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| topyli | ircc meeting? | 11:02 |
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| elky | only the two of us | 11:02 |
| Unit193 | I hope so... | 11:02 |
| elky | jussi can't make it apparently | 11:02 |
| topyli | so, no quorum. well, we can review action items and discuss new ones | 11:02 |
| LjL | oops it's saturday already | 11:03 |
| topyli | we have new bugs, due to us trying to push things more into the public. https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council | 11:04 |
| elky | both the new bugs are against jussi, and i believe we've both put our thoughts against them | 11:04 |
| LjL | i tried to add the item yesterday, but wiki wouldn't let me login | 11:04 |
| topyli | LjL: we can discuss it under "other issues" :) | 11:04 |
| topyli | i like the idea of putting stuff in launchpad when possible | 11:05 |
| topyli | not sure if we should go into specific bugs here, just note that they're there | 11:05 |
| elky | the bugs provide a way to discuss there, so i see no reason to hash stuff out here | 11:06 |
| topyli | aye | 11:06 |
| elky | plus, i want to go to bed before too long | 11:07 |
| elky | i actually went and got into bed because i was falling asleep, then had to get up because i remembered the meeting :( | 11:07 |
| topyli | there's an action item for me that i have not done. i have been a bit uncertain if it's time to do it, but i suppose it is according to last meeting's minutes. sorry about this, will do it asap | 11:08 |
| topyli | (opening up the #lubuntu call for ops) | 11:08 |
| elky | yeah, you should probably do that | 11:09 |
| topyli | yes | 11:09 |
| topyli | another thing undone was review of m4v's guidelines draft. we have done this, let me find | 11:09 |
| topyli | http://notes.kde.org/ubuntuguidelines | 11:10 |
| elky | idleone has somethign on the agenda which we could discuss preliminarily, but he appears offline | 11:10 |
| topyli | m4v has also fixed a couple of problems there | 11:10 |
| topyli | elky: yes, there are different opinions on that, would be nice to have both him and flannel | 11:11 |
| topyli | generally, i like the basic suggestion that quiets should always be timed and auto-removed | 11:12 |
| topyli | LjL: would you like to bring up your issue? | 11:13 |
| LjL | ok | 11:13 |
| elky | is there a way to have per-action-type rules like that? | 11:13 |
| topyli | elky: technically, no idea. socially, we can encourage it :) | 11:14 |
| LjL | i was thinking that we should probably inform all users about the appeals process when they are banned. i think the best way to achieve that would be having a bot do it automatically. | 11:14 |
| LjL | we could also put that to our advantage by including information like "Please remember that if you come to #ubuntu-ops to discuss your ban, you're supposed to be civil, calm and respectful, otherwise it will only result in your being removed from there" | 11:15 |
| LjL | so we don't have to warn users again and again when they join there | 11:15 |
| topyli | this way, users would at least know about -ops | 11:15 |
| elky | could be useful, but it should ignore floodbots of course | 11:16 |
| LjL | well the floodbots could be the ones doing it in the first place, trivial to add | 11:17 |
| topyli | i would support that. it would improve users' awareness of how to get unbanned, and with a little added information they would also know how to behave in -ops | 11:19 |
| topyli | the floodbots themselves are problematic though, can another bot do it? | 11:21 |
| topyli | problem being they depend on a single person and are not free software | 11:22 |
| elky | ubottu already has the code to harass us, should be trivial there too | 11:22 |
| ubottu | elky: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:22 |
| elky | don't worry, we know you're not. | 11:22 |
| topyli | thanks for the reminder ubottu | 11:22 |
| topyli | we can't decide right now anyway. we should discuss this and add it to the next meeting's agenda for decision making | 11:24 |
| topyli | maybe file a bug. it's fashionable again! :) | 11:25 |
| topyli | anything else? | 11:27 |
| elky | don't think so | 11:27 |
| topyli | i can write up a little summary to replace official minutes, so we can continue on the mailing list | 11:28 |
| topyli | and so we won't forget what we talked about | 11:28 |
| elky | that's what channel logs are for | 11:28 |
| topyli | i think it's still good to send mail to point people to read said logs | 11:29 |
| Unit193 | Just can't read meetingology logs/minutes this time | 11:29 |
| topyli | Unit193: i'll try and sum up in the mail, and logs exist at irclogs.ubuntu.com too | 11:30 |
| Unit193 | Yes sir | 11:31 |
| topyli | heh | 11:33 |
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