[05:16] <cj> woe.  re-keying is a pita
[05:20] <valorie> what do you have to re-key, cj?
[05:20]  * bkerensa pokes valorie and other WA folks
[05:20]  * bkerensa waves
[05:20]  * valorie pokes bkerensa back
[05:20] <bkerensa> How goes the weather for my neighbors to the north?
[05:21] <valorie> we had a spate of hail earlier!
[05:21] <valorie> by the time I went to look it was all melted though
[05:21] <valorie> now sort of cold and damp out
[05:21] <valorie> how about Portland?
[05:22] <valorie> and has the mayor started moving Occupy P. out, yet?
[05:22] <bkerensa> Well weather.com said it was 46 today but it felt like mid 30's and was foggy on my part of the city in the afternoon
[05:22] <bkerensa> very cold atm
[05:22] <bkerensa> :D
[05:22] <bkerensa> heater is running at overclocked rate :P
[05:23] <valorie> furnace is running here as well
[05:24] <bkerensa> I think it will be a cold winter
[05:24] <bkerensa> Lucky I will be in California for Christmas
[05:24] <valorie> we've had a couple of hard freezes, but it's not quite that cold tonight
[05:24] <valorie> I like a cold winter, as long as it's not 3 feet of snow
[05:24] <valorie> that's a bit overkill
[05:25] <bkerensa> Oh it hasnt snowed that much in the years I have been here
[05:25] <bkerensa> just a few inches
[05:25] <bkerensa> I fear Ice more than I do snow
[05:25] <valorie> how many years have you lived there?
[05:25]  * bkerensa takes Public Transit so walking on frozen sidewalks is much like ice skating
[05:25] <bkerensa> valorie: Almost three now
[05:25] <valorie> there was a pretty bad storm 2 or 3 years ago
[05:25] <valorie> ok
[05:25] <bkerensa> yeah
[05:25] <bkerensa> it was only a foot or so
[05:26] <valorie> it was hell here
[05:26] <bkerensa> I was on the bus at the time and they had to kick everyone off and people left their cars on the freeway
[05:26] <valorie> fortunately I have a subaru
[05:26] <valorie> that's the one
[05:26] <bkerensa> I have seen worse snow in the Sierra Nevedas
[05:26] <bkerensa> like near Truckee
[05:26] <valorie> my daughter almost died from a kidney infection
[05:26] <bkerensa> Snow that would put the fear in people :P
[05:26] <valorie> she couldn't get to the hospital so I had to drive up to north seattle and take her
[05:27] <bkerensa> Bodie, CA gets pretty intense snow too.... Thats where the Marines do their Winter Warfare Training
[05:27] <bkerensa> wow
[05:27] <valorie> she was hospitalized over Xmas that year
[05:27] <bkerensa> thats not good
[05:27] <valorie> well, I was able to get her there
[05:27] <bkerensa> yeah
[05:27] <valorie> so it ended up good
[05:28] <valorie> she's alive
[05:29] <bkerensa> valorie: You live in Seattle too right or a suburb?
[05:29]  * bkerensa wants to make a trip up there sometime before the spring
[05:29] <valorie> an hour south-east
[05:29] <bkerensa> My two friends that were in Seattle both left :P
[05:30] <valorie> right outside of the little village of Black Diamond
[05:30] <bkerensa> just Finn now
[05:30] <valorie> it's a fun city
[05:31]  * bkerensa would mostly just be coming up to see Finn and maybe attend a WA LoCo event
[05:32] <bkerensa> Gotta be a month or two after Christmas because my California trip is going to be spendy
[05:32]  * bkerensa is unsure how some Ubuntu Members can afford to travel so much
[05:32] <bkerensa> seems like everyone except for me is going to every event regardless of its location
[05:32] <bkerensa> =o
[05:34] <valorie> well, I only go to UDS if I'm sponsored
[05:34] <valorie> same with the KDE events
[05:35] <valorie> that's how I can afford Switzerland and German
[05:35] <valorie> y
[05:35] <valorie> :-)
[05:37] <bkerensa> hmm :)
[05:37] <bkerensa> lucky you
[05:37] <bkerensa> LOL
[05:37]  * bkerensa will apply for UDS next year if it is in country
[05:37]  * bkerensa doesnt much want to go to Europe
[05:37] <bkerensa> :D
[05:39] <valorie> wow
[05:39] <valorie> I so much want to go to europe again
[06:28] <bkerensa> valorie: My friday evening - http://i.imgur.com/CVceT.png
[06:30] <valorie> ha
[06:30] <bkerensa> :P
[06:30] <valorie> I built tomahawk and some of its components
[06:30] <valorie> after spending the day shepherding my dad to the doctor and back
[06:30] <valorie> thank goodness we went out for pizza!
[06:38] <bkerensa> :D
[06:38] <bkerensa> a tomahawk like a axe or?
[06:38] <valorie> see gettomahawk.com
[06:39] <valorie> it's a way to share your music and playlists legally
[06:40] <valorie> I wanted the latest, though
[06:53] <bkerensa> ?
[06:53] <bkerensa> wait
[06:53] <bkerensa> share music legally?
[06:53] <bkerensa> -.o
[06:53] <bkerensa> did I miss a legal ruling of some sort? :P
[06:56] <bkerensa> valorie: You can share music with people over the internet? Like stream or actually send mp3s?
[06:59] <valorie> just stream
[07:00] <bkerensa> valorie: How do you find people to share with?
[07:00]  * bkerensa is install now
[07:00] <valorie> valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com - add me
[07:00] <valorie> the guys in the chan are good about sharing as well
[07:01] <valorie> #tomahawk
[07:01] <bkerensa> cool
[07:07] <bkerensa> valorie: ok added you
[07:14] <valorie> do you have a gmail or jabber?
[07:14] <valorie> I'll add you back
[07:16] <valorie> twitter thing isn't working for me right now
[07:17] <bkerensa> valorie: bkerensa@gmail.com
[07:20] <bkerensa> valorie: It said you added me
[07:20] <bkerensa> did you get my request
[07:20] <bkerensa> =o
[07:20]  * bkerensa is trying to figure this out... it looks and sounds cool but no idea how it works :P
[07:20] <valorie> I think the only thing we have to do is add one another
[07:21]  * valorie is listening to a podcast right now on amarok
[07:21] <valorie> so I'm no fun
[07:21] <valorie> although when you see my collection, you can play anything I have as long as I'm online
[07:21] <bkerensa> oh cool
[07:24] <bkerensa> valorie: wow someone in #tomahawk added me :D this is fun
[07:27] <valorie> yep, it seems new and different to me
[07:29] <bkerensa> valorie: Seems like Napster remixed to me
[07:29] <bkerensa> :D
[07:33] <valorie> ultimately, if you have a wide enough network, you should be able to hear just about anything
[08:00] <bkerensa> valorie: Only well people are online though?
[08:00] <bkerensa> :D
[08:00] <bkerensa> They need some kind of central list system to find people
[08:37] <valorie> I think they feel that once it gets popular, people will just friend their friends
[08:37] <valorie> also the good thing is that lots of linux people leave their computers on all the time
[08:38] <valorie> you could find people on their forums, but they are full of spam
[08:38] <valorie> :(
[18:44] <bkerensa> valorie: Do you have any copies of old speaker proposals?
[18:44]  * bkerensa is wanting to practice writing one on FOSS Evangelism and needs a guide
[22:18] <valorie> bkerensa: I've never written a speaker proposal
[22:18] <valorie> but I sure need to start
[22:18] <valorie> :-)