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[00:10] <homebrewcider> cam someone help me please, I have xubuntu 11.04 installed, but mp3 files  won't play on vlc, kaffeine, parole.....I thought I had all codecs installed
[00:11] <beardygnome> homebrewcider: have you installed gstreamer-plugins-ugly?
[00:11] <beardygnome> (i think that's what it's called)
[00:11] <madnick> vlc should pull everything relevant
[00:11] <beardygnome> or xubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:16] <homebrewcider> vlc pulled nothing, I have the restricted extras
[00:20] <homebrewcider> and beardy as for the "ugly" thing, said no such package
[00:21] <GridCube> homebrewcider, run alsa-mixer and see that you have everithing unmutted
[00:22] <homebrewcider> ok but what does that have to do with it?
[00:22] <GridCube> that you might be playing and you just don't hear
[00:23] <homebrewcider> no, i get an error message
[00:24] <homebrewcider> The format of 'file:///home/mal/Music/file.mp3' cannot be detected. Have a look at the log for details.
[00:24] <homebrewcider> log?
[00:24] <homebrewcider> I can't find a log
[00:28] <beardygnome> on my 11.10 system it's gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[00:29] <beardygnome> just posting mine
[00:30] <beardygnome> the bottom panel autohides and has a (virtually) transparent background
[00:30] <beardygnome> sorry, wrong chat window
[00:32] <policecopfed> i've been looking around for the file where i can change "in the workspace switcher, can i change the contrast between active and inactive windows?" but can't find it.
[00:32] <policecopfed> anyone know where i should be looking?
[00:34] <beardygnome> menu -> settings -> settings manager -> window manager tweaks -> compositor
[00:35] <beardygnome> ?
[00:39] <policecopfed> i don't have window manager tweaks :(
[00:39] <beardygnome> oh
[00:40] <beardygnome> what xubuntu are you running?
[00:41] <policecopfed> 4.8?
[00:43] <policecopfed> sorry, that's the xfce version
[00:43] <policecopfed> Linux version 3.0.0-12-generic (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.6.1 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) ) #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011
[00:43] <policecopfed> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[00:43] <policecopfed> DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10
[00:43] <policecopfed> DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric
[00:43] <policecopfed> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10"
[00:44] <beardygnome> so you have the latest version....
[00:44] <beardygnome> what make of graphics card are you using?]
[00:45] <policecopfed> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[00:46] <beardygnome> i'd have thought that intel graphics should be able to handle the effects
[00:49] <beardygnome> i'm not sure what else to suggest, as far as i can tell, the window manager tweaks should be present by default
[00:49] <Artemis3> try lspci -v
[00:50] <Artemis3> the model is very important
[00:50] <policecopfed> nima@nl:~$ lspci -v | grep VGA
[00:50] <policecopfed> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[00:51] <policecopfed> ah sorry
[00:51] <policecopfed> Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 0007
[00:52] <policecopfed> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 41
[00:52] <policecopfed> Memory at 90000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M]
[00:52] <policecopfed> Memory at 80000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[00:52] <policecopfed> I/O ports at 3050 [size=8]
[00:52] <policecopfed> Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled]
[00:52] <policecopfed> Capabilities: <access denied>
[00:52] <policecopfed> Kernel driver in use: i915
[00:52] <policecopfed> Kernel modules: i915
[00:53] <Artemis3> and its not working?
[00:54] <policecopfed> apparently not, but i can live with that
[00:54] <policecopfed> the main issue is the colours on the workspace switcher
[00:54] <policecopfed> is there a more direct way to modify them?
[00:55] <Artemis3> so the compositor doesnt work?
[00:56] <Artemis3> not like it matters
[00:57] <policecopfed> it does, it's a bit annoying when you have 20 terminals open in each workspace to take the time to figure out which is which
[00:57] <policecopfed> i have to move my face 10cm from my monitor to tell a difference between the colours
[00:57] <Artemis3> mine shows a blueish thing
[00:57] <policecopfed> so i just end up randomly switching
[00:57] <Artemis3> but i think it depends on the theme
[03:06] <atruno-> how do you use samba with xubuntu 11.10 ?
[03:30] <holstein> atruno-: depends on what you want to do, but its going to be the same as with ubuntu pretty much
[03:31] <holstein> maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComprehensiveSambaGuide would be a good read for you?
[03:54] <HoserHead> Has someone had an issue where if they plug in a webcam, the wireless connection drops out?
[03:54] <HoserHead> I have a USB wireless dongle and a USB webcam, and it seems to be one or the other, but not both
[03:55] <HoserHead> *USB dongle for wireless and USB webcam
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[03:59] <holstein> HoserHead: that could be a hardware problem, but you could check the bios and see if you can give different IRQ settings to different usb ports
[03:59] <holstein> i find they are typically on the same one
[04:01] <HoserHead> that's something I haven't thought of
[04:02] <HoserHead> I'll give it a shot, brb
[04:02] <holstein> HoserHead:
[04:02] <holstein> you can run cat /proc/interrupts in a terminal
[04:04] <HoserHead> k, I just did but I'm not sure what I'm reading in the output
[04:05] <holstein> 23:      88802        975   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2
[04:05] <holstein> for example... thats 2 USB ports or devices sharing an IRQ
[04:06] <HoserHead> Here are the lines that mention usb:
[04:06] <holstein> its challening to tell what is what
[04:06] <HoserHead>  20:      17122   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ohci_hcd:usb3
[04:06] <HoserHead>  21:      10299   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ohci_hcd:usb2, NVidia nForce2
[04:06] <HoserHead>  22:     952514   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1, eth0
[04:06] <holstein> not much easier in the bios
[04:06] <holstein> hmmm
[04:06] <HoserHead> the NVidia one is kinda funny
[04:06] <HoserHead> eth0 I get, its a USB wireless dongle
[04:07] <HoserHead> but all I have plugegd into USB are the keyboard, Mouse and dongle
[04:07] <holstein> HoserHead: thats plausible... and you can check the bios
[04:07] <HoserHead> is there a way to check the BIOS without rebooting?
[04:08] <holstein> HoserHead: that pretty much tells you whats what
[04:13] <GridCube> this is happenign a lot lately http://imagebin.org/183738
[04:13] <GridCube> the grey boxes
[04:13] <GridCube> they wont go away until i restart xfwm4
[04:16] <w30> any one besides me have their desktop icons playing musical chairs on every reboot?
[04:16] <GridCube> ?
[04:20] <w30> GridCube, they are still their even after the desktop redraws? like moving a window over the gray boxes
[04:21] <w30> there
[04:21] <GridCube> yes
[04:21] <w30> GridCube, ouch...
[04:22] <GridCube> they are the shadows under name tags and stuff
[04:24] <wereyoda> good morning!
[04:24] <GridCube> http://imagebin.org/183741
[04:25] <w30> GridCube, was something there at one time that profiled that silhouette?
[04:25] <GridCube> and its also on top of other windows
[04:25] <wereyoda> ere I set X-default mouse pointer size?
[04:26] <wereyoda> where..
[04:28] <GridCube> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HyhsMPDyyN-mRWRujfZX3JuKX9aWFQPWsxMEiJX99gQ/edit?hl=es&pli=1
[04:28] <GridCube> question 8 wereyoda
[04:29] <wereyoda> thanks
[04:40] <GridCube> w30, yes as said its the shadow of a nametag
[04:47] <w30> GridCube, nothing I have  had any experience with helps me understand what's going on.
[04:48] <GridCube> i blame me usin the stylus on a touchscreen
[04:49] <w30> GridCube, like it should have text in it and fade away in a second or so.
[04:49] <GridCube> im guessing xfwm4 doesnt recognizes that i've moved the pointer
[04:50] <GridCube> and still thinks it has to draw a shadow there
[04:51] <w30> GridCube, can you opt for a real mouse and double check that?
[04:52] <w30> GridCube, whatever it is it's crazy
[04:52] <GridCube> i could use the touchpad yes, but the event is random and i dont see how to force it to happen
[04:53] <w30> GridCube, great, just plain great.
[04:54] <GridCube> ja
[04:55] <GridCube> yes!
[04:55] <GridCube> i made it happen using the stylus
[04:56] <w30> GridCube, "plain" substitutes for the "bad word"
[04:56] <GridCube> ja
[04:56] <GridCube> XD
[04:56] <GridCube> okay so apparently is firefox fault
[04:58] <w30> GridCube, maybe look for bug reports where ever
[04:58] <GridCube> i should
[04:59] <w30> GridCube, although any bug I ever have there is never an answer until 2 years later
[05:00] <GridCube> that be bugzilla?
[05:01] <GridCube> i have "connections" on launchpad tho, and by "connections" i mean i will bother people to answer me
[05:02] <GridCube> well time to sleep i guess
[05:02] <GridCube> its 2 o'clock
[05:02] <GridCube> :D
[05:02] <GridCube> have a good day people
[05:06] <wereyoda> still mouse pointer is same
[05:10] <wereyoda> sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[05:10] <wereyoda>  that command do the trick but I need size to change too
[05:10] <w30> any one besides me have their desktop icons playing musical chairs on every reboot?
[05:11] <w30> how do you nail them down?
[05:15] <well_laid_lawn> tried saving the session?
[05:28] <homebrewcider> hi, xubuntu 11.04, vlc, parole, kaffeine installed, none of them will play mp3 files at all, can someone help please
[05:31] <well_laid_lawn> !mp3
[05:31] <ubottu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:49] <wereyoda> fufufufu mouse pointe size changes from desktop to app
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[08:56] <rohn> hi all
[08:56] <rohn> can anyone help me??
[08:56] <knome> try asking the question and let's see
[08:59] <rohn> every time i start my computer it shows this problem
[08:59] <rohn> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/207/img20111112005642.jpg/
[09:00] <rohn> please help me to solve this problem
[09:01] <rohn> after clicking ok it starts in low graphics mode
[09:03] <Sysi> what graphics card do you have, matrox?
[09:06] <rohn> Sysi, i have a msi mobo with on board graphics which share 64mb from ram
[09:07] <Sysi> please pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com) output of lspci (in terminal)
[09:08] <rohn> ok
[09:10] <Asche_> Hi all
[09:24] <knome> rohn, also please paste the pastebin url here
[09:27] <rohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/736019/
[09:28] <knome> Sysi,
[09:32] <Sysi> rohn: ubuntu 10.10?
[09:32] <rohn> xubuntu 10.04
[09:33] <Sysi> search for "openchrome" in synaptic
[09:35] <rohn> it says that openchrome is already installed
[09:35] <Pob> Hi, I have installed xubuntu 11.10 on my old laptop for my 3 year old son to play with.
[09:35] <Pob> Works great with Tux Paint, but some games like SuperTux2 will not run properly with constant freezes.
[09:35] <Pob> The freezes also happen when coming out of screensaver and last for around 10-20 seconds including the mouse curser.
[09:35] <Pob> The PC is an Arima W720-K7 with 1G RAM and an ATI Radeon IGP-320M Chipset.
[09:36] <Pob> I have checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:37] <Pob> :~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[09:37] <Pob> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1 [1002:4336]
[09:37] <rohn> Sysi, please help ma
[09:38] <rohn> me
[09:38] <shadow193> Hi all I have a problem with my microphone. Im running the newest xubuntu amd64 platform on laptop : lenovo g570. Skype doesnt discover my integrated mic...there is only : Pulseaudio server(local) in capture options...can someone help?
[09:38] <Sysi> rohn: uh, you need to create and edit xorg.conf
[09:39] <rohn> can yo tell me the procedure Sysi
[09:40] <Pob> Would someone be able to give me a few pointers sorting this and confirming OpenGL is functioning properly?
[09:40] <Sysi> rohn: log out, press Ctrl Alt F6 and login to that terminal, run 'sudo service gdm stop' and 'sudo Xorg -configure' and then 'sudo reboot' and see what happens
[09:40] <ball> I'm starting to wonder whether X.org hate us.
[09:41] <Sysi> Pob: first check 'less ~/.xsesion-errors"
[09:41] <Pob> Or is the PC just too under spec'ed?  Seems to run fine with ~20% RAM usage normally and CPU not loaded up too much.
[09:42] <Sysi> oh typo, "less ~/.xsession-errors"
[09:50] <Pob> Thank's Sysi spotted that.  File is a couple of pages, anything in particular I am looking for?  A lot of info messages,  will have a better look.
[09:51] <Pob> Error: No running window found
[09:51] <Pob> (xfce4-terminal:1546): Gdk-CRITICAL **: IA__gdk_window_get_window_type: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[09:51] <Sysi> everything with "error" at least and maybe something about GL
[09:52] <Pob> (xfce4-indicator-plugin:1319): Gtk-CRITICAL **: IA__gtk_widget_realize: assertion `GTK_WIDGET_ANCHORED (widget) || GTK_IS_I
[09:52] <Pob> NVISIBLE (widget)' failed
[09:54] <Sysi> Pob: pastebin everything, and check 'dmesg'
[09:54] <Pob> Error: No running window found, is the only error msg
[09:55] <Sysi> warnings?
[09:56] <Pob> (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:1190): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Failed to register client: The name org.gnome.Sessio
[09:56] <Pob> nManager was not provided by any .service files
[09:56] <Pob> (xfce4-settings-helper:1264): xfce4-settings-helper-WARNING **: Failed to get the _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS property.
[09:56] <Pob> (xfce4-indicator-plugin:1319): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `(null)' to `GtkWidget'
[09:57] <Sysi> those few errors maybe indicate something being wrong with graphics driver
[09:59] <Pob> IRC is pretty new to me, not real familiar with paste bin.  Did I need to filter dmesg for anything in particular?
[10:00] <Sysi> do you see errors or warnings?
[10:00] <Sysi> it could also be that GPU just isn't enough, expecially if drivers aren't very good
[10:08] <Pob> Sysi: I don't see anything obvious in dmesg.  KMS seems to load the correct driver (RS100) for the GPU
[10:10] <Pob> I will paste bin if you can guide me
[10:11] <Sysi> I guess opengl/gpu just isn't powerful enough
[10:12] <Pob> Okay, I didn't think I was asking too much from it.
[10:15] <Pob> Sysi: Thanks for your help
[10:26] <ball> Sysi: What are you trying to do?
[10:26] <Sysi> math homework
[10:39] <ball> Sysi: Wouldn't that be more of an OpenCL thing than OpenGL?
[10:52] <jmcantrell> is there any way to change a specific folder icon?
[10:55] <well_laid_lawn> you can add an emblem to it
[10:55] <well_laid_lawn> right click the folder
[10:56] <jmcantrell> yeah, but that's not what i'm talking about
[10:57] <well_laid_lawn> well folders don't have icons
[10:57] <jmcantrell> certain ones do... desktop, downloads, music, etc
[10:57] <Sysi> shortly, you can't
[11:25] <steph7> do you know where find amazing xfce themes for xubuntu oo?
[11:29] <well_laid_lawn> !themes
[11:29] <ubottu> To change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager » Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager » Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/ or http://gnome-look.org/ (for GTK+ themes)
[11:30] <steph7> thanksss
[11:31] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[11:34] <steph7> ! compiz
[11:34] <ubottu> Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz
[11:34] <steph7> ! emerald
[11:34] <ubottu> emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.
[11:34] <steph7> as understood, I'm thinking to install compiz on xubuntu...
[11:53] <feeeeR> I'm installing xubuntu, but I do not see the progress bar up
[11:54] <feeeeR> is rare
[11:55] <steph7> feeeeR, desktop or alternate?
[11:56] <feeeeR> Desktop
[11:56] <feeeeR> What is the difference?
[12:06] <feeeeR> seems to be stopped :(
[12:06] <feeeeR> has installed more than half hour
[12:09] <steph7> try the alternate if you can
[12:10] <feeeeR> well was installed
[12:12] <feeeeR> but now, in my grub there are two versions of ubuntu, ubuntu and xubuntu
[12:12] <feeeeR> I'll have to see how to change the name to avoid wrong
[12:15] <feeeeR> is fast xubuntu, i like it
[12:19] <feeeeR> is a good distribution
[16:44] <likemindead> No matter how much I distro-hop, I always come back to Xubuntu! :D
[17:38] <stephan_> hello all.
[17:38] <stephan_> i just installed xubuntu on my laptop. i want to bind my function key Fn-F4 to "suspend"
[17:38] <stephan_> but if i go to the keyboard shortcuts i can't define Fn-F4
[17:38] <stephan_> any suggestions?
[17:44] <TheSheep> stephan_: why not?
[17:44] <TheSheep> stephan_: there shouldn't be any problem with that
[17:44] <stephan_> ah stupid me... seems that i pushed ctrl + f4 :)
[17:44] <stephan_> tia
[17:44] <TheSheep> stephan_: you can also use that, you just need to redefine the functions that are bound to those keys already in window manager settings
[17:46] <stephan_> works like a charm.
[18:31] <turbokumbi> hi
[18:32] <GridCube> :)
[18:32] <GridCube> hello
[18:32] <turbokumbi> i have just installed xubuntu, but i am facing sound problems..
[18:33] <turbokumbi> can you help me? :P
[18:33] <GridCube> sooo. apparently i deleted the sound applet thingy on my panel and i can seem to find it again
[18:33] <GridCube> sure turbokumbi tell me whats your problem
[18:33] <GridCube> :) if i can i will try to help you
[18:35] <GridCube> please turbokumbi ask me here ok? :)
[18:35] <turbokumbi> alright then
[18:36] <GridCube> so, lspci doesnt show your card?
[18:36] <GridCube> and lsusb?
[18:36] <turbokumbi> no, it can't find it
[18:37] <GridCube> care you to pastebin the results of lsusb and lspci please :)
[18:37] <turbokumbi> lsusb does, lol
[18:38] <turbokumbi> http://pastebin.com/cd8rAv4L
[18:39] <turbokumbi> http://pastebin.com/HwPw9gZU
[18:39] <GridCube> :) there you have it :P you have an usb audio card
[18:39] <turbokumbi> what am i missing?
[18:40] <GridCube> dunno
[18:40] <GridCube> it doesnt work?
[18:40] <turbokumbi> nope
[18:40] <GridCube> http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/10/04/how-to-get-usb-sound-adapter-0d8c000c-working-as-primary-sound-card-in-debian-linux/
[18:42] <turbokumbi> i'll give it a try
[18:42] <turbokumbi> thanks ;)
[18:43] <GridCube> :) good luck turbokumbi
[18:44] <turbokumbi> something else
[18:44] <turbokumbi> is there a problem with the extra-repo? i tried to install the restricted-extras package, but apt claims it can't fetch flashplugin-installer..
[18:48] <GridCube> oh
[18:48] <GridCube> the flash updated today so you might need to sudo apt-get update :)
[18:49] <turbokumbi> i did
[18:49] <turbokumbi> in fact, i've been updating it every ten minutes, but still.. :D
[18:52] <GridCube> oh, don't know then
[18:52] <GridCube> :P
[18:53] <nlsthzn> question about Firefox, if I move my mouse to the extreme right to click on the scrollbar, I click on the edge of the window instead.  I then have to move ever so slightly to the left and then I am on the scrollbar. Can this be changed, really breaking my speed.
[18:54] <GridCube> nlsthzn, ochosi should know
[18:54] <GridCube> but i think you need another window manager theme
[18:55] <nlsthzn> GridCube: OK, thanks for the info...  I will see if I find one I like and that works for that, else I will try again when I see ochosi online :)
[18:57] <GridCube> :)
[18:57] <xubuntu069> hey guys
[18:57] <GridCube> sup
[19:01] <turbokumbi> no success.. :(
[19:01] <xubuntu069> ok need to reboot to finish my installation :D
[19:02] <GridCube> :D
[19:02] <GridCube> turbokumbi, :o
[19:02] <GridCube> sorry bro
[19:02] <GridCube> im afraid there is no much more i can do
[19:03] <nlsthzn> turbokumbi: have you tried changing from which server you are updating your repos...
[19:04] <GridCube> turbokumbi, what does alsa-mixer says? you might have mutted the sound?
[19:04] <turbokumbi> i've already checked alsamixer
[19:04] <turbokumbi> it's on 100%
[19:04] <turbokumbi> so no, it is definitely not muted :D
[19:05] <GridCube> and the pulse audio one?
[19:06] <turbokumbi> pulseaudio has stuff like that? :o
[19:06] <GridCube> yes
[19:06] <GridCube> ah
[19:06] <GridCube> its mmm, its...
[19:07] <GridCube> !pulseaudio
[19:07] <ubottu> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[19:07] <GridCube> pavucontrol!
[19:07] <GridCube> :D
[19:14] <turbokumbi> okay
[19:14] <turbokumbi> i suffered a mild heart attack because of the volume levels
[19:14] <turbokumbi> :P
[19:14] <turbokumbi> but it works, thanks
[19:18] <GridCube> :D
[19:18] <GridCube> turbokumbi, it was muted then?
[19:20] <turbokumbi> apparently..
[19:20] <turbokumbi> or i had to set it as fallback device
[19:20] <turbokumbi> guess we'll never know the truth now.. :D
[19:20] <GridCube> :D
[19:21]  * GridCube gives himself a cockie
[19:21] <turbokumbi> thanks for everything
[19:23] <turbokumbi> is there a way to change the appearance of the cursor / make terminal open up in a specified size (say, 132*43) ?
[19:24] <turbokumbi> by cursor i mean the one in the terminal..
[19:24] <GridCube> don't really know
[19:24] <GridCube> i don't think so tho
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[19:53] <knome> yakeb-afar, please don't use awaynicks.
[21:53] <wooo> yo
[22:03] <mrhankeybelieve>  /part
[22:09] <wooo> will xubuntu be much faster on an SSD?
[22:11] <Bukowskii> any OS will be faster at loading things on a SSD but not neccissarily faster at running them, unless your systems bottle neck was its HD
[22:12] <wooo> makes sense thank you
[22:12] <wooo> and i feel as though my installer is hanging right now
[22:12] <wooo> it has not moved in 20 minutes
[22:14] <wooo> will reboot and try to install again
[22:43] <mongy> Does anyone have the same problem as me in xubuntu 11.10 with right clicking properties on more than 1 file/folder?  Properties is ghosted and not selectable
[22:45] <GridCube> mongy, i thing thats a feature more than a problem
[22:46] <mongy> eh?
[22:46] <mongy> I just wanna see how big x amount of files/folders are
[22:47] <madnick> just select them :)
[22:47] <madnick> thunar will tell you
[22:47] <mongy> madnick: it doesn't
[22:47] <madnick> What do you mean? It says the size in the status bar
[22:47] <mongy> madnick: '4.0k folder' means nothing to me when there is 15gb inside it
[22:49] <mongy> would pcmanfm have the this problem as well?  I have used it a little before, seemed ok
[22:49] <madnick> technically it is correct, but i understand your concern, and there is plenty of addons or and alternative file managers
[22:51] <mongy> I need an addon to see how big my selected files/folders are?  do you know what it's called?
[22:53] <madnick> I don't know, I can't really think of any file manager that doesnt use the actual file sizee
[22:53] <madnick> But there ought to be one :)
[22:54] <mongy> Just tried pcmanfm and it does what I need.
[23:00] <gry> How do I set xfce4-notifyd as the default instead of NotifyODS?
[23:01] <gry> OSD, even
[23:06] <ochosi> nlsthzn: hmyeah, that's not really easily fixable. there was/is a bugreport about that on launchpad, but you can't have rounded scrollbars and scrollbars touching the window-edge. so in the end i decided to go for rounded scrollbars...
[23:06] <ochosi> gry: uninstall notify-osd and install xfce4-notifyd?
[23:07] <nlsthzn> ochosi: k, thanks... I have gotten a work-around in a thread on the ubuntu forums I want to try out... cheers for the help :)
[23:07] <ochosi> nlsthzn: so what's the workaround?
[23:08] <nlsthzn> ochosi: not had a good look at it but it seems like modifying the theme - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859187
[23:10] <ochosi> nlsthzn: thanks, i'll have a look
[23:14] <ochosi> nlsthzn: yeah, well that workaround is exactly what i was talking about. you'll get broken scrollbars (in terms of looks)
[23:15] <nlsthzn> ochosi: :( k... thanks (saves me the hassle)
[23:15] <ochosi> nlsthzn: also: you'll still have a 1px line from the window-manager on the outer right, so grabbing the scrollbar still won't work
[23:15] <nlsthzn> I guess there will always be somrthing no matter the distro :)
[23:15] <ochosi> furthermore: apps like gedit are gtk3 in oneiric, so the workaround for them would (need to) be different
[23:15] <ochosi> it's not distro-related, in this case it's window-manager-related i guess
[23:16] <ochosi> at least as far as i can see now
[23:17] <nlsthzn> k, I guess you understand what I mean :p
[23:17] <ochosi> you can try installing the overlay-scrollbars, maybe they work better for you
[23:17] <ochosi> (but they won't work in ff obviously)
[23:19] <nlsthzn> :) not to worry... I will survive as is
[23:20] <ochosi> good to hear ;)
[23:23] <ochosi> nlsthzn: in fact you can also use a theme like MurrinaBlue, its scrollbars work for your usecase (but it doesn't have a gtk3 theme, so it won't work for gtk3 apps)
[23:25] <Bukowskii> is there any easy way to edit the app menu
[23:26] <nlsthzn> ochosi: thanks... for now I will keep it looking good and only slightly annoyng :p
[23:26] <ochosi> Bukowskii: you can install an editor like alacarte (be sure not to install all recommended packages), then you should be able to easily edit it
[23:27] <Bukowskii> now would i use synaptic pkg manager or software center?
[23:28] <Bukowskii> or does it matter
[23:30] <ochosi> it doesn't really matter. but one thing i'd personally advise you to do is uncheck in synaptic > preferences > "consider recommended packages as dependencies"
[23:30] <ochosi> otherwise you'll install a lot of gnome-stuff with alacarte that you won't really need
[23:30] <ochosi> anyway, g2g now, byw
[23:30] <Bukowskii> thanks, have a good one
[23:42] <garret> Hello, is there someone who can help me with the install of NVIDIA 310M drivers in xubuntu 11.10.  I have been working at this for a bit and followed all of the on-line help I can find with no success.
[23:54] <istok> i can't seem to get the sound working :/
[23:54] <istok> last time it was something to do with the alsa mixer, but i set it up how i thought it was and no luck.