[00:00] <_jam> is there a native way to seek kontact's calendar with google calendar?
[00:00] <_jam> s/seek/sync/
[00:02] <_jam> ok. wait. what. kmail is moving email between folders. at least two emails keep getting moved from the inbox to a subfolder, for no apparent reason
[00:02] <_jam> I notice these two because I've left them unread to return to for later
[00:03] <_jam> why would this possibly be happening
[00:16] <Snowhog> Kontact and Kmail 4.7.3. Everything works just fine. But, when composing a new email, typing in the To field no longer looks in my Contacts, instead, it is looking at recent addresses only. If I click on the Select button I can choose from my Contacts. Why aren't my Contacts being looked at when typing in a recipient? It used to.
[00:25] <Daskreech> _jam: There is a googledata plugin
[00:30] <Quintasan> Snowhog: That's probably a bug in KDE, I suggest you check if it was reported already, if not then please report it at http://bugs.kde.org
[00:31] <BluesKaj> !wma
[00:31] <Daskreech> !kmail
[00:42] <_jam> Daskreech: it doesn't show up on the plugins list under calendar, though I do have akonadi-kde-resource-googledata installed
[00:46] <ScottyK> How long do you think it will be until 4.7.3 will be in the official repos?
[00:50] <Daskreech> ScottyK: Depends on what you mean by official I guess
[00:50] <ScottyK> daskreech - I was looking at the news page on kubuntu.org
[00:50] <Daskreech> ScottyK: Probably a month or more
[00:52] <Daskreech> http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/178/26/ <-- _jam old article but should still work
[00:53] <_jam> Daskreech: thanks! will check this out
[00:56] <ScottyK> Daskreech - Thanks..
[00:57] <Daskreech> ScottyK: they have 4 repos that it goes through so might take a while before they publicly announce it
[01:09] <BarkingFish> Anyone still alive in here at this ungodly hour of the morning? :)
[01:10] <szal> wrong question & you know it ;)
[01:10] <BarkingFish> I need to see someone's help if there is.  I just got an email through confirming my subscription to a course to learn Korean - and I just realised something.
[01:10] <BarkingFish> I have no idea how the myxzptlk to get my PC (localised in English (British)) to type in Korean with an English Keyboard.
[01:10] <BarkingFish> Anyone got any ideas on how I can sort this please?
[01:11] <BarkingFish> I need to be able basically to form Hangul, which is multisyllabic characters built into blocks :)
[01:12] <szal> motherf....
[01:12] <BarkingFish> szal: you ok?
[01:12] <szal> I'm kind-of used to Konvi crashin already, but never had it crash while typing as of yet..
[01:12] <BarkingFish> ah
[01:12] <Guest44914> Hello! I've a problem. The starter [Alt] + [F2] doesn't start any more. How to reactivate it again?
[01:13] <szal> Guest44914: tried to restart KDE?
[01:13] <BarkingFish> szal: that'd be krunner, wouldn't it?
[01:13] <Guest44914> szal: I logged on and of again.
[01:13] <Guest44914> szal: I ment, I logged off and on again.
[01:14] <BarkingFish> so anyone else got thoughts on my typing thingy? :)
[01:15] <szal> BarkingFish: afaics, a Korean kb layout would do, plus a font that contains Hangul..  no idea about whether some other additional software is necessary, only I've read that you don't need a special input editor for Korean as for Chinese and Japanese, because the characters are assembled from a limited base set, and character assembly follows strict rules
[01:16] <BarkingFish> szal: it follows very strict rules, each character/syllable is no more than 2 lines high, and is basically 1 to 2 chars wide, it's assembled in a set order too
[01:17] <szal> though right now is about the worst time for asking Asia-related stuff, because most Asians won't be on now; you might have better luck in 10–12 hours
[01:20] <axel_> szal: A restart didn't do it either.
[01:22] <axel_> szal: How is this programm, plugin, ... called? So I can google it.
[01:23] <szal> krunner
[01:23] <axel_> szal: Thanks.
[01:48] <Stronze> im having an issue with kubuntu opening ALL folders into movie player.
[01:51] <Stronze> connection test
[01:55] <Stronze> can anyone help me with that? only thing im finind is a ubuntu 10.10 solution to right click and open as and save as but right click in kubuntu doesnt give that option
[01:56] <Stronze> finding*
[02:01] <Stronze> anyone know how to solve kubuntu-desktop from opening folders into movie player without the ability to right click and open with option?
[02:04] <Stronze> oookay now my apps in task bar where  switch between apps has gone REALLY thin
[02:07] <Daskreech> Stronze: sup?
[02:08] <Stronze> Stronze> can anyone help me with that? only thing im finind is a ubuntu 10.10 solution to right click and open as and save as but right click in kubuntu doesnt give that option
[02:08] <Daskreech> Stronze: you are getting folders not opening in Dolphin?
[02:08] <Stronze> dolphin?
[02:09] <Stronze> im using kubuntu-desktop over ubuntu
[02:09] <Daskreech> Stronze: ok nautilus then?
[02:09] <jmichaelx> then you should be using dolphin as your file manager
[02:10] <Stronze> yes dolphin
[02:10] <Stronze> never noticed that before
[02:10] <jmichaelx> in other words... dolphin is KDE's default file manager (what i meant to say)
[02:11] <Daskreech> Stronze: Might help if you explained what the setup is
[02:11] <Daskreech> are you in KDE or using Gnome with plasma desktop laid over it?
[02:11] <Stronze> i just switched from ubuntu 11.10 to kubuntu using the GUI
[02:12] <Stronze> been avoiding a fresh install
[02:12] <Daskreech> Stronze: as in you logged in to Kubuntu from the KDM?
[02:12] <Stronze> kdm? im just a normal user of linux, i only play with it when it breaks
[02:13] <Daskreech> Stronze: ha ha the login screen :)
[02:13] <Stronze> lol yes, i select kubuntu in login
[02:13] <jmichaelx> Stronze: now we KNOW you are pulling our legs!!! Linus is ALWAYS broken!!
[02:13] <jmichaelx> (just kidding)
[02:14] <jmichaelx> Linux*
[02:14] <Daskreech> Stronze: Great. ok press alt+F2 and type associations
[02:14] <Daskreech> Should open File associations
[02:15] <Corigo> 11.10 with KDE 4.7.2 when I launch gparted it shows a progress icon like it is launching, but then no UI appears
[02:15] <Daskreech> Click on the arrow next to Inode and click on directory
[02:15] <Daskreech> What's the Application Preference Order?
[02:16] <Corigo> !kdm
[02:16] <Daskreech> !info kdm
[02:17] <Daskreech> Corigo: try partitionmanager
[02:18] <Daskreech> !info partitionmanager
[02:18] <Daskreech> Stronze: or let me know if you get stucjk
[02:18] <Daskreech> Blast
[02:18] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: Linus might be constantly broken too
[02:19] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: well i had not considered that, but now that you mention it...
[02:19] <jmichaelx> :)
[02:21] <jmichaelx> perpetual kernel hacking could have that effect on even the best among us
[02:21] <Daskreech> more so dealing with kernel hackers perpetually
[02:21] <jmichaelx> especially that
[02:22] <bartman2589> Hi everyone, someone in here the other day mentioned that 11.10 was up to version 4.7.4 of KDE, can someone point me to a ppa or repository for it?
[02:26] <bartman2589> guess not huh
[02:29] <vehemoth> bartman2589: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Release_Schedule
[02:29] <vehemoth> 4.7.4 seems planned for december
[02:30] <vehemoth> can you point me to something saying it's released
[02:31] <Daskreech> bartman2589: A little hard since it doesn't exist
[02:31] <Belial`> yeah, 4.7.4 won't be out until next month.
[02:31] <Daskreech> 4.7.4 that is. I think last I heard 11.10 exists
[02:32] <Belial`> the current version in the official 11.10 repos is 4.7.2 and the ppa has 4.7.3
[02:32] <bartman2589> ok, I'm on 4.7.3 from the ppa right now
[02:32] <Belial`> you're up to date then.
[02:32] <bartman2589> ok, thanks, just wanted to make sure
[02:33] <Belial`> np
[02:35] <bartman2589> dumb question, I'm planning on putting together a new system in the next month or so built around a Phenom II 1055T (maybe even something a little bigger yet even if funds permit), and was wondering if it's worth it to move to 64 bit Kubuntu, I know there are several big problems still with 64 bit versions of linux (largely due to lack of applications for 64 bit), or not
[02:36] <Stronze> Stronze> can anyone help me with that? only thing im finind is a ubuntu 10.10 solution to right click and open as and save as but right click in kubuntu doesnt give that option
[02:36] <bartman2589> that didn't quite come out right, but I think you probably understand what I meant
[02:36] <Belial`> if you're 4gb+ then yeah, might as well move to 64bit.
[02:37] <Belial`> it's also proven faster in benchmarks vs. 32bit.
[02:37] <bartman2589> just a bit concerned about the problems I've heard with getting things like Flash and even some sound hardware working under 64bit
[02:38] <Belial`> i'm using 64bit flash 11 right now and haven't had one problem.
[02:38] <phunyguy> flash has a native 64 bit version now, as well as a third party ppa for install/updates
[02:38] <phunyguy> not to mention flash will be going away soon in favor of HTML5
[02:38] <phunyguy> open standards ftw
[02:38] <bartman2589> yeah I know they finally released a 64 bit version (god knows it took them long enough), but I've heard it's still kind of buggy
[02:38] <phunyguy> haven't had any issues with it
[02:39] <phunyguy> certainly performs better than gnash
[02:39] <phunyguy> =P
[02:39] <Belial`> performs real good here.
[02:39] <Belial`> as a matter of fact, it's even better than before.
[02:39] <bartman2589> right now I use Adobe's Flashplugin from medibuntu
[02:39] <Belial`> i use to have issues with fullscreen flash videos all the time
[02:40] <Belial`> haven't had one problem since 11.
[02:40] <bartman2589> ok, thanks
[02:42] <phunyguy> yeah I had bad performance issues with older flash / gnash
[02:43] <phunyguy> videos were really choppy and it crashed all the time
[02:43] <Belial`> i never tried gnash
[02:43] <phunyguy> dont
[02:43] <phunyguy> lol
[02:43] <bartman2589> ATI catalyst drivers working ok for most people so far on 64 bit?  The new board I'm going to get has onboard ATI graphics and I want to kind of use that board as a 'stepping stone' until I can buy a better one and a dedicated videocard (the motherboard is free with the cpu purchase so I can't complain too much)
[02:43] <Belial`> yeah, i haven't heard anything good about it performance wise, so i never bothered.
[02:44] <Belial`> i haven't used the catalyst driver in some years.
[02:44] <Belial`> it was so so about two, three years ago.
[02:46] <bartman2589> I'm just trying to 'get my ducks all in a row' before I do build that new system, If I'm going to have problems with video drivers I'll probably opt for a different board (choice of 4 different ones available free with cpu), but the one I'm looking at is the only one that has shared memory higher than 256Mb with the onboard video
[02:47] <Belial`> i'm on an i3 with integrated intel video and kwin runs great.
[02:48] <Belial`> i also have a geforce gt420 with 1gb ram, but optimus doesn't work in linux.
[02:48] <Belial`> so i'm stuck using the intel driver for now.
[02:48] <bartman2589> what's 'Optimus'?
[02:48] <Belial`> switchable graphics
[02:49] <bartman2589> oh, ok
[02:49] <Belial`> whenever an app is hardware accelerated, (flash, games, etc) it kicks on the dedicated card.
[02:49] <Belial`> otherwise it uses the integrated solution.
[02:49] <bartman2589> ah, nice feature from the sounds of it, if it works
[02:49] <Belial`> works great in windows.
[02:50] <Belial`> but i haven't really played any games recently.
[02:50] <bartman2589> but why not just use the 'dedicated' card all the time?
[02:50] <Belial`> well, some higher end laptops can switch off the integrated card in the bios.
[02:50] <Belial`> mine doesn't.
[02:51] <Daskreech> Stronze: aare you back?
[02:51] <Belial`> i'm stuck using both if i'm in windows.
[02:51] <Belial`> bartman2589: but the whole point of optimus is having performance with battery life.
[02:51] <bartman2589> Ok, I've run into a few systems that didn't like to turn off the onboard graphics, had to disable in device manager in windows
[02:52] <Belial`> when you don't need the extra power the gpu provides, it shuts down and uses the intel graphics.
[02:52] <Belial`> which saves battery.
[02:52] <Stronze> Daskreech, been here the whole time
[02:52] <bartman2589> ok, makes sense, I don't own a laptop so not a big deal for me
[02:52] <Belial`> i'm stuck with just my laptop for now.
[02:52] <Daskreech> Stronze: You timed out about a minute after I gave a solution last time :)
[02:53] <Stronze> Daskreech, thats my luck :/
[02:53] <Belial`> i was thinking about building a phenom system.
[02:53] <Daskreech> Stronze: Ok press alt+F2 and type associations
[02:53] <Daskreech> Should open File associations
[02:53] <bartman2589> I don't really have a need for a laptop yet so I stick with desktop systems
[02:53] <Belial`> but i priced a core i5 quad core system for around the same price.
[02:53] <Daskreech> Click on the arrow next to Inode and click on directory
[02:53] <Daskreech> What's the Application Preference Order?
[02:54] <bartman2589> I'm lucky enough to have a Microcenter store only a few miles away, kind of like a walk in version of Tigerdirect or NewEgg, pricing is even competitive or im many cases cheaper than Tigerdirect or NewEgg
[02:54] <bartman2589> in*
[02:55] <bartman2589> like with the Phenom II I'm looking at, it's $149.99 with choice of 4 different motherboards free with purchase, but it's in store purchase only
[02:55] <jmichaelx> bartman2589:  were the one telling me about this the other night? (like in the detroit area?)
[02:56] <bartman2589> or I can get $40 off a different motherboard
[02:56] <bartman2589> yep
[02:56] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[02:56] <Stronze> Daskreech, not seeing inode. its listing file associations(configure file associations), association (class) attachment(class), personinvolvement (class) association member (property, attachment (property)
[02:56] <bartman2589> finally got 11.10 installed and running!!!
[02:56] <bartman2589> had to turn off acpi though via kernel switch
[02:57] <bartman2589> and had to switch to a different run level and install nvidia-173 package to work with my video card
[02:58] <bartman2589> once I did that it booted right into KDE and worked
[02:58] <jmichaelx> bartman2589: glad you finally got that figured out
[02:58] <Corigo> Daskreech: Partition manager only sees 1 of my 3 drives and I see no way to mark for RAID
[02:58] <jmichaelx> straightened out8
[02:58] <jmichaelx> *
[02:58] <bartman2589> I learned a lot yesterday talking with everyone, my deepest thanks to all who tried to help me
[02:59] <jmichaelx> i have also dealt with machines that just seemed to want to defy all attempts at getting them to work in linux
[03:00] <jmichaelx> some turn out to run just fine, once you finally learn which hoops you initially need to jump through
[03:00] <bartman2589> the jumping through hoops was what was driving me nuts :)
[03:01] <bartman2589> <--- is not a circus animal
[03:01] <jmichaelx> lol, i hear ya
[03:01] <Stronze> bartman2589, i hear it pays great in peanuts tho
[03:02] <bartman2589> but yeah, all seems well with it now, even managed to update to kde 4.7.3 without any problems and unlike the problems I had with network manager the other day that all works the way one would expect it to now
[03:02] <bartman2589> lol
[03:02] <jmichaelx> awesome... so you were able to nuke that unwanted network device entry?
[03:04] <Daskreech> Stronze: What comes up for File associations?
[03:04] <bartman2589> sort of, did a clean install of 11.10 from bootable flash drive, and it never showed up in 11.10 like it did in 10.10 and 11.04.  unlike in those versions the connection showed up in network manager itself just fine so I was able to edit it and didn't need to add a new one manually
[03:05] <Stronze> Daskreech, KDE control module.
[03:06] <Daskreech> Corigo: what version of partition manager?
[03:06] <bartman2589> had to use 'nomodeset' and 'acpi=off' switches to start installer though, once I did that the text based installer worked just fine
[03:07] <corigo> 11.10 with KDE 4.7.2 gparted prompts for password, opens a task tab, shows spinning icon, but never displays a UI window
[03:07] <Stronze> Daskreech, there is an inode subsection
[03:07] <Daskreech> Stronze: Hmm I get http://wstaw.org/m/2011/11/12/plasma-desktops26305.jpg
[03:07] <Daskreech> Stronze: with a little arrow beside it?
[03:08] <phunyguy> corigo: open a konsole, and run gparted from there.  See what the error is.  My guess is a GTK theme display issue
[03:08] <bartman2589> have you considered trying the standalone gparted disk to do your partitioning for the moment?
[03:09] <bartman2589> you can get the iso and other files for the live gparted disc here: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/index.php
[03:09] <Stronze> Daskreech, thats exactly it and i found directory all by myself and it has all those with movie player included. i assume delete movie player?
[03:09] <Daskreech> Stronze: That's what you are seeing?
[03:09] <Daskreech> Stronze: Right put in Dolphin
[03:09] <Stronze> Daskreech, its already there
[03:10] <Daskreech> You can just put in dolphin and push it up to the top of the priority list
[03:10] <Daskreech> corigo: run it from the command line. It is probably a theme issue
[03:11] <Stronze> Daskreech,  it goes dolphin, gwenview,  file manger
[03:11] <Stronze> Daskreech,  no konquer like your image
[03:11] <Daskreech> Stronze: That's good enough
[03:11] <Daskreech> Click Apply
[03:11] <bartman2589> dumb question since I'm kind of new to irc chatting, but is the text I see highlighted (addressed to me) in orange a private message?  I'm using the windows version of quassel right now still from my windows machine until I get a bunch of things transferred to my Kubuntu box
[03:11] <Stronze> Daskreech,  i assumed so but figure di better list whats showing incase you spotted something needing fix
[03:12] <Stronze> Daskreech,  Configuration file "/home/stronze/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" not writable.
[03:12] <Stronze> Please contact your system administrator.
[03:12] <bartman2589> like the message from Stronze replying to my comment about not being a circus animal, that was highlighted in orange
[03:13] <Daskreech> Stronze: can you tell me what the persmissions there  are ?
[03:13] <Stronze> bartman2589, its not private but highlighted since it has your name
[03:13] <bartman2589> Ok, thanks
[03:14] <bartman2589> again, learning something new, goes with my saying "If you don't learn at least one new thing every day you're doing something wrong"
[03:14] <corigo> Maybe a restart was required after install. Running from command line launched the UI after a restart
[03:15] <Stronze> Daskreech, when i click edit, it says owner read write but group and others says read only
[03:15] <Daskreech> Stronze: and you are the owner?
[03:15] <Daskreech> !tab | bartman2589
[03:15] <Stronze> Daskreech, yeps and only user
[03:16] <Daskreech> Stronze: >_>
[03:16] <bartman2589> thanks
[03:17] <Daskreech> Stronze: umm. close file associations and reopen
[03:19] <Stronze> Daskreech, seems file associations has locked up
[03:23] <wgh_> ?
[03:23] <corigo> Nope, very strange. Launches fine from the command line, but from the Launcher it fails every time
[03:27] <Daskreech> Bah netdied
[03:27] <Daskreech> what was the last thing that I said?
[03:28] <kamilnadeem> Hi Everyone.
[03:28] <Daskreech> Hello
[03:28] <bartman2589> [22:27:48] <Daskreech> Bah netdied
[03:28] <Daskreech> bartman2589: Very Cute :)
[03:28] <bartman2589> hehe
[03:29] <kamilnadeem> Hi Daskreech
[03:29] <corigo> any suggested tutorials on setting up a RAID5 array in Kubuntu?
[03:29] <bartman2589> before that it was: [22:17:16] <Daskreech> Stronze: umm. close file associations and reopen
[03:30] <kamilnadeem> guys, I have created a new Blog about Linux and FOSS: http://mknadeem.blogspot.com/ .
[03:30] <kamilnadeem> Please check it and share if you find it interesting or informative.
[03:30] <kamilnadeem> Also The First post introduces non FOSS people to our very own Ubuntu .
[03:32] <Stronze> Daskreech,  did i ping out?
[03:33] <Daskreech> DOn't know I timed out as well
[03:33] <Daskreech> kamilnadeem: Hello
[03:33] <kamilnadeem> Hi Daskreech
[03:33] <Daskreech> kamilnadeem: how are you?
[03:34] <Stronze> Daskreech, we was at im the one and only user
[03:34] <Daskreech> Stronze: what was the last thing you saw from me?
[03:34] <kamilnadeem> great , and you?
[03:34] <Daskreech> Stronze: Ah and File associations was frozen? Is it still like that?
[03:35] <Stronze> Daskreech, no i was able to close it.. <Stronze> Daskreech, i got it to close and i tried moving and redeleting buts not letting me make changes and giving same dialog box
[03:35] <Daskreech> Stronze: strange. Ok give me moment
[03:36] <Daskreech> Stronze: what's in that file?
[03:37] <Daskreech> kamilnadeem: I'm fine :)
[03:37] <kamilnadeem> Great.
[03:37] <Stronze> Daskreech,  you mean the association order?
[03:37] <corigo> I guess I'll restart and see if my RAID array is still there...
[03:38] <Daskreech> Stronze: no in the ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[03:38] <Daskreech> corigo: Cross your toes
[03:38] <Daskreech> kamilnadeem: Good to hear :)
[03:38] <kamilnadeem> Sorry for posting about my blog here guys, I forgot that these are support channels, I have just been reprimanded on the main ubuntu channel . My mistake
[03:39] <Daskreech> kamilnadeem: Yep bad place for it. Try an offtopic chan
[03:39] <kamilnadeem> yes Daskreech , doing just that , this moment
[03:40] <Daskreech> Stronze: I would guess it's not empty?
[03:43] <Stronze> Daskreech,  http://pastebin.com/PTuvh9z0
[03:43] <corigo> Hmm. at reboot (after BIOS to point at right boot drive) the UI drops away before login and I'm at a (initramfs) command line screen
[03:45] <Daskreech> Stronze: try mv ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list.two
[03:45] <saravana> guys im going to install kubuntu 11.04.but which is the best 32 or 64 bit
[03:45] <Daskreech> saravana: how much memory do you have?
[03:46] <corigo> stuck at BusyBox v1.18.4 (Ubuntu 1:1.18.4-2ubuntu2) built-in shell (ash)
[03:46] <saravana> 500 gb
[03:46] <Stronze> Daskreech,  copy paste whole thing you typedf?
[03:46] <Stronze> Daskreech, typed*
[03:46] <Daskreech> Stronze: yes
[03:47] <Daskreech> saravana: that's hard drive. How much RAM do youhave?
[03:47] <saravana> 4 gb
[03:48] <corigo> Maybe I should start over with Nexenta and ZFS. Anyone know if there is KDE support for Nexenta?
[03:48] <saravana> Daskreech: 4 gb RAM
[03:49] <Daskreech> saravana: 64 GB
[03:49] <Daskreech> saravana: 64 Bit I mean
[03:50] <saravana> Daskreech: ya thanks dude
[03:50] <saravana> Daskreech: how can i install without losin my data
[03:51] <Daskreech> saravana: I don't know what your current setup is
[03:51] <saravana> Daskreech: now im usin 11.04 beta
[03:51] <saravana> kubuntu Daskreech
[03:51] <Daskreech> saravana: do you have a /home partition ?
[03:52] <saravana> ya i hav Daskreech
[03:52] <Daskreech> saravana: Then just don't delete it
[03:53] <saravana> das
[03:53] <Daskreech> Stronze: Hi
[03:53] <Stronze> Daskreech, i think i might have pinged out
[03:53] <saravana> Daskreech:  i hav to delete only the root
[03:53] <saravana> Daskreech:  isnt it
[03:53] <Daskreech> saravana: When you are installing do a custom partitioning and tell it delete / but do not format /home
[03:53] <Daskreech> Stronze: You did
[03:54] <Stronze> Daskreech, when wifi slows, i dont know i lost connection
[03:54] <Daskreech> Happens to me as well
[03:54] <Hacker|laptop> Is it possible for flash to run doubles on top of itself?
[03:54] <saravana> Daskreech:  then what about root
[03:55] <Stronze> Daskreech,  Stronze> Daskreech, with the MV, invalid protocol. without, no file exist
[03:55] <Daskreech> Stronze: with the MV invalid protocol? What is giving you that error?
[03:55] <Stronze> Daskreech, is it possible to sudo edit the file?
[03:56] <Stronze> Daskreech, i copy pasted into dolphine
[03:56] <Daskreech> Stronze: oh ha
[03:56] <Daskreech> Stronze: press F4 and you will get a black window at the bottom of dolphin
[03:56] <Daskreech> paste it in there
[03:58] <saravana> Daskreech:  what about root
[03:58] <vehemoth> error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:58] <vehemoth> any ideas? I have libopenal1 installed
[03:59] <Daskreech> saravana: the only thnig you might need from root is /etc you can back that up if you like
[03:59] <Daskreech> saravana: Welcome back
[03:59] <Stronze> Daskreech, ug..i copy pasted into dolphin
[04:00] <Daskreech> Stronze: That's fine. Press F4 and you will get a terminal within dolphin
[04:00] <Stronze> Daskreech, would it be easier to sudo edit that file in terminal?
[04:00] <Daskreech> paste it in there
[04:00] <saravana> Daskreech:  whats the use of etc
[04:01] <Daskreech> saravana: it's the configuration files for anything that will affect the entire computer. Such as networking or the RAID arrangement or databases and so on
[04:02] <Stronze> Daskreech,  okay the orginal disappeared and now mimeapps.list.two is showing
[04:02] <saravana> when i install 11.10 it will install its own etc know
[04:02] <Daskreech> Stronze: oktry the file applications again
[04:03] <Daskreech> saravana: yes it will
[04:04] <saravana> Daskreech: k then i will format the root and delete the home
[04:04] <Stronze> Daskreech,  problem sovled. when i went to remove mplayer, it was already gone
[04:04] <Daskreech> saravana: and not delete the home
[04:05] <Daskreech> Stronze: :-D
[04:05] <saravana> Daskreech: oh k
[04:05] <Daskreech> saravana: home is where all yourdata is
[04:05] <Stronze> Daskreech, thanks bud, ill put you in for an MRE
[04:05] <Daskreech> Stronze: Sorry it took so long
[04:05] <Stronze> Daskreech,  its the lil things that seem complicated :/
[04:06] <Daskreech> Stronze: never seen that file not be writeable before
[04:06] <saravana> Daskreech: ok then anything wwhich i should do while installing
[04:06] <Stronze> Daskreech, just dont look inside my computer, you might find more things that your never seen :/
[04:07] <Stronze> Daskreech,  meaning OS
[04:07] <Daskreech> saravana: yes when it asks to install you will come to a section asking about partitioning
[04:07] <bartman2589> oh, and here I thought maybe there was a 'Dust Bunny' Family Reunion taking place in there ;)
[04:08] <Daskreech> Stronze: choose custom partitioning then where it says /home make sure that says do not format (it's not checked)
[04:08] <Daskreech> Stronze: Whoops that' was for saravana ^^^
[04:08] <Stronze> Daskreech, yeah i was wondering about that
[04:08] <Daskreech> Stronze: I'm sure. Linux is fun like that almost everyone has some little tweak that makes the OS their own
[04:08] <saravana> Daskreech: k
[04:09] <saravana> Daskreech: then wat to do
[04:09] <bartman2589> hmmmm, haven't had an MRE since I was on active duty for Dessert Shield/Storm
[04:09] <Stronze> Daskreech, i dont tweek mine. im just a glorified windows user compared yall
[04:09] <Stronze> bartman2589, they have gotten better since then
[04:10] <bartman2589> Me too Stronze, but I've been a Windows user since the 3.0 days
[04:10] <Daskreech> saravana: as long as /home isn't set to be formatted then you should be ok
[04:10] <bartman2589> so I've heard
[04:10] <bartman2589> about the MRE's I mean
[04:10] <Stronze> bartman2589,  except the scambled eggs, what ever idiot thought that up as an mre better not ever cross my path
[04:10] <Daskreech> Stronze: you are looking at linux you are already a windows user covered in glory :)
[04:10] <bartman2589> no more dehydrated pork patties?
[04:11] <Stronze> bartman2589, i been using ubuntu since 2007
[04:11] <Stronze> bartman2589, if it works, i dont mess with it and just use it
[04:11] <saravana> Daskreech: now can i start installing
[04:11] <Daskreech> saravana: if you like. are you using the lIve CD/
[04:11] <Daskreech> ?
[04:11] <bartman2589> I started using pc's in 1985ish when my dad bought my sister and I a PCjr
[04:12] <Stronze> Daskreech, i cant even used windows no more. i get disgusted at load times and always asking where the F*** is everything and why wont this work and etc
[04:12] <bartman2589> I didn't start seriously using linux until 2009, played around with it a bit a few years before that though
[04:12] <saravana> im gonna install using pendrive
[04:13] <Stronze> bartman2589,  i grew up around computers since my old man always had them but i only got on em and played games. i used windows 95
[04:13] <saravana> Daskreech: is that ok
[04:13] <bartman2589> I'm still stuck with XP, takes a long time to load sometimes compared to my linux machine, I do have a legit copy of Win7 i could install on my machine that's using XP right now but Win7 doesn't support the graphics card that's in that machine
[04:14] <Daskreech> saravana: If it's the live environment you can log in here to ask questions
[04:14] <Stronze> bartman2589, vista was the last straw
[04:15] <Stronze> bartman2589, i was in my first deployment and XP got so boggy that i couldnt play movies without closing anything and everything. so bought this laptop and vista pissed me off so bad that i installed ubuntu the moment i got back to germany
[04:16] <Stronze> bartman2589, hell i was trying to figure out fedora on the old laptop that i bought an install cd from a hoji shop
[04:16] <bartman2589> I actually sort of like Win7 aside from a few things, one is UAC, and there's a feature where it copies your files as you access them to a 'secure location' to try to prevent virus infection, problem is it doesn't always copy them back to where they originally were when you're done accessing them
[04:16] <saravana> Daskreech: can i install using pendrive
[04:16] <Daskreech> saravana: Yes
[04:17] <bartman2589> I did, saravana
[04:17] <bartman2589> but I couldn't use unetbootin under windows to make my install usb flashdrive, kept getting 'Boot Error' messages
[04:17] <saravana> thanks dude for helpin me now im going to installl 11.10
[04:18] <Stronze> bartman2589,  i have zero interest in ever using windows. only reason i still have vista on this one is for updating my gps and lil odds and ends that requires windows
[04:18] <bartman2589> had to use Universal USB Installer from PendriveLinux
[04:18] <bartman2589> I use Windows mainly because some programs I want to learn to use like Poser and 3DS Max and a few others won't run under WINE yet
[04:18] <Stronze> i even cancled netflix cuz i couldnt stream from linux and was tired of streaming from the xbox
[04:19] <bartman2589> but even under Linux I use a few Windows apps like Imgburn and Infrarecorder because I've never had any luck getting K3b to work right
[04:20] <bartman2589> K3b is my coaster maker for if I ever have company
[04:20] <Daskreech> yeah I tend to keep a really really light windows install in Vbox for things that need Windows but that means I haven't opened it for over a year at this point
[04:21] <bartman2589> I'm on OEM versions of XP, don't think I could run them on Virtualbox because of the licensing, not sure though
[04:21] <Stronze> i dont have a windows disk to install into virtual box
[04:21] <Stronze> i dont want to pirate one either. im that disgusted with windows software....thats sad when someone wont even steal your produvt
[04:21] <bartman2589> the computer I'm on right now is an old compaq, and the one I just installed 11.10 on is an old gateway system
[04:22] <bartman2589> lol
[04:23] <Stronze> my old HP can handle 9.10 but i never went further since its was a backup computer and i have this one...even tho its falling apart
[04:23] <jmichaelx> bartman2589: why would you not be able to run your OEM windows in virtualbox?
[04:24] <vehemoth> I seemed to have solved my problem by using a symbolic link from libopenal.so.0 to libopenal.so.1
[04:24] <Stronze> usb keyboard, battery wont charge and some hardware in the laptop fails and says check cable. never again do i touch the isnide of a computer
[04:25] <jmichaelx> Stronze: it may actually be that a cable is loose or disconnected inside your laptop :(
[04:25] <Stronze> jmichaelx i looked and the battery stopped working
[04:25] <bartman2589> my oem XP's are each preactivated XP pro discs, they check to see if they're being installed on a Compaq/HP or on a Gateway
[04:26] <bartman2589> I don't know if the system information is made available to them through virtualbox
[04:26] <jmichaelx> i need to take a sony vaio apart this weekend in order to reconnected the keyboard cable... you have to take the WHOLE bloody thing aprt
[04:26] <bartman2589> just haven't tried
[04:27] <bartman2589> weird, most of the time with laptops there's a panel up near the hinges that pops off so you can get to some screws and then the keyboard just tips up and out
[04:28] <Stronze> the back story: brother knocked glass of sweet ice tea into laptop. keyboard stop working. took apart and tried to save keyboard by cleaning connections. wouldnt boot saing that hardware failed and check cable. i took apart again trying to find loose wires. didnt work so i put it up and ordered a new kayboard.when it arrived i took apart and installed new keyboard.
[04:28] <jmichaelx> bartman2589: i see.... i have installed dell OEM disks in virtualbox several times without issue... and as i understand it, you are not even violating your license, if the virtual installation is on the same machine for which it was licensed
[04:28] <Stronze> computer stated workign on its own but battery wouldnt charge
[04:29] <Stronze> and the new keyboard rarely works since it was right type but wrong cable plug in and i had to bend in half and force sideways to plug in which i assume has damaged the the cable so i dont touch the inside of the computer
[04:29] <bartman2589> jmichaelx, ok, I didn't know that, but to be honest neither system is really powerful enough to run XP very well in a virtual machine, both old 32 bit processor systems
[04:29] <bartman2589> so I dual boot
[04:30] <jmichaelx> bartman2589: yea, your performance will be much better if it's not running as a VM
[04:32] <bartman2589> very true, if it were say a 6 core Phenom II or FX6100 then that would be a different matter, would still run ok for the most part I think, but on an old P4 2.8ghz or a P4 2.2ghz I don't think it would work so well
[04:32] <jmichaelx> it's a rare occasion that i use windows... wheni do, it is usually to see how a webpage renders in ie, as compared to other browsers
[04:33] <jmichaelx> bartman2589: i used to run XP SP3 on a 1.6GHz celeron laptop, with 1GB RAM.... it was no rocket, but was quite usuable
[04:33] <jmichaelx> usable*
[04:34] <bartman2589> that being the case you might want to look at an article I recently found on Webupd8, microsoft has released virtual machines for IE 7,8 & 9 for exactly the purpose of testing web pages
[04:34] <bartman2589> I'll see if I can find the link
[04:35] <jmichaelx> bartman2589: i used to run XP SP3 in virtualbox**
[04:35] <Stronze> well bye everyone, time for a coffin nail and play some eternal lands. thanks Daskreech, your awesome
[04:35] <jmichaelx> i still have that VM, but have since moved it to another machine
[04:35] <Daskreech> Stronze: I'm trying to get back into that. really liked that game
[04:36] <bartman2589> jmichaelx, here's the link to the article I mentioned: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/test-websites-in-internet-explorer-9-8.html
[04:36] <Stronze> Daskreech, i been playing for 4-5 months, its pretty good in my opinion
[04:36] <jmichaelx> ty bartman2589
[04:36] <bartman2589> webupd8 has a lot of information for linux users even if most of it is geared towards gnome desktop users
[04:37] <Stronze> Daskreech, i have the same username there so hit me up if you need anything
[04:38] <bartman2589> never heard of eternal lands
[04:38] <corigo> What is a good notepad editor?
[04:38] <Stronze> bartman - 3d game that runs native on linux
[04:38] <Stronze> or at least ubuntu
[04:38] <bartman2589> simple one is kwrite, not many features, simple straight forward text only editor
[04:40] <bartman2589> corigo, or you could use something like leafpad which is admittedly a gtk app but it's pretty much a clone of windows notepad
[04:40] <Stronze> bartman2589, ever play runescape?
[04:40] <bartman2589> no, used to play WoW, DDO, and Runes of Magic though
[04:41] <Stronze> bah i refuse to play for online gaming on my laptop.
[04:41] <bartman2589> DDO is free to play now, and Runes of Magic is too
[04:42] <Stronze> i played a graphic and text web browser game for like 11 years but it closed down due to some drama and i migrated to eternal lands
[04:42] <corigo> not the one I was trying to rememeber
[04:42] <bartman2589> like Ultima?
[04:42] <corigo> kate
[04:42] <Stronze> never heard of ultima
[04:42] <jmichaelx> this whole deal with ghost entries in the taskbar is really getting old
[04:44] <bartman2589> corigo, kate is a more complex editor than leafpad or kwrite, but if you're working with multiple documents it's really nice since you can have all of them open at once in a single window and just switch back and forth by choosing them on the left side list in kate
[04:44] <jmichaelx> if they do release 4.7.8 with this bug still present, and think i am finally going to part ways with KDE
[04:44] <bartman2589> Ultima Online, was kind of a predecessor to Runescape I think
[04:44] <bartman2589> it was really popular for several years
[04:45] <jmichaelx> s/and think i/i think/
[04:45] <Daskreech> corigo: kate?
[04:45] <Daskreech> It's the advanced version of kwrite
[04:45] <bartman2589> it's got a graphics window and a text window too
[04:45] <bartman2589> ultima online I mean
[04:45] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: sucks eh. are you running 4.7.3 ?
[04:46] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: yep... seems worse than in 4.7.2
[04:46] <bartman2589> Kate also support rich text editing I think, doesn't it?
[04:46] <Stronze> bartman - i played runescape ack in like 2000 or before for a short time but got tired of the community. seems to childish
[04:46] <Daskreech> jmichaelx: 4.7.3 fixed it for me (so far)
[04:47] <bartman2589> yeah, kind of why I left WoW, couldn't get any of my guildmates to help me with quests and got sick of getting gangked by bored lvl 70+ Horde
[04:47] <jmichaelx> Daskreech: glad to hear it. for me, 4.7.3 actually caused this problem to appear on one machine i have, that up until that point had seemed to be immune
[04:49] <Stronze> bartman2589, i play only free games. wasnt interested in playing enternal lands but it ran native on linux so i tried it and it grew on me. i prefer graphic and text browser games with a good community. but after the game i played closed, i was looking for a new home
[04:49] <bartman2589> 4.7.3 is working great for me so far, though I did have to disable desktop effects, made it kind of sluggish with them on and I can't stand all the transparency anyway, I usually do much the same on any Windows install I use too, you'd be surprised how much it speeds up things like window switching and other things
[04:50] <bartman2589> I pretty much only play free games too when I do play them, but mostly I spend my time in Second Life just hanging out and chatting with friends I've made there
[04:51] <Stronze> never cared to try second life. i like rpg's
[04:51] <Stronze> eer mmorpg
[04:51] <jmichaelx> geeks and their friday nights.... sigh
[04:52] <jmichaelx> :-D
[04:52] <bartman2589> second life is sort of like an mmorpg without the rpg part, or a chat client with a fully immersive 3d environment
[04:52] <Snowhog> !offtopic
[04:52] <Stronze> i figured it was like that
[04:52] <jmichaelx> the police have arrived
[04:53] <Stronze> O_o
[04:53] <bartman2589> so I see, getting kind of panicky aren't they?
[04:53] <Stronze> *runs*
[04:54] <Stronze> laters everyone
[04:55] <jmichaelx> adios
[04:55] <bartman2589> have fun
[04:55] <Stronze> Daskreech, same name in EL, need help, just ask. bartman2589 if you try it, hit me up and ill help
[04:55] <Daskreech> Stronze: cool
[04:56] <bartman2589> Ok
[04:56] <corigo> woo hoo got RAID 5 volume setup and mounted, set permissions now another reboot
[04:57] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all. :)
[05:00] <LINKSWORD2> OK, interesting....
[05:01] <corigo> hi linksword2
[05:02] <LINKSWORD2> My computer does NOT like Kubuntu 11.10. I've had to uninstall 11.10 and start over with a previous Kubuntu version several times.
[05:02] <LINKSWORD2> Now I'm being prompted to upgrade again to 11.10, and I want those prompts to stop.
[05:07] <Snowhog> LINKSWORD2: Change Software Sources > Updates > Release upgrade to Never.
[05:08] <corigo> Linksword2: Applications -> Settings -> System Settings -> Application & System Notifications -> Other Notifications -> Upgrade Information
[05:16] <LINKSWORD2> I've found a possibly better option.
[05:16] <LINKSWORD2> I've set Kubuntu's software upgrade options to LTS releases only.
[06:32] <saravana> hi guys just now i finished installing kubuntu 11.10
[06:33] <saravana> what are the sofwares i should install
[06:34] <Daskreech> saravana: Depends on what you want?
[06:35] <saravana> Daskreech:  i need skype
[06:35] <saravana> how to install it
[06:36] <Daskreech> !skype
[06:36] <saravana> does it available in soft package
[06:38] <saravana> i downloaded skype but it is not installing .
[06:40] <saravana> now downloadin dependencies
[06:53] <saravana> Daskreech: i hav installed skype
[06:53] <Daskreech> saravana: Great
[06:55] <saravana> Daskreech: can u suggest me some intrest software of kubuntu
[06:55] <Daskreech> saravana: What are your interests?
[06:56] <saravana> wallpapers songs themes whatever things makes my system looks cool Daskreech
[06:57] <Daskreech> Ah
[06:57] <Daskreech> Songs I don't know if they are still in the repos
[06:58] <Daskreech> !info wallpaper
[06:58] <Daskreech> !info kde-wallpapers
[06:58] <Daskreech> I actually don't know if that's the same as kdewallpapers
[06:58] <Daskreech> !info kdewallpapers
[06:59] <Daskreech> Probably not
[06:59] <saravana> Daskreech: thats fine
[06:59] <Daskreech> !info tropic-wallpapers
[07:00] <saravana> Daskreech:  where is tropic wall
[07:00] <Daskreech> saravana: In the package manager
[07:01] <phoenix_firebrd> I want you to vote for kde https://verein.ing-diba.de/sonstiges/10115/kde-ev
[07:01] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: You should probablymention that you can vote three times
[07:02] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: we should add this to the channel topic
[07:02] <Daskreech> No we should not
[07:02] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: its very sad that the ranking has dropped to 1033
[07:02] <Daskreech> I know it was 1088 earlier
[07:02] <Daskreech> I've been trying to get the votes to 5000
[07:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: thank you
[07:03] <Daskreech> That would place us over 500 which is comfortable
[07:03] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: as a tip if you have a hotmail account you can make 3 aliases which give you 9 more votes :-D
[07:04] <saravana> Daskreech: there is no tropic look in package manager
[07:04] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: i thought of that , but i was afraid that they may disqualify kde because of that
[07:04] <Daskreech> saravana: tropic-wallpaper is the name of the package
[07:05] <saravana> ya its not there dude
[07:05] <phoenix_firebrd> saravana: India?
[07:06] <saravana> yup phoenix_firebrd
[07:06] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: Thought of that but not sure why that would be held against them
[07:06] <phoenix_firebrd> saravana: Tamildnadu?
[07:06] <Daskreech> saravana: you have universe enabled?
[07:07] <saravana> Daskreech: no
[07:07] <Daskreech> saravana: thats' whre it is
[07:07] <saravana> phoenix_firebrd:  yes
[07:07] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: The companies like google use to do ban account who do these type of things
[07:08] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: they have a lot of ban stuff up front
[07:08] <Daskreech> You can't use mangled aliases
[07:08] <saravana> phoenix_firebrd:  u r from
[07:08] <phoenix_firebrd> saravana: same
[07:08] <Daskreech> you can't use blacklisted domains
[07:08] <saravana> phoenix_firebrd: chennai
[07:09] <Daskreech> You can't use throwaway accounts
[07:09] <phoenix_firebrd> saravana: yes
[07:09] <saravana> phoenix_firebrd: studying?
[07:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: i have 6 email accounts, so if you feel its ok to vote with that, then its 18 more votes from me
[07:09] <Daskreech> Having said that you can use different real accounts 3 times each
[07:09] <saravana> Daskreech:  how to enable it
[07:10] <phoenix_firebrd> saravana: working, Embedded systems programmer
[07:10] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: I think it would be ok they just want to be able to reach you when it's done
[07:10] <saravana> phoenix_firebrd: tamil theriyuma??????????? :-)
[07:11] <Daskreech> saravana: in apper click settings and see if universe is checked. If it is then click apply
[07:11] <phoenix_firebrd> saravana: enna kelvi ithu ?
[07:12] <saravana> phoenix_firebrd: chumma
[07:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: i certainly can say that , the bank did find a good way of advertising
[07:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: i have an idea
[07:12] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: 1000000 euro  :)
[07:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: Its an International firm right so..
[07:13] <Daskreech> phoenix_firebrd: pluss they get millions of e-mails
[07:13] <Daskreech> Hooray
[07:14] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: I will mail all the popular linux websites to post a message or an article regarding this voting. Let them give back something to kde
[07:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Daskreech: The bank will be spam marking , he he he
[07:15] <Daskreech> :)
[07:15] <saravana> Daskreech: there is no setting option and there are two things in the name of apper common apper and worksapce apper
[07:16] <Daskreech> saravana: Bah sorry Muon
[07:19] <saravana> Daskreech: in muon there is no apperence setting
[07:21] <saravana> Daskreech:  where it is
[07:21] <saravana> Daskreech: ????
[07:22] <bartman2589> dumb question time again, is there a shell pipe utility that I can use to send the output from one command to the clipboard?  I know I can send to another program easily enough like 'ls /etc/bin | less' if I wanted to have the display pause after each screenfull of data, but is there a utility that I can do something like 'ls /etc/bin | clipboard' for example with that would copy the output to the clipboard?
[07:36] <fayaz> bartman2589: this should get you started: "qdbus org.kde.klipper /klipper org.kde.klipper.klipper.setClipboardContents hello"
[08:21] <bartman2589> I have a quick question about using fstab to mount hard drives at boot, I'm wondering how I can add a mount location that contains a space in the name to fstab, if I use the method needed to cd to it by putting a \ before the space character mount complains that the line has an error in it
[08:26] <bartman2589> the volume label on the drive in question has a space in it, and if I comment out the line in fstab and click on the drive in dolphin it mounts at '/media/1Tb Windows' (with a space between '1Tb' & 'Windows') without a problem, but if I try to make fstab mount it at the same location it complains
[08:28] <bartman2589> I've tried enclosing the path in both single quotes and double quotes but neither works, only thing I haven't really tried is enclosing the mountpoint name itself in quotes
[09:19] <saravana> hi guys i need to install adobe flash player for kubuntu 11.10
[09:21] <saravana> how toinstall flas player
[09:35] <saravana> need adobe flash player for google chrome and firefox
[09:35] <saravana> how to install
[09:37] <saravana> help me out
[09:37] <vehemoth> muon package manager
[09:38] <vehemoth> saravana: type in flash
[09:38] <vehemoth> or flashplugin if you want more precise results
[09:40] <saravana> k
[09:41] <saravana> vehemoth: when i try to install plugin
[09:41] <saravana> an error shown
[09:41] <saravana> vehemoth: Another application seems to be using the package system at this time. You must close all other package managers before you will be able to install or remove any packages.
[09:42] <vehemoth> are you installing updates?
[09:43] <vehemoth> did you kill any application that was installing software or updates?
[09:43] <saravana> vehemoth: think so yes
[09:44] <vehemoth> make sure no updaters or software installers are running
[09:44] <vehemoth> then type into terminal
[09:44] <vehemoth> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:45] <vehemoth> it should give some output, if it's short paste back here
[09:47] <saravana> vehemoth: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:49] <vehemoth> try running sudo dpkg --configure -a then
[09:52] <saravana> vehemoth:i did it many commands came
[09:52] <vehemoth> saravana: can you explain further?
[09:52] <vehemoth> did it have a lot of output?
[09:53] <vehemoth> if it didn't seem to have any sort of error message, go back into muon and try installing flash again
[09:53] <saravana> there is no error mes and aa
[09:53] <saravana> all
[09:54] <saravana> but i have installed adobe plugin which is available in muon
[09:56] <saravana> vehemoth: but it is not workin for web browsers
[10:07] <vehemoth> which one did you install?
[10:08] <vehemoth> I have both flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-downloader installed
[10:12] <vehemoth> saravana: which one did you install?
[10:12] <vehemoth> I have both flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-downloader installed
[10:13] <saravana> vehemoth: installer
[10:13] <vehemoth> I'd install downloader as well and see if that works if installer didn't
[10:13] <saravana> vehemoth:  hey dude my muon is not respondind
[10:13] <saravana> g
[10:14] <saravana> vehemoth: it is not installing and removing
[10:14] <vehemoth> g??
[10:14] <vehemoth> I mark for installation
[10:14] <vehemoth> and then apply changes
[10:15] <saravana> vehemoth: what to do now muon is not workin properly
[10:15] <vehemoth> what do you mean it's not working
[10:16] <vehemoth> what did you do?
[10:16] <vehemoth> so long as it's not currently installing or removing
[10:16] <saravana> vehemoth: ya
[10:16] <vehemoth> you should be able to exit it but I can't garuntee anything
[10:17] <vehemoth> and then install it using apt-get
[10:17] <saravana> its not even gettin closed
[10:17] <saravana> is there any thing like system restore
[10:17] <vehemoth> what's system restore?
[10:17] <saravana> like the one in win xp
[10:18] <vehemoth> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-downloader
[10:18] <Shaan7> saravana: muon software center or muon package manager?
[10:18] <Shaan7> saravana: oor maybe just reboot
[10:19] <saravana> Shaan7: software manager
[10:19] <saravana> Shaan7:  sorry
[10:19] <saravana> Shaan7: software center
[10:19] <vehemoth> wow, there's a muon software center
[10:19] <vehemoth> awesome
[10:20] <vehemoth> night
[10:20] <Shaan7> saravana: hmm then if a reboot doesnt help, use the package manager and see if it works
[10:20] <saravana> Shaan7: ya i will try now
[10:26] <mirrakor> whom do I have to bribe to get a package into the ubuntu repositories?
[11:39] <Guest28091> hello
[11:44] <Guest34376> hello
[12:03] <ubuntu> un saludo
[12:04] <g0th> hi
[12:04] <ubuntu> si estoy modo live de ubuntu y quiero instalar algo cual es el password de root?
[12:04] <g0th> I cannot click on anything on the kde panel.
[12:04] <ubuntu> como si estuviera probando ubuntu
[12:05] <g0th> it is non responsive
[12:05] <g0th> and the first desktop is supposed to have a background slideshow but it is just black
[12:06] <g0th> also I should have 6 horizontal desktops but it seems it is 6 desktops in 2 rows (instead of 1)
[12:06] <g0th> what's going on?
[12:06] <g0th> Also: whenever I try to upload something with firefox the upload window never finnishes loading
[12:06] <g0th> I have to use chromium for that
[12:07] <g0th> my system seems to behave very strange, any help?
[12:07] <saravana> which adobe flash player will suit all the browsers
[12:08] <g0th> maybe I should ask in #ubuntu (more people around there)?
[12:08] <g0th> or is this a #kde issue?
[12:09] <g0th> hello? ....
[12:11] <g0th> I cannot click on anything on the kde panel. it is non responsive  and the first desktop is supposed to have a background slideshow but it is just black  also I should have 6 horizontal desktops but it seems it is 6 desktops in 2 rows (instead of 1).   Also: whenever I try to upload something with firefox the upload window never finnishes loading, so I have to use chromium for that. What's going on??
[12:12] <g0th> how do I make my system not "fucked up"
[12:12] <g0th> what's causing this?
[12:12] <g0th> the most urgent issue is the non responsive kde panel
[12:15] <TheLastProject> I unfortunately do not know what to do, but I would recommend not re-posting your question every 2 minutes or using the #ubuntu channel, as your question is about KDE, which has nothing to do with the default installation. If there's someone who knows the answer he will most likely help you soon enough.
[12:40] <TheLastProject> Is it possible to auto-hide the taskbar when a certain application is in focus or only on a certain desktop (as in, only on Desktop 2 but not on Desktop 1)?
[12:41] <Martt> hi everybody
[12:41] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: hi
[12:42] <Martt> I got some problem with Kubuntu: can someone help me?
[12:42] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: what is the problem>
[12:44] <Martt> I have a mp3 player (samsung yp t9j) and amarok does not recognise it
[12:45] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: let me check
[12:45] <Martt> sure
[12:45] <Martt> thanks a lot
[12:45] <Martt> :)
[12:46] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: can you check if the plugin "MTP Collection" is enabled in Amarok
[12:48] <Martt> where am I supposed to check? I never used amarok to syncronize an mp3 reader
[12:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: goto setting menu and select configure amarok
[12:49] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: on the left side panel select plugins
[12:50] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: on the right side panel , can you see the "MTP Collection" selected?
[12:50] <Martt>  "MTP Collection" is selected
[12:50] <Martt> but there is no  MTP device plugin
[12:51] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: you are in the settings dialog right?
[12:51] <Martt> yes
[12:51] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: inside plugins ?
[12:52] <Martt> yes, sure
[12:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: thats strange
[12:53] <Martt> Have I got someting to install with Muon?
[12:54] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: did you remove anything related to amarok?
[12:54] <Martt> nothing
[12:54] <Martt> I have got Kubuntu 11.10
[12:55] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: ok wait
[12:55] <Martt> yeah
[12:57] <nodragon> i still use 11.04
[12:57] <nodragon> hehe
[12:58] <nodragon> could you tell me what are the differences?
[12:58] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: open muon
[12:58] <Martt> ok
[12:58] <nodragon> thx
[12:58] <Martt> nodragon: just a second
[12:58] <nodragon> ok
[12:59] <Martt> phoenix_firebrd: opened it
[12:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: check if libmtp is installed
[13:00] <nodragon> then?
[13:01] <Martt> it looks like such lib is not installed
[13:01] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: libmtp9?
[13:02] <Martt> phoenix_firebrd: no
[13:02] <Martt> it is not installed
[13:03] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: is it available for installation?
[13:03] <Martt> but I cannot see such lib neither in the downloading section
[13:03] <Martt> so I cannot install it
[13:04] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: are you using the software center or the muon?
[13:05] <Martt> muon
[13:05] <Martt> I am on Kubuntu
[13:05] <Martt> is it possible to check using the Konsole ?
[13:06] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: just to confirm, is this the one you are using http://jontheechidna.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/viewimprovements.png?
[13:06] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: http://jontheechidna.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/viewimprovements.png
[13:07] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: ?
[13:08] <Martt> ops... I think I am using Muon Software centre
[13:08] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: ok, open muon
[13:09] <Martt> ok I have just checked
[13:09] <Martt> libmtp is installed
[13:09] <Martt> *libmtp9
[13:09] <Martt> but mtp-tools is not installed
[13:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: install mtp-tools
[13:11] <Martt> ok
[13:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: installed?
[13:13] <Martt> not yet
[13:13] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: ok
[13:13] <Martt> it looks like the installation is blocked at 66%
[13:14] <Martt> I don't know why it is taking so much time
[13:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: is your internet connect good?
[13:16] <Martt> yes
[13:16] <Martt> here it is: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/14348695.png/
[13:17] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: did the status  increase from 66%
[13:17] <Martt> no
[13:17] <Martt> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/14348695.png/
[13:18] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: it seems that you have a pending installation issue
[13:19] <Martt> yes
[13:19] <Martt> it says it is configurating flashplayer
[13:19] <Martt> well
[13:19] <Martt> just finished :D
[13:20] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: installed?
[13:21] <Martt> yes
[13:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: unplug your mp3 player, restart amarok, plug your mp3 player and see if it is detected
[13:23] <Martt> kubuntu detected it but amarok did not
[13:25] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: can you post a snap?
[13:26] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: some image showing your detected
[13:26] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: some image showing your device detected
[13:26] <Martt> just a second
[13:28] <Martt> here it is
[13:28] <Martt> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/337/schermata1mz.png/
[13:30] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: was it detected like this before?
[13:30] <Martt> yes
[13:30] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: ok
[13:31] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: wait
[13:33] <Martt> ok
[13:38] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: connect you mp3 player, open terminal , run the command "mtp-detect" and paste the output here using paste.kde.org
[13:39] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: nice wallpaer, where did you get it?
[13:39] <Martt> i can't remeber
[13:40] <Martt> if you want it i'm gonna give it to you
[13:40] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: ok
[13:40] <Martt> however, my output:
[13:40] <Martt> http://paste.kde.org/145310/
[13:42] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt:  this shows that kubuntu detects fine
[13:42] <Martt> well
[13:42] <Martt> but amarok does not
[13:43] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: can you paste a snap of the plugins settings
[13:45] <Martt> here it is: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/249/schermata2c.png/
[13:47] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: so the mtp plugin is present
[13:48] <Martt> so.. why amarok does not detect it?
[13:48] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: checking
[13:53] <JoeSomebody> hi, i was looking for a "getting started in kubuntu" pdf, is there one , or something downloadable somewhere?
[13:58] <Cenbe> Trying to set up networking manually (by populating /etc/network/interfaces), but resolvconf always wants to remove my DNS settings at startup. How can I fix it?
[13:58] <Cenbe> I do have the dns-* entries in /etc/network/interfaces.
[14:01] <Cenbe> And I commented out the start and stop lines in /etc/init for NetworkManager.
[14:04] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: can you paste the output of the command "mtp-albums" using paste.kde.org
[14:05] <Martt> sure
[14:05] <Martt> http://paste.kde.org/145316/
[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: is your mp3 player empty?
[14:09] <Martt> no
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: ok
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: i have tried all i know, for you to know even my 5800 is not getting detected
[14:14] <Martt> damn...
[14:14] <Martt> i have to use seven...
[14:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: wait here someone with better expertise than me can help you
[14:15] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: if you can check back tomorrow, i may possibly try something in the mean time
[14:16] <Martt> ok
[14:16] <Martt> thanks a lot
[14:16] <Martt> :)
[14:16] <phoenix_firebrd> Martt: yw
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:36] <saba> hi all
[14:37] <Guest44132> when I try to install wine it apt tells me it needs to get 180 megs from repo
[14:37] <Guest44132> is it correct behaviour ?
[14:38] <Guest44132> why does it needs  libqt4-designer:i386 for wine ?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Guest44132, , perhaps the #wine chat can answer your query
[14:40] <Guest44132> BluesKaj: did apt asked for 180 megs from repos when you installed wine ?
[14:41] <Guest44132> bcz I dont remember wine requiring some packages to install from the repos
[14:41] <Guest44132> *so
[14:41] <BluesKaj> i don't use wine , but that sounds reasonable , Guest44132 .it needs few libs that's for sure
[14:42] <Guest44132> apparently #wine is invite only channel
[14:42] <BluesKaj> try #winehq
[14:42] <Guest44132> right, it is #winehq
[14:53] <Guest44132> some thing odd is happening here with my fresh kubuntu install. a lot of packets are being dropped
[14:53] <Guest44132> broadcom wireless card
[15:07] <new2net> I tried to install Flash through the Software Center but it has been stuck "in progress" for about 10 minutes. How can I terminate the transaction (install) safely?
[15:18] <James147> new2net: there is no "safe" way to stop it... you can only kill it and then clean up after (which normally isnt to hard)
[15:20] <BluesKaj> new2net, canonical has aproblems today , I had the same issue
[15:21] <BluesKaj> new2net, canonical partner repos seem to be choked today
[16:28] <_jam> kmail won't send email. it just goes to my local outbox and sits there. no errors or anything
[16:33] <Snowhog> _jam: Have you checked your Accounts > Sending settings?
[16:34] <_jam> yea, they look right
[16:34] <_jam> and if they weren't, you'd think an error would be thrown. invalid authentication, bad host, something
[16:34] <_jam> but there are no errors. it just sits there
[16:35] <_jam> I just upgraded to 11.10 yesterday afternoon and noticed that an email I sent yesterday was still in the outbox
[16:36] <Snowhog> _jam: What is set under Common Options?
[16:37] <_jam> confirm before send is not checked; send messages in outbox folder on manual checks, default send method is send now; default domain is sen (the hostname of my laptop)
[16:37] <_jam> Snowhog: I've also right clicked on outbox and told it to send queued messages...nothing
[16:37] <_jam> It is kind of frustrating, as at least if there was an error, I could look that up and deal with it
[16:39] <Snowhog> _jam: The single difference in your Common Options vs what I have is Send messages in outbox folder Never Automatically.
[16:39] <_jam> yea, i had it like that. i changed it hoping it might fix something
[16:39] <Snowhog> _jam: You are receiving emails okay?
[16:40] <_jam> yes
[16:40] <kamilnadeem> Hi everyone
[16:40] <Snowhog> _jam: This single message was present before you upgraded? Have you tried sending a new message to yourself?
[16:40] <luggyx> hi
[16:41] <_jam> Snowhog: the message was not present before I upgraded. however, i have since deleted it from the outbox and tried sending other messages (to myself and others) without success
[16:45] <_jam> Snowhog: well, doesn't seem like I am alone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1863384
[16:46] <Snowhog> _jam: Well, one troubleshooting approach would be to create a new Sending entry with all the required settings, then delete the existing one. Close Kontact/Kmail and relaunch and test again.
[16:46] <BluesKaj> !kmailbug
[16:48] <BluesKaj> Snowhog, _jam , there's a bug in kmail pim transfer in 11.10 , I cans' tell you the problem , but I know there's abug report on launchpad with work around I believe
[16:48] <_jam> I knew there was one about migrating email, didn't know it extended to sending email
[16:49] <BluesKaj> jam  , then you already know more than i do ..i don't use kmail/kontact personally so ....
[16:50] <kamilnadeem> Sorry my connection dropped.
[16:50] <BluesKaj> sorry ?
[16:51] <_jam> it seems like most people are advising to nuke everything in kmail and start over....
[16:51] <_jam> oi, that is a lot of work
[16:51] <BluesKaj>  well gotta go
[16:51] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[16:52] <_jam> alright, thanks
[16:55] <kamilnadeem_> Sorry My Internet connection is giving me a hard time :(
[16:55] <kamilnadeem_> so is there any solution to the prob I mentioned ?
[16:59] <kamilnadeem_> A friend of mine is having a problem , this is what he asked me "Was there something done to linux kernel that it does not recognize PS3EYE as audio input? I tested it on Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10. It worked without any problem in old releases of Ubuntu.Video is still working without problem."? , sadly it is above my knowledge level. It would be great if you guys can provide some help.
[17:05] <_jam> ok, now the question is how to purge all kmail settings
[17:05] <_jam> rm -r .kde/share/apps/kmail* .kde/share/config/kmail* has not worked
[17:06] <_jam> many settings were purged, not all
[17:12] <_jam> ugh, and you STILL can't click on links in away messages in kopete
[17:12] <_jam> why is that feature not implemented...seriously. there's been a RFE on that for forever
[17:18] <phunyguy> ok this is really aggravating.   I replaced the NIC in this PC, changed out the switch, rebooted the router, changed out the network cable, yet still browsing is this big ordeal that only works half the time./
[17:18] <phunyguy> I think it is only related to web browsing, torrents still cruise right along.  DNS lookups seem to be the issue.
[17:58] <rotsy> hi
[17:58] <rotsy> can anyone direct me to any link that shows how to change theme on kubuntu?
[17:59] <rotsy> seen DarthFrog
[18:11] <killown> kde effects doesn't work when xinerama is enabled?
[18:20] <[VK]> hi
[18:20] <[VK]> Can anybody tell me how to play a mp3?
[18:21] <[VK]> I always get "The following plugin is required:
[18:21] <[VK]> MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3)
[18:21] <[VK]> Do you want to search for this now?"
[18:23] <bartman2589> Hi everyone, need some help trying to figure out why my soundcard isn't being 'claimed', it shows up as 'unassigned class' when I run 'sudo lspci -v'
[18:24] <bartman2589> it's a soundblaster audigy2 value sb0400
[18:26] <bartman2589> anyone?
[18:26] <iazeroth> hi
[18:29] <iazeroth> bartman just type "audigy 2 kubuntu"  to google
[18:29] <iazeroth> there are a lot of solutions
[18:31] <iazeroth> for example
[18:31] <iazeroth> http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=audigy+2+kubuntu&pbx=1&oq=audigy+2+kubuntu&aq=f&aqi=g-v1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3709l3709l0l4845l1l1l0l0l0l0l181l181l0.1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=24c9ddab306e6d80&biw=1280&bih=647
[18:32] <bartman2589> well I know that under earlier releases 'no audio' was usually cause by improper initialization of the card, fix involved using one of the alsa mixers to enable some settings, but that was only valid if the card was being claimed by the system
[18:36] <iazeroth> found solution for gnome ( give me some more time )
[18:38] <bartman2589> might have the solution, I missed installing the alsa firmware package when I uninstalled pulseaudio and installed alsa, I'll know once I reboot.  Also, I installed Nautilus so I could use some of the nautilus scripts for when I needed to do some things that I can't find equivalent dolphin actions for, but now every time I reboot nautilus is launching itself
[18:38] <iazeroth> hm i have found a solution but in russian langugage
[18:38] <iazeroth> if you can translate it with google translate for example
[18:38] <iazeroth> can give you a link
[18:40] <bartman2589> sure, worth a shot
[18:40] <iazeroth> http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=170908.0
[18:41] <iazeroth> hope it will help
[18:44] <bartman2589> no such luck, that's the solution I mentioned basically for when the card is actually claimed, my problem is the card isn't being claimed by the system so no drivers are being loaded for it
[18:44] <bartman2589> as a result none of the mixers see the card
[18:51] <iazeroth> here is drivers for audigy 2
[18:51] <iazeroth> http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx?catID=1&subCatID=205&prodID=4915&prodName=Audigy%202%20ZS&subCatName=Audigy&CatName=Sound+Blaster&VARSET=prodfaq:PRODFAQ_4915,VARSET=CategoryID:1
[18:51] <iazeroth> and i didnt found any for linux
[18:52] <bartman2589> onboard gets found if I enable it along with the audigy2 card though, but only the onboard is being claimed, here's the output from 'sudo lspci -v': http://paste.ubuntu.com/736534
[18:52] <bartman2589> if you look at item 03:01.0 that's the soundcard that's not working
[18:53] <ScottyK> Is there a way to prevent the screen saver from kicking only while Dragon Player is playing video?
[19:21] <deisy> HOLLA
[19:24] <emiliosljr> viva
[19:34] <niyubi> hello
[19:34] <niyubi> when i use xmodmap -e "keycode 118 = Control_R NoSymbol Control_R" the control key is not set. keycode 118 is Insert. Can anybody help me?
[19:42] <[VK]> I have a question: Is it possible to import a Visual C++ Project in Codeblocks?
[19:43] <[VK]> Well not directly a kubuntu question but maybe someone of you knows the answear
[19:52] <jmichaelx> ok, what is the freaking deal that kubuntu oneiric does not respect phonon settings?
[19:52] <bartman2589> Not sure about Codeblocks but I think you can import it into Monodevelop, can't say for certain though
[20:04] <sluckxz> just deleted dpkg lock file.  haha this could be fun.
[20:18] <sluckxz> akonadi errors now.  bummer.
[20:21] <[VK]> hi
[20:21] <[VK]> anybody knows how to install the complete OpenGL library with all the extrafiles
[20:22] <[VK]> like glfw.h etc
[20:23] <burfl> testing (sry, technical difficulties here)
[20:23] <burfl> okay, does anybody know of a good (or at least known) reason why the kubuntu installer would hang on the page where you choose whether or not to install Flash, MP3, etc?
[20:24] <burfl> i've tried several times with every combination of options and even gone out for food to be sure it was actually hung up
[20:25] <jmichaelx> burfl: you might want to try just skipping that part, and installing those things after the OS is installed
[20:26] <burfl> i'd love to, how do i "just skip it"?  i already tried running it with those things unchecked
[20:26] <jmichaelx> ok, i thought the issue had to do with selecting those things
[20:26] <burfl> if it helps, i'm running the amd64 installer with a phenom II x6.. i mean i definitely don't want the i386, right? lol
[20:27] <jmichaelx> well, if i had that CPU, i would certainly want 64 bit
[20:27] <burfl> are there known problems with the 64 bit installer?
[20:28] <Guest52105> 01010
[20:30] <jmichaelx> burfl: you would have to look through the kubuntu site for mention of known issues... i don't know of one like you describe, but it sure is not impossible
[20:30] <burfl> yeah, do you know if the universal usb tool from PenDrive Linux could be the issue?  that's what i used to write the iso
[20:31] <burfl> is there a preferred way to do it with kubuntu?
[20:32] <jmichaelx> burfl: kubuntu has its own bootable USB creation tool
[20:32] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[20:32] <jmichaelx> burfl: that might be worth trying
[20:33] <Guest52105> un canal en español??'
[20:33] <lello> hi
[20:33] <OerHeks> !es
[20:34] <lello> It's all right. I have an upgrade problem to 11.10
[20:36] <lello> System tries to fetch non existant file and aborts:
[20:36] <lello> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-installer_11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.183 80]
[20:36] <lello> Also:
[20:36] <lello> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-downloader_11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.183 80]
[20:38] <lello> Anyone? Please, I couldn't find any report on this
[20:39] <bartman2589> lello, try adding the medibuntu repository, you can get the official adobe flashplugin that way
[20:40] <bartman2589> also gives you access to adobe reader and a bunch of the restricted packages like the ones you need to play dvd's and recode videos
[20:42] <lello> Ok bartman2589, I'll try. Thanks
[20:43] <jedix> anyone have amarok setup to share a mysql database?
[20:43] <bartman2589> I will warn you though that konqueror and kaffeine for some reason won't recognize that you have flash installed with the official plugin, possibly a handful of other programs as well, but firefox and rekonq seem to find it ok
[20:44] <Serendippo> jedix, i did, long ago, with 1.4.x
[20:44] <jedix> Serendippo: that's the only instructions I can find!
[20:44] <jedix> it's retarded.
[20:44] <Serendippo> didn't v 2.x disable the mysql option?
[20:44] <jedix> Serendippo: no
[20:44] <bartman2589> anyone know if there's a shutdown log file created by default on 11.10?  My machine has suddenly started hanging on shutdown
[20:45] <Serendippo> hm, i think they might have in the earlier versions
[20:45] <Serendippo> but it's some time ago I've fiddled with that
[20:48] <jedix> this sucks.
[20:48] <jedix> amarok used to be so good.
[20:48] <Serendippo> yeah, i much prefered the fluent spread-sheet style layout from 1.4
[20:49] <jedix> what do you use now?
[20:49] <Serendippo> well ... foobar on windows ... :|
[20:49] <Serendippo> haven't done much in linux lately, since i took up gaming.
[20:50] <Serendippo> maybe foobar through wine is an option?
[20:50] <Serendippo> i love how fast it is, even with huge music collections
[21:00] <lello> Hey bartman2589, I found I already have the Medibuntu repository in my sources. It is for Natty, though. You think I should try to put in the Oniric repository? I think it will mean some work, I couldn't find it
[21:00] <bartman2589> you're running Oneiric then right?
[21:01] <lello> No, I am running Natty and  am trying to upgrade
[21:03] <bartman2589> I'm assuming you're trying to upgrade by changing all of your existing repos to point to oneiric, did you try just doing 'sudo do-release-upgrade' from a console? might save you a lot of trouble
[21:05] <lello> No, I accepted the kind offer from Kpackage kit or whatever to upgrade. In previous upgrades it worked well...
[21:06] <lello> The thing is that the upgrade routine is looking for files (two, in fact) thar are not there.
[21:06] <bartman2589> ah, well if you can uninstall your existing flashplugin package I would then I would do the upgrade and then change medibuntu to point to the oneiric packages
[21:06] <sluckxz> my dist upgrade just hung up with moun or whatever its called
[21:08] <lello> Uninstall. Well, it's just a file or two, I suppose. I'll try right away, thanks
[21:11] <bartman2589> just figured if there's no serious dependency issues on those two files then you can uninstall them and maybe reinstall after the upgrade is finished, you'll need to go through all your old repos and change them to point to oneiric packages though since the upgrade usually disables all but official repos
[21:11] <sercan_> Does anyone know turkish
[21:13] <bartman2589> but there's a nice handy program from the folks at webupd8 that can help you re-enable your repos after the upgrade, it can even fetch any missing gpg keys and let you change the release information for the old repos so that they point to the new oneiric packages if available, it's called Y-PPA Manager, you'll need to add the webupd8 ppa after the upgrade in order to get it though
[21:18] <BluesKaj> !tk | sercan_
[21:18] <lello> Sorry bartman, I am not very proficient with IRC! I'll have to log out of #kubuntu. I'll try your hints, thanks a lot
[21:18] <BluesKaj> is it tu ty ?
[21:19] <Daskreech> !tr
[21:19] <BluesKaj> !tr | sercan_
[21:20] <sercan_> hank you for forwarding
[21:21] <sercan_> but there are very few people
[21:22] <sercan_> also could not solve the problem related to the messaging software
[21:27] <Mnmenth> hello?
[21:27] <Mnmenth> can someone help me in regards to netbooks using kubuntu
[21:28] <BluesKaj> Mnmenth, ask you question . if someone knows they will answer
[21:28] <danielo> hello everyone
[21:28] <Mnmenth> BluesKaj: Thanks
[21:29] <danielo> I get problem with kde 4.7.3
[21:29] <Mnmenth> I want to change my desktop on the netbook back to regular
[21:29] <danielo> I have actualize it
[21:29] <Mnmenth> its all weird on the netbook
[21:29] <danielo> and network manager dosent work
[21:29] <danielo> :(
[21:29] <danielo> please help
[21:30] <[VK]> Hey, can somebody please tell me how I can copy a file to usr/local/lib
[21:30] <[VK]> ??
[21:30] <Mnmenth> [VK]: cant you copy and paste?
[21:30] <[VK]> no
[21:30] <[VK]> it says Access denied or something like this
[21:31] <Mnmenth> [VK]: where is the file you are trying to move/copy?
[21:31] <danielo> hey, can anyone help me. After update to kde 4.7.3 my network manager dosent work for wirless
[21:31] <danielo> please help
[21:31] <BluesKaj> Mnmenth,  system settings>workspace behaviour>workspace>workspace type , choose desktop
[21:31] <danielo> please help
[21:32] <[VK]> /host/cg/lib/AntTweakBar/lib/
[21:32] <[VK]> and I want to copy it to usr/local/lib
[21:33] <[VK]> it's antTweakBar.so
[21:33] <BluesKaj> [VK], alt+f2 kdesudo /usr/local/lib then paste the file
[21:35] <sluckxz> sweet kde 4.7.3.  im gonna try it out.
[21:36] <danielo> Really I do not see any diference
[21:36] <[VK]> still access denied
[21:36] <danielo> but my network manager dosent work :(
[21:37] <sluckxz> bummer danielo
[21:37] <sluckxz> im hardwired.
[21:38] <danielo> ??? I dont get it????
[21:38] <danielo> what do You mean?? bummer
[21:38] <sluckxz> means that sucks,  sorry.
[21:40] <uc> hi
[21:40] <BluesKaj> [VK], open the source file using the same method
[21:41] <danielo> it dosent help :(
[21:42] <[VK]> doesn't work
[21:43] <BluesKaj> !doesn't work
[21:45] <[VK]> well it says Accsess denied
[21:45] <[VK]> I ahve looked around and found something like sudo cp
[21:45] <[VK]> if I do this it says file not found
[21:45] <danielo> My network manager dosent work after updating to kde 4.7.3>
[21:45] <danielo> I have network connection, but I cant choose wlan0 or eth0 networks.
[21:46] <[VK]> or cannot create regular file
[21:46] <sluckxz> danielo: what does iwconfig say?
[21:46] <sluckxz> [VK]: what are you trying todo?
[21:46] <danielo> oot@danielos-linux:/home/danielo# iwconfig
[21:46] <danielo> lo        no wireless extensions.
[21:46] <danielo> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[21:46] <danielo> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:"darkstar"
[21:46] <danielo>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:26:F2:60:29:74
[21:46] <danielo>           Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[21:46] <danielo>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[21:46] <danielo>           Encryption key:off
[21:46] <danielo>           Power Management:off
[21:46] <danielo>           Link Quality=68/70  Signal level=-42 dBm
[21:46] <danielo>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[21:46] <[VK]> http://www.antisphere.com/Wiki/tools:anttweakbar:download
[21:47] <danielo>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:66   Missed beacon:0
[21:47] <[VK]> I managed to compile the file and have a antTweakBar.so
[21:47] <[VK]> now I need to:
[21:47] <[VK]> Your program will be dynamically linked to libAntTweakBar.so on Linux or libAntTweakBar.dylib on OSX. To run your program, these files must have been copied to your shared libraries directory (usually /usr/local/lib/), or their path must have been added to the environment variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH on Linux and DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH on OSX.
[21:48] <[VK]> so copying it to usr/loca/lib doesn't work
[21:48] <[VK]> damn -.-
[21:48] <[VK]> forgot a / before usr
[21:49] <[VK]> anyway thanks for the help :)
[21:50] <kaddi> any news on when the msn-kopete issue will be fixed?
[21:50] <danielo> I've checked that once more and my wifi connections works fine at root user
[21:52] <BluesKaj> danielo, run sudo dhclient wlan0 for wireless connection, and sudo dhclient eth0 for wired/ethernet
[21:57] <delight> Icons that I create with the menu-editor ain't showing up anymore in the application-menu ... does anybody else experience the same in oneiric ?
[21:58] <danielo> DELIGHT I got the same problem, I can add my own apps to menu
[21:58] <delight> can or can't ?
[21:58] <danielo> I cant add
[21:58] <danielo> sorry
[21:58] <delight> no problem
[21:59] <danielo> I use playonlinux, and any of application dosent show in kmenu
[21:59] <delight> maybe its a known problem ... I'll check on launchpad ... lets see if i can find something ... I think the problem is that the editor is not creating the correct categories anymore
[21:59] <delight> in the .desktop files
[22:00] <delight> i see
[22:00] <delight> :-/ I'm still fiddling to see what the problem is ... so i guess it might be known but no workaround yet ...
[22:06] <delight> danielo: if you go into the settings of the menu editor and click on show hidding entries ... your entries should appear ... @least in the menu editor
[22:06] <delight> danielo: still searching/fiddling
[22:07] <danielo> I done this allready
[22:07] <danielo> but still nothing
[22:08] <danielo> DELIGHT>> is it working for You now???
[22:08] <delight> danielo: no :-/
[22:09] <danielo> I got those entries in kmenu editor, but when I click on kmenu I dont see them
[22:09] <delight> yes same here !
[22:09] <delight> so i guess its not only on my box ... is a box with the latest kubuntu/kde
[22:10] <danielo> try install it http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=146098
[22:10] <danielo> it is something like lancelot
[22:10] <danielo> in that i can see my Playonlinux menu apps
[22:12] <delight> thnx ...
[22:21] <sluckxz> all right 4.7.3 here i come! yeayea.
[22:27] <sluckxz> i just found out about ppa-purge pretty happy about that.
[22:28] <BluesKaj> sluckxz, you can also edit the ppas out od /etc/apt
[22:28] <BluesKaj> sources.list.d
[22:28] <BluesKaj> od=of
[22:28] <sluckxz> and then what, apt-get upgrade all? to return to stock?
[22:29]  * BluesKaj tries control the fat phingers
[22:29] <sluckxz> i find with apt i get in trouble loading up tons of stuff and would like a way back to stock.
[22:29] <BluesKaj> apt-get update works
[22:31] <BluesKaj> sluckxz, apt-only gives you what is needed for the apps you install including libs, they are all necessary
[22:31] <sluckxz> i understand that.  apt get update isnt going to revert my changes
[22:32] <BluesKaj> run apt-get autoremove and autoclean
[22:32] <sluckxz> sweet
[22:33] <BluesKaj> if you decide to remove apps and you don't want conf files left behing for future iunstall of the same app , then purge them
[22:33] <BluesKaj> future install
[22:34] <sluckxz> good info thanks BluesKaj,  might need it soon too.
[22:44] <[VK]_> Does anyone know what this means?
[22:44] <[VK]_> -Wl,-Bstatic -lAntTweakBar -lglfw \
[22:44] <[VK]_> -Wl,-Bdynamic -lGL -lGLU -lGLEW -lX11 -lXrandr
[22:44] <[VK]_> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXrandr
[22:44] <[VK]_> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[22:44] <[VK]_> especially what is lXrandr
[22:48] <Daskreech> rotation and screen direction library for X
[22:50] <[VK]_> and why can't it find it in ld?
[22:59] <kfed> Hello evryone. My Kubuntu installation was hanging for about 5 minutes - mouse cursor would move (stuck as text cursor icon), but nothing else would respond - so I did Alt+SysRq+REISUB to reboot it. Sometime in that process the image on the screen changed to random lines/colours. Now I cannot boot into Kubuntu or Windows. All I get is random colours on screen partway through boot process. In Kubuntu this is after the boot splash scree
[22:59] <kfed> I have gotten to boot to Kubuntu console, but if I startx the random colours start
[23:04] <kfed> hello anyone?
[23:06] <ikonia> yes ?
[23:07] <kfed> i wrote out problem above ^^
[23:07] <ikonia> kfed: well, if you can't boot windows or ubuntu graphically, it sounds like you may have a hardware issue
[23:09] <kfed> That is what I was thinking, but is there any way to check?
[23:09] <ikonia> think it through logically
[23:09] <Ausmosis> Hi!... Can someone advise how you enable bitmap fonts in 11.10 ?? dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig doesn't let me enable them.
[23:09] <ikonia> you have two different operating systems, that won't display graphics.....what does that say
[23:15] <kfed> is it possible to boot to minimal graphical environment that does not use video card?
[23:16] <ikonia> kfed: as soon as you get any display on screen...you are using a graphics card
[23:16] <ikonia> kfed: and to be honest, what does that matter, it's not working in BOTH OS's
[23:21] <kfed> ikonia: is text display using graphics card? because there are bugs in GRUB screen that were not there before but not at console
[23:21] <ikonia> yes
[23:22] <ikonia> kfed: anything that is displayed on a screen, is using the graphics card
[23:23] <sluckxz> kfed did you try the install disk?  i agree with ikonia sounds like hardware failure.
[23:25] <Daskreech> kfed: can You start X by itself?
[23:26] <Daskreech> Ausmosis: try alt+F2 -> fonts
[23:26] <kfed> Daskreech: How do I do that? startx? That doesn't work.
[23:26] <Daskreech> kfed: type X
[23:26] <kfed> Daskreech: Nope.
[23:27] <Daskreech> kfed: whats it do?
[23:27] <kfed> Daskreech: pink, white, & black checkerboard, flickering
[23:28] <kfed> Daskreech: there is some text output before that
[23:28] <Daskreech> kfed: What kind of video card do you have?
[23:28] <kfed> Daskreech: nVidia GeForce 8400M G, 128MB
[23:28] <Daskreech> kfed: you can alt+ctrl+F1 to get back to the terminal
[23:28] <Daskreech> kfed: check to see if its worked it's way out of the slot or if the chipset fan has stopped
[23:28] <Daskreech>  sounds like a contact or a heat issue
[23:28] <kfed> Daskreech: No I can't
[23:29] <kfed> Daskreech: I will open it up later on, but I need to get screwdrivers and static bracelet thing
[23:29] <Daskreech> kfed: sure
[23:29] <Ausmosis> Daskreech: Thanks but that still doesnt allow me to enable bitmap fonts :(
[23:31] <Daskreech> Ausmosis: what does the fontconfig reconfigure give you?
[23:32] <lsv> does anyone knows how to stop an X-session?
[23:34] <sluckxz> kfed: does it look like this? http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=90875
[23:34] <lsv> this is what I want to kill:  root      8501   885  0 16:51 tty8     00:00:03 /usr/bin/X :2 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:2 -nolisten tcp vt8 -novtswitch
[23:34] <Daskreech> lsv: logout ?
[23:34] <Ausmosis> Daskreech: basically it just goes through the process of cleaning up and Updating of the fonts. It doesn't go through the set of questions that allows me to enable bitmap fonts. In the past you could do that.
[23:36] <Daskreech> Ausmosis: try dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config ?
[23:36] <lsv> Daskreech: this is what happend.  I was on my regular account, then I switch to the Guest account.  After I was done using the Guest account I logout and returned to my usual account.  But when I do a "Ctrl + Alt + F8" I get the login screen.
[23:37] <Daskreech> lsv: how about alt+ctrl+F7 ?
[23:37] <kfed> sluckxz: Not those specifically, but that general sort of thing. Block patterns in random colours.
[23:38] <lsv> Daskreech: That's where my normal account is.
[23:38] <Ausmosis> Daskreech: Nope no go. I tried that and still doesn't work :)
[23:38] <Daskreech> lsv: ah well try sudo kill 8501
[23:38] <Daskreech> Ausmosis: boo  :)
[23:38] <sluckxz> lsv pkill ?
[23:39] <kfed> sluckxz: Reading that thread, pretty sure my card is of the type mentioned, but I just recall now that motherboard was replaced under warranty. Presumably same kind as original, but not certain without opening it up and having a look
[23:39] <lsv> I did that the first time and I just restarted.  You see the 2 "/usr/bin/X :2 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:2" it used to be a :1
[23:39] <sluckxz> yea sorry man.  i would try opening it up though
[23:39] <Daskreech> Ausmosis: do you have a /etc/fonts ?
[23:39] <Ausmosis> lol... Yep. Oh well maybe they took the feature away. I've moved away from Gnome and only recently started using KDE but the method shuold still be the same.
[23:39] <Daskreech> lsv: Yes it's on the second display
[23:40] <Ausmosis> yep I have /etc/fonts
[23:40] <Daskreech> Ausmosis: conf.d ?
[23:41] <Ausmosis> yep
[23:41] <lsv> Daskreech: I just restarted
[23:42] <Ausmosis> This is what you could do in the past http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-artwiz-fonts-in-ubuntu.html
[23:42] <lsv> I think I need to stop lightdm...
[23:45] <lsv> Oh well, it's not that important. Thanks :D
[23:48] <Daskreech> lsv: service ldm stop
[23:48] <Daskreech> if you used ldm to login though that might kill X
[23:55] <lsv> Daskreech: is there any way to stop just one?