sure i def dont have experience with this.
[23:02] <gebbione> memory should not be a problem
[23:02] <markus> anyone know how to use the Xubuntu VPN client to connect to an existing hamachi network?
[23:02] <tdowg1> arsenic: something I might try as a last ditch effort would to be to boot up the latest knoppix live cd... knoppix seems to do some pretty badd azz things that a regular default ubuntu 10.10 probably wont do.  so you can see if you can do aynthing using the knoppix os?
[23:03] <blz> arsenic, have you found any linux drivers for your card?
[23:03] <bekks> markus: as far as i know, you must be using the hamachi client.
[23:03] <arsenic> blz no...
[23:03] <markus> bekks: thnx, I am currently using Haguichi because hamachi-gui won install, does hamachi-gui have a chat instance?
[23:04] <arsenic> just with modconf
[23:04] <zykotick9> arsenic, just an FYI - but Debian doesn't support that device (perhaps Ubuntu does?) [9131:7130] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in squeeze or in sid
[23:04] <blz> arsenic, then it's not going to run under linux
[23:04] <SIFTU> gebbione: usually hang like that suggests hardware, but not always
[23:04] <bekks> markus: I am not using hamachi on my own, but I know i needs his own client to connect to.
[23:04] <terrylm> Ubuntu, 10.04, server: spamassassin: changed /etc/spamassassin/local.cf; requiered_score, restarted it, but no effect, still set to 6.31.
[23:04] <terrylm> Any idea where this is set at?
[23:04] <markus> bekks: as in it is impossible to use anything else? [a]
[23:05] <bekks> markus: Yes.
[23:05] <markus> bekks: righty, thnx!
[23:05] <gebbione> SIFTU: those guys at the store run all tests and returned a hardrive to crucial because of the hardware problems
[23:06] <SIFTU> gebbione: yeah I meant RAM.. just because its an easy test
[23:06] <arsenic> well look at this...
[23:06] <arsenic> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1378994&page=6
[23:07] <blz> arsenic, what am i supposed to be seeing?  That's not your card, is it?
[23:07] <tdowg1> arsenic: ya what significance does this have?  not even same model or close to it.
[23:07] <arsenic> there is also a web with my card working
[23:08] <zykotick9> arsenic, you said "lspci" but is this a USB device?
[23:08] <bekks> lsusv
[23:08] <bekks> lsusb even.
[23:08] <blz> arsenic, there's also a web with your card working?
[23:08] <blz> Could you reprhase that?
[23:08] <zykotick9> arsenic, if it's USB forget what i said about Debian support.  Good luck.
[23:08] <arsenic> http://test.ubuntu-es.org/node/70965 blz
[23:09] <blz> I don't speak spanish, arsenic
[23:09] <arsenic> zykotick9, it's pci
[23:09] <arsenic> blz ok
[23:09] <blind> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 11.11 on my netbook and it keeps dropping the wireless.. like ALL the time. I did not have this issue in 10.10, or linuxmint11 - what can I do about it?
[23:09] <gebbione> SIFTU: what is the best alternative other than trying windows at this point?
[23:09] <tash> hmm, this may not be the right place to ask, but I see /dev/drbd0 on a redhat box I just got tasked with taking over.  I didn't know if it is a specific redhat question, hence posting here b/c I am mainly an Ubuntu guy.  What is drbd0? I'm used to /dev/sda1, etc.
[23:09] <bobweaver> I guess the real question is can I have the script call to the .fw to mv them to /lib/firmware/ well the .deb is still there.    kinda confusing sorry.  I will sart over again     1) build script that installed b43 ect 2) add script to build folder with icon and .desktop and test.txt 3) make tar 4) put tar in folder 5) run db_make 6 ) get rid of old tar and go into new debian folder and work on config and what not rules beeing the most important.
[23:09] <bobweaver>    this is the part that I am confused about. if the firmare is in the package can I tell it under rulles to put in /lib/firmware/ or   do I make so it makes new folder that then script (.desktop) then calles to that folder and then mvs all the stuff. I guess I have never had a .deb package that works that way or that I have seen.  so I guess the real question is how to get the firmware files to the /lib/firmware/ for the end user. thanks so much
[23:09] <bobweaver>  for your time and reading this :>)
[23:09] <FloodBot1> bobweaver: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <blz> arsenic, the bottom line doen't change though.  If you don't have drivers, you can't use the card
[23:10] <mcphail> Good evening. Is there any way to set the default file dialog size so it fits the screen on my netbook?
[23:11] <guest1> terrylm: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mailfilter-guide.xml#doc_chap10
[23:11] <tdowg1> blz: for what its worth : http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftest.ubuntu-es.org%2Fnode%2F70965
[23:11] <blz> tdowg1, the point remains the same though =/
[23:11] <tdowg1> ya
[23:11] <terrylm> guest1: Thank you.
[23:12] <bekks> gebbione: Did you try the nosmp option?
[23:12] <bekks> Did you actually check your memory?
[23:12] <gebbione> bekks: i did ...
[23:12] <gebbione> bekks: fully memtested
[23:12] <guest1> terrylm: :)
[23:12] <arsenic> tdowg1, and I have tv time, but it closes before starting...
[23:13] <blind> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 11.11 on my netbook and it keeps dropping the wireless.. like ALL the time. I did not have this issue in 10.10, or linuxmint11 - what can I do about it?
[23:13] <gebbione> bekks: nosmp reached further in the install but eventually failed again
[23:14] <bekks> blind: Show us a lsb_release -a please, along with the output of dmesg in a nopaste please.
[23:15] <tdowg1> arsenic: ya idk what to tell you buddy.  i would just try knoppix live cd.  if not, there's a bunch of live linux operating systems that specialize in being media center pc's  / home theater pc's.  you might try one of them.  but it might not matter in any case--like what blz said: youll need drivers of some sort to get that particular card to work.
[23:15] <tdowg1> arsenic: oh ya, and email the company.  bug them.
[23:16] <tdowg1> arsenic: you bought they card, they owe you that much.
[23:16] <arsenic> tdowg1, yeah, I will
[23:16] <arsenic> thanks
[23:16] <mr_daniel> Running Ubuntu Server 11.10. I just installed 'dovecot-common' and 'dovecot-imapd'. But where is the tool 'dovecotpw'??? I used in previoud Ubuntu Server versions to easily create accounts for IMAP-clients, but I can't find the tool anymore.
[23:16] <blind> http://pastebin.com/UFXvj4EA - my lsb_release -a  and dmesg
[23:17] <Forage_> glebihan: there's still some more stuff fixed. Selecting an alternative shell at the login screen has no effect, the defaul unity will always be loaded
[23:17] <Forage_> glebihan: any idea where that is being forced?
[23:17] <mcphail> With regards to launchpad bug 774254, does anyone have a way to change the default size of the file dialog to fit notebook screens without resorting to unity2d?
[23:17] <arsenic> tdowg1, that is working on tuquito linux
[23:17] <mr_daniel> just found the solution: 'postadm pw' replaces dovecotpw http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-11.10/ubuntu-main-amd64/dovecot-common_2.0.13-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb.html
[23:17] <go8765> Hello. Can anybody please help me with LO-impress? I have in one slide many essects and have 1 effect(moving) that dоnt work. How I can solve this ?
[23:18] <Offlein> excellent daniel
[23:18] <arsenic> but I'll try knopixx
[23:18] <bekks> blind: maybe you should think of rebooting your box ;)
[23:19] <JWFoxJr> ubuntu 11.10 x64, vpnc, resolvconf, network-manager-vpnc, network-manager-vpnc-gnome - can't connect to vpn with all correct settings either with applet or CLI - just hangs and no tun interface - any ideas?
[23:19] <blind> bekks: I have.. it doesn't help... Each time it disconnects, I have to actually turn the wireless off and then on before it will connect again
[23:19] <bekks> blind: You havent, as can be seen in dmesg.
[23:20] <bekks> 222300 seconds doesnt look a reboot in the near past.
[23:20] <blind> I rebooted like 3 or 4 days ago
[23:20]  * blind does the math
[23:20] <blind> yeah
[23:20] <blind> 222300 seconds is 2.5 days..
[23:20] <n0yd> Just curious how much space does a stock install of 11.10 take?
[23:21] <bekks> blind: Which is too long to see the whole kernel ring buffer :)
[23:21] <arsenic> thanks to u for tring to help me!!!
[23:22] <blind> bekks: alright, I'll reboot now... if it persists, should I come back the first time it disconnects?
[23:22] <bekks> blind: Yes.
[23:22] <blind> k. thanks.
[23:23] <l_r> I need a scripting-like language which allows me to quickly associate a very simple GUI with buttons to unix commands. This language must also have a compiler allowing me to obtain  executable code (for either windows or linux). Do you have any ideas?
[23:23] <EvilResistance> l_r:  dont expect anything that will compile executable sfor both windows or linux
[23:23] <EvilResistance> l_r:  unless you use Java or something
[23:24] <jasox> l_r why don't you ask on #ubuntu-devel
[23:24] <codeshah> if mysqld_safe is running how do I stop it?
[23:24] <mcphail> l_r: Qt?
[23:25] <l_r> EvilResistance, for windows, is there anything? it must be simpler than java or c++. the best would if it could compile anything in a bash script
[23:25] <EvilResistance> l_r:  bash doesnt work on winodws
[23:25] <EvilResistance> l_r:  bash != BAT(ch)/DOS
[23:25] <bekks> bash scripts arent compiled at all.
[23:25] <EvilResistance> mhm
[23:26] <EvilResistance> l_r:  there's really nothing out there that would fit what you want.
[23:26] <JWFoxJr> EvilResistance: what are you talking about - bash is available Windows
[23:26] <EvilResistance> l_r:  short of a cross-platform coding language like java
[23:26] <EvilResistance> JWFoxJr:  not ootb
[23:26] <bekks> and yes, shell scripts are pretty much the same as batch scripts under DOS.
[23:26] <Toastdude> Okay, I'm REALLY new to Ubuntu... Where is the best place to learn linux terminal commands?
[23:26] <jizzy> Im curious , I seen a gd questin on the grub mailing list. When grub mounts the root partition to get to the kernel does it remount it again thru fstab after the kernel is loaded so linux can start all the services etc?
[23:26] <Toastdude> Hi lwq1996
[23:26] <lwq1996> hi toast
[23:27] <JWFoxJr> EvilResistance: well not ootb, but it is available - just install a copy of msys...
[23:27] <go8765> !command
[23:27] <lwq1996> anyone here that can help toastdude he needs help with the terminal
[23:27] <Guest28706> My Unity Launcher isn't working for some reason. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878985
[23:27] <bekks> Toastdude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:28] <go8765> Toastdude, may be https://help.ubuntu.com
[23:28] <lwq1996> thanks bekks
[23:28] <pooltable> how to listen to a radio stream ?
[23:29] <Rya_n> Can someone check out my thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878985
[23:29] <Toastdude> Thanks go8765
[23:30] <flopex> Rya_n: have you tried uninstalling ccsm?
[23:31] <Rya_n> how do I do that?
[23:31] <flopex> Rya_n: sudo apt-get remove ccsm
[23:31] <Rya_n> gonna try and reboot, brb.
[23:31] <go8765> anybody have problems with libreoffice-impress effects?
[23:34] <venik212> why is the windows movement so jerky and weird in Unity (64 bit, 11.10, Nvidia latest FX570 driver)
[23:34] <flopex> venik212: explain "jerky and weird"
[23:34] <__name__> can i found out which gcc flags the ubuntu packages are built with? (x86_64)
[23:35] <mcphail> With regards to launchpad bug 774254, does anyone have a way to change the default size of the file dialog to fit notebook screens without resorting to unity2d?
[23:35] <venik212> Flopex-- when I grab a window to move it on the screen, there is a delay, as if the window is stuck to the screen, and only then it moves.... VERY annoying
[23:36] <CharminTheMoose> I'm running fbpanel with aewm and fbpanel refuses to hide/unhide windows when clicking them from the taskbar, but right-clicking and selecting iconify/raise works. What's up with this behaviour?
[23:38] <javier_faj> Hi! Is something very weird. In ubuntu 11.10 (also 11.04) if you connect with network manager every program works, but if you are using wicd, empathy or evolution won't recognize there is internet, so they won't connect. Someone knows how yo fix this? (wicd works much better for me) thanks!
[23:38] <venik212> from the various forums I learned that many people have this problem in Unity, but no solution seems to be available..
[23:39] <Tausen> Hey guys! I have a serious problem with my Ubuntu 11.04 - whenever I plug in a network cable or connect to a wireless network, a kworker thread uses 100% of my CPU.
[23:39] <Tausen> Details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878993
[23:39] <Tausen> Any advice?
[23:40] <Rya_n> Uninstalling CCSM didn't work.
[23:40] <Rya_n> I even reinstalled Unity, didn't work.
[23:43] <pooltable> how to fix missing plug in GStreamer????
[23:43] <venik212> Am I the only one here with this problem?
[23:44] <Rya_n> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878985
[23:46] <_Rod2k> Good night guys
[23:49] <thcipriani> little help - I just installed a ton of updates, restarted and now, after I login to ubuntu 11.10 I just get my wallpaper and nothing else
[23:49] <thcipriani> I did the ctrl+alt+f1 and started irssi to get here
[23:50] <yosefu> hi
[23:50] <thcipriani> is there a restart unity command?
[23:51] <thcipriani> I'd google, but I'm googless in my current state
[23:51] <leo> hello guys
[23:51] <_Rod2k> I'm trying to get my cellphone connected with my machine so it can access the bluetooth internet I have already set up. I need some tips on the Linux Ubuntu side. Anyone?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> thcipriani: "unity --replace" or if you want to restart unity and reset all unity and compiz settings to their defaults, "unity --reset".
[23:52] <leo> is there any way to install all multimedia codecs available? Im using ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[23:53] <_Rod2k> I wish somebody could bring up some apps at least or a good idea :(
[23:54] <pooltable> help how to listen to on line radio ???
[23:54] <yosefu> I have no sound in 11.10 (though i had it before) and no script or guide in the internet could help me... anyone has the paciencie? :)
[23:54] <apwbdjp> _Rod2k, do you have a bluetooth in your machine, first?
[23:54] <_Rod2k> pooltable You can try Last.fm-compatible-apps. It's not that hard, just Google it.
[23:55] <_Rod2k> apwbdjp I already have a USB-dongle set up and running. My cellphone is Nokia 5233
[23:56] <apwbdjp> yosefu, happened to me with 11.04, after I reinstalled the alsa base, and stuffs. Had no choice but to re-install the system, since I found no way to get it back.
[23:56] <apwbdjp> _Rod2k, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup
[23:57] <apwbdjp> _Rod2k, if what you want is use your phone as a modem, then this is what you need.
[23:57] <Guest54027>   dedicated to all the many many love myself more thank you
[23:57] <Guest54027> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogurFMKb8lM&feature=related
[23:58] <yosefu> apwbdjp, that's a cruel solution... is there no way to uninstall all sound packages so i can install sound from scratch?
[23:59] <terrylm> guest1: I found where the spamassassin config was being overridden: /etc/amavis/conf.d/20-debian_defaults
[23:59] <_Rod2k> apwbdjp Have you tried it before?