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cjohnstonits too quiet in here today00:28
nigelbcjohnston: Its a holiday, isn't it?00:28
cjohnstonya.. i always forget that stuff.. but its still quiet00:28
cjohnstonjono: the work items are available for this cycle on status.u.c - http://goo.gl/NfMA8  if you want to change the topic to reflect :-)00:39
jonothanks cjohnston!00:43
cjohnstonnp00:43
cjohnstonhttps://splendidbacon.com  lol...01:21
macoNigelb: not a real holiday. Don't get the day off work, and it's not holy, so neither definition fits03:26
macoIt's just tiny writing on the calendar, if you still own one03:26
cjohnstonif thats the case memorial and labor day arent real holidays.. i dont get them off03:28
macoMemorial day and labor day just determine whether fashion-conscious people wear white jeans03:30
macoThough I think those are days off for most jobs. today's only off for federal employees as far as I can tell03:31
macoAnd according to what the tea party keeps telling me, federal employees aren't real people and their jobs don't matter03:32
cprofittI had the day off from work04:02
alouriegood morning05:27
doctormo-otherHey alourie09:43
alouriehey Martin09:44
alouriehow are you today?09:44
doctormo-otheralourie: A little tired, but still enjoying the curry I had last night.09:46
alourieoh :-)09:46
doctormo-otherHow about yourself?09:46
alourieah09:46
alouriewe had a nice trip after 3 poets yesterday, it was very cool :-)09:47
alouries/after/about/09:47
alourieand now I'm a little sick09:47
alouriegood thing is that my son is OK though09:47
doctormo-otherAre poets unhealthy?09:48
alourie:-)09:48
alouriethey are dead by now09:49
alourieok, my coffee is ready, going to heal myself now09:50
alourietalk to you later, and get rest09:50
alourieit gets easier :-)09:51
doctormo-otherHmm, your poets are dead, did you kill them? Was it an Agatha Cristy type thing?09:51
* doctormo-other is confused09:51
alouriedoctormo-other: no, ...09:53
alourieit was a local tour themed after 3 poets09:53
alouriethey are dead for some time now,09:54
doctormo-otherAh, ok. Enjoy your coffee and present tense :-D09:54
alouriethanks09:54
alouriesorry, my English is not clear right now09:54
=== cypher_ is now known as czajkowski
cjohnstonhey ScottL16:12
ScottLhi cjohnston16:26
ScottLthanks for fixing my typos on the blueprintgs16:27
ScottLoops blueprints16:27
ScottLcjohnston, i didn't realize you were as involved with the release process16:27
cjohnstonlol16:28
cjohnstonScottL: im involved in a whole lot.. and nothing.. and i didnt realize that either16:28
ScottLoh yeah, i remember when i met you with randall that you said you were involved with a little bit of everything16:29
cjohnstonheh16:29
cjohnstonmaybe i had too much to drink that night and got involved in the release process?16:30
ScottLhey, i wanted to say that i really enjoyed meeting you and your wife, i really enjoyed the conversation16:30
ScottLlol, maybe you did! ;)16:30
cjohnstonall i remember talking about was IRSSI and your daughter called.. but i wasnt drunk, so im not sure why i dont remember what else we talked about16:31
cjohnstonmhall119: wave16:32
mhall119no16:32
cjohnston:`-(16:32
mhall119lol16:32
mhall119have fun16:33
cjohnstonthanks16:33
ScottLcjohnston, we talked about quite a few things, but i mainly just wanted to point out that i'm glad i got a chance to met you16:34
cjohnston:-)16:34
cjohnstonI always love meeting new people and putting faces with the names16:34
cjohnstonI liked your blog post too.. about getting out and talking to people and what not16:35
cjohnstonuds is a very special thing imoo16:35
cjohnstonimo16:35
ScottLi was very special to me, i met so many incredible people...and thank you for the compliment about my blog16:36
mhall119cjohnston: be sure to take them by the stingray tank16:36
cjohnstonwill do mhall11916:36
ScottLi tend to speak honestly and openly about stuff16:37
ScottLmy blog reflects that i suppose16:37
ScottLbut i feel extremely fortunate to have gone, to met the people i did, and to be more included on the process, especially the blueprints and release process16:37
ScottLi feel like this is a good first step for making ubuntu studio THE #1 multimedia-centric distro16:38
ScottLi've been developing a plan that will probably span 2-3 years to improve ubuntu studio and engage new audiences16:38
ScottLand working with the blueprints is right in line with all of this, serendipitous actually :)16:39
cjohnstonwhat you said about the 'unworthyness' and then all of a sudden it all 'clicked' is a very true feeling16:39
cjohnstonill just be around to bug you when your BPs start spamming me ;-)16:40
ScottLcjohnston, i mean that part!  really, really meant it16:40
cjohnstoni was there a few cycles ago16:41
ScottLubuntu studio has been outside the loop for a long, long time and i didn't understand what was going on or how to get involved16:41
ScottLi didn't understand how to "officially" or properly make things better16:41
ScottLand seriously thought that i didn't fit or belong for a while16:41
ScottLnot that i don't share the love of fl/oss or believe, but everyone else seemed like they were already involved in a secret club and i didn't know the handshake :P16:42
cjohnstonThen it all 'clicked'.. then everyone met Hope and now im just there to answer the question "Where's Hope?"16:42
ScottLyeah :)16:42
ScottLtalking with kate was the real pivotal point16:43
ScottLerr, pivot point16:43
ScottLit was tangible, it hooked into the things i already knew, and suddenly i found my place within the community :)16:43
cjohnstonya..16:43
cjohnstonI met her in Budapest in May.. She is a really great resource to have.16:44
cjohnstonMeeting her in Budapest is where status.ubuntu.com came from ScottL16:45
ScottLi think status.ubuntu.com is freaking awesome!  especially the team pages16:45
PendulumI really like status.ubuntu.com16:46
pleia2I envy you non-shy people :)16:46
Pendulumalthough I'm a little freaked that I've become approver for a whole set of blueprints ;-)16:46
Pendulumpleia2: I agree with you there!16:46
pleia2ScottL: thank you for introducing yourself, it was very nice to meet you :)16:46
cjohnstonpleia2: i never would have guessed you were shy meeting you at UDS... but I guess we also did have a friendship on IRC so it was a little better16:47
pleia2cjohnston: yeah, I can only talk to non-intimidating people I know :)16:47
mhall119pleia2 is shy?16:47
cjohnstonPendulum: make sure that yours are all in order, otherwise I'll come hunting you too :-P jk16:47
cjohnstonmhall119: I wouldnt ahve guessed16:47
* cjohnston isnt intimidating? :-(16:48
mhall119no16:48
pleia2cjohnston: it's a compliment!16:48
ScottLpleia2, it was my pleasure!  i didn't think you were shy16:48
cjohnstonlol16:48
mhall119cjohnston: now Hope on the other hand..16:48
ScottLsometimes it is enjoyable to simply sit next to a person16:48
Pendulumcjohnston: kate did that I think when she created the blueprint that she used to link everything for status (I had no idea she was doing it until it was done which is part of why I'm still a little confused about becoming approver ;-) )16:48
cjohnstonmhall119: you never posted about the party16:49
mhall119at UDS-N, Valorie told me she made a point to eat lunch every day with people she didn't know, just to meet new folks16:49
mhall119I tried to do that this time, but cjohnston always wanted to talk about summit :(16:49
pleia2lol16:49
mhall119cjohnston: I'm waiting for pics from itnet716:49
cjohnstonmhall119: when your only around for one hour a day...16:49
* Pendulum is far too shy to manage what valorie did16:49
ScottLPendulum, i also am happy that i got a chance to met you as well :)16:49
pleia2Pendulum: yeah, I just found you and czajkowski and sat with you :)16:50
PendulumScottL: thanks for introducing yourself!16:50
mhall119Pendulum: here's a secret I learned: 99% of the people at UDS are more shy than you16:50
Pendulumpleia2: I looked for czajkowski or Martyn or maco16:50
ScottLPendulum, i'm very glad i did :)16:50
cjohnstonmhall119: i dont know that id say 99.. but probably 9016:50
cjohnstonthere are a number of very outgoing folks there16:50
PendulumI can talk to people who look more shy than I feel, but that's hard to find16:51
PendulumI think everyone I've met at UDS who I didn't already know well is someone who has come up to me first16:51
mhall119cjohnston: only 90% are more shy than you16:51
cjohnstonim not very shy16:52
mhall119ok, 91%16:52
cjohnstonlol16:52
pleia2lol16:53
nigelbcjohnston is 1%?16:55
nigelbJane's session looks amazing16:56
pleia2yeah :)16:57
cjohnston616:57
cjohnstonuggh16:57
mhall119cjohnston is the 1%, I say we go protest in his driveway17:06
cjohnstonok17:06
JanCnigelb: indeed17:06
nigelbmhall119: haha17:07
* JanC remembers at UDS in La Hulpe I first started to talk to Pendulum because she was easiest to recognize (being in a wheelchair), then later met pleia2, czajkowski, AlanBell, and others... ☺17:12
MartynHeh17:27
MartynTrue!17:27
Martynmind you, everyone else in that list is also awfully hard to confuse with anyone else17:28
MartynIt's not like Alan blends into the crowd and dissapears :)17:28
* AlanBell is like a ninja17:37
MartynHA!17:50
nigelbClearly, he won't clear security with the sword and the Shuriken ;)17:51
Martynwell, he's a ninja .. he doesn't need them.  He can make them out of thin air, using nothing but ice condensed from his breath, a small bamboo stick, and some pennies17:52
nigelbYou're confusing Ninja with MacGyver :P17:52
MartynWell, no .. but I might be confusing it with MythBusters Ninjas :)17:53
nigelb(Clear, I've been watching too much MacGyver ;) )17:53
nigelbHaha, true.17:53
* JanC seems to remember MacGyver is some old TV series?17:56
nigelbYup17:57
Pendulumwait, did I somehow invoke Martyn just by mentioning him in here?17:58
nigelbheh17:59
MartynI am invoked!17:59
Martynuse Hacker::Martyn17:59
Pendulumheh17:59
nigelbhaha17:59
* czajkowski yawns evening 18:01
popeyjussi / AlanBell that survey... how do you go back? there's a next button but no back button18:11
popeyyou have to 'exit and clear' to go back it seems?18:11
* AlanBell turns on the show prev button18:19
popeyhttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html19:45
popeythat looks like a license violation right there19:46
popeydistributing a binary blob of a compiz plugin?19:46
popey(libunityshell.so which is part of the unity package)19:48
popeyah yes, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html#comment-34748831219:49
AlanBellif it is accompanied by a written offer to provide source code on request it isn't a violation19:50
mhall119popey: technically yes, but if he just released it publically let's give him time to clean up the code19:50
AlanBellsounds like he is trying to figure out launchpad or something19:51
popeymhall119: define "just"19:51
popeywhat worries me more is that people are happy to grab a binary blob from a random dropbox account and use that as their desktop shell19:53
mhall119popey: sounds like a recent release19:53
popeymhall119: 21st oct19:53
mhall119popey: agreed on that point19:53
mhall119popey: so less than a month19:53
mhall119I mean, he's not exactly refusing to release code, or intending to keep it closed19:54
mhall119if he wants to clean it up before he releases it, and as long as it doesn't take him too long to do so, I don't think it's worth making a fuss over19:55
mhall119it might help spur him on if you say you want to try it, but not without seeing the source19:55
AlanBellif you ask in russian19:55
popeyheh19:56
AlanBellhttp://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu.ru%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D171694.45&act=url20:01
Davieyhttp://k.wigflip.com/s9idyGEq/wigflip-saywhat.jpg20:20
AlanBellhttp://i.imgur.com/JTeTq.gif20:24
Daviey:D20:25
AlanBellhow are things in Davieyland?20:26
DavieyAlanBell: Things are pretty good!  I do think i overdid it last week, body still hurting20:26
* Pendulum hugs Daviey 20:26
DavieyAlanBell: yourself, fine sir?20:27
Davieyhey Pendulum20:27
AlanBelloh I am fine20:28
AlanBellwe should do a happy hour in your area Daviey20:28
DavieyAlanBell: My area will soon become Hampshire, i think.20:29
AlanBellooh exciting20:29
alourieOh google20:29
AlanBellwe have a no flat caps rule here20:29
alourieit's russian is so funny20:29
DavieyAlanBell: I was in a Devon Morrisions earlier today (other supermarkets are avaliable), and someone walked up to me and asked if I was involved with Ubuntu.20:30
alourieAlanBell: ^^ than translation is quite funny too20:30
DavieyWas kinda suprised he recognised my face from $somewhere.20:30
Pendulumaww20:30
AlanBellalourie: yeah it is a bit messy, but a *lot* better than nothing20:30
DavieyAlanBell: erk, that might be a blocker.20:30
DavieyAlanBell: I have been flat cap window shopping recently.20:31
DavieyAlanBell: If that is the case, i'm getting a fez.20:32
Martynfezzes are cool20:32
AlanBellI think a fez would be fine20:33
JanCDaviey: you weren't wearing an Ubuntu shirt or something?   ;)20:33
DavieyJanC: embarrassingly, i was - but it was covered by a jumper.20:34
JanCheh20:34
JanCjust because I had somebody walk up to me at a music festival in May, who saw my Ubuntu t-shirt and came to tell me he used & loved Ubuntu too  ☺20:35
Daviey:)20:36
JanC(unfortunately he wasn't interested in joining the locoteam)20:36
Davieymaybe it was the Ubuntu tattoo I have on my forehead that gave it away?20:36
JanCeh20:36
Daviey(I'm not being serious.)20:37
popeyheh20:48
PendulumDaviey: obviously the circle of friends is in your aura :P20:49
popeybloke in my local co-op kept staring at my hardy heron t-shirt, eventually said 'where do I know that from?' I said 'your desktop?' 'Ohhh yeah!'20:49
AlanBellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dox2nQ3eabg21:06
mhall119popey: lol21:11

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