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[02:41] <LinuxMobile> Morning :-)
[02:43] <LinuxMobile> Exciting channel this lol
[02:44] <ball> Hello LinuxMobile
[02:44] <LinuxMobile> Hey baw
[02:44] <ball> LinuxMobile: It's about 02:44 in the UK.
[02:44] <ball> LinuxMobile: I imagine people are sleeping.
[02:44] <LinuxMobile> Im aware of that. Why tell me
[02:45] <LinuxMobile> I imagine then drunk and cycle ball. I guess we cant know
[02:45] <LinuxMobile> But we are active
[02:46] <LinuxMobile> You. Ball :-)
[02:47] <LinuxMobile> Just had bacon roll. Nom
[02:47]  * ball is confused
[02:48] <LinuxMobile> Ball, you mentioned me, thought you would like to chat?
[02:48] <LinuxMobile> Confused about bacon? Lol
[02:48] <ball> I was confused by the "drunk and cycle"
[02:48] <ball> no idea what that's all about.
[02:48] <LinuxMobile> Im mobile. Excuse me.
[02:48] <LinuxMobile> Drunk and awake :-)
[02:50] <ball> Well ride carefully then, I don't want you falling in a ditch.
[02:50] <LinuxMobile> I thought IRC was for chat?
[02:51] <ball> IRC is for community.
[02:51] <ball> ...and the occasional fight, depending on the channel in question.
[02:52] <LinuxMobile> Oh. I dont want to fight?
[02:52] <LinuxMobile> Just pass time with like mind
[02:59] <ball> LinuxMobile: This isn't one of the fighty channels.
[03:00] <ball> I have to go
[03:04] <LinuxMobile> I found active. Thanks
[08:45] <AlanBell> LinuxMobile: hi
[08:45] <AlanBell> morning all
[09:10] <popey> Morning
[09:18] <AlanBell> what exciting saturdayish things are you all up to today then?
[09:18] <AlanBell> and who wants to do the December Happy Hour?
[09:19] <AlanBell> where "do" consists of picking a date and a pub and turning up
[09:21] <gordonjcp> AlanBell: well I'm getting confused by apache's apparent inability to follow LANG settings
[09:21] <gordonjcp> having some really good coffee
[09:21] <gordonjcp> and planning on cycling over to the shops in a few minutes
[09:22] <kirrus> AlanBell: Looking at the support queue and trying to put off getting to work a few more minutes
[09:24] <gordonjcp> anyone here good at apache and locales?
[09:24] <popey> Open day at the kids school
[09:25] <gordonjcp> http://www.gjcp.net/smash/ <- I wrote this but it occasionally falls on its backside because it tries to format the currency with the locale set to "C"
[09:25] <gordonjcp> I suspect a race condition somewhere in apache or mod_python
[10:25] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:28] <sagaci> morning, brobostigon
[10:29] <brobostigon> morning sagaci
[10:29] <kirrus> morning :)
[10:30] <AlphaChallenor> Moring
[10:32] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:32] <czajkowski> AlanBell: sort out your chicken issue
[10:41] <jacobw> morning
[10:58] <Laney> today is the day of my first foray into home brewing
[10:59] <brobostigon> yummy Laney, good luck, :)
[11:07] <AlanBell> czajkowski: yes
[11:08] <czajkowski> AlanBell: coolio as I know  someone who was going to help
[11:10] <AlanBell> czajkowski: last I saw, he was alive and in a box
[11:11] <czajkowski> cool
[11:12] <florent_> Hello
[12:36] <danfish> AlanBell: December Happy Hour me want do
[12:36] <danfish> Laney: what 'degree' of brewing? Kit/full mash/malt extract?
[13:51] <shauno> it has to be beer?  I prefer to brew mead.  easy & nommy
[14:09] <danfish> shauno: personally, I prefer to brew cider. Best batch I made I left brewing in a shed for 6 months. Froze solid twice, but just made it better :)
[14:10] <shauno> I can't touch cider.  makes my stomach turn.  but I do believe it's more associative memory, than the drink itself
[14:10] <danfish> did have a batch that went sour, but made apple brandy from it with a B&Q paint stripper steamer
[14:11] <danfish> my vision returned after a week or so of drinking that brandy ;)
[14:11] <shauno> wine doesn't seem to sit well with me either, so a dry mead is the closest I can get without rocking the boat
[14:15] <danfish> shauno: never tried mead. Maybe one for xmas
[14:16] <danfish> shauno: got a recipe/link?
[14:17] <jacobw> http://thekittencovers.tumblr.com/
[14:18] <shauno> danfish, http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f80/joes-ancient-orange-mead-49106/ is about the most bullet-proof starter I've found.  after that, I just experiment
[14:21] <danfish> shauno: tx
[14:22] <shauno> the only way I've ever found to go really wrong, is to use frozen fruit from supermarkets :(
[14:22] <shauno> I ended up breeding some very interesting purple fluff that way
[14:23] <danfish> heh - frozen oranges?
[14:23] <shauno> I was trying blackberries.  from a farmer's market, it works really well
[14:24] <shauno> but if you freeze them and add them frozen, it destroys all the cell walls so they juice nicely
[14:24] <shauno> trying to cheat and let tesco freeze them for me .. well it still worked.  just the large clumps of floating fluff didn't help the presentation
[14:24] <danfish> quite.
[14:25] <danfish> we have a number of damson trees in the garden - trying damson wine for the first time
[14:26] <shauno> I think it was daubers that was beekeeping this summer?  if you really wanted to overachieve, that'd be fun ;)
[14:28] <danfish> I think he went on the River Cottage course. Fish family hols booked for that part of the world :)
[14:46] <daubers> danfish: Who's on a river cottage course?
[14:46]  * daubers did their beekeeping course
[14:47] <Pendulum> daubers: someone asked about you and beekeeping
[14:48] <daubers> ooooh
[14:48] <danfish> daubers: that's what I thought.
[14:48] <daubers> The beekeeping thing was aces
[14:48]  * MartijnVdS feels dirty
[14:48] <daubers> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattdaubney/5796344889/in/photostream
[14:48] <MartijnVdS> the first Stackoverflow question I've ever anwered is a Mysql question
[14:49] <daubers> ^ beekeeping \o/
[14:49] <MartijnVdS> daubers: is that like cat-herding?
[14:51]  * danfish is hoping to relocate to west dorzet/east devon next year
[14:57] <danfish> MartijnVdS: it could be worse ..... COBOL
[17:02] <mattt> herro
[17:03] <bigcalm> Afternoon peeps
[17:05] <mattt> howzit bigcalm?
[17:05] <bigcalm> Little tired, little cold, little bored
[17:05] <bigcalm> Laptop on the sofa
[17:06] <penguin42> bigcalm: Turn the heating up, put the tv on, fall asleep - fixes it all
[17:07] <bigcalm> Heating is on, enjoying the quiet without the telly though
[17:07] <bigcalm> I do like how peaceful our area is
[17:10] <bigcalm> Sod it. Going to install xubuntu-desktop on the laptop
[17:11] <brobostigon> only thing missing is a beer.
[17:13] <bigcalm> Might I recommend Innis & Gunn?
[17:13] <brobostigon> i am have not heard of.
[17:13] <brobostigon> i have not heard off.
[17:13] <brobostigon> of*
[17:13] <bigcalm> Heh
[17:13] <bigcalm> Try the Rum Cask one, it's yumy
[17:13] <bigcalm> yummy
[17:14] <brobostigon> ah, ok.
[17:16]  * mattt is watching heineken cup
[18:14] <popey> Evening all.
[18:14] <MartijnVdS> \o popey
[18:16] <Lcawte> Evening
[18:19] <MartijnVdS> \o
[18:25] <DJones> popey: What was that alternative to gwibber you mentioned the other day
[18:26] <popey> polly
[18:26] <DJones> Thanks
[18:26] <popey> https://launchpad.net/polly
[18:26] <popey> its _brilliant_
[18:26] <popey> i have had it running for days on my desktop, its quick, lean and does the job
[18:26] <DJones> gwibber seems to have died on me, will give it a try
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> does it speak g+?
[18:31] <mattt> can't log into msn w/ bitlbee any more :(
[18:32] <MartijnVdS> they changed their protocol again?
[18:33] <mattt> appears to be
[18:33] <brobostigon> empathy seems to work.
[18:33] <brobostigon> conencting to msn.
[18:34] <AlanBell> popey: there is a bleeding edge version using the streaming API too
[18:35] <AlanBell> generally polly is what I would have made circleoffriends into if I hadn't run out of time and ability :)
[18:35] <bigcalm> Do we trust Steam any more?
[18:36] <AlanBell> circleoffriends will turn into a dedicated twitter wall client if I get back to it
[18:47] <DJones> polly certainly is fast
[18:48] <Azelphur> Does anyone know of a tool to "merge" two filesystems. For example I have 2 hard drives full of movies, I don't want to have to look through each one individually.
[18:50] <AlanBell> rsync probably Azelphur
[18:50] <Azelphur> rsync works great if you can actually fit all the data onto one drive
[18:50] <Azelphur> I just want to browse it as if it was one drive, rather than it actually be one drive
[18:51] <gordonjcp> some hoopy aufs magic?
[18:51] <gordonjcp> some kind of media server?
[18:52] <gordonjcp> grr, bloody useless firefox
[18:52] <gordonjcp> what's the best way to replace ubuntu firefox with a not-fiddled-with version?
[18:53] <penguin42> gordonjcp: You could start by removing xul-ext-ubufox and see if that's enough for you
[18:53] <gordonjcp> penguin42: really whatever has been done that stops it saving settings
[18:53] <Azelphur> *shrug* media server works
[18:53] <gordonjcp> Azelphur: minidlna then?
[18:53] <penguin42> gordonjcp: Hmm I think it saves them for me
[18:54] <Azelphur> oO, dlna would be fun then I could watch things on my phone
[18:54] <gordonjcp> penguin42: can you check if it saves middlemouse.contentLoadURL ?
[18:55] <gordonjcp> because on mine it keeps forgetting that
[18:55] <penguin42> gordonjcp: What is that?
[18:55] <gordonjcp> the thing that lets you middle-click to go to the last selected url
[18:56] <gordonjcp> ie. select a url from some text, middle-click in a browser window to load in the current tab
[18:56] <penguin42> gordonjcp: Hmm never knew about tht
[18:56] <penguin42> a
[18:56] <gordonjcp> it's what I use about 75% of the time I load a URL that's www.google.co.uk
[18:56] <gordonjcp> that's *not
[18:58] <penguin42> gordonjcp: Hmm curious, no it doesn't
[18:58] <AlanBell> smoke alarm has gone off, dinner must be ready
[19:00] <MartijnVdS> Roast chicken?
[19:01] <gordonjcp> penguin42: disabling the Ubuntu extensions *does* fix it
[19:02] <penguin42> gordonjcp: I suggest filing a bug against it then
[19:03] <gordonjcp> there are many bugs filed against it
[19:03] <gordonjcp> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/794716
[19:03] <lubotu3`> Ubuntu bug 794716 in firefox (Ubuntu) "middlemouse.contentLoadURL resets to false" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:04] <penguin42> gordonjcp: You say there are many, it would be best to get them all duped into one
[19:05] <gordonjcp> well that one I just posted a link to describes the *real* problem
[19:05] <gordonjcp> the ubuntu-mods.js file deliberately resets it back to false on every load
[19:06] <gordonjcp> which I guess is in keeping with Ubuntu's closed and dictatorial Apple-like nature
[19:06] <penguin42> gordonjcp: Chris Coulson's comment (#6) seems to suggest it's a bug in the way ff copes with extensions that change default behaviours - and I think he normally knows whats going on
[19:09] <gordonjcp> penguin42: no, because by commenting out that line and re-enabling the extension I can leave it set any way I want
[19:09] <penguin42> gordonjcp: I don't know enough about the innards of ff to know
[19:10] <ali1234> yes, because that is only supposed to change the default value of the setting
[19:10] <shauno> I didn't realise linux doesn't do union mounts (natively).  funky
[19:13] <ali1234> here is the upstrem mozilla bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467766
[19:13] <lubotu3`> Mozilla bug 467766 in Preferences: Backend "user settings for pref keys with defaults in extension get reset on upgrade" [Normal,Assigned: ]
[19:18] <AlanBell> why would we turn off a useful feature?
[19:18] <AlanBell> the bug is that it keeps turning off, I get that, but why are we defaulting to off?
[19:23] <AlanBell> danfish: happy hour!
[19:24] <AlanBell> so where were you thinking?
[19:26] <popey> AlanBell: yeah, thats the version of polly I am using
[19:26]  * AlanBell will upgrade to that shortly
[20:33] <AlanBell> danfish: surbiton area?
[20:58] <danfish> AlanBell: happy to arrange
[20:58] <AlanBell> great
[20:59] <AlanBell> early december on a day you can make it, at a wheelchair accessible pub
[21:00] <danfish> I will research next week :)
[21:00] <danfish> Surbiton is a weirdly well connected place
[21:01] <AlanBell> yup
[21:02] <AlanBell> and I don't mind the tour returning to London at it isn't central London
[21:04] <AlanBell> danfish: can you pick a date?
[21:04] <AlanBell> I can announce surbiton and the date now, and firm up the pub later
[21:05] <danfish> AlanBell: sure - give me 24hrs - 'she that must be obeyed' is out tonight, but I'll buzz you tomorrow
[21:06] <AlanBell> great
[21:14] <czajkowski> danfish: http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/2011/1112/1224307500358.html
[21:14]  * bigcalm needs help
[21:14] <czajkowski> danfish: so when are we going to orgnanise going to a rugby game eh ?
[21:17] <DJones> bigcalm: This is one I use (Assuming your help relates to your twitter question) http://www.pensense.co.uk/shop/sheaffer-green-ink-2.html
[21:19] <bigcalm> DJones: ta
[21:20] <DJones> Its a while since I bought any though, the bottle has changed so the ink could have changed
[21:21] <DJones> The one I;ve got is an Emerald green
[21:21] <bigcalm> I have a Sheaffer purple, will be a year + before it's drained
[21:22] <bigcalm> Who made your pen?
[21:23] <DJones> I've got a mixture, Parker, Shaeffer & Cross
[21:23] <bigcalm> Oh, ok :)
[21:23] <bigcalm> I have a Cross pen
[21:23] <bigcalm> Looking for a new one to go with a green ink
[21:23] <DJones> I've had my cross one for about 25 years
[21:24] <mattt> czajkowski: epic munster game today!
[21:29] <DJones> bigcalm: Probably similar to this one http://goo.gl/Xlfla
[21:30] <bigcalm> Very nice
[21:31] <bigcalm> Bit out of my price range though :)
[21:33] <DJones> Heh, I bought mine in Singapore sort as a 21st birthday present to myself out of money I'd been left after my grandfather died
[21:33] <bigcalm> I think I spent about 80 quid on my cross
[21:35] <DJones> I paid $155 back then, not sure what that would work out now
[21:35] <mattt> 800 on a pen?  :/
[21:35] <mattt> oh, 80 ... phew.
[21:53] <popey> oooo youtube have given me a 'more than 15 min upload' account now
[21:53]  * popey ponders what to upload
[21:54] <AlanBell> 1 hour of looped extreme ironing
[21:54] <popey> hah
[22:52] <zleap> flash
[23:17] <DJones> Anybody with an old 1st generation iPod Nano? http://mashable.com/2011/11/12/ipd-nano-recall/ Maybe a chance of getting it replaced with a new one
[23:23] <LSymonds> DJones: Saw that earlier, shame I don't have one :p
[23:29] <DJones> Might be nice if somebody has an old broken one though, shiny new replacement :)
[23:33] <LSymonds> Would need to be working though, I guess.
[23:34] <penguin42> bah, that's a pity, it's the newer one with out the display I've got