[01:09] [Jono Bacon] QA Community Coordinator Required: Apply Within - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/11/12/qa-community-coordinator-required-apply-within/ [02:41] Morning :-) [02:43] Exciting channel this lol [02:44] Hello LinuxMobile [02:44] Hey baw [02:44] LinuxMobile: It's about 02:44 in the UK. [02:44] LinuxMobile: I imagine people are sleeping. [02:44] Im aware of that. Why tell me [02:45] I imagine then drunk and cycle ball. I guess we cant know [02:45] But we are active [02:46] You. Ball :-) [02:47] Just had bacon roll. Nom [02:47] * ball is confused [02:48] Ball, you mentioned me, thought you would like to chat? [02:48] Confused about bacon? Lol [02:48] I was confused by the "drunk and cycle" [02:48] no idea what that's all about. [02:48] Im mobile. Excuse me. [02:48] Drunk and awake :-) [02:50] Well ride carefully then, I don't want you falling in a ditch. [02:50] I thought IRC was for chat? [02:51] IRC is for community. [02:51] ...and the occasional fight, depending on the channel in question. [02:52] Oh. I dont want to fight? [02:52] Just pass time with like mind [02:59] LinuxMobile: This isn't one of the fighty channels. [03:00] I have to go [03:04] I found active. Thanks === MichealH is now known as MH0 [08:45] LinuxMobile: hi [08:45] morning all [09:10] Morning [09:18] what exciting saturdayish things are you all up to today then? [09:18] and who wants to do the December Happy Hour? [09:19] where "do" consists of picking a date and a pub and turning up [09:21] AlanBell: well I'm getting confused by apache's apparent inability to follow LANG settings [09:21] having some really good coffee [09:21] and planning on cycling over to the shops in a few minutes [09:22] AlanBell: Looking at the support queue and trying to put off getting to work a few more minutes [09:24] anyone here good at apache and locales? [09:24] Open day at the kids school [09:25] http://www.gjcp.net/smash/ <- I wrote this but it occasionally falls on its backside because it tries to format the currency with the locale set to "C" [09:25] I suspect a race condition somewhere in apache or mod_python === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === cypher_ is now known as czajkowski [10:25] good morning everyone. [10:28] morning, brobostigon [10:29] morning sagaci [10:29] morning :) [10:30] Moring [10:32] aloha [10:32] AlanBell: sort out your chicken issue [10:41] morning [10:58] today is the day of my first foray into home brewing [10:59] yummy Laney, good luck, :) [11:07] czajkowski: yes [11:08] AlanBell: coolio as I know someone who was going to help [11:10] czajkowski: last I saw, he was alive and in a box [11:11] cool [11:12] Hello [12:36] AlanBell: December Happy Hour me want do [12:36] Laney: what 'degree' of brewing? Kit/full mash/malt extract? [13:51] it has to be beer? I prefer to brew mead. easy & nommy [14:09] shauno: personally, I prefer to brew cider. Best batch I made I left brewing in a shed for 6 months. Froze solid twice, but just made it better :) [14:10] I can't touch cider. makes my stomach turn. but I do believe it's more associative memory, than the drink itself [14:10] did have a batch that went sour, but made apple brandy from it with a B&Q paint stripper steamer [14:11] my vision returned after a week or so of drinking that brandy ;) [14:11] wine doesn't seem to sit well with me either, so a dry mead is the closest I can get without rocking the boat [14:15] shauno: never tried mead. Maybe one for xmas [14:16] shauno: got a recipe/link? [14:17] http://thekittencovers.tumblr.com/ [14:18] danfish, http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f80/joes-ancient-orange-mead-49106/ is about the most bullet-proof starter I've found. after that, I just experiment [14:21] shauno: tx [14:22] the only way I've ever found to go really wrong, is to use frozen fruit from supermarkets :( [14:22] I ended up breeding some very interesting purple fluff that way [14:23] heh - frozen oranges? [14:23] I was trying blackberries. from a farmer's market, it works really well [14:24] but if you freeze them and add them frozen, it destroys all the cell walls so they juice nicely [14:24] trying to cheat and let tesco freeze them for me .. well it still worked. just the large clumps of floating fluff didn't help the presentation [14:24] quite. [14:25] we have a number of damson trees in the garden - trying damson wine for the first time [14:26] I think it was daubers that was beekeeping this summer? if you really wanted to overachieve, that'd be fun ;) [14:28] I think he went on the River Cottage course. Fish family hols booked for that part of the world :) [14:46] danfish: Who's on a river cottage course? [14:46] * daubers did their beekeeping course [14:47] daubers: someone asked about you and beekeeping [14:48] ooooh [14:48] daubers: that's what I thought. [14:48] The beekeeping thing was aces [14:48] * MartijnVdS feels dirty [14:48] http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/5796344889/in/photostream [14:48] the first Stackoverflow question I've ever anwered is a Mysql question [14:49] ^ beekeeping \o/ [14:49] daubers: is that like cat-herding? [14:51] * danfish is hoping to relocate to west dorzet/east devon next year [14:57] MartijnVdS: it could be worse ..... COBOL [17:02] herro [17:03] Afternoon peeps [17:05] howzit bigcalm? [17:05] Little tired, little cold, little bored [17:05] Laptop on the sofa [17:06] bigcalm: Turn the heating up, put the tv on, fall asleep - fixes it all [17:07] Heating is on, enjoying the quiet without the telly though [17:07] I do like how peaceful our area is [17:10] Sod it. Going to install xubuntu-desktop on the laptop [17:11] only thing missing is a beer. [17:13] Might I recommend Innis & Gunn? [17:13] i am have not heard of. [17:13] i have not heard off. [17:13] of* [17:13] Heh [17:13] Try the Rum Cask one, it's yumy [17:13] yummy [17:14] ah, ok. [17:16] * mattt is watching heineken cup [18:14] Evening all. [18:14] \o popey [18:16] Evening [18:19] \o [18:25] popey: What was that alternative to gwibber you mentioned the other day [18:26] polly [18:26] Thanks [18:26] https://launchpad.net/polly [18:26] its _brilliant_ [18:26] i have had it running for days on my desktop, its quick, lean and does the job [18:26] gwibber seems to have died on me, will give it a try [18:27] does it speak g+? [18:31] can't log into msn w/ bitlbee any more :( [18:32] they changed their protocol again? [18:33] appears to be [18:33] empathy seems to work. [18:33] conencting to msn. [18:34] popey: there is a bleeding edge version using the streaming API too [18:35] generally polly is what I would have made circleoffriends into if I hadn't run out of time and ability :) [18:35] Do we trust Steam any more? [18:36] circleoffriends will turn into a dedicated twitter wall client if I get back to it === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [18:47] polly certainly is fast [18:48] Does anyone know of a tool to "merge" two filesystems. For example I have 2 hard drives full of movies, I don't want to have to look through each one individually. [18:50] rsync probably Azelphur [18:50] rsync works great if you can actually fit all the data onto one drive [18:50] I just want to browse it as if it was one drive, rather than it actually be one drive [18:51] some hoopy aufs magic? [18:51] some kind of media server? [18:52] grr, bloody useless firefox [18:52] what's the best way to replace ubuntu firefox with a not-fiddled-with version? [18:53] gordonjcp: You could start by removing xul-ext-ubufox and see if that's enough for you [18:53] penguin42: really whatever has been done that stops it saving settings [18:53] *shrug* media server works [18:53] Azelphur: minidlna then? [18:53] gordonjcp: Hmm I think it saves them for me [18:54] oO, dlna would be fun then I could watch things on my phone [18:54] penguin42: can you check if it saves middlemouse.contentLoadURL ? [18:55] because on mine it keeps forgetting that [18:55] gordonjcp: What is that? [18:55] the thing that lets you middle-click to go to the last selected url [18:56] ie. select a url from some text, middle-click in a browser window to load in the current tab [18:56] gordonjcp: Hmm never knew about tht [18:56] a [18:56] it's what I use about 75% of the time I load a URL that's www.google.co.uk [18:56] that's *not [18:58] gordonjcp: Hmm curious, no it doesn't [18:58] smoke alarm has gone off, dinner must be ready [19:00] Roast chicken? [19:01] penguin42: disabling the Ubuntu extensions *does* fix it [19:02] gordonjcp: I suggest filing a bug against it then [19:03] there are many bugs filed against it [19:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/794716 [19:03] Ubuntu bug 794716 in firefox (Ubuntu) "middlemouse.contentLoadURL resets to false" [Undecided,Confirmed] [19:04] gordonjcp: You say there are many, it would be best to get them all duped into one [19:05] well that one I just posted a link to describes the *real* problem [19:05] the ubuntu-mods.js file deliberately resets it back to false on every load [19:06] which I guess is in keeping with Ubuntu's closed and dictatorial Apple-like nature [19:06] gordonjcp: Chris Coulson's comment (#6) seems to suggest it's a bug in the way ff copes with extensions that change default behaviours - and I think he normally knows whats going on [19:09] penguin42: no, because by commenting out that line and re-enabling the extension I can leave it set any way I want [19:09] gordonjcp: I don't know enough about the innards of ff to know [19:10] yes, because that is only supposed to change the default value of the setting [19:10] I didn't realise linux doesn't do union mounts (natively). funky [19:13] here is the upstrem mozilla bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467766 [19:13] Mozilla bug 467766 in Preferences: Backend "user settings for pref keys with defaults in extension get reset on upgrade" [Normal,Assigned: ] [19:18] why would we turn off a useful feature? [19:18] the bug is that it keeps turning off, I get that, but why are we defaulting to off? [19:23] danfish: happy hour! [19:24] so where were you thinking? [19:26] AlanBell: yeah, thats the version of polly I am using [19:26] * AlanBell will upgrade to that shortly === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [20:33] danfish: surbiton area? [20:58] AlanBell: happy to arrange [20:58] great [20:59] early december on a day you can make it, at a wheelchair accessible pub [21:00] I will research next week :) [21:00] Surbiton is a weirdly well connected place [21:01] yup [21:02] and I don't mind the tour returning to London at it isn't central London [21:04] danfish: can you pick a date? [21:04] I can announce surbiton and the date now, and firm up the pub later [21:05] AlanBell: sure - give me 24hrs - 'she that must be obeyed' is out tonight, but I'll buzz you tomorrow [21:06] great [21:14] danfish: http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/2011/1112/1224307500358.html [21:14] * bigcalm needs help [21:14] danfish: so when are we going to orgnanise going to a rugby game eh ? === MichealH is now known as MH0 [21:17] bigcalm: This is one I use (Assuming your help relates to your twitter question) http://www.pensense.co.uk/shop/sheaffer-green-ink-2.html [21:19] DJones: ta [21:20] Its a while since I bought any though, the bottle has changed so the ink could have changed [21:21] The one I;ve got is an Emerald green [21:21] I have a Sheaffer purple, will be a year + before it's drained [21:22] Who made your pen? [21:23] I've got a mixture, Parker, Shaeffer & Cross [21:23] Oh, ok :) [21:23] I have a Cross pen [21:23] Looking for a new one to go with a green ink [21:23] I've had my cross one for about 25 years [21:24] czajkowski: epic munster game today! [21:29] bigcalm: Probably similar to this one http://goo.gl/Xlfla [21:30] Very nice [21:31] Bit out of my price range though :) [21:33] Heh, I bought mine in Singapore sort as a 21st birthday present to myself out of money I'd been left after my grandfather died [21:33] I think I spent about 80 quid on my cross [21:35] I paid $155 back then, not sure what that would work out now [21:35] 800 on a pen? :/ [21:35] oh, 80 ... phew. [21:53] oooo youtube have given me a 'more than 15 min upload' account now [21:53] * popey ponders what to upload [21:54] 1 hour of looped extreme ironing [21:54] hah [22:52] flash [23:17] Anybody with an old 1st generation iPod Nano? http://mashable.com/2011/11/12/ipd-nano-recall/ Maybe a chance of getting it replaced with a new one [23:23] DJones: Saw that earlier, shame I don't have one :p [23:29] Might be nice if somebody has an old broken one though, shiny new replacement :) [23:33] Would need to be working though, I guess. [23:34] bah, that's a pity, it's the newer one with out the display I've got