[00:58] <govatent> hey guys. is anyone online? 
[00:58] <govatent> I want to say, the linux cafe in miami is SUPER GREAT!!!!!
[00:59] <govatent> Cloric speaking: Of course it is =)
[04:57] <chloric> evening!
[05:03] <maxolasersquad_h> Evening dude
[05:14] <chloric> Hey david
[05:14] <chloric> Alan and I were at the Linux Cafe today
[05:14] <chloric> we spent 5 hours straight before we realized it was late
[05:16] <govatent> hey chloric !
[05:16] <govatent> I have not seen you in forever! 
[05:16] <govatent> I just got home. drive took forever.
[05:23] <chloric> ah snap, govatent is here =/
[05:23] <govatent> :P
[05:23] <govatent> I am starting to rave about the cafe online
[05:27] <govatent> hey bluebomber 
[05:28] <bluebomber> Hey, govatent 
[05:28] <bluebomber> What's up?
[05:28] <govatent> whats up
[05:28] <govatent> bluebomber: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys9fNqQr3L4
[05:28] <maxolasersquad_h> So what is the Linux Cafe?
[05:28] <bluebomber> No friggin' way!
[05:29] <bluebomber> Also, everyone, in case you haven't been keeping on top of things: http://www.americancensorship.org/
[05:29] <govatent> These people opened up a small cafe aimed at teaching people about linux while being a cafe 
[05:29] <govatent> it has more linux swag than you can think of 
[05:30] <govatent> computers running every distro known to mankind 
[05:30] <govatent> android pos, 2 google tvs 
[05:30] <govatent> a very nice roomy space 
[05:30] <govatent> we are going to help the owners setup installfest and linux meetups once a month or more. 
[05:31] <govatent> the owners are very cool 
[05:31] <govatent> bluebomber, thanks for that link 
[05:31] <maxolasersquad_h> bluebomber: ++
[05:32] <govatent> lol i forgot about the ++
[05:32] <govatent> maxolasersquad_h, you should check it out once we get our meetings going 
[05:32] <govatent> give you and the family a reason to visit miami :)
[05:33] <bluebomber> I want to see it, too!
[05:33] <govatent> bluebomber, i love how angry birds did a promotion for the candy 
[05:33] <bluebomber> Sounds like a neat idea.
[05:33] <bluebomber> Yeah, I enjoyed the video. Thanks.
[05:34] <govatent> i really wish i would have gotten that new version of the candy 
[05:34] <govatent> the angry birds really sold it
[05:34] <govatent> i gotta start promoting the cafe so people know about it. 
[05:35] <govatent> My first step is to have a learn what linux day event thing 
[05:35] <bluebomber> I came in near the end of this conversation; is this cafe open yet?
[05:36] <govatent> yup
[05:36] <bluebomber> Sweet!
[05:36] <govatent> its amazing 
[05:36] <bluebomber> Website?
[05:36] <govatent> i want to help the owners 
[05:36] <govatent> yea one second ill get link
[05:36] <bluebomber> Oh! You're not an owner or a manager of it, either?!
[05:36] <bluebomber> (OTHER PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT GNU/LINUX?!)
[05:36] <bluebomber> :P
[05:37] <govatent> http://planetlinuxcaffe.com/
[05:37] <govatent> the owner is a very deep *nix lover 
[05:38] <maxolasersquad_h> .swf --
[05:38] <bluebomber> Wow. Creative menu item names.
[05:39] <bluebomber> :)
[05:39] <govatent> lol
[05:39] <govatent> give them some love 
[05:39] <bluebomber> I would if I could. They don't have a store link.
[05:40] <bluebomber> By the way, O'Reilly gave me a free ebook today for emailing them. They're a pretty classy outfit, speaking of giving love to companies.
[05:40] <maxolasersquad_h> I purchase all my tech books from O'Reilly.
[05:41] <bluebomber> Ditto. And up until now they've been physical. O'Reilly's web store lets you register your physical books and upgrade to eBooks at a deep discount. Right now it only costs $5.
[05:41] <maxolasersquad_h> You should tell them to build their website on open technologies.
[05:41] <bluebomber> Upgrade to DRM-free eBooks in 5+ formats*
[05:41] <maxolasersquad_h> Yeah, I only by DRM free e-books now for my tech stuffs.
[05:42] <bluebomber> maxh: Linux cafe or O'Reilly?
[05:42] <maxolasersquad_h> Linux Cafe
[05:42] <govatent> lol
[05:43] <bluebomber> Yeah, and the kicker is that it appears that only the first page is flash...
[05:43] <bluebomber> :-/
[05:44] <bluebomber> Maybe you can show your love by designing them a better website in X/HTML5, govatent. You'd only need about ten minutes.
[05:44] <govatent> if i knew how to code 
[05:44] <govatent> i would do it
[05:45] <bluebomber> You mean HTML isn't included among the 1042 languages you know?
[05:45] <govatent> lol
[05:45] <bluebomber> Would this kind of project be a suitable subject for a codejam?
[05:45] <maxolasersquad_h> govatent: Just use Microsoft Visual Studio dude.
[05:46] <bluebomber> I've never been to one of those.
[05:46] <bluebomber> lol@ maxh 
[05:46] <maxolasersquad_h> If you could just get the image he is using (or just use a screenshot, it would be pretty easy to replace in HTML.
[05:47] <bluebomber> "Yeah, hey, Linux dudes, get away from proprietary stuff. Use Microsoft software instead."
[05:47] <govatent> :P
[05:47] <bluebomber> I'm pretty proficient in HTML, but not the HTML5-specific additions.
[05:47] <bluebomber> I'm eager to learn them, though.
[05:47] <maxolasersquad_h> Lots of it is pretty simple, the HTML part of HTML5 stuffs.
[05:47] <bluebomber> Also, I'll leave this here: http://mnachtig.blog.usf.edu/?p=306
[05:48] <maxolasersquad_h> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/ is a good starting place.
[05:48] <govatent> bluebomber, sweet!
[05:48] <bluebomber> I think I'm more excited about CSS3 than X/HTML5, to be honest.
[05:48] <bluebomber> But that may just be the designer in me speaking.
[05:49] <govatent> oh i went to a raving club microsoft event last night on south beach. omg..that was the saddest event i have ever been to. 
[05:49] <maxolasersquad_h> There's some cool stuff like <input type="email">
[05:50] <maxolasersquad_h> Which is dead simple, but brings lots of love to people on mobile devices.
[05:51] <bluebomber> maxh: I....... see...... ugggggggh, that just reeks of custom tag nonsense.
[05:51] <maxolasersquad_h> And datalists make autocompletion easy.  Though some cool stuff like that still isn't getting any support.
[05:51] <bluebomber> BUT, I'm not going to form a judgment just yet.
[05:51] <bluebomber> I need to learn more about all the additions.
[05:51] <maxolasersquad_h> It's not a custom tag, it's a standard input type that hints to the browser to act accordingly, saving one from all sorts of Javascript ugliness.
[05:52] <bluebomber> It isn't a custom tag, but that example, along with many of the frequently touted new element types, remind me of them.
[05:52] <bluebomber> Nevertheless, that slideshow was pretty amazing.
[05:53] <bluebomber> Well, whoa.
[05:53] <maxolasersquad_h> The real fun is in the new Javascript and client-side abilities.
[05:53] <bluebomber> Wait, I guess I was assuming that was all HTML5.
[05:53] <govatent> guys, its been a long day. i am going to pass out 
[05:54] <bluebomber> That still has a bunch of Javascript. BTW, why do we not call it ECMAscript?
[05:54] <govatent> ill catch up with everyone later
[05:54] <maxolasersquad_h> govatent: About to do the same when I get done reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Python
[05:54] <bluebomber> G'night gov'nah, err, govatent.
[05:54] <bluebomber> :)
[05:54] <govatent> lol. night everyone 
[05:54] <govatent> have fun maxolasersquad_h :)
[05:57] <maxolasersquad_h> A'ight, I'm off to bed too.  Y'alls take it easy.
[15:15] <raubvogel> If i have a local user in my linux box, how do I make it belong to a group defined in ldap?