[00:28] <cjohnston> its too quiet in here today
[00:28] <nigelb> cjohnston: Its a holiday, isn't it?
[00:28] <cjohnston> ya.. i always forget that stuff.. but its still quiet
[00:39] <cjohnston> jono: the work items are available for this cycle on status.u.c - http://goo.gl/NfMA8  if you want to change the topic to reflect :-)
[00:43] <jono> thanks cjohnston!
[00:43] <cjohnston> np
[01:21] <cjohnston> https://splendidbacon.com  lol...
[03:26] <maco> Nigelb: not a real holiday. Don't get the day off work, and it's not holy, so neither definition fits
[03:26] <maco> It's just tiny writing on the calendar, if you still own one
[03:28] <cjohnston> if thats the case memorial and labor day arent real holidays.. i dont get them off
[03:30] <maco> Memorial day and labor day just determine whether fashion-conscious people wear white jeans
[03:31] <maco> Though I think those are days off for most jobs. today's only off for federal employees as far as I can tell
[03:32] <maco> And according to what the tea party keeps telling me, federal employees aren't real people and their jobs don't matter
[04:02] <cprofitt> I had the day off from work
[05:27] <alourie> good morning
[09:43] <doctormo-other> Hey alourie
[09:44] <alourie> hey Martin
[09:44] <alourie> how are you today?
[09:46] <doctormo-other> alourie: A little tired, but still enjoying the curry I had last night.
[09:46] <alourie> oh :-)
[09:46] <doctormo-other> How about yourself?
[09:46] <alourie> ah
[09:47] <alourie> we had a nice trip after 3 poets yesterday, it was very cool :-)
[09:47] <alourie> s/after/about/
[09:47] <alourie> and now I'm a little sick
[09:47] <alourie> good thing is that my son is OK though
[09:48] <doctormo-other> Are poets unhealthy?
[09:48] <alourie> :-)
[09:49] <alourie> they are dead by now
[09:50] <alourie> ok, my coffee is ready, going to heal myself now
[09:50] <alourie> talk to you later, and get rest
[09:51] <alourie> it gets easier :-)
[09:51] <doctormo-other> Hmm, your poets are dead, did you kill them? Was it an Agatha Cristy type thing?
[09:51]  * doctormo-other is confused
[09:53] <alourie> doctormo-other: no, ...
[09:53] <alourie> it was a local tour themed after 3 poets
[09:54] <alourie> they are dead for some time now,
[09:54] <doctormo-other> Ah, ok. Enjoy your coffee and present tense :-D
[09:54] <alourie> thanks
[09:54] <alourie> sorry, my English is not clear right now
[16:12] <cjohnston> hey ScottL
[16:26] <ScottL> hi cjohnston
[16:27] <ScottL> thanks for fixing my typos on the blueprintgs
[16:27] <ScottL> oops blueprints
[16:27] <ScottL> cjohnston, i didn't realize you were as involved with the release process
[16:28] <cjohnston> lol
[16:28] <cjohnston> ScottL: im involved in a whole lot.. and nothing.. and i didnt realize that either
[16:29] <ScottL> oh yeah, i remember when i met you with randall that you said you were involved with a little bit of everything
[16:29] <cjohnston> heh
[16:30] <cjohnston> maybe i had too much to drink that night and got involved in the release process?
[16:30] <ScottL> hey, i wanted to say that i really enjoyed meeting you and your wife, i really enjoyed the conversation
[16:30] <ScottL> lol, maybe you did! ;)
[16:31] <cjohnston> all i remember talking about was IRSSI and your daughter called.. but i wasnt drunk, so im not sure why i dont remember what else we talked about
[16:32] <cjohnston> mhall119: wave
[16:32] <mhall119> no
[16:32] <cjohnston> :`-(
[16:32] <mhall119> lol
[16:33] <mhall119> have fun
[16:33] <cjohnston> thanks
[16:34] <ScottL> cjohnston, we talked about quite a few things, but i mainly just wanted to point out that i'm glad i got a chance to met you
[16:34] <cjohnston> :-)
[16:34] <cjohnston> I always love meeting new people and putting faces with the names
[16:35] <cjohnston> I liked your blog post too.. about getting out and talking to people and what not
[16:35] <cjohnston> uds is a very special thing imoo
[16:35] <cjohnston> imo
[16:36] <ScottL> i was very special to me, i met so many incredible people...and thank you for the compliment about my blog
[16:36] <mhall119> cjohnston: be sure to take them by the stingray tank
[16:36] <cjohnston> will do mhall119
[16:37] <ScottL> i tend to speak honestly and openly about stuff
[16:37] <ScottL> my blog reflects that i suppose
[16:37] <ScottL> but i feel extremely fortunate to have gone, to met the people i did, and to be more included on the process, especially the blueprints and release process
[16:38] <ScottL> i feel like this is a good first step for making ubuntu studio THE #1 multimedia-centric distro
[16:38] <ScottL> i've been developing a plan that will probably span 2-3 years to improve ubuntu studio and engage new audiences
[16:39] <ScottL> and working with the blueprints is right in line with all of this, serendipitous actually :)
[16:39] <cjohnston> what you said about the 'unworthyness' and then all of a sudden it all 'clicked' is a very true feeling
[16:40] <cjohnston> ill just be around to bug you when your BPs start spamming me ;-)
[16:40] <ScottL> cjohnston, i mean that part!  really, really meant it
[16:41] <cjohnston> i was there a few cycles ago
[16:41] <ScottL> ubuntu studio has been outside the loop for a long, long time and i didn't understand what was going on or how to get involved
[16:41] <ScottL> i didn't understand how to "officially" or properly make things better
[16:41] <ScottL> and seriously thought that i didn't fit or belong for a while
[16:42] <ScottL> not that i don't share the love of fl/oss or believe, but everyone else seemed like they were already involved in a secret club and i didn't know the handshake :P
[16:42] <cjohnston> Then it all 'clicked'.. then everyone met Hope and now im just there to answer the question "Where's Hope?"
[16:42] <ScottL> yeah :)
[16:43] <ScottL> talking with kate was the real pivotal point
[16:43] <ScottL> err, pivot point
[16:43] <ScottL> it was tangible, it hooked into the things i already knew, and suddenly i found my place within the community :)
[16:43] <cjohnston> ya..
[16:44] <cjohnston> I met her in Budapest in May.. She is a really great resource to have.
[16:45] <cjohnston> Meeting her in Budapest is where status.ubuntu.com came from ScottL
[16:45] <ScottL> i think status.ubuntu.com is freaking awesome!  especially the team pages
[16:46] <Pendulum> I really like status.ubuntu.com
[16:46] <pleia2> I envy you non-shy people :)
[16:46] <Pendulum> although I'm a little freaked that I've become approver for a whole set of blueprints ;-)
[16:46] <Pendulum> pleia2: I agree with you there!
[16:46] <pleia2> ScottL: thank you for introducing yourself, it was very nice to meet you :)
[16:47] <cjohnston> pleia2: i never would have guessed you were shy meeting you at UDS... but I guess we also did have a friendship on IRC so it was a little better
[16:47] <pleia2> cjohnston: yeah, I can only talk to non-intimidating people I know :)
[16:47] <mhall119> pleia2 is shy?
[16:47] <cjohnston> Pendulum: make sure that yours are all in order, otherwise I'll come hunting you too :-P jk
[16:47] <cjohnston> mhall119: I wouldnt ahve guessed
[16:48]  * cjohnston isnt intimidating? :-(
[16:48] <mhall119> no
[16:48] <pleia2> cjohnston: it's a compliment!
[16:48] <ScottL> pleia2, it was my pleasure!  i didn't think you were shy
[16:48] <cjohnston> lol
[16:48] <mhall119> cjohnston: now Hope on the other hand..
[16:48] <ScottL> sometimes it is enjoyable to simply sit next to a person
[16:48] <Pendulum> cjohnston: kate did that I think when she created the blueprint that she used to link everything for status (I had no idea she was doing it until it was done which is part of why I'm still a little confused about becoming approver ;-) )
[16:49] <cjohnston> mhall119: you never posted about the party
[16:49] <mhall119> at UDS-N, Valorie told me she made a point to eat lunch every day with people she didn't know, just to meet new folks
[16:49] <mhall119> I tried to do that this time, but cjohnston always wanted to talk about summit :(
[16:49] <pleia2> lol
[16:49] <mhall119> cjohnston: I'm waiting for pics from itnet7
[16:49] <cjohnston> mhall119: when your only around for one hour a day...
[16:49]  * Pendulum is far too shy to manage what valorie did
[16:49] <ScottL> Pendulum, i also am happy that i got a chance to met you as well :)
[16:50] <pleia2> Pendulum: yeah, I just found you and czajkowski and sat with you :)
[16:50] <Pendulum> ScottL: thanks for introducing yourself!
[16:50] <mhall119> Pendulum: here's a secret I learned: 99% of the people at UDS are more shy than you
[16:50] <Pendulum> pleia2: I looked for czajkowski or Martyn or maco
[16:50] <ScottL> Pendulum, i'm very glad i did :)
[16:50] <cjohnston> mhall119: i dont know that id say 99.. but probably 90
[16:50] <cjohnston> there are a number of very outgoing folks there
[16:51] <Pendulum> I can talk to people who look more shy than I feel, but that's hard to find
[16:51] <Pendulum> I think everyone I've met at UDS who I didn't already know well is someone who has come up to me first
[16:51] <mhall119> cjohnston: only 90% are more shy than you
[16:52] <cjohnston> im not very shy
[16:52] <mhall119> ok, 91%
[16:52] <cjohnston> lol
[16:53] <pleia2> lol
[16:55] <nigelb> cjohnston is 1%?
[16:56] <nigelb> Jane's session looks amazing
[16:57] <pleia2> yeah :)
[16:57] <cjohnston> 6
[16:57] <cjohnston> uggh
[17:06] <mhall119> cjohnston is the 1%, I say we go protest in his driveway
[17:06] <cjohnston> ok
[17:06] <JanC> nigelb: indeed
[17:07] <nigelb> mhall119: haha
[17:12]  * JanC remembers at UDS in La Hulpe I first started to talk to Pendulum because she was easiest to recognize (being in a wheelchair), then later met pleia2, czajkowski, AlanBell, and others...  ☺
[17:27] <Martyn> Heh
[17:27] <Martyn> True!
[17:28] <Martyn> mind you, everyone else in that list is also awfully hard to confuse with anyone else
[17:28] <Martyn> It's not like Alan blends into the crowd and dissapears :)
[17:37]  * AlanBell is like a ninja
[17:50] <Martyn> HA!
[17:51] <nigelb> Clearly, he won't clear security with the sword and the Shuriken ;)
[17:52] <Martyn> well, he's a ninja .. he doesn't need them.  He can make them out of thin air, using nothing but ice condensed from his breath, a small bamboo stick, and some pennies
[17:52] <nigelb> You're confusing Ninja with MacGyver :P
[17:53] <Martyn> Well, no .. but I might be confusing it with MythBusters Ninjas :)
[17:53] <nigelb> (Clear, I've been watching too much MacGyver ;) )
[17:53] <nigelb> Haha, true.
[17:56]  * JanC seems to remember MacGyver is some old TV series?
[17:57] <nigelb> Yup
[17:58] <Pendulum> wait, did I somehow invoke Martyn just by mentioning him in here?
[17:59] <nigelb> heh
[17:59] <Martyn> I am invoked!
[17:59] <Martyn> use Hacker::Martyn
[17:59] <Pendulum> heh
[17:59] <nigelb> haha
[18:01]  * czajkowski yawns  evening 
[18:11] <popey> jussi / AlanBell that survey... how do you go back? there's a next button but no back button
[18:11] <popey> you have to 'exit and clear' to go back it seems?
[18:19]  * AlanBell turns on the show prev button
[19:45] <popey> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[19:46] <popey> that looks like a license violation right there
[19:46] <popey> distributing a binary blob of a compiz plugin?
[19:48] <popey> (libunityshell.so which is part of the unity package)
[19:49] <popey> ah yes, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html#comment-347488312
[19:50] <AlanBell> if it is accompanied by a written offer to provide source code on request it isn't a violation
[19:50] <mhall119> popey: technically yes, but if he just released it publically let's give him time to clean up the code
[19:51] <AlanBell> sounds like he is trying to figure out launchpad or something
[19:51] <popey> mhall119: define "just"
[19:53] <popey> what worries me more is that people are happy to grab a binary blob from a random dropbox account and use that as their desktop shell
[19:53] <mhall119> popey: sounds like a recent release
[19:53] <popey> mhall119: 21st oct
[19:53] <mhall119> popey: agreed on that point
[19:53] <mhall119> popey: so less than a month
[19:54] <mhall119> I mean, he's not exactly refusing to release code, or intending to keep it closed
[19:55] <mhall119> if he wants to clean it up before he releases it, and as long as it doesn't take him too long to do so, I don't think it's worth making a fuss over
[19:55] <mhall119> it might help spur him on if you say you want to try it, but not without seeing the source
[19:55] <AlanBell> if you ask in russian
[19:56] <popey> heh
[20:01] <AlanBell> http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu.ru%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D171694.45&act=url
[20:20] <Daviey> http://k.wigflip.com/s9idyGEq/wigflip-saywhat.jpg
[20:24] <AlanBell> http://i.imgur.com/JTeTq.gif
[20:25] <Daviey> :D
[20:26] <AlanBell> how are things in Davieyland?
[20:26] <Daviey> AlanBell: Things are pretty good!  I do think i overdid it last week, body still hurting
[20:26]  * Pendulum hugs Daviey 
[20:27] <Daviey> AlanBell: yourself, fine sir?
[20:27] <Daviey> hey Pendulum
[20:28] <AlanBell> oh I am fine
[20:28] <AlanBell> we should do a happy hour in your area Daviey
[20:29] <Daviey> AlanBell: My area will soon become Hampshire, i think.
[20:29] <AlanBell> ooh exciting
[20:29] <alourie> Oh google
[20:29] <AlanBell> we have a no flat caps rule here
[20:29] <alourie> it's russian is so funny
[20:30] <Daviey> AlanBell: I was in a Devon Morrisions earlier today (other supermarkets are avaliable), and someone walked up to me and asked if I was involved with Ubuntu.
[20:30] <alourie> AlanBell: ^^ than translation is quite funny too
[20:30] <Daviey> Was kinda suprised he recognised my face from $somewhere.
[20:30] <Pendulum> aww
[20:30] <AlanBell> alourie: yeah it is a bit messy, but a *lot* better than nothing
[20:30] <Daviey> AlanBell: erk, that might be a blocker.
[20:31] <Daviey> AlanBell: I have been flat cap window shopping recently.
[20:32] <Daviey> AlanBell: If that is the case, i'm getting a fez.
[20:32] <Martyn> fezzes are cool
[20:33] <AlanBell> I think a fez would be fine
[20:33] <JanC> Daviey: you weren't wearing an Ubuntu shirt or something?   ;)
[20:34] <Daviey> JanC: embarrassingly, i was - but it was covered by a jumper.
[20:34] <JanC> heh
[20:35] <JanC> just because I had somebody walk up to me at a music festival in May, who saw my Ubuntu t-shirt and came to tell me he used & loved Ubuntu too  ☺
[20:36] <Daviey> :)
[20:36] <JanC> (unfortunately he wasn't interested in joining the locoteam)
[20:36] <Daviey> maybe it was the Ubuntu tattoo I have on my forehead that gave it away?
[20:36] <JanC> eh
[20:37] <Daviey> (I'm not being serious.)
[20:48] <popey> heh
[20:49] <Pendulum> Daviey: obviously the circle of friends is in your aura :P
[20:49] <popey> bloke in my local co-op kept staring at my hardy heron t-shirt, eventually said 'where do I know that from?' I said 'your desktop?' 'Ohhh yeah!'
[21:06] <AlanBell> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dox2nQ3eabg
[21:11] <mhall119> popey: lol