[00:00] <Artemis3> you can change the video output in both mplayer and vlc, maybe you have a video issue?
[00:00] <MnFisher> im on 11.10, none nothing for my Unity desktop starts, all updates are installed. Should i reset unity? If so how?
[00:01] <dcherniv> dalek_, check to see what video overlay you got in vlc and try the same it mplayer, totem doesnt let you change that as far as i know though
[00:01] <dalek_> dcherniv, although video is normal speed on mplayer, still no audio. VLC is the only player which is working 100% normal
[00:02] <MnFisher> im on 11.10, none nothing for my Unity desktop starts, all updates are installed. Should i reset unity? If so how?
[00:03] <dalek_> dcherniv, I don't know what video overlay is or where to find it in VLC. Totem was working 100% normal before I re-installed everything.
[00:04] <dcherniv> dalek_, hm, try installing mplayer from medibuntu.org repos
[00:04] <TexasRussian> Anyone know how to fix ubuntu 11.10 not working with my multi touch touchpad?
[00:05] <MnFisher> Hello, The only thing i get when ubuntu Unity starts is desktop wallpaper
[00:05] <TexasRussian> MnFisher, try booting into unity 2D
[00:05] <MnFisher> did that
[00:05] <MnFisher> same result
[00:05] <TexasRussian> oh..
[00:05] <TexasRussian> well, install gnome 3.2
[00:05] <TexasRussian> xD
[00:06] <MnFisher> TexasRussian,  yer not helping
[00:06] <dalek_> dcherniv, medibuntu is already in my repos sources... ?? so does that mean mplayer I have now is from medibuntu repo?
[00:07] <G00053> how do i get my 5.1 to work on an intel 82801JI on 11.10 . changing the settings in the sound manager doesn't seam to work
[00:07] <ceephax> hey has anyone installed mt-daapd on ubuntu server 11.10 ?
[00:09] <spitzi> Hello, can you see this ?
[00:10] <ceephax> spitzi, yes
[00:10] <spitzi> ceephax: cool, thanks
[00:10] <spitzi> Anyway, I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and I have a few questions.
[00:11] <dalek_> my video playback was normal. I had to reinstall EVERYTHING. now video playback is jerk-o-vision choppy with no sound in everything EXCEPT VLC. What am i missing???? What have I forgotten to re-install???  READ THIS - http://paste.ubuntu.com/735768/
[00:11] <spitzi> 1) When it loads, I get a white screen with black vertical stripes for a few seconds. What's that ?
[00:12] <kzman> hi, I have a problen with grub, I have installed debian and ubuntu on my HDD, and I installed grub only in ubuntu, and when I run the 'update-grub' command from ubuntu, it creates 3 entries for debian, and it have one linux image only
[00:13] <ceephax> spitzi, try upgrading your graphics card
[00:13] <ceephax> spitzi, perhaps install third party drivers?
[00:13] <ceephax> spitzi, this can appear automatically
[00:14] <dalek_> my video playback was normal. I had to reinstall EVERYTHING. now video playback is jerk-o-vision choppy with no sound in everything EXCEPT VLC. What am i missing???? What have I forgotten to re-install???  READ THIS - UPDATED http://paste.ubuntu.com/735799/
[00:14] <ceephax> spitzi, or do Applications->other->Update Manager
[00:14] <spitzi> ceephax: I did, I installed a third-party Nvidia driver. But I doubt that drivers get to load as early as that white screen appears, which happens right as Ubuntu begins to load -- a time when normally you don't see graphics but textual info.
[00:15] <ceephax> spitzi, oh is this after the grub?
[00:16] <spitzi> ceephax: yes, soon after I choose the option in grub. So a 3 years old graphics cards should already be incompatible with something as simple as a textual boot screen on 11.10 ?
[00:16] <dalek_> It's not like I changed any of my hardware in between wiping my drive and re-installing everything.... so Totem movie player SHOULD still work...
[00:17] <ceephax> spitzi, i dont know it was a suggestion when i mentioned drivers you didnt say it was after grub you said "when it loads"
[00:17] <spitzi> On to my next Question then.
[00:18] <spitzi> 2) How can I eliminate lots of unneeded entries from the grub menu, in a manner which stays persistent even after executing update-grub ?
[00:19] <spitzi> Best would be to not completely eliminate them but put them under some "advanced options", which are still accessible from the grub bootload menu.
[00:20] <tonyyarusso> spitzi: uninstall the relevant kernels
[00:20] <tonyyarusso> that would remove them entirely.  I think there may be a new option for your ideal case...
[00:21] <spitzi> tonyyarusso: :-) I'd rather not uninstall the kernels, just banish them from the main boot menu to some sub-menu.
[00:21] <dcherniv>  dalek_ sorry, stepped away for a second.
[00:21] <dcherniv> dalek_, after you added medibuntu did you apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer?
[00:22] <dalek_> dcherniv, welcome back. Probably.. but I will do it again now.
[00:22] <dcherniv> dalek_, do you have graphic acceleration at all. what does glxinfo say?
[00:24] <spitzi> Thanks, be back later
[00:24] <dalek_> dcherniv, I don't have glxinfo installed but I do have graphic acceleration.
[00:25] <dcherniv> dalek_, can you apt-get install mesa-utils and pastebin glxinfo anyway?
[00:25] <marekw2143> hi, how to install python-xcomp module on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[00:26] <Squidy> Hey man... I'm trying to install ubuntu server 10.04 using preseed methods.. however, when the installer is installing the base system.. it stops with an error message about kernel not found...
[00:26] <Squidy> in the logs I can see: warning kernel override 'linux-server' not present
[00:26] <Squidy> do you know how to solve that?
[00:28] <esben> My keyboard is lagging badly. Every 5 seconds or so it doesnt type, and then spits out all i typed afterwards. This goes on in all applications and even on tty's. Anyone have a clue about what is going on? It just started doing so after it woke up from sspend and has been doing so even after numerous restarts.
[00:28] <BlouBlou> esben: is it happening with other OS too or just with ubuntu?
[00:29] <esben> Dont have any other os iIIIIIIin bios it works fine
[00:29] <esben> what was that? :<
[00:29] <dalek_> dcherniv, here you go - http://paste.ubuntu.com/735806/
[00:30] <BlouBlou> esben: is it wireless?
[00:31] <dcherniv> dalek_, you got nvidia drivers?
[00:31] <esben> no, its the keyboard on a thinkpad r61i
[00:31] <dalek_> dcherniv, yes, the 3rd party nvidia drivers are installed and in use.
[00:31] <Aud1t> esben: booting off internal hdd?
[00:31] <apwbdjp> esben, did you try with a USB keyboard?
[00:31] <insuus> any java programmers here willing to help a learner? : )
[00:32] <Ipanonima> Tengo un problema con el irtualbox podrian ayudarme?
[00:32] <Ipanonima> virtualbox
[00:32] <dalek_> dcherniv, it is a Quadro FX Go700 built into laptop MB if that makes any difference...
[00:32] <esben> booting from internal hdd
[00:32] <dcherniv> dalek_, how did you install them? from nvidia.com or from repos?
[00:32] <zulu> moinmoin
[00:32] <dcherniv> dalek_, Error: glXCreateContext failed doesnt look like its working properly
[00:32] <esben> usb keyboard does the same
[00:33] <Guest18316> kann mir bitte mal jemand einen tipp geben, wo ich den font Arial.ttf für Ubuntu herbomme, und wo muß er installiert werden?
[00:33] <L1nuxRules> have nvidia updated there drivers? if they havet repos will only fix bugs/security
[00:33] <BlouBlou> !german | Guest18316
[00:34] <dalek_> dcherniv, from System > Administration > Additional Drivers (same as I have always done in the past with nvidia graphics cards)...
[00:34] <BlouBlou> L1nuxRules: what drivers? They have a lot of them
[00:34] <apwbdjp> esben, is just the keyboard crashing during these moments, or is everything freezing for a few seconds? Do you notice abnormal processor usage, at those instants?
[00:35] <L1nuxRules> bloublou the gfx, and trust me on this the vendors will never update before the Tux
[00:35] <L1nuxRules> apart from hardware obviously
[00:35] <esben> Its just the keyboard. It registers the keypresses though, but they appear 5 seconds later
[00:36] <dalek_> dcherniv, I could try disabling 3rd party drivers for nvidia, then reinstall them... I have not tried that yet.
[00:36] <glioros> how can i create the following file
[00:36] <glioros> ./var/lib/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/run
[00:36] <johntron> can anyone recommend a good process monitoring tool for a process i've developed?
[00:36] <glioros> ?
[00:36] <dcherniv> dalek_, if you're ok with command line i would suggest clean install from nvidia.com site
[00:36] <esben> or wait.... kworker thread is using 30-60% cpu (!)
[00:36] <BlouBlou> L1nuxRules: err... they do. They've the newest version called "nvidia-current", for example, the oldiest was 93, after it they released 173, and few more
[00:37] <johntron> ie monitor or supervisor
[00:37] <L1nuxRules> and I dont know what the issue reported is just being generalistic
[00:37] <esben> wonder what happens if i kill it ^_^
[00:38] <L1nuxRules> bloublou I entered mid convo
[00:38] <glioros> ??
[00:38] <dcherniv> glioros, ahh. qmail, good luck. :)
[00:38] <dalek_> dcherniv, I have done that in the past with my old laptop, but this one has always worked with the 3rd party drivers thing from the system menu....
[00:39] <glioros> dcherniv why everybody is saying me good luck with qmail ??
[00:39] <L1nuxRules> qmail isnt bad > postfix (these days)
[00:39] <glioros> over 30 people
[00:39] <Andrewx> For some reason none of the system bus plugins are being loaded on startup on my machine and the boot process freezes at "*Starting network connection manager
[00:39] <dcherniv> glioros, qmail is a pain to configure.
[00:39] <Andrewx> "
[00:39] <Andrewx> Would anyone know about fixing this issue?
[00:39] <quixotedon> i can't send email with thundermail using gmail client, any solution?
[00:39] <glioros> ./var/lib/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/run
[00:40] <glioros> so need to create this file ?
[00:40] <L1nuxRules> depends on the issue
[00:40] <glioros> how to create it ?
[00:41] <Andrewx> Also, when I try to boot mysql from recovery mode I get "Unable to connect to system bus: failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: no such file or directory
[00:42] <Andrewx> So I believe the system bus might be messed up.
[00:42] <Andrewx> Any Idea on how to correct this
[00:42] <Andrewx> ?
[00:42] <L1nuxRules> glioros if that directory isnt present you sure qmail is instaalled? Your on an Ubuntu server yes? Whats dpkg -l or dpkg --list | grep qmail show?
[00:42] <MoMo> how do i run a cron job from inside a path ... say i have /dir1/dir2/script.py  ... but i want to execute it from /dir1/dir2 as if I CD in to that the n run it
[00:43] <dcherniv> glioros, http://itsjustit.co.uk/chalfontcomputers/
[00:43] <tonyyarusso> MoMo: cd /dir1/dir2 && ./script.py
[00:43] <MoMo> thx
[00:43] <dcherniv> glioros, last i ran qmail was on freebsd, the above page seems to be pretty much the way i did it slightly changed for debian
[00:44] <L1nuxRules> MoMo just include the ful path in thee cron job
[00:44] <L1nuxRules> *needs a new keyboard
[00:44] <MoMo> L1nuxRules: i tried that -- doesn't work
[00:44] <glioros> dcherniv i read this :)
[00:45] <glioros> the link you send me an still in trouble...
[00:45] <L1nuxRules> momo what failed and what you trying to run?
[00:45] <glioros> guys is there a command in terminal so to rebuild the server?
[00:45] <Gskellig> does anybody know how to get an xbox360 wired controller working with ubuntu?
[00:45] <apwbdjp> MoMo, I agree with tonyyarusso, try that and let us know.
[00:46] <dalek_> dcherniv, oh yeah I just remembered another thing - before my mass re-install, I used to be able to set both the laptop LCD AND a TV set (through S-VHS port) to "Separate X Screen" - now I can only use "Twinview" or have one screen on and the other off. This could be related to my video playback problem somehow?
[00:47] <w0_> I'm trying to drag-n-drop a program icon onto the launcher bar, but it doesn't stay .. what am I missing?
[00:47] <ryan_46> Hi. I installed Bluetile  (window manager) and I have it running but it does not start properly at login shell. I have to wait, get blank desktop  then create a folder on the desktop.  etc
[00:47] <glioros> guys is there a command in terminal so to rebuild the server?
[00:47] <dcherniv> dalek_, hard to tell.
[00:47] <L1nuxRules> momo Im old skool Linux so can fix complicated issues although new people may be skilled there not 100%
[00:48] <L1nuxRules> I used slackware for years
[00:49] <benzap> hello
[00:49] <windows> why synaptics can't work in unity?
[00:49] <Gskellig> anyone? xbox360 controller on ubuntu?
[00:49] <benzap> I'm having a problem with an ubuntu server upgrade
[00:49] <benzap> I just finished the upgrade
[00:49] <benzap> and now when I ssh to it
[00:50] <benzap> it goes to a blank screen
[00:50] <benzap> I can send remote commands
[00:50] <Dark_Apostrophe> windows: I've got a touchpad using the Synaptics driver, and I have no trouble using it on Unity
[00:50] <benzap> but I can't access the terminal
[00:50] <w0_> why can I not drag and drop a program on to my launcher?
[00:50] <ryan_46> windows:  You can install synaptic from software center.
[00:50] <L1nuxRules> @ windows because Ubuntu is for Windows noobs who want to try a better OS
[00:50] <Dark_Apostrophe> ryan_46: Synaptic and synaptics are two different things.
[00:50] <Dark_Apostrophe> The former is a package manager UI, the latter a touchpad driver
[00:51] <ryan_46> Right just saw that.
[00:51] <ryan_46> Thanks Dark_Apostrophe
[00:51] <Zer0> Yo
[00:51] <apwbdjp> benzap, what do you mean send commands, but not access terminal?
[00:52] <L1nuxRules> and you could still update your OS if you knew how to use apt-get or aptitude
[00:52] <Guest26631> Apwbdjp
[00:52] <benzap> apwbdjp: for example i could go ssh benzap@blah "ls -a"
[00:52] <benzap> and it would return the result
[00:52] <benzap> but if i try and directly access it
[00:53] <Guest26631> Done
[00:53] <benzap> it goes to a blank screen
[00:53] <benzap> i'm under the impression it has something to do with screen, but i'm not sure
[00:53] <benzap> gnu screen
[00:54] <benzap> anyone have this problem
[00:54] <L1nuxRules> benzap whats the isssue your asking about?
[00:54] <apwbdjp> benzap, was screen configured to be your default shell?
[00:54] <benzap> i upgraded a server to 10,04, and after the upgrade, when I try and ssh into the box
[00:55] <benzap> it shows a blacnk screen after authentication
[00:55] <yeats> benzap: from ssh?
[00:55] <benzap> with a prompt
[00:55] <benzap> yes
[00:55] <benzap> however
[00:55] <benzap> if i can still perform remote commands on it
[00:55] <benzap> for instance ssh benzap@blah "ls -a"
[00:55] <benzap> will return the listings
[00:55] <apwbdjp> benzap, try to launch bash from ssh
[00:56] <apwbdjp> benzap, ssh benzap@blash "bash"
[00:56] <benzap> ssh benzap@blah "bash" goes blank
[00:56] <apwbdjp> Then it's not screen
[00:56] <benzap> ok
[00:56] <yeats> benzap: when you say "blank" - you mean that nothing is visible on the screen, not even the prompt?
[00:56] <benzap> yeah, it just sits there after i perform that
[00:57] <apwbdjp> benzap, you sshing from another linux box?
[00:57] <benzap> prompt is always visible in a terminal :/
[00:57] <L1nuxRules> benzap tail your /var/log/messages on attempting a connection what does it show? Have you also restarted sshd
[00:57] <benzap> it doesn't do anything, however
[00:57] <derek_> I can't get rhythmbox to burn my CDs through Brasero.  I tell it to burn my playlist, and it says I need to do it over several discs.  That's fine, but nothing happens when I click the button!
[00:57] <derek_> How can I fix this?
[00:58] <L1nuxRules> regarding messages on the server but might also be worth looking on the desktop
[00:58] <benzap> L1nuxRules: tail on /var/log/messages shows nothing fishy
[00:59] <benzap> i had to restart to finish the upgrade
[00:59] <benzap> i could try restarting it again?
[00:59] <yeats> benzap: I'm still not understanding - you're getting a screen with 'benzap@blah:~$' and a blinking cursor? or you're getting a blank screen with no text or anything?
[00:59] <tapir> Hi there any way to convert the contents of a file srt (subtitles) to uppercase
[00:59] <benzap> no
[00:59] <L1nuxRules> benzap is port 22 open ? are you the admin? has anyone done work on the server for you?
[00:59] <benzap> i'm just getting a  blinking cursor
[00:59] <yeats> benzap: ah
[01:00] <benzap> it's like nothing is appearing after i try and access it
[01:00] <L1nuxRules> reboots dont fix issues on Linux
[01:00] <benzap> yeah
[01:00] <L1nuxRules> you restart services on Linux not the box
[01:00] <benzap> L1nuxRules: port 22 is open, it's on a router
[01:00] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, the sshd is working fine with him. he can send commands. bash is the only thing that doesn't give him a prompt.
[01:00] <benzap> i'm the admin
[01:00] <benzap> yeah
[01:00] <benzap> it's rather odd
[01:01] <apwbdjp> benzap, tried sh?
[01:01] <benzap> hmm i'll give that a shot
[01:01] <L1nuxRules> benzap whats ls -lh /bin | grep bash show, maybe a symlink to /bin/dash
[01:02] <benzap> sh doesn't work
[01:02] <benzap> :S
[01:02] <benzap> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 800K 2010-04-18 21:51 bash
[01:02] <lapion> hmm I see more and more people going over to linuxmint.. that's what you get for pushing unity........
[01:02] <benzap> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    4 2011-11-11 18:51 rbash -> bash
[01:02] <benzap> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root    4 2011-11-11 18:51 sh.distrib -> bash
[01:02] <benzap> for L1nuxRules
[01:02] <FloodBot1> benzap: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:02] <L1nuxRules> when you say sh doesent work . You meah scripts or ssh?
[01:02] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, he meant dash doesn't give him a prompt either
[01:03] <benzap> thought sh was a shell?
[01:03] <Abisu> hello
[01:03] <yeats> benzap: sh is the system shell (actually a symlink to dash in ubuntu by default)
[01:03] <apwbdjp> benzap, pretty old one, yeah.
[01:03] <L1nuxRules> benzap whats your servers IP
[01:03] <benzap> server is on my router
[01:03] <benzap> so 192.168.1.105
[01:04] <lapion> benzap, in what way are you trying to execute sh ?
[01:04] <L1nuxRules> so its all accessible on localhost?
[01:04] <benzap> ssh benzap@foo "sh"
[01:04] <benzap> oh wait...
[01:05] <alligator> Salut
[01:05] <lapion> benzap, the user account probably doesn't have a shell set..
[01:05] <benzap> $term?
[01:05] <lapion> benzap, you have to modify the user file in the router
[01:05] <apwbdjp> lapion, but he tried forcing it to run bash and dash, shouldn't that work?
[01:05] <benzap> lapion: errr, doubt that
[01:06] <benzap> the router doesn't have anything to do with my problem
[01:06] <IR2558> hols
[01:06] <IR2558> hola algun español
[01:06] <haylo_> i am having a problem with the screen snapping to full size and i cant resize the bottom how do i disable this feature in unity?
[01:06] <lapion> apwbdjp, if the user on the router has /dev/null as sh then you cannot run /bin/sh
[01:06] <IR2558> algun español?????????
[01:06] <haylo_> t i mean in firefox app
[01:06] <IR2558> queme pueda ayudar
[01:06] <Logan_> !es | IR2558
[01:06] <L1nuxRules> haylo_ remove unity and install gnome
[01:06] <apwbdjp> lapion, but he tried bash too..
[01:06] <lapion> IR2558, este canal no es para los de habla espanol
[01:06] <IR2558> ok gracias
[01:07] <lapion> apwbdjp, if the user account has /dev/null as shell you cannot start sh
[01:08] <apwbdjp> lapion, I said he threw in bash, as a command.
[01:08] <apwbdjp> benzap, can't you put a head on the machine, and check what's going on?
[01:08] <haylo_> i tried the classic ubutnu and its same should i intstll gnome dektop or just liek xununtu desktop i would rather just switch that stupidfeature off in unity ubuntu that snap to fullscrteen thing
[01:08] <lapion> apwbdjp, he needs to specify the path..
[01:08] <benzap> $SHELL in the environment variables is set to /bin/bash
[01:08] <benzap> their is no $term
[01:09] <yeats> !nounity | haylo_
[01:09] <lapion> apwbdjp, however if shell is set to /dv/null usually the user cannot run commands or shells
[01:09] <L1nuxRules> haylo_ Im old skoll linux I meant remove all packages on removal
[01:09] <apwbdjp> lapion, I see.. didn't know that.
[01:09] <apwbdjp> anyway he says it's not /dev/null.
[01:09] <lapion> cat he look into the passwd file ?
[01:09] <benzap> would having $term blank be an issue?
[01:10] <L1nuxRules> lol /dev/null is nn exsitant file
[01:10] <benzap> i tried running byobu, and it says their is no term variable set
[01:10] <bort900> do colors not work in limechat?
[01:10] <L1nuxRules> /dev/null has alot of uses thoughj
[01:10] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, indeed, it has.
[01:11] <lapion> /dev/zero is even nicer..
[01:11] <L1nuxRules> stop changing things like M$
[01:11] <lapion> /dev/null has a different functionality then /dev/zero
[01:12] <L1nuxRules> fair dos , does it have aa man page I never used it
[01:13] <apwbdjp> benzap, TERM is what has to be set, and in your case it is.
[01:13] <L1nuxRules> or is /dev/zero a sym link?
[01:13] <guidov> i/lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic
[01:13] <haylo_> yeah i can do all that LinuxRules but it is just ridiculus that i cant get the damn firefox window back normal!! i
[01:13] <guidov> i'm supposed to have a /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/build directory but i don't have one
[01:13] <guidov> how can i fix this?
[01:14] <lapion> when running the first level shell there usually is no environment variable for the PATH so you have specify the path to your shell program eg: /bin/sh or /bin/bash
[01:14] <L1nuxRules> haylo_ you obviously didnt understand my last 2 questions
[01:15] <L1nuxRules> dont wory if you didnt, its an Ubuntu channel not Linnux
[01:15] <benzap> why isn't this workinggg
[01:15] <benzap> it doesn't make any sense
[01:15] <lapion> and ubuntu's not linnux however it is linux...
[01:15] <apwbdjp> benzap, is it possible to put a head on the server?
[01:16] <lapion> uil.. ubuntu is linux
[01:16] <benzap> everyone on my server works, the file server works
[01:16] <L1nuxRules> thats a typo on a keyboard with a dody A :)
[01:16] <benzap> i just can't ssh to it
[01:16] <L1nuxRules> benzap is port 22 open try nmap ip -p 22
[01:17] <benzap> all the ports all open... i'm not behind a firewall when it's on the same router as me
[01:17] <haylo_> thats not fair LinuxRules because you odidnt ask any questions
[01:17] <lapion> benzap, not if the ports are open but if the port is active
[01:17] <i3luefire> so... what is the deal with the no spare file error? can i get rid of it without reinstalling mint with a separate /boot partition that isnt btrfs?
[01:17] <haylo_> but i will stop using unity if it makes me look like a total noob
[01:18] <bonhoffer> anyone know how i see my processor speed and temperature in 11.10?
[01:18] <sasori> am having a problem, where to find the swap files of a txt file?..because whenever i do "vi test.txt" ..am seeing this E325 ATTENTION message
[01:18] <benzap> nmap command not found
[01:18] <lapion> bonhoffer, sorry that's another feature of unity..
[01:18] <sasori> i tried /var/tmp ..then ls -la  , i saw no, swap files at all
[01:18] <benzap> i don't have it installed I guess
[01:19] <bonhoffer> lapion: sorry? i missed your comment
[01:19] <Eeinstein> Yo
[01:19] <sikun> should a desktop with 1.25GB of RAM, P4 3.0ghz, Radeon 9800GT run ubuntu 11.10 decently? I have it installed and it just seems really sluggish at times
[01:19] <apwbdjp> sasori, vim swap files are right next to the text file itself, it has the same file with a ~ at the beggining (or at the end, not sure)
[01:19] <truepurple> Can someone help me install smplayer?
[01:19] <apwbdjp> sasori, same file name*, sorry
[01:19] <L1nuxRules> sorry benzap Im stoned but can help, what was the issue again>?
[01:20] <sasori> apwbdjp: thanks, found them in the same dir :D
[01:20] <benzap> when i try and ssh into my server, it blank screens, when I send it remote ssh commands, it responds
[01:20] <benzap> so ls -a will return a response
[01:20] <lapion> bonhoffer, one of the features of unity is loss of functionality
[01:20] <benzap> namely ssh benzap@blah "ls -a"
[01:20] <L1nuxRules> benzap what you using as your ssh client?
[01:20] <benzap> i'm using ssh
[01:21] <lapion> benzap, try ssh benzap@blah /bin/bash
[01:21] <i3luefire> is there a way to do it or not?
[01:21] <lapion> benzap, or try ssh benzap@blah /bin/sh
[01:21] <L1nuxRules> benzap so your on a Linux box and a terminal? Im asking because I deal with to many windows people
[01:21] <benzap> blank
[01:22] <benzap> i'm on a linux terminal on a netbook
[01:22] <benzap> on the same router as this file server
[01:22] <lapion> bonhoffer, one of the other features of unity is loss of all the experienced users that can help less experienced users.. most of the experienced users jump shipo
[01:22] <L1nuxRules> what does ssh localhost do?
[01:23] <benzap> says refused, I don't have an ssh server setup on this netbook
[01:23] <i3luefire> lapion: yep. thats why i went to mint
[01:23] <L1nuxRules> benzap and you havent locked it down by nkeys or anything?
[01:23] <benzap> L1nuxRules: this ssh problem all started after I upgraded my ubuntu server
[01:24] <lapion> i3luefire, that's why I am on 10.04/classic/metacity --replace
[01:24] <benzap> it upgraded, asked to restart
[01:24] <L1nuxRules> benzap what version from > to
[01:24] <lapion> benzap, restart it
[01:24] <benzap> it was something like 8.04 to 10.04
[01:24] <benzap> pretty steep upgrade
[01:25] <L1nuxRules> desktop wise that is fine server no
[01:25] <bonhoffer> how do i change the default boot device is that only in bios?
[01:25] <lapion> benzap, or try ssh benzap@blah "init 6"
[01:25] <szal> bonhoffer: haven't heard of any other way yet
[01:25] <L1nuxRules> lapion do you even know what that does?
[01:26] <i3luefire> lapion: but i need to find out if i can get rid of the error no sparse file without putting /boot on an ex* part
[01:26] <bonhoffer> szal: thanks
[01:26] <L1nuxRules> main thing to check is sshd started?
[01:26] <truepurple> Can someone help me install smplayer?
[01:26] <bonhoffer> truepurple: did you search in software center?
[01:26] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, he can throw single commands and get output via ssh, so I believe it is
[01:26] <lapion> L1nuxRules, init 6 sets the system flag to reboot
[01:27] <insuus> truepurple sudo apt-get install smplayer
[01:27] <L1nuxRules> lapion exactly when theres no need to reboot the server
[01:27] <Hollow> Test
[01:27] <Eeinstein> test
[01:27] <lapion> L1nuxRules, you did an upgrade that requiered a reboot...
[01:27] <truepurple> bonhoffer, it is in software center, but it is tied to a older mplayer version. I just had a bunch of help installing a newer version of mplayer, I need a smplayer that points to it.
[01:27] <szal> truepurple: unless you're on KDE or IceWM, you might be better off installing gmplayer
[01:27] <L1nuxRules> trhis isnt windowxs :)
[01:28] <lapion> L1nuxRules, when you replace library files sometimes you need to reboot
[01:28] <bonhoffer> truepurple: can you install it from source?
[01:28] <truepurple> insuus, will that command install its own mplayer version, or attach it to the existing mplayer?
[01:28] <L1nuxRules> lapion only reboot for kernels but that wasnt waht I replied to your reply
[01:28] <lapion> L1nuxRules, I ahve been working with linux since 1996......
[01:28] <truepurple> bonhoffer, I don't even entirely know what that means
[01:28] <benzap> ok, i restarted it
[01:28] <benzap> gonna give it a while
[01:29] <L1nuxRules> lapion good for you and longer than me :)
[01:29] <truepurple> szal, that is a better front end? If so, how do I install that gmplayer, so it doesn't install its own mplayer but instead gets tied to the existing mplayer?
[01:29] <lapion> L1nuxRules, otherwhise try restarting the ssh server on the server
[01:29] <bonhoffer> truepurple: o.k. i can't walk through it right now -- i have to run -- but google build from source on ubuntu
[01:29] <insuus> truepurple why don't you just install vlc?
[01:29] <L1nuxRules> lapion I work with end users so have to be careful
[01:29] <L1nuxRules> *L
[01:30] <szal> truepurple: at least gmplayer doesn't require Qt, like smplayer does
[01:30] <Albega> Please don't forget to support KDE, It needs our help.  |----> http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2011/10/10/help-kde-e-v-secure-funding-for-a-sprint-with-just-a-few-clicks/
[01:30] <truepurple> insuus, I have vlc installed, it doesn't cut it
[01:30] <sidewalk> how do i change the screen resolution in 11.10 from commandline?
[01:30] <L1nuxRules> gnome >> kde < xfce
[01:30] <benzap> well this is strange
[01:31] <lapion> L1nuxRules, maybe a stale older version ssh server is still running, maybe you are still logged in some ssh session ?
[01:31] <apwbdjp> benzap, ?
[01:31] <jgallen23> anybody know a workaround for installing imagemagick on 11.10?  getting an error, this is 404ing http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cups/libcupsimage2_1.5.0-8ubuntu2_i386.deb
[01:31] <truepurple> szal, and what is the significance of that?
[01:31] <dcherniv> truepurple, smplayer is just a frontend. mplayer is one of the dependencies for smplayer.
[01:31] <garo> Does xubuntu use the same package sources as ubuntu ?
[01:31] <benzap> it doens't even return remote commands anymore
[01:31] <benzap> just hangs altogether
[01:31] <L1nuxRules> only decent distro thats ever used kde has been slackware
[01:31] <insuus> truepurple what are you trying to do? what video format are you trying to play
[01:31] <szal> truepurple: less overhead of shared libs and stuff
[01:31] <dcherniv> sidewalk, xrandr if you have normal drivers, ie not ati or nvidia
[01:31] <apwbdjp> benzap, nmap your server (install if you have to)
[01:31] <truepurple> dcherniv, I know that, I need a front end for the mplayer version I have just installed with alot of work and commands
[01:31] <xangua> garo: it has the same repositories, yes
[01:32] <szal> truepurple: and how did you install that 'newer version'?
[01:32] <truepurple> insuus, mkv mostly
[01:32] <garo> so ubuntu and xubuntu are actually the same distro, but with another default installation
[01:32] <sidewalk> dcherniv: and if i do have nvidia?
[01:32] <apwbdjp> brb
[01:33] <truepurple> szal, someone in the mplayer chat room guided me through it, alot of stuff had to be done. s/he said that it was a version that wasnt even released yet
[01:33] <L1nuxRules> lapion on the server do a ps aux for sshd kill any sessions
[01:33] <dcherniv> truepurple, ah compiled from source? then you'll have to compile smplayer too.
[01:33] <xangua> garo: ubuntu use gnome and xuubntu xfce, kubuntu kde, lubuntu lxde
[01:33] <garo> and it should be possible by removing and installing packages and making some changes in /etc to transform one into the other
[01:33] <garo> right ?
[01:33] <benzap> i'm honestly thinking of just doing a fresh install on the server
[01:33] <benzap> this is annoying
[01:34] <truepurple> dcherniv,  szal commands like "mkdir source ; cd source ; svn checkout svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/trunk mplayer ; cd mplayer ; configure ; make -j4"
[01:34] <dcherniv> sidewalk, might still be able to use xrandr
[01:34] <benzap> lapion: tried nmap
[01:34] <lapion> L1nuxRules, nope then you lose all possibility to login.. better to do:
[01:34] <dcherniv> sidewalk, try it
[01:34] <benzap> says host seems down
[01:34] <insuus> truepurple thats building from source : )
[01:35] <Eeinstein> Yo
[01:35] <benzap> yeaa, i'm just gonna rip it out and run a keyboard and mouse on it
[01:35] <L1nuxRules> laapion now you dont you kill the open logins then restart ssh if you want to worry
[01:35] <benzap> i'll do that tomorrow
[01:35] <szal> <- gone
[01:35] <insuus> truepurple mkv files play just fine in vlc for me. its just a blueray format
[01:35] <benzap> thanks for the hekp
[01:35] <apwbdjp> benzap, you sure it didn't just move ips, on the network? Ask your router
[01:35] <apwbdjp> benzap, that would work too.
[01:35] <truepurple> insuus, well its not working right for me.
[01:35] <benzap> i have it setup to always have the same ip on my router
[01:36] <sidewalk> dcherniv: im not able to run nvidia-settings remotely over ssh
[01:36] <KingPin> hey folks anyone here use the landscape client? it seems to leave me with thousands of defunct "fuser" procs
[01:36] <L1nuxRules> sidewalk how are you attempting?
[01:36] <sidewalk> LightDM Display Manager fails to start
[01:37] <L1nuxRules> ^^
[01:37] <insuus> truepurple , i see. well, gmplayer might be a better solution then . building from source and then trying to troubleshoot usually is for advanced
[01:37] <benzap> i ran nmap on my remote ip
[01:37] <benzap> and it works
[01:37] <benzap> sees my webserver etc
[01:37] <L1nuxRules> Linux >> Windows < user
[01:37] <apwbdjp> benzap, sees port 22 too?
[01:38] <benzap> yes, says it's filtered
[01:38] <truepurple> insuus, how can I install gmplayer so it is connected to the current install of mplayer, and doesn't try to install its own mplayer?
[01:38] <L1nuxRules> locked by IP
[01:38] <apwbdjp> benzap, and ssh still can't run any command?
[01:38] <dcherniv> sidewalk, are you trying to change the resolution over ssh?
[01:38] <lapion> benzap, L1nuxRules pretty hard to kill all sshd's without risking lockout
[01:38] <crocket> Can anybody mount mdf files with mount?
[01:38] <i3luefire> ok what is the deal with getting this laptop to connect using the wired network?
[01:38] <L1nuxRules> is sshd locked down to IP
[01:38] <dcherniv> truepurple, compile it from source thats the only way.
[01:39] <sidewalk> well, im trying to run commercial drivers for my nvidia card instead of the open sourced ones
[01:39] <L1nuxRules> lapion I dont advise noob ways
[01:39] <sidewalk> but when i change drivers, X wont start
[01:39] <xangua> truepurple: with gnome-mplayer you can select manually the binary of the mplayer you compiled....or next time just stick to the packages provided by your repository
[01:39] <sidewalk> lightdm fails to start
[01:39] <L1nuxRules> lapion I learnt by breaking stuff
[01:39] <truepurple> dcherniv, and how do I do that? googling random instructions has not worked out so well for me before
[01:39] <dcherniv> sidewalk, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say
[01:39] <benzap> ok, that's strange
[01:39] <truepurple> xangua, the package provided my my repository was inadequate
[01:40] <apwbdjp> benzap, what is?
[01:40] <benzap> it's like the server disappeared
[01:40] <benzap> wtf
[01:40] <benzap> i'm going to have to check my router
[01:40] <sidewalk> ah, w8
[01:40] <L1nuxRules> benzap the FS could be RO
[01:40] <L1nuxRules> thats file system read only
[01:40] <truepurple> xangua, I did not understand the first half of what you said
[01:41] <lapion> L1nuxRules, the best way is to get the ssh script to stop and the start up again a short time in the future, becuase if you are using ssh to kill all sshd's it will never kill the one used to execute the command through ssh
[01:41] <truepurple> xangua,  gnome-mplayer is a front end?
[01:41] <L1nuxRules> lapion no
[01:41] <L1nuxRules> its not a script for 1 its a daemon
[01:42] <Eeinstein> ...
[01:42] <lapion> "mount -o remount -o rw /" should fix a read-only fs
[01:42] <dcherniv> truepurple, did you compile mplayer from source?
[01:42] <kang_> hi
[01:42] <jeff_> Hi all, can someone help me with a sound question?
[01:42] <L1nuxRules> lapion not if it needs an fsck
[01:42] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, they're scripts, actually.
[01:42] <truepurple> dcherniv, seems so
[01:42] <xangua> truepurple: yes
[01:43] <lapion> L1nuxRules, it's the sysv system that uses scripts to (re)start the sshdeamon
[01:43] <xangua> truepurple: but is not gmplayer i believe, anyway you can select the mplayer binaty with any fronted
[01:43] <L1nuxRules> apwbdjp> learn waht yourt talking about trust me
[01:43] <benzap> ok wt
[01:43] <lapion> L1nuxRules, sshd is being kept active by a script
[01:43] <benzap> does the mac address for a ubuntu server change?
[01:44] <benzap> that doesn't seem to make sense
[01:44] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, you realise he was talking about what you use to stop, start and restart sshd? not the sshd itself.
[01:44] <truepurple> xangua, you mean you can select which mplayer the smplayer is pointed to after the fac
[01:44] <L1nuxRules> lapion theres alot of different ways to start services in Linux
[01:44] <benzap> it's hardware based
[01:44] <Guest91034> I can't seem to get any sound.  What can I do?
[01:44] <lapion> the key to the ssh server might have changed...
[01:44] <L1nuxRules> I strted using /rc.d
[01:44] <xangua> truepurple: on the preferences
[01:44] <L1nuxRules> then djusted to /etc/init.d
[01:45] <benzap> it didn't
[01:45] <lapion> L1nuxRules, sshd runs from sysv init scripts
[01:45] <benzap> I think the server is just missing
[01:45] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, which aren't deamons.
[01:45] <truepurple> xangua, is there a way to install smplayer without it triggering its own mplayer installation?
[01:45] <benzap> i'm just gonna reinstall from scratch
[01:45] <L1nuxRules> sshd is though
[01:45] <benzap> upgrading from such a low ubuntu version was a bad idea
[01:45] <theborger> hey guys having an issue installing nvidia drivers on 10.04
[01:45] <theborger> i was following this guide http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[01:46] <theborger> but mine never errors out. just boots straight ot desktop
[01:46] <sasori> what do you call the scenario/situation , if in linux, the full screen is a terminal ?
[01:46] <KM0201> console --- sasori
[01:46] <L1nuxRules> ssh is a client and server btw
[01:46] <Guest91034> Is there a way to downgrade to version 10 again?  Ever since I upgraded to 11.10 I've had nothing but problems.
[01:46] <apwbdjp> benzap, maybe you could put a screen and a keyboard on the server first, to see what's going on.
[01:46] <sasori> ok, how to get back to the gnome? if am on the console mode thing?
[01:46] <lapion> L1nuxRules, you are lost.. sshd is a server ssh is a client
[01:47] <L1nuxRules> lapion sshd is ssh server not client read the man pages
[01:47] <xangua> Guest91034: other than reinstall, no
[01:47] <lapion> L1nuxRules, are you telling me putty is a server
[01:47] <KM0201> sasori: um, try ctrl + alt + f7
[01:47] <L1nuxRules> putty is for Linux noobs like your self
[01:47] <KM0201> ..
[01:47] <Eeinstein> ...
[01:47] <lapion> L1nuxRules, please distinguish between the sshd ssh server and the ssh client
[01:47] <bjblaz> ....
[01:47] <theborger> someone point in in the right direction?
[01:47]  * KM0201 didn't even know putty had a Linux version..
[01:48] <sasori> kewl..thanks KM0201 ..it worked
[01:48] <L1nuxRules> sshd is a server (daemon) thats the d at the end
[01:48] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, you were right about being stonned..
[01:48] <KM0201> sasori: np.. :)
[01:48] <L1nuxRules> ssh is the client
[01:48] <apwbdjp> KM0201, I found that out when I found putty for android phones
[01:48] <lapion> L1nuxRules, so don't come telling that ssh is a server and a client..
[01:48] <KM0201> sasori: just for the record contrl + alt + f1-f6, will get you different console screens, f7, takes you back to X
[01:49] <L1nuxRules> dont you know the diff
[01:49] <sasori> ok, let's say am coding in console mode. and i wanna take a screen shot..is that possible ?
[01:49] <lapion> there is a ssh server and a ssh client.. usually they are not interchangeable
[01:49] <Guest91034> In Ubuntu 11.10, where can I find the Systems Monitor?
[01:49] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, we do, you just didn't seem to.. Anyway this isn't going anywhere anymore.
[01:49] <L1nuxRules> servers and clients  are 2 different things
[01:50] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, says the guyswho just said ssh is a client and a server at the same time.
[01:50] <KM0201> sasori: hmm, i don't think so.
[01:50] <L1nuxRules> just because your new to ssh its just the same as ftp , smtpm or http
[01:50] <lapion> L1nuxRules,  please do not put words in my mouth but proofread what you post before posting:"<L1nuxRules> ssh is a client and server btw"
[01:50] <L1nuxRules> ^^^ NOOBS
[01:50] <apwbdjp> lapion, if I was you I'd give up on this guy. He's hopeless.
[01:50] <bjblaz> i prefer boobs
[01:51] <Guest91034> Ugh this is very frustrating.  anybody know how to turn on the sound in ubuntu 11.10?
[01:51] <smw> lapion, ssh is a protocol
[01:51] <arooni-mobile> i'm connected to a wireless network with my 11.10 ubuntu laptop.  is there a way to allow my internet connection to be shared to my android phone?
[01:51] <lapion> L1nuxRules, eat your own words
[01:51] <L1nuxRules> lol you think ssh is the same as sshd? lmao
[01:51]  * KM0201 chuckles at people calling others noobs... it's almost like guys talking about how big their package is... it only identifies their own insecurities
[01:51] <apwbdjp> arooni-mobile, can't your android phone reach the wireless network itself?
[01:52] <smw> L1nuxRules, they are both openssh...
[01:52] <KM0201> sasori: see if any of these will get you a screenshot in console...  http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-with-ubuntu-linux
[01:52] <L1nuxRules> ok so ssh isnt different from sshd ? sorry gui ppl old skool Linux admins would slap you :)
[01:52] <lapion> L1nuxRules, you said that not me
[01:52] <urlin2u> !ot
[01:52] <L1nuxRules> no I didnt
[01:52] <CarlFK> who actually has an ssh related problem?
[01:53] <L1nuxRules> thts what I meant to say if it was different typos
[01:53] <KM0201> CarlFK: i think L1nuxRules just likes ranting about how smart he is.
[01:53] <apwbdjp> lapion, smw, the guy isn't stupid, he's just bored tonight, and I'm not gonna entertain him.
[01:53] <CarlFK> all this chatter about what ssh is and isn't has gotten pretty old.
[01:53] <L1nuxRules> I dont
[01:53] <urlin2u> take the arguments to #ubuntu-offtopic and slap each others ego's there.
[01:53] <lapion> and I quote: 02:47:09"<L1nuxRules> ssh is a client and server btw"
[01:53] <bjblaz> is there an easy way to set the default display settings in ubuntu 11.10 (like there was in 11.04)?
[01:54] <CarlFK> lapion: why are you quoting??  no, don't answer that.  just drop it.  please.
[01:54] <urlin2u> bjblaz, the resolution?
[01:54] <L1nuxRules> lapion well shows you didnt unsterstand what I said
[01:54] <arooni-mobile> i'm connected to a wireless network with my 11.10 ubuntu laptop.  is there a way to allow my internet connection to be shared to my android phone?
[01:54] <L1nuxRules> ssh is the client sshd is the server....
[01:54] <CarlFK> L1nuxRules: you too.  please.
[01:54] <bjblaz> urlin2u: actually, i just want my laptop to boot up with the laptop screen off
[01:54] <lapion> L1nuxRules, stop thorlling
[01:54] <bjblaz> without my having to log in first
[01:55] <urlin2u> bjblaz, not sure there sorry.
[01:55] <smw> L1nuxRules, you are absolutely right and there is nothing else to discuss.
[01:55] <L1nuxRules> smw ty
[01:55] <Guest91034> How can I locate Applications/System Tools in Ubuntu 11.10?
[01:55] <urlin2u> Guest91034, what are you actually trying to do?
[01:56] <Guest91034> urlin2u, I want to get the sound working.
[01:56] <xangua> Guest91034: open the dash and type the app name you want
[01:56] <Guest91034> When I type System Tools nothing happens
[01:56] <insuus> Guest91034, type this in terminal: sudo apt-get sound working
[01:57] <insuus> rofl
[01:57] <lapion> Guest91034, in the logout menu there is the system config option as well
[01:57] <apwbdjp> Guest91034, I guess you have to type the name of the precise application.. what are you looking for?
[01:58] <KM0201> Guest91034: do you have pulse audio installed?
[01:58] <Guest91034> Well I read on the Ubuntu forums of a way to try to get the sound working was to disable pulseaudio under the Systems Monitor
[01:58] <lapion> Guest91034, try the menu on the top right ...
[01:58] <KM0201> Guest91034: i would make disabling pulse audio a last resort
[01:59] <Albega> Please don't forget to support KDE, It needs our help.  |----> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4491 and GOOD NIGHT!
[01:59]  * KM0201 burns Kubuntu CD's for fun
[01:59] <urlin2u> !sound have you looked here Guest91034
[01:59] <Guest91034> looked where?
[02:00] <urlin2u> !sound
[02:00] <KM0201> Guest91034: step 1. verify pulse audio installed... is it installed?
[02:00] <Guest91034> How can I tell if pulse audio is installed?
[02:00] <KM0201> Guest91034: opena terminal and   sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[02:00] <KM0201> Guest91034: if its not installed, it will install
[02:01] <Guest91034> it says: pulseaudio is already the newest version.
[02:01] <KM0201> Guest91034: ok   now   sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[02:01] <Guest91034> okay
[02:01] <L1nuxRules> you installed nything recently that might have broken dependencies?
[02:01] <KM0201> Guest91034: is that installing?
[02:01] <Guest91034> It is installed
[02:02] <urlin2u> Guest91034, have you looked at the links I triggered the bot to give?
[02:02] <KM0201> Guest91034: ok, now... go to the dashboard and search for "Pulse Audio"   and you should find "pulse audio volume control"
[02:02] <IrcyIrc> Random testing
[02:03] <Guest91034> Okay
[02:03] <KM0201> now... on your output devices tab... what does it say there?
[02:03] <KM0201> Guest91034: just to be clear, you're not doing something stupid, like using a USB headset/speakers.
[02:04] <L1nuxRules> :)
[02:04] <windows> why synaptic can't work with unity?
[02:04] <IrcyIrc> Hello
[02:04] <KM0201> windows: it can't?
[02:04] <L1nuxRules> windows , if you dont know why use LTS or learn Linux
[02:04] <KM0201> windows: it's just not installed by default anymore, you should be able to install it from software center.
[02:05] <urlin2u> windows, can you share what you actually mean it is not installed in oneiric.
[02:05] <Guest91034> My output devices says:
[02:05] <Guest91034> HD48x0 audio Digital Stereo (HDMI)
[02:05] <Guest91034> Port: HDMI
[02:05] <Guest91034> Front Left: 100% (0.00 dB)
[02:05] <Guest91034> Front Right: 100% (0.00 dB)
[02:06] <Guest91034> No, it is not a USB headset or speakers, the speakers are plugged in via the round jack in the back, but they are USB powered
[02:06] <korokos> hey guys
[02:06] <KM0201> Guest91034: if you play an audio file...  does the bottom "bounce".... as if the audio is playing on yoru system (just not coming through on your headphones)
[02:06] <Guest91034> KM0201, yes the slider bar goes up and down
[02:07] <KM0201> Guest91034: not the slider
[02:07] <KM0201> the slider adjusts the volume
[02:07] <KM0201> if a audi file is playing, underneath it, you'll ese a bar "bouncing" with the rhythm of the file
[02:07] <Guest91034> Yes, the bar is bouncing
[02:07] <KM0201> Guest91034: ok
[02:07] <KM0201> so your sound is working
[02:07] <Guest91034> But I don't hear anything
[02:07] <KM0201> Guest91034: try this.. go to the "configuration" tab
[02:07] <KM0201> Guest91034: well no kidding.
[02:08] <urlin2u> Guest91034, is it a desktop or laptop, in other words can you confirm if itis a laptop that it is not the speakers?
[02:08] <Guest91034> it is a desktop
[02:08] <Guest91034> it is not the speakers
[02:08] <Guest91034> I tried the speakers on my laptop they work
[02:08] <KM0201> Guest91034: on the configuration tab, what is your setting there?\
[02:08] <Guest91034> Configuration tab says:
[02:08] <Guest91034> HD48x0 audio
[02:08] <Guest91034> Profile: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output
[02:08] <Guest91034> Internal Audio
[02:08] <Guest91034> Profile: Analog Stereo Duplex
[02:09] <KM0201> ok... try changing some options on "Internal Audio" (make sure you record where they are at now..)
[02:09] <KM0201> and play a long audio file, in case sound starts working (like a movie or something)
[02:09] <Guest91034> What should the setting be?
[02:09] <KM0201> Guest91034: mine is set to analog stereo duplex, and it works fine.
[02:09] <Guest91034> Oh hey it works now, I turned off the top profile, the HD48x0 audio
[02:09] <KM0201> :)
[02:10] <Guest91034> Thank you for your help
[02:10] <KM0201> np
[02:10] <L1nuxRules> thats what service restarts are for :)
[02:10] <Guest91034> But how did it get set to HD48x0 audio?
[02:10] <KM0201> Guest91034: now that i don't know.
[02:10] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: are you still rambling in yoru condescending tone?
[02:10] <Guest91034> huh
[02:10] <Guest91034> okay, thank you for your help
[02:11] <L1nuxRules> km > what ?
[02:11] <KM0201> Guest91034: you can try doing some googling, see if anything turns up.
[02:11] <L1nuxRules> km &> /dev/null
[02:11] <urlin2u> L1nuxRules, this is support not chat help or shut up.
 thats what service restarts are for :)   == is that really necessary? maybe you should install slackware
[02:11] <L1nuxRules> urlin ok
[02:12] <L1nuxRules> km thats 2 sentances put in to m1
[02:12] <L1nuxRules> 1*
[02:12] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: well, i can't help i have to remind you what you said..
[02:13] <L1nuxRules> you put 2 of my sentances together to maker 1 sentance!
[02:13] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: stop being a douche, i copied one sentence, and you know it.
[02:13] <L1nuxRules> you didnt
[02:13] <apwbdjp> :) There we go again..
[02:13] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: after the [02:14] <KM0201> again, pay attention to what you're saying, it will help
[02:14] <urlin2u> KM0201, I wouldn't bother this user is just trolling, sooner or later to leave or be kicked.
[02:14] <L1nuxRules> I havent used any [02:14] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: yeah, i'm thinkiung i'm gonna have to exercise the ignore feature (fortunatley, i have to levae in about 10min, so i can tolerate his drivel)
[02:15] <L1nuxRules> oh well good night gui kid
[02:15]  * KM0201 chuckles... uses server editions.
[02:15] <L1nuxRules> and ?
[02:15] <KM0201> and.. i don't need a GUI.
[02:15] <qin> L1nuxRules: xchat is gui too
[02:15] <KM0201> i come here to help noobs (and not be condescending)
[02:15] <L1nuxRules> your still a noob :)
[02:15] <KM0201> qin: of course it is.
[02:15] <KM0201> i like xchat.
[02:16] <qin> KM0201: Apparently L1nuxRules too.
[02:16] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: ok.. isn't it bedtime yet?
[02:16] <theborger> someone lend a hand on getting audio output through HDMI?
[02:16] <L1nuxRules> yeah of course because you know the diff cli gui
[02:17] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: lol, ok sunshine... i think mommy is calling, she has your milk and cookies ready... i recommend "Curious George gets a clue" for your nighttime story.
[02:17] <theborger> iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, AD198x Digital IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
[02:17] <theborger> hdmi:CARD=NVidia HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 HDMI Audio Output
[02:17] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, we completely understand, you are very bored and have really nothing else to do. Go have some sleep, better for you.
[02:17] <teratoma> i think new ubuntu kernel mucked up my wireless again
[02:17] <theborger> nvidia shows up under sound preferences, and i have selected it, but no sound is coming out still
[02:17] <KM0201> teratoma: whats your wireless device
[02:17] <L1nuxRules> just know more than the new school gui kids
[02:18] <L1nuxRules> and you lot
[02:18] <L1nuxRules> about Linux not Ubuntu
[02:20] <teratoma> KM0201:  Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[02:20] <L1nuxRules> Im not here to cuse harm
[02:20] <KM0201> teratoma: hmm, surprised that one is having issues.. they usually "just work"... thats a fairly old device
[02:20] <teratoma> me too!  i just went back to preivous kernel... everything is great.
[02:21] <Taev> is there a way to preassign specific memory limitations on an application, say telling application X may not use more than Y amount of memory.
[02:21] <theborger> Anyone? please?
[02:22] <Taev> what was your question theborger?
[02:22] <theborger> someone lend a hand on getting audio output through HDMI?
[02:22] <theborger> hdmi:CARD=NVidia HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 HDMI Audio Output
[02:22] <theborger> nvidia shows up under sound preferences, and i have selected it, but no sound is coming out still
[02:22] <urlin2u> theborger, you will have to have some patience
[02:24] <theborger> i am using 10.04. i updated alsa, have the Nvidia drivers installed
[02:24] <Friar> how can I make a startup disk with a thumb drive?
[02:25] <mod> Evening all
[02:25] <mod> how do you change the window-raise behavior when using Gnome Classic on 11.10?
[02:25] <mod> i'd like to stop windows from raising on mouse over
[02:25] <theborger> running alsamixer, HDA intel card is still listed
[02:25] <jedix> Friar: unetbootin
[02:25] <urlin2u> Friar, what is the OS you want to do this in?
[02:25] <mod> I see the window-focus switch for mouserouver, but not raise
[02:26] <Friar> urlin2u, I am in ubuntu 11.10.
[02:26] <urlin2u> Friar, use the startup disc creator
[02:26] <jedix> ?
[02:26]  * jedix checks his mic
[02:27] <ubuntu> how to use the persistence memory in the usb start up disk
[02:27] <nadiyama> Hi, is there any GUI for services in 11.10?
[02:27] <urlin2u> ubuntu, you asking how?
[02:27] <xangua> !usb | ubuntu
[02:28] <mod> persistance? if the stick is writable, it is persistent
[02:29] <urlin2u> Friar, the one I suggest only works for ubuntu check the bots message, if it is a windows ISO ten it is all different.
[02:29] <mod> works just lke a hard drive, same configuration as when you last shutdown
[02:29] <urlin2u> then*
[02:29] <ubuntu> It cannot mount
[02:29] <nadiyama> Hi, is there any GUI for start/stop/disable/enable services in 11.10?
[02:30] <Yagwit> I d/l'd the uninstall UB OS through terminal. When I click the link it tells "Please use this software in a live session". What does that mean?
[02:30] <urlin2u> mod, not necessarily true with ISO loads.
[02:31] <bonhoffer> i have a problem -- apps are not visible when started
[02:31] <Friar> urlin2u, sorry, I should have specified. I'm trying to make a linux mint startup stick.
[02:31] <bonhoffer> in particular is an app called rubymine
[02:32] <urlin2u> Friar, unetbootin is what will work then, did you see the bots message?
[02:33] <ubuntu> it always says no more memory and even it shows but cannot mount the persistence part of it
[02:33] <sasori> are the tty1-6 running on background ?
[02:33] <sasori> if so, how to shut them down ?
[02:34] <PsyCl0ne> good evening all, I recently just installed Lubuntu onto an older computer but all of a sudden without any known changes it now has a black box on the top right of my monitor where the mouse or any screens disappear under
[02:34] <apwbdjp> sasori, why shut them down?
[02:34] <urlin2u> ubuntu, the persisitance will fill up and can't be cleaned, are you actually talking to some one?
[02:34] <Gskellig> does anybody know how to get xbox360 controller working on ubuntu?
[02:34] <bonhoffer> really, no gui based way to install a luncher?
[02:35] <urlin2u> bonhoffer, on the desktop?
[02:35] <sasori> apwbdjp: i just want to, am just wondering if those eat alot of memory?
[02:35] <KillaByte> Does anyone use slackware?Is it as great as they make it seem?
[02:35] <bonhoffer> urlin2u, it looks like i have to edit the .desktop file
[02:35] <KillaByte> .join ##linux
[02:35] <bonhoffer> this is fine for me, but not for my mom
[02:35] <bonhoffer> i thought ubuntu 11.10 was going to be public accessible
[02:35] <apwbdjp> sasori, if you're not logged in them, I think they're just instances of "login", which isn't much consuming in memory
[02:36] <urlin2u> bonhoffer, if you mean a launcher on the desktop I saw this link a couple of days ago. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[02:36] <apwbdjp> sasori, if you're logged, it would be an instance of bash, which is pretty light too.
[02:36] <sasori> apwbdjp: how to log out in any of them if there's one running ?
[02:36] <apwbdjp> sasori, ctrl+d
[02:37] <bonhoffer> urlin2u, that is nice -- but still, why make it so hard -- right click on the launcher and "add new"
[02:37] <sasori> ok, if let's say, am logged in tty1 ...then i got back at gnome view..if i restarted my machine..am i still logged in to tty1 ?
[02:37] <urlin2u> bonhoffer, not sure why that was removed, I have my own ways of having one.
[02:38] <apwbdjp> sasori, no, during the shutdown sequence everyone is logged out
[02:38] <bonhoffer> anyway -- that is a nit, the big problem is i'm starting an app and it comes up in launcher, but i can't see it
[02:38] <bonhoffer> it has a status
[02:38] <sasori> kewl! :D ..thanks
[02:38] <bonhoffer> oh -- found it -- it is on a phantom desktop "unknown" that i can't remove
[02:38] <urlin2u> bonhoffer, you might try logging off then on I have seen the desktop act weird.
[02:39] <bonhoffer> tried that -- this is a persistent issue
[02:39] <apwbdjp> sasori, anytime ^^
[02:39] <urlin2u> bonhoffer, you can remove it probably with a gksu nautilus just make sure that is what you want to do.
[02:40] <apwbdjp> Leaving! Good night everyone!
[02:40] <Yagwit> I d/l'd the uninstall UB OS through terminal. When I click the link it tells "Please use this software in a live session". What does that mean? What are the uninstaller steps?
[02:40] <mod> wow there's so many things that the THREE gnome and compwiz utilities I have cannot confiure
[02:40] <PsyCl0ne> gnight apw
[02:41] <urlin2u> Yagwit, could you explain that in more detail.
[02:42] <jasef> Hey - anyone happen to know why Tomboy is trying to use a proxy when my system default is set to no proxy
[02:42] <jasef> ?
[02:42] <urlin2u> Yagwit, no abbreviations would help
[02:43] <Hjax> How can I recover my windows 7 installation from Ubuntu?
[02:43] <mod> depends on what's wrong with it
[02:43] <Hjax> mod: mbr is gone, NTFS is corrupted
[02:44] <soreau> Hjax: Are you just not able to load it at boot time or what?
[02:44] <urlin2u> Hjax, can you give more info, is the windows not bootable or broken?
[02:44] <Hjax> Broken
[02:44] <urlin2u> Hjax, if a dual boot you can open the windows partition from home if it is not a wubi.
[02:44] <Yagwit> urlin2u: sorry
[02:45] <Hjax> Basically I tried to remove my Ubuntu dual boot, and needed to put back windows boot loader, tried to do it from Ubuntu and failed, and also corrupted NTFS
[02:45] <Yagwit> urlin2u: I have only ubuntu 10.10... I want to uninstall it
[02:45] <Hjax> urlin2u: file system is corrupted, not appearing in home
[02:45] <bonhoffer> for example, i launch xsensors, but i can't see it
[02:45] <urlin2u> Hjax, you have a windows recovery or install disc the windows bootloader could be put in the mbr.
[02:45] <bonhoffer> it is in the launcher
[02:46] <jasef> Hjax, urlin2u if it's wubi, you can still open the filesystem, it's usually mounted in /host if I remember correctly
[02:46] <urlin2u> jasef, I know
[02:46] <jasef> urlin2u, Oh, okay, sorry.
[02:46] <Hjax> urlin2u: OS installed OEM, no recovery on disks, can only reinstall
[02:46] <Hjax> I just want my data back before I reinstall
[02:47] <mod> Hjax, you could use ubuntu to write a new mbr, but if NTFS is corrupted there's not much you can do
[02:47] <urlin2u> Yagwit, you want to install something else just install over it.
[02:47] <mod> you can try to mount it and pull off accessible files
[02:47] <Hjax> mod: trying to use Ubuntu to do that is what I believe corrupted my mbr
[02:47] <Hjax> File system*
[02:47] <urlin2u> Hjax, you can open the windopws with a booted ubuntu cd
[02:48] <mod> hjax, the two OS's are on the same computer?
[02:48] <Hjax> Mod: yes
[02:48] <mod> Hjax, as root, list the partition table: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:48] <urlin2u> Hjax, you also may be able to use3 lilo a linux bootmanager in the mbr to boot the windows as well.
[02:48] <mod> see which one is your windows partition
[02:48] <bonhoffer> anyone know why xsensors is totally empty
[02:48] <mod> often its the first one
[02:49] <Yagwit> urlin2u: Sorry so slow...I need to uninstall Ubuntu and re-install windows for my hub..he wants linux gone now
[02:49] <Hjax> Test
[02:49] <Yagwit> I'm still going to use and learn it on my own pc
[02:49] <Hjax> It's /dev/sda2
[02:49] <urlin2u> Yagwit, you can delete linux from the windows cd or boot a ubuntu cd and do it from gparted.
[02:49] <mod> hjax, you can mount it manually   mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[02:49] <Hjax> LILO has been tried, also failed
[02:49] <mod> you might have to specify the filesyste,    mount -t nfts /dev/sda2 /mnt
[02:50] <Yagwit> urlin2u: What do I choose from the ubuntu to use gparted
[02:51] <Hjax> mod: NTFS signature is missing
[02:51] <urlin2u> Yagwit, the live cd has gparted intalled, turn off the swap if there is one and delete all partitions, which may include a extended.
[02:51] <Yagwit> urlin2u: my options are Try Ubuntu and Install Ubuntu (from cd)
[02:51] <LinuxMobile> Awe lol
[02:51] <urlin2u> Yagwit, try ubuntu I see your question now. :D
[02:52] <kang_> hello
[02:52] <urlin2u> kang_, are you here to harm the earthlings?
[02:52] <PsyCl0ne> Hjax: Have you tried http://www.ntfs.com/partition-recovery-concepts.htm??
[02:52] <PsyCl0ne> http://www.ntfs.com/partition-recovery-concepts.htm     **
[02:53] <jasef> I'm getting really annoyed with Tomboy now - is there a specific support channel for it or for Mono?
[02:53] <biggerfisch> whats the sun jvm package called again?
[02:53] <urlin2u> kang_, if your not familiar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kang_and_Kodos
[02:53] <jc_2> hello guys, i want to install some windows fonts. How can i do it?
[02:53] <mod> you are able to boot ubuntu, but what happens when you try to boot windows?  I fyou can reboot and still boot ubuntu, your MBR is fine
[02:54] <jc_2> I'm using ubuntu 11.10
[02:54] <aeon-ltd> biggerfisch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:54] <biggerfisch> aeon-ltd: ty
[02:55] <urlin2u> jc_2, the restricted-extras installs some
[02:55] <Hjax> mod: I can boot Ubuntu now, but windows isnt even showing in grub, >.>
[02:55] <Hjax> I got Ubuntu back on my pc,
[02:55] <jc_2> but a friend have other that i need, so i need to know how to install them
[02:56] <jc_2> I already installed the restricted extras
[02:57] <urlin2u> Hjax, you might run the bootscript it will show the whole setup with important, details so we can see what is missing, put the results.txt in a pastebin.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[02:57] <Hjax> Brb
[02:59] <urlin2u> jc_2, can you identify a specific ms font package, or is this just a whim and you don't know?
[02:59] <jc_2> i can identify
[02:59] <jc_2> I have them in a usb
[02:59] <urlin2u> jc_2, good what is it and in what format?
[03:00] <Yagwit> urlin2u: after try ubuntu, what do I do to start gparted?
[03:00] <urlin2u> Yagwit, it is in the menu.
[03:00] <jc_2> ttf , and otf are the formats
[03:01] <Yagwit> urlin2u: system settings?
[03:01] <urlin2u> Yagwit, what is the release your booting
[03:01] <Yagwit> 10.10
[03:01] <urlin2u> Yagwit, in prefernces opr admin
[03:02] <atcho> I have an ssh connection to a linux machine which is hibernated after some non-activity time.
[03:02] <atcho> I want to make it resume, how do I do that?
[03:02] <Yagwit> urlin2u: i'm looking....
[03:04] <taoli> atcho i think you have to do wol
[03:04] <urlin2u> jc_2, truetype fonts are installed by the restricted extras I believe
[03:05] <jc_2> but i need other like, scriptin
[03:05] <truepurple>  system monitor speaks of available space, and free space, and these are different numbers, what is the difference?
[03:05] <atcho> taoli: Li Tao? hahaa. In fact, I am trying to us cron to resume the standby system
[03:06] <pfifo> truepurple, by default ext2 reserves 5% disk space for root
[03:06] <urlin2u> jc_2, okay so where do we go from here.
[03:06] <hjax> mod: im back
[03:06] <truepurple> pfifo, so free space is the total unused space minus that 5%?
[03:07] <jasef> Anyone able to tell me how to change the proxy that Mono (or Tomboy) is using? System proxy is off, but it's still trying to connect
[03:07] <pfifo> truepurple, i would have to see the numbers to know for sure
[03:07] <taoli> atcho: yeah Li, Tao : ) but i like towlie better, not sure how to do that with cron sorry
[03:08] <truepurple> pfifo, but the meanings of the terms wouldn't change
[03:08] <atcho> thanks taoli
[03:08] <Hjax> mod: you still here?
[03:08] <atcho> anyone have a Kindle ?
[03:09] <taoli> hey i think you can use this, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wake-cron.html
[03:09] <pfifo> truepurple, Im guessing that available space takes into account reserved space and any disk quotas you have, and free space represents all space that isnt in use
[03:09] <taoli> its a builtin kernel utility
[03:09] <atcho> taoli sth about acpi maybe help, but i know little about it
[03:09] <urlin2u> jc_2, I don't do pming, and this is an area I am not really the best to ask,  was basically trying to answer your basic questiob=ns.
[03:10] <jc_2> ok thank you man
[03:10] <mod> hey hjax
[03:10] <Yagwit> Try Ubuntu doesn't allow any changes though, right?
[03:10] <truepurple> pfifo, can you help me figure out how to install a mplayer front end like gmplayer? It seems it is not as easy as one might think
[03:11] <jc_2> but what could happen  if i paste them inside the folder?
[03:11] <mod> Yagwit you can certainly use it to change thingsi fyou try :)
[03:11] <pfifo> truepurple, sorry, i always us the cli. VLC works well if you need a gui
[03:12] <urlin2u> Yagwit, correct you are runing a iso, yu have to do changes to save them or delete the hd.
[03:12] <Yagwit> mod: I want to uninstall ubuntu 10.10 ... I was told to used both OS uninstaller and Gparted
[03:12] <hjax> mod: ok so what script do i have to run?
[03:12] <jc_2> can I just download them and make click to install them?
[03:12] <Yagwit> urlin2u: I found gparted
[03:13] <truepurple> pfifo, cli? VLC hasnt been working well for me
[03:13] <mod> hjax, i dont think ubuntu can save you, it sounds like an internal nfts issue
[03:13] <pfifo> truepurple, i mean i use mplayer from the terminal
[03:13] <mod> it might have some ntfs tools, i dont know
[03:13] <urlin2u> Yagwit, never heard of the OS unistaller, just take a screen shot of gparted screen shot is in the menu put it in a imagebin and post the http and I will tell you what is going on.
[03:14] <urlin2u> !imagebin | Yagwit
[03:14] <mod> I dont use windows for anything important... if it goes bad, i just reinstall an image
[03:14] <hjax> hmmm ok, theres nothing on there that i cant live without, but id like my stuff back
[03:14] <urlin2u> hjax, can yo run the bootscript?
[03:15] <hjax> urlin2u: link?
[03:15] <urlin2u> hjax, or just pull stuff out with the live ubuntu cd
[03:15] <hjax> urlin2u: i cant, it is spitting out errors, i cant even mount it
[03:16] <MTecknology> bug 819688
[03:16] <mod> hjax i like to use a windows ext2 mounter and use ext2 or 3 with inode sizes set to 128 bytes
[03:16] <atcho> taoli: it's very good
[03:16] <urlin2u> hjax,  you might run the bootscript it will show the whole setup with important, details so we can see what is missing, put the results.txt in a pastebin.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:16] <mod> then i can share my /home/myuser directory as Window's "My Documents"
[03:16] <mod> that way my personal stuff is on an ext filesystem, not fragile ntfs
[03:18] <urlin2u> hjax, you might see if you can get a windows disc and run a chkdsk at the least to get the ntfs cleaned up so it can be read from a live cd, the bootscript may show what your mising and this maybe fixed witha windows disc as well.
[03:18] <mod> i'm sorry i can no longer resist. i've tried to be good
[03:18] <mod> but Unity just plain sucks
[03:19] <semitones> Hello, how can I eject my USB when there seems to be some program accessing files on it? How can I tell all programs to stop doing that
[03:19] <urlin2u> hjax, you need the right tools to fix it.
[03:19] <hjax> urlin2u: i dont have a windows disk
[03:19] <hjax> urlin2u: boot info results http://pastebin.com/jnT6fzqq
[03:19] <mod> and Gnome 3 Classic is like Gnome after castration and emasculation
[03:19] <urlin2u> hjax, sure but maybe a friend of your does.
[03:19] <hjax> my friends all use xp
[03:19] <bazhang> mod thats enough
[03:19] <hjax> urlin2u: and it failed to get any info of dev sda2
[03:20] <mod> heh at least i got it out before the bell ;)
[03:20] <tomreyn> hi, is there a known bug in 11.10 which causes ubuntu not to check for available (security or other) updates within the configured interval?
[03:21] <mod> 11.10 isn't being supported anymore, that's why
[03:21] <mod> juuuust kidding ;)
[03:21] <mod> actually, i've noticed that the update manage isn't acosting me every few hours either
[03:22] <mod> which would be find if the kinks of various things (like Sandybridge problems) had already been ironed out
[03:22] <mod> s/find/fine/
[03:22] <HaDAk> join #xbmc
[03:22] <HaDAk> ack.
[03:23] <mod> isn't that one of this risque channels?  eewww
[03:23] <mod> s/this/those/
[03:23] <tomreyn> sandybridge is somewhat new. and if you have toruble with it it's a kernel issue. mine is about the python APT infrastructure, quite different.
[03:23] <mod> which are both distro issues
[03:24] <hjax> can i run chkdsk from ubuntu?
[03:24] <tomreyn> if the distribution is affected by it, yes
[03:24] <mod> tomreyn, in both cases, yes
[03:24] <tomreyn> (i was responding to mod)
[03:24] <mod> jhax, there are some windows fs tools
[03:25] <mod> hjax, do you have a boot disk for your windows install? *cough*
[03:25] <urlin2u> hjax, until you can clean up the sda2 so it shows Linux is of no help here, you need a wins=dows disc to run a chkdsk and repair to boot if it will or be accessed with a linux disc.
[03:26] <mod> ^^^ what he said
[03:26] <HaDAk> can somebody help to explain why ONLY dolby digital 5.1 sound plays for me? ubuntu 11.10, nvidia ion with latest binary driver, over hdmi
[03:26] <tomreyn> hjax: you want fsck.something where 'something is either vfat or ntfs, in the latter case you don't want to do it from linux but from the windows recovery CD
[03:26] <hjax> i have a reinstall disk set, no recovery option, stupid hp
[03:27] <mod> hjax, look up scroungentfs
[03:27] <mod> p   scrounge-ntfs                                        - Data recovery program for NTFS filesystems
[03:27] <hjax> i couldnt figure out how to use it
[03:27] <tomreyn> hjax: reinstall disk set may work, too, but that's off-topic here, try #windows
[03:27] <milkshake> #join  #perl
[03:27] <mod> well your attempt puts you one step ahead of me :)
[03:28] <hjax> mod: ok its installed what now?
[03:28] <milkshake> hi
[03:28] <urlin2u> hjax, those recovery discs are supposed to get you to a recovery console if following MS orders I' getting a thumb drive from acer as theres wouldn't and the got sued for this, you might contact HP, to see if it is possible to run a chkdsk with the discs you have, and back up next time and make a recovery disc.
[03:28] <mod> like i said, you're one step ahead of me.  i've never used it
[03:28] <mod> hjax, also there are man windows boot images out there
[03:28] <hjax> urlin2: they charge extra for a real windows disk set,
[03:28] <mod> free ones...
[03:29] <milkshake> really need help on how to transfer files between phones on a mobile network
[03:29] <hjax> where?
[03:29] <sasori> hi , any other properties that can be set on vimrc aside from these ? http://www.pastie.org/2850542
[03:29] <hjax> ok i give up, ill take the loss and reinstall tomorrow morning
[03:29] <mod> ubcd i think 'ultimate boot disk' or something... YOU *could* google "windows boot disk" heh
[03:30] <jrib> sasori: of course...
[03:30] <urlin2u> hjax, you can make a recovery disc for free once and a backup once free, try the ##windows channel as well.
[03:30] <hjax> hmmm i could use ubcd
[03:30] <sasori> need help..can you point me to it? T_T
[03:30] <mod>  #help
[03:30] <jrib> sasori: :help   in vim
[03:30] <kamilnadeem> Hi Everyone
[03:31] <mod> where of where has my gnome config gone
[03:31] <mod> and my typing skills
[03:31] <tomreyn> milkshake: you probably want dome kind of file transfer daemon, such as an FTPd, so that one canaccess the others' files. that's assuming one can access the other in terms of network topology.
[03:31] <kamilnadeem> guys, I have created a new Blog about Linux and FOSS: http://mknadeem.blogspot.com/ .
[03:31] <kamilnadeem> Please check it and share if you find it interesting or informative.
[03:31] <rypervenche> sasori: Check /etc/vim/vimrc
[03:31] <jrib> kamilnadeem: please don't do that again, this channel is for support
[03:31] <kamilnadeem> Also The First post introduces non FOSS people to our very own Ubuntu .
[03:31] <bazhang> kamilnadeem, wrong place for that
[03:31] <urlin2u> !spam | kamilnadeem
[03:32] <kamilnadeem> Sorry , I should go to the discussion channel;
[03:32] <rypervenche> sasori: Or you can use the list here, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Vimrc
[03:32] <kamilnadeem> my bad
[03:32] <kamilnadeem> please accept my apology
[03:32] <Yagwit> the pc still has grub..is that going to be a problem when I install windows back on it?
[03:32] <atcho> hi anyone using a Kindle e-ink book?
[03:32] <milkshake> tomreyn: ok. thanks but i want something programmable
[03:32] <rypervenche> sasori: I personally do "cp /etc/vim/vimrc ~/.vimrc" then edit it to my liking.
[03:33] <tomreyn> milkshake: how is ftp not scriptable (I assume that's what you mean)?
[03:34] <milkshake> tomreyn: i am writing a script to send a file to another phone . is it possible to get the ip address of the receiving and send the file to the phone?
[03:34] <mod> hallelujah: /apps/metacity/general
[03:34] <sasori> thanks for the list rypervenche  :D
[03:34] <mod> atcho, just ask your question
[03:34] <milkshake> tomreyn: *receiving phone
[03:34] <tomreyn> milkshake: i couldn't tell, because i don't know the network setup you have there.
[03:36] <milkshake> tomreyn: how about  we assume generic/abstract network. how do you think such a thing should work?
[03:36] <mod> hah
[03:36] <atcho> mod, i am trying to use cron on kindle( linux system buildin) but failed. the problem is cron cannot run program when in standby status, so i want to wake up(also by cron) then do sth else
[03:36] <tomreyn> milkshake: both systems run ubuntu?
[03:36] <milkshake> tomreyn: i am actually going to programme in Java or any language that can gracefully deploy over a wireless network
[03:37] <milkshake> tomreyn: no
[03:37] <bazhang> atcho, how does that relate to ubuntu
[03:37] <NewGuy> I have a question ?
[03:37] <tomreyn> milkshake: which one does?
[03:37] <mod> atcho, huh i'd imagine cron doesn't wake during slepp...
[03:37] <atcho> bazhang: oh may a little. also based on linux
[03:37] <milkshake> tomreyn: the phones could be blackberry, android, windows mobile etc...
[03:38] <tomreyn> milkshake: you are wasting my time asking this on #ubuntu
[03:38] <bazhang> atcho, try a kindle channel or #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:38] <bazhang> !alis | atcho
[03:38] <NewGuy> how do you do pan around with a backdrop picture with the cd cube cant figure it out?
[03:38] <NewGuy> ah
[03:38] <atcho> mod really? in standby status, cron do nothin at all?
[03:39] <milkshake> tomreyn: ooh ok. lol. just needed a way to get this thing working.
[03:39] <bazhang> atcho, please stop asking here, it's offtopic
[03:39] <NewGuy> again how do you do the pan around  the backdrop picture with the 3D cube?
[03:39] <atcho> bazhang: sorry. I donot agree with you
[03:39] <OerHeks> NewGuy, install CCSM to enable background pictures
[03:39] <dr_willis> milkshake: i just use ssh and dyndns to get stuff to and frim my phone to ubuntu
[03:40] <OerHeks> !ccsm
[03:40] <milkshake> tomreyn: thanks btw. will look for help elsewhere
[03:40] <tomreyn> milkshake: this is not #helpwithanythingwhichhaseletroniccircuits
[03:40] <tomreyn> ok
[03:40] <bazhang> atcho, kindle has nothing to do with ubuntu. lets move on
[03:40] <milkshake> @tomreyn: ook
[03:40] <tomreyn> good luck then
[03:41] <NewGuy> typte latter in the search of compiz?
[03:41] <milkshake> tomreyn:  know where i can read on how to get ssh and dydns working?
[03:41] <atcho> mr zhang, kindle also have root shell, and i was  familiar with it when i using ubuntu
[03:41] <dr_willis> Toms of guides on ssh out there
[03:42] <tomreyn> milkshake: did you try a search engine, yet?
[03:42] <dr_willis> Dyndns homepage  for that
[03:42] <milkshake> tomreyn: ofcourse.. lol
[03:42] <atcho> bazhang: and also I am using ssh to connect to kindle
[03:43] <tomreyn> milkshake: "man ssh" for the ssh client manual, and for dyndns read the instructions the dyndns provider offers.
[03:43] <atcho> bazhang: oh...
[03:44] <atcho> bazhang: i just want some help
[03:44] <bazhang> atcho, this is the wrong place for it. please stop asking
[03:44] <dr_willis> There's always #linux
[03:44] <edbian> ?
[03:44] <w30> NewGuy, you wnat ccsm-desktop cube-appearance-skydome-animate skydome
[03:45] <NewGuy> in terminal
[03:45] <milkshake> tomreyn: thanks. Already on it.
[03:46] <atcho> bazhang: okay, then I ask question on how to use cron to wake up ubuntu  at 6:00 every moring if ubuntu is in standy status
[03:46] <NewGuy> ccsm-desktop cube-appearance-skydone-animate skydome i type that in teminal?
[03:46] <Roter1337> I used to love ubuntu, but I realise that oneric ocelot is their worst release yet
[03:47] <bazhang> Roter1337, thats not a support issue
[03:47] <w30> NewGuy, no in GUI; open ccsm (compiz config settings manager) then navigate to desktop cube then skydome then animate skydome
[03:47] <qubits> how do I mount mount my fakeraid raid0 volume without clicking it in kde under places?
[03:47] <mod> atcho: rtcwake
[03:47] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto atcho
[03:47] <edbian> Roter1337: I used to love ubuntu but <insert x> is the worst release yet
[03:47] <urlin2u> NewGuy, that is all in the compiz gui desktopcube is a plugin.
[03:48] <fellayaboy> could someone help me out.. ive used gparted to try to add the freespace to my ext4 ubuntu partiion..i had 2 partitions that were unallocated freespace and it started from cylinder 0.. all the way on the left.. that section that started from their was never recognized when i tried to resize my ubuntu partion
[03:48] <atcho> bazhang: sorry you cannot help me. i can use cron itself
[03:48] <atcho> mod, yes it helps
[03:48] <qubits> whats compiz fusion
[03:48] <fellayaboy> however i did get the other chunk of partition to get added to my ubuntu partition..it was the one adjacent to my ubuntus partion
[03:48] <qubits> aside from compiz
[03:49] <fellayaboy> qubits. its a bunch of nice graphic features
[03:49] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, can you post a image of gparted?
[03:49] <fellayaboy> urlin2u im not sure how to do that
[03:49] <mod> qubtibs, more stuff to make your computer overheat ;)
[03:49] <r0gue> Hello, I am getting a login screen with a blue background and a different login window,any guesses?
[03:49] <w30> qubits it's a start compiz if I click on this icon application
[03:49] <longcat> my control key doesnt work on my new ubuntu installation ...
[03:50] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, take a screen shot with prtscreen or the screen shot app and put it in imagebin and post the http. http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[03:50] <longcat> or something. how do i reconfigure the keyboard settings?
[03:50] <fellayaboy> i think compiz fusion its compiz..the only thing was that compiz fusion was old and got integrated with another compiz thingyamagigy
[03:50] <debsan> qubits, is the fusion from compiz and beryl ?
[03:50] <longcat> the same settings from install time
[03:50] <fellayaboy> urlin2u, ok brb
[03:50] <w30> qubits, with a few choices like window manager and indirect rendering
[03:51] <qubits> shouldi get it?
[03:51] <corigo> So I setup a RAID5 array, and after reboot I don't even get to the authentification screen, instead I drop out at a command line (initramfs)
[03:51] <r0gue> Hello, I am getting a login screen with a blue background and a different login window,any guesses?
[03:51] <qubits> I'm running backtrack and I want gnome3
[03:51] <bazhang> qubits, #backtrack-linux for bt support
[03:51] <urlin2u> r0gue, you changed anything?
[03:52] <corigo> to specify 11.10, RAID array does not include boot disk
[03:52] <fellayaboy> http://imagebin.org/183732
[03:52] <fellayaboy> urlin2u, ^^
[03:52] <r0gue> it is sort of like dos mode i have to manually enter my username and i also cant see my mouse pointer
[03:54] <r0gue> it is sort of like dos mode i have to manually enter my username and i also cant see my mouse pointer urlin2u
[03:55] <tomreyn> corigo: how did you set the RAID up?
[03:55] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, you would have to move both the ntfs to the left then the extended to the left the the ubuntu to the left. YOU will do this from a live cd for the ubuntu and turn off the swap when doing it, and you may have to reload grub to the mbr if your fstab has a uuid rather then a partition address.
[03:55] <fellayaboy> ah man
[03:56] <fellayaboy> how do i even turn off a swap
[03:56] <fellayaboy> and whats a uuid
[03:56] <fellayaboy> urlin2u, this is gonna be harder than i thought
[03:56] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, you can put a partition in that space though if a ntfs windows and ubuntu will see it.
[03:57] <edbian> fellayaboy: uuid is just a unique ID for a partition
[03:57] <fellayaboy> oh ok
[03:57] <fellayaboy> how about turning off a swap
[03:57] <fellayaboy> whats that
[03:57] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, not that hard just time consuming really.
[03:57] <edbian> fellayaboy: swap is a section of the hdd used when there is no more room in ram.  run 'swapoff' to turn it off (it will be back on when you reboot)
[03:58] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, swap is the sda6 partition you just right click it then swap off.
[03:58] <fellayaboy> man.  could i get away with this using windows 7 parition editor...it works extremely fast..maybe i could hack it ...make it move the freespace to the right
[03:58] <r0gue> urlin2u i am basically getting blue login background but no mouse
[03:58] <edbian> fellayaboy: or use gparted like urlin2u suggested
[03:58] <fellayaboy> ooh ok ok
[03:58] <corigo> using mdadm
[03:58] <fellayaboy> but wait..
[03:58] <w30> qubits, get it and try it you can always remove it
[03:58] <urlin2u> r0gue, not sure really, sounds like you tried to change a background.
[03:59] <r0gue> yes i changed the background
[03:59] <Brunchi> Hi there! I want to build micro-emacs from source (got the git-repo from linus) and I get the error-message: "cannot find -lcurses" when 'make'ing the source. I got ncurses installed...
[03:59] <fellayaboy> i was thinking to myself maybe i have to move the freespace to the right...how am i suppose to move the ntfs to the side.. i was looking for a move command, or a way to grab it with the mouse
[03:59] <urlin2u> r0gue, ah the plot thickens, can you just change it back?
[03:59] <fellayaboy> ..and then move it
[04:00] <r0gue> i need to try
[04:00] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, in gparted you can move the two ntfs as they are to the left
[04:01] <fellayaboy> (sigh) alright ...thank you very much urlin2u
[04:01] <fellayaboy> why is it that the windows 7 parition editor seems to work like magic..i mean bam boom blam...u can shrink, extend and delete in the blink of an eye
[04:02] <fellayaboy> all without having to reboot into a medium
[04:02] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, no problem just right click the ntfs the resize/move and move the whole partition, this all takes a little time is all set asside about q hour and a half probably more or less.
[04:02] <fellayaboy> geezz
[04:02] <NewGuy> i did it
[04:02] <NewGuy> and i got gears
[04:03] <fellayaboy> oh ok urlin2u  im doing something like that right now
[04:03] <atcho> mod, i am tesing cron, added a line like "* * * * * date > ~/date-test-cron", then i put the kindle to sleep
[04:03] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, it happens good luck. :D
[04:03] <fellayaboy> im moving the ntfs SYSTEM RESERVED to the left in ubuntus gparted
[04:03] <corigo> tomreyn what specifics can I give you to better clarify? 3 devices RAID5, I do see that it states Active devices 2, Working devices 3, and "spare rebuilding"
[04:03] <atcho> mod, i will tell you the result.
[04:03] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, yeah move the sda1 first then the sda2
[04:03] <jeffubuntulinux> Is Gnome 3 any Faster then Unity? Ive heard mixed answers.
[04:04] <fellayaboy> so once im booted into ntfs turn off the swap from gparted by right clicking it u said
[04:04] <fellayaboy> once im booted into gparted i meant ot say
[04:04] <corigo> jeffubuntulinux: if you want a nice desktop try KDE
[04:05] <jeffubuntulinux> corigo, is KDE any faster now? last time I tried KDE 4 it was like eh seemed sluggish but that was like a year ago
[04:05] <cloudgeek> HIIII
[04:05] <fellayaboy> could i reload/reinstall grub using gparted or do i need the ubuntu live cd
[04:05] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, you can only turn off the swap from ubuntu you can move those from gparted in the installed ubuntu, if you have ubuntu installed. To resize the extended partition containing the ubuntu you will neeed a live ubuntu cd, or a gparted on a disc
[04:06] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, you don't use gparted for grub, a live ubuntu cd will work, or you can edit thhe fstab before you move the ubuntu partition.
[04:06] <jeffubuntulinux> corigo, you running KDE right now?
[04:06] <corigo> yes
[04:07] <jeffubuntulinux> corigo, any problems? its kubuntu I presume
[04:07] <fellayaboy> man, what do i have to edit in the fstab
[04:07] <yeats> jeffubuntulinux: if you want speedy and lighter weight, you might want to try xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:08] <tomreyn> corigo: you could provide a lot more info: is this a hardware, or fakeraid, or a software raid? if a software raid, did you set it up using the ubuntu installer, or did yuou manually setup your md RAID? which ubuntu version are you on?
[04:08] <jeffubuntulinux> yeats, oh no i dont want to use either of those, im a quad core with a AT HD 4890..so my pc is fine, idk Unity something about it I dont like lol, but I was curious beyond that about KDE if it was any better speed wise then gnome3 or unity now
[04:08] <w30> yeats, have you used lxde?
[04:09] <corigo> Just built a new system with 11.10 and KDE 4.7.2 on an SSD and I don't know if it is 11.10 or 4.7.2 but there are little quirks. It is fast and beautiful, and I'm excited for the plans for version 5
[04:09] <fellayaboy> better yet ima move windows partition from windows 7 and see if i can get away with that...and then move the freespace over near ubunuts partition... if i can... all i know is that partition editor works extremely fast...brb
[04:09] <atcho> mod, the result is cron can delay!(on my kinle)
[04:09] <yeats> w30: not for long, but yes, I've used it some
[04:09] <corigo> but I am having trouble setting up my software RAID
[04:09] <yeats> jeffubuntulinux: understood
[04:09] <jeffubuntulinux> Ill give Kubuntu a try see if its any good
[04:10] <corigo> I tried OpenSuse with Gnome and is was painfully slow
[04:10] <w30> yeats, I got xubuntu at the moment but I don't like the double clicking instead of a consistant single click
[04:10] <ImTheDude> how is ment now compared to ubuntu
[04:11] <w30> yeats, I can get single click inside the file manager but not on the desktop
[04:11] <edbian> ImTheDude: It's better
[04:11] <urlin2u> fellayaboy, open fstab with gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   you will see at the beginning of the ubuntu partition this here is mine UUID=6ec94721-b128-43f2-8715-e1acbcedb302  replace just that part with  /dev/sda5
[04:12] <corigo> Hmm, so now I've got this RAID5 array running, how do I mount it at boot?
[04:12] <urlin2u> fellaso you replace the UUID and the number letter set with the /dev/sda5 make sure your doing the correct line though you can run in the terminal blkd to see the indentical uuid
[04:13] <r0gue> urlin2u i cant even change my login background
[04:13] <atcho> mod, i set '5 * * * * date>date-test-flie" in cron, i opened it at 12:07(at 12:05 it is in standby status),and  and find the file content "Sat Nov 12 12:07:14 CST 2011". I cannot solve the problem now
[04:14] <w30> yeats, I want to stay away from the applications menu that consumes my whole 24 in screen and still has to scroll
[04:14] <urlin2u> r0gue, not sure of the fix sorry.
[04:14] <corigo> Or maybe more to the point why after reboot is my RAID array no longer md0 but now md127?
[04:14] <w30> yeats, both Unity and Gnome3
[04:16] <bkerensa> I have a friend who has a audiophile 2496 and it is not producing any sound but is showing in audio settings. He is running 11.10
[04:17] <arnab> hi i just updated. i can't find the application menu anymore.
[04:17] <arnab> is this the ubuntu help channel?
[04:18] <MK`> arnab: yes.
[04:18] <urlin2u> arnab, yep what release?
[04:18] <arnab> 11.10 - i think there is something new called unity (i read about it) bar on the left
[04:18] <arnab> but i can't find the application menu anymore. has it been discontinued? (i hope it exists somewhere...)
[04:19] <urlin2u> arnab, in the left panel at the top is the dash button click it then type what app you need.
[04:19] <arnab> but i don't exactly remember what i need
[04:19] <urlin2u> arnab, you can get that dash with the windows key as well.
[04:19] <r0gue> i cannot change my login background, am getting a blue background with no mouse pointer and also i have to enter my username manually
[04:20] <arnab> it was the system application installer, i knew very well where it was in the menu but don't remember name. typing 'System' doesn't get me anything on the dashboard :(
[04:21] <McFisher> Greetings.
[04:21] <ParadigmUltra> Hi everyone
[04:21] <McFisher> I was wondering if I could ask a quick IRC question.
[04:21] <urlin2u> arnab, you want the softwrae center to install apps type that n the dash.
[04:21] <urlin2u> software*
[04:22] <urlin2u> McFisher, you can try hehe.
[04:22] <arnab> i am looking for the more detailed software installer that i could access before, which lists all the packages
[04:22] <arnab> ok this is not working. i think my best shot is to get the application  menus back. is there an option to get it back?
[04:22] <ParadigmUltra> McFisher, only one a day.  Thank you, come again.
[04:23] <Bonster> arnab: install synaptic
[04:23] <McFisher> AH! But I didn't ask a question.  Did you see a question mark, paradigmultra?
[04:23] <McFisher> wait.
[04:23] <McFisher> dang.
[04:23] <arnab> Bonster, yeah i think that's what i am looking for! forgot the name... Synaptic. thanks
[04:23] <ParadigmUltra> lol
[04:23] <arnab> i would really like to get the menus back - how can i do that?
[04:23] <urlin2u> arnab, this release does not have gnome2, it has been gone since the last release, I think it has a classic desktop I'm not sure this would be chosen at the login.
[04:23] <McFisher> Anyhow, how might I connect to irc.dothraki.org through port 6667?
[04:24] <Bonster> arnab: install fallback mode
[04:24] <urlin2u> !nounity | arnab
[04:24] <arnab> also i put terminal on the left bar, but clicking it more than once just puts the terminal window forward, instead of openning multiple terminal windows
[04:24] <ParadigmUltra> Most clients let you add a server and specify a port somewhere in the settings McFisher:
[04:25] <Bonster> arnab: middle click
[04:25] <arnab> ahh that works.
[04:25] <urlin2u> arnab, crtl-alt-t will bring up terminals
[04:25] <CarlFK> McFisher: /server irc.dothraki.org
[04:25] <McFisher> Paradigmultra Thank you! I was looking for a channel.
[04:25] <arnab> ahh didn't know that thanks urlin2u
[04:26] <arnab> frankly this new interface seems like some sort of experimental program
[04:26] <urlin2u> arnab, I didn't realize the center button either thanks Bonster
[04:26] <arnab> i will try to get back to gnome 3 then by the options that you pointed out
[04:26] <urlin2u> arnab, to new users yes, it is different.
[04:27] <pc3> hola
[04:27] <arnab> urlin2u, do you like it more once you get used to it?
[04:27] <nucc1> if i want all messages to root@localhost to be forwarded to my work email address, how would i do it?
[04:27] <urlin2u> arnab, I am used to iy=t but I have docky and the cube running.
[04:27] <arnab> for me if it is different, it comes with a time to learn - which is only justifiable if there is added benefits in the end
[04:27] <ParadigmUltra> probably /server irc.dothraki.org:6667
[04:28] <urlin2u> arnab, and synapse to bring up apps with a search gui.
[04:28] <ParadigmUltra> MrFisher, /join #[channel]
[04:28] <arnab> also the window menus seem to be detached from the windows - they take up the space of the application menu instead!
[04:28] <Guest9061> urlin2u, so your running what Gnome Classic on 11.10?
[04:28] <aafksab> im trying to use qpst with an xp vm can any one help me with setting up the com port?
[04:28] <arnab> very counterintuitive - was it done just for the sake of being different!
[04:29] <urlin2u> Guest9061, no unity and gnome 3
[04:29] <Guest9061> urlin2u, which one are you on now?
[04:29] <Bonster> install gnome-session-fallback if u want the classic
[04:29] <urlin2u> Guest9061, the cube does not run in gnome 3 and docky is not there just a stock gnome 3
[04:30] <urlin2u> Guest9061, unity, I use it the most.
[04:30] <urlin2u> Guest9061, I'm actually in natty I have oneiric upgarded to precise.
[04:31] <arnab> is kde an option for me to get back to familiar menu system? if so how can i install it?
[04:31] <aafksab> does anyone have experience with oracle  virtual box?
[04:31] <arnab> or should i go gnome 3?
[04:31] <Bonster> arnab: install kubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <urlin2u> arnab, I believe it is no problem
[04:31] <xangua> arnab: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:31] <aeon-ltd> aafksab: some experience, but ask the channel
[04:31] <urlin2u> aafksab, a little
[04:31] <xangua> arnab: we can not tell you what is better for you, we are not your parents ;)
[04:32] <urlin2u> xangua, lol
[04:32] <Coloman> Hello, I'm cant run any video for youbube in my ubuntu 11 on amd64.
[04:32] <aeon-ltd> Coloman: installed flash?
[04:32] <aafksab> im trying to set up a xp virtual machine to use qpst but i cant figure out how to point the com port to the usb
[04:32] <arnab> xangua, i would go with your educated guess, given that i liked the ubuntu 10 pretty much and i can use a Windows computer well
[04:33] <aeon-ltd> aafksab: wait thinking about it now they'll know more in #vbox
[04:33] <arnab> i will install kubuntu-desktop. thanks Bonster, urlin2u, xangua. what a mess this new system is.
[04:34] <Bonster> another satisfy unity user then
[04:35] <urlin2u> aafksab, are you in the vbox user like this screenshot. http://imagebin.org/183742
[04:35] <Coloman> aoen-ltd: Yes, I'm dowmloaded for Adobe site, but the screen it's black in firefox and in  chrome need upgrade
[04:35] <aafksab> thank you
[04:36] <urlin2u> aafksab, tyen the usb should show in the setings usb click the green plus sign to get it in.
[04:36] <urlin2u> aafksab, the settings in the vbox of the machine built.
[04:36] <CrOnOs2000> i cant find my integrated graphic card, i normaly use a pci express but i want the motherboard video card for a second monitor, lshw dont even show the motherboard card. any ideas?
[04:37] <urlin2u> CrOnOs2000, you try lspci | grep VGA
[04:38] <arnab> hi - i tried to install "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell", but it fails at the last 37.4kb
[04:38] <CrOnOs2000> urlin2u, only shows the pci express
[04:38] <arnab> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates/main gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 i386 0.9.1.90-0ubuntu4
[04:38] <arnab>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
[04:39] <urlin2u> CrOnOs2000, hmm that is about the most I know.
[04:39] <arnab> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0_0.9.1.90-0ubuntu4_i386.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
[04:39] <Bonster> arnab: change servers
[04:39] <dcherniv> CrOnOs2000, you cant do that. run both at the same time
[04:40] <mk> how do I reinstall my grub? I'm booted in from a ubuntu install cd, but I'm getting various file not found messages when I follow online instructions
[04:40] <arnab> hmpf.
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> !fixgrub | mk
[04:41] <urlin2u> arnab, not sure of the context here.
[04:41] <CrOnOs2000> urlin2u,  np, but i remember old versions of ubuntu show me the 2 video cards only 1 was used but it use to show both
[04:41] <tomreyn> arnab: this may be an easier first step: sudo apt-get clean
[04:41] <arnab> nothing, i just wish i hadn't "upgraded" to 11.10
[04:41] <arnab> ok thanks will try that tomreyn
[04:42] <mk> thanks aeon-ltd, I'll have a look at those
[04:42] <tomreyn> arnab: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[04:42] <arnab> ok
[04:43] <ImTheDude> im not to happy with 11.10 how do you get it to fite with guest addition installed it seems to still not fit?
[04:43] <tomreyn> arnab: it may fail again in the end in which case you indeed need to change the APT sources
[04:43] <arnab> ok
[04:43] <tomreyn> or it might fix it
[04:43] <Bonster> arnab: get a new mirror, ubuntu servers usually craps out
[04:44] <urlin2u> arnab, might jusneed the repo changed in software sources.
[04:44] <CrOnOs2000> dcherniv, there are some pages talinkg about 2 video cards on ubuntu, is the integrated and the pci what you meant i cant use for dual monitor?
[04:44] <urlin2u> arnab, meaning a new mirror as suggested.
[04:45] <Bonster> CrOnOs2000: one video card per pc usually, unless u got a dual
[04:45] <urlin2u> ImTheDude, you have 11.10 in a virtual box correct?
[04:46] <MrTopless> Hi, I will be making server for Magento is Ubuntu good choise?
[04:46] <dcherniv> CrOnOs2000, yea as far as i know. SLI or dual pcix cards are usable.
[04:47] <dcherniv> CrOnOs2000, some laptops allow you to hot switch between two videocards on windows (integrated and non-integrated) linux cant do that as far as i know
[04:47] <aeon-ltd> MrTopless: this magento? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magento
[04:48] <tomreyn> dcherniv: actually that's often possible by now.
[04:48] <tomreyn> but hardly straight forward
[04:48] <CrOnOs2000> dcherniv, a shame i guess i just have to buy a new  video card, tnx for the answer
[04:49] <dcherniv> tomreyn, cool, didnt know they could do that
[04:49] <dcherniv> anybody knows if theres some video acceleration for intel video cards, like vdpau?
[04:50] <tomreyn> dri + mesa
[04:50] <tomreyn> it's all open source, supported by intel
[04:50] <dcherniv> ah ok.
[04:50] <CrOnOs2000> intel does have drivers on the web
[04:50] <arnab> ahh i finally have the application menu back, gnome-shell worked :) and i don't have that #@#! unity bar anymore, and my window menus are attached to the windows.
[04:50] <CrOnOs2000> only gma something is a pain coz not realy intel
[04:51] <arnab> i wouldn't mind to completely uninstall that hedious  #@!$ ugly "unity bar" completely from my system!
[04:52] <aafksab> thank you that worked!
[04:52] <CrOnOs2000> arnab, give it a try i hated at first too, now i just think is not stable
[04:53] <Bonster> arnab: try xfce or lxde then
[04:53] <urlin2u> aafksab, cool the screenshot of the users kinda gets things moving easier to understand if you can see it.
[04:53] <aafksab> for sure thank you very much
[04:53] <arnab> thank you but i don't want to give it a try again - just experienced it
[04:54] <arnab> gnome-shell seems to be working perfectly fine :)
[04:54] <urlin2u> arnab, you sound a bit bitter now. :D
[04:54] <urlin2u> with unity arnab
[04:55] <stan_man_can> How do i create a usr that only has access to a single folder? Right now i'm the only one with access to tmy server but i need to give someone SFTP access to their old web dev folder
[04:55] <arnab> yes - i admit that :) but i am happy that i got my system back to a state i can handle and love
[04:55] <edwardthefma> help
[04:55] <arnab> thanks guys for the help!
[04:55] <aeon-ltd> edwardthefma: ask away
[04:55] <edwardthefma> who hear has a working copy of apache2
[04:55] <Bonster> none
[04:55] <urlin2u> arnab, glad you got there I always have multiple OS's just for this sort of a occasions.
[04:56] <urlin2u> these*
[04:56] <_Neytiri_> how do i restart hte bind9 nameserver in ubuntu11.4
[04:56] <edwardthefma> i messed up a config file
[04:56] <edwardthefma> and i need a replace ment
[04:56] <Bonster> try google
[04:56] <edwardthefma> tryed that
[04:56] <edwardthefma> 0 results
[04:57] <arnab> actually for a moment i thought i was stuck- that there was no way to change it back to the wonderful system that it was - and i panicked :)
[04:57] <edwardthefma> that helped
[04:57] <urlin2u> arnab, natural response for anyone really.
[04:57] <edwardthefma> if some 1 could past bin the contents
[04:58] <_Neytiri_> how do i restart bind9  i am getting this error when i tried this comamnd service bind9 restart      bind9: unrecognized service
[04:58] <edwardthefma> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[04:58] <edwardthefma> it would be very helpfull
[04:58] <thorn__> Hey guys, can anyone suggest an easy way to merge folders containing pictures that may be duplicates but that may not have the same names? I was hoping to sort by size, but I think the size is only being as specific as that listed, ie 1.2 MB as opposed to sorting by bytes. This means that identical files won't be next to each other. Any suggestions?
[04:59] <Bonster> edwardthefma: this it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=662889
[04:59] <edwardthefma> thx <Bonster>
[05:01] <thorn__> so when you delete a file on ubuntu one, is it deleted across all the computers?
[05:01] <shane_> @thorn try using the find command with the exec flag, something like find /path/to/files -type f -name "*duplicates*" -exec mv {} /path/to/dupefolder/ \;  you may have to play with the syntax a bit
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> thorn__: What does your second sentence mean?  Can you rephrase it?
[05:02] <tash> looking for some help setting up samba on my ubuntu server to share a directory. I followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html but I get prompted for a password when I browse to \\server\share
[05:03] <thorn__> I have ubuntu one on several computers. I would like to delete a file in my ubuntu one folder that has been shared across all the computers. How do I do that?
[05:03] <paijem> tash: what your security option on your smb.conf ?
[05:03] <_Neytiri_> how do i restart bind9  i am getting this error when i tried this comamnd service bind9 restart      bind9: unrecognized service
[05:04] <paijem> _Neytiri_ maybe bind
[05:04] <_Neytiri_> tried it
[05:04] <Bonster> whats bind9
[05:04] <Bonster> do
[05:04] <_Neytiri_> its a DNS server
[05:04] <shane_> @Neytiri try sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[05:04] <tash> paijem: sec, checking
[05:05] <_Neytiri_> tried it
[05:05] <shane_> what was the output?
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> thorn__: You can easily sort by the size in bytes - `ls` shows bytes by default, and only converts to "1.2M" with the -h flag.  Additionallly, you can use pre-built utilities like the fdupes package to find duplicates based on file hashes.
[05:05] <tash> paijem:  security = user
[05:05] <paijem> thorn__: you have access privilege to do that
[05:05] <paijem> tash: have you set password samba for your user access ?
[05:06] <tash> no, I followed that tutorial straight through, unless I'm missing something
[05:06] <stan_man_can> how do you create a user that only has access to a certain directory?
[05:06] <_Neytiri_> shane_, its not there
[05:06] <_Neytiri_>  i tried removing and reinstalling bind and it sstill not there
[05:06] <shane_> did you install it with aptitude?
[05:06] <_Neytiri_> yes
[05:06] <tash> paijem: from what I understand, gues ok = yes is supposed to prevent password prompt ( guest ok: allows clients to connect to the share without supplying a password. ).
[05:07] <shane_> in /etc/init.d is there a service called "named" or just "bind" ?
[05:07] <Bonster> _Neytiri_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto#Restart_the_syslog_server_and_BIND9
[05:07] <thorn__> fdupes
[05:07] <paijem> tash: i think you need security = share on your smb.conf for that..
[05:08] <thorn__> thanks
[05:08] <_Neytiri_> Bonster, something is up as bind9 isnt in /etc/init.d/ and service cant find it
[05:08] <shane_> try (as root) updatedb ; locate bind|grep rc.d
[05:08] <thorn__> access privileges?
[05:08] <_Neytiri_> its installed
[05:08] <Bonster> _Neytiri_: try locate bind9
[05:08] <tash> paijem: worth a try, sec
[05:08] <_Neytiri_> thats what i am trying now
[05:09] <paijem> tash: don't forget to restart samba service
[05:09] <tash> yep :)
[05:09] <tash> done
[05:09] <tash> now testing
[05:09] <paijem> thorn__: yeah, for delete or remove you have enough access to do that
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> _Neytiri_: Any chance you logged into the wrong server?
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> (And it will be bind9 on Ubuntu, not bind or named)
[05:10] <_Neytiri_> nope
[05:10] <paijem> tash: success ?
[05:11] <tash> paijem: perfect :)
[05:11] <tash> ty
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> _Neytiri_: if /etc/init.d/bind9 doesn't exist, then it's not properly installed.  That's pretty much all there is to that.
[05:11] <MrTopless> Is Unbutu server good for Magento? How will it run faster through Vmware Workstation or directly from HDD?
[05:11] <_Neytiri_> tonyyarusso, it is
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: What's Magento?
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> _Neytiri_: what is?  Define is?
[05:12] <MrTopless> ecommerce open source platform
[05:12] <paijem> tash: good working man ?
[05:12] <TRAVISg> audiophile 2496 aoundcard no sound in ubuntu 11.10
[05:12] <MrTopless> http://www.magentocommerce.com
[05:12] <TRAVISg> *soundcard
[05:13] <paijem> MrTopless: i think it would be more faster run directly from dedicated partition on hd
[05:13] <HackNewton> hello
[05:13] <MrTopless> So Vmware is made for simulation?
[05:13] <shane_> _Neytiri try searching for the binary with find /etc -type f -perm 755 -name "*bind*"  and see if it locates it
[05:14] <HackNewton> MrTopless, yes VMwares are simulators
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: LOL - I like how NONE of the features are checked under the Community Edition on their comparison chart.  Way to fail.
[05:14] <TRAVISg> Hello all audiophile 2496 soundcard no sound in 11.10
[05:14] <shane_> otherwise apt-get install bind9
[05:14] <_Neytiri_> shane /etc/network/if-up.d/bind9   /etc/network/if-down.d/bind9   /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/bind9 /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/bind9
[05:15] <bullgard6> !sound
[05:15] <HackNewton> my totem movie player is giving error when i try to resume videos after some time
[05:15] <HackNewton> anyone have solution
[05:15] <HackNewton> ?
[05:15] <MrTopless> well magento is one of the best and popular ecommerce platform, they have they name.
[05:16] <ImTheDude> i lost irc on a web page that i visit
[05:16] <MrTopless> There are lots of jobs nowdays based on Magento
[05:16] <ImTheDude> dont know what i did to do that
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: http://www.magentocommerce.com/system-requirements
[05:16] <shane_> what version of ubuntu are you runing?
[05:16] <HackNewton> 11.10
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: Never heard of it before today.
[05:16] <bkerensa> If someone can help TRAVISg: He has a Audiophile 2496 Sound Card and audio is not working... He is running Ubuntu 11.10
[05:17] <HackNewton> i never had problem in previous versions
[05:17] <MrTopless> Which one would be faster Apache or Linux?
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> ...
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: Apache is a web server.  Linux is a kernel.
[05:17] <HackNewton> MrTopless, Apache runs on Linux lol
[05:18] <MrTopless> but it can be configured to server
[05:18] <MrTopless> oh
[05:18] <_Neytiri_> shane_, 11.4
[05:18] <MrTopless> :-D
[05:18] <ImTheDude> i cant get movies to play i even set up 128 ram in graphics in vbox and added 4 cores to see if that would speed up
[05:18] <mxed> linux is faster becaus it runs apache
[05:18] <MrTopless> But if I run Apache on Windows 7 x64 and from Linux, on which the server will run faster?
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: What you just asked was equivalent to "Which one would be faster, Firefox or Windows" :P
[05:19] <HackNewton> tonyyarusso, nice point lol
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: You will probably get more bang for your resource buck on a Linux server, particularly since you won't be running a GUI.
[05:19] <shane_> _Neytiri what output do you get with   dpkg --get-selections | grep bind9
[05:19] <HackNewton> does anyone have solution over my Totem problem ?
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: In other words, Apache on Linux should run faster than Apache on Windows.
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: Also, Windows 7 is a desktop operating system, not intended to be used as a server.
[05:20] <MrTopless> So command based systems are much faster, because they don't use GPU?
[05:20] <Shirakawasuna> having some troubles - can't use mpc/mpd for some reason, both on laptop and desktop
[05:20] <_Neytiri_> shane_, bind9 install     bind9-doc install     bind9-host install     bind9utils install     libbind9-60 install
[05:20] <MrTopless> And GPU can be utilised to process numeral data?
[05:21] <HackNewton> MrTopless, no
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> MrTopless: No, because they don't have as much nonsense running, on the GPU *or* CPU *or* using RAM and disk.  Fewer programs, because the graphical shell is a bunch of programs, and pretty resource-intensive ones at that.
[05:21] <Shirakawasuna> on laptop, I get "ERROR: problems opening audio device"
[05:21] <Shirakawasuna> on desktop, I get "error: you don't have permission for "status""
[05:21] <paijem> _Neytiri_ : package BIND server on ubuntu was named with bind9
[05:21] <TRAVISg> I have an audiophile 2496 that is seen but I get no sound have checked all settings that I can any help?
[05:22] <HackNewton> Shirakawasuna, for laptop did you tried to install codecs ?
[05:22] <HackNewton> or reinstall it ?
[05:22] <shane_> _Neytiri try this:  /usr/sbin/named -u bind
[05:22] <MrTopless> But Graphics practically overload GPU and ram. But if I have 16GB of RAM?
[05:22] <SIFTU> ImTheDude: did you install the vbox additions on the VM?
[05:22] <_Neytiri_> returned nothing
[05:23] <shane_> now if you do:   ps aux | grep named  do you see the process running?
[05:23] <_Neytiri_> root     10490  0.0  0.5 124392 19576 ?        Ssl  20:49   0:00 /usr/sbin/named bind     10883  0.0  0.4 129352 16228 ?        Ssl  21:27   0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u bind root     10890  0.0  0.0   9132  1040 pts/0    S+   21:28   0:00 grep --color=auto named
[05:23] <marsfligth> Hi, what commands can I use to purge the trash based on trash content age?
[05:24] <shane_> yep it's alive.. see if it's serving DNS now on port 53, should be up
[05:24] <HackNewton> ah come on guys, did no one have solution over my problem ?
[05:24] <MrTopless> Okay another question, Linux partition map is somehow different then windows it goes deeper, below disk level.
[05:24] <_Neytiri_> i need to be able to restart it without having to go through all this
[05:24] <MrTopless> And you still can store files there
[05:24] <MrTopless> Is that correct?
[05:25] <HackNewton> MrTopless, Linux filesystem is mainly designed for sake of security
[05:25] <shane_> yeah you can find the original shell script for /etc/init.d/bind9 at http://www.bodhost.com/web-hosting/script-for-etcinitdnamed/
[05:25] <shane_> somehow yours got deleted, i have no idea how or why
[05:25] <_Neytiri_> thanks
[05:25] <MrTopless> Does it conflict with windows file system?
[05:25] <HackNewton> Windows somehow managed to designed to sake of convience for users
[05:26] <paijem> _Neytiri_: try reinstall them with #aptitude reinstall bind9
[05:26] <MrTopless> for example if I install both on same parition, windows and linux
[05:26] <HackNewton> at after certain point the filesystem to kernel looks similar
[05:26] <MrTopless> then I won't be able to remove linux without breaking windows
[05:26] <Shirakawasuna> HackNewton: not sure what you mean. Both computers have flac,
[05:26] <shane_> yeah reinstalling it is probably still the best way to go.. good luck
[05:27] <HackNewton> Shirakawasuna, make sure you have root permission to access your files in case of your Desktop
[05:27] <_Neytiri_> readding that script fixed it
[05:28] <shane_> nice
[05:28] <thorn__> tonyyarusso: thanks for that utility, it worked incredibly well first time.
[05:29] <thorn__> I have ubuntu one on several computers. I would like to delete a file in my ubuntu one folder that has been shared across all the computers. How do I do that?
[05:30] <MrTopless> Is it possible to play Windows game on Ubuntu?
[05:30] <MrTopless> games*
[05:30] <_Neytiri_> shane_, thanks for the help
[05:30] <MrTopless> for example Skyrim :-D
[05:30] <HackNewton> MrTopless, yes
[05:30] <xangua> !appdb | MrTopless
[05:30] <shane_> you're welcome, glad it worked
[05:30] <MrTopless> with same performance as on windows?
[05:30] <HackNewton> MrTopless, use wine
[05:31] <HackNewton> MrTopless, well with emuators you have little low performace than original one
[05:31] <paijem> thorn__: are you have root (sudoers) access to ubuntu system ?
[05:32] <HackNewton> but you have good hardware you even dont notice it
[05:32] <MrTopless> How emulator works?
[05:32] <HackNewton> well this is little bit out of room topic
[05:32] <MrTopless> it is like converter yes?
[05:32] <HackNewton> MrTopless, you can google it
[05:33] <MrTopless> ok
[05:33] <MrTopless> :-D
[05:33] <RudyValencia> Y'know what one of my favorite traditions is?
[05:33] <paijem> MrTopless: i thinks, emulator works "gateway" between your linux and windows game ..
[05:33] <RudyValencia> Enabling sudo to print insults when a user fails to enter their password properly
[05:33] <paijem> MrTopless: i mean like "gateway"
[05:34] <mxed> HackNewton, wine is not an emulator and  sometimes it handle games a bit faster than  wiindows, i do self play world of warcraft on one computer and linux and wow runs it better than  wiin, not sure why
[05:34] <mxed> most of time wiine is crap
[05:34] <urlin2u> RudyValencia, sounds like a developmental cog missing in your personality.
[05:34] <RudyValencia> hehe
[05:35] <RudyValencia> ...but only on my boxes do I do that
[05:35] <HackNewton> mxed, well you seem to run game fast because there is not any antivirus monitoring over your game's sholder
[05:35] <urlin2u> :D
[05:35] <paijem> i think may be more wise play windows game on windows. that was like you in your home :D
[05:36] <mxed> HackNewton, no it is because of that, i dont use av on any machines and xp is plain fresh instaled with latest drivers etc'
[05:36] <Shirakawasuna> HackNewton: it appears to be something w/ my audio device config
[05:37] <Shirakawasuna> HackNewton: if I revert to alsa rather than pulse, it works
[05:39] <mxed> HackNewton, i tought i saw an explanaiton that told wine can use less cpu cyckles than windows use for same program, it is theoretical and lot of things matter how well a program runs
[05:39] <mxed> but for sure is my wow running better in linux
[05:45]  * phlak_user is back
[05:45] <mxed> Wine means Wine Is Not an Emulator
[05:45] <mxed> Wine means Wine Is Not an Emulator
[05:45] <mxed> sory for double post
[05:45] <optimusM> can someone help me
[05:45] <MrTopless> mxed wow doesn't require lots of resourses if runs like 50 fps, you wont see a different if it is 60 or 90
[05:46] <phlak_user> optimusM, go ahead and state your problem and wait
[05:47] <optimusM> can i copy the code error im getting please
[05:47] <phlak_user> optimusM, pastebin it
[05:47] <thorn__> paijem: yes, I have sudo access, does that mean they will be deleted across all computers?
[05:47] <phlak_user> !pastebinit | optimusM
[05:47] <mxed> MrTopless, still it does not emulate and it could run even win apps faster but in the real world other things that how programs are compile et matter, drivers etc
[05:48] <HackNewton> mxed, for me wine still is not good for use it craps many times
[05:48] <optimusM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/735943/
[05:49] <optimusM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/735944/ i mean this code sorry
[05:49] <mxed> no i dont use wine either, but for my world of warcraft with a n old machine as p4 and  2gb  ram and 128mv nvidia it worx wery wel for me, and i reboot to linux when play that game
[05:49] <phlak_user> optimusM, is a package manager or update manager working?
[05:50] <optimusM> yea i just downloaded something
[05:50] <thorn__> I have ubuntu one on several computers. I would like to delete a file in my ubuntu one folder that has been shared across all the computers. How do I do that?
[05:51] <phlak_user> optimusM, only one can be working at any given time; wait for that to finish and then run the apt-get command
[05:52] <phlak_user> thorn__, you can delete it from any one computer and that change should get propagated to all the others
[05:52] <urlin2u> thorn__, never used ubuntu one, but how do you have it configured what s there?
[05:52] <urlin2u> is*
[05:53] <thorn__> so if I'm worried about sabotage from a single computer, I need to backup any particular files in a separate, non-ubuntu one directory, yes?
[05:53] <phlak_user> thorn__, or you can delete it using the files dashboard
[05:54] <HackNewton> anyone knows good text reader for Ubuntu
[05:54] <dr_willis> HackNewton:  more or less are commonly used for reading ascii text files
[05:54] <phlak_user> thorn__, you can set the behavior in the files dashboard
[05:55] <phlak_user> HackNewton, did you mean text-to-speech reader?
[05:55] <thorn__> where's the dashboard?
[05:55] <HackNewton> yes
[05:55] <HackNewton> sorry for confusion
[05:56] <HackNewton> I want a good text-to-speech reader
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> HackNewton: orca?
[05:56] <phlak_user> !info orca
[05:56] <dr_willis> or festival
[05:56] <dr_willis> depending on the details :)
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> !info gnome-orca
[05:57] <phlak_user> tonyyarusso, ah tx
[05:57] <Bartzy> Is it possible to get the files that a package is going to install before installing it ? with aptitude ?
[05:58] <HackNewton> ok i will try it
[05:58] <HackNewton> thanks
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> Bartzy: apt-file should let you look that up
[05:59] <Bartzy> thanks
[05:59] <spuunclk> any reccomendations on how to get a laptop buit-in webcam working on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[06:00] <dr_willis> spuunclk:   its been my experience - eithber they work fine out of the box.. or they are totally unsupported by linux.
[06:00] <dr_willis> spuunclk:  install cheese and see if it works in that? or in vlc yet?
[06:00] <thorn__> where's the dashboard?
[06:00] <spuunclk> dr_willis where would I start it from within linux?
[06:01] <spuunclk> where would the device be listed?
[06:01] <xangua> thorn__: press the ubuntu icon
[06:01] <dr_willis> spuunclk:  install cheese, run cheese
[06:01] <spuunclk> ahhh, ok.... thanks
[06:01] <dr_willis> or in vlc. theres a file -> video capture device
[06:01] <phlak_user> thorn__, or the Win (super) key
[06:01] <dr_willis> actually in 11.10 there was a webcam config button under the power-control button at the very top right also.
[06:01] <dr_willis> I noticed that yesterday
[06:01] <thorn__> what I mean is where is the Ubuntu One dashboard.
[06:02] <spuunclk> my hopes aren't too high but I'm gonna give it a go
[06:02] <dr_willis> That Power-control->webcams button here wantedt to install cheese. :) but i  also plauyed with the webcam in vlc yesterday
[06:03] <jiltdil> Is firefox 8 available for 64 bit ?? Not want to use ppa
[06:03] <dr_willis> You mean is it in the default repos yet?
[06:03] <jiltdil> yes
[06:03] <dr_willis> !ff8
[06:04] <thorn__> what I mean is where is the Ubuntu One dashboard?
[06:04] <dr_willis> havent even tried ff8 yet.. been using chrome and opera lately. :)
[06:04] <dr_willis> thorn__:  there was an icon on the left side panel for ubuntu one, that launched some sort of control-panel  i thought.
[06:04] <jiltdil> My cheese is not working properly it is showing odd colors
[06:05] <IdleWarship> I'd like to remap the keys on my numpad to 's', 'j' and some others.  What's the best trick to this in Ubunut?
[06:06] <optimusM> how do i do apt kill?
[06:06] <paijem> optimusM: are you mean kill apt process ?
[06:06] <dr_willis> optimusM:  clairfy what you mean
[06:07] <optimusM> kill apt process
[06:07] <dr_willis> !fixapt
[06:07] <optimusM> cause i logged off and back on and still got the same error
[06:08] <tito_> anyone mind helping me with bootloader problems?
[06:09] <elkng> it takes 3 minutes to open sone pdf file, I tryed to convert it using "pdf2ps" then again "ps2pdf", now it opened fast but now all letters seemed crooked, is there any other method to fix or reconvert pdf file rather then pdf->ps->pdf ?
[06:10] <optimusM> im trying to install java 5-jdk
[06:10] <thorn__> I found it, it's a web-based service that requires logging in.
[06:10] <jiltdil>  cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86   I am geeting this always don't know how to reolve this?? Help me to fix this
[06:10] <paijem> tito_: what exactly your bootloader problem ?
[06:10] <tito_> I had ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop and installed fedora 16 today. fedora does not show up in grub :(
[06:11] <paijem> tito_: run update-grub on your terminal
[06:11] <jiltdil> tito_ at teminal run this update-grub
[06:11] <tito_> it does not even show there is a fedora os installed
[06:12] <jiltdil> tito_ Ithen u didn't install bootloader for fedora
[06:12] <paijem> tito_: is os-prober command detect your fedora ?
[06:12] <fengshaun> hi all, I just installed ubuntu and I can't seem to enable wireless
[06:12] <tito_> how do I run os-prober? I dont know
[06:12] <fengshaun> I right click on network manager applet (ubuntu 10.04) and the "enable wireless" option is grayed out.
[06:13] <TBotNik> Hey All: Anyone know any good WordPress plugin gurus or an active WordPress channel.  Official channel at #wordpress is dead, no one ever responds, ever! and I mean ever!!!
[06:13] <dr_willis> tito_:  boot to ubuntu, rerun 'sudo update-grub' it should run os-prober and see the other  os's
[06:13] <paijem> tito_: like dr_willis says ..
[06:13] <Yagwit>  Does my hard drive have to be ntfs?
[06:13] <dr_willis> tito_:  then if everything works right. it will add  redhat to the grub menus
[06:14] <dr_willis> Yagwit:  what?
[06:14] <tito_> update grub detected fedora this time :D
[06:14] <tito_> thanx a ton guys! You guys are wesome! :D
[06:15] <paijem> that was greats
[06:15] <Yagwit> dr_willis: I need to go back to windows after a total install of ubuntu deleting all windows completely. Does my HD need to be NTFS?
[06:15] <jiltdil>  cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86   I am geeting this always don't know how to reolve this?? Help me to fix this
[06:16] <TBotNik> jiltdil: You talking X-Win?
[06:16] <dr_willis> Yagwit:  windows normallys installs to ntfs.. correct.. ask in #windows for windows help.
[06:16] <jiltdil> TBotNik, ??? NO its on virtual termina;
[06:16] <dr_willis> Yagwit:  or just delete all partitons on the hd. and let the windows installer repartion as needed
[06:17] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Which VT package you using?
[06:17] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2] I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting item 4. After '~$ sudo aplay -l' I obtain: "abc is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." What does that mean? Who is reporting here what to whom for what reason?
[06:18] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  Vt pakages???
[06:18] <dr_willis> bullgarrd4 that user does not have sudo rights.
[06:19] <TBotNik> jiltdil: You said "in Virtual terminal"
[06:19] <mrdeb> is 3.1 going to be in ubuntu now
[06:19] <mrdeb> ?
[06:19] <bubah> bullgard4: you need root (or user that have sudo capability) to issue command
[06:20] <bullgard4> dr_willis: If your stement is the reason for this output message, why does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting recommend me this procedure?
[06:20] <bullgard4> s/stement/statement/
[06:20] <dr_willis> normally your first made user has full sudo rights.. if you are using a differnt user.. then thats the reason.
[06:21] <dr_willis> any user using sudo, has to have sudo rights
[06:21] <TBotNik> jiltdil: I'm assuming you are running a VT other than native ssh.  Am I right?
[06:22] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  No, i mean to saay that when i go to alt+ctrl+f1 is show these type of message, perhabs u misunderstood my question
[06:22] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Please tell me why "This incident will be reported"? Who will report this incident to whom?
[06:22] <dr_willis> its being logged to your root user bull.
[06:23] <Bonster> the cookie monster
[06:23] <Yagwit> dr_willis: I'm middle of the road between linux and windows lol so help is hard to come by....but I get grub rescue with all cds except Ubuntu Live CD
[06:23] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Guess so, you are actually talking terminal session, not virtual terminal, and you are getting errors.  From which package?
[06:24] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  i think it is because of Cheese
[06:24] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Cheese?????
[06:24] <dr_willis> so in some log file somewhere.. theres a line.. user foo tried to use sudo....
[06:24] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  yes the webcam
[06:24] <phlak_user> !info cheese | TBotNik
[06:25] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  There are many bugs reported to it
[06:25] <dr_willis> Yagwit:  no comparison.. windows is just to flakey for me to use for more then just games.
[06:25] <Yagwit> dr_willis: yeah it's not for me
[06:25] <dr_willis> Yagwit:  i have spent some time learning how all these bootloaders work however. :) booting an os is an amazsing complex process
[06:25]  * jiltdil never used window in last 2 years
[06:25] <dr_willis> grub2 is pratically its own mini OS.
[06:26] <dr_willis> lilo, grub, syslinux, grub2   :)
[06:26] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Is there an alternate package to cheese?  I run Ubuntu and my WebCam went in seamlessly.  Let's see what is the package for that?
[06:27] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  Which application u use for your wecam??
[06:27] <dr_willis> from what ive seen of webcams in linux. either they work fine.. or are totally unsupported.. but often support gets added in a  newer kernel, or ubuntu release
[06:27] <dr_willis> you can test a webcam with vlc also instead of cheese.
[06:27] <optimusM> how can i install java5-jdk on 10.04
[06:27] <sasori> what's the difference between "ls -la" & "ls -l" ?
[06:27] <dr_willis> actually during the Install of ubuntu here. the webcam came on and took my picture. ;) for the 'lock screen' which was amuseing...
[06:27] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  cheese was working fine on my 11.04... I use mplayer via termianl for use of my webcam
[06:28] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  so you upgraded and webcam broke.
[06:28] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  or is this a clean install?
[06:28] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  clean install
[06:28] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  i generally use  mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=1280:height=720:device=/dev/video0  for using my webcam
[06:28] <dr_willis> could be some kernel bug/issue.. you dident notice if the installer used it did you?
[06:28] <dr_willis> on the live cd.
[06:29] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  no i didn't noticed it but now the kernel giving me message all th time  cannot set freq 48000 to ep 0x86
[06:30] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Well just checked my system and not using my WebCam stand-alone, so went in with Skype.  I would try the packages that dr-willis suggested.
[06:30] <thorn__> I had an "intern" offer to install Windows Enterprise, unlicensed, at my non-profit community center. The director's eyes lit up. How do I convince him it's a bad idea?
[06:30] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  It is working fine with lower resolution but with higher it is just too bad
[06:31] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  video chat is working fine no issue ...Online issue is with cheese
[06:31] <TBotNik> sasori: The -a means "all" the -l means list or verbose as in detailed, so -al is a detailed list of all.
[06:31] <sasori> ok thanks
[06:31] <phlak_user> thorn__, point him towards this page -> http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/
[06:32] <thorn__> phlak_user: thanks
[06:32] <optimusM> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/735961/
[06:32] <thorn__> anyone else have some good points I could make from the Ubuntu perspective?
[06:32] <dr_willis> thorn__:  tell him that drug dealers always give away the first hit for free... to get you addicted.. :)
[06:32] <optimusM> can someone look at this and tell me what im doing wrong?
[06:32] <TBotNik> jiltdil: So no issues till you go online and then cheese craps on you?
[06:33] <bullgard4> dr_willis: I found a notice in /var/log/auth.log of the adminitrator user: "<timeanddate> <nodename> <username> : user NOT in sudoers; ...; COMMAND=/usr/bin/aplay -l".
[06:33] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  yes video chat with skype yahoo gmail etc working fine  but it is just  issue with cheese, i reported bugs for this and many of them
[06:33] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Which chat package are you using?
[06:34] <jiltdil> TBotNik, I generally use gmail for video chat or skype
[06:34] <bullgard4> dr_willis, bubah: Thank you for commenting.
[06:34] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Does it work fine in Pidgin?
[06:34] <jiltdil> TBotNik,  Not used pigdin yet
[06:35] <TBotNik> dr_willis: Doesn't Pidgin use a fork of cheese?
[06:37] <phlak_user> jiltdil, what about ekiga
[06:37]  * jiltdil  using ubuntu i think the most stale and good were 10.* version
[06:37] <TBotNik> jiltdil: Wasn't sure, so popped that Q to dr_willis, but Pidgin has lot's of good support so try it.  If they are forked off cheese then they probably got most of the bugs fixed.
[06:38] <jiltdil> phlak_user,  its not good
[06:38] <TBotNik> signing off now.  Ya'll have fun!
[06:40] <taoli> i think the .04 release is always a bit better
[06:40] <taoli> 11.10 is giving me alot of problems
[06:40] <dr_willis> i dont use any of the im/video chats.. so no idea
[06:41] <dr_willis> 11.10 worked a whole lot better for me then earlier releases taoli  :)
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Only had any issues in Jaunty. Karmic has been the best for me :-)
[06:42] <taoli> dr_willis: my ati graphic card was not working, comp wasn't shutting down had force acpi
[06:42] <phlak_user> i seem to have "download interrupted" problems with google-chrome 12 ; tried chrome 16 beta but still persists.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: tried the daily build ppa?
[06:43] <dr_willis> ive had issues with my one ati system (and nvidia sistems) with earlier releases. all working good now in 11.10 . So it just depends
[06:43] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip, that will be the Canary wont it?
[06:43] <optimusM> how do i get java5-jdk on lucid?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: not heard it called that
[06:44] <taoli> yeah but it did come a long way since 6* i remember when nothing worked, no wifi no printer no graphic boot lol
[06:44] <dr_willis> and the major issue these days... is still flash....
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> taoli: you care about graphic boot?
[06:45] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip, seems its a nightly build -> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=029e929ea2f211a9&hl=en
[06:46] <taoli> ActionParsnip, oh i mean not graphic boot, but rather X session not runnning on a new install
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> taoli: not had that issue with nvidia 6150 or mid range intel gpus. Worked flawlessly
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: compiled by a bot once a day :-). Its all I use
[06:50] <taoli> ActionParsnip: i use ati, even thou i shouldn't lol
[06:50] <phlak_user> ActionParsnip, ah chromium ( i was talking about the official chrome); installing chromium now
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> phlak_user: chrome is just a snapshot of chromium with some extras added like tracking (afaik). Daily chromium has
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> Nice beta features
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> taoli: i buy where the support is. Nvidia even made Linux drivers in 2000
[06:54] <dr_willis> we will see what happens now when wayland gets going. :)
[06:55] <phoenix_firebrd> I want you to vote for kde https://verein.ing-diba.de/sonstiges/10115/kde-ev
[06:55] <taoli> ActionParsnip: yeah i know nvidia is supporting linux alot more, i'm a black friday bargain shopper LOL
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Could be fun. If its sleeker i'll switch to intel :-)
[06:56] <sunit> I am trying to setup subversion server, I have configured subversion and when I am givving command svn co http://192.168.1.65/svn svn --username saptak, I am getting error svn: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem
[06:57] <sunit> please see http://imagebin.org/183756
[07:07] <gogeta> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:07] <gogeta> lol
[07:07] <bullgard4> I have changed the contents of /etc/sudoers and saved the file. When will the changes become effective?
[07:08] <gogeta> bullgard4: as soon as the should be instand
[07:08] <gogeta> bullgard4: instant
[07:08] <vinnie48> good morning
[07:08] <bullgard4> gogeta: You are writing no proper English. Please say it on other words.
[07:09] <bullgard4> s/on/in/
[07:09] <vinnie48> may I ask, what is the so-called dummy upgrade package for browsers necessary for?
[07:12] <Private> Hi there I just installed ubuntu but my motherboard doesnt seem to be able to boot from the harddrive, any help?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Bullgard4: i believe the file is consulted each time sudo is used so it should be ready to rock.
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Private: what happens when you try to boot?
[07:13] <Cheap_Scotsman> Anyone free to give some advice on b-43 wireless driver issues?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[07:13] <Cheap_Scotsman> actionparsnip: Been there, repeatedly :)
[07:13] <Private> It says something like "please insert bootable media"
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Its a quick and easy first call ;-)
[07:14] <|Anthony|> 2GB RAM with 2GB swap seem reasonable for 11.10?
[07:14] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Thank you very much for your help. I have tested it, and it works as you said.
[07:15] <Cheap_Scotsman> Essentially my PCI wireless card doesn't even appear in my recognized networks in the wireless tab now
[07:15] <Cheap_Scotsman> But my motherboard wireless does, and my USB adapter which I am using to be online right now
[07:20] <aguilat> avernos
[07:30] <Yagwit> I can only boot ubuntu...do I need to download dos to boot windows? I am changing this OS for hub.
[07:34] <hansg01> some prob updatig the PPAs
[07:34] <hansg01> arnt updated instatntly
[07:35] <hansg01> even after running the update
[07:35] <hansg01> then too packages arent found
[07:35] <trijntje> Hi all, is there any software available on ubuntu to host a torrent tracker? I've searched google and the software center, but nothing came up
[07:36] <hansg01> then hv to restart and the packages are found and then again restart to install 'em as it returns an error failed internet connection
[07:37] <hansg01> ne way to fix dis?
[07:38] <Private> When I try to boot a message pops up saying please insert bootable media.. how does one fix that?
[07:38] <Cheap_Scotsman> Anyone have any solutions for wireless cards not being recognized in networks?
[07:38] <taoli> hi does the xubuntu alternative installer support FDE?
[07:39] <sunit> I I am getting error svn: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem when giving command svn co http://192.168.1.65/svn svn --username saptak
[07:39] <taoli> if not, can any body recommand a light weight distro?
[07:39] <taoli> i want to install it on a virtual box
[07:39] <sunit> Webaccess is also giving error as can be seen in http://imagebin.org/183756
[07:41] <sp4z> hi, does anybody know a good panel app that displays bandwidth text instead of bar graph?
[07:41] <chroot> hi, is there any  software that can used to control  servers remotely?
[07:42] <optimusM> how do i get java jdk 5 on lucid?
[07:42] <vinnie48> nobody knows it
[07:45] <chroot> is ubuntu have remote desktop
[07:45] <chroot> ?
[07:46] <optimusM> how do i press ok in terminal after trying to install the package of java jdk5?
[07:46] <chroot> press enter key
[07:47] <pune> :)
[07:47] <optimusM> i have
[07:47] <smw> optimusM, right arrow key, enter
[07:48] <optimusM> haha thank you i feel retarded now
[07:48] <smw> optimusM, glad I could help :-)
[07:48] <optimusM> thank you i feel happy now lol
[07:49] <optimusM> dam but i got an error lol
[07:50] <jita> Can i install ubuntu's terminal in lubuntu ?
[07:50] <optimusM> it would come up as sun java 5.0 console?
[07:50] <smw> jita, you can, but why would you?
[07:50] <optimusM> in system tools?
[07:50] <smw> jita, the lxde terminal emulator is pretty good imho
[07:50] <jita> smw: it takes minimal window space (no menus, no statusbar) and the fonts are pretty slick
[07:51] <smw> jita, well, the program ubuntu uses is called gnome-terminal. No idea how much junk will be installed with it
[07:51] <jita> smw: ubuntu 11.10's terminal ie
[07:52] <jita> smw: do you use lubuntu ?
[07:53] <smw> jita, tried it and didn't like it. I have ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu, and xubuntu on my system right now (I was experimenting).
[07:53] <smw> jita, I have settled on xubuntu :-)
[07:56] <jita> smw: yes i cant get accustomed to unity so looking for an alternative
[07:56] <smw> jita, I have been through that
[07:56] <smw> jita, I tried everything :-)
[07:56] <sasori> what does "s" mean, in -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 42856 2011-01-26 10:09 /usr/bin/passwd ?
[07:56] <Madpilot> jita, that sounds very familiar :)
[07:56] <jita> smw: lol maybe i will settle for debian with gnome 2
[07:56] <jita> Madpilot: everybody's looking for some alternative these days :P
[07:57] <sasori> am referring to the "s" of the user permission
[07:57] <WsAgent> Pls help me out ... I tried to make a adhoc connection to share my eth0 internet to my iphone but iphone is not getting an ip
[07:57] <smw> jita, that thought crossed my mind. But I needed to leave gnome. I did not want to employ a temporary fix by using old programs.
[07:58] <optimusM> how do i get rid of all broken packages or fix them?
[07:58] <jita> smw: there is yet another light weight distribution called crunchbang, dunno if they updated
[07:59] <jita> smw: its so hard to decide :(
[07:59] <smw> jita, whatever, I am happy now. I may try the mint gnome 3 extensions or whatever they are called when mint 12 is released
[07:59] <smw> jita, xfce just works
[07:59] <jita> smw: that would be the same stuff
[08:00] <smw> jita, same stuff?
[08:00] <jita> smw: Mint with gnome 3
[08:00] <jita> smw: better to install tint2 taskbar with unity than to use gnome 3
[08:00] <smw> jita, but they seem to be working to make a gnome2 frontend for unity
[08:00] <smw> err
[08:00] <smw> for gnome3
[08:01] <jita> from the screenshot it doesn't look that slick, well yes we can give a shot though
[08:01] <smw> jita, pretty much they are remaking gnome2 out of gnome3. No idea how successful they will be
[08:01] <smw> jita, slick?
[08:01] <Cheap_Scotsman> Anyone able to give networking advice for a device not being recognized?
[08:01] <jita> smw: not good :(
[08:01] <smw> jita, I don't want slick. I want something that works like old gnome2
[08:01] <smw> jita, xfce is pretty close at this point
[08:02] <jita> smw: what about lxde ?
[08:03] <smw> jita, I had a couple problems with lxde. The battery monitor and power management either didn't work or was non-existent and the panel kept hanging.
[08:04] <jita> smw: i am facing on issue with it too. The run command opens up in backgroung, so i have to click it in taskbar in order to make it appear
[08:05] <smw> jita, use whatever makes you happy. Right now the one problem I have with xfce is I have not yet figured out how to make it suspend when I close the lid and am off battery power
[08:06] <smw> jita, nm, just figured it out. lol
[08:06] <jita> smw: cool
[08:06] <optimusM> this is making me frustrated
[08:06] <WsAgent> Pls help me out ... I tried to make a adhoc connection to share my eth0 internet to my iphone but iphone is not getting an ip
[08:07] <optimusM> f n ubuntu is nice but so many dam errors
[08:08] <bjblaz> WsAgent: if you can afford an iphone, you can probably afford a wireless router
[08:09] <jita> smw: pretty surprising, gnome-terminal installed only single package on lubuntu. But i have to get the ubuntu 11.10 configuration from somewhere though
[08:10] <WsAgent> bjblaz: I can assume that your next coment will be "why dont you buy a Macbook Pro?"
[08:10] <soenaung> Hello! I would like to ask about Localization! Instead of going through the official pathway for translation, can we use translated OS from po files to create translated OS?
[08:11] <WsAgent> anybody Pls help me out ... I tried to make a adhoc connection to share my eth0 internet to my iphone but iphone is not getting an ip
[08:12] <leejohn> Good day guys, i would like to solicit some idea, about WAN ubuntu deployment workstation across different location
[08:13] <leejohn> My Question is there any patch or project exist to make GCONF SQL / LDAP aware ?
[08:13] <Cheap_Scotsman> Anyone know how I can get Ubuntu 11.10 to recognize a PCI network adapter that it previously recognized and now doesn't show up in my wireless tab?
[08:15] <leejohn> The only missing in my implementation is the centralization of gconf config accross the domain, we can make a workaround by using puppet and push individual xml to each user, but it's a hack
[08:19] <WsAgent> anybody Pls help me out ... I tried to make a adhoc connection to share my eth0 internet to my iphone but iphone is not getting an ip
[08:24] <tlk16> Hi,how would from the start gui programs, initiate a shared hard disk drive?
[08:26] <tlk16> which would be the command to be inserted in the startup programs gui for it?
[08:26] <tlk16> for a shared hard disk drive?
[08:27] <Zeelot> hey guys, can anyone help me out? I am trying to dual boot 11.10 on a new macbook pro (8,2) but having issues botting into any cd or usb drive I create... anyone have experience with this?
[08:27] <tlk16> Hi,how would from the start gui programs, initiate a shared hard disk drive?
[08:27] <tlk16> which would be the command to be inserted in the startup programs gui for it?
[08:29] <urlin2u> tlk16, you want a hd mounted on booting?
[08:31] <pnorman> reminds me to add hgv=* from the drive home
[08:31] <sasori> how will i know if am the root user ?
[08:31] <pnorman> whoops, wrong window
[08:31] <tlk16> urlin2u i have windows , ubuntu 11.04 and ubuntu 10.04 and i want this hd mounted when i startup my ubuntu 11.04
[08:31] <urlin2u> sasori, when do you want to know?
[08:31] <sasori> currently it's  myusername@myusername-laptop:~$
[08:31] <urlin2u> !fstab | tlk16
[08:32] <urlin2u> sasori, and your the installer of the OS right you have sudo access?
[08:32] <sasori> yes i do have sudo access and do chmod
[08:33] <sasori> but is there a command to type and see that am the root ?
[08:33] <urlin2u> sasori, so if you run sudo your the super user then is it that you want to run in root?
[08:33] <Jordan_U> sasori: whoami
[08:34] <sasori> ok, i ran whoami, it printed my username...so how will i run in root ?
[08:34] <bion> any gimp users here?
[08:34] <tlk16> urlin2u ok but which is the comand to insert  in the start gui programs?
[08:34] <urlin2u> sasori, the OS is not designed to run in root
[08:35] <urlin2u> tlk16, you don't do it that way if you want partiions mounted it is fstab.
[08:35] <sasori> i know I am the super user/root ...the whoami command only printed out my username..aren't there any other commands to print the evidence that e.g hey you're a superroot
[08:35] <Jordan_U> !sudo | sasori
[08:36] <roberto> hi
[08:36] <roberto> who can help me ?
[08:36] <sasori> ok, so you mean to say, only super root users can run "sudo" command?
[08:36] <urlin2u> sasori, yes that is true.
[08:36] <sasori> i guess that's it...though it didn't answer my question at all hehe
[08:36] <roberto> how can i change ogg to avi or mp4..
[08:36] <roberto> ?
[08:37] <Jordan_U> sasori: I would not call them "super root users", I would call them Administrators. Users in the "admin" group.
[08:38] <bion> i thought it was the wheel group
[08:38] <llutz_> bion: not on *buntu
[08:39] <sasori> ok, i was reading this book, ubuntu unleashed...there's a line that says "knowing how to run commans as super-user(root) w/o logging in as root can help avoid serious missteps when configuring yoru system."
[08:39] <Jordan_U> bion: No, that is the classic convention for which users can su to root in *NIX systems where you can do so.
[08:39] <tlk16> urlin2u ok from the  start gui programs i will search the site or comand to do it
[08:40] <sasori> so here's my curious question: how to update a system if am not logged-in as root/myusername ?
[08:41] <pnorman> sasori: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:41] <tlk16> urlin2u search /etc/fstab from start gui programs ?
[08:41] <sasori> i thought only root/superusers can use sudo command ?
[08:41] <Jordan_U> sasori: If you're logged in as a user that is a member of the "admin" group then you use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade". If you can't log in as a user that is a member of the "admin" group then you can't perform upgrades.
[08:42] <sasori> oh ok , i see, so it all depends upon the group
[08:42] <sasori> thanks :)
[08:42] <urlin2u> tlk16, I think you don't understand startup applications has nothing to do with having partitions mounted on the computer automatically it is a fstab job
[08:42] <Jordan_U> sasori: No. sudo allows you to run commands with root privileges without actually logging in as root. The users who are allowed to use sudo are *not* called "super users".
[08:42] <bion> Jordan: ahhh, good call. been a while.
[08:43] <sasori> ok, kewl :D
[08:43] <libryder> whoa awake people
[08:44] <soreau> sasori: ubuntu us only configured to allow users that are members of group admin by default
[08:44] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, so the super user is root is this correct?
[08:44] <jiltdil> MY devices are not showing on desktop, i run gconf-tool as edited there in desktop option but it is also not working. Any idea??
[08:44] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: Correct.
[08:44] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, cool thanks. :D
[08:44] <Jordan_U> urlin2u: You're welcome :)
[08:44] <soreau> sasori: /etc/sudoers can be edited to explicitly specify a user name, though the default is probably the sanest configuration
[08:45] <libryder> anyone interested in doing a code review for a semi-bash script that takes screenshots, uploads them to an image host, and puts the url in your clipboard?
[08:45] <sasori> now understand what this book is telling lol..if not logged-in as root, when executing a sudo command the terminal will ask for pwd to become root for a while XD
[08:45] <libryder> region, window, and fullscreen are the options
[08:45] <tlk16> urlin2u ok i dont understand but i will to try from start gui programs , search /etc/fstab, because is easier for me
[08:46] <bion> any gimp users here that can help via pm? or here? pretty quick and simple question
[08:46] <tlk16> i will try...
[08:46] <urlin2u> tlk16, what is start gui programs?
[08:46] <libryder> i hate gimp, so no
[08:46] <bion> libryder: oh im sorry, you must have thought i was asking for your opinion
[08:46] <bion> i wasnt
[08:46] <soreau> ! gimp | bion
[08:46] <soreau> or
[08:46] <libryder> lol :D
[08:46] <usser> libryder, thats a trojan then, eh
[08:46] <soreau> ! ask | bui
[08:46] <auronandace> !fstab | tlk16
[08:46] <soreau> gah
[08:47] <bion> ubottu: yeah i know how to google tutorials, but i have a specific problem that i need fixed
[08:47] <soreau> ! ask | bion
[08:47] <bion> soreau: well i dont want to ask gimp questions in #ubuntu -_-
[08:47] <bion> i was really asking to pm
[08:47] <tlk16> urlin2u if you want startup with compiz you must have compiz in the startup gui programs of ubntu
[08:47] <roberto> who can help me?
[08:47] <libryder> usser: you can set the destination to local, ftp, or image host... and not sure how willingly using a script could possibly qualify it as a trojan
[08:48] <soreau> bion: then use #gimp
[08:48] <usser> libryder, jk
[08:48] <tlk16> urlin2u is only a example
[08:48] <roberto> who can help me with videos format?
[08:48] <urlin2u> tlk16, it is startup applications no gui in there, what you want is a partition mounted correct?
[08:48] <libryder> phew
[08:48] <yashi-> .
[08:49] <tlk16> urlin2u ok of course
[08:49] <urlin2u> tlk16, great that is done by adding the correct lines in fstab, not the startup manager we can help you here if we are on the same page.
[08:50] <Cy> こんにちは
[08:50] <Cy> oops
[08:50] <yashi-> ive got a problem with skype on ubuntu 11.10.. it keeps crashing after i login. terminal says "aborted". seems to be a common error, but so far i couldnt find a working solution
[08:50] <roberto> i want yo change a video ogg to mp4 avi or similar! help me please!
[08:50] <urlin2u> tlk16, startup applications manager thatbs.
[08:50] <vinnie48> are you japanese or what, Cy?
[08:50] <urlin2u> is*
[08:51] <Cy> lol no, i wanted to see if japanese works on this
[08:51] <Cy> didn't realize i was still connected
[08:51] <tlk16> urlin2u whats thatbs?
[08:51] <urlin2u> is* a mistype tlk16
[08:51] <Cy> would love to get japanese working on my ubuntu tho
[08:52] <jiltdil> MY devices are not showing on desktop, i run gconf-tool as edited there in desktop option but it is also not working. Any idea??
[08:52] <soreau> roberto: ffmpeg might be able to
[08:52] <bion> soreau: no one is responding in gimp -_-
[08:52] <roberto> how can i install this?
[08:52] <soreau> ! patience | bion
[08:53] <soreau> bion: other channels may not be as responsive as this one so you have to exercise more patience
[08:53] <bion> soreau: i've waited a while now, i've asked a lot of questions on freenode and i know the protocol, you dont have to issue a bot command every time i say something
[08:53] <roberto> soreau how can install this?
[08:53] <tlk16> urlin2u ok was an error but i wanted the comand to insert in the gui
[08:53] <soreau> roberto: With apt
[08:54] <roberto> apt get install...?
[08:54] <libryder> bion: install xp/win7 in virtualbox and but a photoshop license
[08:54] <libryder> buy*
[08:54] <soreau> roberto: apt-get or the gui frontend, synaptic
[08:54] <urlin2u> tlk16, it doesn't work that way I give up good luck./
[08:54] <roberto> ok thanks
[08:54] <bion> libryder: you realize you can do anything you can with photoshop in gimp, right?
[08:54] <roberto> im going to try this
[08:54] <libryder> incorrect
[08:54] <sasori> what command to type in terminal to know what services are running? ...if on windows, it's ctrl + alt + del = task manager , what about on ubuntu?
[08:55] <bion> correct, and in some ways gimp surpasses photoshop
[08:55] <jita> Where is the ubuntu 11.10 fixed width font stored ?
[08:55] <bion> on certain things
[08:55] <bion> educate yourself
[08:55] <libryder> *reads book*
[08:55] <bion> and stop trying to act like you know everything
[08:55] <libryder> it's confirmed
[08:55] <libryder> photoshop > gimp
[08:55] <libryder> :)
[08:55] <bion> you're 12
[08:55] <bion> good job
[08:56] <yashi-> using ubuntu 11.10. skype keeps crashing ~10s after i login to the service. anyone knows this problem?
[08:56] <bion> libryder: you have no argument, the only way photoshop is better is because it is part of a suite and you can switch between programs easier like importing a vector from illistrator. otherwise, gimp is exactly the same or better in some cases
[08:57] <bion> illustrator
[08:57] <jita> Where are the fonts stored ?
[08:57] <tlk16> urlin2u ok another time will be....
[08:57] <bion> jita: can't you just google that?
[08:57] <jita> bion, sure thanks
[08:57] <yashi-> ofc ps is better than gimp... who is questioning that? io
[08:57] <yashi-> i
[08:58] <bion> LOL
[08:58] <bion> you don't know shit about photo editing software if you actually believe that yashi-
[08:58] <auronandace> can we keep it on-topic please
[08:58] <bion> #ubuntu, the hidden apple circle jerk of freenode
[08:58] <libryder> bion: it's just my experience.. i freelanced for ~2 years and i just couldn't imagine designing and mockup in gimp and subsequently converting it to html/css... it's actually an absurd thought
[08:58] <yashi-> and with me is every designstudio i guess
[08:59] <sasori> who needs photoshop or gimp? ..it's paint! for the win! :P
[08:59] <libryder> lol
[08:59] <bion> lol
[08:59] <bion> i use paint to quickly paste screencaps
[08:59] <Cy> i have a question
[08:59] <Ycarene> Ugh, had to chmod -x /usr/bin/nautilus to get it to stop starting.
[08:59] <yashi-> using ubuntu 11.10. skype keeps crashing ~10s after i login to the service. anyone knows this problem?
[09:00] <The_BROS> What easy program can make callouts and different drawings into image?
[09:00] <Cy> i have the newest ubuntu release, and its a little heavy for my computer so i tried installing xfce
[09:00] <Cy> i did sudo apt-get insta xfce4
[09:00] <Cy> and it downloaded and aparently installed
[09:01] <yashi-> Cy: that should be it
[09:01] <Cy> but the it appears that the window manager/gui(?) hasn't changed
[09:01] <bion> libryder: CS5 is the latest?
[09:01] <auronandace> Cy: log out, then when you log in again pick xfce as the session
[09:01] <yashi-> Cy: u can change the wm at the startin screen where u type in your password
[09:01] <Cy> oooh
[09:02] <libryder> bion: yes
[09:02] <Cy> thanks
[09:03] <yashi-> auronandace: btw. how do i get out of gnome back to the login screen? (without restarting)
[09:03] <soreau> yashi-: log out?
[09:03] <kopl> Ctrl alt f1
[09:03] <auronandace> yashi-: i don't know how to log out of gnome3/unity, i don't use them
[09:03] <yashi-> soreau: ioi xD where is that button?
[09:04] <soreau> yashi-: not sure for unity
[09:08] <yashi-> using ubuntu 11.10. skype keeps crashing ~10s after i login to the service. anyone knows this problem?
[09:08] <milen8204> Hello, can I get a little help about Ubuntu 11.10, more specifically backgrounds, how can I set the .html crypt , which changes some pictures as a background?
[09:09] <Bonster> ?
[09:10] <milen8204> there is the contain http://pastebin.com/25KE5rg5
[09:11] <Bonster> ?
[09:11] <yashi-> lollllllllllllll fixed the skype problem...with exact the same solution i tried yesterday ROOOOOFFFLLL
[09:11] <yashi-> solved it: mv ~/.Skype/shared.xml ~/.Skype/shared.bak
[09:16] <Bonster> crickets
[09:17] <sasori> halu,,,how to the list of users in my ubuntu machine?
[09:17] <sasori> how to see*
[09:17] <sasori> what command to type?
[09:18] <llutz_> sasori: getent passwd   or "who" for users actual logged in
[09:18] <sasori> thanks :)
[09:24] <yashi-> ive got VERY low game performance in ubuntu, compared to windows..anyone an idea what might causing it? compiz(dont think its running)?
[09:29] <rykka> you should check your graphic drive
[09:30] <matteoinspain> can someone use the terminal?
[09:33] <optimusM> how do i open source.list?
[09:34] <llutz_> optimusM: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:34] <optimusM> not in the terminal though as txt format
[09:35] <cyphase> optimusM, try right-clicking and looking in the Open With menu. or open gedit and drag it in
[09:35] <cyphase> or browse to it with the Open dialog
[09:38] <pneftali> hi guys, how do I update filezilla ?
[09:38] <lolcat> pneftali: apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade?
[09:39] <optimusM> where would i get this package...E: Couldn't find package lib32ncurses5-dev
[09:39] <Mrokii> hello. Can somebody tell me where bash puts its history-file of used commands?
[09:40] <llutz_> Mrokii: ~/.bash_history
[09:40] <Zeelot> just installed 11.10 on a macbook pro (8,2) and am not seeing any touchpad settings. Anyone know why?
[09:40] <pneftali> lolcat, done that. did not work
[09:41] <lolcat> pneftali: Why do you need a newer version?
[09:41] <r0gue> I intend to make an ntfs partition on my hard disk but i am stuck, I cannot copy the system rescue cd iso [which contains gparted] onto my flash drive
[09:41] <Mrokii> llutz_: okay, thanks.
[09:41] <r0gue> http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_install_SystemRescueCd_on_an_USB-stick i cannot follow through with that article I get an error" No such file or Directory"
[09:41] <pneftali> lolcat, i'm getting this "421 too many connections 8 from this ip" everytime i transfer large batch of files
[09:42] <lealem> can somebody help he with  ubuntu 11.04 64 bit sleep problem
[09:42] <lolcat> pneftali: Use another one?
[09:42] <optimusM> E: Couldn't find package lib32ncurses5-dev
[09:42] <optimusM> how do i fix this issue?
[09:43] <lolcat> optimusM: apt-get -f install?
[09:43] <llutz_> optimusM: sure about the package-name? isn't it "libncurses5-dev"
[09:43] <pneftali> lolcat, i'm transfering just one folder. but contains 23.7mb of files
[09:44] <optimusM> im sure thats what it says
[09:44] <NoReGreT> was anyone able to install ATI graphic drivers successfully? (by downloading it and not using "additional drivers")
[09:44] <NoReGreT> on 11.10
[09:45] <szal> pneftali: try limiting the number of simultaneous transfers
[09:45] <r0gue> http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_How_to_install_SystemRescueCd_on_an_USB-stick i cannot follow through with that article I get an error" No such file or Directory"
[09:46] <Mrokii> meh... didn't find what I am looking for. Can somebody tell me how I can use grep to look for more than one string in a file? As in: both strings should be contained in each searched line.
[09:46] <oCean> !info lib32ncurses-dev
[09:46] <oCean> optimusM: I think there's a bug somewhere, since http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/lib32ncurses5-dev states it does exist
[09:47] <optimusM> im going to try it without the 32
[09:47] <llutz_> Mrokii: grep word1 file|grep word2              grep unfortunately has no AND option
[09:48] <oCean> optimusM: if you need the 32bit, you need the 32bit :)
[09:48] <llutz_> Mrokii: or you could try to use regexp
[09:48] <Mrokii> llutz_: Thanks again. I'll try both.
[09:48] <optimusM> E: Couldn't find package zliblg-dev
[09:49] <optimusM> and i do need the 32bit
[09:49] <r0gue> how to copy system rescue cd to flash drive?
[09:49] <r0gue> how to copy system rescue cd to flash drive?and make it bootable?
[09:49] <kuchiku> anyone know how to set my isp dns server permenantly
[09:49] <optimusM> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/lib32ncurses5-dev/download
[09:50] <llutz_> kuchiku: edit your networkmanager connection and set your dns in ip4 settings
[09:51] <kuchiku> llutz where is networkmanager
[09:51] <llutz_> kuchiku: rightclick your nm-applet (the network-icon somewhere in your menue)
[09:51] <digitalyusuf> hello
[09:53] <r0gue> ;;
[09:55] <kuchiku> llutz i dont have one
[09:55] <kuchiku> i uninstall it
[09:55] <arunm> i have inode number of a file. How can i delete it using rm?
[09:55] <kuchiku> I'm using the pon command to connect
[09:56] <madadam1> Hi, I'm transferring from debian to ubuntu, how could I make a list of installe d software so I can reinstall it easily on ubuntu?
[09:56] <llutz_> kuchiku: then edit /etc/dhcpd/dhclient.conf and add a valid "prepend dns-name-servers" line. next time add some more details to your question pls
[09:56] <llutz_> !clone | madadam1
[09:56] <madadam1> llutz, thank you
[10:00] <Cy> weird question
[10:00] <Cy> i have a laptop that is from japan
[10:00] <Cy> so it has the japanese keyboard layout
[10:00] <sean_> Hello
[10:00] <Cy> mostly the same, except for some changed, like the @ symbol having its own key and what not
[10:00] <sean_> Hello
[10:01] <Cy> also there are some keys whose only purpse are to change the input from japanese to english
[10:01] <Cy> i'm wondering if i can use this as it is which scim? ibus? something?
[10:01] <bonhoffer> how do i see my processor temp?
[10:01] <sean_> I've been having trouble with my top bar on my desktop and I was wondering if someone might be able to help.
[10:01] <Cy> currently the only keys that don't seem to work are the language switching ones
[10:01] <Randolph> hi all
[10:02] <sirdeiu> bonhoffer: for CLI install lm-sensors then type sensors , for GUI install xsensors
[10:02] <lealem> can some one tell me how to fix my ubuntu 11.04 ,if i suspend it it will suspend and when i start it again it turns off completely after a min or so
[10:03] <bonhoffer> sirdeiu, thanks
[10:03] <sean_> The top bar (the one that has all the battery and wireless info) won't open for editing when I right click it, is there a way to fix it?
[10:05] <pneftali> meh it says "filezilla is already the newest version" but it's actually not
[10:05] <oCean> !info filezilla
[10:05] <oCean> pneftali: ^that's the "newest version" for oneiric
[10:06] <fx_man> Hi .. do you want to make 200$ daily ? pm me now
[10:06] <llutz_> pneftali: if you want a newer version as in the repos, look for a ppa or build it yourself
[10:06] <mirrakor> Hi there, what has to be done to get a package into the ubuntu-repositories?
[10:07] <optimusM> just wondering can i install a 64bit unbuntu on a dell inspirion?
[10:07] <bakarat> hi, without installing/upgrading/doing much of anything sound just stopped working in ubuntu 11.04, if i do "aplay -l", i get the following output: http://pastebin.com/kZTRhQjw any ideas?
[10:07] <pneftali> llutz, yeah i did sudo add-apt-repository ppa:n-muench/programs-ppa
[10:07] <llutz_> optimusM: does it have a 64bit CPU?
[10:07] <optimusM> it says 32 bit
[10:07] <mirrakor> optimusM: check the capabilities of your CPU - you have a live CD?
[10:07] <sirdeiu> optimusM: and some 4 gb ram ?
[10:07] <optimusM> i have 2 gb ram
[10:08] <llutz_> pneftali: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy filezilla       shows you the versions available
[10:08] <sirdeiu> optimusM: then nevermind
[10:08] <szal> sirdeiu: 4+ GB RAM are not necessary to run 64bit
[10:08] <sirdeiu> optimusM: also like above said, if your CPU isn't 64bit capable you can not install it
[10:08] <sirdeiu> szal: yes but there isn't any advantage in installing 64bit with less ram no ?
[10:09] <sirdeiu> just wasting memory
[10:09] <szal> why wasting memory?
[10:09] <pneftali> llutz,i'm still using lucid version, and 3.3.1 is the latest version of filezilla. the ones in ocelot is the correct one
[10:09] <blahblahblah> hi guys.
[10:10] <llutz_> pneftali: then you have to look for backports. the oneiric-one will hardly work on lucid (check the dpends)
[10:10] <blahblahblah> i wanted to try the 3 and 4 finger multitouch gestures on this toshiba portege m700.  however nothing happens when i try the gestures.  is there a configuration tool for this or is multitouch simply not supported on certain models?
[10:11] <Evil_One> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 server. The 'man 5 motd.tail' pages contains an error. The file '/etc/init.d/bootmisc' does not exist anymore. Just wanted to report that.
[10:11] <llutz_> Evil_One: file a bug-report
[10:12] <Evil_One> llutz_: where do I do that?
[10:12] <llutz_> Evil_One: launchpad
[10:12] <sirdeiu> szal: if he's only got 2gb ram he's wasting them with 64bit OS
[10:13] <szal> sirdeiu: again, how is that wasting RAM?
[10:13] <Evil_One> llutz_: Got it. Thanks.
[10:13] <AndIrc_> hello, can someone help me with driver's?
[10:13] <kuchiku> llutz i dont know what should i add
[10:13] <pneftali> llutz, okay thanks. i'll just limit the connections for lesser hassle.
[10:14] <szal> !ask | AndIrc_
[10:14] <kuchiku> brb
[10:14] <AndIrc_> why is ubottu so mean to me. i did ask a question.
[10:14] <mirrakor> szal: it is true, if you've less than 4GB and don't plan to upgrade it's wasting memory since the addresses are longer (64bit instead of 32bit)
[10:14] <llutz_> kuchiku:  " prepend domain-name-servers  8.8.8.8"    whatever your dns-servers IP is
[10:14] <mirrakor> AndIrc_: bad carma?
[10:14] <Chosi> wouldn't !patience translate into impatience?
[10:15] <Chosi> :>
[10:15] <AndIrc_> i suppose so.
[10:15] <sirdeiu> 64bit wider than 32bit
[10:15] <AndIrc_> I h
[10:15] <mirrakor> AndIrc_: why is it mean to you?
[10:15] <szal> mirrakor: lol, and how much does that make?
[10:15] <llutz_> AndIrc_: read your (dumb) question again. are you really expecting one to answer on it?
[10:16] <pnorman> I want to disable the line that says "Graph this data and manage this system at https://landscape.canonical.com/" on login. It appears to be coming from /usr/bin/landscape-sysinfo. What's the best way to do so?
[10:16] <AndIrc_> i just ordered a new graphics card and Idk how to find the linux driver for it.
[10:16] <mirrakor> AndIrc_: which card?
[10:16] <llutz_> !details | AndIrc_
[10:17] <AndIrc_> I just ordered the ati raedon 5400 series i believe it is.
[10:17] <mirrakor> !ati
[10:17] <szal> .oO( omg, he doesn't even know what he ordered.. )
[10:18] <AndIrc_> wow no one but mirrakor in this channel iis helpful. everyone else is useless and very ruude.
[10:18] <mirrakor> AndIrc_: that's because I'm new to ubuntu and original came from openSUSE/Gentoo :D
[10:18] <sirdeiu> AndIrc_: i beg to differ
[10:19] <AndIrc_> i am also new to ubuntu, that's why I'm here. not to have Smartass comments from stupid people.
[10:19] <oCean> Enough, let's move back to support. Remember when helping, be helpful
[10:19] <szal> !attitude | AndIrc_
[10:21] <mirrakor> AndIrc_: yeah, but it's a common thing amongst linux channels, at the beginning they seem to be a bit rude (I personally think it's the lack of female users, but this could be an evil spiral) - but if you show good will eventually someone will try to help you, that's at least what I experienced
[10:21] <oCean> Let's end that discussion now, and move back on topic
[10:21] <pnorman> Ah - to remove the landscape link, add --exclude-sysinfo-plugins=LandscapeLink to the line calling it in /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo
[10:22] <pnorman> or better yet, edit /etc/landscape/client.conf
[10:22] <Cy> how to set chrome as default browser
[10:22] <nibbler_> calling the ubottu templates that get used 100 times a day rude i something i didnt hear before
[10:24] <sirdeiu> Cy: google-chrome default browser in 11.10 go to System Settings / System Info / Default Applications / Web ...
[10:25] <Cy> thanks
[10:25] <sirdeiu> actually that was a weird choice to bury the Default Applications that deep
[10:26] <llutz_> sirdeiu: users shouldn't change things ...
[10:26] <mirrakor> was that serious?
[10:26] <sirdeiu> llutz_:  why not ?
[10:26] <llutz_> oh, ;) missing
[10:26] <sirdeiu> I am an user and i've changed  some things :)
[10:27] <mirrakor> (because I halfway expected it to be true (: )
[10:29] <xavdu21800> bonjour
[10:29] <mirrakor> hi
[10:30] <xavdu21800> mirrakor,
[10:30] <xavdu21800> tu est français ?
[10:30] <szal> !fr | xavdu21800
[10:30] <mirrakor> xavdu21800: je ne pa parle francais :/ (was that right? )
[10:31] <lexflex> mirrakor: pa is pas i think
[10:31] <pratz> hey guys i am using dia to design my database diagrams, can i convert the diagram to a data dictonary ?
[10:31] <bekks> pratz: To a data dictionary to be used by which other program?
[10:31] <Evil_One> llutz_: hey, are you still here helping people? I've installed 'apport/ubuntu-bug' It wants me to give a up a package name. What package do I give up for 'incomplete information on the man 5 motd.tail' man page?
[10:32] <bekks> Evil_One: "motd"
[10:32] <Evil_One> bekks: thanks. (Didn't know that was a package)
[10:32] <pratz> bekks: i will design database diagram, and the program should automatically give me the data dictionary for me
[10:32] <llutz_> Evil_One: manpages: /usr/share/man/man5/motd.tail.5.gz
[10:32] <lx-gr> will firefox 8 be available via one of the official repositories in oneiric? or do i have to use a ppa?
[10:32] <pratz> bekks: i was thinking to use dia, but not quit sure if it generates data dict
[10:32] <bekks> Evil_One: Even if not, someone easily can see what it is related to, and possibly reassign it.
[10:33] <lx-gr> the wiki says that oneiric-updates will only have bug fixes, i guess it won't be delivered that way?
[10:33] <bekks> lx-gr: "it"?
[10:33] <lx-gr> firefox 8
[10:33] <bekks> No.
[10:33] <lx-gr> so i'll have to use a ppa? or is there some feature update repository?
[10:34] <bekks> New major version are not delivered as update, only in case of severe breakage of the old version.
[10:34] <bekks> lx-gr: You have to use a ppa.
[10:34] <lexflex> what is a cool file manager for ubuntu? like commander-style?
[10:34] <lx-gr> ok, thanks!
[10:34] <sirdeiu> lexflex: gnome-commander
[10:34] <szal> bekks: FF5–7 have been delivered through updates in Natty, so one would expect the same for FF8 in Oneiric
[10:34] <ErtanERBEK> bekks, Do you have PPA address for Ubuntu 11.04 64 Bit
[10:35] <ErtanERBEK> for Mozilla software
[10:35] <bekks> ErtanERBEK: https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=mozilla there are several PPA for mozilla software
[10:36] <lx-gr> szal: that's what i thougt too.. i'm confused now.
[10:36] <lx-gr> i'm pretty sure i've received firefox 7 via updates in natty
[10:36] <Evil_One> bekks: it has to be a real package. Else it won't Submit. Thanks anyway but llutz_ solved my problem. (thanks again for that.)
[10:37] <Evil_One> I'll file more bugs in the future.
[10:37] <bonhoffer> how do i shorten my prompt?
[10:37] <bonhoffer> just > for example
[10:37] <ErtanERBEK> bekks, Thank you
[10:37] <llutz_> Evil_One: use dpkg -S file   or apt-file search file    to find packages a file belongs to
[10:37] <szal> bonhoffer: why would you want such an uninformative prompt?
[10:37] <bonhoffer> szal, because i'm an idiot
[10:37] <raven> fstab automount failed - any ideas?
[10:38] <sirdeiu> bonhoffer: lol
[10:38] <llutz_> bonhoffer: export PS1=">"
[10:39] <bonhoffer> llutz_, thanks!
[10:39] <bsusatu> do you have ati radeon mobility 3650 ....???? cant check temperature? please help?
[10:39] <bekks> raven: Try mounting it manually, using the entry in your fstab - and show us the complete output in a nopaste, along with the fstab entry.
[10:39] <llutz_> bonhoffer:you won't be happy with that if you use cli more than once a year
[10:40] <bonhoffer> got you
[10:40] <raven> bekks, that works without problems
[10:40] <bekks> raven: Then show us the the fstab entry please.
[10:41] <raven> bekks, its a lvm "device": /dev/srv/data /media/data/	ext3	defaults	0	0
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Evil_One: you can also use http://packages.ubuntu.com to search packages
[10:43] <bekks> raven: You shouldnt use /media or paths peneath for mounting through the fstab, since that path is being used by the automounter.
[10:43] <raven> bekks, i created /media/data on my own
[10:43] <Evil_One> yes thanks for that. But honestly I know how I can find packages thank you. Just needed to know how to report a specifiek man pages(I know now).
[10:44] <bekks> raven: That doesnt change anything on what I said.
[10:44] <raven> what is the solution then?
[10:44] <bekks> Use another path.
[10:44] <bekks> Like /mydata/data
[10:46] <raven> bekks, /home/user/ also does not work
[10:47] <bekks> raven: Of course.
[10:47] <raven> bekks, but it worked some time ago
[10:47] <bekks> raven: BEcause that is a homedirectory of a user.
[10:47] <bekks> Use a path that isnt used otherwise.
[10:47] <raven> bekks, yes of MY username
[10:48] <sirdeiu> raven: you can't overwrite your homedirectory because your be left without a home!
[10:48] <bekks> raven: Use a path that isnt used otherwise.
[10:48] <sirdeiu> raven: try /home/user/mydata instead
[10:49] <sirdeiu> or replace mydata with what you need / like.
[10:49] <raven> sirdeiu, bekks so why does it work manually then
[10:49] <sirdeiu> well other than path problems ...maybe permissions problems ?
[10:49] <bonhoffer> anyone know how to get emacs 24 on ubuntu 11.10?
[10:49] <bekks> raven: Why dont you use another path?
[10:50] <sirdeiu> raven: also why not try autofs, depending on what you're trying to accomplish with the mount
[10:50] <raven> because what you say does not make sense - i created folders by my own and can mount to them manually but i cannot with fstab
[10:51] <sirdeiu> raven: what does sudo mount -a tell you in regard to the specific mount ?
[10:52] <bekks> You are using folders that are already used by other things. /media is used by the automounter, you shouldnt use a path beneath that. Same applies for /home. As I already said.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> !info emacs
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: http://al-ix.blogspot.com/2011/02/get-emacs24-for-linux-now.html
[10:54] <melvincv> hi guys, if I use the Ubuntu Server Guide to configure networking on an Ubuntu desktop, will there be any issues? (editing /etc/network/interfaces)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: should be fine
[10:55] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[10:55] <bonhoffer> i did look, just didn't see that one
[10:57] <melvincv> ActionParsnip: thanks, does the default NetworkManager use the same file?
[10:58] <bekks> melvincv: No.
[10:58] <bekks> NM ignores all interfaces defined/used in that file.
[11:00] <melvincv> ok, what file does NM use then? Can I use the terminal to edit it's config file?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> melvincv: if you use the interfaces file, network manager will not be able to manage the interface you configure
[11:00] <bekks> melvincv: NM doesnt use a single file. You should use the GUI to configure NM the way you like.
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> or use wicd :)
[11:00] <bekks> I dont support using wicd at all :)
[11:00] <theadmin> melvincv: To manage networkmanager's stuff via CLI, you should use the "nmcli" command.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> wicd has both, it has an awesome curses UI for CLI goodness, great for servers
[11:01] <melvincv> theadmin: thanks, i'm an admin too :)
[11:01] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Yeah, wicd is great
[11:02] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Hasn't ever failed me :D
[11:02] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Well, okay, netcfg is good too but... I don't think we have that in the repos
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> !info wicd
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> 56kb, niiiice
[11:03] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ahem, "metapackage".
[11:03] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: metapackage
[11:03] <theadmin> !info wicd-gtk
[11:04] <melvincv> theadmin: ok, how do I use nmcli to set a manual IP address, etc.
[11:04] <theadmin> melvincv: Not sure, honestly, I just know that command can be used to manage (at least parts of) networkmanager via the commandline
[11:05] <helloworld> My computers been slow for the last hour because for no reason my hd is overburdened. I typed "w" and found that this things are running in the background "/bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc". What does this mean?
[11:05] <theadmin> helloworld: That would be related to your graphical environment, in this case XFCE4.
[11:06] <bekks> helloworld: That an X server is running, and obviously XFCE is running too.
[11:06] <theadmin> helloworld: Use htop to find out what's eating your CPU/RAM
[11:06] <helloworld> Alright thanks
[11:12] <gebbione> hi ... in ubuntu 11.10 with gconf-editor i cannot manage to show the my computer/network etc icons ... can you suggest how?
[11:12] <Abhijit> gebbione: you want to show them on desktop?
[11:12] <gebbione> yes
[11:12] <Abhijit> use gnome3 tweak tool
[11:12] <Abhijit> its in software center
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> gebbione: gconf editor is gnome2, oneiric uses gnome 3 which uses dconf-editor
[11:14] <gebbione> great thanks :D
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> gebbione: dconf-editor then org > gnome > nautilus > desktop
[11:15]  * ActionParsnip doesn't even use gnome desktop....
[11:16] <SThor> Hi, I am trying to install the wifi card WG311V3 on the latest ubuntu. I followed the instructions on the wiki, and it worked yesterday night right after having installed it. Yet today after reboot there is no wlan0 interface.
[11:16] <Abhijit> from this kde the basket access its defualt ./kde/basket location. but i have alreday stored notes in gnome3 basket? how can i access them from hhere?
[11:16] <Abhijit> help please
[11:16] <SThor> I am on 64bits and I followed the specific instructions
[11:17] <airtonix> Abhijit: define "gnome3 basket"
[11:17] <Abhijit> airtonix: basket application accessed from gnome3
[11:17] <SThor> ndiswrapper -l gives me driver installed, hardware present
[11:17] <Abhijit> that do not store its notes in ./kde/baskets
[11:17] <airtonix> Abhijit: since basket is actually a kde application
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> SThor: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    you will see the wireless chip, what does it use?
[11:17] <Abhijit> airtonix: yes and i needed to access that basket notes here from kde basket
[11:18] <SThor> let me check, it is not on that pc :)
[11:18] <Abhijit> but i dont know location of that gnome basket
[11:18] <airtonix> Abhijit: what makes you think there is such a thing as "a gnome basket" the program is hard wired to store its user land data in ~/.kde/basket
[11:19] <SThor> ActionParsnip, it is here, but network is unclaimed
[11:19] <Abhijit> airtonix: let me check if my old notes are there wait
[11:19] <theadmin> What is a "basket" anyway?
[11:19] <airtonix> theadmin: it's a note taking application
[11:19] <airtonix> theadmin: like tomboy but with alot more features
[11:19] <luckyneo> Hi, I have a big problem with CPU scaling. I want to disable it and let my CPU work on maximum frequency. I tried every idea that I find in google but nothing works. When I set CPU to maximum freq on widget it last for a while but then freq begin to change anyway. I have Ubuntu 11.04 (2.6.38-12-generic). Please help.
[11:19] <theadmin> airtonix: Interesting...
[11:20] <glioros> any suggestions for hosting companies ? need a vps server....
[11:20] <SThor> ActionParsnip, what do you mean what does it use?
[11:20] <airtonix> glioros: amazon?
[11:21] <Abhijit> airtonix: whtsa the kde shortcut for show hidden files? for gnome its ctrl h
[11:21] <glioros> amazon???
[11:21] <theadmin> Abhijit: alt+.
[11:21] <airtonix> glioros: amazon web services
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> SThor: the command will show the wireless chip, its the product line for the device in the command's output
[11:22] <SThor> ActionParsnip, it is the right one.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: that is real annoying if you switch between DEs
[11:22] <jrib> !ot | glioros
[11:22] <airtonix> glioros: specifically their ec2 component
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> SThor: yes but what does it say?????
[11:22] <SThor> oh, sorry
[11:22] <SThor> I'll check again :
[11:22] <SThor> :)
[11:22] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Not exactly, all depends on your filemanager -- if you just use Nautilus in KDE it will also be Ctrl+H
[11:22] <glioros> airtonix are you sure amazon have dedicated and vps servers?
[11:22] <airtonix> glioros: yes?
[11:23] <Abhijit> theadmin: ok
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: yeah but you'l pull in a tone of GTK deps, not very graceful
[11:23] <SThor> ActionParsnip, 88W8335 [libertas]
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> SThor: thanks, let me search
[11:23] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: If you have gnome and kde already not a big deal :D And, you can just use pcmanfm or thunar, considering they are very lightweight and don't depend on too much
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> SThor: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:23] <glioros> cant find something can you give me their website?
[11:23] <jrib> glioros: this topic isn't appropriate for this channel, please ask somewhere else (for example #ubuntu-offtopic)
[11:23] <Adamantus> Hi. I was wondering, what's the easiest way of getting foxit on Ubuntu 11?
[11:24] <SThor> ActionParsnip, uuh wait a second
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: oh sure but I like to keep my DEs pure :)
[11:24] <Adamantus> foxit reader that is
[11:24] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I see, well, for my dekstop Thunar is the main file manager (XFCE)
[11:25]  * theadmin finds it funny how thunar-dropbox works for her but nautilus-dropbox doesn't
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: pcmanfm has network browsing now (samba access etc ). Its sweet
[11:25] <SThor> ActionParsnip, oneiric
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> SThor: did you run: echo 'blacklist mrv8k' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[11:25] <patagriff> I tried to access help in an ubuntu app using Chrome as my browser. Got error message saying it could not find my browser. Now everytime I click on help. I get the same error message, but no option to select another browser. How do I fix this?
[11:25] <SThor> okay, wait a minute
[11:25] <SThor> I did not
[11:26] <theadmin> patagriff: "Default applications", choose Chrome for a browser there
[11:26] <patagriff> I did that, but it did not work.
[11:26] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah, nifty, but I kinda need a filemanager with a dropbox plugin and that leaves me with dolphin, nautilus and thunar
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> SThor: theadmin nautilus-dropbox is ok here in kde. Weird
[11:27] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: It's broken in gnome3
[11:27] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Or was the last I checked
[11:29] <stephen_> hello ubuntu folks.
[11:29] <theadmin> Hey stephen_
[11:29] <stephen_> someone can say something to running ubuntu/xubuntu on a thinkpad R61, i. e. i'm interested if it's principially good supported
[11:29] <qwer123> Which package to install for watching *.uml files as diagram ?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: I don't use gnome these days.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: used LXDE and KDE for the last 3 or 4 releases
[11:30] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Neither do I, I like my XFCE
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> stephen_: may help http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[11:30] <SThor> ActionParsnip, I blacklisted it and rebooted. Same as before.
[11:30] <jamil_1> what is the recommended size of boot partition ?
[11:31] <patagriff> I'll try again.
[11:31] <bekks> jamil_1: 200MB should be enough.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> SThor: did you use ndiswrapper with the windows driver?
[11:32] <jamil_1> bekks: is possible to have the /home/<username> on one partition and the rest on another ?
[11:32] <jamil_1> *it
[11:32] <iceroot> jamil_1: sure
[11:32] <bekks> jamil_1: Yes.
[11:32] <qwer123> How to open *.uml and *.umlusc as diagram ??
[11:32] <qwer123> is this possible?
[11:32] <SThor> ActionParsnip, yes, and ndiswrapper -l gives me driver installed, hadrware present
[11:33] <Jonii> Hey, are there any useful tutorials about how to use linux CLI?
[11:33] <jamil_1> bekks: I am installing kubuntu right now on a Dell laptop, and there is no option to specify a separate partition
[11:33] <Adamantus> which repository would foxit reader be in please?
[11:34] <Jonii> Something that starts from the basics and proceeds to something fairly useful and advanced. Say, 3-10h worth of studying
[11:34] <theadmin> Jonii: "man intro" should be a good start :D
[11:35] <theadmin> Jonii: Specifically, "man 1 intro"
[11:35] <theadmin> Jonii: After that, just go googling "bash tutorial" and, well
[11:36] <stephen_> ActionParsnip, interestingly
[11:36] <Jonii> theadmin, I've tried googling. Most hits I've got turned out to be less-than-optimal, and it's pretty frustrating to try and evaluate quality of guides to a subject matter you know very little about
[11:36] <jamil_1> what should be the size of partition for distribution (ie., without the /home/<username> ) ?
[11:36] <jamil_1> 15 gig ?
[11:36] <theadmin> jamil_1: 20 gigs should be plenty... 15 sounds like a bit small
[11:37] <jamil_1> theadmin: right
[11:37] <theadmin> Jonii: Well then, just stick around here and ask how to do this or that via the command line :D
[11:37] <theadmin> Jonii: That's how I learned mostly
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> stephen_: is the ndiswrapper module loaded? You can check with:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:40] <Tyrope> I'm getting annoyed by the amount of times it takes to burn a working ubuntu CD. I follow the steps on the website yet still i get errors: "EDD: Error 8000 reading sector X" Where X are sequenced 6-digit numbers.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> !manual | Jonii
[11:41] <jrib> Tyrope: checksum your iso
[11:41] <stephen_> ActionParsnip: why would i need ndiswrapper now?
[11:41] <Tyrope> jrib: Been there, done that.
[11:41] <jrib> Tyrope: verify your burned cd
[11:41] <Tyrope> Ditto.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> stephen_: are you SThor ?
[11:41] <jrib> Tyrope: then you have burned a working ubuntu cd.  Try the alternate disc
[11:41] <Tyrope> ran the error check on the disc itself.
[11:42] <Tyrope> There's an alternate?
[11:42] <jrib> !aletrnate | Tyrope
[11:42] <jrib> !alternate | Tyrope
[11:42] <Tyrope> Thx
[11:42] <jrib> Tyrope: you may also try burning at a slower speed like 2-4x
[11:42] <gogeta> Tyrope: dont use dl amangers for the iso then tend to cruppt it
[11:42] <gogeta> managers
[11:42] <gogeta> they
[11:42] <melvincv> How is Ubuntu Server compared to CentOS?
[11:42] <Tyrope> gogeta: I'm using the default firefox download.
[11:42] <stephen_> ActionParsnip: no why should i?
[11:43] <Tyrope> jrib: i've used the torrent one aswell.
[11:43] <snorkledorf> What would be a small-yet-reasonable amount of HDD space to allocate for a new install in a VM on laptop without a whole lot of space to spare? Mostly for poking around and learning my way around Linux, so I won't be using it for serious work yet.
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> stephen_: sorry, wrong nick then :(
[11:43] <gogeta> Tyrope: your cdrw just getting bad maybe
[11:43] <Tyrope> The machine is 3 days old!
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> SThor: is ndiswrapper loaded? You can check with:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:43] <gluesniffmonkey> How do I fix this perl issue on Ubuntu 10.04?: New CPAN.pm version (v1.9800) available. [Currently running version is v1.9402]
[11:44] <jrib> snorkledorf: why do you need to allocate any?  Don't VM's have dynamic resizing now?
[11:44] <gluesniffmonkey> I seem to be in a catch 22 where it won't upgrade
[11:44] <Tyrope> snorkledorf: I'd say 2 gigs, dynamically.
[11:44] <Tyrope> 12*derp
[11:45] <denny> gluesniffmonkey: 'sudo cpan Bundle::CPAN' doesn't work for you?
[11:45] <snorkledorf> jrib: good point, I'll look at my settings and see if the disk the thing is trying to make is dynamic
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> snorkledorf: with about 8Gb you'll be ok
[11:45] <Tyrope> but that's just because my soon-to-be ubuntu machine will have 12.
[11:45] <dellhem> Hi. I'm trying to install Flexget but have som problems configuring the config.yml from terminal. "~/.flexget/config.yml" results in "permission denied". Sudo gedit & sudo vi does'nt work either. How do i change the permissions for the file?
[11:45] <jrib> snorkledorf: I would just start with whatever ubuntu needs to install nowadays + 1 gig
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> dellhem: don't use sudo with gedit, use gksudo
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> dellhem: you can use chmod and chown to modify the file, assuming it exists
[11:46] <snorkledorf> OK, install + 1GB thru 4~8GB, good ball-park info. Should be enough to get me rolling. Thanks!
[11:46] <dellhem> actionparsnip: "cannot open display"
[11:46] <dellhem> samma as with sudo
[11:46] <dellhem> same*
[11:46] <theadmin> dellhem: sudo chown $USER ~/.flexget/config.yml && sudo chmod u=rw ~/.flexget/config.yml
[11:46] <Guest34376> hello
[11:47] <gluesniffmonkey> denny no. (CPAN__unchanged__v1.9402)(CPAN::Author__unchanged__v5.5)
[11:47] <Guest34376> list
[11:47] <theadmin> dellhem: If you have acl support, then probably this would be better: sudo setfacl -m u:$USER:rw ~/.flexget/config.yml
[11:47] <gluesniffmonkey> New CPAN.pm version (v1.9800) available.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> dellhem: are you using a desktop OS or server (no X)
[11:47] <denny> you should see some errors on the end that tell you which supporting modules failed to install, and possibly why
[11:47] <surial> Does Samba log anyplace? Since a system update a bunch of softlinks are no longer working, yet each entry is r-x accessible.
[11:48] <surial> Wondering what's happening there.
[11:48] <gulzar> how to search for mono packeage. If any left?
[11:48] <dellhem> actionparsnip: desktop
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: do you mean installed packages?
[11:48] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:48] <Keychar> Hi, I have a problem with a hard disk, but I don't know which
[11:48] <Guest34376> !list
[11:49] <Keychar> could someone tell me how I identify "ata17"??
[11:49] <gulzar> ActionParsnip: any command to find abt them?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> gulzar: dpkg -l | grep mono
[11:49] <leali> what package do i need to install to get network file sharing
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> leali: samba
[11:50] <leali> Actionparsnip other than samba
[11:50] <varikonniemi> hello, what are the reasons packages are kept back at apt-get upgrade ?
[11:51] <theadmin> varikonniemi: Try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:51] <jamil_1> cant find the keyboard layout for my dell laptop
[11:51] <Keychar> onyone? I need to find out the device name of ata17, because it's everywhere in my dmesg
[11:51] <varikonniemi> theadmin, thanks it worked
[11:51] <theadmin> gulzar: If you remove mono, anything what depends on mono will also be removed so
[11:51] <theadmin> varikonniemi: No problem
[11:51] <varikonniemi> theadmin, what is the logic behind that
[11:51] <leali> what package will enable me share files b/n two computers on ubuntu
[11:51] <jamil_1> here is the layout http://www.laptopzparts.com/images/b/20110621/AAPCK100512.jpg
[11:52] <theadmin> varikonniemi: dist-upgrade installs new dependencies, if any. upgrade doesn't
[11:52] <varikonniemi> ok
[11:52] <Jonii> Okay, so, I want to copy a file from a remote computer to my home folder
[11:52] <gulzar> theadmin: not interested in this infection.... ya.. but removing Banshee for clementine , tomboy for gnote/xpad and fspot for shotwell is a GOOD and GREAT move
[11:52] <jrib> Jonii: scp
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> leali: depends what technology you want to use then, there's ftp, sftp as well as other
[11:53] <Jonii> jrib: yeah. Now, the tricky part is, can I use it after I've already connected there?
[11:53] <theadmin> gulzar: for me, it's vlc, vim and eog :D
[11:53] <Jonii> From the remote machine?
[11:53] <jrib> Jonii: only if you have server running on both ends.  If you really want to do this, look into zssh, sz, and rz
[11:53] <leali> ActionParsnip i want to use lan cable
[11:54] <gulzar> theadmin: too good. Vlc is the first thing I install to remove all multimedia probs
[11:54] <gulzar> theadmin: never tried eog. what is it?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> leali: that's not what I mean. How do you want to share the folder?
[11:54] <nextnewbee> after installing ubuntu 11.10 i have a black screen...? What can i do?
[11:54] <apwbdjp> gulzar, the gnome image viewer (eye of gnome)
[11:54] <theadmin> gulzar: Eye of GNOME, the old photomanager they used back in 9.04 or so
[11:54] <Jonii> jrib: I'm asking because it's trickier to first check from the server which file you want to copy, and then go back to my own computer, type the path, log in again and only then move the file
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> leali: the transmission media is irrelevant, as long as there is a logical connection it doesn't matter what is used
[11:55] <gulzar> apwbdjp: theadmin : Ok ... nice and simple
[11:55] <jrib> Jonii: well with zsh it does completion for me, are you sure bash does not do the same?
[11:55] <Jonii> zsh?
[11:55] <apwbdjp> gulzar, pretty awesome. I have lxde here and it's still the one I use.
[11:55] <leali> ActionParsnip i want to copy movie from my pc to my friends
[11:55] <jrib> Jonii: alternative shell to bash that I use
[11:55] <gulzar> apwbdjp: Me too is using LXDE
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> leali: ok but over LAN or WAN?
[11:56] <Jonii> jrib, how could it, when it has not logged in yet? :o
[11:56] <leali> ActionParsnip over lan
[11:56] <theadmin> gulzar: Yeah, sure is -- altough I myself don't mind mono, I even code for it sometimes :/ I like C#
[11:56] <jrib> Jonii: it logs in itself I suppose.  Probably only works if you use ssh keys
[11:56] <gulzar> apwbdjp: I installed all.. unity, gnome shell, xfce and lxde but lxde is my first choice
[11:56] <theadmin> gulzar: But those apps you have listed aren't useful at all anyway
[11:56] <Jonii> Okay
[11:57] <gulzar> theadmin: i like the way of programming but not the MS
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> leali: then samba or ftp will allow you to easily share files
[11:57] <theadmin> gulzar: Same I guess
[11:57] <jrib> !info zssh | Jonii
[11:57] <apwbdjp> gulzar, I tried most of 'em, then I installed Ubunu CLI only, and started building a minimal system (for my netbook)
[11:58] <leali> ActionParsnip can you tell me the command to install samba
[11:58] <dellhem> ActionParsnip: "ls -l ~/.flexget/config.yml" shows "-rw-rw-rw-" but I still can't open it from terminal. Should "~/.flexget/config.yml" be enough or am I missing something to be able to edit it?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> leali: sudo apt-get install samba
[11:58] <jamil_1> http://www.laptopzparts.com/images/b/20110621/AAPCK100512.jpg
[11:58] <jamil_1> anyone ?
[11:59] <gulzar> apwbdjp: i tried minimal.iso but with slow GPRS it took abt 5 hrs but no result and then I have to shutdown . Never tried again.. but that's good ..having all the configuraitons in our own hand. Then why not Arch?
[11:59] <gogeta> gulzar: gprs lol
[11:59] <theadmin> gulzar: I have pm'ed you, hope that's okay
[11:59] <gulzar> gogeta: ya here in  INDIA we have this connection with 24KBps as 3G
[12:00] <leali>  Actiobparsnip then what
[12:01] <Keychar> could onyone help me? I'm getting really(!) frustrated at my computer for logging hard disk errors on ata17 without any way to find out which disk that is
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> gedit ~/.flexget/config.yml    wil open it ok, you have write access (everybody has write access)
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> leali: then use nautilus to share folders
[12:02] <melvincv> gulzar: that's hopeless. Which 3G provider is that so that I can avoid it?
[12:02] <leali> ActionParsnip tnx
[12:03] <gulzar> melvincv: that was pun
[12:03] <soWhat> is oneiric netbook friendly?
[12:03] <gulzar> melvincv: 3G in INDIA started just a year back with 2G speed so not very popular
[12:04] <melvincv> gulzar: I'm from Kerala. Using BSNL broadband.
[12:05] <gulzar> melvincv: BSNL is one exception..beacause they started very time bakc iwth wired connections but I don't like them (persnally).. very horrable service
[12:05] <soWhat> how can i remove this unity desktop in oneiric? please help me, this is not meant for netbook
[12:05] <jrib> !nounity | soWhat
[12:06] <haylo-> yeah well you know you can install xubunu desktop gulzar in software senter
[12:06] <jrib> soWhat: you can also try other desktop environments like xfce or kde
[12:06] <gulzar> haylo-: yup..not only xfce but all of them including e17
[12:07] <haylo-> you will still be contributing to the ubuntu community at a slighty increased pace- sryt gulzar must have gotten the names wrng
[12:07] <soWhat> another thing is wireless is not supported out-of-the-box by jockey.. i can't switch off bluetooth and wifi through the Fn keys
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> leali: np man
[12:08] <gulzar> haylo-: no prob
[12:09] <Dark_Apostrophe> For metalheads/lovers of good music, here's a happy non-Ubuntu-related tidbit: Black Sabbath are reuniting in 2012, doing a tour and releasing a new album.
[12:09] <g0th> hi
[12:09] <g0th> I use latest kubuntu oneiric
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Apostrophe: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:10] <Dark_Apostrophe> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I'm done. Was just that one line. :P
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Dark_Apostrophe: now you know for next time too :)
[12:10] <Dark_Apostrophe> Alright, thanks :)
[12:11] <Dark_Apostrophe> g0th: So... do you have a problem? :)
[12:11] <Dark_Apostrophe> Oh, btw, ActionParsnip - that fix for the Linux kernel power regression, when can it be expected to land in the main repositories? Weeks?
[12:12] <soWhat> darrrrnnn, i hate oneiric :D
[12:12] <soWhat> thought ubuntu will be more exciting but not :(
[12:12] <dr_willis> you expecting dancing penguins and fireworks?
[12:13] <g0th> I cannot click on anything on the kde panel. it is non responsive  and the first desktop is supposed to have a background slideshow but it is just black  also I should have 6 horizontal desktops but it seems it is 6 desktops in 2 rows (instead of 1).   Also: whenever I try to upload something with
[12:13] <soWhat> lucid will still be my best choice
[12:13] <g0th>  firefox the upload windownever finnishes loading, so I have to use chromium for that. What's going  on??
[12:13] <g0th> Dark_Apostrophe: the most urgent is that my kde panel is not responsive at all
[12:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> Hmm... I can't help you there, I use Unity.
[12:14] <g0th> unity?
[12:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> You could try killing the related KDE processes, I guess
[12:14] <dr_willis> !unity
[12:14] <Dark_Apostrophe> and manually restarting them from console
[12:14] <g0th> I already did "service kdm stop" "service kdm start"
[12:14] <g0th> it doesnt help
[12:15] <Dark_Apostrophe> I mean killall or kill -9 pid
[12:15] <dr_willis> that would just restart the X session g0th
[12:15] <g0th> yes
[12:15] <g0th> and also all kde related stuff
[12:15] <dr_willis> g0th:  try making a new user. see if it affects them also.
[12:15] <g0th> but still I have the same issue
[12:15] <soWhat> i hope there will be another netbook release because 11.10 seems so heavy for netbooks :(
[12:15] <g0th> I try to mv .kde to .kde.bak
[12:15] <g0th> dr_willis: is that ok too?
[12:16] <dr_willis> soWhat:  theres always lubuntu, or xubuntu
[12:16] <dr_willis> g0th:  either way.. its easier to just make a new user. :)
[12:16] <Dark_Apostrophe> soWhat: I'm on a regular laptop, and it's heavy there, too... fan always running. But otherwise, I love it
[12:16] <soWhat> i don't like 'em :D i like the original one :D ,, yeah my hard disk keeps on spinning here on 11.10
[12:16] <g0th> how do I login with another user?
[12:17] <g0th> but stay login with this one?
[12:17] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[12:17] <keda87> helo anyone
[12:17] <g0th> login
[12:17] <dr_willis> then log out/back in.. is what i am refering to..
[12:17] <g0th> so I have to quite all running stuff?
[12:17] <dr_willis> thats the idea of the test. to see if its a user setting issue  or a system setting issue.
[12:17] <g0th> ok
[12:17] <keda87> anyone know blackbuntu repo link?
[12:17] <g0th> brb
[12:17] <apwbdjp> gulzar, sorry I wasn't here. About the minimal CD, it's not what I used. I used the alternate CD to install the command line system (no need to download), and an APTonCD disk to install my packages.
[12:18] <jamil_1> is it possible to disable package upgrades ?
[12:18] <gulzar> apwbdjp: Ok
[12:19] <Tyrope> I've been thinking about my 'broken' CD, Is there a way to mp5 checksum a burned CD?
[12:19] <Tyrope> md5*
[12:19] <Keychar> Tyrope: md5sum /dev/cdrom
[12:19] <jrib> Tyrope: you said you did that
[12:19] <Tyrope> jrib: I md5's the iso
[12:20] <Tyrope> never the burned disk.
[12:20] <jrib> Tyrope: yes, and then I asked you about the burned disk...
[12:20] <Tyrope> Keychar: now on Win7? :P
[12:20] <Tyrope> jrib: ah.
[12:20] <Keychar> Tyrope: find md5sum binary on the web
[12:20] <Keychar> oh, wait, no
[12:20] <Keychar> too bad
[12:20] <jrib> Tyrope: you said you ran the verification program on the cd
[12:20] <g0th> re
[12:20] <g0th> It didn't work for the new user
[12:20] <g0th> still everything kde related is frozen
[12:21] <g0th> e.g. the desktop activity thing is also frozen
[12:21] <g0th> anyone? What's going on???
[12:22] <g0th> I did what you asked me to do
[12:23] <g0th> is it possible to switch to ubuntu from kubuntu?
[12:23] <theadmin> g0th: Yeah, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <g0th> that's all?
[12:23] <g0th> this will remove all kubuntu stuff and install all ubuntu stuff?
[12:24] <theadmin> g0th: That will only install Ubuntu stuff
[12:24] <g0th> how do I remove the kde stuff?
[12:24] <theadmin> g0th: You will have to hunt down every KDE package yourself and remove them
[12:24] <g0th> omg
[12:24] <g0th> I don't know them
[12:24] <g0th> what about kdm etc?
[12:24] <g0th> I don't want to have half ubuntu/half kubuntu system
[12:24] <g0th> this would be even worse
[12:24] <theadmin> g0th: It will switch you to lightdm once Ubuntu desktop is installed
[12:25] <dr_willis> I alwyas have kde,gnome, lxde on my system.. because differnt users want to use differnt desktops..
[12:25] <dr_willis> odd that kde is not working for you. You might want to ask about it in #kubuntu
[12:25] <dr_willis> Im not sure if the Puregnome factoid is accurate any more
[12:26] <dr_willis> !puregnome
[12:26] <theadmin> dr_willis: Doubt it, but...
[12:26] <g0th> I have two ubuntu-desktop
[12:26] <g0th> dr_willis: I did
[12:26] <g0th> it is hgpeless there
[12:26] <g0th> nobody ever answers
[12:27] <theadmin> g0th: Well, you can do this "sudo tasksel remove kubuntu-desktop" to remove all the standard Kubuntu packages, but you'll need to install tasksel first :D
[12:27] <g0th> ok
[12:27] <g0th> thanks
[12:27] <g0th> I have two ubuntu-desktop packages, and the packages are conflicting with each other
[12:27] <xbmc> hello anybody knows witch are the play/pause rewind and forward commands??
[12:27] <g0th> I upload my sources.list
[12:27] <g0th> maybe it is fucked up
[12:28] <Tyrope> [1320.36] <jrib> Tyrope: you said you ran the verification program on the cd <- yes I did.
[12:28] <Tyrope> is that a md5 check?
[12:29] <jrib> Tyrope: yes
[12:30] <Tyrope> Oh, in that case nvm.
[12:30] <Tyrope> Another plan foiled.
[12:30] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/N7Hmp1jD
[12:30] <moose-machine> hi. i'm using gnome 2 on maverick and my application switching with Alt-Tab is not working. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thx.
[12:30] <g0th> is there a problem somewhere with my sources.list
[12:30] <bonhoffer> is there and 11.01 shortcut to minimize all windows or show the desktop?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: do you use compiz (desktop effects)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: SuperL + D
[12:31] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: yes i do.
[12:31] <jrib> Tyrope: burning at slower speeds seems to work sometimes for some reason (2-4x).  Otherwise, you are probably affected by some bug; you should file a bug about it if one does not yet exist and use the alternate cd to install
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: then run:  ccsm   and you can set it up there
[12:31] <Tyrope> jrib: In the default windows 7 burning method, how does one set speed?
[12:31] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, sorry super + d doesn't do it
[12:31] <moose-machine> ok. i will check that. thank you very much, actionparsnip. :)
[12:31] <g0th> I can't get rid of the new packages
[12:31] <g0th> how do I do that?
[12:31] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, is superL different than my windows key?
[12:31] <g0th> in aptitude
[12:32] <strixbg> Tyrope: you can't
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: same difference
[12:32] <g0th> pressing "f" works temporarly
[12:32] <wo> 软件中心打不开了
[12:32] <g0th> even as root
[12:32] <g0th> and I have two ubuntu-desktop packages
[12:32] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, I wonder why it doesn't work
[12:33] <g0th> same versions but conflicting packages
[12:33] <g0th> wth is going on???
[12:33] <moose-machine> actionparsnip: working now. yay! thx very much.
[12:33] <bonhoffer> it opens the launcher and types "d" ActionParsnip
[12:33] <g0th> when I select them I get internal error messages on top of aptitude
[12:33] <Tyrope> strixbg: thx.
[12:33] <g0th> it isn't supposed to show this kind of messages "on top" of aptitude but behind
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Tyrope: use InfraRecorder or cdburnerxp
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: np man
[12:34] <Jeff_> jeff262
[12:34] <g0th> it is unuseable
[12:34] <bonhoffer> ActionParsnip, it is ctl+alt+d
[12:34] <g0th> is there nobody who can help?
[12:35] <g0th> I am willing to switch to ubuntu
[12:35] <g0th> but everything seems just fucekd up
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> g0th: close aptitude and run:  sudo apt-get -f install    may help
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: you should be able to change that in ccsm too
[12:36] <g0th> its trying to install gimp-plugin-registry
[12:36] <thoidingjam> x
[12:36] <g0th> even though I told him 100 times that I dont want it
[12:36] <g0th> it caused some conflicts
[12:36] <dr_willis> remove the package then?
[12:36] <g0th> not working
[12:36] <g0th> it will try to install it again
[12:36] <g0th> it is removed
[12:37] <dr_willis> remove the stuff thats depending on it.
[12:37] <g0th> but he tries to install it every  time
[12:37] <g0th> nothing does
[12:37] <g0th> it is not causing any conflicts
[12:37] <dr_willis> !info  gimp-plugin-registry
[12:37] <MeMyself> is it possible that copying with dd copies the bad sectors and marks them as broken?
[12:37] <dr_willis> remove anything having todo with gimp perhaps.
[12:37] <g0th> hmpf
[12:37] <g0th> I need gimp but ok
[12:38] <g0th> do you think this is causeing _all_ my issues?
[12:38] <g0th> lol
[12:38] <dr_willis> MeMyself:  it would try to copy them, but not sure if it would mark them
[12:38] <g0th> I will still try though
[12:38] <dr_willis> g0th:  no idea. one step at a time.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> MeMyself: you can use ddrescue and you will get an image with the good and bad but the data will be off the bad drive
[12:39] <g0th> I think it will be faster if I reinstall my whole system
[12:39] <g0th> the problem is
[12:40] <g0th> where do I put all my backup
[12:40] <g0th> since my ready nas is broken
[12:40] <g0th> it will take weeks
[12:40] <guilhermeba> Anyone speaks Portuguese?
[12:40] <jrib> !pt | guilhermeba
[12:41] <MeMyself> dr_willis: I have bought a new hard drive because my old one is nearly broken so my question is if dd copying has copied a bad sector and marked the sector on the new hard drive broken or is it that the new hard drive is really broken
[12:41] <g0th> it is removeing about 70 packages now
[12:41] <g0th> because of all the gimp dependencies
[12:41] <dr_willis> MeMyself:  to clone a faulty hd to a new one. you should be using ddrescue and not dd.
[12:41] <pksadiq> g0th: using synaptic? then try settings > preferences > untick "consider recommended packages as dependencies"
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> g0th: is that gimp from the ubuntu repos?
[12:42] <g0th> I use aptitude
[12:42] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, I don't think a sector get marked broken unless it really is.
[12:42] <g0th> I dont know
[12:42] <MeMyself> dr_willis: thank you
[12:42] <dr_willis> MeMyself:  apwbdjp  i think that also.
[12:42] <g0th> I seem to have two repositories at the same time
[12:42] <g0th> I already posted my sources.list
[12:42] <g0th> nobody commented
[12:42] <g0th> it still tries to install gimp-plugin-registry
[12:43] <g0th> even though I removed all gimp related stuff
[12:43] <blahlbahlbah> does anyone know if gnome 2 is being packaged for ubuntu 11.10?
[12:43] <g0th> arg
[12:44] <blahlbahlbah> i cannot find any repos online
[12:44] <g0th> now my system is fucked up
[12:44] <g0th> because of you
[12:44] <FloodBot1> g0th: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:44] <Gentoo64> blahlbahlbah, it comes with gnome 3
[12:44] <dr_willis> blahlbahlbah:  theres some forks of it.
[12:44] <g0th> I have like 70 missing packages
[12:44] <pksadiq> g0th: try sudo apt-get install <your package name> --no-install-recommends
[12:44] <dr_willis> !attitude
[12:44] <g0th> what package?
[12:44] <theadmin> !find mgse
[12:44] <blahlbahlbah> classic menu?
[12:44] <theadmin> :(
[12:44] <dr_willis> blahlbahlbah:  thers classic-like menu indicator applets for unity and gnome-shell
[12:44] <Gentoo64> blahlbahlbah, the easiest way would be to try fallback mode
[12:44] <Gentoo64> but its not exactly like gnome2
[12:45] <dr_willis> blahlbahlbah:  i find it best to ignore the whole fallbackmode stuff. and tweak unity or gnome shell how you like.
[12:45] <blahlbahlbah> so ACTUAL gnome2 is not being packaged by anyone as it is deprecated</
[12:45] <dr_willis> gnome2 is dead...
[12:45] <Gentoo64> yeah
[12:45] <dr_willis> :)
[12:45] <MeMyself> dr_willis: okay so it seems that the new hard drive has relly got a bad sector i can´t resize it with gparted i tried chkdsk /r/f and gparted again but it still says bad sector
[12:45] <dr_willis> time to bury it and move on.
[12:45] <xuser1> yes g 2 is dead
[12:45] <pksadiq> g0th: I hope you are trying to install gimp, isn't it?(I was late sorry ;) )
[12:45] <theadmin> I suggest everyone just does what sir Torvalds did and move to XFCE :D
[12:46] <dr_willis> MeMyself: may want to use  the  hd makers checker tools on it - if the maker supplies one. but i bet it would be windows only.
[12:46] <blahlbahlbah> i am going to have to go to xfce indeed
[12:46] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, who says bad sectors? S.M.A.R.T?
[12:46] <blahlbahlbah> i gave e17, gnome3, gfallback and unity a try and boy oh boy
[12:46] <blahlbahlbah> okay interesting, thanks
[12:46] <dr_willis> I have unity and gnome shell tweaked decently well.. and both will improve greately over the next few months
[12:46] <lax> blahlbahlbah stick with unity !
[12:46] <blahlbahlbah> its not possible
[12:46] <lax> or go and come back !
[12:47] <g0th> pksadiq: I try to figure out why everything is broken
[12:47] <blahlbahlbah> the fundamential ideas underpinning unity are 100% wrong
[12:47] <dr_willis> Lubuntu is  what i use  on low end box's
[12:47] <lax> blahlbahlbah, care to elobrate ?
[12:47] <dr_willis> I tend to just install 'AWN' on unity and move on....
[12:47] <aruncn1> i am trying to delete all mp3 files in a folder.  I  issued the command, /*code{for i in `cat test.tmp`; do rm `echo "\"`find . -inum $i`\""`; done; /*code. But the file names have spaces. rm is unable to delete. Can i delete the files using inode ONLY?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> blahlbahlbah: try XFCE, KDE and LXDE :)
[12:47] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: no gparted does something with ntfsresize and tells me that there is at least one bad sector and to do a chkdsk /f /r and reboot twice
[12:47] <blahlbahlbah> unity could have been implemented as a helper app on top of any desktop
[12:47] <blahlbahlbah> there was no need to reinvent anything
[12:48] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: dr_willis: is there a good tool to check the entire hard drive before sending it back?
[12:49] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, check out what palipsest says about it. System -> Administration -> Disk Utility
[12:49] <blahlbahlbah> okay thanks for the info about gnome2.
[12:49] <dr_willis> MeMyself:  most hd manafacutres have a tool on their web site they want you to use befor submiting it for a return
[12:49] <dr_willis> 'could have been..' famous last words.. :)
[12:49] <g0th> pksadiq: e.g. everything kde related is frozen (panel, desktop activity) also the size of window maximization doesnt seem to care about panel, the desktop background is just black somewhere and the settings about how the desktop are arranged is wrong, the upload window for file upload will cause my whole system to become unstable (and it will never finnish loading) also I seem to have most packages in pair (my sources.list is: http://pastebi
[12:49]  * lax thinks why they have put banshee in 11.10 ?
[12:49] <g0th> that about sums it up
[12:50] <dr_willis> g0th:  your pastebin url got cut off.
[12:50] <Gentoo64> g0th, so nice and stable then?
[12:50] <aruncn1> can i delete a file using only inode?
[12:50] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: i´m currently not on that machine but i will take a look in diso utility
[12:50] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/N7Hmp1jD
[12:51] <dr_willis> aruncn1:  you may want to sersach for some find examples that look for spaces.. i think you are goind about this in too complex a way.
[12:51] <lobezno> hi there! i wonder if there is an program for linux ubuntu to ceck what my childrens do on pc?  thank you
[12:51] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, it gives a clear SMART report, bad sector count, and everything.
[12:52] <aruncn1> dr_willis: ok. I will check
[12:52] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: so if smart says the hard drive has got a bad sector than i can send my hard drive back?
[12:52] <g0th> why do I have every package twice?
[12:52] <g0th> also I can't get rid of the new packages
[12:52] <g0th> even if I press "f" as root
[12:52] <g0th> they will remain new
[12:53] <g0th> (after I quite and restart)
[12:53] <g0th> s/quite/quit/
[12:53] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, I guess so, yeah. A brand new drive should NOT have any bad sector.
[12:53] <haylo-> man g0th why don you just re-instsall that crazy
[12:54] <g0th> re-install what?
[12:54] <g0th> the whole system?
[12:54] <haylo-> ubuntu?
[12:54] <g0th> yeah
[12:54] <g0th> best solution
[12:54] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, if SMART says it's fine, then you might just have to zero the drive entirely, and repartition it.
[12:54] <haylo-> ya why not i do it like ten times a day
[12:54] <g0th> but I need 2TB space for backup
[12:54] <g0th> it will take weeks to reinstall everything
[12:54] <g0th> or months
[12:54] <xbmc_> helloo
[12:54] <g0th> but it is needed I guess
[12:54] <g0th> I didn't do anything crazy btw
[12:55] <haylo-> oh wow i understabd ow that sux
[12:55] <xbmc_> anybody knows how to config the mouse mediajeys?
[12:55] <g0th> it seems the kubuntu update process is slowly messing everything up
[12:55] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: I am not sure if dd copies the bad sectors too, and the "good" hard drive thinks that it´s broken
[12:55] <ndtv> Hi..Is there any way to get my Ubuntu as It was after a fresh Install ? I have messed up my ubuntu.
[12:55] <g0th> i.e. one is forced to make a whole system reinstall after some years
[12:55] <pksadiq> g0th: try : in system > administration > software sources , select other software and untick every thing there, and click close and reload
[12:55] <glioros> how to install rblsmtp  ?
[12:55] <haylo-> tdid you go kjst curious?ubunutu from normal ubuntu
[12:55] <g0th> I cannot click system
[12:56] <g0th> because my kde system is non-responsive
[12:56] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, if SMART says there are bad sectors, then they are MARKED as bad sectors. But what gparted tells you is that there's corrupted data on the ntfs partition, which could be caused by dd'ing from a faulty disk
[12:56] <g0th> how do I reload everything?
[12:56] <haylo-> t othink i would spread that work load out over multil oses in the future
[12:57] <pksadiq> g0th: I thought you have ubuntu classic, sorry
[12:57] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: so if I delete the content from the new hard drive and use dd_rescue it could work again?
[12:58] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, yep! There's a good chance! But before that just take a look at the SMART report to make sure your new disk is healthy.
[12:58] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: But windows should repair itself by chkdsk /f /r or not?
[12:58] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, can't be too cautious.
[12:58] <glioros> telnet is refusing connection
[12:58] <glioros> why ?
[12:58] <dr_willis> MeMyself:  dd_rescue and ddrescue are 2 differnt tools.. :)
[12:58] <g0th> I hate ubuntu right now :(
[12:58] <MeMyself> o_O whats the difference?
[12:59] <dr_willis> MeMyself:  made by differnt people.
[12:59] <haylo-> gOth you should be able to find a terminal listing command that can rearrange your files and manipulate them in different ways
[12:59] <apwbdjp> I didn't know that either ^^
[12:59] <dr_willis> !info ddrescue
[12:59] <g0th> i get all kind of hints
[12:59] <g0th> what to do
[12:59] <MeMyself> dr_willis what is more common?
[12:59] <dr_willis> MeMyself:  i think ddrescue is
[12:59] <g0th> then I follow them (even though they cause a huge messup)
[12:59] <dr_willis> and be sure to use a log file when using ddrescue like its docs say
[12:59] <g0th> and after I did what was asked I don't get any followup help
[13:00] <ikonia> g0th: stop complaining please, work with people to help you, moaning about it won't encourage people to help you
[13:00] <g0th> haylo-: will you help me once I achieved the whole removal of software sources?
[13:00] <g0th> yeah I understand
[13:00] <apwbdjp> dr_willis, funny, the "ddrescue" package contains dd_rescue. And the gddrescue package contains ddrescue ^^
[13:00] <g0th> I am grateful
[13:00] <g0th> I just want to ask before I do this
[13:00] <dr_willis> apwbdjp:  could hbe they merged.
[13:00] <MeMyself> dr_willis: ok
[13:00] <g0th> because it will probably again be a pain in the ass to do it
[13:00] <ikonia> g0th: what do you want to do ?
[13:00] <g0th> 13:49 < g0th> pksadiq: e.g. everything kde related is frozen (panel, desktop activity) also the size of window maximization doesnt seem to care about panel, the desktop background is just black somewhere and the settings about how the desktop are arranged is wrong, the upload window for file upload will cause my
[13:00] <g0th>  whole system to becom unstable (and it will never finnish loading) also I seem to haove most packages in pair (my sources.list is: http://pastebin.com/N7Hmp1jD,aptitude always tries to install gimp-plugin-registry no matter what I do, I have several sound issues with pulseaudio (but never mind that),  the error messages from apt are shown on top of aptitude (that shouldn't happen)
[13:01] <g0th> so the suggestion was to uncomment all other sources and "reload everythign"
[13:01] <dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/s/ddrescue/ddrescue.html is what i use/follow MeMyself  - it let me recover 99+% from a faulty 1tb hd once.. took over a week.. but it worked.
[13:01] <MeMyself> dr_willis: nice
[13:01] <ikonia> g0th: why is your sourcs.list like that
[13:01] <ikonia> g0th: what has happened to cause this ?
[13:02] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, chkdsk would have trouble repairing dd'ed datas. ddrescue'ed on the other hand are a bit more complete, so it'll be repairable by chkdsk
[13:02] <g0th> what do you mean?
[13:02] <ikonia> g0th: you have the same lines more than one
[13:02] <ikonia> oce
[13:02] <ikonia> once
[13:02] <malteee> Where can I find an German IRC Ubuntu Help Chat?
[13:02] <g0th> which one?
[13:02] <ikonia> malteee: #ubuntu-de
[13:02] <apwbdjp> !german | malteee
[13:02] <malteee> thanks
[13:02] <ikonia> g0th: sorry, I'm reading the wrong yurl
[13:02] <g0th> most of it was cause by the kubuntu update process
[13:03] <ikonia> url
[13:03] <wisper> can anybody help me with adding default repositaries?
[13:03] <ikonia> wisper: they are already added if they are default
[13:03] <dr_willis> logical answer is logical. :)
[13:03] <ikonia> g0th: what's happened to the instability
[13:03] <wisper> the probl;em is that i have installed ubuntu 5 and there are no useful rep's
[13:03] <MeMyself> apwbdjp: dr_willis: ok thank you for you help i will look at smart if smart shows that there is an error i will send it back if not i will try ddrescue and not dd_rescue
[13:03] <g0th> I have no idea
[13:04] <g0th> the easiest solution would be to reinstall the whole ubuntu
[13:04] <dr_willis> wisper:  5?
[13:04] <ikonia> wisper: becuase ubuntu 5 is end of life and "dead"
[13:04] <ikonia> g0th: ok, have you considered doing that ?
[13:04] <g0th> but even this is not so easy for me at the moment
[13:04] <g0th> removing everythign?
[13:04] <apwbdjp> MeMyself, Nice then! You're welcome!
[13:04] <ikonia> g0th: then do it when it is easy
[13:04] <g0th> I am not sure what I should leave on and what not
[13:04] <rocker> da
[13:04] <CobraKhan007> g0th, instalbily started after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[13:04] <wisper> but it would be possible to updeate it to the latest version
[13:05] <ikonia> wisper: not from 5 no
[13:05] <g0th> I was told to use system -> package management etc but I don't know hwo to do that
[13:05] <dr_willis> wisper:  updateing from 5.x to 11.10 would take... ages...
[13:05] <ikonia> wisper: you will need to do a clean install
[13:05] <ikonia> g0th: why do you want th epackage manager
[13:05] <apwbdjp> g0th, btw.. about reinstalling everything.. do you have a separate /home partition?
[13:05] <g0th> I would say the system became unstable after the oneiric system upgrade
[13:05] <g0th> yes
[13:05] <ikonia> g0th: what do you want to change ?
[13:05] <wisper> i have ages :)
[13:05] <ikonia> wisper: it's not possible
[13:05] <apwbdjp> g0th, then what do you have to back up?
[13:05] <dr_willis> wisper:   be faster to download a new iso and clean install.
[13:06] <g0th> ikonia: the most urgent issue is that my kde system is non responsive
[13:06] <ikonia> dr_willis: it's also not possible to go from 5
[13:06] <Driiper> Hello everyone!
[13:06] <wisper> iit is possible i need onle to add rep's
[13:06] <g0th> my /home mostly
[13:06] <ikonia> g0th: I understand that - what have you done to debug it ?
[13:06] <g0th> about 500GB of stuff in /usr/local/
[13:06] <g0th> a lot of /etc settings
[13:06] <ikonia> wisper: it is NOT possible to upgrade
[13:06] <ikonia> g0th: ubuntu does not install anything in /usr/local
[13:06] <ikonia> g0th: what's in /usr/local ?
[13:06] <g0th> my own installed stuff
[13:06] <CobraKhan007> g0th, me too, random screen freezes are not nice. Ctrl+Alt+Fx resultes in black screen with mouse cursor.
[13:07] <wisper> ikonia, i had installed gentoo, what helps me to understand - it is possible)
[13:07] <apwbdjp> g0th, which is already on a separate partition. So just leave that untouched, backup the few other things, and reinstall
[13:07] <g0th> like matlab or mathematica
[13:07] <ikonia> wisper: you're not using gentoo, so I'll again say it, it is not possible to upgrade form Ubuntu 5 to Ubuntu 11
[13:07] <wisper> just give me apt-line with newest reps plz
[13:07] <g0th> ok
[13:07] <Driiper> I have a question regarding GRUB bootloader. I just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and now i get a error thats saying Error: fd0 read error. I do not have a floppy drive installed so i kinda want this check deactivated. do anyone know how?
[13:07] <g0th> hmm
[13:07] <g0th> but still around 1TB
[13:07] <dr_willis> !eol | wisper
[13:07] <ikonia> wisper: no, it is not possible
[13:07] <g0th> but most of it I can reinstall I guess
[13:07] <g0th>  so maybe it is possible somehow
[13:08] <g0th> if I burn it on dvds or so
[13:08] <ikonia> g0th: try to keep away from PPA's until you have confiemd your system is stable
[13:08] <wisper> it's possible
[13:08] <g0th> all right
[13:08] <ikonia> wisper: I'll say it one more time, then ignore you. It is NOT possible
[13:08] <g0th> I try to reinstall everything
[13:08] <g0th> what do I need to do with my /home?
[13:08] <g0th> it is encrypted
[13:08] <ikonia> g0th: ughh, why ?
[13:08] <ikonia> why do you need it encypted
[13:08] <ikonia> is there classified documentes on there
[13:08] <g0th> I selected this at the beginning
[13:09] <wisper> ok. could u just give me apt line with latest reps?
[13:09] <ikonia> wisper: no
[13:09] <g0th> can I "unencrypt" it?
[13:09] <g0th> if I just reinstall and mount home
[13:09] <ikonia> g0th: not really, you need to re-create it unencypted
[13:09] <g0th> everything will be encrypted and the "new" ubuntu will not know how to unencrypt
[13:09] <Driiper> anyone know how to fix the "Error: fd0 read error.
[13:09] <g0th> huh?
[13:09] <dr_willis> Driiper:  you have a floppy drive?
[13:10] <ikonia> Driiper: floppy drive warning, ignore it
[13:10] <g0th> how do I do that?
[13:10] <g0th> that's not possible
[13:10] <apwbdjp> g0th, the encryption key is in your ubuntu keychain, save that somewhere before reinstalling
[13:10] <Driiper> i do not have a floppy drive.
[13:10] <CobraKhan007> g0th, copy it to a unencryped partition should do it.
[13:10] <g0th> no space for that
[13:10] <g0th> it is like 1-2 TB
[13:10] <ikonia> g0th: this is why you need to think about the options you do
[13:11] <Driiper> I'm not sure, but i think this message stops the booting at makes it stop at the GRUB bootloader (where you choose to boot up Normal or Recovery mode)
[13:11] <g0th> I think about my options right now
[13:11] <ikonia> g0th: yes, but it's late now
[13:11] <g0th> if I just followed your advice (and forgot about the encryption) I would have lost everything
[13:11] <ikonia> g0th: what ?
[13:12] <haylo-> g0th leave the ubuntu peeps alone- you need to be able to back up your system and then make changes
[13:12] <g0th> so you are saying that the encrypted home directory cannot be saved for a system reinstall without copying everything somewhere else first?
[13:12] <apwbdjp> g0th, did you find your encryption key in the keychain manager?
[13:13] <ikonia> g0th: I am saying you cannot unencypt it, however someone did give you the option of backing up the key
[13:13] <g0th> I dont find the keycahin manager
[13:13] <ikonia> g0th: you have made a very bad bed for yourself
[13:13] <haylo-> If you had that backed up like in windows you wouldnt have all the spaceon your drive it would be backed up
[13:13] <apwbdjp> g0th, Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption keys
[13:13] <g0th> I backed up everything
[13:13] <pksadiq> in ubuntu 10.04 I can see my password at applications > accessories > passwords and encri... > double click password > double click Unlock password... .... that doesn't even ask me for password, and instead if I tick the "show password" option , It shows me the password, I'm afraid this is not good. is the same happening in 11.10 too?
[13:13] <g0th> but my ready nas is broken
[13:13] <g0th> it will return in about 4 weeks
[13:14] <raven> how to run an AVM FritzCard classic isdn (ISA)?
[13:14] <g0th> apwbdjp: remember my kde desktop is non responsive
[13:14] <Driiper> Is it possible to have virtual machines on Ubuntu without having a GUI?
[13:14] <dr_willis> Driiper:  i belive vbox and vmware and qemu can all do that server only.
[13:14] <bonhoffer> is there a shortcut to traverse tabs in terminal?
[13:14] <Driiper> cool! thanks
[13:14] <bonhoffer> got it
[13:15] <CobraKhan007> g0th, does Ctrl+Alt+F1 combo work?
[13:15] <apwbdjp> pksadiq, hum.. are you root or something? It should ask for password..
[13:15] <g0th> yes
[13:15] <g0th> I can also use my desktop
[13:15] <g0th> just nothing kde related
[13:15] <ikonia> your desktop IS kde
[13:15] <g0th> I mean nothing from the panel and no activities etc
[13:15] <pksadiq> apwbdjp: I'm not root, just a user , but still It doesn't asks for passwords !
[13:16] <CobraKhan007> then you can reboot the system and use another wm for emergency popuse.
[13:16] <g0th> the window manager is not the problem
[13:16] <g0th> it works just fine
[13:17] <CobraKhan007> g0th, i got the same problem. with gnome, only mouse cursor works.
[13:17] <g0th> well keyboard works for me too
[13:17] <g0th> mostly the kde panel is not working
[13:17] <devish_> HI
[13:17] <g0th> and firefox upload window
[13:17] <g0th> (and activities but I dont use them anyway)
[13:17] <gebbione> hi all, how to get skype on 11.10? the deb from skype or the sources in the software centre dont work for me
[13:17] <CobraKhan007> g0th, when i use Ctrl+Alt+F1 and then Ctrl+Alt+F7 i get black screen with only cursor
[13:18] <g0th> works for me
[13:18] <g0th> so how do I backup my /home
[13:18] <g0th> so that I can reload it later?
[13:18] <ikonia> your home directory is your backup
[13:18] <ikonia> you just don't format it at install time
[13:18] <g0th> yeah ok
[13:19] <ikonia> you said you have no space to back it up anywhere else
[13:19] <CobraKhan007> try another wm like gnome at login and backup the encryption key from keymanager.
[13:19] <g0th> but I need to use the encryption somehow
[13:19] <g0th> Cobra: surely not
[13:19] <ikonia> CobraKhan007: that is a good suggestion
[13:19] <g0th> no it is not
[13:19] <ikonia> yes, it IS
[13:19] <g0th> I already had this discussion
[13:19] <g0th> it is completely silly
[13:19] <ikonia> you could install something like lxde to get a working desktop
[13:19] <g0th> do you really want me to argue about it
[13:20] <g0th> I don't even know where to start
[13:20] <g0th> so many things
[13:20] <ikonia> no, because I know what I'm talking about, and you don't so it's pointless to argue with you
[13:20] <g0th> first of, I cannot install gnoem
[13:20] <CobraKhan007> I Dont use encryption, cause this happens to often to me. got also terra bytes of crap backedup.
[13:20] <g0th> because apt is broken
[13:20] <g0th> so I first need to fix that
[13:20] <ikonia> g0th: how is apt broken ?
[13:20] <g0th> and that's just the first issue
[13:20] <ikonia> how is apt broken
[13:20] <dr_willis> I have redundant 3TB usb hds  for backups., :)
[13:20] <g0th> I already discussed this before
[13:20] <g0th> that is why everyone came to the conclusion to just reinstall everything
[13:20] <ikonia> g0th: I can't help you if you want discuss / give information
[13:21] <pksadiq> please anybody try this( if on 11.10) open Passwords and Encryption Keys > in passwords tab double click on "Passwords: login" > Unlock password for... now click on password and click "show password" { are these options available in 11.10? and if so isn't this insecure? }
[13:21] <g0th> and now you suggest I first fix all my problems and _then_ reinstall everything
[13:21] <ikonia> g0th: yes, but you can't re-install at the moment, hence why we are trying to get you to a point where we can
[13:21] <ikonia> g0th: tell you what - help yourself, fix it yourself,
[13:21] <g0th> isnt it possible to do start the necessary configuration program without a menu?
[13:21] <ikonia> but stop asking for help and then say you don't want to do it
[13:21] <g0th> isnt there a command to invoke the keychain stuff?
[13:21] <ikonia> g0th: good luck
[13:21] <CobraKhan007> g0th did not get that you have no gnome wm installed. assumed it was installed by default.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> g0th: run:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install nano     what is output? use a pastebin to host the text
[13:21] <apwbdjp> g0th, do you see a folder ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ ?
[13:21] <Error404NotFound> When i run 'update-grub' i get lots of 'Ignoring non-Xen Kernel on Xen domU host:', i have set IndomU to false in grub.conf and menu.lst in /boot/grub/
[13:22] <g0th> I use kde
[13:22] <apwbdjp> g0th, I use lxde and yet I have it
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> apwbdjp: lxde is built using GTK
[13:23] <g0th> the folder is there but empty
[13:23] <CobraKhan007> lolz also installed 4 or 5 wm managers by default when i was using suse
[13:24] <g0th> ActionParsnip: that works just fine
[13:24] <jiohdi> Error404NotFound, are you aware that any changes made to /boot/grub/ grub files are ignored/
[13:24] <g0th> ok back to the topic
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> g0th: ok then apt isn't broken. If nano just reinstalled without a hitch then your packages are in order
[13:24] <g0th> how?
[13:24] <g0th> it is borken
[13:25] <g0th> I cannot install ubuntu-desktop eg.
[13:25] <ikonia> how can it be brokn
[13:25] <g0th> most packages come in pair
[13:25] <g0th> I can't forget the new packages
[13:25] <ikonia> packages don't come in paris
[13:25] <g0th> and it always tries to install gimp-plugin-registry
[13:25] <Error404NotFound> jiohdi: ok and where should these be made for grub v0.97?
[13:25] <solofight> people, am preparing an installation manual for which i need to take screen shots of the right click made on displayed packages menu items in synaptic. Am using shutter now - but it lacks this feature. How can i proceed ?
[13:25] <ikonia> stop making up what you think is the problem, and explain THE problem
[13:25] <g0th> ikonia: most pacakges appear twice in aptitude
[13:25] <jiohdi> Error404NotFound, do you have grub or grub2?
[13:25] <solofight> ikonia, @ me ?
[13:25] <ikonia> g0th: forget aptitude for the moment, you said apt was boke
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> g0th: ok then run:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop    and pastebin the output please
[13:26] <ikonia> solofight: ?
[13:26] <g0th> and one package usually forces the other package to be broken
[13:26] <Error404NotFound> jiohdi: just grub, as you see its v0.97
[13:26] <solofight> stop making up what you think is the problem, and explain THE problem @ me ? ikonia
[13:26] <ikonia> g0th: possible your PPA's have broken the dependencies
[13:26] <ikonia> solofight: no
[13:26] <jiohdi> Error404NotFound, oh, sorry, then you are in the right place but update-grub is for grub2, no?
[13:26] <solofight> ikonia, ok you know of a solution for this ?
[13:26] <g0th> around 500 pacakges to be installed?
[13:26] <solofight> am preparing an installation manual for which i need to take screen shots of the right click made on displayed packages menu items in synaptic. Am using shutter now - but it lacks this feature. How can i proceed ?
[13:26] <Error404NotFound> jiohdi: hmmm, what was for grub? grub-update?
[13:26] <ikonia> solofight: I've not even read your issue
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> g0th: yes its the full DE with all the default apps
[13:27] <g0th> ActionParsnip: you want me to install 500 packages?
[13:27] <g0th> ok
[13:27] <g0th> seems apt works
[13:27] <jiohdi> Error404NotFound, grub as far as I recall just allowed you to change the file and then you rebooted
[13:27] <g0th> but aptitude couldn't solve the conflicts
[13:27] <g0th> this will take a while
[13:28] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/N7Hmp1jD
[13:28] <Paul-Emile> hai
[13:28] <dr_willis> unusual for  aptitude to fail and apt work. or visa-versa.
[13:28] <g0th> that's my sources.list
[13:28] <Paul-Emile> can haz stdio
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> g0th: was it initially a desktop OS or did you install server to then install the DE?
[13:28] <g0th> it was originally kubuntu
[13:28] <g0th> desktop
[13:29] <g0th> I upgraded around 4 times
[13:29] <g0th> and usually each distribution upgrade there was a slight problem
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> g0th: you said you were having issues installing gimp?
[13:29] <g0th> gimp-plugin-registry
[13:29] <g0th> it fails to install
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> g0th: you are trying to tuse the PPA to get the package?
[13:30] <g0th> I removed it but everytime apt tries to install it again
[13:30] <g0th> yes for gimp
[13:30] <jasonbourne__> need some help with wireless on Ubuntu 11.10 if anyone has a few minutes...
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> g0th: then its not supported here, we cannot support 3rd party repos
[13:30] <g0th> yes I understand
[13:30] <g0th> but it is not related to the kde issue
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> g0th: also the ubuntu repos have a newer version than that ppa
[13:30] <ikonia> g0th: how do you know ?
[13:31] <ikonia> g0th: how do you know the dependencies it uses are not a conflict with KDE ?
[13:31] <g0th> ikonia: you are just flaming right now
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> g0th: I suggest you comment out the PPAs you added to make life a lot easier
[13:31] <g0th> yes
[13:31] <g0th> which ones?
[13:31] <g0th> should I leave?
[13:31] <ikonia> g0th: I'm not, I'm telling you to stop saying what is/is not the problem when you don't know, and just stick to the facts
[13:32] <g0th> ikonia: ok, but I try to solve a problem here, if you try to do the same that's good
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> g0th: all the lines from line 67 down in your pastebin
[13:32] <JoeSomebody> hi, something is different on "run", how do you run something now? alt-f2 lets me type in a command but not run it
[13:32] <jasonbourne__> wireless help anyone??
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> jasonbourne__: try some details...
[13:32] <jorel-pc> what's wrong with wireless????
[13:32] <g0th> first I will install ubuntu-desktop
[13:32] <ikonia> g0th: I was trying to help you - that's why I'm telling you to stick to the facts, rather than what you "think" - eg: apt is broke ! - not it's not, the PPA's don't cause a problem...how do you know ?
[13:32] <g0th> should I use kdm or lightdm?
[13:32] <jasonbourne__> wireless was working when I was using Ubuntu 11.04 but when I upgraded to 11.10
[13:33] <jasonbourne__> it stopeed
[13:33] <jasonbourne__> *stopped
[13:33] <dr_willis> lightdm is the default in 11.10 g0th  for ubuntu
[13:33] <CobraKhan007> jasonbourne__, did the wireless use restricted drivers?
[13:33] <g0th> ikonia: the point is, if I try to get all the facts straight of everything I say it will take a year, it is almost impossible to say anything for 100% certainty, the importance is to address the issue at hand
[13:33] <g0th> ok
[13:33] <jasonbourne__> was using the drivers for HP 2200
[13:34] <jasonbourne__> Cobra
[13:34] <jiohdi> g0th, here is a suggestion: create a 2nd admin account with full rights... and that should create without these issues, then just change over and delete the current account... you can copy select hidden files for things like pidgin and such that have accts set up.
[13:34] <ikonia> g0th: ok - stop saying what you "think" is happening and stick to the facts of what "is" happening
[13:34] <g0th> I already tried to create a new user
[13:34] <g0th> the problems remained
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> jasonbourne__: ok then run: sudo lshw -C network     use the product line to find guides and/or bugs
[13:34] <CobraKhan007> jasonbourne__, did that use the restriced drivers for wireless if so you need to reinstall those
[13:34] <g0th> ikonia: I really try to do that without wasting too much time
[13:34] <JoeSomebody> how do you run something now? alt-f2 lets me type in a command but not run it
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> g0th: either is fine
[13:35] <jasonbourne__> not sure which how to figure out if they were restricted or not...
[13:35] <g0th> I now have a glimmer of hope that ubuntu-desktop will fix everything
[13:35] <jasonbourne__> ran that command, Cobra...
[13:35] <solofight> people, am preparing an installation manual for which i need to take screen shots of the right click made on displayed packages menu items in synaptic. Am using shutter now - but it lacks this feature. How can i proceed ?
[13:35] <jasonbourne__> what am I looking for??
[13:35] <g0th> I will take a shower until the download finnishes
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> jasonbourne__: the product line for the wifi
[13:36] <szal> Finnish downloads? ;)
[13:36] <g0th> thanks for the help, the help from last hour was really nice :)
[13:36] <jasonbourne__> got it...one second while I copy it out
[13:36] <g0th> bbl
[13:36] <Soul_Sample> ubuntu 11.10 bluetooth not working on dell inspiron. kernel module is loaded, it's a fresh installation, even though it says that bluetooth is enabled on the indicator, in the options it's still off and not working
[13:36] <haylo-> il take shower now il be back in a little bit
[13:36] <jorel-pc> i'm sorry i'm lost .......what's the wireless card what are you using???
[13:36] <jasonbourne__> PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico]
[13:37] <jasonbourne__> Intel Corp
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> jasonbourne__: is it unclaimed?
[13:37] <jasonbourne__> how would I kjonw??
[13:37] <JoeSomebody> how do you run something now? alt-f2 lets me type in a command but not run it
[13:37] <jasonbourne__> how do I find that out ActionParsnip??
[13:38] <Soul_Sample> JoeSomebody it actually requires you to press down once or twice to select the command. i'm not sure if that's the desired behaviour, but that's the only way it works for me
[13:38] <JoeSomebody> the "comnmnd" is greyed out
[13:38] <JoeSomebody> so ...
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> jasonbourne__: some text output...
[13:38] <JoeSomebody> mine is broke then?
[13:39] <jorel-pc> why u didn't try reinstall packages???
[13:39] <jasonbourne__> I have the output from command Cobra gave me
[13:39] <jasonbourne__> what line would tell me if it's unclaimed or not?
[13:39] <JoeSomebody> it was right after an install
[13:40] <jasonbourne__> unclaimed as in the IRQ it uses??
[13:40] <Soul_Sample> JoeSomebody how is it greyed out? that happens when you type something into the alt-f2 box?
[13:40] <jasonbourne__> physical ID: 5
[13:40] <jasonbourne__> logical name: eth1
[13:40] <JoeSomebody> i typre gconf-editor, and there is no way to run it
[13:40] <jasonbourne__> version: 05
[13:40] <jasonbourne__> width: 32 bits
[13:40] <Soul_Sample> JoeSomebody is gconf-editor installed?
[13:40] <jasonbourne__> clock: 33MHZ
[13:41] <ipong> hello all, i wanna ask you...do you ever try multiseat with laptop with other monitor, how it works??
[13:41] <JoeSomebody> it was right after an install, i ASSumed its built in?
[13:41] <dr_willis> ipong:  you want to know how well it works? or if its doable? or the mecnanics of how it functions?
[13:41] <Soul_Sample> JoeSomebody gconf-editor is no longer included by default
[13:41] <jorel-pc> iwconfig
[13:41] <dr_willis> !multiseat
[13:42] <JoeSomebody> ah-hah, giving new  ubuntu a test run, the first thing i used to do is gconf editor, and it was always installed already
[13:43] <ipong> dr_willis : how to setup...
[13:43] <Soul_Sample> JoeSomebody yap, they excluded it because most of the settings are now moved to dconf
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> jasonbourne__: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see access points?
[13:43] <JoeSomebody> what threw me was a greyed out icon, is that supposed to be like that?
[13:43] <dr_willis> ipong:  a  quick google search shows me this --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/74353/virtual-terminal-switching-with-a-multiseat-setup-and-lightdm
[13:43] <JoeSomebody> i am looking to move those 3 buttons :)
[13:43] <JoeSomebody> or is there a good reason to leave them on the left?
[13:44] <Soul_Sample> well, when you maximize an application those buttons get embedded into the main panel. if they were on the right they would get in the way of the indicators
[13:44] <dr_willis> ipong:  its a new feature added in 11.10/lightdm  - so its not that well documented yet  from what i gather.
[13:44] <dr_willis> Soul_Sample:  sounds like they should have put the indicators at the bottom right. :)
[13:44] <JoeSomebody> ok thanks i'll leave them on the left this time
[13:44] <dr_willis> oh wait.. thats sort of where gnome-shell has them.
[13:45] <roscarv> we dont actually see this many
[13:45] <ipong> dt_willis : i already done (ask mr. google) but i still confuse...the multiseat use one card or two if i using my notebook & other monitor??
[13:45] <Soul_Sample> dr_willis unity leaves a lot to be desired, but it's a WIP and actualy provides a pretty good desktop experience
[13:46] <ipong> dr_willis : i already done (ask mr. google) but i still confuse...the multiseat use one card or two if i using my notebook & other monitor??
[13:46] <dr_willis> ipong:  it can use any card that can handle 2 monitors.. OR theres special cards/hardware that let you handle a lot more from what i gather.
[13:46] <g0th> hmm
[13:46] <g0th> now the install process is frozen, I try to killall -9 apt because "ctrl + c " is not working
[13:46] <yuvaraj> hi guys can i intrd myself
[13:47] <roscarv> then try to end it
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> g0th: what is it stuck at?
[13:47] <bullgard4> How can I make that GNOME Shell 3.2 will automatically open a rxvt-unicode terminal when the user abc has logged in?
[13:47] <roscarv> Ctrl q
[13:47] <katsrc> hello
[13:48] <katsrc> how can i install additional video codecs?
[13:48] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  put a desktop file to it in their ~/.config/autostart/  directory
[13:48] <katsrc> along with the extra package?
[13:48] <dr_willis> katsrc:  install ubuntu-restricted-extras is one  package that includes most of them.
[13:48] <dr_willis> katsrc:  theres more at the medibuntu repository. but i havent needed those in ages.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> katsrc: there is also w32codecs from medibuntu repo (or w64codecs for 64bit OS)
[13:49] <katsrc> ok, great
[13:49] <katsrc> thanks
[13:50] <lotrpy> hello, I install a windows xp in ubuntu 11.10 with virtualbox, the display resolution of ubuntu itself is right(1600 * 900), but the guest os in virtualbox(windows xp) gives me a 1600*1200, it looks windows don't find right dirver for monitor and video driver, so how to install driver for this case, a windows in virtualbox in ubuntu?
[13:51] <yeats> lotrpy: have you installed the virtualbox additions?
[13:51] <anacrolix> does anyone know how to create add a .desktop shortcut to the favourites in unity?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> anacrolix: drag it across
[13:52] <yeats> anacrolix: open the program - left click the icon and select "Keep in Launcher"
[13:52] <dr_willis> anacrolix:  a link to a location? you can open up the file manager, and drag/drop a folder to the left side panel i belive..
[13:52] <anacrolix> from where? nautilus?
[13:52] <Soul_Sample> does anyone have any experience with bluetooth on ubuntu 11.10? it says it's disabled even though the module is loaded and everything should be working
[13:52] <lotrpy> yeats, I just installed Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.1.2-73507, is this extension pack the virtualbox additions?
[13:52] <yeats> lotrpy: not familiar with that
[13:53] <lotrpy> yeats, thanks for your help, let me search it then.
[13:53] <bullgard4> dr_willis: ~/.config/autostart/ does not exist.
[13:53] <Loptr> Does vmware server runs on ubuntu 11.10 64bit?
[13:53] <yeats> lotrpy: when XP is running - click Devices -> Install Guest Additions
[13:53] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  its default on every ubuntu install ive ever noticed.. make it i guess..
[13:53] <dr_willis> !autostart
[13:54] <anacrolix> ActionParsnip: it appears, but clicking it does nothing
[13:54] <anacrolix> yeats: if i launch it manually from the command line, it appears in the list. i click keep in launcher, but later invocations through this dont' work
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> anacrolix: put the .desktop in /usr/share/applications and it will appear in dash, you can then use it as you expect
[13:56] <lotrpy> yeats, thanks, letme try
[13:56] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Do you mean by "make it" to execute a 'abc@<nodename>:$ mkdir autostart' command?
[13:56] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  thats not the path to it.. the path is in the .config dir..
[13:57] <anacrolix> ActionParsnip: but i've built it with --prefix=$HOME/.local
[13:57] <yeats> anacrolix: try creating a launcher with alacarte (Main Menu)
[13:57] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  cd /home/yourusername/.config/autostart    and see if its there
[13:57] <anacrolix> the .desktop file is in ~/.local/share/applications
[13:57] <ooldirty> I need a tc guru. I have a machine with three IP's and want each IP to have an independent cap of xKbps. Do I need a tc filter for each IP?
[13:57] <utlztr> ayooo
[13:57] <utlztr> technology linuxology
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> anacrolix: wasn't aware of that folder, I always use /usr/share/applications
[13:58] <utlztr> guys id like to ask you something
[13:58] <bekks> utlztr: Then just ask :P
[13:58] <utlztr> how do you see directory through terminal?
[13:59] <dr_willis> I got links to a lot of these ~/.local/whatever  and .config dirs in my home. amkes them easier to ghet to. :0
[13:59] <dr_willis> utlztr:  bash basics.. 'ls'
[13:59] <dr_willis> !terminal | utlztr
[13:59] <bekks> utlztr: By using "ls -l" and looking out for directories.
[13:59] <utlztr> I LOVE YOU GUYS !! :D
[13:59] <utlztr> Thanks y'all
[14:00] <Klojum> use "ls -al" if you want the hidden files/folders as well
[14:00] <vooze> anyone using Maximus in gnome shell?? I followed this guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/05/how-to-remove-maximized-windows.html but when i open dconf-editor Maximus is on in apps.. Any ideas?
[14:00] <bullgard4> dr_willis: 'abc@<nodename>:~/.config$ ls -al' does not list a directory named 'autostart'.
[14:00] <ganimede> question. is there a g++ compile option to tell it that I dont want the parameters of a function to be pushed on the stack before the function is called?
[14:01] <utlztr> Klojum, thank you
[14:02] <lotrpy> yeats, it works, thanks.
[14:02] <ipong> hi all, how to know the gdm version??
[14:02] <dr_willis> bullgard4:   then make it..
[14:02] <bekks> bullgard4: A non-existing directory cannot be shown.
[14:02] <yeats> lotrpy: great!
[14:03] <bullgard4> dr_willis: But '<my admin username>@<nodename>:~/.config$ ls -al' does list a directory named 'autostart'.
[14:03] <dr_willis> bullgard4:   then make it.. ...........          what is the difficulty in making a directory?
[14:03] <milen8204> Hello all, Hoiw can I
[14:03] <bekks> bullgard4: Nopaste bothe approaches, so we can see all details.
[14:03] <bekks> -e
[14:04] <dr_willis> could be the dir gets made by  somthign  when the user first logs in.
[14:04] <Pavilliox> Anyone got any idea why PulseAudio isn't recognising either my internal or external microphone?
[14:04] <milen8204> Hello all, How can I modify my background to change the pictures
[14:05] <dr_willis> milen8204:  theres dozens of wallpaper changer tools out there.  you could even write your own script to do it how you wanted.
[14:05] <utlztr> which function does CD perform?
[14:05] <Pavilliox> utlztr: Change directory
[14:05] <dr_willis> utlztr:  are you going to go read some bash tutorials?
[14:05] <utlztr> dr_willis, I'd like to
[14:06] <milen8204> dr_willis, I have written a script http://pastebin.com/25KE5rg5 but can set it up on Ubuntu 11.10
[14:06] <dr_willis> utlztr:  http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php#escape
[14:06] <dr_willis> utlztr:  theres 1000's of bash tutorials and guides out there. :)
[14:07] <bekks> utlztr: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[14:08] <Pavilliox> Ubuntu isn't recognising my sound card. Anyone know why?
[14:08] <dr_willis> http://tiswww.case.edu/php/chet/bash/bashref.html
[14:08] <utlztr> This is the most helpful channel I've ever visited
[14:08] <dr_willis> :)
[14:08] <dr_willis> all im doingis pasting url's i found on delicious.com utlztr
[14:08] <dr_willis> people tend to tag the most usefull tutorials the most...
[14:09] <utlztr> :-)
[14:09] <utlztr> that's still cool
[14:09] <sinjax> hello! I'm installing ubuntu 11.04 on my asus eeebox attached to my TV. I'm having some issues. Firstly: Compiz. I  used compizconfig to add some settings for screen magnification
[14:09] <sinjax> these settings work if i go to a terminal and do a compiz --replace
[14:09] <sinjax> however, upon startup the settings are ignored, or not use
[14:09] <sinjax> d
[14:09] <sinjax> what is the right way to resolve this
[14:10] <dr_willis> sinjax:  it may be using unity2d by default. which is not using compiz
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> sinjax: add a startup item to run:  compiz --replace
[14:11] <sinjax> dr_willis: yes! in fact I chose unity2d because, well. the other option which is booted into by default is rather, strange?
[14:11] <sinjax> nothing seems to load, I am presented with a desktop and a menu but the icon menu on the left hand side isn't there
[14:12] <sinjax> nore are there menu options for loading programs, opening programs, or… well anything! in fact when in that mode to log off I have to hit ctrl+alt+del :D
[14:12] <sinjax> "what's that all about" :)
[14:13] <dr_willis> that explzins why compiz is not being used then
[14:13] <sinjax> heh yes it does, ok so i've logged in using the ubuntu option (as opposed to ubuntu2d)
[14:14] <sinjax> now I'm at that situation i just described, so, menu with "file edit view go bookmarks help"… and quite literally no other option :D
[14:14] <Squidy> hi.. I created a simple .deb.. But I'm in doubt on how to include that in a custom ISO of ubuntu to install that during the system installation... How I can do that?
[14:14] <Squidy> I'm using preseed
[14:14] <Squidy> May you help me?
[14:14] <andygraybeal> someone at work told me that ubuntu was mentioned in a sitcom "the big bang theory" i was like. no way, that is awesome.  i then told her that the ubuntu sticker is on Moss's workstation in The IT Crowd sitcom!   go ubuntu!!
[14:15] <sinjax> dr_willis: does my situation sound familiar at all?
[14:15] <dr_willis> sinjax:  try getting normal unity working.. then you can use all the ccsm stuff..
[14:16] <sinjax> it sorta feels like, the left icon menu (an integral part of unity i assume?) isn't loading
[14:16] <sinjax> dr_willis: that is the thing, it was working :D
[14:16] <dr_willis> sinjax:  try running 'unity --replace' from a terminal and see if it spits out errors
[14:16] <sinjax> heh thing is, from where I am right now, can't even open terminal! :D
[14:16] <dr_willis> theres ways to reset unity back to defaults.. SOME ccsm settings and unity can fight.
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> !remaster | Squidy
[14:17] <sinjax> i can open "bookmarks" so i suppose i should navigate to terminal, where is the terminal X11 application installed?
[14:17] <dr_willis> at console 'export DISPLAY=0.0'  then 'gnome-terminal' should make a terminal popup on the desktop sinjax .
[14:17] <dr_willis> or at the console do the export, then 'unity --replace'
[14:17] <sinjax> good call, ctrl+alt f1, then what you said, sec
[14:18] <sinjax> dr_willis: unity-panel-service no process found
[14:19] <skilz> Hey I have a problem, when I close my laptop lid, the screen turns off, it doesnt suspend, how do I enable suspend? Im running fluxbox if that helps.
[14:19] <kuchiku> anyone know how to change dns ip address permanently ?
[14:19] <fatal_ERROR777> Hello there, do you know why unity session loads incorrectly for me?
[14:20] <fatal_ERROR777> I am running ubuntu 11.10
[14:20] <fatal_ERROR777> amd64
[14:20] <kuchiku> i tried to search on google allllllllllllll solution wont work , either no such file exist or no such folder or it just wont work
[14:20] <kuchiku> why ubuntu do that ?
[14:21] <pfifo> kuchiku, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:21] <SeeIt> @kuchiku Open the file /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[14:22] <kuchiku> seeit i dont have dhclient.conf in dhcp3 folder
[14:22] <SeeIt> And the write 	supersede domain-name-servers x.x.x.x,y.y.y.y;
[14:22] <SeeIt> mhhh
[14:23] <SeeIt> Do you have anything dhc..something in your /etc
[14:23] <kuchiku> dhcp folder has that file
[14:24] <SeeIt> And what is in your /etc/network/interfaces
[14:25] <SeeIt> If you configure all your interfaces static you can change it right there
[14:25] <bekks> Or just set it in /etc/resolv.conf when using static IP addresses.
[14:25] <wolfi_> Hi. I'm not a linux user, but installed Ubuntu to an other disk than my primary HD, to update the firmware of the primary HD. I have now the update program in a folder on my Desktop but it is green  and I'm not able to start it. what shall I do ? The file rights is:-rwxr-xr-x
[14:26] <prower> hello :> in 11.10 i've noticed that i have very choppy sound in a number of things that worked fine previously...if i switch to libsdl1.2debian-pulse instead of -alsa they work fine, but there is a significant amount of lag between when a sound should play and when it actually does :< has anyone else seen this, or just know of a way i could fix the lag portion of the problem?
[14:26] <dr_willis> kuchiku:  personally i just set my router to use whatever dns i want..
[14:26] <kuchiku> see it how to change it to static
[14:26] <wolfi_> ... also showing the content of the folder with ls shows the file green.
[14:26] <dr_willis> kuchiku:  the static ip setting in the network manager works forme  also.
[14:27] <SeeIt> Usually in that file you see something like
[14:27] <dr_willis> wolfi_:  cd to where its at and use ./thecommandname
[14:27] <SeeIt> auto eth0
[14:27] <kuchiku> dr_willis it wont work on network manager that's why i remove it
[14:27] <dr_willis> kuchiku:  odd.. it works fine here.
[14:27] <bekks> wolfi_: Where are the instructions on how to use that file?
[14:27] <SeeIt> and then iface eth0 inet dhcp
[14:27] <bekks> wolfi_: And whats that filename?
[14:27] <wolfi_> dr_willis: i'm already in the right foler.
[14:27] <dr_willis> wolfi_:  then follow to step 2 of what i said...
[14:27] <wolfi_> the filename is fwupd and it's green.
[14:27] <jorel-pc> how can i get out the dock from unity????
[14:27] <jorel-pc> anybody
[14:28] <jorel-pc> knows
[14:28] <kuchiku> dr_willis cos i'm using the dsl-provider stuffs
[14:28] <bekks> kuchiku: You can edit the settings of the connections including DNS in the network manager.
[14:28] <dr_willis> jorel-pc:  clarify what you mean.,
[14:28] <pfifo> dr_willis, my router still adds itself as the first dns server, then googles DNS, my routers lookups are extremly slow. I have to modify the info dhcp gives me
[14:28] <SeeIt> change that to iface eth0 inet dhcp
[14:28] <bekks> wolfi_: And where are the instructions on how to use that file to update the firmware?
[14:28] <SeeIt> change that to iface eth0 inet static
[14:28] <dr_willis> pfifo:  i got my router set to use 8.8.8.8 as its primary.
[14:28] <g465> yes ubuntu 11.10
[14:28] <SeeIt> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[14:28] <pfifo> dr_willis, my router is low end
[14:29] <bekks> wolfi_: The filename is green because the access rights 755 are set.
[14:29] <jorel1012> i'm talking about the dock in ubuntu oneiric ocelot
[14:29] <jorel1012> 11.10
[14:29] <dr_willis> pfifo:  must be.. even my $30 router has the feature.
[14:29] <jorel1012> that stupid dock in the left side from the window
[14:29] <dr_willis> jorel1012:  and... talking about doing what exactly?
[14:29] <wolfi_> bekks: the insructions say execute 'fwupd /foo/bar'
[14:29] <bekks> wolfi_: I want a link to read the instructions on my own, please.
[14:30] <wolfi_> bekks: ok one minute ...
[14:30] <madadam1> does exist a way to save all the gnome menu tree?
[14:30] <jorel1012> i know what they come with unity but ilike the interface
[14:30] <dr_willis> jorel1012:  take some time clarify the question, and start from the beginning....
[14:31] <wolfi_> bekks: www.ocztechnology.com/files/ssd_tools/OCZ_Firmware_Update_Guide_8_12_2011_Linux_consumer_1.pdf
[14:32] <bekks> wolfi_: So just run: sudo ./fwupd /dev/yourdisk
[14:32] <g465> how can rotate desktop like cube
[14:32] <bekks> wolfi_: DONT run it as long as you have no backup. Create a backup of that disk before.
[14:32] <jorel1012> ok. i'm talking about the dock in unity from ubuntu 11.10. i would like to uninstall and install another dock as Mac OS
[14:32] <dr_willis> !cube
[14:32] <wolfi_> A Backup is done.
[14:33] <wolfi_> bekks: A Backup is done.
[14:33] <dr_willis> jorel1012:  you can just install awn or whatever dock and run it if you want. you really dont want to  'remove' the 'unity panel'
[14:33] <dr_willis> !dock
[14:33] <dr_willis> jorel1012:  the ccsm tool lets you tweak the panel settings also if you want.
[14:33] <bekks> wolfi_: Did you download the firmware update file itself, too? fwupd is just the executable to run the firmware update process.
[14:34] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[14:34] <usalabs> I'm running a web site using apache, there is no problem connecting to it from localhost, but before make it live and set my domain name to point to my IP address, I use my IP address in my browser, and all I get is 'connecting to [WAN IP], then it suddenly changes to 'connecting to [LAN IP], it shouldn't do that at all,,, anyone know why this is happening?
[14:34] <jorel1012> and chow can i get that
[14:34] <jorel1012> and how can i get that
[14:34] <bekks> usalabs: As your router ;)
[14:34] <wolfi_> bekks: yes. This executable downloads the firmware from internet.
[14:34] <dr_willis> jorel1012:  get what? the packages i mentioned are in the software center. read the bots factoids  for details.
[14:35] <jorel1012> i'm a new user
[14:35] <usalabs> bekks lan IP is the address of the web server,,, I have loopback enabled in router
[14:35] <bekks> wolfi_: So "no".
[14:35] <dr_willis> big icon in the panel.. called 'software center' i belive..
[14:35] <wolfi_> bekks: er ...yes
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:35] <bekks> usalabs: Thats why you are actually connecting to your physical LAN, and not to a WAN.
[14:36] <wolfi_> bekks: Maybe it's necessary to change some rights with 'chmod' ?? But I' don't know the syntax nor the right rights ...
[14:36] <bekks> wolfi_: No.
[14:36] <bekks> wolfi_: I already told you how to run that file.
[14:37] <wolfi_> uh,sorry - I didn't recognised it .... please agan :*(
[14:37] <bekks> 1112 153200 < bekks> wolfi_: So just run: sudo ./fwupd /dev/yourdisk
[14:37] <theborger> hey guys i just updated 10.04 and it reverted me back to alsamixer 1.0.22. i need 1.0.24.  when i do apt-get it says could not find package
[14:37] <wolfi_> ok :*)
[14:37] <theborger> sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[14:37] <theborger> Reading package lists... Done
[14:37] <theborger> Building dependency tree
[14:37] <theborger> Reading state information... Done
[14:37] <theborger> E: Couldn't find package linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-35-generic
[14:37] <FloodBot1> theborger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> theborger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure     shows how you can add a ppa to get the 1.0.24 version
[14:38] <usalabs> bekks using my WAN IP in the browser and loopback enabled, I should see my site home page, but for some reason, the WAN IP gets routed to my LAN IP, and shows it in the browser as my LAN IP, which shouldn't happen,,, even an outside connection first shows my WAN IP then changes to trying to connect to my LAN IP
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> theborger: just leave that package name out of the list :)
[14:39] <wolfi_> bekks: why is the ./ necessary ? I was in the right folder ?
[14:39] <bekks> usalabs: You cannot test an outside sourced connection being in your home LAN.
[14:39] <theborger> ActionParsnip: thanks
[14:39] <dr_willis> the current directory is not in the default 'path'
[14:39] <dr_willis> the current directory is not in the default 'path'  thats why wolfi_
[14:40] <theborger> ActionParsnip: still got some errors
[14:40] <theborger> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/DpD80ALr
[14:41] <g0th> hi
[14:41] <g0th> I am back
[14:42] <nwavrant> who knows how i can do to crash my ubuntu 10.11
[14:42] <nwavrant> ?
[14:42] <usalabs> bekks, that is what NAT loopback is for, I have spoken to a network specialist and he said as long as NAT loopback is enabled, even using a domain name inside the LAN can be used to test a server running behind a router, but he couldn't figure out why my WAN IP was being redirected from outside the router to my LAN IP
[14:42] <g0th> I just installed ubuntu-desktop, I got to choose between kdm and lightdm, I selected lightdm, when I restarted my system the graphical interface didn't start so I manually stopped lightdm and started kdm
[14:42] <g0th> any idea why lightdm is not working?
[14:42] <pfifo> bekks, usalabs, you could use an open proxy to test
[14:42] <wolfi_> bekks: Thank you for your help ! :) This is for you: http://planetoddity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/beer.jpg
[14:42] <dr_willis> g0th:  from the console, you could run 'sudo lightdm' and look for errors.
[14:43] <g0th> ok I try
[14:43] <usalabs> pfifo I'll try a proxy to see what happens, brb
[14:43] <bekks> usalabs: Your "network specialist" did tell you - something, but nothing what would be working. Being in your home LAN, you CANNOT test a outside connection, because you are NOT outside your LAN, but inside it. There are ways like NAT and loopback to simulate this behaviour, but thats not a valid test if something weird is happening.
[14:46] <Lobosque> hello, I'd like to know what exactly happens when i press ctrl+z in a process running in the terminal. it is stoped and transfered to the background?
[14:47] <dr_willis> Lobosque:  you may want to read up on 'bash job controll' to learn what its doing.
[14:47] <SeeIt> Lobo: No, the process is paused
[14:47] <dr_willis> thats the basics of what its doing yes.. going to the background. bg and fg work together.
[14:47] <g0th> ok, solved the lightdm problem
[14:47] <Lobosque> SeeIt but when it is paused I can use the terminal again. this means the process is transfered to the background?
[14:47] <pfifo> Lobosque, it stops, use `bg` after a C^z to send to background
[14:48] <dr_willis> Lobosque:  also check the jobs command.
[14:48] <g0th> how do I configure the panels/desktops/etc in unity (I think I run unity now, not sure)?
[14:48] <SeeIt> You can use the terminal, but the process doesnt run
[14:48] <Lobosque> so I can have more than one process in the foreground, as long as they are stopped?
[14:48] <dr_willis> g0th:  the webupd8 blog site has some good docks on tweaking unity.
[14:48] <g465> how can i hack wifi password
[14:48] <SeeIt> The kernel scheduler doesnt grant cpu cycles to a paused process
[14:48] <SeeIt> A background process gets cpu cycles in the background
[14:48] <dr_willis> g0th:  the askubuntu.com site has lists of indicator applets, and quicklists also.. and lenses.
[14:48] <SeeIt> They are different
[14:48] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:49] <g0th> I am looking for very basic configurations
[14:49] <bc81> hello.  i have split a file using a script (http://superuser.com/questions/177823/are-there-any-tools-in-linux-for-splitting-a-file-in-place) but now i can't figure out how to put it back together.. any hints?
[14:49] <g0th> e.g. I prefer the panel on the bottom side
[14:49] <g0th> and I dont need a desktop manager
[14:50] <g0th> also I would like to change the keyboard shortcuts
[14:50] <pfifo> bc81, `cat part1 >> output` `cat part2 >> output` and so on
[14:50] <SeeIt> @bc81: Use cat file1 file2 > combined_file
[14:50] <Lobosque> SeeIt and how do I resume a paused process?
[14:50] <bc81> ok, i will try that.  thanks guys!
[14:50] <pfifo> Lobosque, `fg`
[14:50] <g0th> I checked the webupd8 site but it mostly seems to be about some extensions/addons that I dont need
[14:50] <SeeIt> You can resume with fg or bg
[14:51] <SeeIt> for fg == foreground and bg == background
[14:51] <reyazbot> Hii.. how do we use the windows key+D to show desktop??
[14:52] <g0th> e.g. where can I change the behaviour of the window manager
[14:52] <Lobosque> I started three xeyes and paused each of them. when I type "jobs", one has a "-" in front of the ID and other has a "+". What does it mean?
[14:52] <g0th> like how desktop switching looks like etc...
[14:52] <reyazbot> If anyone know how to assign WinKey+D to use it for show desktop please let me know
[14:52] <BluesKaj> reyazbot, how do mean show desktop ?
[14:53] <reyazbot> i meant to minimize all windows
[14:53] <reyazbot> with the shortcut comb we have in windows OS
[14:53] <reyazbot> i found that option in earlier ubuntu dist but in 10.04 i am lost
[14:53] <macs> my DVD drive is not working on my ubuntu machine
[14:54] <reyazbot> searching for show desktop option in keyboard shortcuts
[14:54] <BluesKaj> reyazbot, i just switch desktops
[14:54] <pfifo> odd, i didnt expect win+d to minimize, but it just worked in lubuntu
[14:54] <wolfi_> dr_willis: I still can't execute the file :( see: http://imagebin.org/183781 can you help ?
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> macs: can you expand on "not working please"
[14:55] <macs> when i put a blank DVD into my DVD drive nothing happens
[14:55] <reyazbot> yeah but it used to work in ubuntu earlier ver, not now...
[14:55] <macs> does not even detect it.
[14:55] <bc81> reyazbot what ubuntu version?
[14:55] <reyazbot> got it.
[14:55] <g0th> how do I configure the ubuntu-desktop?
[14:55] <reyazbot> its string name is changed in 10.04
[14:55] <ikonia> it auto configures
[14:55] <ikonia> g0th: it' a meta package
[14:55] <reyazbot> its in the list of keyboard shortcuts
[14:55] <g0th> e.g. I want 6 desktops with one row, I would like to have only one panel at the bottom of the screen
[14:55] <reyazbot> its default is ctr+alt+D
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> macs: does: dmesg | tail   show anything?
[14:56] <g0th> I would like to specify how window and desktop switching looks
[14:56] <reyazbot> i can change it to win+D to imitate windows os
[14:56] <ikonia> g0th: read the unity documentation
[14:56] <g0th> etc...
[14:56] <bullgard4> dr_willis: I have done what you said. Now user 'abc' will see a rxvt-unicode window after having logged in. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[14:56] <macs> ActionParsnip, yes
[14:56] <ikonia> g0th: it will explain what is/is not possible
[14:56] <ikonia> g0th: there are limitations
[14:56] <g0th> is there a more sophisticated window manager?
[14:56] <reyazbot> mine is 10.04 UE
[14:57] <g0th> where I can make more changes
[14:57] <ikonia> g0th: what do you mean more sophisticated ?
[14:57] <ikonia> g0th: I thought you where just using it to recover your system,
[14:57] <g0th> oh about that :)
[14:57] <g0th> I am very happy now
[14:57] <reyazbot> 1 more thing guys, scroll on the wallpaper used to change the workspace.. but after upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 it isnt... any guess how to restore it..
[14:57] <ikonia> wow, you've gone from the end of the world to happy in about 60 minutes
[14:57] <g0th> I installed ubuntu-desktop and every issue vannished except for the apt issue
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> macs: anything relating to a DVD insertion?
[14:58] <macs> Nope.
[14:58] <ikonia> g0th: there is no apt issue
[14:58] <bekks> g0th: Which apt issue?
[14:58] <g0th> so now I try to live with ubuntu-desktop for the time beeing
[14:58] <macs> Only network stuff.
[14:58] <ikonia> g0th: I thought we have discovered this, there was no problem with apt
[14:58] <g0th> gimp-plugin-registry is always trying to be installed by apt
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: strange day huh
[14:58] <g0th> even though I remove it
[14:58] <ikonia> it's just stupid
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> !info  gimp-plugin-registry
[14:58] <g0th> almost every package is listed twice
[14:58] <ikonia> go^: NO
[14:58] <ikonia> g0th: bo
[14:58] <ikonia> no
[14:58] <ikonia> apt is NOT listing every package, that was aptitude
[14:59] <g0th> and apt seems to be incapable of forgetting new packages
[14:59] <ikonia> g0th: stop mixing up problems to make new ones
[14:59] <g0th> aptitude ok
[14:59] <ikonia> apt is working fine -
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> g0th: comment out the gimp repo you have added, close the text editor and run:  sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install  gimp-plugin-registry
[14:59] <macs> ActionParsnip, Not even my Ubuntu DVD works.
[14:59] <g0th> but apt also fails to not install gimp-...
[14:59] <g0th> I already did that
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> macs: what does dmesg say, use a pastebin for multiple lines
[14:59] <g0th> ActionParsnip: yeah I tried that it is not working
[14:59] <theborger> ok well not pulseaudio will not start
[14:59] <ikonia> g0th: please show me the error it produces when it trys to install this package that does not go away
[14:59] <bekks> !explain | g0th
[14:59] <bekks> hmm.
[15:00] <theborger> all i get is Daemon starup failed
[15:00] <bekks> !details | g0th
[15:00] <macs> http://pastie.org/private/dluwknfxjrpc7oqwnghrw
[15:00] <zykotick9> bekks, !details or !notworking - you found details ;)
[15:00] <bekks> :P
[15:00] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/HyXQ8gHY
[15:01] <g0th> I was just answering ikonia's question
[15:01] <bekks> g0th: line 13.
[15:01] <bekks> g0th: Are you installing gimp from some PPA?
[15:01] <ikonia> g0th: it's trying to install it because you're typing "apt-get install"
[15:01] <Pavilliox> Guys I'm having serious PulseAudio issues, my hardware isnt even listed anymore
[15:01] <g0th> no
[15:01] <g0th> I removed all other repo entries
[15:01] <ikonia> sudo apt-get install gimp-plugin-registry
[15:01] <ikonia> you typed that
[15:01] <ikonia> it will course install gimp-plugin-registry
[15:01] <bekks> g0th: I do think so... "which is also in package gimp 2.7.4-2011102201~oo"
[15:02] <bekks> That isnt a ubuntu repo package. So delete it.
[15:02] <dr_willis> You did do a 'sudo apt-get update' after removing all the repo entries?
[15:02] <ikonia> g0th: if you read the error, it's picking up a failed installation from cache, remove those files
[15:02] <g0th> 15:59 < ikonia> g0th: please show me the error it produces when it trys to install this package that does  not go away
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> g0th: can you pastebin the output of ikonia's command pleas
[15:02] <bekks> g0th: Did you read what I wrote?
[15:02] <theborger> pulseaudio --start
[15:02] <theborger> E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[15:02] <theborger> anyone lend a hand with this?
[15:02] <ikonia> this is crazy
[15:02] <ikonia> g0th: you said it keeps trying to install that package - of course it does if you type apt-get install gimp-plugin-registry
[15:03] <ikonia> g0th: either way, remove the cache then re-run ActionParsnip's suggestion
[15:03] <g0th> bekks: I answered your question
[15:03] <macs> ActionParsnip, http://pastie.org/private/dluwknfxjrpc7oqwnghrw and my DVD/CD drive is TSSTcorp CDRWDVD TS-H492C
[15:03] <bekks> I'd suggest removing the PPA package and use gimp from the ubuntu repos.
[15:03] <g0th> bekks: I removed all other repositories
[15:03] <dr_willis> looks almost like theres 2 differnt gimps its wanting..
[15:03] <dr_willis> g0th:  you did a 'sudo apt-get update' after removing them?
[15:03] <bekks> g0th: Then try to explain why you have a non ubuntu package installed.
[15:03] <ikonia> remove the cache files
[15:04] <g0th> yes I did apt-get update
[15:04] <bekks> ikonia: The cache files are not interesting at that point.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> g0th: can you pastebin the output of ikonia's command please
[15:04] <bekks> The packages he wants to install collides with a non ubuntu repo package.
[15:04] <ikonia> bekks: they are, he's removed the repos, it's trying to re-start a failed instrall
[15:04] <g0th> I am still trying to find it
[15:04] <ikonia> remove the cache files, comment out the ppa's in the source
[15:04] <ikonia> however I suspect the PPA's already messed up the dependencies
[15:04] <Pavilliox> No-one have any idea why PulseAudio isnt detecting my hard ware?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> macs: and that is after the CD has span up
[15:05] <bekks> OF COURSE it fails again, because removing a PPA does NOT purge all packages from that PPA.
[15:05] <rahmat> some body can help me,,i'm new in ubuntu
[15:05] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> rahmat: ask away
[15:05] <g0th> what is the command I am supposed to run?
[15:05] <macs> ActionParsnip, i dont understand
[15:05] <g0th> I dont find it above
[15:06] <bekks> g0th: Uninstall that package, then reinstall gimp from the ubutu repos.
[15:06] <roscarv> yeah
[15:06] <bekks> Your error will be gone then.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> macs: is that pastebin the output of dmesg AFTER you put a disk in and let it spin?
[15:06] <rahmat> ActionParsnip : u know about lam/mpi
[15:06] <g0th> the package is already uninstalled
[15:06] <bekks> g0th: Which package?
[15:06] <g0th> I already reinstalled gimp
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> g0th: 15:0215:02   ikonia: sudo apt-get install gimp-plugin-registry
[15:06] <g0th> gimp-plugin-registry
[15:07] <g0th> ActionParsnip: I already did that way back and also provided the link
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> rahmat: not much, sorry
[15:07] <macs> ActionParsnip, the distk was in when i pasted that
[15:07] <bekks> g0th: Then please show us the output of apt-cache policy gimp in a nopaste please.
[15:07] <ikonia> this is a waste of time, he doesn't listen.
[15:07] <ikonia> good luck guys
[15:07] <bekks> ikonia: thanks. thats my last try too ;)
[15:07] <rahmat> ActionParsnip : if mipch2????
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> g0th: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp-plugin-registry_3.5.4-1_amd64.deb
[15:08] <bekks> DONT run that command.
[15:08] <g0th> one thing at a time
[15:08] <bekks> g0th: Listen to me.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> g0th: /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/file-xmc is in 2 packages and the OS doesn't like that. I suggest you report a bug
[15:08] <g0th> I know linux basics
[15:08] <g0th> I use it since 2.0.something
[15:08] <bekks> g0th: Show me the output of the apt-cache policy gimp command.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> g0th: the command I gave with make it not care
[15:09] <ikonia> g0th: then you shouldn't be this sloppy, so don't give me this been using linux for ages
[15:09] <sinjax> So, I'm more problems with 11.04, this time it is the HDMI sound on my Asus EB1501
[15:09] <arleslie> hey guys having a strange issue
[15:09] <g0th> http://pastebin.com/icmsaZqs
[15:10] <bekks> Thats still not an ubuntu repo package.
[15:10] <macs> ActionParsnip, the disk drive is not even spinning.
[15:10] <arleslie> im running windows 7 and trying to dual boot with ubuntu. but every time I install grub, the win7 bootloader pops up
[15:10] <ironfoot495> hello I'm having a problem with screen. I can see the screen using 19inch but my 42 inch is not showing unless I start with my 19 and remove it and replace it with the 42 inch
[15:10] <g0th> I did apt-get install --reinstall gimp and I removed all other ppas
[15:10] <g0th> hmm
[15:10] <ikonia> arleslie: probably installed to the wrong disk, or to a partition instead of the master boot record
[15:10] <g0th> can I force ubuntu to install all packages from the repo avaiable?
[15:11] <bekks> g0th: Obviously at least one PPA is left.
[15:11] <arleslie> I installed it to a partition
[15:11] <bekks> g0th: That wont help.
[15:11] <ironfoot495> but the picture has black on the left side can I get some help with this???
[15:11] <g0th> because this is like a chain reaction a lot of packages seem to be not available now
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ironfoot495, what kind of connection to the tv ?
[15:11] <ironfoot495> vga
[15:11] <bekks> g0th: Thats your "problem" then, if you are using packages from PPAs ;)
[15:11] <arleslie>  *ubuntu to a partition and grub to two different hdds
[15:11] <g0th> bekks: I renamed the .list files to .list.old and removed everything additional in sources.list
[15:11] <Nalleman> Ahhh. my printer dont work and I have to print som tickets for tonight. Could someone give me a hand?
[15:12] <g0th> I try to fix gimp manually
[15:12] <bekks> g0th: At least one PPA is left over, as you can see, too.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> 42" tv has a vga ironfoot495 ..is this an older tv?
[15:12] <ironfoot495> I've looked at all the stuff concerning xrandr but having a problem putting it all together
[15:12] <ironfoot495> it's a lcd sreen
[15:12] <g0th> no it is not
[15:12] <ironfoot495> screen
[15:12] <g0th> the problem is that even though I removed the ppa it seems to prefer the currently installed software
[15:13] <zykotick9> g0th, i don't think PPAs are in sources.list - i believe they might be in the directory sources.d perhaps?  there is some ppa-purge script/command out there.
[15:13] <pfifo> arleslie, is your computer using uefi?
[15:13] <g0th> yes I renamed all in sources.list.d
[15:13] <ironfoot495> it just wont boot using the 42 inch lcd screen
[15:13] <arleslie> pfifo, uefi?
[15:13] <g0th> is there a way to switch package versions to available packages?
[15:13] <kuchiku> anyone know why my gateway is 0.0.0.0
[15:13] <pangolin> g0th: renaming those entries in sources.list.d to .old doesn't disable them it causes errors
[15:13] <BluesKaj> ironfoot495, that size tv should have a hdmi connection for best results
[15:13] <g0th> it also disables them
[15:13] <bekks> g0th: Yes. It preferres the currently installed software. You have to purge it and reinstall it from the ubuntu repos. ALL of the software you installed from PPA.
[15:14] <arleslie> ironfoot495, have you tried switching ports on your graphics card?
[15:14] <g0th> purging it removes like 100 packages
[15:14] <pfifo> arleslie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[15:14] <bekks> g0th: and?
[15:14] <ironfoot495> oh okwell I just have the vga if that's what you mean???
[15:14] <g0th> Isn't it better to manually select the other version?
[15:14] <g0th> then I dont remove 100 other packages
[15:14] <pangolin> g0th:  I have seen you asking for help and 3 people who know what they are doing try to help and you not listen. good luck.
[15:14] <bekks> g0th: Then do it. It will break dependencies most likely.
[15:15] <reyazbot> anybody interested in bluetooth related talk??
[15:15] <g0th> pangolin: I am listening to everything, don't worry
[15:15] <g0th> bekks: yes I am doing it right now, give me some time
[15:15] <bekks> g0th: You arent. I am not going to tell you again what to do. And I am not going to discuss it.
[15:15] <g0th> it is like 50 broken dependencies I have to fix
[15:15] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2] Why does the tooltip "URxvt" of the rxvt-unicode program icon show the second letter capitalized?
[15:15] <reyazbot> i was trying to get my phone with a2dp go hand in hand with my kubuntu..
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> g0th: did the package install ok?
[15:16] <kuchiku> in ubuntu and linux nothing is intuitive
[15:16] <g0th> need some time
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> kuchiku: you'll find it is, just try. Take off your windows hat first
[15:16] <arleslie> pfifo, I don't know
[15:17] <g0th> all right, it works now
[15:17] <bekks> ActionParsnip: No, it didnt. He is currently cleaning up his system from PPA packages left over causing dependency breakage.
[15:17] <theborger> anyone help with audio issues?
[15:17] <g0th> gimp-plugin issue was solved, the cause was a problem with the ppa
[15:18] <bekks> g0th: Not "with a PPA", but "becaus I used a PPA."
[15:18] <g0th> Is there a way to list all packages that have been installed from ppa?
[15:18] <bullgard4> !sound | theborger
[15:18] <kuchiku> actionparsnip , i tried , for example installing a network manager wont connect you to internet
[15:18] <g0th> bekks: are you trying to annoy me with those remarks?
[15:18] <bekks> g0th: No.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> ironfoot495, maybe your graphics driver/card doesn't support the tv's required resolution at boot ..dunno what esle to suggest except a graphicd card with dvi/hdmi output
[15:18] <g0th> so about unity
[15:19] <Pavilliox> Anyone know how to reinstall the PulseAudio indicator applet?
[15:19] <g0th> is there some main configuration tool?
[15:19] <g0th> also I didn't find the keychain thing
[15:19] <theborger> bullgard4: that is not the issue, i cant get also 1.0.24 to install for my hdmi video card, after i updated ubuntu
[15:19] <g0th> to backup my home
[15:19] <kuchiku> after using the pon dsl....command to start internet connection , network manager wont work
[15:19] <bullgard4> Pavilliox: What is you desktop environment and distribution release?
[15:19] <xangua> Pavilliox: install the metapackage ubuntu-desktop and should reinstall all default packages
[15:20] <Pavilliox> xangua: Thanks
[15:20] <kuchiku> wont work forever
[15:20] <kuchiku> ever , ever
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> kuchiku: the network manager uses the drivers installed. Simply having a network manager app doesn't automatically get you web access
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> kuchiku: just like Windows, you already have a wifi manager in the OS, doesn't mean you don't need to install wifi drivers
[15:21] <yeats> kuchiku: you can't use pon/poff *and* use network manager to manage your connection - it's either/or
[15:21] <dwon> Since I installed oneiric, whenever I try to use "see foo.pdf", it says: 'Error: no "view" mailcap rules found for type "application/pdf"', even though evince is installed.
[15:21] <kuchiku> and using network manger to connect to internet , if your conenction drop for like 5 times then network manager wont work again and required a system restart
[15:21] <g0th> never mind google helped, I need to use the ccsm
[15:21] <zykotick9> Pavilliox, you may / or may not need to use "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop" to replace any missing config files.  Good luck.
[15:21] <roscarv> use *get-apt
[15:22] <ikonia> g0th: ccsm is nothing to do with your problem
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> kuchiku: then I'd look at why it drops, sounds like an issue there
[15:23] <g0th> according to ubuntu helper forum it does
[15:23] <bekks> g0th: Unity isnt compiz. ccsm is a tool for compiz, not for unity.
[15:23] <bekks> g0th: Then that form entry is wrong.
[15:23] <ikonia> g0th: again....start listening to what people are telling
[15:23] <g0th> so you tell me not to go read online documentions, ok
[15:23] <kuchiku> yeats that's the problem why can't network manager wont work since it is an app for that
[15:23] <ikonia> I totally give up now
[15:23] <zykotick9> bekks, actually, i think some unity setting are in ccsm
[15:23] <bekks> g0th: Who said that?
[15:24] <g0th> http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/62903#62903
[15:24] <bekks> g0th: If you refuse to listen to people and just do what you want, I am giving up, too. Good luck.
[15:24] <ikonia> why are you even looking at configuring unity at this time ? wait until you have solved all your root isssues
[15:24] <g0th> some people just make up their mind about someone and from that point on, they only see the negative side
[15:24] <ikonia> g0th: fix the packge issues,
[15:25] <g0th> you refuse to listen
[15:25] <ikonia> g0th: we are seeing negative as you are being told what you need to do and constatly looking for ways/reasons not to do it
[15:25] <ikonia> g0th: fully listening,
[15:25] <g0th> I am doing all you tell me, all I get are complains
[15:25] <ikonia> g0th: because you're not doing what you're being advised
[15:25] <g0th> give an example
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> kuchiku: When it drops, run:  dmesg | tail    may tell you what is going on
[15:25] <yeats> kuchiku: right click the NetworkManager applet -> VPN Connections -> Configure VPN - then try and add the connection there
[15:25] <g0th> I hate to do this "right" "wrong" discussion
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> kuchiku: disabling ipv6 if you don't use it can help
[15:25] <bekks> g0th: Then stop it.
[15:25] <g0th> they only infuse the flame and are not helping but anyway
[15:25] <ikonia> I'm not going through the logs to give you examples, the fact that people keep saying "do what you are told" suggests that you are not
[15:25] <xangua> g0th: what package issues'¿
[15:25] <g0th> you start it all the time
[15:26] <charminthemoose> Can anyone recommend an app that lets you cycle through windows, if the window manager doesn't provide such functionality?
[15:26] <g0th> the gimp package issue was resolved as I already said, I am not sure what he meant
[15:26] <kuchiku> actionparnip , the connection drop is bcos of bad weather and something like that but the network manager should not stop working after afew time of disconnection
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> kuchiku: then try wicd or wifi-radar
[15:26] <bonhoffer> why doesn't ls -d give me directories like the man page says
[15:27] <g0th> the main issue now is to get a useable desktop or at least to figure out how to save my home encryption stuff
[15:27] <g0th> ccms seems to be the right tool
[15:27] <ikonia> its not
[15:27] <claudiuvlad> hello, everybody
[15:27] <g0th> ok what else then?
[15:27] <ikonia> that is for compiz
[15:27] <ikonia> good luck
[15:27] <kuchiku> it's not a wireless actionparsnip
[15:27] <g0th> now you are just flaming again
[15:27] <ikonia> no
[15:28] <claudiuvlad> after playing with rsync, I have a bunch of files which cannot be deleted
[15:28] <g0th> those comments are not helping
[15:28] <g0th> they are hurting and wasting my time
[15:28] <ikonia> I've just stopped you using the wrong tool ?
[15:28] <ikonia> that is helping
[15:28] <g0th> you basically said: No, you're lost, fuck off
[15:28] <xangua> ikonia: so the unity plugin in compiz setting configuration tool, is not to configure unity¿
[15:28] <kuchiku> now i'm using the pon/poff to connect to internet so the network manager wont work
[15:28] <ikonia> g0th: tone down the langauge
[15:28] <g0th> so yeah nice help
[15:28] <yeats> claudiuvlad: can you provide details?  define "playing with rsync"?  any error messages?
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> g0th: what is the current issue?
[15:28] <g0th> back at you
[15:29] <ikonia> g0th: I'm not using bad language - so don't be silly
[15:29] <bonhoffer> so i'll ask how to get a ls for directories only (if ls -d doesn't do it)
[15:29] <kuchiku> how if i want to stop the pon/poff method and start using the network manager again ?
[15:29] <g0th> you are extremely rude
[15:29] <ikonia> xangua: it won't change the desktop, just the unity compiz interface
[15:29] <claudiuvlad> yeats:  look here  - the output of ls http://paste.ubuntu.com/736299/
[15:29] <g0th> you would never talk to someone like that in real world
[15:29] <theborger> is there a way to uninstall all updates? so it rolls back?
[15:29] <ikonia> g0th: I do, but I'd never have to as people normally listen
[15:29] <JoeSomebody> if one buys home support does it come with any extra docs, etc. also, is it telephone support, remote asistance support or what exactly, i found where we can buy it but there is no description of what we get, anyone a good link?
[15:29] <g0th> again
[15:29] <g0th> you are not helping
[15:29] <g0th> I will not respond to those comments anymore
[15:30] <ikonia> g0th: I'm responding to your comments, what do you expect ?
[15:30] <g0th> maybe it is better if you stay out of it
[15:30] <xangua> JoeSomebody: canonical.com
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> g0th: will you answer my civil question please
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> g0th: maybe I can help
[15:30] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: the canonical support package contains all the info you want
[15:30] <g0th> thanks for the help so far ikonia but please don't help anymore
[15:30] <g0th> sorry ActionParsnip
[15:30] <ssta> bonhoffer: find . -maxdepth 1 -type d
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> g0th: last time, what is currently your issue??
[15:31] <kuchiku> LOL ........... until linux get the user friendly right else they will be fight in all linux chatroom ...........
[15:31] <theborger> is there a way to uninstall all updates? so it rolls back?
[15:31] <yeats> claudiuvlad: whoa - I've not seen that happen before.  Can you share the commands you entered that got you to this situation?
[15:31] <g0th> the issue at the top of the list are two: first I would like to be able to recover my home after I reinstall my system. Currently I use unity/lightdm/ubuntu-desktop
[15:31] <edbian> theborger: no :(
[15:31] <g0th> the second is to configure unity, the net had some remarks about using ccsm to configure it
[15:31] <JoeSomebody> ikonia, ok thanks, i am not rich, perhaps over cautious
[15:31] <claudiuvlad> yeats: whoa thats what I said...  It was a rsync from that folder to a samba share
[15:31] <ikonia> JoeSomebody: nothing wrong with that
[15:32] <theborger> well then i guess it would be easier to just reinstall this damn thing
[15:32] <xangua> g0th: for your hoome, make a backup
[15:32] <markskilbeck> Has anyone had problems with Empathy and MSN?
[15:32] <theborger> 4 hours of work down the drain
[15:32] <g0th> xangua: it is 1-2 TB
[15:32] <claudiuvlad> yeats: this is the command  rsync -av --delete --delete-after --delete-excluded /root/.cache/duplicity/  /media/sambaa/setari_duplicity/
[15:32] <g0th> xangua: it is a separate partition so in that way it is already ok
[15:32] <g0th> xangua: my backup NAS will arrive in about 4 weeks until then I cannot backup
[15:33] <bullgard4> 'man 1 rxvt-unicode': "OPTIONS > -geometry geom: Window geometry; resource geometry." How to use this information? How can I set width and hight and position of a rxvt-unicode window?
[15:33] <bullgard4> s/hight/height/
[15:33] <xangua> g0th: you have your home in another partition¿ if yes then you can reinstall without issues if you tell the installer to use that partition as home
[15:33] <noodle> ehhh hey
[15:33] <g0th> no I cannot
[15:33] <g0th> because it is encrypted
[15:34] <bekks> Store the ackup unencrypted then.
[15:34] <bekks> backup even.
[15:34] <SeeIt> If I have a virtual machine with roo-ssh access and a desktop enviroment, is it possible to execute commands on the users desktop?
[15:34] <cromag>                           http://www.jv.dk/artikel/1228206:Haderslev--Knap-fire-tons-jern-blev-stjaalet-fra-Vojens-Banegaard?rss
[15:34] <cromag>                           http://www.jv.dk/artikel/1228206:Haderslev--Knap-fire-tons-jern-blev-stjaalet-fra-Vojens-Banegaard?rss
[15:34] <FloodBot1> cromag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> g0th: do you use encrypted file system?
[15:34] <SeeIt> If I type in gnome-terminal --execute echo "hi"
[15:34] <g0th> encrypted home directory
[15:34] <pfifo> goth: in that case copy your /etc/cryptfs to a safe place, you can then set it up manually after installing
[15:35] <cromag> sorry about that.
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> g0th: yes, is the home directory encrypted?
[15:35] <SeeIt> i want it to show that to the logged in user of the system
[15:35] <g0th> I guess so
[15:35] <wolfi_> Hi. Again :( I cant start ./fwupd. Why ? See: http://imagebin.org/183781
[15:35] <claudiuvlad> yeats: can you give me an idea ?  I cannot remove those files, also cannot ls/file them
[15:35] <_calum> which repository is Flash player in?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> g0th: it either is or it isn't. Its a concious decision at install to encrypt at install. if you didn't set it then it is not encrypted
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> g0th: so, is it encrypted or not?
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> _calum: partner
[15:36] <pfifo> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[15:36] <g0th> yes I selected encrypted home directory
[15:36] <g0th> I am not sure if it is at the fs level or not
[15:36] <_calum> ActionParsnip:Thankyou so much. Can I find it in software sources?
[15:36] <xangua> !partner | _calum for 32 and 64bit
[15:37] <yeats> claudiuvlad: aside from thinking that the rsync command you used looks dangerous with all the --delete options, I don't have much help to offer
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> _calum: yes, or you can uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list   either is fine
[15:37] <yeats> claudiuvlad: maybe someone else will be able to help?
[15:37] <xangua> it's adobe-flashplugin package on partner _calum pfifo
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> g0th: ah, i have zero experience of encrypted file systems.
[15:37] <claudiuvlad> yeats: thanks anyway,  glad to meet such a great poet :P
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> g0th: too much headache
[15:37] <bonhoffer> ssta, thanks!
[15:37] <yeats> claudiuvlad: heh - just a fan of the poet ;-)
[15:37] <_calum> thanks for the help
[15:38] <pfifo> xangua, ahh, im using 10.04 and its flashplugin-nonfree
[15:38] <SeeIt> If I have a virtual machine with root ssh access and a desktop enviroment, is it possible to execute commands on the users desktop? I want to type in xclock from the outside via ssh and the physical user of the system should see that.
[15:38] <noodle> what irc client do you guys use?
[15:38] <xangua> pfifo: it is also on partner for lucid, and it has this flash configuration tool also ;)
[15:38] <claudiuvlad> hello, I need some help please - with non deletable files on ext4
[15:38] <bullgard4> noodle: I am using Chatzilla.
[15:39] <pfifo> claudiuvlad, try running a filesystem check
[15:39] <noodle> bullgard: how do you like it?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> SeeIt: sure, just run:  export DISPLAY=0.0   then graphical apps you run will appear on the desktop. I suggest you add an ampersand at the end of the command so you get the terminal back
[15:39] <loconut> is the partner archive down this AM?
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> noodle: irssi and pidgin
[15:40] <noodle> anyone ever try smuxi?
[15:40] <bekks> SeeIt: Then you have to do something like su - username; set DISPLAY=asneeded_lookitup, and then the user should see th xclock.
[15:40] <yeats> claudiuvlad: actually, what pfifo recommends is a good next step
[15:40] <bullgard4> noodle: I like it best. I am using irssi also but less frequently. Chatzilla allows me to change the configuration more easily (user-friendly).
[15:40] <valsabi> help
[15:40] <claudiuvlad> pfifo, I will do that
[15:40] <loconut> Unable to connect to archive.canonical.com:
[15:40] <bekks> !details | valsabi
[15:41] <SeeIt> Thanks, where can I read about the display numbers
[15:41] <claudiuvlad> pfifo, can I do a fsck without restarting ? its about the root partition
[15:41] <SeeIt> ?
[15:41] <pfifo> claudiuvlad, NO, never run a filesystem check on a mounted partition
[15:41] <noodle> bullgard: cool, i'll have to check out chatzilla. i'm using smuxi right now and it's starting to grow on me. i'm normally on irssi myself.
[15:41] <valsabi> oh... i having a fuji xerox docuprint m205 b printer.
[15:41] <SeeIt> It looks like ssh -X creates its own display
[15:41] <valsabi> where to get the driver ?
[15:41] <g0th> about the configuration of unity
[15:41] <g0th> it seems that compiz and unity somehow work together
[15:41] <bekks> SeeIt: No. It just forwards X request to the clients X server.
[15:42] <bullgard4> noodle: Good luck and enjoy ubuntu!
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> valsabi: have you checked the xerox site for a driver
[15:42] <g0th> the settings from unity affected the settings in compiz (ccsm) and the ccsm settings affected the settings in unity
[15:42] <roscarv> you can go to driver.pl.com
[15:42] <sinjax> so bit of a starter question, but i hardly ever interact with X these days, so tell me, say I need to run the command "comvis --replace" after a user has logged in
[15:42] <sinjax> how would I go about doing that? is there an equivalent of .profile?
[15:42] <valsabi> i have a problem to getting printer driver for fuji xerox model DocuPrint m205 b .
[15:42] <SeeIt> Yeah, it forwardes X to the ssh-client
[15:43] <SeeIt> but I think it creates a display enviroment varaible
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> sinjax: there is a startup manager app in dash, you can make a command run there
[15:43] <evaristo> !list
[15:43] <bekks> SeeIt: Thats different from "it creates its own display".
[15:43] <glda19> how can i share a folder on my external hd by samba
[15:43] <valsabi> xerox website don't have driver for ubuntu
[15:43] <milen8204> dr_willis, I have written a script http://pastebin.com/25KE5rg5 but can set it up on Ubuntu 11.10
[15:44] <cYmen_> I updated a machine and can't mount my encrypted /home anymore, cryptsetup says /dev/mapper/home is active but when I try to mount it all the superblocks seem to be corrupt. Does anybody know something about this?
[15:44] <bekks> valsabi: Try looking it up on www.linuxprinting.org
[15:44] <arleslie> Hey guys, having a few issues getting Grub installed, I installed Ubuntu to /dev/sdc3 and told it to use /dev/sdc for the bootloader, but it pops up with Windows7's bootloader so, I tried to install it on /dev/sdb just incase, but still having the issue. I can't install it on /dev/sda because it's GPT.
[15:44] <bekks> cYmen_: "seem to be corrupt"? Whats the detailed error message?
[15:44] <SeeIt> I guess a single PC can handle multiple displays; how can I find out about all active displays (physical and ssh forwarded)?
[15:45] <valsabi> This site is down for maintenance. We will be restoring service shortly. Thank you for your patience.
[15:45] <valsabi> The Linux Foundation
[15:45] <valsabi> the www.linuxprinting.org is close now.
[15:45] <noodle> don't you hate it when you're logged onto your botnet on IRC and some idiot comes on and tries to hassle you?
[15:45] <cYmen_> bekks: The error message is "Unrecognized mount option "<charactermess>" or missing value [...] bad option, bad superblock
[15:46] <PastorBones> The latest update for Flash broke my vids...how can I revert that update?
[15:46] <glda19> how can  i share a directory on  a external hd by samba
[15:47] <pfifo> arleslie, you might want to try asking in #grub
[15:48] <arleslie> pfifo: ok, thanks
[15:48] <valsabi> anyone got ideal to get the printer driver for fuji xerox m205b printer please send an email to me at abcresources11@gmail.com thanks
[15:48] <claudiuvlad> touch /forcefsck
[15:48] <claudiuvlad> oops
[15:49] <cYmen_> bekks: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/506772/
[15:49] <bullgard4> 'man 1 rxvt-unicode': "OPTIONS > -geometry geom: Window geometry; resource geometry." How to use this information? How can I set width and hight and position of a rxvt-unicode window?
[15:52] <pfifo> bullgard4, check this http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XWindow-User-HOWTO/cli.html
[15:53] <pfifo> cYmen_, what command are you using to setup the mapper?
[15:54] <Adamantus12345> Hi
[15:54] <cYmen_> pfifo: was setup by ubuntu on boot
[15:54] <pfifo> cYmen_, can you paste your /etc/crypttab
[15:54] <Adamantus12345> I'm just trying to get Notepad++ on to Ubuntu 11, it doesn't show up on software centre
[15:55] <cYmen_> pfifo: It's dead boring: home /dev/sda3 none none
[15:55] <pfifo> cYmen_, thats in your /etc/crypttab?
[15:56] <cYmen_> yeah
[15:57] <PastorBones> stupid flash update
[15:57] <pfifo> cYmen_, run this `sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 test` and then `mount /dev/mapper/test /mnt`
[15:57] <glda19> ho can help me to share a direcrtory on a external hd by samba in ubuntu
[15:57] <pfifo> cYmen_, sudo on both thos actually
[15:58] <cYmen_> Device /dev/sda3 is not a valid LUKS device.
[15:59] <spacebug-> glda19: same way you would do with a non external disk
[16:00] <glda19> spacebug i have no access to the directory
[16:01] <spacebug-> glda19: what do you mean?
[16:01] <roscarv> yAH JUST LIKE THAT
[16:01] <Crazy> hello,everyone , i'm use wubi install ubuntu10.10 under the windows , and now i want to install gentoo , how can i configure my grub.conf to guide the ubuntu and windows 7
[16:01] <cYmen_> pfifo: I have no idea what's going on cryptsetup isLuks returns 0 for sda3...
[16:02] <xangua> Crazy i would suggest you to make an ubuntu real install ;)
[16:02] <pfifo> cYmen_, are you sure /dev/sda3 is the correct partition?
[16:02] <spacebug-> glda19: if you plug in the disk you are not able to browse it?
[16:02] <arrrghhh> hey all.  i went to install ubuntu on my new HP laptop - and it appears I can't create a partition?  am I limited to 4 primary partitions?
[16:02] <spacebug-> arrrghhh: yes
[16:03] <cYmen_> pfifo: No, is there any way to check except isLuks?
[16:03] <glda19> spacebug-, when i do that i can browse my hd on my ubuntu pc
[16:03] <pfifo> cYmen_, do a `sudo fdisk -l` you should be able to tell by the size of the partition
[16:03] <arrrghhh> spacebug-, what can i do?  it seems HP and Win7 have loaded this thing up with primary partitions...
[16:04] <cYmen_> pfifo: By the size of the partition?
[16:04] <Crazy> xangua: but i rellay don't want to reinstall the ubuntu
[16:04] <spacebug-> glda19: good. then you can do it. Where does it get mounted?
[16:04] <Crazy> xangua: i think it must have some method
[16:04] <h95> j/ #linuxac
[16:04] <glda19> spacebug-,  what did you mean
[16:04] <pfifo> cYmen_, I mean, you know your /home is so many gi9gabytes
[16:05] <spacebug-> arrrghhh: well, remove a partition and make a logical or something
[16:05] <arrrghhh> spacebug-, but that's the problem.  i remove a partition and i break something.  either i break recovery, or i break w7...  i'd rather not break either!
[16:05] <Crazy> xangua: i have google for a long time and i'm also don't have a good idea
[16:05] <spacebug-> glda19: samba does not care wether its a internal och external disk you just share a path
[16:05] <cYmen_> pfifo: Yeah, it's definitely right.
[16:05] <spacebug-> arrrghhh: well then you have a problem
[16:06] <cYmen_> There's only two partitions on this machine that are not windows or swap anyway...
[16:06] <arrrghhh> spacebug-, lol.  can i convert a partition to logical...?  or will that break it :/
[16:06] <cYmen_> uh...There are
[16:06] <jose> Hi, how i can know if my user have read permission over X file in bash?
[16:06] <bekks> jose: Please rephrase your question.
[16:06] <arrrghhh> jose, with a script or cli
[16:06] <spacebug-> arrrghhh: Not sure actually but I would not mess with recoverypartitions
[16:07] <pfifo> cYmen_, try mounting /dev/sda3 directly `sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt`
[16:07] <arrrghhh> spacebug-, agreed... i kinda like the concept.  i'd rather not ruin it.
[16:07] <raven> munin possible to use it without webinterface?
[16:07] <glda19> spacebug-, on my vista i see the directory but no access the path is un my vista \\ubuntu\muziek
[16:07] <jose> arrrrghh i want make a script
[16:07] <spacebug-> glda19: take a look at my smb.conf to get some hints http://pastebin.com/L6mB1kr2
[16:07] <arrrghhh> jose, this isn't the best room for that... isn't there a #bash room?
[16:08] <arrrghhh> jose, there is.
[16:08] <bekks> jose: And whats the problem?
[16:08] <jose> ok, sorry.
[16:08] <Crazy> can anyone help me/
[16:08] <bekks> Crazy: Whitout a detailed question - I guess no.
[16:09] <arrrghhh> hrm
[16:09] <arrrghhh> gonna try converting the hp_tools partition to logical.
[16:09] <arrrghhh> let's hope i don't ruin this thing.
[16:10] <cYmen_> pfifo: Says it needs the fs type...
[16:10] <raven> munin possible to use it without webinterface?
[16:10] <bullgard4> pfifo: In ~/config//autostart/rxvt.desktop I replaced 'Exec=rxvt-unicode' with 'Exec=rxvt-unicode -geometry 700 x 900 +0 +0'. Now my rxvt-unicode window does not appear any more automatically when logging in.
[16:11] <Crazy> bekks: my question is that i have installed ubuntu10.10 with wubi under the windows 7, and know i want to install the gentoo, how can i configure my grub.conf in the gentoo
[16:11] <bekks> Crazy: Thats not an ubuntu question then.
[16:12] <pfifo> cYmen_, well it appears it uses dm-crypt without LUKS, Im not as well practiced with this mode of operation, I suggest looking up a cryptsetup tutorial and trying different options in hops you can find one that works
[16:12] <bullgard4> s//config/.config/
[16:12] <Crazy> bekks: ok , i will solve it by myself
[16:13] <pfifo> bullgard4, try 'Exec=rxvt-unicode -geometry "700 x 900 +0 +0"'
[16:13] <glda19> spacebug-, normaly the i must have a the shares in smb.conf
[16:13] <cYmen_> pfifo: dm-crypt without luks? who's ever heard of something like that. :D
[16:13] <spacebug-> glda19: yes
[16:14] <glda19> space how can i make the shares with swat
[16:15] <spacebug-> haven't used SWAT in a long time. I know it says in that file it is created with SWAT but it is acually manuallay created/modified by me
[16:15] <pfifo> cYmen_, if you happen to have your old /etc/crypttab from an older install, you can use the info in it
[16:15] <raven> munin possible to use it without webinterface?
[16:16] <bekks> raven: No.
[16:16] <raven> bekks, what is a similar alternative?
[16:17] <glda19> spacebug-, how can i make a share by swat form samba
[16:17] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello all.  Running 11.11 and Empathy seems to be failing at 2 sites to log in to my MSN account.  Any current info on what the issue might be and ETA for a fix?
[16:17] <bullgard4> pfifo: Using 'Exec=rxvt-unicode -geometry "700 x 900 +0 +0"'brings back the window to my display screen but the window has the default size and position and not "700 x 900 +0 +0".
[16:18] <sinjax> Hey, I'm running compiz using compiz --replace on startup (figured out how to do that). Now I do a ps ax | egrep 'decorator' and I get two decorators running
[16:18] <dr_willis> i dont think you want spaces in that bullgard4
[16:18] <sinjax> compiz-decorator and unity-window-decorator
[16:18] <spacebug-> glda19: don't know
[16:18] <sinjax> I'm not sure, but I feel this might be causing my problems with windows dragging
[16:18] <sinjax> (i.e. i start dragging the window, and nothing moves until I stop drag ging)
[16:21] <raven> bekks, what is a similar alternative?
[16:23] <MagBo_> meowe
[16:24] <carlinm> hello fellas! iv just bought an ati hd6790, but ubuntu refuses to give me more than 1280x1024 resolution. On ati site theres no driver for linux on this board, and the ati drivers on synaptic are installed
[16:25] <bekks> raven: There is none, for console use.
[16:25] <soreau> carlinm: You should try the open radeon driver which was the default before you installed fglrx
[16:26] <jgrosch> hello, quick question. xubuntu 11.10 - I have added a user using adduser but when I "su - <user>" I get no dir found. any suggestions ?
[16:26] <carlinm> hmm. ill remove then soreau
[16:26] <bullgard4> dr_willis: 'Exec=rxvt-unicode -geometry "700x900+100+100"' produces a full-size window. (My display screen has 1680 x 1050 pixels.)
[16:27] <carlinm> via synaptic? on the alternative drivers applet theres nothing shown
[16:27] <meomic> hey ppl, is it normal for flash to use whole cpu for just playing a 480p video at youtube? - it uses whole cpu and its about 6, 10, 24 fps (moving like crazy) - i was ignoring it - but i have this for some time already, my pc is core2duo notebook ibm thinkpad r61 nvidia quadro 140m
[16:27] <Fever> jgrosch: Have to looked in /home if there is any home dir for the new user?
[16:28] <pfifo> meomic, right click on the player and disable hardware acceleration
[16:28] <meomic> did already
[16:28] <jgrosch> yes, there is. The permissions and ownership looks right and /etc/passwd and /etc/group also look correct
[16:28] <xangua> meomic: yes, flash sucks
[16:28] <glda19> how can help me to share a directory by samba and swat
[16:28] <meomic> but it worked like 3-4 months ago
[16:28] <meomic> now i cant watch fullscreened 360-480p video lol
[16:29] <meomic> windowed -- still can.... (still uses whole cpu)
[16:29] <Fever> jgrosch: But you can login with the new user?
[16:29] <gnomerlocker0077> What does this mean: "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch" ?
[16:29] <xangua> meomic: fact = adobe plugin sucks on linux
[16:29] <bekks> gnomerlocker0077: That the file was downloaded, but the checksum is wrong.
[16:29] <jgrosch> I've not tried that only "su -" Let me giv tat a try
[16:29] <pfifo> gnomerlocker0077, that means the published checksum doesnt match the checksum of the file you downloaded
[16:30] <gnomerlocker0077> pfifo: And what am I suppose to do about it?
[16:30] <meomic> xangua: yes but im using ubuntu for a year or so already, and it stopped to work like 3? months ago... (i think with 11 flash player)
[16:30] <pfifo> gnomerlocker0077, do a apt-get clean and apt-get update
[16:31] <meomic> before i was able to watch 1080p at youtube - fullscreened i had like 18 fps or so
[16:31] <gnomerlocker0077> pfifo: Thanks.
[16:31] <meomic> and now i cant even 360p lol
[16:32] <jgrosch> Fever: Could not chdir to home directory /home/cindy: Permission denied
[16:32] <anand> hello
[16:32] <jgrosch> /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/cindy/.Xauthority
[16:32] <jgrosch> -bash: /home/cindy/.bash_profile: Permission denied
[16:33] <Fever> jgrosch: And the ownership for both candy and /home looks ok?
[16:33] <arcsky> hello, it says on the ubuntu website 32bits are recommended, ist any issus with the 64bits ?
[16:33] <jgrosch> drwxr-xr-x   2 cindy     cindy      4096 2011-11-12 08:15 cindy
[16:33] <pfifo> arcsky, use 64bit if your hardware supports it
[16:33] <bekks> arcsky: None to my knowledge. I havent been using 32bits for almost ten years now.
[16:33] <arcsky> ok thanks
[16:33] <cYmen_> How do I find out which encryption cipher cryptsetup used by default in a specific version of ubuntu?
[16:34] <jgrosch> Fever: drwxr-xr-x   2 cindy     cindy      4096 2011-11-12 08:15 cindy
[16:34] <meomic> arcsky: from what i heard with new release 64bits will be recommended as default
[16:34] <Fever> jgrosch: And what is the permission on /home?
[16:34] <meomic> arcsky: but im using it also and had no problems
[16:34] <jgrosch> Fever: ah! drwx------  16 jgrosch jgrosch  4096 2011-11-12 08:15 home
[16:35] <pfifo> cYmen_, I think aes has been the standard for quite some time now. Per haps you should get an old install CD and install an older version, and see whats in /etc/crypttab
[16:35] <Fever> jgrosch: There we go ;)
[16:35] <jgrosch> Fever: TANKS!
[16:35] <Fever> jgrosch: No problem
[16:37] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[16:37] <kamilnadeem> a friend of mine is has posed this question to me "Was there something done to linux kernel that it does not recognize PS3EYE as audio input? I tested it on Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10. It worked without any problem in old releases of Ubuntu.Video is still working without problem."
[16:38] <xangua> kamilnadeem: looks like you answered yourself ;)
[16:38] <kamilnadeem> how xanuga ?
[16:39] <pfifo> kamilnadeem, to answer the question, you get to read the changelogs for the kernel, have fun!
[16:39] <kamilnadeem> surry xangua
[16:39] <ubuntu> test
[16:39] <jost> hi
[16:39] <deborah> Hello everyone
[16:39] <kamilnadeem> *sorry xangua but how>
[16:40] <kamilnadeem> Is there a solution to his problem ?
[16:40] <deborah> I know this sounds like a silly question but what is command to pull up nautilus file manager in root mode ?
[16:40] <pushpop> how do I found out whats locking this file.  I can't apt-get install Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:40] <pfifo> deborah, `sudo nautilus`
[16:41] <xangua> kamilnadeem: well what you said looks like you have no issues, i don't understand "It WORDED without any problem in old releases of Ubuntu.Video is STILL WORKING without problem."
[16:41]  * edwardthefma has a awsom idea for ubuntu
[16:41] <edwardthefma> i need some thoughts befor i submit it
[16:41] <jost> I've got a problem with smb shares here. If i try to mount a share from a win xp machine, it gives me the error: "mount error: could not resolve address for <servername>: Unknown error". But if I check known smb shares with smbtree or smbclient -L <servername>, this share is correctly shown. Other shares on the same machine don't work either.
[16:42] <jost> any hints?
[16:42] <ikonia> jost: can you resolve it at a dns level ?
[16:42] <pfifo> pushpop, `lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock`
[16:42] <jost> ikonia, how to test that?
[16:42] <ikonia> jost: ping it ?
[16:42] <ikonia> jost: (does it map a hostname to IP ?)
[16:42] <cYmen_> pfifo: Okay, found it..
[16:42] <pushpop> pfifo, didnt work
[16:42] <glda19> who used samba to share a directoy on a ubuntu vista network
[16:42] <cYmen_> pfifo: Cryptsetup is not by default compatible with the version in 10.04LTS. An encrypted disk set up under 10.04LTS will fail to properly mount under maverick. This is because, as documented in the /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/NEWS.Debian.gz, defaults have changed. So to mount a disk which was created in 10.04LTS with cryptsetup, in 10.10 you must specify the cipher as such: cryptsetup -c aes-cbc-plain create h /dev/sdb1 (622762)
[16:43] <ikonia> glda19: I use it
[16:43] <jost> ikonia: no it doesn't seem to (ping <servername> does not work, at least)
[16:43] <ikonia> jost: that's your issue,
[16:43] <pfifo> pushpop, it may be a stale lock, try deleting the file
[16:43] <ikonia> jost: put an entry in the /etc/host file to map an IP to hostname, or fix your dns server
[16:43] <glda19> ikona how can i make a share to my music directory on a extenal hd
[16:43] <ikonia> (dns setup)
[16:43] <ikonia> glda19: same way as a local hard disk
[16:43] <Decerebrado> Hi! I'm having trouble tring to install a ProLink PlayTV Cinema A2200 on Ubuntu 10.04
[16:43] <Decerebrado>  I can't find the right modprobe options
[16:44] <glda19> ikonica how
[16:44] <ikonia> !samba | glda19
[16:44] <pfifo> cYmen_, I recommend, once you get it open, making a backup and converting to LUKS
[16:44] <jost> ikonia, ok, i'll try that. But why is the server correctly shown when using smbtree or smbclient -L?
[16:44] <ikonia> jost: it's picking up the netbios
[16:44] <carlinm> what happens when i simply install fglrx via synaptic?
[16:44] <ikonia> jost: (nmb - not smb)
[16:45] <bekks> carlinm: Which Ubuntu do you use?
[16:45] <carlinm> 10.04.03 lts 32
[16:46] <cYmen_> pfifo: Yeah, makes sense, and changing the cipher as well...
[16:46] <carlinm> hmm nothing much, now i have the ati catalyst, but have no driver. aticonfig cant find one
[16:47] <carlinm> is there more than the fglrx via synaptic that contains such drivers? ati site gives me none
[16:48] <Nebo_> hi all!
[16:48] <Nebo_> whazzuuuup? :D
[16:48] <glda19> ikonia hox did you do it
[16:48] <Nebo_> who's using linux-backtrack?
[16:49] <yeats> !backtrack | Nebo_
[16:49] <noodlr> hi
[16:49] <Decerebrado> am I asking in the wrong channel??
[16:49] <carlinm> i got this in lspci 05:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 673e
[16:49] <yeats> Decerebrado: possible that no one knows the answer - I certainly  don't ;-)
[16:50] <Nebo_> nono. I love ubuntu :D it's support channel? where i can talk? :D
[16:50] <pfifo> Decerebrado, your in the right channel, but noone seems to know. try providing more details
[16:50] <kamilnadeem> Sorry my connection dropped.
[16:50] <Decerebrado> anyone knows the v4l channel.... maybe it's #v4l??
[16:50] <xangua> !alis | Decerebrado
[16:50] <noodlr> Is it possible to run Vista, freebsd and Fedora 16 as triple-boot? Vista obviously takes up one primary partition, I think freebsd takes up 3 and I'm not sure if Fedora can be installed outside of a primary partition.
[16:51] <kamilnadeem> so is there any solution to the prob I mentioned ?
[16:51] <Decerebrado> thanks!!
[16:51] <xangua> noodlr: yes, it is posible
[16:51] <pfifo> noodlr, you should add solaris and make it a quad-boot ;)
[16:51] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[16:52] <pfifo> noodlr, afaik, bsd dosent need 3 partitions, nor does it need a primary partition
[16:53] <jost> ikonia, thanks for the help :-)
[16:53] <benlebovitz> hi folks... I'm trying to install 11.10 here, but having problems
[16:54] <noodlr> pfifo, I can't get hold of a copy of Solaris. isn't it discontinued?
[16:54] <benlebovitz> I'm actually typing to you now from it running on a USB drive
[16:54] <melvster1> when i run an app from dash, how do i find out the underlying command line command?
[16:54] <pfifo> noodlr, http://www.oracle.com/webapps/dialogue/ns/dlgwelcome.jsp?p_ext=Y&p_dlg_id=10784440&src=7391354&Act=8&sckw=WWMK11087511MPP001.GCM.9021
[16:54] <benlebovitz> but, when I click to install I get "no root file system is defined"
[16:55] <noodlr> pfifo, I tried creating 'slices' for its /, /usr and swap partitions outside of the primary partitions (I installed Fedora and Vista first) and it wouldn't take... just couldn't get it to install.
[16:55] <kamilnadeem_> Sorry My Internet connection is giving me a hard time :(
[16:55] <kamilnadeem_> so is there any solution to the prob I mentioned ?
[16:56] <smile4ever> http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-8-simulator-sneakily-promotes-ubuntu ;)
[16:56] <melvster1> got it
[16:56] <melvster1> gksu nautilus /usr/share/applications
[16:56] <noodlr> ooh! pfifo, my wife's gonna hate you ... I think that'll take up my weekend (whatever remains of it after freebsd)
[16:57] <smile4ever> gksu pcmanfm /usr/share/applications ! :p
[16:57] <pfifo> noodlr, good luck i could never get solaris to work :(
[16:57] <smile4ever> :(
[16:57] <peepsalot> so synaptic is replaced with software center?  how do you force an update with software center
[16:57] <smile4ever> But why use Solaris if you can use Linux ;)
[16:57] <smile4ever> peepsalot: just install synaptic again :D
[16:57] <smile4ever> sudo apt-get install synaptic ;)
[16:58] <Pilif12p> how do i remove a ppa that's not in sources.list ?
[16:58] <peepsalot> heh, fair enough
[16:58] <pfifo> smile4ever, solaris and java love eachother
[16:58] <Pilif12p> and i don't want to grep through the entire drive to find it
[16:58] <smile4ever> yeah, that's true ;)
[16:58] <smile4ever> but i hate java :D
[16:58] <smile4ever> too slow :p
[16:59] <smile4ever> pilif12p: maybe software sources @synaptic? ;)
[16:59] <smile4ever> :)
[16:59] <benlebovitz> hi guys, I"m getting a "no root file system is defined" when trying to install 11.10 from a USB flash
[16:59] <benlebovitz> any advice?
[16:59] <smile4ever> partition your hard drive? :)
[16:59] <smile4ever> with gparted :p
[16:59] <smile4ever> and than try again
[16:59] <smile4ever> :)
[16:59] <peepsalot> synaptic doesn't work http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/736398/
[17:00] <kamilnadeem_> A friend of mine is having a problem , this is what he asked me "Was there something done to linux kernel that it does not recognize PS3EYE as audio input? I tested it on Fedora 16 and Ubuntu 11.10. It worked without any problem in old releases of Ubuntu.Video is still working without problem."? , sadly it is above my knowledge level. It would be great if you guys can provide some help.
[17:00] <smile4ever> peepsalot: hmm :|
[17:00] <xangua> Pilif12p: sudo ppa-purge "ppa's name" , to remove all related packages of that ppa nad the ppa itself
[17:00] <Pilif12p> ok
[17:00] <peepsalot> i'm in gnome3 shell btw
[17:00] <benlebovitz> hmm... don't want to partition really
[17:01] <xangua> kamilnadeem_: helo about what¿¿ it WORKED on old releases ans STILL WORK without troubles¿¿
[17:01] <peepsalot> any other gnome shell users able to use synaptic in 11.10?
[17:01] <xangua> help about*
[17:01] <smile4ever> peepsalot: try to open software centre and reinstall synaptic from there :)
[17:01] <Randolph> no problem with synaptic actually
[17:01] <Randolph> on 11.10
[17:01] <jita> Which kde fonts does the default 11.10 uses ?
[17:01] <xangua> jita: it uses the 'ubuntu' font
[17:02] <ubuntunoob> how do you exit outof changelogs ?
[17:02] <xangua> ooh kde, no idea jita
[17:02] <peepsalot> Randolph, do you use unity or gnome shell.  i wonder if it's specific to shell because it's saying something about themes
[17:02] <Randolph> peepsalot, Unity
[17:02] <jita> xangua, i mean when i run qt based apps like skype, which font does it use for that ?
[17:02] <ubuntunoob> in terminal
[17:02] <kamilnadeem_> xangua on his UBuntu 11.10 PS3eye's mic is not working while it has worked with the previous releases of Ubuntu
[17:02] <xangua> peepsalot: gksu synaptic is the comand, not just synaptic, it uses administrative privileges
[17:03] <peepsalot> xangua, i tried "sudo synaptic" in that same pastebin
[17:03] <hirogen2> hi
[17:04] <xangua> jita: like i said no idea, you want to configure the fonts of qt apps on gnome¿  install qt4-qtconfig and configure them with it
[17:04] <noodlr> pfifo, thanks, I'll be back to report on my progress (or lack thereof) tomorrow, no doubt.
[17:04] <ubuntunoob> how do i exit out of changelogs  in terminal ???
[17:04] <hirogen2> can i d/l ubuntu to format and install of a usb stick for a reletively old asus mobo, but new sata hd ?
[17:04] <xangua> peepsalot: i sauid kgsu, not sudo
[17:04] <xangua> gksu
[17:04] <peepsalot> xangua, it doesn't make a difference
[17:04] <xangua> ...
[17:04] <jita> xangua, actually i have installed lubuntu and i want the qt applications to use the same font which it uses in ubuntu 11.10 by default :(
[17:05] <xangua> jita: like i said, you can configure them with qt4-qtconfig
[17:05] <ubuntunoob> hirogen2: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[17:06] <jita> xangua, only if i know which font ubuntu uses for qt4 apps
[17:06] <ubuntunoob> anyone know how to exit changelogs in terminal????
[17:07] <ubuntunoob> for sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:07] <hirogen2> cheers
[17:08] <ubuntunoob> can anyone help pls
[17:08] <ubuntunoob> i needto know how to exit terminal changelogs
[17:08] <jost> ubuntunoob, try typing q
[17:09] <ubuntunoob> ok
[17:09] <glda19> who use samba to share a directory between ubuntu and vista
[17:09] <ubuntunoob> jost: tyvm!!!! that did it
[17:09] <Guest88818> can anyone tell me how the hell can i change server and port?
[17:09] <Guest88818> loool
[17:10] <Guest88818> never been on irc in linux XD
[17:10] <pfifo> glda19, I do (well ubuntu and 7)
[17:11] <compdoc> glda19, me too (ubuntu and 7)
[17:11] <smile4ever> Guest88818: depending on your chat client :)
[17:12] <glda19> pfifo, can you tel me how you did it
[17:12] <pfifo> Guest88818, /server hostname:port
[17:12] <Guest88818> irc.barafranca.comthx
[17:12] <Guest88818> lol
[17:12] <pfifo> glda19, I followed a tutorial the first few times
[17:12] <glda19> pfifo,  what tutorial
[17:12] <AlissonB> hello, someone has managed to install the network card AR8152 (wired)
[17:13] <glda19> compdoc, can you tel me how to do it
[17:13] <pfifo> glda19, well I dont know which one I followed, but here is an ubuntu specific tut https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html
[17:14] <compdoc> glda19, to make it easy, you can add a user with the same name as your windows user, and then set permissions on the folder youre sharing to something other than root
[17:14] <compdoc> glda19, do you know how to use pastebin?
[17:15] <glda19> why did i need pastebin
[17:15] <raven> tightvncserver and access on display 1 - d key minimizes windows and no rights to do anything on the screen - whats going on there?
[17:15] <compdoc> to show me your smb.conf file
[17:16] <glda19> i do it to morow
[17:16] <raven> tightvncserver and access on display 1 - d key minimizes windows and no rights to do anything on the screen - whats going on there?
[17:17] <andi3> hi, I'm trying to make ubuntu live cd/dvd with build-live. Build with the config below fails with missing packages: synaptic, gnome-themes, menu etc... Config line is Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package. Afaik oneiric moved to build-live so it should work?
[17:17] <andi3> lb config -p gnome --mode ubuntu --distribution oneiric --architecture i386 --security false -m http://localhost/ubuntu
[17:17] <AlissonB> hello, someone has managed to install the network card AR8152 (wired)
[17:18] <Hilikus> how can i see what files a process is accessing? more specifically writing
[17:18] <arcsky> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso does that work for Intel aswell?
[17:18] <xangua> arcsky: yes
[17:18] <arcsky> thx
[17:18] <loucard> y'a des francais ici
[17:19] <llutz> Hilikus: fuser
[17:19] <pfifo> Hilikus, us lsof
[17:19] <xangua> !fr | loucard
[17:19] <loucard> ok
[17:19] <ubuntunoob> also  i have another question,  i an getting this weird unhandled lockdown -3  error when i try to plug my ipod touch 2g in
[17:19] <ubuntunoob> to the computer
[17:20] <ubuntunoob> would upgrading usbmuxd fix that ??
[17:21] <bekks> ubuntunoob: No.
[17:21] <charminthemoose> Can anyone recommend an app that lets you cycle through windows, if the window manager doesn't provide such functionality?
[17:22] <ubuntunoob> bekks: my ipod touch 2g has 3.1.3 custom firmware
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> charminthemoose: ccsm does that
[17:22] <ubuntunoob> ios 3.1.3
[17:22] <Nacho11231> hello
[17:22] <ubuntunoob> whited00r
[17:22] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Did you download the firmware using itunes?
[17:22] <Nacho11231> anyone know how to run btnx with xbmc?
[17:23] <charminthemoose> ActionParsnip: I'm not looking to run compiz. I'm running lwm as my window manager.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> charminthemoose: i see
[17:23] <andi3> need help with build-live, lb config and lb build, can you help?
[17:23] <bekks> andi3: Then ask a specific question please.
[17:23] <ubuntunoob> bekks: nope its a custom jailbroken firmware http://www.whited00r.com/
[17:24] <ubuntunoob> i restored it with itunes tho
[17:24] <bekks> ubuntunoob: Then I'm out of support :)
[17:24] <andi3> bekks: what to put after lb config to build ubuntu oneiric ?
[17:25] <ubuntunoob> bekks: weird thing is, it works on my intel iMac  but not my powerpc eMac
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Nacho11231: there are xbmc apps for android and iphone :)
[17:25] <andi3> bekks: I tried with http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-live@lists.debian.org/msg05673.html, but is failint to locate live-boot
[17:26] <bekks> ubuntunoob: And both Macs are running Ubuntu?
[17:27] <Markive> Hi Helpers, can someone tell me how to change my screen res? I tried to run "barrage" and now the rez is huge..
[17:27] <bekks> Markive: Logout, log back in.
[17:27] <Markive> thanks bekks
[17:27] <Markive> i'm try
[17:27] <Markive> i'll*
[17:27] <ubuntunoob> bekks: yep
[17:30] <Markive> Hi Bekks, i've just upgraded and i can't find a logout button! I want to restart it , but I don't know how
[17:30] <bekks> Markive: Open a terminal and type: sudo reboot
[17:30] <compdoc> Markive, can you open a term window?
[17:30] <Markive> is there not a button?
[17:31] <compdoc> there should be
[17:31] <trism> Markive: if in unity, the top right corner should have a menu, the shutdown option has both restart and shutdown once you click it
[17:32] <Markive> not sure what its in trism.. sorry, the quick bar is up the left hand side though..
[17:33] <Markive> i'm missed alot since used this side of the duel boot.,..
[17:33] <trism> Markive: which ubuntu version is this?
[17:33] <Markive> 11 something
[17:33] <Markive> just updated today
[17:33] <kram92> hi all , got a small question about monitor (12v 4amp. ) as my power supply busted and i would like to use a 15v 4 am powersupply, will this work out or harm my monitor in the long run?
[17:33] <Markive> from maybe 3 months ago
[17:34] <bekks> kram92: That doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu :)
[17:34] <Markive> the gui doesn't look like it did.
[17:34] <Markive> hence I can't find the reboot menu..
[17:34] <meomic> about that flash speed playback - i just discovered that underfirefox i cant even play 480p video and under chrome i can play 1080p video at 30 fps what the f....
[17:34] <bekks> kram92: And unless it still meets the requirements of your monitor, you'll bust it.
[17:34] <kram92> it does if i like to run ubuntu :-)
[17:35] <edwardthefma> i need help
[17:35] <bekks> kram92: No.
[17:35] <kram92> thnx,
[17:35] <edwardthefma> im trying to chmod var/www
[17:36] <edwardthefma> but i cant cd to the dir
[17:36] <bekks> edwardthefma: Why not?
[17:36] <edwardthefma> my linux noob ness
[17:36] <yeats> meomic: try flash aid: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[17:37] <edwardthefma> i try cd var
[17:37] <edwardthefma> no go
[17:37] <edwardthefma> :(
[17:37] <bekks> edwardthefma: Why do you want to change the permissions then?
[17:37] <bekks> cd /var/www should work fine.
its not letting my edit the files in that folder
[17:38] <edwardthefma> lol i for got the /
[17:38] <edwardthefma> XD
[17:38] <bekks> edwardthefma: Thats not a valid reason, unless you do know very well what you are doing and which security risks will arise.
[17:39] <meomic> in firefox i had option checked - se video acceleration whenever possible -turned off and i have 30 fps at 1080p under firefox .... zzzzz
[17:40] <bc81> hey all.  i'm trying to boot this old p4 computer (running xubuntu 10.10 ) with no monitor connected into a widescreen resolution (1360x768).  if i boot with the monitor connected, the highest resolution i can set is 1024x768...any ideas on this?
[17:40] <jdavis> I have a reproducible crash in evolution. How do I report the bug most effectively? I tried ubuntu-bug, but when it attaches to a running process it tries to send the report before I can reproduce the problem.
[17:40] <compdoc> bc81, sounds like that old video card doesnt know about widescreen
[17:41] <stephan_> hello. can i just install via the package "hibernate" to hibernate? suspend already works OOTB.
[17:42] <bc81> compdoc: yea it's odd, when i boot with the monitor (which is actually a tv @ 1360x768) it works fine.  as soon as i boot without a monitor (to access it through VNC) it's maxed out @ 1024x768
[17:42] <bekks> edwardthefma: Ask in here please, not in a unasked query.
[17:42] <bekks> 25
[17:42] <bekks> gna.
[17:42] <Liam__> Howdy.
[17:42] <compdoc> bc81, how can you tell what the rez is without a monitor?
[17:42] <bekks> compdoc++ :)
[17:42] <bc81> compdoc: xrandr
[17:42] <Liam__> What graphics card do you have compdoc?
[17:43] <compdoc> ask bc81
[17:43] <linelevel> Hi guys. I have both Windows and Ubuntu installed on my laptop. Under Windows, the internet works fine on my home network. Under Ubuntu, it disconnects often, though other, stronger connections still work fine. My question is: Is a wireless amplifier likely to help?
[17:43] <bc81> Liam__: there's no GFX card, it's just intel chip
[17:43] <bekks> bc81: That IS a graphics card.
[17:43] <Liam__> @linelevel Go into your router and turn the channels down.
[17:43] <bekks> bc81: Without it, you could not connect a display device.
[17:44] <compdoc> he means its a built-in video card
[17:44] <bc81> bekks: that's symantics, and irrelevant to the issue
[17:44] <bekks> bc81: Thats relevant to the issue. How can you change the resolution with a display device?
[17:45] <bekks> *without :)
[17:45] <compdoc> there is a display device - no need to get anal
[17:45] <bc81> bekks: umm..i not sure you're understanding the problem..
[17:46] <_joey> how do I find another mirror for this archive? - http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/partner
[17:46] <bekks> bc81: How do you start the VNC session then?
[17:48] <bc81> bekks: server is vino-server, client is vinagre
[17:48] <scizzo-> I am planning to reinstall my server but I have lvm partitioning on it and want to backup to the lvm partitions however I am wondering if I can mount that partitioning after the reinstall? I do not want to loose any data on that partition. Its separate drives though so shouldn't be a problem?
[17:49] <bekks> bc81: I guess you have to configure vino then, or use a real vnc server.
[17:49] <ft_mn> Hi, I have messed up things with the bootloader, I have one Hard Disk splited into two partitions one of them is NTFS(windows) and the other one is ext4(Ubuntu)... Now I cant boot from none of them, so I have an Ubuntu live cd booting from... The thing is that even with the Live cd I cant install grub to one of my partitions what can i do?
[17:49] <bekks> scizzo-: You should backup all data before.
[17:49] <scizzo-> bekks: to a non lvm drive?
[17:49] <bekks> scizzo-: To whatever - to a device you are not reinstalling :)
[17:50] <bc81> bekks: but that's still irrelevant to the problem.  the problem is not the VNC server, but in trying to find a way to force the computer to boot into a widescreen resolution
[17:50] <bc81> bekks: and for future reference, might you recommend to me a "real" vnc server?
[17:50] <compdoc> bc81, vnc4server
[17:50] <iExist> ft_mn, grub has been uninstalled?
[17:50] <LSymonds> Have you edited your xorg.conf @bc81
[17:50] <scizzo-> bekks: hmmm but if I have a sda (non lvm) and sdb (lvm) should that really create a problem?
[17:51] <bekks> scizzo-: If you are afraid of loosing data then create a backup.
[17:51] <ft_mn> iExist now it is on the Ubuntu partition
[17:52] <ft_mn> iExist no*
[17:52] <bekks> bc81: tightvncserver e.g.
[17:52] <_calum> can I make a complete backup image of my ubuntu including bootloader using the "dd" command?
[17:52] <bekks> _calum: yes.
[17:52] <ikonia> _calum: sure,
[17:53] <iExist> ft_mn, open a command line, mount the ubuntu-partition,
[17:53] <glda19> who can i share a directory by samba
[17:53] <bekks> I'd recommend mbuffer instead of dd.
[17:53] <bc81> LSymonds: ok, i will try that..i looked but it seems to have moved since previous version of ubuntu
[17:53] <ikonia> glda19: did you read the document I gave you
[17:53] <bekks> ikonia: Obviously not ;)
[17:53] <_calum> so I have a bootloader from ubuntu, it will back that up so I can still boot into windows 7?
[17:53] <glda19> ikonia what doc
[17:53] <ft_mn> iExist ok...
[17:53] <LSymonds> locate xorg.conf
[17:53] <ikonia> !samba | glda19
[17:54] <LSymonds> @bc81 /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[17:54] <bekks> _calum: just booting wont affect the bootloader.
[17:54] <_calum> sorry what I meant to say is if I restore the backup it won't delete my windows 7 from the bootloader
[17:55] <ft_mn> iExist what is next ?
[17:55] <iExist> ft_mn, which grub version was installed? you can see in #ubuntu-partition/sbin/grub*???
[17:55] <bc81> LSymonds: i don't find that file there, xubuntu 10.10 it must have moved
[17:55] <LSymonds> Ah, you're using xubuntu 10.10
[17:55] <LSymonds> @bc81 - Type find xorg.conf
[17:55] <LSymonds> In terminal ofc.
[17:56] <ft_mn> iExist there is no such a grub folder in the sbin directory.... only in the boot/ directory there is grub
[17:56] <bc81> LSymonds: no such file or direct.
[17:56] <_calum> thanks bekks and ikonia
[17:56] <Olotila> is there a command line text editor with windowslike shortcutkeys?
[17:57] <pfifo> bc81, by default there is no xorg.conf
[17:57] <iExist> ft_mn, ls  #ubuntu-part/sbin/grub*
[17:57] <LSymonds> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ?
[17:57] <Olotila> ctrl-c copies, ctrl-v pastes?
[17:57] <Olotila> and if not, how can i make one?
[17:57] <Olotila> can i program Nano that way?
[17:57] <ikonia> Olotila: not really,
[17:57] <pfifo> Olotila, ctrl+c has a special purpose in comman line programs
[17:58] <dougl> what's new?
[17:58] <pfifo> Olotila, use ctrl+ins and shift+ins
[17:58] <ft_mn> iExist: No such file or directory
[17:59] <Olotila> pfifo: thanks, iää try that
[17:59] <Olotila> how about marking text?
[17:59] <pfifo> Olotila, well if you dont have mouse support then ctrl+k and ctrl+u
[17:59] <Olotila> can shift with arrows work?
[18:00] <LSymonds> In cli, Cntrl+C ends the current process.
[18:00] <daeos> I determined that I did not allocate enough space for applications on my computer when installing ubuntu and now need to reassign the mount point for /usr how can I do this in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:00] <moes> Lucid 10.04..Firefox-3.6.24...Firefox will not shutdown properly..Have to use pkill to resuse firefox in same session ??
[18:00] <LSymonds> @daeos sudo apt-get install gparted
[18:01] <LSymonds> Or just use gparted.
[18:01] <pfifo> Olotila, im not sure if nano has marking (it should) but I know for sure emacs has some great cut/copy/paste options and a very nice clipboard setup
[18:01] <Olotila> but Nano does something else with ctrl-c
[18:01] <ft_mn> iExist: is there something on the grub.cfg file that might help?
[18:01] <LSymonds> You don't still use emacs @pfifo?
[18:01] <Olotila> you can check it
[18:01] <ft_mn> I think that all i need is to install grub properly on the MBR
[18:01] <daeos> LSymonds: I have allocated 64GB on another drive to be used for the space needed but am not sure how to change the mount point for /usr
[18:01] <pfifo> LSymonds, yes, I use emacs when I dont have gui
[18:02] <LSymonds> Oh right, @pfifo. What about when you have a gui? ;)
[18:02] <ft_mn> iExist,  I think that all i need is to install grub properly on the MBR... I have a small partition that I can dedicate it to grub but i dont know how to do it
[18:02] <daeos> LSymonds: is it similar to moving /home to a seperate hdd/partition?
[18:02] <pfifo> LSymonds, leafpad/mousepad for simple stuff and geany for IDE
[18:02] <LSymonds> I think so @daeos
[18:02] <LSymonds> Ah yes.
[18:03] <Olotila> i do fine with new commands, but how about all the people coming from Windowsworld?
[18:03] <Olotila> why make it so hard to use text editor?
[18:03] <LSymonds> Most things can be done from the GUI?
[18:03] <Olotila> why not same keys?
[18:03] <LSymonds> You don't have to?
[18:03] <iExist> ft_mn, you can run grub-install --sthinglikeroot=
[18:03] <LSymonds> gksudo gedit /dir/filename.whatever
[18:03] <glda19> ho can help me to share a directory with samba
[18:03] <pfifo> Olotila, people coming from the windows world need to sit down and learn the terminal, or stick with gui
[18:04] <daeos> LSymonds: could this all be automated through a gui app? or am I stuck doing it in console?
[18:04] <compdoc> glda19, many ppl here can, but you have to do the work
[18:04] <KittyBunny> Hello i'm planning on watching a DVD with a load of friends tonight but Ubuntu isn't detecting my disc drive, why?
[18:04] <iExist> ft_mn, if you had grub2-install (from the livecd) you could ran: grub2-install --boot-directory=#ubuntu
[18:04] <glda19> what must i do compdoc
[18:04] <compdoc> have you installed samba?
[18:05] <ft_mn> iExist: it doesnt have grub2
[18:05] <Olotila> pfifo: why?
[18:05] <iExist> ft_mn, just a sec
[18:05] <glda19> compdoc yes and also swat
[18:05] <charminthemoose> Can anyone answer this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1837541.html Why can't the window panels detect the open windows and hide/unhide them?
[18:05] <KittyBunny> Hello i'm planning on watching a DVD with a load of friends tonight but Ubuntu isn't detecting my disc drive, why?
[18:05] <ft_mn> iExist: Sure!
[18:05] <compdoc> glda19, I dont know swat. I need to see your /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[18:05] <pfifo> Olotila, in my opinion you should be forced to learn screen, irssi and (vim or emacs) before your allowed to run linux
[18:06] <KittyBunny> Hello i'm planning on watching a DVD with a load of friends tonight but Ubuntu isn't detecting my disc drive, why?
[18:06] <Olotila> pfifo: why?
[18:06] <jwtiyar> why we didnt yet get ff 8 ?
[18:06] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[18:06] <iExist> ft_mn, grub-install --root-directory=/#ubuntu/boot  /dev/sda maybe
[18:06] <glda19> where can i post i compoc
[18:06] <rufsketch1> I'm trying to set up a mysql server
[18:06] <pfifo> Olotila, cause the knowledge is very useful to new users
[18:06] <Olotila> pfifo: why not make it really easy to come to linux?
[18:06] <hirogen> tried to install ubuntu but its asking for sata drivers .
[18:06] <ft_mn> iExist: Ill give it a shot
[18:06] <ft_mn> iExist Thanks man!
[18:06] <iExist> ft_mn, then tell me ;D
[18:07] <KittyBunny> Hello i'm planning on watching a DVD with a load of friends tonight but Ubuntu isn't detecting my disc drive, why?
[18:07] <rufsketch1> but everytime I try to login using mysql -u root it says  Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[18:07] <glda19> where can i post it compdoc
[18:07] <compdoc> pastebin
[18:07] <llutz> rufsketch1: mysql -u root -p
[18:07] <rufsketch1> llutz, when I do that it prompts me for a password
[18:07] <pfifo> Olotila, For the same reason it would be difficult for a linux user to learn windows at first (if such a person exists)
[18:08] <rufsketch1> llutz, no matter what password I enter, it gives me the same error as before except (using password: YES)
[18:08] <llutz> rufsketch1: enter mysql-administrator password
[18:08] <KittyBunny> Hello i'm planning on watching a DVD with a load of friends tonight but Ubuntu isn't detecting my disc drive, why?
[18:08] <daeos> LSymonds: http://askubuntu.com/questions/656/how-to-move-usr-to-a-new-partition  | would this link be useful in 11.10 still?
[18:08] <rufsketch1> llutz, I did
[18:08] <Klojum> default password for mysql is no password...
[18:08] <Olotila> pfifo: well it surely is possible to make Nanolike prog in windows with windowsuniversal keys
[18:08] <rufsketch1> llutz, I even reset the mysql root pass to be sure, but no dice.
[18:08] <glda19> compdoc, where can i post my samba.conf
[18:08] <Olotila> pfifo: thats what i really wonder
[18:08] <rufsketch1> llutz, unless you mean something else by mysql-administrator password.
[18:09] <compdoc> glda19, pastebin.com
[18:09] <Linuxlainen> hi all, how can I get my remote control recognized as IR remote and not a mouse/keyboard ?
[18:09] <moes> Lucid 10.04..Firefox-3.6.24...Firefox will not shutdown properly..Have to use pkill to resuse firefox in same session ??
[18:09] <Olotila> pfifo: why is such thing not done
[18:09] <milen8204> Hello all, How can I modify my background to change the pictures?
[18:09] <Linuxlainen> I tried to have it ignored in hal, but that didn't help
[18:09] <Olotila> pfifo: why not use the knowledge you allready have in new os
[18:09] <rufsketch1> milen8204, you can google that easily
[18:09] <pfifo> Olotila, well technically, windows dosent have a commandline editor that has ctrl+c and ctrl+v either
[18:09] <iExist> milen8204, you can right click
[18:10] <iExist> milen8204, or google
[18:10] <iExist> milen8204, ;)
[18:10] <glda19> compdoc, http://pastebin.com/S7phkWHT
[18:10] <Linuxlainen> I also tried to teach it the buttons, but that didn't work eaither
[18:10] <Olotila> pfifo: thats true, i guess, but it is not as important in windows
[18:10] <iExist> milen8204, most of the answers already exist
[18:10] <Linuxlainen> currently only couple of buttons work in the remote
[18:10] <Linuxlainen> any help?
[18:10] <pfifo> Olotila, linux has many gui editors that support ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[18:10] <compdoc> glda19, so muziek is what you want to share?
[18:11] <glda19> Commander1024,
[18:11] <eron> Hey guys, I have read through pages of info about changing file permissions but I'm unable to even find the file tree for a mounted .iso, when I try to run the setup.exe file I get this message "The file '/home/eron/.gvfs/sr-soaset.iso/Setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied form an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit." Where should I look to figure out this issue?
[18:11] <Olotila> pfifo: so the reason would be that it is not needed, well that may be true
[18:11] <glda19> compdoc, yes but that is on my external hd on the partion Documenten and in directory muziek
[18:11] <Olotila> pfifo: cant believe it would be a humongous job
[18:12] <Linuxlainen> any one could help with this?
[18:12] <Olotila> pfifo: to reconfigure about 20 most used shortcutkeys and call it a new program
[18:12] <helder_raptor> i have installed python 3.2.2 on live ubuntu 11.10 running from a USB stick the module sqlite3 doesnot work. How to make it work?
[18:12] <moes> Lucid 10.04..Firefox-3.6.24...Firefox will not shutdown properly..Have to use pkill to resuse firefox in same session ??
[18:13] <helder_raptor> a dude in #python said to me its an ubuntu bug
[18:13] <pfifo> Olotila, nano is a GNU clone of a program called pico which was invented before windows
[18:14] <compdoc> glda19, what are the permissions on the folder muziek?
[18:14] <_calum> right, I executed dd if=/dev/sda6 of=~/ubuntubackup.img. There's drive activity but no progress bar, is it working?
[18:14] <helder_raptor> i have installed python 3.2.2 on live ubuntu 11.10 running from a USB stick the module sqlite3 doesnot work. How to make it work?
[18:15] <hirogen> ubuntu installation is asking for sata drivers, argh
[18:15] <dragonHack> is it easy to install ubuntu, I tried years ago and it was a nightmare but mabey it is better now
[18:15] <glda19> compdoc, drwx------
[18:16] <compdoc> glda19, who is the user?
[18:16] <compdoc> on the directory
[18:16] <pfifo> _calum, you want to add noerror and fsync to that, otherwise a badblock will ruin it
[18:16] <helder_raptor> i have installed python 3.2.2 on live ubuntu 11.10 running from a USB stick the module sqlite3 doesnot work. How to make it work?
[18:16] <glda19> compdoc what did you mean
[18:16] <helder_raptor> a dude in #python said to me its an ubuntu bug
[18:16] <helder_raptor> how to rectify it?
[18:17] <pfifo> _calum, read this, it offers `pv` to display a progress bar http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html
[18:17] <compdoc> glda19, open a term window, and type:  gksu nautilus
[18:17] <ikonia> helder_raptor: how did you install it
[18:17] <compdoc> glda19, then use nautilus to get properties on the folder
[18:17] <_calum> pfifo:By default, does dd not show progress?
[18:17] <ikonia> helder_raptor: (python 3.2.2)
[18:18] <helder_raptor> ikona: ys...from tarball
[18:18] <pfifo> _calum, you can, kill -USR1 `pidof dd`
[18:18] <apwbdjp> _calum, No, it only shows progress when sent USR1 signal
[18:18] <ikonia> helder_raptor: ok - the problem is not ubuntu, the problem is you've not built it correctly, and sqlite is linked against the wrong version of python.
[18:18] <_calum> right, thanks
[18:18] <charminthemoose> Can anyone answer this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1837541.html Why can't the window panels detect the open windows and hide/unhide them?
[18:18] <trism> jdavis: late reply, you can enable apport (sudo service apport start force_start=1;) and then try to reproduce the crash, an apport dialog should pop up, or you can run apport-bug against the file in /var/crash/
[18:18] <milen8204> iExist, I have a script that change some pictures, but in Ubuntu 11.10, can not find the way to set it like background. In Ubuntu 10.04 you can choose to view all file types and when you choose the html type fail to be your background , all is OK
[18:19] <helder_raptor> ikona: i followed the readme
[18:19] <ikonia> helder_raptor: that doesn't change what I just said
[18:19] <helder_raptor> ikona: and did just as it said
[18:19] <ikonia> helder_raptor: why do you want that version of python rather than the one packaged with ubuntu ?
[18:19] <glda19> compdoc, i get a new window
[18:19] <ikonia> helder_raptor: you shouldn't be building software unless a.) you have a reason b.) you understand what you're doing
[18:19] <ikonia> glda19: did you read the document I gave you, yes/no
[18:19] <glda19> yes
[18:19] <iExist> milen8204, i don't know
[18:19] <ikonia> glda19: what's the issue then
[18:20] <ikonia> glda19: why do you keep asking the same question if you've read the document I gave you
[18:20] <iExist> milen8204, you can disable the desktop alltogether though
[18:20] <helder_raptor> ikona: actually i am a newbie and the book i m going on with has 3.2.2
[18:20] <helder_raptor> do
[18:20] <iExist> milen8204, through gconf-editor
[18:20] <ikonia> helder_raptor: the version ubuntu ships with will be fine
[18:20] <helder_raptor> ikona: so unwillingly i had to use it
[18:20] <glda19> compdoc, but that is not the problem on my vista i see the folowing \\ubuntu\muziek
[18:20] <ikonia> helder_raptor: you don't have to use it, the version ubuntu ships with will be fine
[18:20] <ikonia> glda19: why do you keep asking the same question if you've read the document I gave you
[18:21] <daeos> how can I move my /usr to a new partition? I am seeing a few howtos that say not to use cp as it will not correctly create symlinks and im not sure how to use rsync to make sure that they are properly duplicated.  Any suggestions on a detailed 'howto' ?
[18:21] <ikonia> daeos: why do you want to ?
[18:21] <milen8204> iExist, ok thanks for the help
[18:21] <_calum> second question, with the nmap ping scan, is it possible to send packets for a certain length of time, e.g. 30 seconds?
[18:21] <ikonia> daeos: there are ramifications if you change it
[18:21] <iExist> milen8204, it's nautilus
[18:21] <jwtiyar> why we didnt yet get ff 8 ?
[18:21] <Jonii> Hey, when a man page or other sort of help page says "read thistutorial(3)", what does that mean?
[18:21] <helder_raptor> ikona: still can u guide me to build it correctly?
[18:21] <iExist> milen8204, or it was :P
[18:21] <ikonia> helder_raptor: no, you should use the version ubuntu ships with
[18:22] <compdoc> glda19, so whats the problem?
[18:22] <ikonia> glda19: if you have read the document I gave you detailing samba, - what is the issue, why do you keep asking the same question if you've read the document ?
[18:22] <apwbdjp> Jonii, it means that you should this the page "thistutorial" of secction 3. Done by "man 3 thistutorial"
[18:22] <SDr> hi
[18:23] <SDr> how important is it to have a separate master SSH key for each box I'm root on?
[18:23] <daeos> ikonia: I installed ubuntu on a single partition including /usr to fit all into a 12gb space.  I want to assign /usr 60gb instead of the limits it has now
[18:23] <glda19> compdoc,  i told you the share that i see on vista is \\ubuntu\muziek and that is not wright
[18:23] <Jonii> apwbdjp: you should this the page?
[18:23] <ikonia> daeos: thats VERY big for /usr
[18:23] <ikonia> glda19: why do you keep asking the same question if you've read the document I gave you
[18:23] <ikonia> glda19: please answer the question
[18:23] <compdoc> glda19, whats wrong with that?
[18:24] <milen8204> iExist, I have put the folder in /usr/share/background, but how to make the Ubunto 11.10 to use the script  as a background ?
[18:24] <helder_raptor> ikona: thnks
[18:24] <apwbdjp> Jonii, you should read / take a look. Sorry, tired.
[18:24] <glda19> ikonia and cmpdoc i told it twice now
[18:24] <daeos> ikonia: I don't want to run out of room with all of the programs I want to install .. I suppose I could remove ones I don't use but it limits me greatly
[18:24] <ikonia> daeos: I can't see /usr ever being anywhere near 60GB
[18:24] <ikonia> glda19: no - why do you keep asking the same question when how to set it up is detailed in the document I gave you, that you said you read
[18:24] <ikonia> glda19: did you read the document ?
[18:24] <apwbdjp> Jonii, point is the parenthesis is the section where you should look, which you can specify as a first argument to man.
[18:24] <_calum> does the ping command only work with tcp or can you send using udp?
[18:25] <Jonii> Oh, cool
[18:25] <ikonia> daeos: managing space is sensible, but 60GB for /usr is way way way too big,
[18:25] <iExist> milen8204, i'm not in ubuntu;)
[18:25] <ikonia> _calum: ping is tcp
[18:25] <daeos> ikonia: well I made a 60gb partition to be ready for this .. any suggestions on what to do with it? (its not really needed then)
[18:25] <glda19> ikonica why did you repeate it and repeated again yes
[18:25] <Jonii> Finally I understand what's that all about
[18:25] <ikonia> glda19: because you've not answered it
[18:25] <ikonia> daeos: could you pastebin the output of "df -h" and lets have look how it's laid out
[18:25] <_calum> ikonia: Apparently nmap can ping over udp or is that a different scan?
[18:25] <ikonia> _calum: that's not ping
[18:26] <_calum> ah
[18:26] <jwtiyar> why we didnt yet get ff 8 ?
[18:26] <apwbdjp> Jonii, you might notice the difference between man printf (which sends you to section 1) and man 3 printf (which gives the C function manual)
[18:26] <milen8204> iExist,  ok thanks I will continue to google it ;D
[18:26] <_calum> ICMP uses TCP only I guess?
[18:26] <iExist> milen8204, ok@_@
[18:26] <ImTheDude> how do i change the splash screen on boot up on ubuntu
[18:26] <ImTheDude> ?
[18:26] <mustafa> I was installing Ubuntu Restricted Extras, and after the download was finished and during the installation my PC rebooted. And it appears that the microsoft true fonts installer didn't install the fonts probably. So I tried removing the package then reinstalling it to fix the fonts installer but still with no luck.
[18:27] <moes> Lucid 10.04..Firefox-3.6.24...Firefox will not shutdown properly..Have to use pkill to resuse firefox in same session ??
[18:27] <ta> yes
[18:27] <ta> it is almost
[18:27] <glda19> ikonia i see the share muziek on vista but when i click on it ive got network fault \\ubuntu\muziek. But on ubuntu it is \media\documenten\muziek
[18:28] <ikonia> glda19: that's a file system path against a share name - it's explained in the document I gave you
[18:28] <glda19> compdoc, read what i say to ikonia
[18:28] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[18:28] <mustafa> How can I completly remove the ubntu-restricted-extras and redownload it as if it was my first time. To get the true fonts installer run correctly?
[18:28] <_calum> hi OliveGreen
[18:28] <Jonii> So can you access other sections without that man {2, 3, ...} thingtolookat ?
[18:28] <ikonia> glda19: //server/share is the reference to /local/file/system - it's explained inthe document
[18:28] <compdoc> glda19, /msg me - its too hostile in here for you
[18:28] <ImTheDude> i want to change the splash screen on my ubuntu how do i change it?
[18:28] <daeos> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/rMP98PUF
[18:28] <OliveGreen> Has Firefox 8  been added to the Ubuntu main repos yet?
[18:28] <pfifo> mustafa, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure ttf-mscorefonts-installer`
[18:28] <ikonia> o	no
[18:29] <ikonia> OliveGreen: no
[18:29] <OliveGreen> ikonia, not yet?
[18:29] <ikonia> OliveGreen: no
[18:29] <mustafa> pfifo: ty :)
[18:29] <OliveGreen> ikonia, so is it a good idea to install it through the Mozilla ppa?
[18:29] <ikonia> daeos: ok - what are /media/ubuntu-soft and /media/Storage holding ?
[18:29] <ikonia> OliveGreen: no
[18:29] <ikonia> OliveGreen: it's a good idea to wait for it to get released
[18:29] <glda19> compdoc what did i have to msg you
[18:30] <Jonii> Hey, can you make it so that the screen doesn't lock for a while, but so that it's only temporary?
[18:30] <charminthemoose> Can anyone answer this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1837541.html Why can't the window panels detect the open windows and hide/unhide them?
[18:30] <Jonii> Like, "don't lock the screen the next hour" or something like that?
[18:30] <_calum> Ubuntu 11.10 is awesome by the way :)
[18:31] <mustafa> pfifo: It doesn't work, when I keep following the instruction and leaving the filds blank which suits my situation. It just quits and nothing has changed.
[18:31] <daeos>  /media/Storage is a 1TB drive that I share between my ubuntu and windows boots as storage.  Mainly its an NTFS drive for win7 and other junk.  I peeled 60GB off of it to create /media/ubuntu-soft to be created into /usr
[18:31] <glda19> ikonica what is the link to the file you give
[18:31] <Jonii> I'd change it from screen settings, but it's temporary and I have to remember to change it back, which I most likely forget
[18:31] <ikonia> glda19: I've gave you 3 times and you said you'd read it, you should have it
[18:31] <pfifo> mustafa, then try `sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer && sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer`
[18:31] <OliveGreen> ikonia, released? Firefox 8 has officially been released about a couple days ago (as far as I know).
[18:32] <glda19> i don't have it any more
[18:32] <ikonia> OliveGreen: yes, but ubuntu has not packaged and released it yet
[18:32] <apwbdjp> Jonii, there was an applet for Gnome-Panel that used to inhibit all power management stuffs.. but I don't know if that's still up.
[18:32] <daeos> ikonia: forgot to put yourn ame.. I replied above
[18:32] <OliveGreen> ikonia, I see.
[18:32] <ikonia> daeos: yes, I just saw it
[18:32] <glda19> !samba
[18:33] <OliveGreen> ikonia, Thanks for your time. :-)
[18:33] <ikonia> daeos: ok, I would suggest instead of copying /usr over to /media/ubuntu-soft, you copy over / to ubuntu-soft and use that as your root partition
[18:33] <ikonia> daeos: 60GB for /usr will be wasted, 60GB for / would be better
[18:34] <Jonii> _calum: 11.10 is pretty neat, yes. I used to like Windows better, but for my netbook installing 11.10 was the best decision I've yet made
[18:34] <mustafa> pfifo: Thanks, that worked =) Is there a way to make sure all other packages in "ubuntu-restricted-extra" were installed correctly? If I am missing something out?
[18:34] <moes> Lucid 10.04..Firefox-3.6.24...Firefox will not shutdown properly..Have to use pkill to resuse firefox in same session ??
[18:35] <pfifo> mustafa, `sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-restricted-extras` might work
[18:35] <daeos> ikonia: Ok, I was trying to think of how that would affect bootup as I have ubuntu installed on the same drive as windows is, but only 12gb available to it. When you say to copy / to the new partition.. would that not in effect mean that the system would then be booting off my storage drive?
[18:36] <_calum> Jonni: I installed U11.10 alongside my windows 7. I like WIndows 7 but Ubuntu looks awesome, runs well and I feel clever using it :)
[18:36] <ikonia> daeos: is the storage drive an internal drive ?
[18:36] <mustafa> pfifo: Last question, are the unsupported update (oneiric-backports) checked by default?
[18:36] <pfifo> mustafa, personally i dont use the extras metapackage, its better to install only what you need from it
[18:37] <pfifo> !pin | mustafa
[18:37] <mustafa> pfifo: Ah, that might be easier. The download package is hugs and my bandwidth is limited. ty =)
[18:37] <daeos> ikonia: it is, but wouldn't this defeat the purpose of "what if the drive that linux runs off of fails" ? I was trying to keep windows and linux on 1 drive and storage on another..
[18:37] <ikonia> daeos: well, if you put /usr on a seperate drive and that drive fails, your system is useless and won't boot, so it's the same issue
[18:38] <_calum> all I gotta do is wait for people to say cool you have a Mac, then say nah its Ubuntu :)
[18:38] <daeos> ikonia: ah! so maybe then my best bet is to reinstall ubuntu and just reformat hdd 1 removing windows and ubuntu , allocate 20GB for windows later to reinstall on and use 40 for ubuntu?
[18:39] <ikonia> daeos: that would be a technically easier option
[18:40] <daeos> ikonia: I don't really have any attachments to the windows install and it wouldn't hurt me.. the only pain is the wait for the updates or the download of another install cd
[18:40] <rue_shop3> how do I reconfgiure X?
[18:40] <ikonia> daeos: that's a good attitude, you'll find it easier to that
[18:41] <daeos> ikonia: ok then! when i have more time, I'll do that instead, thanks!
[18:41] <_calum> Whats the best way to prevent malware attacks on Ubuntu? Update regularly and be cautious with root?
[18:41] <ikonia> _calum: malware doesn't work on ubuntu like it does on windows
[18:41] <ikonia> _calum: just use approved software repositories and apply common sense to what you are doing
[18:42] <pfifo> _calum, the best way is to not install software from untrusted sources or PPA's
[18:42] <fully_human> Hello.  For the longest time Ubuntu hasn't recognized my multimedia keys or brightness control keys (just about all the fn-keys that control system functions).  Anyone know how to have Ubuntu "recognize" them?
[18:42] <fully_human> I have a Toshiba Satellite.
[18:42] <jdavis> trism: thanks. I got the backtrace manually and attached it to the ticket, but I'll do that next time.
[18:42] <Jonii> ikonia, as far as I know there are viruses and malware that do attack linux-systems
[18:42] <ikonia> Jonii: no, not in the same way as windows
[18:42] <_calum> pfifo:So on ubuntu I can't get infected by going to an unknown website and it running code, e.g windows drive by?
[18:43] <pfifo> Jonii, that software dosent get in the repo's
[18:43] <ikonia> _calum: that same code would be worthless
[18:43] <Jonii> ikonia: "same way as windows" = "exploiting weaknesses in popular programs and system services to run your own software in someone elses computer"?
[18:43] <pfifo> _calum, no, atleast ive never had any problems
[18:43] <ikonia> Jonii: no, the techniques are not the same
[18:44] <moes> Lucid 10.04..Firefox-3.6.24...Firefox will not shutdown properly..Have to use pkill to resuse firefox in same session ??
[18:44] <Jonii> ikonia, how so?
[18:44] <_calum> what if a linux exploit was hosted on the site? Or is that very unlikely?
[18:44] <ikonia> Jonii: do a google search and read about the linux permissions model and kernel/user space
[18:44] <ikonia> _calum: it's not, it doesn't work like that - as I said, it's not the same as windows.
[18:45] <pfifo> _calum, I have only seen 1 linux exploit in the 10 years I have used linux, and it didnt cause any permant damage
[18:45] <Jonii> ikonia: I've read that. It presented a case for why there's an additional layer of security in Linux. An additional layer =/= safe
[18:45] <ikonia> Jonii: read more then
[18:45] <Jonii> It's safer, which is good, but not safe
[18:46] <_calum> reason for me asking is there was yet another critical windows vulnerability. Thy keep coming :(
[18:47] <_calum> they*
[18:47] <Jonii> There are, not to my knowledge, no entities on this planet that can produce software big as OS that is guaranteed to prevent an attacker from gaining control of the system
[18:47] <ikonia> _calum: don't worry about it, just apply common sense to what you are doing and you will have no issues
[18:47] <ikonia> Jonii: please stop talking generally
[18:47] <ikonia> there are exploits, but you can't protect against them in the same way as Windows due to the security model, it's a different approach .
[18:47] <pfifo> _calum, they are very rare, and chances are youll never be affected by one of the few that do pop up
[18:48] <_calum> thanks
[18:48] <ikonia> _calum: there are serious security vunerabilities, Linux machines do get compromised and exploted, however, it's not by visiting a web page
[18:48] <Jonii> ikonia: that's all I can do. I know enough about computers to figure that "safe from viruses and attacks" is false, but I'm not sure how much truth does that falsehood contain
[18:48] <ikonia> Jonii: I've just told you the truth
[18:48] <_calum> most of the hacked linux are probably running weak ssh services though?
[18:49] <ikonia> _calum: no, they are software flaws, but "you" as a user won't be able to do anything about that
[18:49] <ikonia> _calum: but you as a user also won't cause them visiting web pages etc
[18:51] <K-4U> How can i manually update my subversion server on Ubuntu 11.04 to 1.7?
[18:51] <_calum> thanks for the reassurance :)
[18:51] <erpo> I think my ecryptfs home directory is corrupted. Every time I log out and back in, one of my files gets replaced by a bunch of newlines. When I try to access that file, I get ecryptfs errors in the dmesg output. Is there an fsck for ecryptfs?
[18:51] <ikonia> K-4U: use the packages available in the repo to get to the latest available repo
[18:51] <K-4U> ikonia: Yeah, there is no new package :P
[18:51] <ikonia> erpo: you have to decrypt it, then check it normally
[18:51] <ikonia> K-4U: stick with that version then
[18:51] <K-4U> ikonia: not an option.
[18:51] <Technicus> Hello . . . I am maintaining an installation of 11.04 and trying to configure the power management options to hibernat after 30 minutes rather than sleep. With Power Management Preferences the only option is to configure for sleep when inactive after time, but my preference is to hibernate.  This machine is not able to wake from sleep, but it can hibernate with tuxonice and it wakes properly.
[18:51] <ikonia> K-4U: why ?
[18:52] <K-4U> ikonia: Because all the clients have been updated, and i want to go with the new version
[18:52] <ikonia> K-4U: why do you want to go with the new version ?
[18:52] <ikonia> K-4U: the clients are backware compatible
[18:53] <pfifo> K-4U, have you searched for a PPA?
[18:53] <ikonia> I would not use a PPA
[18:53] <K-4U> ikonia: Well, no. My laptop just updated to 1.7, and i need to recreate the entire svn in order to use that again
[18:53] <K-4U> pfifo: is there one?
[18:53] <ikonia> K-4U: the SVN version does not affect how the repo is created,
[18:53] <erpo> ikonia: I can't find the base file in /home/.ecryptfs/erpo/.Private due to file name encryption. Any ideas how to proceed?
[18:53] <ikonia> K-4U: you can use the same repo exported and imported into an older version
[18:53] <ikonia> erpo: no
[18:54] <K-4U> ikonia: Well, app. not..
[18:54] <ikonia> K-4U: you can
[18:54] <ikonia> K-4U: what is the version you currently have ?
[18:54] <_calum> dd command is taking quite a while.
[18:54] <ikonia> _calum: it will take a very long time
[18:54] <K-4U> ikonia: 1.6.12.. and i really want to update it..
[18:55] <ikonia> K-4U: why do you want to update it @?
[18:55] <ikonia> K-4U: what is the reason / driver for this ?
[18:55] <pfifo> K-4U, i dont recommend a PPA either, but you can always try https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=subversion+1.7&field.actions.search=Search
[18:55] <ikonia> K-4U: you're going to break your package / library compatability support for what reason ?
[18:55] <_calum> ikonia:Is that because its copying every byte of the ubuntu partition exactly?
[18:55] <ikonia> _calum: yes
[18:56] <K-4U> ikonia: well.. why not? The clients have the new version? Why should it not be stable if we are already at 1.7.1?
[18:56] <j-v-e> is there a way to make unity remember the dimension of a window ? it insists on making firefox and evolution full screen every time I relaunch them
[18:56] <pfifo> _calum, how big is the partition?
[18:56] <ikonia> K-4U: I didn't say it wasn't stable, however changing it for no reason is madness
[18:56] <K-4U> ikonia: sorry, but that is the only thing i´m starting to hate about ubuntu, allways 3 steps behind..
[18:56] <_calum> pfifo:Around 100gb I think
[18:56] <ikonia> K-4U: people who think that are normally fools chasing version numbers for no reason
[18:57] <glda19> compdoc
[18:57] <K-4U> ikonia: i´m changing it for the pure reason that all of my clients have updated and can no longer connect to the server.
[18:57] <pfifo> _calum, yes thats going to take a very long time, even longer since it appears you didnt set an optimal block size
[18:57] <ikonia> K-4U: the clients are backward compatible and will have no problem talking to a .6.12 server
[18:57] <_calum> looking at a couple of hours?
[18:57] <ikonia> easy
[18:57] <pfifo> _calum, overnight
[18:58] <bobweaver> Hi there I was wondering if there is a hurd image of ubuntu at all ? or if there is a team or anything? Is ubuntu looking at the hurd ?
[18:58] <ikonia> bobweaver: no
[18:58] <bobweaver> thanks ikonia
[18:58] <ikonia> bobweaver: there was unoffiical project ports
[18:58] <K-4U> ikonia: well that is not what i´m seeing here. But anyway, apperantely you think it is impossible..
[18:58] <ikonia> K-4U: I don't think it's impossible at all
[18:58] <ikonia> K-4U: try listening to what I'm saying to you
[18:58] <bobweaver> ikonia:  links ?
[18:58] <apwbdjp> _calum, you can do on another terminal watch "kill -USR1 `pidof dd`"
[18:59] <ikonia> K-4U: it's totally possible, however it is a.) pointless b.) going to break library and binary package manager compatability for SVN and linked libraries
[18:59] <pfifo> bobweaver, the hurd project page has qemu images for debian and ubuntu
[18:59] <apwbdjp> _calum, that'll make dd display its progress every 2 seconds, just so you know where you are.
[18:59] <_calum> does it need root?
[18:59] <apwbdjp> _calum, if dd has been done by sudo, then yes it might.
[18:59] <ikonia> K-4U: if you have upgraded the clients, they will talk to 1.6 servers without any problems at all
[18:59] <aliquis> Hi! I'm a Ubuntu n00b, having run OS X up until now. I installed Ubuntu a couple of days ago but today I got a kernel panic. After restarting the computer and logging on the account I found out that the settings were messed up. The Nautilus menu was present on the screen but nothing else, so I went into text mode to remove the .gnome2 and .gconf directories. I rebooted once more and then everything worked. How can I find out what I did wro
[18:59] <aliquis> ng? And how can I more easily recover if this happens again, without losing my settings?
[19:00] <bobweaver> thanks pfifo I am using that one on vbox right now have to say that I am impressed. That is why I am wondering about ubuntu.
[19:01] <_calum> apwbdjp: I get ERROR: garbage process ID "dd".
[19:01] <Technicus> Is there a power management gui that provides more comprehensive adjustments than 'Power Management Preferences' gui?
[19:01] <pfifo> bobweaver, really you want to use the debain ports, its further along, ubuntu is for the masses. If your adventurous try the archlinux port
[19:02] <apwbdjp> _calum, alright to this instead: watch killall -USR1 dd
[19:03] <_calum> thanks, it worked
[19:04] <_calum> so far its copied 64 GB
[19:04] <moes> Lucid 10.04..Firefox-3.6.24...Firefox will not shutdown properly..Have to use pkill to resuse firefox in same session ??
[19:05] <apwbdjp> _calum, then you're doing good, I believe
[19:05] <_calum> 65 now :)
[19:06] <arcsky> anyone got a asrock ion2 3d htpc?
[19:07] <unixtippse1> ubuntu stinkt
[19:07] <decodito> buenas noches gente
[19:08] <mod> Since the video drivers that come with 11.10 suck for Sandybridge (even with edgers), is there a way to reset/restart the video drivers without having to reboot?
[19:08] <_calum> what is the killall for in that command? Just asking
[19:08] <ikonia> mod: no, X needs to be restarted
[19:09] <pfifo> mod, shutdown X and then rmmod your modules, then maybe modprobe a different module, then restart X
[19:09] <mod> bleh
[19:09] <pfifo> ikr
[19:10] <mod> logging out should restart X ...
[19:10] <milen8204> iExist, I have changed the file /usr/share/backgrounds/contest/background- 1.xml whit my script and the pictures are changing and they are mine pictures :D
[19:10] <ft_mn> !user a
[19:10] <mod> ikr?
[19:10] <mod> i know right?
[19:10] <pfifo> yeah
[19:10] <ft_mn> hi im running on live cd and i want to install grub to the one of my partitions how s possible?
[19:11] <mod> hwh
[19:11] <mod> er heh ;)
[19:11] <yashi-> im trying to get DECENT 3d power...ive got a ati hd4800 and heroes of newerth is lagging hardcore.i installed the fglrx driver.
[19:11] <mod> ft_mn, use grub-install
[19:11] <pfifo> !grub | ft_mn
[19:12] <ft_mn> !grub
[19:12] <urlin2u> ft_mn, why a partition?
[19:13] <yashi-> im trying to get DECENT 3d power...ive got a ati hd4800 and heroes of newerth is lagging hardcore.i installed the fglrx driver, and im PRETTY sure its used
[19:13] <pwnguin> how do i get the clock to show time without clicking on it?
[19:13] <ft_mn> urlin2u I have a NTFS(win7) and a ext4(Ubuntu), Im not good with Windows but I need it at the moment... Never the less, bootloader doesnt 'see' Ubuntu, thats why I want grub
[19:13] <Galvatron> ft_mn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:13] <ikonia> ft_mn: you need grub to boot ubuntu
[19:14] <rhizmoe> has there been an update to the nvidia driver since oneiric dropped?
[19:14] <ErtanERBEK> Hi Everyone
[19:14] <ft_mn> ikonia: I know but i have a hard time to install GRUB while im booting from the live CD
[19:14] <_calum> HI
[19:14] <ikonia> !grub2 > ft_mn
[19:14] <_calum> Hi*
[19:14] <urlin2u> ft_mn, is this a partitioned install of ubutnu or a wubi install which would ubuntu installed from windows?
[19:15] <Galvatron> yashi-: For proprietary AMD drivers best use the dedicated #ati channel
[19:15] <ErtanERBEK> I have one problem for Ubuntu 11.04 with Dual Monitor diffrent resulation
[19:15] <ErtanERBEK> could you help me ?
[19:15] <ft_mn> urlin2u: its a diferent partition!
[19:15] <ft_mn> a partition for is OS
[19:16] <ft_mn> urlin2u: a partition for each OS
[19:16] <urlin2u> ft_mn, so what do you see when you power on a grub menu or a windows boot menu?
[19:16] <pfifo> ft_mn, what exactly is not working when you try to repair grub?
[19:16] <arcsky> i got issues when installing an NVIDIA driver. does anyone maybe understand this: http://pastebin.com/jJRD4AgZ
[19:16] <ErtanERBEK> This is my problem picture link " http://postimage.org/image/839ajg4rf/ "
[19:16] <yashi-> Galvatron: thanks
[19:17] <pfifo> arcsky, make sure X is not running when you install
[19:17] <ErtanERBEK> If I use Dual monitor with diffrent resulation then Ubuntu can't set my desktop icon
[19:17] <Galvatron> arcsky: You must turn off X-server to install nVidia's proprietary drivers
[19:17] <ft_mn> pfifo: I dont see GRUB at all while im booting. it gets straight to the windows (bootloader)
[19:17] <fully_human> So, I'm trying to have my multimedia and function keys work in Ubuntu; the only problem is that Ubuntu doesn't detect when I press them.  Even with "showkey -s" the key doesn't show up.  Anyone know why this happens?
[19:17] <urlin2u> ft_mn, did you install windows last?
[19:17] <johnnychimpo> you need to get boot repair
[19:18] <pfifo> ft_mn, then you should reinstall grub
[19:18] <dr_willis> and its normally better to try the nvidia drivers in the repos first
[19:18] <ft_mn> pfifo: How to reinstall Grub if i cant boot from the UBUNTU!!!?!?!?
[19:18] <johnnychimpo> use a live cd, install boot repair.  it will fix it.  did this yesterday
[19:18] <dr_willis> fully_human:  check the output of 'dmesg' after you hit some of the keys the first time. it may give a clue/command to use to try to activate the keys
[19:18] <arcsky> pfifo: ok how can i logout from X ?
[19:19] <fully_human> dr_willis: I did that, too...It didn't detect a key.
[19:19] <pfifo> ft_mn, by booting a livecd and following these instructions  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[19:19] <Galvatron> arcsky: You do so with "sudo service gdm stop" (lightdm for 11.10, kdm for Kubuntu etc".
[19:19] <pfifo> arcsky, sudo service gdm stop
[19:19] <ft_mn> pfifo: ill check this
[19:19] <ft_mn> thanks
[19:20] <ft_mn> johnnychimpo: where can i get this from
[19:20] <urlin2u> ft_mn, just notice in that link that your not installing grub to a partition, but to the mbr the master boot record the grub files for the partition are already there.
[19:20] <Galvatron> arcsky: To get back to X, use "start" instead of "stop"
[19:20] <johnnychimpo> you can get it from the software center when you boot up with the ubuntu live ce
[19:20] <arcsky> pfifo: Galvatron gdm: unregonized service
[19:20] <pfifo> arcsky, sudo service lightdm stop
[19:21] <johnnychimpo> no wait.  you have to install it thru terminal
[19:21] <fully_human> Anyone know how to get Ubuntu to detect a key was pressed?
[19:21] <johnnychimpo> hold on
[19:21] <Galvatron> arcsky: What system exactly do you have?
[19:21] <charminthemoose> Can anyone answer this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1837541.html Why can't the window panels detect the open windows and hide/unhide them?
[19:21] <johnnychimpo> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[19:21] <johnnychimpo> sudo apt-get update
[19:21] <johnnychimpo> sudo apt-get install boot-repair-ubuntu
[19:22] <dr_willis> fully_human:  i would check the forums for your exact pc/keyboard model and see what others say.
[19:22] <ft_mn> Ill check these THank you
[19:22] <pfifo> fully_human, see it xev can detect the keys
[19:22] <johnnychimpo> run live cd, run those in terminal and the you runn the app
[19:22] <arcsky> Galvatron: hw?
[19:22] <arcsky> Galvatron: asrock 3d ion2
[19:22] <DexterF> hoi
[19:22] <johnnychimpo> http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/06/install-boot-repair-in-ubuntu-1104.html
[19:23] <Galvatron> arcsky: Ubuntu version... <facepalm>
[19:24] <fully_human> pfifo: Nope, sorry. :(  Keys I need aren't detected.  Not even in showkey.
[19:24] <DexterF> replaced a brokes soundblaster 10k1 with a USB audio adapter. works a charm on win7 (dual boot) but nothing on ubuntu. in the mixer I notice there is the motherboard's Nvidia HDA listed tho disabled in BIOS, no clue why it's there at all. suspect HDA might be the first card, but how would I check?
[19:24] <nightwalkerkg> Hi evryone.
[19:24] <pfifo> fully_human, open a terminal and run `xev`
[19:24] <Travis-43> since upgrading to ubuntu 11.10, my battery icon does not always appear in the top right. how do I fix this?
[19:24] <nightwalkerkg> I need help with my display drivers and monitor,can anyone help me?
[19:24] <fully_human> pfifo: I did that...they aren't detected.
[19:25] <glda19> ho can help me to set up a samba share between ubuntu and vista
[19:25] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: state what problem you have and what you tried so far.
[19:25] <_calum> thanks people, I'm off, bye
[19:25] <pfifo> fully_human, then do as dr_willis said and check fourms and google, its liekly that your keyboard isnt fully supported
[19:25] <nerd> ciao
[19:26] <fully_human> pfifo: Yeah, I've been searching, too. :/
[19:26] <nerd> :list
[19:26] <fully_human> Is there a way I can possibly contribute to help get my keyboard supported?
[19:26] <Galvatron> !question|nightwalkerkg
[19:26] <fully_human> (One of the joys of open source :) )
[19:27] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF Before the reinstallation i tried almost evrything i could find on the interent.The problem is my monitor is unknown and i have only 2 possible resolutions avalable.
[19:27] <pfifo> DexterF, alsamixer -c0 OR  alsamixer -c1
[19:27] <huhBigg> hello
[19:27] <elgaton> !list | nerd
[19:27] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: well, ok, but: *what* is the problem? :)
[19:28] <nightwalkerkg> The resolution 1024x768 is small,i need a biger one.
[19:28] <nerd> ciao
[19:28] <ImTheDude> how do i change my splash screen in ubuntu
[19:28] <ErtanERBEK> re hi everyone, could you help me ? how set my desktop icon with dual monitor diffrent resolation on Ubuntu 11.04
[19:28] <arcsky> Galvatron: ubuntu 11.10
[19:28] <pfifo> !it | nerd
[19:28] <DexterF> pfifo: heh. I was diving in to /sys.... that did it, NV HDA is card0
[19:28] <sirdeiu> glda19: you should be able to browse your Vista shares from ubuntu within nautilus by going to Browse Network
[19:29] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF: Oh,also the ATI droped the support for my card and the drivers won't work.
[19:29] <DexterF> how can I disable an onboard sound device that's disabled in BIOS but still gets used?
[19:29] <ImTheDude> how do i change the splash screen in ubunu ?
[19:29] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: what card, what monitor, by what cable is the monitor connected?
[19:29] <sirdeiu> glda19: or to share some folder from Ubuntu use samba sudo apt-get install samba
[19:29] <pfifo> DexterF, youlll need to edit alsa.conf
[19:29] <Galvatron> arcsky: Then "sudo servide lightdm stop" (11.10 uses lightdm instead of gdm) and "sudo service lightdm start" tu get it back)
[19:30] <milen8204> Why I do not have screen server  settings on Ubuntu 11.10
[19:30] <glda19> Sirdieu that works but not form vista
[19:30] <pfifo> DexterF, its a real pain to do, you might be better just leaving it as is
[19:30] <arcsky> Galvatron: ok i did dpkg --configure -a and ubuntu freezed
[19:30] <sirdeiu> glda19: you need to install samba first to be able to access your Ubuntu from your Vista
[19:30] <elgaton> ImTheDude: do you mean the login screen or the splash screen that gets showed at startup?
[19:31] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF Diamond ATI Radeon 9550,LG FLATRON ez T710B and VGA.
[19:31] <martman> did dev packages break yet again? im getting "fatal error: 'stdio.h' file not found" when i compile
[19:31] <martman> of all things
[19:31] <lesnik_> hi guys!
[19:31] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: What card it that? Also, for problems with oen source ATI/AMD drivers there's a dedicated #radeon channel.
[19:31] <glda19> sirdeiu, i have installed samba
[19:31] <johnnychimpo> because screen savers are irrelevant this day and age
[19:31] <Galvatron> *open
[19:31] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron,thanks il check it.
[19:31] <johnnychimpo> i dunno either.  Their is one on ubuntu studio.
[19:31] <glda19> sirdeiu, that is the error i get Windows cannot access \\server_ip_address".
[19:31] <glda19> Error code: 0x80070035. The network path was not found.
[19:32] <nightwalkerkg> Cannot send to channel: #radeon
[19:32] <lesnik_> I'm using ubuntu 11.10. Do you know how to install wine in specified version. Let's say 1.3.22?
[19:32] <pfifo> martian, if stdio.h in /usr/include?
[19:32] <sirdeiu> glda19: can you ping server_ip_address first?
[19:32] <sirdeiu> glda19: are both machines on the same network ?
[19:32] <smile4ever> bye :)
[19:33] <glda19> sirdeiu, that is ok
[19:33] <sirdeiu> glda19: open nautilus and right click a folder to share, select Sharing Options
[19:33] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: VGA cable or 5xBNC cable?
[19:34] <glda19> i did that also
[19:34] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF: VGA cable.
[19:35] <barcef> What is the recommended UBUNTU distro for netbooks, since it appears the UNR is not longer being updated.
[19:35] <sirdeiu> glda19: any firewall blocking incoming connections?
[19:35] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: strange. check the programs in the read-edid package. check if X reads the monitor capabilites at all. if that looks good paste Xorg.0.log somewhere. pastebin.com for example
[19:36] <sirdeiu> glda19: also in your /etc/samba/smb.conf file in the [global] section set your workgroup option to the same one of your vista pc, or set the vista pc to the same workgroup as ubuntu pc
[19:36] <Danyt> ciao
[19:36] <DexterF> pfifo: thought more like "disable nv hda module". modules.d blacklist still the appropriate place?
[19:36] <Danyt> !list
[19:36] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF: can you explane how to do it,i am a new ubuntu user.
[19:36] <glda19> sirdieu that is done
[19:36] <sirdeiu> excluding firewall issues or network issues, you should be able to see both pc's when Browse(ing) the network
[19:36] <pfifo> DexterF, yes the blacklist is still respected
[19:36] <sirdeiu> either in Ubuntu or Vista
[19:36] <glioros> Guys any sugesion for VPS servers providers?
[19:37] <Danyt> !list
[19:37] <glda19> sirdieu the error on vista is Windows cannot access \\server_ip_address".
[19:37] <glda19> Error code: 0x80070035. The network path was not found.
[19:37] <sirdeiu> i saw that
[19:37] <elgaton> barcef: The normal Ubuntu release (Unity is meant for netbooks). If you use KUbuntu, there is a dedicated package (plasma-netbook).
[19:37] <elgaton> !it | Danyt
[19:37] <sirdeiu> glda19: sudo service smb status ?
[19:38] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: install the package read-edid. run the command:   get-edid | parse-edid   on a console, paste output to pastebin.com. then on a console do:  sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:38] <DexterF> paste that, too
[19:38] <pfifo> glioros, no, there are hosting providers here and it would be unfair to them to make reccomendations
[19:39] <peque_> Hi there :-)
[19:39] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF: sure thing,back in a sec.
[19:40] <peque_> I've tried to configure an email server (and I think I did everything right), but I must have done something wrong (don't know what)... Can anybody help me plz? :-)
[19:40] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: uh... which version of ubuntu, and did you install the AMD binary driver (ubuntu would have asked for sth like "do you want to install drivers for this and that card that are not part of the standard installatio" or sth like that) or are you on free drivers?
[19:40] <barcef> elgaton, I already have ocelot currently running, and it really bogs down even with unity as my interface. MP3s cut on and off with just about every app I load.
[19:40] <Galvatron> DexterF: He said AMD'd dropped support for his card, so rather open source.
[19:41] <pfifo> barcef, try lubuntu or xubuntu for something lightweight
[19:41] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF: Ubuntu 11.10 32bit and i am on the free drivers. Tried installing them before the reinstalation but the aticonfig and few other stuff didn't work with them.
[19:41] <DexterF> Galvatron: could one still install the binary and cause mayhem?
[19:41] <elgaton> barcef: There is no other specialized package - follow pfifo's suggestion.
[19:42] <elgaton> peque_: What server have you installed?
[19:42] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: ah, but you did run it - maybe there's some old cruft left? is there a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:42] <peque_> elgaton: 10.04
[19:42] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: What card is it?
[19:42] <peque_> elgaton: (Ubuntu)
[19:42] <elgaton> peque_: I mean, what e-mail server program (Postfix, qmail...)?
[19:42] <DexterF> Galvatron: radeon 95**
[19:42] <peque_> elgaton: oh, sorry, postfix
[19:42] <barcef> elgaton, pfifo, is easy peasy a viable alternative?
[19:43] <pfifo> i have no idea what that is
[19:43] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF i have a new installation of ubuntu.Reinstalled it before 15 min to start clean.Nothing is installed.
[19:43] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: ok, then I'd really check #radeon
[19:43] <elgaton> pfifo: http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[19:44] <Galvatron> DexterF: Installing AMD blob for an unsupported hardware will end up with X not working.
[19:44] <nightwalkerkg> DexterF: can't send any message to that chanel.
[19:44] <elgaton> barcef: Could be reasonable
[19:44] <pfifo> barcef, it wouldnt hurt to try, but xubuntu and lubuntu most likely have a larger community
[19:45] <DexterF> Galvatron: unless the package postinst scripts generate config files that mess with X. but since he installed clean....
[19:45] <elgaton> peque_: OK, let's start - what are you trying to set up (standalone server, relay, server with smarthost...)? Do you need any particular features?
[19:45] <delac> does anyone know if there are any scripts to convert gtkrc to gtk.css?
[19:45] <DexterF> nightwalkerkg: need to register your nick on freenode. try /msg nickserv identify... i think
[19:45] <peque_> elgaton: standalone, for now, I just want PHP mail() function to work :-)
[19:46] <Galvatron> DexterF: Anyways, pre-HD2000 cards are NOT supported in the proprietary drivers, so installing them is pointless and might even make the situation worse.
[19:46] <elgaton> peque_: First, make a backup of your /etc/postfix directory
[19:46] <peque_> elgaton: I think everything else is working (even Squirrelmail allows me to enter an account and "send" an email), but never sends anything...
[19:46] <peque_> elgaton: ok
[19:47] <elgaton> peque_: Open a terminal and issue these commands:
[19:47] <peque_> elgaton: backup done
[19:48] <elgaton> peque_: cp /usr/share/postfix/main.cf.dist /etc/postfix/main.cf
[19:48] <DexterF> Galvatron: mixing ati cards and linux *always* makes things worse...
[19:48] <elgaton> peque_: cp /usr/share/postfix/master.cf.dist /etc/postfix/master.cf
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[19:48] <elgaton> peque_: (all with "sudo" in front)
[19:48] <Galvatron> DexterF: Thats wht I switched to nVidia
[19:48] <pfifo> peque_, just for future reference, i use exim4-light for my PHP development box, its much easier to setup and use than postfix
[19:49] <peque_> elgaton: done
[19:49] <barcef> elgaton, pfifo, any favorites between lubuntu and xubuntu? I'm pretty sure between the two xubuntu probably has a bigger community since it's been around longer, right?
[19:49] <arcsky> where can i find a ppa with latest nvidia drivers?
[19:49] <ikonia> arcsky: why do you want them ?
[19:49] <peque_> pfifo: ok, perhaps for the next time (or if this doesn't work) :-)
[19:50] <DexterF> Galvatron: actually consider swicthing back since I moved video playback to a dedicated htpc and only need video here for desktop stuff on a single monitor, but for 3d? 1080p?
[19:50] <pfifo> barcef, xubuntu has many gnome libraries available, but if thats still too much for your CPU then lubuntu is even lighter
[19:50] <DexterF> arcsky: google ;) HHOS
[19:51] <elgaton_> peque_: Are you done? (I've temporarily lost my connection)
[19:51] <peque_> elgaton_: oh yeah, done with cp main and master.cf.dist
[19:51] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: Try stopping X with "sudo service gdm stop", or lightdm for 11.10, - this will turn off the X-server -  then remove the old xorg.conf with "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf", create new with "sudo X -configure" and get back to X with "sudo service gdm start".
[19:52] <elgaton_> peque_: Use dpkg-reconfigure, choose "Internet site", then follow the instructions.
[19:52] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: ok.
[19:52] <peque_> elgaton_: dpkg-reconfigure postfix?
[19:52] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: gdm: unrecognized service
[19:53] <Galvatron> DexterF: I quite don't understand the question.
[19:53] <elgaton_> peque_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[19:53] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: Then "lightdm"
[19:53] <peque_> elgaton_: http://pastebin.com/behZnWQA :-S
[19:54] <Galvatron>  nightwalkerkg: Ubuntu 11.10 uses "lightdm", not "gdm"
[19:54] <Galvatron> 		
[19:55] <elgaton_> peque_: sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf, put an # in front of the line starting with "setgid_group = "
[19:55] <elgaton_> peque_: and then try again
[19:55] <mordof> how do i get the applications to have their own menus again? i turn off Unity in compiz as i don't like it at all
[19:55] <Technicus> How can I configure Ubuntu 11.04 to hibernate instead of sleep?
[19:55] <mordof> in 11.04 when i turned unity off, the menus came back to the applications
[19:55] <mordof> but 11.10 has disabled that
[19:56] <elgaton_> mordof: Not sure - try uninstalling the indicator-appmenu package (be wary, it might break the UI)
[19:56] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: Also, if this card causes you too much trouble, simply don't waste you time for troubleshooting and geat a used 7300GT, oraz a new, recently released Zotac GT 520 PCI (not PCI-E) - the latter will give you a hardware-accelerated video playback.
[19:56] <peque_> elgaton_: same with sendmail_path ? (get the same error with this string). Also, same for any other string if this happens again?
[19:57] <mordof> elgaton_: hmm, one sec
[19:57] <elgaton_> peque_: Yes
[19:57] <mordof> elgaton_: gonna try a logout/in without unity on first
[19:57] <mordof> see if it picks up on it
[19:58] <elgaton_> mordof: OK
[19:59] <Guest65735> hello people
[19:59] <mordof> elgaton_: yeah, it works once i disable Unity and log in.. however
[19:59] <DexterF> Galvatron: as rhetorical. just pointing out that radeon is ok for desktop/office stuff but a hassle once you try 3d or acc. video
[19:59] <mordof> elgaton_: i'm left with a File / Edit / View accross the entire desktop, lol
[19:59] <mordof> elgaton_: *also* the menus no longer abide by the current Ubuntu UI theme, they use system colors... grr
[20:01] <Cataclysm> hi i have a dual boot. when i use 'locate' it only searches my host machine. how can i make it work only on my ubuntu install?
[20:01] <mordof> wow..
[20:01] <mordof> this version of Ubuntu... sucks SO bad..
[20:01] <mordof> i hate it :\
[20:01] <glioros> Guys any sugesion for VPS servers providers?
[20:01] <dcherniv> glioros, webair.com
[20:01] <arooni-mobile> how can i change the alt tab behavior so i can see all the instances of a given window as separate things i can alt tab to?
[20:02] <Cataclysm> anyone know why "locate" is only searching my host machine on my dual boot?
[20:03] <DexterF> Cataclysm: maybe updatedb.conf is set to ignore ntfs. I think I saw something like that on a fresh inst. check that.
[20:03] <Cataclysm> thanks DexterF i'll take a look
[20:03] <peque_> elgaton: what should I use for "Root and postmaster mail recipient"?
[20:03] <niyubi> hi
[20:04] <robu> How can I set up remote desktop so that a GNOME session isn't required to be active if I just want multiple users to be able to login remotely
[20:04] <Cataclysm> DexterF it only lists ntfs4 -- bad?
[20:04] <niyubi> when i use xmodmap -e "keycode 118 = Control_R NoSymbol Control_R" the control key is not set. keycode 118 is Insert. Can anybody help me?
[20:04] <elgaton> peque_: The name of your user account
[20:04] <cc77> robu, I liked using nxserver for that.
[20:04] <DexterF> Cataclysm: you sure? that not nfs4?
[20:04] <Galvatron> mordof: Ubuntu 11.04 will be supported until 12.10 goes out, so no need to hurry for a newer one, unless is has something you need very badly. To get a more classical dektop simply install "gnome-session-fallback", which looks and works almost like classic GNOME2 (it lacks some stuff, but things are under active development).
[20:05] <peque_> elgaton: ok, thanks :-)
[20:05] <Cataclysm> oops, "nfs4" there is no mention of ntfs
[20:05] <Cataclysm> many others though
[20:05] <arcsky> how do i install this with apt-get ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/285.05.09-0ubuntu1
[20:05] <mordof> Galvatron: it's not that - a bunch of stuff that i use and had set up simply *does not work* anymore with the way things are
[20:05] <mordof> Galvatron: even the desktop backgrounds are pissing me off
[20:05] <elgaton> peque_: The basic configuration should work, if you need additional features (like TLS, advanced authentication...) just look at the /etc/postfix/main.cf file, it's well commented
[20:05] <mordof> Galvatron: i hate fighting with this.. i've been doing this for a while. I'm done with ubuntu - switching distros
[20:06] <elgaton> peque_: or look at the Postfix manual or just ask :)
[20:06] <DexterF> Cataclysm: ntfs mounts are auto mounted at boot time?
[20:06] <mordof> Galvatron: moving to arch I think
[20:06] <Cataclysm> Sorry DexterF I'm not sure
[20:06] <DexterF> Cataclysm: check fstab fi your ntfs mounts have the "auto" flag
[20:07] <Galvatron> mordof: What exactly "does not work"?
[20:07] <Galvatron> mordof: What exactly "does not work"?
[20:07] <peque_> elgaton: how can I know $myhostname value?
[20:08] <sirdeiu> peque_: hostname
[20:08] <peque_> sirdeiu: great, thanks :-)
[20:08] <sirdeiu> peque_: or hostname -f for the FQDN hostname
[20:08] <mordof> Galvatron: well.. I've got an annoying menu item for the desktop.. the Theme I was using isn't entirely supported ( the menus are done differently clearly, and don't obey the old theming styles).. Half my icons are broken. The desktop background doesn't span, and it doesn't give me any options to fix it. it repeats - i'm using dual monitor and it looks awful
[20:08] <mordof> Galvatron: all these things are not crucial.. i could use it like this, but it's ugly and feels gross
[20:08] <mordof> Galvatron: Ubuntu has been feeling more and more like that every update I do because of this Unity garbage they're pushing.. i don't like it
[20:09] <Galvatron> mordof: "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback"
[20:09] <dublisk> Hi, the power turned off, and now my open office document file has size 0. When I try to open it, it says " Document file assignment.odt is locked for editing by: Unknown user"... is there anyway to recover it ?
[20:09] <mordof> Galvatron: does that run on Compiz also?
[20:10] <mordof> Galvatron: if it's not running on Compiz in the same way Unity did it won't work either
[20:10] <mordof> but i'll try it
[20:10] <Galvatron> mordof: You can use Compiz, like you could with GNOME2, but it's not obligatory for "classical" GNOME3
[20:11] <elgaton> peque_: You mean in the main.cf file? It should be automatically detected from the hostname you entered from the Ubuntu setup program
[20:11] <sirdeiu> peque_: also it can be whatever you specify in your main.cf as myhostname=value
[20:11] <mordof> Galvatron: 11.10 doesn't come with gnome 3 o.o
[20:11] <arcsky> Galvatron: how do i install this with apt-get ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/285.05.09-0ubuntu1
[20:11] <peque_> elgaton: yeah, it detected it automatically, just wanted to be sure that $hostname was what I expected :-)
[20:11] <Galvatron> mordof: It does. Unity is a shell for GNOME 3, and so is GNOME Shell
[20:12] <Cataclysm> DexterF : i used "sudo updatedb" and now it shows both host files and my ubuntu files. any easy way to disable searching on host machine?
[20:12] <elgaton> peque_: Use the hostname command if you want to double-check :)
[20:12] <mordof> Galvatron: hm.. 11.04 didn't support Gnome 3 very well, i guess they fixed that
[20:12] <Galvatron> mordof: GNOME 2 ended with Ubuntu 11.04, but it was forked and now is being developed as "Mate" desktop.
[20:13] <mordof> Galvatron: ah, ok
[20:13] <Galvatron> mordof: I know. If you have Ubuntu 11.04, then better stick to GNOME 2.
[20:13] <mordof> Galvatron: gnome-session-fallback appears to already be installed.
[20:13] <DexterF> Cataclysm: define "host" - the linux installation?
[20:13] <mordof> Galvatron: what's it under in the selection screen?
[20:13] <Cataclysm> DexterF - my WIndows install :)
[20:13] <peque_> elgaton: so, how can I test if this worked? :-)
[20:13] <Cataclysm> may i message you? this is a new install and my irc client is obnoxious DexterF
[20:13] <Galvatron> mordof: I've probably misunderstood - you have 11.04, not 11.10, do you?
[20:13] <DexterF> Cataclysm: put the windows mount point in the "prunepath" var in updatedb.conf
[20:13] <mordof> Galvatron: i just updated to 11.10, that's why i'm so annoyed, lol
[20:14] <mordof> Galvatron: but gnome-session-fallback is already installed
[20:14] <elgaton> peque_: Use a simple PHP script that will send a test mail to an address of yours
[20:14] <mordof> so i just need to select it from the login
[20:14] <Galvatron> mordof: This session should be named like "Ubuntu Claccic" or so.
[20:14] <mordof> Galvatron: ok, brb
[20:14] <elgaton> peque_: or do sudo apt-get install mailutils
[20:14] <Galvatron> mordof: Wait.
[20:14] <elgaton> peque_: and then use the "mail" program
[20:14] <mordof> Galvatron: k
[20:15] <peque_> elgaton: already have mailutils, I've tried with the PHP script, but nothing... :-S
[20:15] <DexterF> Cataclysm: well, just install xchat or konversation
[20:15] <Cataclysm> DexterF you are a gentleman and a scholar thanks so much for your help
[20:15] <Cataclysm> DexterF will do :)
[20:15] <Galvatron> mordof: To customize panels you mist hold Alt altogether with right-click
[20:15] <Cataclysm> works now
[20:15] <DexterF> Cataclysm: I've been called many things, but "gentlemen" was never amongst them :D
[20:15] <Galvatron> mordof: Now you can go.;)
[20:15] <Cataclysm> you deserve more than that! cheers
[20:15] <elgaton> peque_: Are there any ISP limitations? Have you set the firewall correctly?
[20:15] <cc77> Hi, I have problem with wireless. I followed some guides on the internet and one on from help.ubuntu.com but I can't find the package firmware-b43legacy-installer. I'm running 10.4
[20:15] <peque_> elgaton: if I try "mail": cannot open mailbox /var/mail/reset: permission denied; no mail for reset
[20:16] <peque_> elgaton: haven't configured the firewall... :-S
[20:16] <cc77> universe and multiverse are enabled in sources.list
[20:16] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: the screen went black when i typed in the command.
[20:16] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: is there any way to force the screen resolution?
[20:17] <Zeelot> anyone here know how to get all the hardware to behave on a MacBook Pro (8,2) in 11.10?
[20:18] <elgaton> peque_: echo Hello | mail <your user account name>
[20:19] <peque_> elgaton: done
[20:19] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: It went balck because you probably neen a GRUB reconfiguration first.
[20:20] <elgaton> peque_: OK, check your local mailbox (cat /var/mail/<your user account>) - the message should be there
[20:20] <Nacho123456> hello
[20:20] <Galvatron> Zeelot: Which MBP exactly is this?
[20:20] <sirdeiu> hello Nacho123456
[20:20] <Nacho123456> anyone know how to config mouse mediakeys?
[20:21] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: i need 1152x720 or 1152x820 not sure,can i force it some how?
[20:21] <peque_> elgaton: it says permission denied, do I need to use sudo (I'm using the <your user account> already)
[20:21] <Pooky5> hi guys, I use ubuntu 11.10 and I still don't get firefox update.... Is it only me? Or ubuntu still stick with firefox 7?
[20:21] <Zeelot> Galvatron: what do you mean? I thought 8,2 was the model info
[20:21] <Zeelot> it's brand new
[20:21] <diabolical187> for some reason the usb drive i tried setting up with fdisk isnt reporting any size or partitions anymore
[20:21] <peque_> elgaton: anyway, nothing there
[20:21] <elgaton> peque_: No, normally not...
[20:21] <OerHeks> Zeelot, did you check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac ?
[20:21] <sirdeiu> peque_: easier to check /var/log/mail.log to see your mail activity
[20:21] <Galvatron> Zeelot: This says nothing - just give the exact configuration.
[20:22] <elgaton> peque_: Paste the contents of /var/log/mail.log and of /var/log/mail.err
[20:22] <Zeelot> Galvatron: I don't know it
[20:22] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: To avoid screen going black and be able to recnfigure X, you need a GRUB "tweak"
[20:22] <diabolical187> this was being set up for a live usb
[20:22] <[twisti]> can someone tell me if anything is wrong with this jnlp ? http://toadwater.com/webstart/JTWC.jnlp a friend on ubuntu just told me that by default firefox tries to open the jnlp with itself like so: http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7544/screenshotat20111112200.png
[20:23] <Zeelot> OerHeks: yeah, it says most of the stuff should work but it doesn't (top keyboard keys don't work, backlit doesn't work, touchpad is not found, etc)
[20:23] <lachfome> howto firefox socks proxy authentication
[20:23] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron ok i am going to install it,can you guid me the rest of the process.
[20:23] <nightwalkerkg> I lost the commands after the restart.
[20:24] <OerHeks> Zeelot, there is a ppa special for this, if i recall correctly > https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[20:24] <Zeelot> OerHeks: yup, I added it but most of the packages are for 11.04 or earlier
[20:24] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: First, "gksu gedit /etc/default/grub"
[20:25] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: ok,next
[20:25] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg:In the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= add vga=normal"
[20:25] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: do i erease quiet splash?
[20:26] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: Uncomment GRUB_GFXMODE= and change the resolution to higher one, corresponding your screen proportions
[20:26] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: It's a good Idea
[20:27] <OerHeks> Zeelot, i see xorg-synaptics > https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=oneiric but this does not solve any ?
[20:27] <Zeelot> OerHeks: but my issues are not with xorg so I never tried that package
[20:27] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: save it now?
[20:27] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: When you're done, use "sudo update-grub" and reboot. Now you should be able to normally enter the terminal/text mode (Alt + F1), withou screen going black/blank
[20:28] <milanoa> !grub
[20:28] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: give me the commands for X again.
[20:29] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: Stop X with "sudo service gdm stop", or lightdm for 11.10, - this will turn off the X-server - then remove the old xorg.conf with "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf", create new with "sudo X -configure" and get back to X with "sudo service gdm start".
[20:29] <Galvatron> nightwalkerkg: For you it'll be "lightdm", nit "gdm"
[20:30] <nightwalkerkg> Galvatron: tnx,back in a sec with the results.
[20:31] <cc77> !broadcom
[20:31] <Zeelot> OerHeks: it doesn't let me install that package anyway o_o
[20:31] <theborger> hey got a ? looking over the install for XBMC and saying there is an option for NVidia hardware acceleration VDPAU. if i am using the Nvidia driver from Nvidia, do i need this?
[20:31] <peque_> elgaton: ftp://reset.etsii.upm.es/users/peque/
[20:31] <Zeelot> Galvatron: how can I get the information you need?
[20:32] <dublisk> when running fsck I should use a livecd ? or just recovery mode
[20:32] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[20:32] <Galvatron> What size and CPU speed is it?
[20:32] <theborger> anyone?
[20:32] <theborger> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu following this guide
[20:32] <Galvatron> Zeelot: What size and CPU speed is it?
[20:32] <theborger> do i need the sudo apt-get install libvdpau1 nvidia-185-libvdpau ?
[20:33] <Galvatron> theborger: What card and drivers you have?
[20:33] <theborger> nvidia 520gt using the nvidia drivers
[20:34] <theborger> Galvatron: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-285.05.09.run
[20:34] <Zeelot> Galvatron: 15" 2.2 i7
[20:34] <elgaton> peque_: Ah, I see, you're trying to use GMail's SMTP server as a relay
[20:34] <bartman2589_> I have a question about Nautilus settings in gconf under 11.10, I know in 10.10 it was possible to edit a gconf entry to turn off the use of nautilus for rendering the desktop, it was also possible to set it so that when the last nautilus window closed the nautilus process would terminate, these options don't seem to be present in 11.10 anymore though, I want to know how to do this in 11.10 because I periodically use
[20:34] <bartman2589_> Nautilus under kde for some tasks with nautilus scripts that I can't find equivalents for in dolphin
[20:34] <Galvatron> Zeelot: Then you have the HD6750 GPU
[20:35] <elgaton> peque_: Either you 1) choose to send mail directly (I recommend it), or 2) you'll need to tweak the configuration a bit since GMail's SMTP server requires TLS
[20:35] <Zeelot> Galvatron: ok
[20:35] <Galvatron> Zeelot: First, be warned that Linux + radeon = a russian rulette
[20:35] <peque_> elgaton: hmmmmmm, I haven't done that intentionally... Well, I installed phpBB and set it to use Gmail's SMTP server (perhaps it changed the system's configuration)
[20:35] <peque_> elgaton: yeah, I prefer option 1 :-)
[20:35] <theborger> Galvatron: any idea on this? or just leave it with the Nvidia Drivers?
[20:35] <Zeelot> Galvatron: that's fine, I just want to fix my keyboard and touchpad
[20:36] <elgaton> peque_: Strange - phpBB should not have had access to the configuration file
[20:36] <Galvatron> Zeelot: Secondly, I hope you're not trying to replace the Mac OS X
[20:36] <that_taco_guy> Hello.
[20:36] <Zeelot> Galvatron: what do you mean by replace? I am dual booting but I will never use OS X
[20:36] <elgaton> peque_: Try to type this:
[20:36] <bartman2589_> anyone?
[20:36] <peque_> elgaton: well, perhaps it is not that, but really, I think I haven't played with Gmail in this system... :-S
[20:36] <mordof> Galvatron: sorry bout that. VOIP phone drops the routers.. not sure why, lol
[20:36] <mordof> Galvatron: what was i waiting for?
[20:36] <elgaton> peque_: echo Hello | mail <external e-mail address of yours>
[20:37] <Galvatron> mordof: Yes
[20:37] <pr0nGuy> How do I view jpegs with Lubuntu? Do I have to install a package for that?
[20:37] <dcherniv> pr0nGuy, gpicview should already be there
[20:37] <LSymonds> I thought you could do it natively @pr0nguy
[20:37] <elgaton> peque_: so that I can check if the message is still delivered after we have restored the original configuration fiiles
[20:37] <peque_> elgaton: message not received, want to check log files?
[20:37] <mordof> Galvatron: also, it'd be nice to have the desktop effects still enabled in this gnome-session-fallback.. it's making my AWN dock look really ugly..
[20:38] <elgaton> peque_: Yes, please
[20:38] <Galvatron> Zeelot: You make a big mistaake by avoiding OS X, since it's as good as Linux, and also battery life will suffer terribly under Linux or Windows
[20:38] <Snicksie> whats your problem Zeelot ? you have mac osx but your trackpad doesnt work nicely? in that case i might have some commands that will fix the problem as ive had that problem too ;)
[20:38] <theborger> Galvatron: any idea on this? or just leave it with the Nvidia Drivers?
[20:38] <mordof> Galvatron: i can't get rid of gnome-panel in this either..
[20:38] <mordof> Galvatron: yeah, this isn't any better :\
[20:38] <peque_> elgaton: updated :-)
[20:38] <Zeelot> Snicksie: to fix the trackpad on Ubuntu?
[20:39] <peque_> elgaton: (same ftp://reset.etsii.upm.es/users/peque/)
[20:39] <pr0nGuy> dcherniv: yeah, it is installed, but I can't view jpegs.  Any other advice?
[20:39] <Zeelot> Galvatron: I don't like OS X, battery life is not a problem
[20:39] <Snicksie> yep, that exactly Zeelot... its three commands i usally type in... i'll paste them for you :)
[20:39] <dcherniv> pr0nGuy, must be a corrupt file then, jpeg is supported natively for god knows how long
[20:39] <Zeelot> Snicksie: thanks can you PM them to me so I don't lose them? L)
[20:39] <dcherniv> pr0nGuy, theres no reason for it to not display other than corrupt file
[20:39] <Zeelot> :)*
[20:40] <pr0nGuy> dcherniv: that's what I would think, but I've tried many different media sources.
[20:40] <Galvatron> Zeelot: Just give it a chance - it's a very Good system, comparable to Ubuntu
[20:40] <Snicksie> just type these in the terminal Zeelot : http://paste.ubuntu.com/736628/
[20:40] <elgaton> peque_: Is a row beginning with "relayhost = " present and uncommented in the /etc/postfix/main.cf file?
[20:40] <Zeelot> Galvatron: I'm looking for help installing Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro... not for help deciding on an OS
[20:40] <Zeelot> O_o
[20:41] <Zeelot> Snicksie: is this for 11.10? do you have Ubuntu working well on your MacBook Pro?
[20:41] <peque_> elgaton: present, uncommented, but empty
[20:42] <silverrocker> hi, I'm trying to run mplayer over ssh but I get FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
[20:42] <Zeelot> Snicksie: those commands give me "No synaptics driver loaded?"
[20:42] <Snicksie> i have a macbook, but ubuntu works well on my macbook. i installed the mactel extra's and used that commands i gave you to fix my trackpad... everything else worked quite fine as far as I can remember... only difficult part was the installation, but thats partly because i've a triple boot... :)
[20:42] <Snicksie> hm, did you install the mactel extra's already?
[20:43] <elgaton> peque_: OK, is smtp.google.com present in that file?
[20:43] <mordof> Galvatron: how do i get rid of gnome-panel and keep it away in this gnome-session-fallback?
[20:43] <Zeelot> Snicksie: what is that? which packages?
[20:43] <Zeelot> and which PPA?
[20:43] <mordof> Galvatron: and is it possible to enable the desktop-effects thing?
[20:43] <bindi> how can I kill a screen with a certain name? not PID
[20:43] <Snicksie> Zeelot, https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa is the packages you need... just install all of them and it should work ;)
[20:44] <Zeelot> Snicksie: alright... I'm just going to try and reinstall the OS and start over
[20:44] <Zeelot> with those packages
[20:44] <Snicksie> you dont need to reinstall Zeelot :) its just installing the packages itself... :)
[20:44] <peque_> elgaton: nope
[20:44] <Zeelot> I know, but I broke something with that PPA (I changed it to natty or something and it broke)
[20:45] <gebbione> hi , i m trying to add my user to the vboxusers groupd but useradd -g vboxusers myuser is not working... any ideas?
[20:45] <Snicksie> okay, in that case a reinstall could help indeed Zeelot ;)
[20:45] <Snicksie> good luck!
[20:45] <Galvatron> mordof: The option to remove a panel should be under Alt + right-click
[20:45] <mordof> Galvatron: i don't want to delete it, i want to kill the running process. sometimes i have to launch it to get at system stuff
[20:46] <mordof> Galvatron: if i delete it, then it's troublesome to get it back quickly
[20:46] <Galvatron> mordof: I'm not sure how to get compiz work, since my tests of 11.10 have ended up quite fast, because I couldn't het my 7300GT to workk.
[20:46] <mordof> hm
[20:46] <mordof> Galvatron: compiz is already running
[20:47] <mordof> Galvatron: or at least, i just launched the ccsm - i don't know if it's running in this mode..
[20:47] <puff> I'm running 11.10 and my sound has disappeared.
[20:47] <elgaton> peque_: Could you give me the contents of all the files in the /etc/postfix directory?
[20:47] <puff> This has happened a couple of times.  Ultimately, rebooting solved it, but I want to figure out what's causing the problem and fix it.  I'm running 11.10 on an IBM t520 thinkpad.
[20:47] <mordof> going to try a different login shell once arch is done downloading
[20:47] <elgaton> peque_: I wonder where the SMTP setting for Google's servers is
[20:48] <Galvatron> mordof: Alt + F2 --> compiz --replace
[20:49] <tpyo> what is everyone's favourite light weight unbuntu disti?
[20:49] <arcsky> anyone here got a asrock 3d ion2 ?
[20:49] <tpyo> i have a bit of an old machine
[20:49] <peque_> elgaton: is there any sensible information in those files? (to send you a private message with the info)
[20:49] <tpyo> so I figured id find a light weight ubuntu disti to go with it
[20:49] <ParadigmUltra> elgaton:  smtp.gmail.com
[20:49] <mordof> Galvatron: ah, ok.... well wtf.. even this gnome-session-fallback has a system menu used in Unity.. this sucks D;!
[20:49] <tpyo> or does ubuntu play super nice with old crap machines anyway?
[20:49] <mordof> Galvatron: any idea how to get to the disk utility?
[20:49] <Galvatron> tpyo: Xubuntu (XFCE), and even lighter Lubuntu (LXDE)
[20:49] <mordof> i don't know these commands by heart..
[20:50] <tpyo> thanks Galvatron
[20:50] <Galvatron> tpyo: What exatly is this machine
[20:50] <elgaton> ParadigmUltra: Thanks - I was asking "where the setting for enabling smarthosts in Postfix was since the relayhost line was commented out in main.cf" :)
[20:51] <elgaton> peque_: Not in main.cf and master.cf - send me those and give me just a directory listing of the /etc/postfix directory
[20:51] <Galvatron> mordof: Honestly, I'don't know, since i'm yet to test it thoroughly
[20:51] <tpyo> 1.6 ghz 500mg ram
[20:52] <mordof> Galvatron: k, no worries.. gonna try a few different available shells. worst case scenario i still have awesomeWM installed, i'll just use that to manage my stuff, lol
[20:52] <Galvatron> tpyo: What CPU and video card?
[20:52] <puff> Hm, getting errors from sudo aptitude update: Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports/restricted Translation-en
[20:52] <puff> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports/universe Translation-en
[20:52] <puff> Fetched 476 kB in 4s (119 kB/s)
[20:52] <puff> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[20:52] <puff> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com oneiric-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[20:52] <FloodBot1> puff: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:52] <tpyo> Galvatron, proc is Intel Pentium M processor
[20:52] <diabolical187> need help with fdisk it killed all my logical disk space i know its all there and hidden 0 block .... 0 disk space....
[20:52] <peque_> elgaton: same FTP for the files, ls: dynamicmaps.cf  main.cf  master.cf  postfix-files  postfix-script  post-install  sasl
[20:52] <ImTheDude> man iron gyms are expensive
[20:53] <diabolical187> this is on an 8 gig usb drive
[20:53] <elgaton> peque_: Put dynamicmaps.cf on the FTP as well
[20:53] <Galvatron> tpyo: Anyways, for 512MB of RAM XFCE or LXDE might be just fine
[20:53] <puff> Dammit... I was *trying* to paste the pastebin URL, but instead it pasted the previous paste.
[20:53] <puff> http://pastebin.com/ztMMz7Fh
[20:53] <jost> does anyone know, how to configure the use of mail addresses (config is dbmail (imap) with postfix) with umlauts in the domain name? Or is this pointless, as most mail providers can't cope with Umlauts in domains?
[20:53] <peque_> elgaton: done
[20:53] <Zeelot> Snicksie: see for example "xf86-input-multitouch" says it cannot find the package
[20:54] <Snicksie> hm, did you add the ppa, Zeelot ?
[20:54] <Zeelot> I used `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mactel-support` and `sudo apt-get update`
[20:54] <puff> So, the PPA error I'm not put out about (it's a PPA, after all) but the oeneric-security error is kinda scary.
[20:54] <elgaton> peque_: OK, having a look at them
[20:54] <peque_> elgaton: ok, thanks :-)
[20:54] <OerHeks> diabolical187, fdisk is a windows application, do you mean Gparted ?
[20:55] <ikonia> fdisk is also a linux application
[20:55] <OerHeks> diabolical187, if you want to recover, use testdisk
[20:55] <tpyo> Galvatron, thanks for the help :)
[20:55] <Zeelot> Snicksie: I see no oneiric packages on that ppa
[20:55] <Snicksie> try going to software sources -> other software -> add -> paste "http://ppa.launchpad.net/mactel-support/ppa/ubuntu oneiric main "
[20:55] <Zeelot> they are all for Lucid/Karmic
[20:56] <Zeelot> ok
[20:56] <Galvatron> tpyo: If you got more RAM, you could most likely run Ubuntu at it's fullest.
[20:56] <Galvatron> I'll be going
[20:56] <Galvatron> Cya
[20:57] <Fudge> how does one configure a joystick in gnome on ubuntu 11 04
[20:57] <firestar> guten abend zusammen! ich brauch mal fix ne kleine hilfe!
[20:57] <Zeelot> Snicksie: I just checked and that repo is already there
[20:57] <puff> Is there a more appropriate channel for reporting a security problem with the ubuntu apt repos?
[20:58] <jost> firestar, der channel hier ist englisch - du solltest also auch englisch schreiben.
[20:58] <Snicksie> hm, you can also go to the software center -> All software -> the little arrow -> PPA for Mactel -> install all of them ;)
[20:59] <Zeelot> ok I will try
[20:59] <firestar> i will try it^^ ... is there any way to deactivate "aero" in unity?
[20:59] <ParadigmUltra> aero?
[20:59] <diabolical187> ?
[21:00] <ParadigmUltra> firestar: Do you mean the compositing, which lets you have transparant things?
[21:00] <diabolical187> need a hand with a live linux install that fdisk mashed up
[21:01] <diabolical187> my memory card is reporting 0 partitions with zero space but there are 0 block addressed partitions
[21:01] <diabolical187> that the heads were overlapped
[21:02] <Tixos> can someone tell me if i can use 11.4 Catalyst (ATI) drivers on 11.10 please
[21:02] <Tixos> and if there is a package for it in the repos
[21:03] <pfifo> diabolical187, use fdisk -c /dev/sdXY
[21:04] <diabolical187> pfifo will give it a try it
[21:05] <monsemannen> hay guys! Any ideas why 'apt-get install ruby rdoc' causes 'ruby : Conflicts: rdoc'?
[21:06] <LSymonds> @monsemannen perhaps it is already installed?
[21:06] <timo_> hello
[21:06] <diabolical187> pfifo i was running that before in the terminal and nothing but now im showing a extended partition start 1 end 5577   7579134 blocks
[21:07] <Zeelot> Snicksie: nothing works... why would the ppa not work?
[21:07] <Zeelot> I can't install any packages from the PPA
[21:07] <Guest6407> hey you
[21:07] <elgaton> peque_: OK, looked at your log and configuration files, Postfix does not use GMail's SMTP server to relay messages, it tries to deliver your test messages directly to your GMail address instead.
[21:07] <pfifo> diabolical187, can you pasebin whats in your terminal
[21:07] <elgaton> peque_: Seems something is blocking those connections. Have you got a firewall or filtering appliance that blocks them?
[21:07] <monsemannen> @LSymonds: no. I don't think so at least. Installing rdoc after ruby removes ruby, and vice versa.
[21:08] <Zeelot> Snicksie: the PPA doesn't have packages for oneiric... look at https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=oneiric
[21:08] <Zeelot> just 1 package
[21:08] <elgaton> peque_: Just try "telnet smtp.google.com 25" and see if the connection is opened
[21:08] <Snicksie> they have one package and that one package is what you need for the touchpad Zeelot :)
[21:08] <peque_> elgaton: anything that came by default with Ubuntu 10.04
[21:08] <peque_> elgaton: Trying...
[21:08] <firestar> ne...auf englisch wird das nix...ich bekomms ja kaum auf deutsch erklärt -.-
[21:08] <Snicksie> cant you install that package Zeelot ?
[21:08] <elgaton> peque_: I mean on your network, not just on your computer
[21:08] <Zeelot> but my keyboard is also messed up
[21:09] <monsemannen> @LSymonds: I'm using oneiric: could that be problematic.
[21:09] <Zeelot> Snicksie: I did
[21:09] <elgaton> !de | firestar
[21:09] <peque_> elgaton: remains trying
[21:09] <delac> does anyone know if there are any scripts to convert gtkrc to gtk.css?
[21:09] <OrucReis> hello
[21:09] <Zeelot> my touchpad is also still not being detected
[21:09] <Snicksie> and did you run my commands after that, Zeelot ? if it doesnt work then, did you restart your computer?
[21:09] <firestar> tnx!
[21:09] <peque_> elgaton: hmmmmmm, should be in the network...
[21:09] <Zeelot> the Mouse and Touchpad settings show only mouse
[21:09] <OrucReis> Hi all !
[21:09] <elgaton> peque_: Then something is blocking the connections, maybe a network appliance.
[21:09] <peque_> elgaton: *shouldn't
[21:09] <Zeelot> Snicksie: the commands don't work
[21:09] <peque_> elgaton: sorry :-)
[21:09] <diabolical187> pfifo: also under expert it is showing 4 Nr all 0 byted... this is an 8 gig flash
[21:10] <pfifo> diabolical187, can you pastebin whats in your terminal
[21:10] <Snicksie> Zeelot, restarting your computer didnt help in that?
[21:10] <Zeelot> Snicksie: no
[21:10] <elgaton> peque_: Not a problem. Just another test: does connecting to smtp.google.com on port 587 work?
[21:10] <sercan_> s.a
[21:10] <Snicksie> hm, dont know then Zeelot... im sorry
[21:10] <Zeelot> k
[21:10] <peque_> elgaton: seems it doesn't either
[21:10] <zabomber> anyone manage to get mediatomb working with 11.10?
[21:11] <zabomber> my unpnp never shows up
[21:11] <Zeelot> does anyone else have experience with installing Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[21:11] <elgaton> peque_: Also try with smtp.live.com on ports 25 and 587.
[21:11] <zabomber> Zeelot: i failed hard... i use virtual box now instead. much safer
[21:11] <sercan_> Does anyone know turkish
[21:11] <_Rod2k> peque_ AFAIK the only valid ports for Google are 465 and 993...
[21:11] <Zeelot> I really don't want to boot into OS X to use linux in a VM =(
[21:11] <elgaton> !tr | sercan_
[21:12] <peque_> _Rod2k: not working either
[21:12] <zabomber> zeelot: i have a script that autostarts... it takes all of 15 seconds and im in....
[21:12] <_Rod2k> peque_ Are you behind a firewall or something?
[21:12] <haunt_house> how do I set a custom application to open a file type manually? the way through the context menu does not work
[21:12] <sercan_> Thank you for forwarding
[21:12] <guntbert> monsemannen: you are on oneiric? there is no package "rdoc"
[21:12] <Zeelot> zabomber: I don't want VM performance
[21:12] <elgaton> peque_: Have you installed other servers such as Dovecot, Courier...?
[21:12] <elgaton> sercan_: You're welcome
[21:12] <peque_> elgaton: probably :-S
[21:13] <tobe_> can anyone help me with video recording. cheese wont capture video only sound. and guvcviewer crashes(closes) when i push capture
[21:13] <zabomber> zeelot: have you seen the article online? there are some really good ones?
[21:13] <zabomber> zeelot: on the ubuntu forumns...
[21:13] <Zeelot> yeah they don't help
[21:13] <peque_> elgaton: I installed many things trying to make this work...
[21:13] <zabomber> zeelot: what problem you got?
[21:13] <zabomber> zeelot: driver issues?
[21:13] <Zeelot> the touchpad isn't being detected
[21:13] <haunt_house> tobe_, I do capturing with Kino. works nicely, but it's mini DV
[21:13] <Zeelot> I can't even right click
[21:13] <peque_> elgaton: smtp.live.com 587 worked :-)
[21:13]  * yoaino3v hi
[21:13] <zabomber> zeelot: yeh... same problem as me along with failing wireless...
[21:14] <tobe_> haunt_house: let me try
[21:14] <Zeelot> among other things
[21:14] <elgaton> peque_: Which ones? Check for courier, sendmail, qmail, exim, dovecot, procmail...
[21:14] <zabomber> zeelot: sorry. i gave up
[21:14] <pfifo> peque_, lol exim4-light is all you need to get php's mail working
[21:14] <elgaton> peque_: And what about port 25?
[21:14] <Zeelot> yeah wireless too
[21:14] <monsemannen> @guntbert I am on oneiric, yes. That's funny. It is available here
[21:14] <swharper> i need some assistance regarding installing ubuntu server and partitioning/mounting a RAID config.  i have 9 drives installed.  trying to install the server on one, a raid6 MD the other 8.  whatever im doing is causing the install to hang while checking the drives
[21:14] <swharper> during boot
[21:15] <Zeelot> zabomber: how well does it work in VBox? do you get all the hardware acceleration?
[21:15] <peque_> pfifo: anyway, after that, I would like to configure a full mail server, so I would better do all the work now :-)
[21:15] <haunt_house> hi folks, how do I set a custom application to open a file type manually? the way through the context menu does not work. I run Blender-3D from a folder
[21:15] <zabomber> zeelot: it works quite well for me. i don't play games though and use the accelleration all that well. use it as a work desktop/personal desktop.
[21:15] <peque_> elgaton: nah, 25 is not working, only 587
[21:15] <zabomber> zeelot: i havent had a single issues since i started...
[21:15] <guntbert> monsemannen: true, I fell for ubottu's wrong answer, let me have a look
[21:16] <Zeelot> alright
[21:16] <zabomber> zeelot: cant hurt to give it a try...
[21:16] <Zeelot> I'll give it a shot
[21:16] <monsemannen> @guntbert: but many of my entries in sources.list is with lucid. Not sure if that matters.
[21:17] <haunt_house> tobe_, I have to run Kino as root to get it to work, starting it from a console using sudo
[21:17] <elgaton> peque_: OK, then some firewall, your provider or some appliance is filtering port 25
[21:17] <fhtagn> howdy! how to I go about installing Ubuntu on a usb drive? I tried http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download but I ended up with a live usb.. what can I do?
[21:17] <elgaton> peque_: You can either 1) use Google's servers as a relay or 2) ask your network administrator to unblock port 25 filtering
[21:18] <nimbiotics> hello all. I've got v11.10 with gnome. How do I install and use new themes and where can I get them? TIA
[21:18] <peque_> elgaton: is there any disadvantage on using Google's servers?
[21:18] <guntbert> monsemannen: you should clean that up, then run sudo apt-get update again and then install ruby, rdoc is only a "virtual package" (whatever that means) - see http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/rdoc
[21:19] <tobe_> haunt_house: i cant find how to connect my camera to it. just black screen... it used to work before i upgraded to 11.10
[21:19] <pfifo> fhtagn, i recommend using a persistant liveusb rather than installing on a usb
[21:19] <elgaton> nimbiotics: Go to www.gnome-look.org, don't know precisely how you install them (procedures may vary according to the theme, check on the download page)
[21:19] <haunt_house> tobe_, you run it as root?
[21:19] <tobe_> yes
[21:19] <haunt_house> ):
[21:19] <tobe_> idk
[21:19] <fhtagn> pfifo: persistant, the word I was missing in my searches. ty
[21:19] <monsemannen> @guntbert: thanks! What do you mean by cleaning it up? :)
[21:19] <nimbiotics> elgaton: thx
[21:20] <elgaton> peque_: The only disadvantage that comes to my mind at this time is the fact that you may get DKIM/SPF warnings.
[21:20] <tobe_> RAWR!!! video always causes me headaches
[21:20] <elgaton> nimbiotics: You're welcome
[21:20] <nottik> hey
[21:20] <peque_> elgaton: don't know what's that... xD
[21:20] <guntbert> monsemannen: what entries in your sources.list contain still "natty"?
[21:21] <ben_> I've added some settings to Apache's httpd.conf file, restarted apache, but the settings aren't taking effect. Any idea why?
[21:21] <monsemannen> @guntbert: none. But a number of them contains lucid
[21:21] <elgaton> peque_: Two systems used mainly by spam filters to check that mail messages originating from a particular domain come from the authorized hosts for that domain.
[21:21] <fhtagn> pfifo: like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Method_3:_Copying_the_ISO_CD_image_to_the_USB_drive ?
[21:21] <peque_> elgaton: btw, I have installed: courier-authdaemon courier-authlib courier-authlib-mysql courier-authlib-userdb courier-base courier-maildrop dovecot-antispam dovecot-common dovecot-dbg dovecot-dev dovecot-imapd dovecot-pop3d dovecot-postfix mysqmail-dovecot-logger
[21:21] <nottik> i am looking to install my ati graphic drivers without a gui installed (ubuntu server)
[21:22] <peque_> elgaton: oh, I understand
[21:23] <peque_> elgaton: should I uninstall them?
[21:23] <silverrocker> I'm trying to use mplayer but I get Unsupported PixelFormat -1
[21:23] <nottik> anyone have ideas?     i am looking to install my ati graphic drivers without a gui installed (ubuntu server)
[21:23] <pfifo> fhtagn, yes thats it, you just need to label a filesystem 'casper-rw' and your good to go, that article mentions casper-rw
[21:24] <Gergov> guys i installed ubuntu 11.10 then i installed xfce and now i have trouble installing google chrome. i downloaded the .deb package.. i dpkg -i x.deb it says it have some dependeses i apt-get install -f .. but again i have some errors like http://pastebin.com/sm29e3YU
[21:24] <elgaton> peque_: Uninstall all the dovecot packages plus courier-authlib-mysql, courier-maildrop, mysqmail-dovecot-logger
[21:24] <elgaton> peque_: Use "sudo apt-get purge <list of packages>" to remove them
[21:25] <elgaton> peque_: so all configuration files will be deleted as well
[21:25] <guntbert> monsemannen: that is probably wrong and should be corrected, please show us your sources.list in a !pastebin
[21:25] <Tixos>  can someone tell me if i can use 11.4 Catalyst (ATI) drivers on 11.10 please
[21:25] <ben_> I've added some settings to Apache's httpd.conf file, restarted apache, but the settings aren't taking effect. Any idea why?
[21:25] <Advocated> Hi there, quick query, for some reason ive lost my minimize/max/close buttons from firefox, terminal has also lost its toolbar and status bar, other apps behaving the same. Any ideas ? 10.04..
[21:26] <fhtagn> pfifo: ty
[21:26] <haunt_house> did really no one assign a file type by hand? I have no idea what's wrong or how to check it
[21:27] <haubuntu> hi hab grade mal als root ufw.log inhaltlich gelöscht..nun schreibt ufw nix mehr rein..
[21:27] <elgaton> !de | haubuntu
[21:27] <pfifo> haunt_house, right click on the file, then goto properties, then on the "open with" tab give the full path to the blender executable
[21:28] <peque_> elgaton: closed the window unintentionally
[21:28] <haubuntu> oh sry ..i have remove all contents from ufw.log..now ufw does not put anything into the file
[21:28] <jonwage> can anyone link me to a video card on new egg that will work out of the box dual monitors in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:28] <peque_> elgaton: I already deleted those packages, anyway that wont help, right?
[21:28] <haunt_house> pfifo, if it was that easy, I wouldnt ask. sorry, context menu doesnt work. I can assign it but it wont open
[21:28] <elgaton> haubuntu: Issue these commands in a terminal:
[21:28] <aguitel> i have this card:Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) anyway to increase perfomance with 3 D?
[21:29] <peque_> elgaton: I'll have to fix the firewall issue or configure the server to use Gmail's SMTP server
[21:29] <elgaton> haubuntu: sudo touch /var/log/ufw.log
[21:29] <peque_> elgaton: is that correct?
[21:29] <elgaton> haubuntu: sudo chown syslog:adm /var/log/ufw.log
[21:29] <Advocated> anyone know how to get statusbar and toolbars back on apps?
[21:29] <Zeelot> quick question... is there a specific laptop model that Ubuntu uses as it's test machine where everything works? with multitouch and perfect wireless etc?
[21:29] <monsemannen> @guntbert: here's my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/krgu0cBp
[21:29] <elgaton> haubuntu: sudo chmod 640 /var/log/ufw.log
[21:30] <dcherniv> Zeelot, not really. but you can get preinstalled laptops from vendors such as system76.com
[21:30] <elgaton> peque_: Yes, correct.
[21:30] <pfifo> haunt_house, you probably need to install blender properly instead of keeping it in a folder
[21:30] <monsemannen> @guntbert: should I just change them to oneiric?
[21:30] <peque_> elgaton: ok, then, thanks <strong>a lot</strong> for your help :-D
[21:30] <Zeelot> dcherniv: thanks, any others?
[21:30] <haunt_house> pfifo, cant, since ubuntu wont let me without constantly upgrading and breaking things
[21:30] <pfifo> !alot
[21:30] <guntbert> monsemannen: wait a moment, I want to read it
[21:31] <peque_> elgaton: I'll continue with this tomorrow or on monday (I'll try first if I can fix the Firewall issue)
[21:31] <elgaton> peque_: If you want to use GMail's servers as relays, look at <http://bookmarks.honewatson.com/2008/04/20/postfix-gmail-smtp-relay/>
[21:31] <haunt_house> pfifo, latest install version is 2.49, but I run 2.6
[21:31] <Tixos>  can someone tell me if i can use 11.4 Catalyst (ATI) drivers on 11.10 please
[21:31] <elgaton> peque_: OK
[21:31] <Mneumonic> What is the current status of reading and writing to an NTFS partition on Linux?  I haven't tried in a long time but I would like to change my external Hard drive to Fat
[21:31] <pfifo> haunt_house, install it into /usr/local
[21:31] <Mneumonic> from fat*
[21:31] <dcherniv> Zeelot, you can google for ubuntu vendors, there's some others yes. i bought mine from system76 so i can speak for the rest
[21:31] <Zeelot> dcherniv: and how is it?
[21:32] <Zeelot> as far as hardware quality?
[21:32] <haubuntu> elgaton, still not working
[21:32] <ben_> I've added some settings to Apache's httpd.conf file, restarted apache, but the settings aren't taking effect. Any idea why?
[21:33] <dcherniv> Zeelot, mine was noname, nobrand. All hardware was opensource supported though. Lasted me for about two years until i dropped it :)
[21:33] <elgaton> ben_: Have you run sudo apache2ctl configcheck?
[21:34] <Pumpkin->  /win 45
[21:34] <Pumpkin-> ssgdsgd
[21:34] <guntbert> monsemannen: you should delete line 11  and replace every other ocurrence of lucid with natty. -- How did you upgrade?
[21:34] <elgaton> haubuntu: try this command: sudo ufw logging on
[21:34] <Advocated> Hi there, quick query, for some reason ive lost my minimize/max/close buttons from firefox, terminal has also lost its toolbar and status bar, other apps behaving the same. Any ideas ? 10.04..
[21:34] <idefix> icons and smileys are not displayed in my Evolution Mail, what could be the problem?
[21:35] <dcherniv> Zeelot, that was quite some time ago though. 4 years back.
[21:35] <monsemannen> @guntbert: okay! Thanks. I ran 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. Why natty instead of oneiric?
[21:35] <pretorian_> hi
[21:36] <idefix> are there no upgrades for evolution mail?
[21:36] <hololight> Is there a way to setup xrdp so that I am logging into the current session rather than starting a new session? I have already read the man pages and there isn't any mention of this.
[21:36] <haubuntu> elgaton, still no entries in it
[21:36] <Zeelot> dcherniv: many thanks
[21:36] <guntbert> monsemannen: ouch! thx for asking back - "replace every other ocurrence of lucid with oneiric"  of course, as to the upgrade process, please ask ubottu about it with /msg ubottu upgrade
[21:37] <iceroot> hololight: no, for that you need "vlc" never heard that rdp can do something like that
[21:37] <elgaton> haubuntu: try this: sudo ufw logging medium
[21:37] <elgaton> haubuntu: or sudo ufw logging full (note: this will log ALL packets, beware the log size)
[21:38] <elgaton> haubuntu: The last command is just meant for quick checks
[21:38] <dcherniv> iceroot, hololight vnc rather
[21:38] <hololight> Well, in linux I am starting to think that. Windows will allow you to do this; vlc is  fine, but will not work in my use case
[21:38] <elgaton> haubuntu: Also, have you rsyslog installed?
[21:38] <guntbert> monsemannen: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Network_Upgrade_for_Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29  (that is still valid)
[21:38] <haubuntu> elgaton, logging is enabled..i remove the ufw.log and rentered the commands you suggested
[21:38] <elgaton> haubuntu: OK
[21:38] <ben_> elgaton: Running apache2ctl doesn't seem to work. I've run apache2 -t to check syntax. It igves me "bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[21:38] <iceroot> hololight: dcherniv of course vnc and not vlc...
[21:39] <hololight> didn't even notice the spelling error, I read it as vnc
[21:39] <monsemannen> @guntbert: will do! Thanks for helping. Much appreciated :>
[21:39] <nimbiotics> Looks like compiz is not working (v11.10-unity). What to do?
[21:39] <guntbert> monsemannen: no problem :)  .. and Good luck :-)
[21:39] <hololight> The problem with vnc is poor use of bandwidth... I hate having to use rdp (a ms tech), but I need the better performance
[21:40] <milen8204> Hello all I have one problem, I am whit gnome classic on Ubuntu 11.10, and now I have chosen an option wobbly windows in copmpiz manager but my windows are not wobbled, the same is whit Zoom option what can be wrong ?
[21:40] <monsemannen> @guntbert: thanks!:)
[21:40] <elgaton> ben_: Is /etc/apache2/envvars present? If so, could you please paste it in a pastebin?
[21:40] <|Anthony|> need to mount a ntfs partition to share storage space between win7 and ubuntu. Working on fstab...
[21:40] <|Anthony|> does the  "mount point" column need to be a path? or can i just say "storage"
[21:40] <nimbiotics> milen8204: ditto
[21:40] <elgaton> |Anthony|: yes, it needs to be an existing directory
[21:41] <Advocated> for some reason ive lost my minimize/max/close buttons from firefox, terminal has also lost its toolbar and status bar, other apps behaving the same. Any ideas ? 10.04..
[21:41] <iceroot> |Anthony|: a directory, you can use a full path /home/foo/storage or storage when you are inside /home/foo/
[21:41] <milen8204> nimbiotics,  ditto ???
, restore window decoration settings from compiz manager (system settings)
[21:41] <Mneumonic> Advocated were you disabling or enabling effects?
[21:41] <Mneumonic> Advocated I've had that happen and it just needed a restart of my computer to fix it
[21:41] <nimbiotics> i meant  i have same situation as you do (and a dozen+ more)
[21:42] <Guest8043> no i had the same problem, it's cause window decoration is disabled in compiz
[21:42] <mr_daniel> Are the repository servers down? I am trying to execute 'sudo aptitude update', but I am only getting strange errors, e.g. bzip2 (stdin) is not a bzip2 file etc.
[21:42] <|Anthony|> compiz is buggy from ubuntu repos
[21:42] <mr_daniel> This is the complete output, very strange: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6VWbnFYQ
[21:43] <Tech-1> I have almost everything running after i did this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-removeinstall-and-reconfigure-xorg-without-reinstalling-ubuntu.html
[21:43] <peque_> elgaton: Good bye and thanks again for your help! :-) Hope I can solve the rest by my own ;-)
[21:43] <Tech-1> none of my launchers work
[21:43] <Tech-1> whats missing ?
[21:43] <Advocated> Guest8043, how do you actually restore in compiz then?
[21:43] <elgaton> peque_: You're welcome :)
[21:43] <haubuntu> elgaton, aftera reboot it works thanks for your help
[21:43] <Advocated> Mneumonic, not messed with it atall :S and i rebooted , but still stuck
[21:43] <Guest8043> go to system settings
[21:43] <Guest8043> then type compiz in search box
[21:44] <elgaton> haubuntu: You're welcome
[21:44] <milen8204> nimbiotics, what is ditto
[21:44] <Guest8043> open compiz settings
[21:44] <Guest8043> wait i will find exact menu names
[21:45] <ben_> elgaton: Thanks. http://pastebin.com/WM5xWdXn
[21:45] <Guest8043> you're on oneiric?
[21:45] <pfifo> mr_daniel, considering all the errors are refering to a file thatr is 151 bytes, It looks like your getting a 404 or 500 error, so yes, it seems that server is down or misconfigured
[21:45] <Advocated> Guest8043, thanks, and oneiric? that to me? never heard of it
[21:45] <Guest8043> i mean what version of ubuntu are u running
[21:46] <Advocated> Guest8043, 10.04
[21:46] <Guest8043> ok, i fixed the problem in 11.04. can you launch system settings?
[21:46] <Advocated> yeah
[21:46] <elgaton> ben_: Could you paste the contents of all the files in /etc/apache2 as well (including those in subdirectories)?
[21:47] <Guest8043> is any entry found when searching for compiz?
[21:47] <Guest8043> bc i now search my 11.10 settings and its not found, but it definitely was there before upgrade
[21:47] <Advocated> well ive got compizconfig settings open
[21:47] <Guest8043> yes
[21:47] <Guest8043> great, then find window decoration setting there
[21:47] <Guest8043> turn it on
[21:47] <mr_daniel> pfifo: I hope that this is not the case
[21:48] <Advocated> Guest8043, its already ticked(on)
[21:48] <pfifo> mr_daniel, change to a different mirror
[21:48] <guntbert> mr_daniel: if I read it correctly the server responds, but I have no idea what might be the matter - sorry
[21:48] <realHans> hi. I'm a linux noob. There is a SSD in my computer but I don't know its name (/DEV/??? - for Firmware update)  how do I figure it out ?
[21:48] <Guest8043> was it on or did you turn it on on this session?
[21:48] <ben_> elgaton: That's a lot of stuff. I haven't changed anything from installation other than adding a ServerName and ServerAdmin directive in the httpd.conf file.
[21:48] <Advocated> Guest8043, i dont think ive ever touched it
[21:49] <Guest8043> ok so thats not its fault
[21:49] <Guest8043> was anything you changed in compiz settings? that's too easy to break
[21:49] <Guest8043> i've made my own mistakes there ;D
[21:49] <guntbert> mr_daniel: ah, I missed the 161 bytes, listen to pfifo ...
[21:49] <elgaton> realHans: open a terminal and use the command "dmesg|grep sd", the device name (e.g. sdb) should be shown next to the disk size.
[21:50] <Advocated> not touched it for ages, but possibly, i dont remember doing something and then having a problem
[21:50] <realHans> elgaton: ah, thanks. I'll try ...
[21:50] <elgaton> ben_: I know - just paste it so that I can have a look
[21:50] <Guest8043> ok. so terminal sticks to the top of the screen right? and you're not able to move it
[21:50] <eee> i just installed 11.10 on my eeepc 1000h and it just randomly dumps me to console and locks up.  can't copy text or use/switch to any of the terminals.  i went through dmesg but i dont see any of the errors.  the last error is switching to console but i dont find anything using grep in dmesg
[21:51] <guntbert> ben_: please use a pastebin :)
[21:51] <Advocated> Guest8043, i can move it, but theres no bar(top and bottom) i see the file menus etc, and in firefox the max,min close buttons are missing(and in other apps too)
[21:52] <realHans> elgaton: sda, b and c ....  thank you.
[21:53] <elgaton> realHans: Just make sure you're choosing the right one, use the partition sizes as a guide
[21:53] <eee> is there something i can do to find the issue.  anyone know what the first entry for dmesg would be so I can grep and work bacck from that?
[21:53] <Guest8043> try this
[21:53] <Guest8043> http://www.ubun2.com/question/493/ubuntu_window_border_missing_no_maximize_minimize_buttons_how_fix
[21:53] <realHans> elgaton: OK ... I see ...
[21:53] <Guest8043> /metacity --replace
[21:53] <realHans> elgaton: [    4.095727] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] 234441648 512-byte logical blocks: (120 GB/111 GiB) :)
[21:54] <elgaton> realHans: :)
[21:54] <Advocated> Guest8043, that fixed it, nice one mate
[21:54] <Guest8043> np :)
[21:54] <nyuszika7h> Hi, I have a little problem with virtual TTYs.
[21:54] <swharper> this is the current RAID partition table
[21:54] <swharper> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3136063/ubuntuinstall.jpg
[21:54] <Guest8043> you can do that for compiz too, if you ever want to restore compiz
[21:55] <Guest8043> compiz --replace
[21:55] <elgaton> realHans: Just to be precise (double measurement unit)
[21:55] <swharper> when i try to install using this, it hangs at boot
[21:55] <nimbiotics> hello, I'm using ubuntu 11.10 with gnome. I installed compiz, but it doesnt seem to be working as none of the effects do. What can I do?
[21:55] <nyuszika7h> They have a lower resolution than X11, and with VirtualBox Guest Additions, the display is totally screwed up when switching to a TTY.
[21:55] <Guest8043> and if window bars still missing, then go back to metacity --replace :D
[21:55] <Guest8043> glhf
[21:55] <nyuszika7h> Should I use KMS or something?
[21:55] <dagon> nimbiotics, Do you have advanced visuals activated? I know it's a hassle with the new version of Ubuntu
[21:56] <linelevel> Hi guys. I have both Windows and Ubuntu installed on my laptop. Under Windows, the internet works fine on my home network. Under Ubuntu, it disconnects often, though other, stronger connections still work fine. My question is: Is a wireless amplifier likely to help?
[21:56] <linelevel> Also, earlier someone responded "Go into your router and turn the channels down." ...Can someone clarify that?
[21:56] <personal> ola
[21:56] <personal> hello
[21:56] <flopex> linelevel: yes, or you could try changin your router to a different channel and see if that works
[21:56] <kaddi> is there a time line when libmsn will get updated to handle the new msn standards?
[21:57] <dagon> linelevel, where is your router located? Same house or down the street
[21:57] <LSymonds> @linelevel - That would be me. If you can't locate the actual router turn the channels down to a lower number.
[21:57] <R3db3ard> linelevel: from what i've read it has to do with the strength of the broacast channel with lower levels having stronger signal strength.
[21:57] <nimbiotics> dagon: guess not, but i have no idea where is it that I can activate it
[21:57] <opsii> i changed the size of some volumes without changing the size of the partition u.U whats the safest path to follow now?
[21:58] <BluesKaj> linelevel, actaually there may be a lot of local traffic on the desault channels ...I use higher channel like 9 which has fewer dropouts
[21:58] <pfifo> opsii, the safest path to do what?
[21:59] <flopex> linelevel: go into your router settings and under wireless settings there should be an option to change the channel in which your wifi is being brodcast
[21:59] <linelevel> BluesKaj: I'm currently using Channel 9. I've tried others, same problem.
[21:59] <BluesKaj> desault=default
[21:59] <LSymonds> Have you gone down any channels?
[21:59] <linelevel> flopex: Yes, I get that. What I don't get is why using a lower channel will help me get a better signal.
[22:00] <linelevel> LSymonds: I haven't gone down below 7 because my router firmware (Tomato) tells me that those have a worse signal:noise ratio.
[22:00] <ben_> elgaton: There are about 100 files inthere.
[22:00] <elgaton> ben_: 100? OK, the ones in /etc/apache2 (excluding subdirectories) should be enough.
[22:01] <elcam> ciao
[22:01] <LSymonds> linelevel: It can't harm to try it, can it? :)
[22:01] <elcam> !list
[22:01] <haso> Is http://www.getdeb.net/ a safe source for package installation ?
[22:02] <pfifo> haso, thats not recommended
[22:02] <BluesKaj> linelevel, there should be a broadcast power setting  on the router , which is actually a sensititvity increase setting
[22:02] <haso> pfifo: and reason is ?
[22:03] <linelevel> LSymonds: I'll give it a shot.
[22:03] <pfifo> haso, they are not the official repo's
[22:03] <realHans> Hi.I'm still a noob. I try to execute the program 'fwupd' (-rwxr-xr-x 1 wolfi 73490 2011-08-31 23:53 fwupd) /which is green) but typing './fwupd' i get the message : 'bash: ./fwupd: No such file or directory'. Why ?
[22:03] <linelevel> BluesKaj: Hmm, I've never come across that setting. I thought the broadcast power was fixed. I'm running Tomato firmware on a Linksys WRT-54G (1st generation)
[22:04] <pfifo> realHans, pastebin the output of `ldd ./fwupd`
[22:04] <realHans> ok
[22:04] <x_> hello everyone. i have a laptop that seems to be stuck in sleep, or hibernation. the screen stays blank :/
[22:05] <haso> pfifo: I know that... some other reason ?
[22:05] <Rayston> Is there somewhere I can look at a demo of the Unity Desktop without actually installing it? I am still on 11.04 and want to see what all the fuss is about before upgrading
[22:05] <realHans> pfifo: bash: ./fwupd: No such file or directory
[22:05] <BluesKaj> linelevel, ok , not familiar with that router
[22:05] <realHans> pfifo: 	not a dynamic executable
[22:05] <pfifo> haso, you could end up downloading and installing something that breaks your system
[22:05] <R3db3ard> what's the file i need to edit to change the timer for the GRUB?
[22:05] <jrib> Rayston: live cd or virtual machine
[22:05] <realHans> It seems it is not an executable ...
[22:06] <Rayston> ahh, yes, ill do a virtual machine, good idea
[22:06] <jrib> Rayston: but wait... unity was already in 11.04...
[22:06] <DJones> Rayston: http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/ Should give you an idea of what its like
[22:06] <pfifo> realHans, can you pastebin the output of 'cat fwupd'
[22:06] <idefix> how do you know whether you need 32-bit or 4-bit software?
[22:06] <idefix> 64-bit *
[22:06] <Rayston> it was optional though  in 11.04 and I did not take the option, guess I could turn it on now, dont wanna
[22:06] <SinusPi> 4-bit controllers are cool.
[22:07] <idefix> so the bit is the controller value?
[22:07] <realHans> pfifo: no - it looks binary with a some text ... hmmm ...
[22:07] <haso> pfifo: that I also understand. I can handle that.
[22:07] <jrib> idefix: uname -m   will tell you whether your kernel is 32bit or 64bit
[22:07] <pfifo> idefix, you need to get software that matches your OS
[22:07] <SinusPi> idefix: if you can, run 64. if not, stick with 32. Simple.
[22:07] <realHans> pfifo: thank you for your help
[22:07] <idefix> but it says i686, is that 64- or 32-bit?
[22:07] <dagon> nimbiotics, this might help you out a little getting your compiz to work proper not sloper
[22:07] <SinusPi> idefix: note that there aren't 64-bit ports of some software, so going 64 might leave you with a problem.
[22:07] <jrib> SinusPi: like what?
[22:07] <dagon> nimbiotics, http://www.howtoforge.com/enabling-compiz-fusion-on-an-ubuntu-classic-11.04-desktop-gnome-nvidia-geforce-8200
[22:08] <pfifo> realHans, I dont think that file is an executable file
[22:08] <R3db3ard> what's the file i need to edit to change the timer for the GRUB?
[22:08] <jrib> idefix: that's 32bit
[22:08] <x_> i have a laptop that seems to be stuck in sleep, or hibernation. the screen stays blank, but computer is running.  running 10.04 32bit, if anyone has any thoughts on how to fix, thank you in advance
[22:08] <SinusPi> x_: hold power button? :P
[22:08] <pfifo> realHans, I think that file IS the firmware, you need another program to flash it to your drive
[22:09] <ben_> elgaton: http://pastebin.com/4rHV1bCR
[22:09] <realHans> pfifo: seems so ... I'll try to find the right one. Thank you again. This is for you (and algaton:)  http://dingosbreakfast.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/two-beers1.jpg
[22:09] <rockstar09> hello
[22:09] <x_> (SinusPi) holding power button for ten seconds powers it down. and will turn back on as well, but blank screen. it will flicker occasionally (when trying random alt-f key combinations
[22:09] <iExist> domo
[22:09] <nimbiotics> dagon: thx, will check
[22:10] <dagon> nimbiotics, no problem I hope it helps
[22:10] <realHans> pfifo: you're probably right ... <search-mode-on>
[22:10] <SinusPi> x_: turning it completely off should have it do a full startup sequence on power-on, doesn't it do that?
[22:10] <Rayston> jrib : doh, im an idiot, 10.10 is what I am on, not 11.04,
[22:10] <haso> pfifo: my q is more like: Does http://www.getdeb.net/ have a good reputation for it packaging job?
[22:10] <ben_> 11.10 runs really bad on this Virtual Box machine... Oh...
[22:11] <x_> (SinusPi) nope.. this all started earlier. hibernate has always worked fine on it. went in and enabled sleep under power management, and now.... blank screen
[22:11] <pfifo> haso, that i cant answer, i dont install software from untrusted sources. Tell me, why are you even considering downloading software from them?
[22:11] <Gergov> any way to install ubuntu 10.10 with wubi?
[22:12] <realHans> How do I figure out my ubuntu is 32 or 64 bit ?
[22:12] <elgaton> ben_: OK, just replace ${APACHE_RUN_USER} with www-data in the apache2.conf file
[22:12] <pfifo> realHans, uname -a
[22:12] <realHans> thanks .. 64 ...
[22:13] <Roasted> I like how sometimes when resuming from sleep ubuntu forgets to ask for my pw
[22:13] <R3db3ard> which file in /boot/grub do i edit to change the grub timer to 0?
[22:13] <realHans> hmm .. I always tried the 32 bit version of thePprogram ... <DOH>
[22:13] <haso> pfifo: newer packages of sofware in fast development.
[22:14] <pfifo> Roasted, ubuntu s sentient, it knows that its you, if you mom resumed it it would ask for password
[22:14] <Roasted> pfifo, except I did it 10 times in a row and 3 times it forgot
[22:14] <pfifo> haso, you should either find a ppa on launchpad.net or compile from the packages subversion/git repo's
[22:15] <ben_> elgaton: For group and user?
[22:15] <kaparen> I installed Gnomeshell on Ubuntu 11.10 it works fine except that it doesn't have minimize and maximize on the top of the windows. Is it supposed to be like that?
[22:15] <Roasted> kaparen, yes
[22:15] <elgaton> ben_: Yes, just to be sure
[22:15]  * realHans is back soon ...
[22:15] <Roasted> kaparen, if you click on the scroll wheel on the title bar, it sends the window to the back. if you click and drag on the title bar to the left/right/top, it'll maximize accordingly
[22:17] <linelevel> BluesKaj: Well, without being familiar with my router, do you know if buying a wireless G signal amplifier is likely to help?
[22:17] <kaparen> Roasted: Ah nice, thank you!
[22:18] <haso> pfifo: do you trust the debian repos  ?
[22:18] <pfifo> linelevel, you should be asking the question "Why does my wifi connection disconnect in linux, while in windows it works just fine?"
[22:19] <x_> i have a laptop that seems to be stuck in sleep, or hibernation. the screen stays blank, but computer is running.  running 10.04 32bit, if anyone has any thoughts on how to fix, thank you in advance
[22:19] <aouldr78> i am trying to install Vmware server 2 on ubuntu 11.10 but it is asking me the location of c headers directory! any help?
[22:19] <pfifo> haso, of course I do, I wouldnt run debain if i didnt
[22:20] <aouldr78> where is location of c headers directory of ubuntu 11.10?
[22:20] <elgaton> aouldr78: It should be /usr/include
[22:20] <linelevel> pfifo: Well, I know the answer to that.. It's because there are no good linux drivers for my particular wireless card. But other networks work fine in Linux, and this network works fine in Linux when I'm closer to the router.
[22:20] <ben_> elgaton: Ok, did that, restarted apache, but it doesn't look like httpd.conf is having any effect. I'm looking at PHP's phpinfo() output.
[22:20] <linelevel> pfifo: Therefore, I'm thinking that these linux drivers are just bad at dealing with relatively weak signals.
[22:20] <linelevel> pfifo: And that by amplifying the signal, I'll solve the problem.
[22:21] <linelevel> pfifo:  But I came here to ask you guys before spending money.
[22:21] <reflexrg> what's the command in terminal to change volume?
[22:21] <pfifo> reflexrg, alsamixer
[22:21] <linelevel> reflexrg: If you're using alsa, then alsamixer.
[22:21] <reflexrg> thx
[22:22] <pfifo> linelevel, well a amp wont hurt
[22:22] <reflexrg> how do you know which you are using?
[22:22] <realHans> pfifo: , elgaton: Back with new Firmware on SSD.  My Computer never booted in about < 10 seconds :D This is great. It's also  nice having an Linux partition and a nice irc room with nice people ... hava a nice evening ;)
[22:22] <pfifo> reflexrg, by default your using alsa
[22:23] <pfifo> !yay | realHans
[22:23] <reflexrg> ok even on lubuntu?
[22:23] <realHans> gn8 :)
[22:23] <elgaton> realHans: You're welcome :)
[22:24] <aouldr78> thank you i will try to but isnt it supposed be /usr/src/$(uname -r)/include/linux?
[22:24] <aouldr78> for the location of c headers directory
[22:24] <aouldr78> elganton
[22:24] <pfifo> reflexrg, the other option is OSS and that is expermental... you wont have it unless you really went out of your way to get it, and you would KNOW you have it
[22:26] <pfifo> aouldr78, your talking about the kernel headers
[22:26] <aouldr78> yes please i need help
[22:26] <aouldr78> pfifo
[22:26] <pfifo> aouldr78, sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[22:27] <aouldr78> i did sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[22:27] <pfifo> and then what?
[22:27] <aouldr78> i have the headers installed but i do not know where is the directory where they are installed in
[22:27] <pfifo> aouldr78, /usr/src/linux
[22:28] <aouldr78> i am installing vmware server and it can not find the c headers directory
[22:28] <pfifo> where is it looking?
[22:28] <aouldr78> /usr/src/include/linux
[22:29] <pfifo> aouldr78, tell it to look in /usr/src/linux
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> could symlink
[22:30] <aouldr78> ok i will try. thank you for your help
[22:31] <Italy> I'm sorry i wanna italian channel
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !it
[22:31] <Italy> Thank you
[22:32] <aouldr78> in the directory /usr/src there are linux-headers-`uname -r`
[22:32] <pfifo> aouldr78, what happens when you try that directory?
[22:32] <aouldr78> there are generic and pae
[22:32] <aouldr78> it is not right
[22:33] <astartoth> hi all, i'm a long time debian user and recently installed xubuntu. I'm a bit confused with how the services are managed. 1. How can I enable/disable services 2. is update-rc.d used under ubuntu? 3. How can I check what services are running?
[22:34] <astartoth> i suppose ls -la /etc/rc2.d will do it
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> !boot
[22:34] <astartoth> (checkig what services are running)
[22:34] <itsonlyme> Hi, I got a problem with ubuntu startup "ubuntu boot unable to enumerate usb", which keeps repeating and doesn't startup the operating system. Any ideas to fix this?
[22:35] <itsonlyme> I updated the o/s to 11.10, and problem hasn't disappeared.
[22:35] <pfifo> aouldr78, im not sure what the problem is, perhaps try asking in a vmware channel
[22:35] <astartoth> ActionParsnip: thanks
[22:38] <itsonlyme> Hi, I got a problem with ubuntu startup "ubuntu boot unable to enumerate usb", which keeps repeating and doesn't startup the operating system. Any ideas to fix this? I updated the o/s to 11.10, and problem hasn't disappeared.
[22:38] <pfifo> itsonlyme, try plugging the device into a powerd usb 2.0 port (NOT 3.0)
[22:39] <aouldr78> pfifo, here is the message from Vmware server: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:39] <aouldr78> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic-pae/include/linux The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic-pae/include/linux" is an existing directory, but it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[22:39] <cakar> itsonlyname you can cut power of the computer and try again. there is a topic about that here:   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1028767.html
[22:39] <pfifo> aouldr78, tell it this /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic-pae/include
[22:40] <itsonlyme> pfifo: I have no idea which device is causing the problem.
[22:40] <itsonlyme> cakar: I tried power off and unplugging computer.
[22:40] <pfifo> itsonlyme, then remove all USB devices
[22:41] <aouldr78> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[22:41] <aouldr78> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-12-generic-pae/include
[22:41] <aouldr78> The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does not match
[22:41] <aouldr78> your running kernel (version 3.0.0-12-generic-pae).  Even if the module were to
[22:41] <aouldr78> compile successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[22:41] <FloodBot1> aouldr78: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:41] <itsonlyme> pfifo: I removed all usbs now.
[22:41] <Rods_Tiger> is it possible to use wine or something like that to update the firmware of an LG bluray burner?
[22:42] <pfifo> itsonlyme, now try booting with only your drive plugged into a powered 2.0 port
[22:42] <upstairss> Hello all, my grub menu has gone awry after 'update-grub' was run.  Full details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1879993  Help would be must appreciated
[22:42] <pfifo> Rods_Tiger, no that wont work
[22:42] <Rods_Tiger> ah
[22:43] <itsonlyme> pfifo: Still not working.
[22:44] <pfifo> itsonlyme, well that was my only real idea
[22:44] <crablouse7> ret
[22:45] <LSymonds> I spend my saturday night answering questions in the Ubuntu IRC. I have a life.
[22:45] <Nertskull> Can someone point me to information on how to dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu on completely separate hard disks? I was hoping I could just install each on each, and then use my bios to choose which drive to go to?
[22:45] <rockstar09> nert
[22:45] <rockstar09> if you were to do that
[22:46] <rockstar09> when you are in installing the os there will be a part say were will you like to put me
[22:46] <rockstar09> and then you will see both hdd
[22:46] <pfifo> !grub | Nertskull the second link here
[22:46] <pfifo> Nertskull, actually the first
[22:46] <rockstar09> or do tht
[22:46] <rockstar09> xD
[22:46] <pfifo> !tab > rockstar09
[22:47] <rockstar09> mmk
[22:47] <PhoenixSTF> upstairss, you can edit a file on /etc/grub.d/
[22:48] <Nertskull> So I HAVE to use grub? I can't just let each bootloader stay on separate disks and use bios to select which disk to go to?
[22:48] <Nertskull> And change in bios which one to boot first?
[22:48] <pfifo> Nertskull, depends on your bios
[22:49] <pfifo> Nertskull, ubuntu will still need grub installed to boot anyway so you might as well just use it to dual boot
[22:49] <PhoenixSTF> upstairss, you can call it 35_fedora and copy your fedora menu entry to it with the correct drives for grub, but try reading on grub with 2 linux os maybe you have to put /boot on a diferent partition
[22:50] <Nertskull> I just figured since I already have grub and everything working fine on this drive, i would hate to mess things up.
[22:50] <Nertskull> But if that's really the best way, i guess its time to learn grub
[22:50] <badapple> hi guys
[22:50] <badapple> can you help me with watching 1020p movies ?
[22:50] <itsonlyme> No USBs plugged in and computer still doesn't boot, but shows error "unable to enumerate usb device on port 2". Any ideas, assistance?
[22:50] <LSymonds> Do you know what port 2 is?
[22:51] <itsonlyme> No idea.
[22:51] <badapple> somebody knows what i need for watching 1020p mi
[22:51] <badapple> movies
[22:51] <badapple> thank you =) ?
[22:51] <haubuntu> 1080p?
[22:51] <pfifo> !details | badapple
[22:51] <LSymonds> @itsonly me - type lsusb
[22:51] <LSymonds> in terminal
[22:51] <PhoenixSTF> itsonlyme, have you tryed to shut off the USB on bios?
No, I'll try it now.
[22:52] <LSymonds> itsonlyme, type lsusb into terminal if you are in it.
[22:52] <LSymonds> Or boot into a LiveCD and do it.
[22:53] <badapple> pfifo, i try to watch one movie on 1020p but when i start it its lagging it gives me the picture "with pictures"
[22:53] <noes1s> @badapple how old is your computer?
[22:54] <pfifo> badapple, what are ou talking about? a youtube video?
[22:54] <LSymonds> badapple - do you have your graphics driver installed?
[22:54] <LSymonds> badapple - check in the restricted extras.
[22:55] <badapple> pfifo, a downloaded video 1020p
[22:55] <badapple> noes1s, its about 1 year
[22:55] <pfifo> badapple, what software are you using to play the video?
[22:56] <idefix> sometimes my firefox is not there but running, how can you get it back on your screen?
I turned off USB support for mouse and keyboard in bios, still no difference. O/S isn't starting up.
[22:56] <sarti> Hey
[22:56] <badapple> pfifo, edubuntu
[22:56] <pfifo> badapple, i mean what video player are you using?
[22:56] <lsv> anyone using ubuntu 11.10? that knows how to stop an X-session?
[22:56] <noes1s> idefix are you using unity or gnome? (ubuntu 11+ or 10~?)
[22:56] <idefix> it says "A program is still running: firefox-bin" Not Responding
[22:56]  * sarti s'emmerde
[22:57] <idefix> I think I use gnome
[22:57] <haubuntu> idefix, you can kill it per terminal
[22:57] <badapple> pfifo, vlc
[22:57] <sarti> ?
[22:57] <idefix> I know but there was something in it I'd like to save
[22:57] <LSymonds> pkill firefox-bin idefix
[22:57] <noes1s> alt+tab works?
[22:57] <yhahn> i just commented on this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/730629) but maybe someone knows the answer offhand... looks like there's a fix for a problem i'm running into upstream in the linux kernel. is that something i can expect will make its way into oneiric updates?
[22:58] <ikonia> yhahn: possibly, it's up to you to push it through
[22:58] <noes1s> idefix try alt+tab
[22:58] <qin> lsv: sudo service gdm stop (or lightdm for 11.10)
[22:58] <yhahn> ikonia: ok, so the linux-image-3.0.0 kernel package doesn't track linux 3.0.x upstream?
[22:58] <ikonia> yhahn: no
[22:59] <ikonia> yhahn: it's s snapshot of release, it doesn't get updated without reason
[22:59] <yhahn> gotcha, thanks
[22:59] <lsv> qin: would that kill my other X-session?
[22:59] <lsv> this is what I get from ps -ef: root      8501   885  0 16:51 tty8     00:00:03 /usr/bin/X :2 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:2 -nolisten tcp vt8 -novtswitch
[22:59] <nonix4> so... did I read correct, Oneiric banished pretty much all "advanced" stuff from dvd to alternate-cd & repositories? so there's no single image that I can point pxe-server to that'd let users choose between livecd, altcd & normal installer like before? oh well, guess altcd covers most of the stuff besides livecd anyway, right?
[23:00] <derbosepirat> ciaoo
[23:00] <yhahn> ikonia: so the best course of action is to try the 3.0.9 mainline build, confirm (or not) whether it fixes the issue and update the issue as such?
[23:00] <derbosepirat>  
[23:00] <ikonia> yhahn: doubtful as 11.10 will not move to 3.0.9
[23:00] <derbosepirat> raga anonymous operation facebook che fine ha fatto ?
[23:01] <ikonia> derbosepirat: english
[23:01] <kalamajo> I have a newb question
[23:01] <yhahn> ikonia: ok, so confirm just to let others know and then just wait for the next distro upgrade
[23:01] <pfifo> badapple, in vlc goto tools->preferences, then at the bottom of the preferences, click "all" in the show settings box... from there goto Video->Output Modules... on that dialog change the "Video Output module" to "X11 video output"
[23:01] <kalamajo> how do i install ubuntu through "grub:
[23:01] <ikonia> yhahn: bit pointless, but if you want to
[23:01] <ikonia> kalamajo: grub is not an installer, it's a boot loader
[23:01] <yhahn> ok thanks
[23:01] <kalamajo> how do i load the kernel
[23:01] <ikonia> kalamajo: you install via a CD/USB,
[23:02] <kalamajo> yeah
[23:02] <ikonia> !install | kalamajo
[23:02] <kalamajo> i burned an iso
[23:02] <derbosepirat> sorry anonymous operation facebook Digita il testo o l'indirizzo di un sito web oppure traduci un documento.
[23:02] <derbosepirat> Annulla
[23:02] <derbosepirat> Traduzione da Trovato italiano verso inglese
[23:02] <kalamajo> and i tried through a USB drive
[23:02] <derbosepirat> italiano
[23:02] <FloodBot1> derbosepirat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:02] <derbosepirat> inglese
[23:02] <derbosepirat> anonymous operation facebook what happened?
[23:02] <badapple> pfifo, luego ?
[23:02] <ikonia> !it | derbosepirat
[23:02] <badapple> pfifo,  sorry  i mean then ?
[23:03] <pfifo> badapple, then click save, and close vlc, then try watching your video again
[23:03] <derbosepirat> ubottu thanks
[23:04] <badapple> pfifo, but i didnt make nothing o.O ...
[23:04] <pfifo> badapple, sorry, i can only give support in english, if you cant understand what im telling you todo there isnt anything i can do about it
[23:05] <badapple> pfifo, i made it
[23:05] <badapple> pfifo, i will try now =)
[23:06] <badapple> pfifo, thanks that helped a little =) ..
[23:06] <pfifo> badapple, ou can try the other video modules too, one of them may work better
[23:06] <pfifo> badapple, you can try the other video modules too, one of them may work better
[23:07] <pfifo> badapple, just make sure to exit out of vlc before you test other wise the changes wont take effect
[23:07] <badapple> pfifo, ok whick one ?
[23:07] <pfifo> badapple, try them all 1 by 1
[23:08] <badapple> ok
[23:12] <Kangarooo> is there an alternative to VirtualBox ubuntu testing?
[23:12] <ikonia> Kangarooo: what ?
[23:12] <LSymonds> Kangaroo ?
[23:13] <LSymonds> Kangaroo - Are you wanting to use an alternate program to VBox?
[23:13] <LSymonds> If so @kangarooo, then this link: http://alternativeto.net/software/virtualbox/ has some great alternatives!
[23:14] <Kangarooo> i can test Ubuntu using VirtualBox. i found programm Testdrive maybe theres some better tools to test somtimes bugs i find. VirtualBox i cant get same results as when using Live USB or installed. In virtualbox all is working but when USB live then other bugs and when installed then more bugs
[23:15] <LSymonds> Kangarooo: VirtualBox isn't going to be the same as a LiveCD as it is a Virtual machine. Why not dual boot it and test it there?
[23:15] <Genjie> hello all....
[23:15] <ikonia> Kangarooo: virtualisation will use generic hardware components as it's emmulation, not all bugs will be replicated in any type of virtualisation
[23:15] <rchrdcrg> forgive my randomness, but wow... haven't been in an IRC chatroom in life half a decade... wheee
[23:16] <LSymonds> rchrdcrg: Hello :)
[23:16] <Kangarooo> some bugs ive reported are for older versions and i dont want to install old versions - takes time to re-Gpartition to free space and install
[23:16] <LSymonds> Spelt your name wrong, forgive me haha.
[23:16] <LSymonds> Kangarooo: I don't understand what you are trying to do?
[23:17] <theshadow> I'm having issues importing urllib.request.urlopen in python3 on ubuntu lucid. I'm getting the error in the following url, can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/syw1YWqK
[23:17] <ikonia> Kangarooo: most bugs will turn up on virtualisation as long as they are not hardware component (or software kernel module) related
[23:17] <aguitel> how to configure power management in gnome 3?
[23:17] <LSymonds> aguitel: gconftool should help you!
[23:17] <Genjie> .............sdfasdf
[23:18] <ikonia> Genjie: please don't do that
[23:18] <matthewgall> theshadow: What version of Python are you using?
[23:18] <Genjie> test....
[23:18] <Kangarooo> LSymonds: cant reproduce bugs on virtualbox and installing takes too much time or whole computer to test all bugs ive ever experienced in clean installations and on updated installations so i need many installed partitions. That all takes too much time. Is there a way to save time? Virtualization even with restart but where i can test like when its installed.
[23:18] <ikonia> Genjie: please stop that
[23:18] <theshadow> matthewgall: python 3.2
[23:19] <theshadow> Happens on 3.1 as well.
[23:19] <aguitel> LSymonds, how to launch it ?
[23:19] <Genjie> 123
[23:19] <LSymonds> aguitel: It is a command line tool.
[23:20] <LSymonds> Kangarooo: Of course you can't, it's virtualisation which means it is using the hardware which is currently working on your system. For best results you should do it on a seperate partition, machine or use Wubi if you are on Windows.
[23:20] <Genjie> all...
[23:20] <ikonia> Genjie: final warning - stop it
[23:20] <Kangarooo> LSymonds: i have already 3 versions of Ubuntu triple booting and i need more to test fixes for HW on one comp. I have bugs on other comps also. takes whole day...
[23:20] <ikonia> Genjie: it's an ubuntu support channel, that is the topic, please test elsewhere
[23:20] <ikonia> Kangarooo: you won't be able to do hardware testing in a VM
[23:20] <Kangarooo> ok
[23:21] <Genjie> l
[23:27] <pfifo> Im running a 10.04 livecd, what is the best way to make ice cream using eggnog instead of milk?
[23:27] <ikonia> pfifo: please don't
[23:28] <qmanjr5> Could someone help me figure out why Transmission is downloading so slowly? I have nothing else downloading, and it's from a torrent with many seeds.
[23:29] <pfifo> qmanjr5, is your port open?
[23:29] <qmanjr5> As far as I know. It's usually as fast as possible, but the past couple days has been extremely slow
[23:29] <Kangarooo> qmanjr5: inet speed slow. settings change max users per all/ per torrent 400 should 100% be enought
[23:30] <lsv> qmanjr5: try using qbittorrent.
[23:30] <qmanjr5> Kangarooo, what
[23:30] <qmanjr5> lsv, okay I shall
[23:30] <LSymonds> FatRat is good.
[23:30] <LSymonds> Don't know if it does torrents though @qmanjr5
[23:30] <Kangarooo> qmanjr5: inet=internet settings= tools/edit =>settings
[23:30] <Guest5149> Is it?
[23:31] <pfifo> qmanjr5, did you accidentaly click theturtle button?
[23:31] <qmanjr5> pfifo, nope. First thing I checked.
[23:32] <bjrohan> I recently adjusted my HD partitions, including my swap part.  In doing so I had to use boot-repair to get grub to work correctly. Do I need to do anything special to get Ubuntu to see and use the swap partition?
[23:32] <pfifo> qmanjr5, and your port is forwarded through your router? (or direct connection to the internet)
[23:32] <iceroot> bjrohan: swap must be named in /etc/fstab
[23:32] <qmanjr5> Unfortunately, I have no idea. It's always worked at full speeds before now, so I've never bothered to check what's going on with the ports
[23:33] <Kangarooo> ah yes- in transmision left bottom is turtle and left from it is limit speed. check that to be unlimited. otherwise somebody else in home using net very fast or check system tools if u not dl something else aka using net speed already- all of it
[23:33] <firmevato> My harddrive and wireless  lights are blinking like crazy, but I don't think I have anything running that should be taxing my system so hard. How can I check what's using all my bandwidth and running the harddrive in ubuntu 10.04? Thanks in advance!
[23:33] <pfifo> qmanjr5, goto the network tab in prefrences and click the test port button
[23:33] <LSymonds> qmanjr5 have you tried FatRat?
[23:33] <kalamajo> everytime i try to install ubuntu or load it, the screen goes blank
[23:34] <qmanjr5> It has to be Transmisison, as qBittorent is full speed
[23:34] <kalamajo> and doesnt do anything
[23:34] <bjrohan> iceroot, from what I can tell, it is not listed I have a line that says swap was on /dev/sda5 my swap is now /dev/sda2, how do I rectify correctly?
[23:34] <qmanjr5> Port is closed it says...
[23:34] <qmanjr5> Odd
[23:34] <Kangarooo> kalamajo: is it 11.04 or 11.10 yes? but not 10.04 right?
[23:34] <qmanjr5> which port should I be using?
[23:34] <LSymonds> qmanjr5: Edit -> Preferences -> Speed see if anything is checked.
[23:34] <kalamajo> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-
[23:34] <LSymonds> qmanjr5: 51413
[23:34] <pfifo> qmanjr5, 51413 is the default port
[23:34] <qmanjr5> LSymonds, nothing
[23:35] <qmanjr5> Yeah, that's what is listed
[23:35] <qmanjr5> but it's closed....
[23:35] <qmanjr5> And I've never changed it
[23:35] <LSymonds> Ah right.
[23:35] <LSymonds> Mine is closed also and it downloads at full speed.
[23:35] <kalamajo> is it my video card?
[23:35] <qmanjr5> What
[23:35] <qmanjr5> That's odd.
[23:35] <kalamajo> i have an ati 5850 and a 58530
[23:35] <kalamajo> i tried both
[23:35] <LSymonds> qmanjr5: Try and enable them anyway, worth a try.
[23:35] <kalamajo> same result tho
[23:35] <Kangarooo> kalamajo: try reproducint bug im having on eMachines e525. before pressing enter to start live session change brightnes down and up for 1 in/de creasment and then enter live and if works- tell me
[23:36] <pfifo> qmanjr5, my guess is that another computer requested 51413 via UPnP and you router currently has it assigned to that computer, try changing the port to something else and restart transmission, then test again
[23:38] <qmanjr5> pfifo, no other computers on my network. Just a PS3
[23:38] <qmanjr5> what port should I change it to?
[23:38] <LSymonds> 1337
[23:38] <LSymonds> "for the lulz?"
[23:38] <qmanjr5> Lol :P
[23:38] <LSymonds> Anything really
[23:38] <LSymonds> makes no difference
[23:38] <qmanjr5> Status Unkown
[23:38] <qmanjr5> XD
[23:38] <pfifo> qmanjr5, it dosent matter, anything above 1024 is fine... no not 1337 your ISP might block it
[23:39] <LSymonds> Jeeze I'm tired.
[23:40] <qmanjr5> pfifo, LSymonds nothing.
[23:40] <kalamajo> how do you increase brightness while in that menu
[23:40] <LSymonds> I have no idea then qmanjr5, can you use another program for the time being?
[23:40] <pfifo> qmanjr5, well then go into your router and manually forward a port
[23:40] <LSymonds> Maybe there is a bug or something.
[23:41] <qmanjr5> LSymonds, Yeah, I guess I'll use qBittorrent. When I add a torrent to qBittorent...how the hell do I choose which files to download?
[23:41] <qmanjr5> :P
[23:41] <LSymonds> Don't know qmanjr5, never used it.
[23:42] <qmanjr5> Damn
[23:42] <qmanjr5> :P
[23:42] <nes> hey..
[23:42] <kalamajo> im not on a laptop
[23:42] <bjrohan> How can I tell if Ubuntu is recognizing my swap space?
[23:42] <kalamajo> so i cant fn+whatever
[23:43] <pfifo> bjrohan, swapon -a
[23:43] <zykotick9> bjrohan, "free" does it show swap?
[23:43] <theshadow> I'm having issues importing urllib.request.urlopen in python3 on ubuntu lucid. I'm getting the error in the following url, can anyone help? http://pastebin.com/syw1YWqK
[23:44] <pfifo> bjrohan, sorry swapon -s
[23:44] <bjrohan> pfifo and zykitick9 nope :-( swapon -a gives this swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=5adf542e-d551-4de8-abe4-5eabe1674641
[23:44] <bjrohan> free shows: swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=5adf542e-d551-4de8-abe4-5eabe1674641
[23:44] <zykotick9> bjrohan, check your fstab
[23:44] <LSymonds> theshadow: can you post all of your code?
[23:45] <bjrohan> zykotick9 - what am I looking for? i have a line commented out that says where it was during installation, but that /dev no longer exists after adjusting partitions
[23:46] <zykotick9> bjrohan, the UUID for your swap is probably not correct
[23:46] <theshadow> LSymonds: do you mean the error code?
[23:46] <firmevato> My harddrive and wireless  lights are blinking like crazy, but I don't think I have anything running that should be taxing my system so hard. How can I check what's using all my bandwidth and running the harddrive in ubuntu 10.04? Thanks in advance!
[23:46] <LSymonds> theshadow: No, your program.
[23:46] <zykotick9> bjrohan, you can use "sudo blkid" to see what's it really is, then be sure that same UUID is in your fstab
[23:47] <slong002> I installed Ubuntu 11.10 alongside Vista Home a month ago.  The machine has been used only for websurfing with no problems until this afternoon.  Now, the wired internet connection fails shorty after booting, but Ubuntu shows no problems with internet connectivty.  However, it works briefly after rebooting.  Connection is great with Vista.  Any ideas?
[23:47] <theshadow> LSymonds, we were just trying to import from that and it's failing
[23:47] <LSymonds> I think you have to import the whole module
[23:47] <LSymonds> import urllib
[23:48] <theshadow> that succeds but then we can't request urlopen. it doesn't exist.
[23:49] <theborger> hey do i need Compiz running?
[23:49] <bjrohan> zykotick9 There is nothing correct in my fstab for the swap partition, the dev name, nor UUID
[23:49] <zykotick9> theborger, are you using unity3d?  if so, then yes.
[23:49] <LSymonds> Wait
[23:49] <LSymonds> it's httplib
[23:49] <LSymonds> theshadow try httplib
[23:49] <theborger> zykotick9: i just have gnome running, using xbox media center on this pc
[23:50] <usr13> slong002: Not much to go on here.....
[23:50] <zykotick9> bjrohan, use one or the other UUID or dev name - not both.  Correct it then.
[23:50] <zykotick9> theborger, if you're using gnome then it's optional, you cause use metacity instead
[23:50] <usr13> slong002: ... you are not telling us what sort of problem you are having with internet connectivity.
[23:50] <bjrohan> zykotick9, I can enable in gparted, then apply changes correct?
[23:50] <zykotick9> s/cause/could/
[23:51] <Kangarooo> kalamajo: ah i thought ur in laptop maybe then u have some other bug. u can make attention to user to who ur writing in irc by start writing first letter of nick then [tab]
[23:51] <zykotick9> bjrohan, ahhh, i'm not touching that one.  good luck.
[23:51] <bjrohan> zykotick9,  Actually I enabled on Gparted by right clicking on it then selecting swapon, but it doesn't allow me to apply
[23:52] <zykotick9> bjrohan, sorry i can't help further, good luck.
[23:52] <bjrohan> zykotick9 my mental issue wit fstab is that the line is commented out and all wrong that is why I am hesitant to manually change it
[23:52] <jiujimk> use gparted with sudo command
[23:52] <kalamajo> Kangarooo ok
[23:52] <usr13> slong002: Lost IP address?  Lost route?  Unable to resolve domain name?  or...?
[23:52] <kalamajo> Kangarooo: I am pretty sure its the video card
[23:53] <slong002> usr13: Unable to resolve domain name
[23:53] <kalamajo> because everything is fine, then the monitor just shuts down, like going into stand by mode
[23:53] <kalamajo> brb going to take this monitor over there and see if that will work for some reason
[23:54] <usr13> slong002: Ok then.  Try editing /etc/resolv.conf and see what's there, see if that IP can be pinged, replace it with a known-to-be-good nameserver.
[23:54] <usr13> etc...
[23:54] <garret> Hello, has anyone had success installing the NVIDIA drivers on a laptop with the 310M support.  I have been trying all of the on-line support pages with no success.
[23:54] <theshadow> LSymonds: it says "no module named httplib"
[23:54] <SirTheSurfer> Hullo! I've got irritating problem here: http://img228.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img228/3927/problempl.png                                                        Now, how am I supposed to close that terminal?
[23:54] <usr13> See if you can ping a known-to-be-good nameserver.
[23:54] <LSymonds> garret: Have you gone into the restricted extras?
[23:55] <Kangarooo> wow kalamajo thats some other bug im having but not nice one
[23:55] <usr13> slong002: What country are you in?
[23:55] <slong002> usr13: Thanks. US
[23:55] <usr13> slong002: try 4.4.4.4  or 8.8.8.8
[23:55] <usr13> or what ever your ISP suggests
[23:56] <LSymonds> Are you using python3-minimal?
[23:56] <garret> LSyonds: Thank you, I installed the xubuntu-restricted-extras and can find the downloads.  When I install them they will not load, or when they do boot up fails.
[23:56] <usr13> slong002: Scratch 4.4.4.4  Try 4.2.2.2
[23:56] <zykotick9> SirTheSurfer, "exit"
[23:56] <slong002> usr13: Ok  Thanks.
[23:57] <pfifo> SirTheSurfer, you can hold alt and drag the window with the left mouse button
[23:57] <usr13> slong002: And make sure there is only one (valid) DHCP server on your LAN.
[23:58] <theshadow> LSymonds: how can I check?
[23:58] <slong002> usr13: tht could be the problem.  running a wireless router and a dsl router.
[23:59] <firmevato> My harddrive and wireless  lights are blinking like crazy, but I don't think I have anything running that should be taxing my system so hard. How can I check what's using all my bandwidth and running the harddrive in ubuntu 10.04? Thanks in advance!