[00:00] <beardygnome> do you zip straight to the server, or do you zip locally then copy across?
[00:00] <msknight> It doesn't respond to the usual ... smb://username:password@server/share
[00:00] <jtreminio> Hello all! I'm trying to boot up xubuntu live usb, but it's stuck at the terminal without getting into the gui. what do I type to get into the liveusb gui?
[00:01] <beardygnome> jtreminio: try startx
[00:01] <jtreminio> beardygnome, no screens found
[00:01] <well_laid_lawn> there won't be a xinitrc file set up so it will go to twm
[00:01] <beardygnome> msknight: zip might not support remote shares....
[00:02] <beardygnome> do you have room to zip locally first?
[00:02] <beardygnome> and do you have ssh access to the server?
[00:03] <msknight> yes. However, cp <file> smb://username:password@server/location/filename  ... returns, "cannor create regular file"
[00:03] <well_laid_lawn> jtreminio: did you check the iso?
[00:03] <jtreminio> well_laid_lawn, no I didn't ...
[00:04] <well_laid_lawn> jtreminio: guess what I'm going to suggest ;)
[00:04] <beardygnome> if you have ssh access, you can use scp to copy files:
[00:04] <beardygnome> scp path/to/file user@server/path/to/copy/to
[00:05] <well_laid_lawn> if there are no windows comps nfs would be far easier
[00:05] <well_laid_lawn> than smb
[00:05] <msknight> nfs is read only, isn't it?
[00:05] <well_laid_lawn> no
[00:05] <well_laid_lawn> !nfs
[00:05] <beardygnome> you can also set up password-less ssh keys to allow automatic authentication
[00:06] <jtreminio> well_laid_lawn, just did md5sum, same as on website
[00:06] <msknight> This is getting messy.  I'll take these forward, but there remains an underlying problem with uploading via the SMB mount.
[00:07] <jtreminio> but let's see, google seems to have some answers
[00:07] <beardygnome> you could try using sshfs to mount the share
[00:07] <well_laid_lawn> jtreminio: the default for the live cd is to start the gui so something went wrong with how you made the usb
[00:07] <msknight> I think that NFS publication on the Unix side is my problem.
[00:10] <jtreminio> well_laid_lawn, I think i may have taken the thumbdrive out without ejecting first. let's try it again
[00:10] <msknight> Where should I report the problem with the SMB upload through the mount plese?
[00:12] <well_laid_lawn> what os is the server running?
[00:12] <beardygnome> you can use ubuntu-bug to report bugs against packages
[00:12] <msknight> Open Indiana 151a Sept 2011.
[00:13] <well_laid_lawn> msknight: is that an operating system? never heard of it
[00:13] <well_laid_lawn> but the issue is on the server
[00:13] <msknight> Yes - a fork of Open Solaris 10 after Oracle took over Sun and took Express 11 back to closed source (effectively)
[00:14] <well_laid_lawn> that's where you go to report it then
[00:14]  * jtreminio crosses his fingers
[00:14] <msknight> It worked on Ubuntu versions. I moved to Xubuntu because of Unity, and the removal of Gnome in the package.
[00:15] <msknight> But I don't see any reason why it should work on an Ubuntu build and not Xubuntu.
[00:16] <jtreminio> nope, formatted drive, redid it with unetboot and still goes to prompt. Wonder if ubuntu will do it
[00:16] <jtreminio> Will ubuntu run well on a netbook with 2gb ram?
[00:17] <beardygnome> jtreminio: what graphics are you using?
[00:18] <jtreminio> Graphics & chipset: NVIDIA ION (GeForce 9400M)
[00:19] <jtreminio> wait no that's not right
[00:19] <jtreminio> Graphics & chipset: Intel US15W / GMA 500 graphics
[00:20] <beardygnome> that shouldn't be causing you any problems then
[00:20] <jtreminio> I tried going with elementaryos first and it couldn't detect my graphics card :(
[00:24] <msknight> Thanks folks. Your help was very much appreciated. I think I'm a few more steps forward.
[00:25] <beardygnome> msknight: np - good luck :-)
[03:07] <Bixente> Does anyone want Desktop effect on Xubuntu
[03:07] <Bixente> ?
[03:35] <Bukowskii> what is the proper way to make a live usb stick, i tried unetbootin but when i boot my computer won't go passed the first screen
[03:39] <holstein> Bukowskii: that works for me...
[03:39] <holstein> Bukowskii: are you sure its not graphics card related?
[03:40] <Bukowskii> i had ubuntu installed on the same computer a year ago with no issues
[03:41] <Bukowskii> its a netbook, with an atom cpu and sintegrated graphics
[03:41] <w30> Bukowskii, I had success with usb-creater
[03:42] <jmcantrell> i really want to like xubuntu, but i'm having some issues. how do i get it to remember my ssh key passwords like gnome?
[03:43] <holstein> jmcantrell: that seemed to 'just work' for me... but i stopped doing passwords recently
[03:43] <holstein> Bukowskii: i format those sticks each time
[03:43] <holstein> i would try a fresh format
[03:43] <holstein> Bixente: i have compiz
[03:43] <holstein> works great :)
[03:44] <jmcantrell> how do i use dropbox?
[03:44] <w30> Bukowskii, it also gives you 4 gig of persistent storage for printer, network,etc. settings
[03:44] <Bukowskii> will a windows style quick format to fat32 work?
[03:44] <madnick> jmcantrell: please elaborate
[03:45] <madnick> Dropbox has an installer
[03:45] <holstein> jmcantrell: i installed it, and i found a dropbox-thunar package
[03:45] <jmcantrell> how do i install dropbox in xubuntu? there's just a nautilus-dropbox package, but i don't want nautilus
[03:45] <jmcantrell> where's the dropbox-thunar package?
[03:46] <madnick> http://softwarebakery.com/maato/files/thunar-dropbox/thunar-dropbox-0.2.0.tar.bz2
[03:46] <zenrox> jmcantrell, i just installed nautilus
[03:46] <holstein> i found a .deb from here http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/8864/thunar-dropbox-dropbox-contextmenu-items-in-thunar/
[03:46] <holstein> Bukowskii: i would try it
[03:47] <jmcantrell> is there any way to get the file emblems for dropbox like in nautilus?
[03:51] <holstein> jmcantrell: AFAIK, no in thunar
[03:51] <holstein> but, you can just have nautilus like zenrox suggests
[03:55] <jmcantrell> does xfce use gtk3?
[03:56] <madnick> If you mean that you can use GTK3 apps, yes, and 11.10 has an GTK+-3 theme
[03:57] <jmcantrell> what are the various apps in xfce built with?
[04:18] <holstein> jmcantrell: i am enjoying my transition to XFCE so far... ive been in about a week or so
[04:18] <holstein> to describe all the various apps would take quite some time
[04:22] <Unit193> Some of the Xfce goodies are installed though, but not all (http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/start)
[05:10] <jmcantrell> i can't seem to figure out how to get xfce to remember my ssh keys
[05:12] <holstein> jmcantrell: the passwords you mean?
[05:12] <holstein> when i look back at it, i think its a bit odd that gnome remembered them
[05:13] <holstein> but, let me look around a bit
[05:13] <holstein> i mean, you could probably install the gnome-session-manager or whatever it is/was
[05:43] <jmcantrell> if i'm using an encrypted home directory, what's the danger in using passwordless ssh keys?
[05:44] <holstein> i read something about password ssh keys...
[05:45] <holstein> personally, i have a strict, 'whatever makes you personally feel safe' security policy
[05:46] <holstein> but, the main point of keys is to not have passwords going back and forth
[05:47] <jmcantrell> holstein: right, that's why you use pubkey auth
[05:48] <jmcantrell> but the private key is locked with a password
[05:48] <holstein> i would say, the good thing about a password ssh key is, the keys get compromised, and maybe you have a little more time to change keys and secure things again
[05:49] <jmcantrell> yeah
[06:19] <Bukowskii> hmmm tried fresh formatted usb key and different linux live programs and still gets stuck ate first screen
[06:20] <Bukowskii> i think maybe i'll have to burn a live cd, does xubuntu live cd support usb cdroms?
[06:24] <TVasEyes> hi, first time user, looking for root password for freebie xubuntu 11.10 (from Linux Magazine DVD)
[06:27] <ball> TVasEyes: for Xubuntu you shouldn't need to know.
[06:27] <ball> At least, that's my understanding.
[06:28] <ball> TVasEyes: Did you boot from the DVD?
[06:28] <TVasEyes> ball: installed from dvd, was not offered option to set password, will not let me login as root.
[06:30] <ball> TVasEyes: So, don't log in as root.
[06:30] <ball> (you shouldn't need to)
[06:30] <ball> It didn't ask you root's password, or it didn't ask you your own?
[06:31] <TVasEyes> ball: have to, X server gives me lousy resolution, also want to get rid of unwanted daemons (bluetooth, etc)
[06:31] <TVasEyes> ball: created user (w password) but not for root.
[06:31] <ball> Should be able to change your screen mode without being root.
[06:32] <TVasEyes> no, display hasn't resolution on menu.
[06:32] <ball> As for the daemons, I don't know how those are configured on a Xubuntu system
[06:32] <ball> TVasEyes: Settings -> Display ?
[06:33] <TVasEyes> ball: yes, from that menu only get 640x480!!, monitor does 1280x1024 (on slackware w xfce4 desktop)
[06:34] <ball> TVasEyes: Sounds as though X.org isn't recognizing your monitor for some reason.  Was it turned on when you booted your PC?
[06:35] <TVasEyes> ball: yes
[06:35] <ball> I don't know then.  We're in the same boat: X.org hate us and won't give us a working xorgconfig program any more.
[06:36] <TVasEyes> ball: thanks anyway.  anyone else know how to log into root a/c ??
[06:36] <ball> TVasEyes: You don't log into root
[06:36] <ball> It's possible to become root, but you probably don't want to.
[06:37] <ball> That's not how Xubuntu works.
[06:37] <TVasEyes> ball: used to being admin, every installation needs tweaking & doing it via sudo is not an option -- life's too short
[06:38] <ball> TVasEyes: sudo /bin/sh ?
[06:38] <TVasEyes> ball: hmm, will try, back in a jiffy
[06:38] <ball> TVasEyes: Try not to break anything.
[06:40] <TVasEyes> ball: works, nice.  thank you v much, good 'lateral' thought.
[06:41] <ball> TVasEyes: Good luck.
[08:25] <Dreeg> Salve a tutti, ho installato l'altro ieri Xubuntu ed oggi lo sto usando.. ho notato però che all'avvio prima della schermata di logon (che ho settato come Automatico) e del caricamento di xubuntu (a volte addirittura la salta e si prolunga la presenza della schermata incriminata) mi appare una schermata tutta "colorata" a bande con colori tendenti al grigio.. tipo i disturbi della televisione o meglio del digitale terrestre xD Come risolv
[08:25] <Dreeg> o?
[08:26] <Dreeg> P.S. i driver della scheda grafica non sono attivi e non si vogliono attivare (ATI Radeon HD 1450)
[08:26] <homebrewcider> hi there, I've just started using avant window navigator. seems good so far, BUT, I can't remove the awn terminal. I want to use another terminal application and I've added that but can't remove the original, can someone help please.
[08:31] <ochosi> homebrewcider: i guess better turn to an avant-window-navigator support channel then?
[10:16] <incorrect> what version of xfce does 10.04 come with?
[10:19] <dirtycookie> hello people, a few days ago i mentioned in this channel that xubuntu doesnt automatically link usb sticks to my desktop. Some of you suggested to make the shortcut manually, and that this could be only to this memory stick. but the problem applies to all sticks that i insert. can anyone tell me y xubuntu doesnt link my usb-sticks automatically to my desktop?
[10:23] <homebrewcider> hi, does anyone know how to hide, but not remove completely the second panel?
[10:24] <knome> what do you mean by that?
[10:25] <homebrewcider> I  am experimenting with another dock thingy and I don't want the bottom panel popping up every time, but I don't want it deleted in case I need it back
[10:25] <knome> i supppose there is no such way except maybe backing up the panel config, and then deleting it
[10:26] <homebrewcider> and the panel config to backup would b where please
[10:27] <knome> i don't know
[10:31] <homebrewcider> found a solution
[10:32] <homebrewcider> turn opacity down to zero
[10:43] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: are you a member of group 'plugdev'?  use 'id' to see which groups you belong to.
[10:44] <xubuntu559> id
[10:44] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: no i dont know that group
[10:44] <dirtycookie> id
[10:45] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: is likely to be a permission thing, what do you see when you enter 'id' on yr terminal?
[10:45] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: on my local machine??
[10:46] <TVasEyes> yes (ie the machine where you use USB stick)
[10:46] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: output is as follows
[10:46] <dirtycookie> uid=1000(tux) gid=1000(tux) groups=1000(tux),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),117(lpadmin),119(admin),124(sambashare)
[10:47] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: looks good, my hunch was wrong :-(
[10:47] <dirtycookie> ok... any other hunches??
[10:49] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: can you tell more about s/ware version, etc.  I've only just started fiddling with v 11.10
[10:50] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: well, the os is freshly installed on my eeepc. i started having such problems when i edited my fstab because i wanted my onboard flash memory to be statically mounted
[10:52] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: fresh install here too, same groups, usb mount works fine; you didn't keep copy of fstab?
[10:53] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: IIRC, mount has a 'label' option which might be useful.
[10:53] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: i just added a line to fstab, what is IIRC?
[10:54] <TVasEyes> IIRC == if I recall correctly
[10:55] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: in added line - no typos and mount point exists?
[10:57] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: this is my line which mounts the flash memory
[10:57] <dirtycookie> /dev/sda1       /media/4GB_flash                          vfat    errors=remount-ro 0
[10:59] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: unsure about 'remount-ro', also line ought to have 6 fields, needs a second 0 appended to end
[11:02] <knome> shouldn't that be remount,ro
[11:03] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: haven't vfat installed, why remoun, I'd use 'user,ro'
[11:04] <knome> note that it is "errors=remount,ro"
[11:05] <TVasEyes> knome: oops, thanks
[11:07] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: didnt make any thoughts about it
[11:07] <dirtycookie> the entry
[11:08] <TVasEyes> knome: errors=remount-ro is documented in 'man mount'
[11:09] <knome> right
[11:10] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: comparable line from my fstab (on slackware system): /dev/sde1        /mnt/memory      auto        noauto,users,rw    0   0
[11:22] <dirtycookie> TVas Eyes: ok ill try your line and see what happens
[11:23] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: another oops, re-read yr "wanted my onboard flash memory to be statically mounted", so line might read:  "/dev/sda1  /media/4GB_flash  vfat  defaults 1  2", 5th and 6th fields are optional but will prevent dump and fsck from running if missing, see 'man 5 fstab'
[11:38] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: hi,... im back. i inserted my usb stick which got mounted BUT didnt show up on my desktop
[11:39] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: available in Thunar though, no?
[11:40] <dirtycookie> TVasEyes: yes it is
[11:42] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: am very new to (x)ubuntu, no idea why you don't get an icon on desktop.  shouldn't be a big problem, as long as you can access & eject.
[11:42] <dirtycookie> true but i have a small screen
[11:44] <TheSheep> dirtycookie: if you go to settings->desktop->icons, you can see the preferences for what to display on your desktop
[11:45] <TheSheep> dirtycookie: make sure you have 'removable devices' enabled there
[11:45] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: ok, I'll check this out. on both my machines I use xfce with 4 desktops, enough space to leave all sorts of apps open permanently.
[11:46] <TVasEyes> dirtycookie: sorry, 'workspaces' not desktops
[11:50] <ball> Thanks for your message earlier TVasEyes
[11:53] <TVasEyes> ball: no, thanks to you, I really started to panic/get frustrated when it wouldn't let me log in. all's well that ends well, eh?
[11:59] <dirtycookie> TheSheep: removeable drives is enabled
[12:00] <TheSheep> then no idea
[12:01] <dirtycookie> ok
[12:10] <ball> I have to go
[12:54] <goliat> Hey ive been wondering how stable is Xubuntu 11.10?
[12:57] <goliat> As how good does it hande ATI Cards and Broadcom wireless cards? I always have trouble with them.
[13:58] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to slide launchers around the top bar?  I keep having to stick spacers in there
[14:00] <craigbass1976> Or a text file I can edit instead of swearing when the mouse doesn't appear to be grabbing anything...
[14:00] <knome> did you check the panel preferences, items tab?
[14:01] <knome> (right click -> panel -> panel pref.)
[14:02] <craigbass1976> I don't have such a choice when I right click the panel that I can see
[14:02] <knome> which xubuntu version?
[14:02] <craigbass1976> lucid, xfce 4.6.1
[14:03] <knome> right
[14:03] <knome> can't remember how that works
[14:51] <jost_> hi
[15:52] <pteague_work> how do i restart the window manager? i currently have no way to move windows around or give them focus :(
[15:52] <Sysi> xfwm4 --replace
[15:55] <pteague_work> nice, thank you
[17:30] <well_laid_lawn> there's 100 ppl in the channel - I haven't seen that before !
[18:29] <rohn> hi all
[18:30] <rohn> i am new to linux and more new to xubuntu
[18:30] <rohn> i have a serious problem
[18:30] <rohn> when i start my computer
[18:30] <xrdodrx> rohn, what happens?
[18:31] <rohn> every time it shows something low grafix stuff
[18:32] <rohn> and when i take update
[18:32] <rohn> after that i can not boot into gui
[18:33] <rohn> its just boot into cli
[18:33] <rohn> :(
[18:33] <rohn> please help me
[18:34] <rohn> i have a celeron d 2.13Ghz
[18:34] <rohn> 512mb ram
[18:35] <rohn> and a msi mobo with onboard via s3 unichrome named VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)
[18:36] <rohn> xrdodrx, can you help me??
[18:37] <xrdodrx> rohn, did it ever work?
[18:38] <xrdodrx> or did this happen right after you installed it
[18:39] <rohn> in live mode it is happens also
[18:39] <rohn> but when i take update after that it gose to cli
[18:39] <rohn> i cant start gui
[18:39] <xrdodrx> hm
[18:40] <rohn> i tried startx
[18:40] <rohn> and some other command
[18:40] <rohn> which i collected from internet forums
[18:41] <xrdodrx> rohn, you're using old hardware that is not supported in the newest ubutntu
[18:41] <xrdodrx> the va driver hasn't been in ubuntu for a while
[18:41] <well_laid_lawn> that's not right
[18:41] <rohn> it says "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode" Your screen, graphics card and input device setting could not be detected
[18:41] <xrdodrx> you can try to install the xserver-xorg-video-openchrome package
[18:41] <xrdodrx> if it's not installed already
[18:42] <xrdodrx> type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
[18:42] <rohn> i will try
[18:54] <Enekk> Anyone out there who might know how to get transparency working in Guake when Xubuntu is using Compiz?
[18:54] <Enekk> Isn't that a bundle of fun
[18:55] <Sysi> I think you need to start guake after compiz
[18:55] <Sysi> script like "compiz --replace && guake" at autostart or something
[18:56] <xrdodrx> use tilda instead :3
[18:56] <Enekk> so, if Compiz is running (as it is now) I should be able to kill Guake and start it up to test your theory
[18:56] <xrdodrx> yes
[18:57] <Enekk> And you win
[18:57] <Enekk> thanks, I'll go modify the start up, that makes my life so much easier
[18:58] <Enekk> Now if I could get the Compiz Grid plugin to work correctly (works on all directions, but top right is always top) I'd be pretty much at parity with my old gnome install
[18:58] <xrdodrx> :o
[18:58] <Enekk> But that last one is a bug
[18:58] <xrdodrx> i thought that top right thing was just me lol
[18:59] <Enekk> I reported it, but no activity on the bug report yet
[18:59] <xrdodrx> link?
[18:59] <xrdodrx> i'd like to cc myself
[18:59] <Enekk> Let me dig it up
[19:00] <xrdodrx> thanks :)
[19:00] <Enekk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-plugins-main/+bug/875522
[19:01] <Enekk> I thik part of the problem is that they might not look much at the launchpad bugs
[19:05] <Thermi> http://t.co/5ySUJNHK
[19:38] <rohn> how to edit configuration file
[19:43] <knome> hmm
[19:52] <rohn> when i start my computer, every time i am getting a message
[19:53] <rohn> ubuntu running in low graphix mode
[19:54] <rohn> (EE)chrome. unknown card ids(7205|1462|7104)
[19:54] <rohn> chipset KM400|KN400
[19:55] <rohn> xrdodrx, please help me
[19:55] <rohn> and telling me to edit the config file to solve this this problem
[19:56] <rohn> please anyone help me
[20:05] <jmcantrell> does anyone use ssh with pubkeys? how do i get xfce to remember my key like gnome does?
[20:30] <w30> I use thunar as a file manager but it has no print function. Is there a way to get a print option button?
[20:33] <knome> yakeb-away, can you turn off/not use awaynicks? thanks.
[20:34] <w30> how aout printing in ristretto? Is that possible?
[20:55] <bytesoup> Hi Folks, I tried to boot a Packard Bell Desktop PC with xubuntu 11.04 live CD the other day and I just get a black screen after the splash screen. The only hardware info I can extract is CPU: AMD Athlon 64 processor 3800+ 2.4Ghz its currently running 32bit Win Vista from the windows device manager: ACPI x86 based PC, NVIDIA GEForce 6100 nForce 405 Graphics card
[21:04] <mxed> jmcantrell, cant you use gnomekeyring for that?
[21:07] <jmcantrell> mxed: i tried, but the onboard keyboard pops up every time i login
[21:08] <mxed> uninstalll the onboard keayboard then ?
[21:31] <policecopfed> ohai
[21:31] <policecopfed> i have a really basic problem;
[21:31] <policecopfed> in the workspace switcher, can i change the contrast between active and inactive windows?
[21:32] <knome> if you modify the gtk theme
[22:36] <jmcantrell> does xubuntu alternate installer let you do full disk encryption?
[22:38] <olbi> jmcantrell: full disk, you mean all partitions?
[22:38] <jmcantrell> olbi: yes. encrypted LVM
[22:40] <olbi> I dont check this but /home is encrypted for  install
[22:40] <olbi> from* install
[22:41] <olbi> try in virtualbox
[22:51] <jmcantrell> does xubuntu have the startup disk creator?
[22:52] <Sysi> for usb? yes
[22:56] <schreber> Can someone explain why mounted drives would not show up in nautilus? If I umount them they show up but re-mount them and close nautilus they disappear again (again they're still accessible via the "Go" feature in nautilus).
[22:57] <schreber> replace nautilus with Thunar
[23:12] <tsaavik> anyone know how to increase/decrease the volume via commandline in xubuntu. aumix can't access a mixer device :(
[23:12]  * tsaavik wants to map ctrl-uparrow to volup
[23:13] <tsaavik> and amixer wants an absolute # :(
[23:13] <Sysi> amixer set Master 5%+ doesn't work?
[23:14] <tsaavik> ah! you rock!
[23:19] <tsaavik> woot, fired up xbindkeys and I'm all set :D thanks Sysi
[23:21] <Sysi> xfce hotkey settings would've handled that..