/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/11/13/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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apacheloggerbulldog98_:  telepathy-kde : Depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts-plugins but it is not installable10:13
apachelogger                 Recommends: telepathy-gabble but it is not going to be installed10:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: Something unexpected happened to the core part of your Instant Messaging system and it couldn't be initialized. Try restarting the Contact List.10:16
apacheloggerthat is a message of epic uselessness :(10:16
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/KXXBW.png10:17
apacheloggerUX fail10:17
apacheloggerok, I am too stupid to use this software10:20
apacheloggercannot get it to do shit on daily builds -.-10:20
Mamarokis there an ETA for soprano 2.7.3? This would solve quite some bugs with Nepomuk and should be default with KDE 4.7.310:27
Mamarokcurrently there only is 2.7.0, which is not exactly up-to-date10:31
valoriewhoah, apachelogger -- when I see dialogs like that I feel stupid and close them 10:39
valorieI thought I was the only one10:39
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Quintasanapachelogger: Because dailies are broken13:15
Quintasanapachelogger: LP doesnt support git submodules and I can't do anything about it13:16
Quintasanshadeslayer, wendar, yofel: in Poland, the dock one is 2k polish zloty13:17
QuintasanLike 614 dollars13:18
Quintasanclaydoh: Can you mail me the copy of the expenses claim form? I seem to have deleted mine :/13:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: 2 things17:05
shadeslayer1) Daily builds are currently broken, please proceed to blame Quintasan for not fixing them17:05
shadeslayer2) That dialog should not pop up ... I think you're missing one of the modules, which one, I'm not quite sure17:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: I get : http://wstaw.org/m/2011/11/13/plasma-desktoprD1779.png17:07
skfinWhy on earth is plymounth so hardcoded to Kubuntu19:03
skfinIt's that hardcoded that you can't remove it's packages or remove it from the boot process19:04
skfinYou can hide it with noplymouth boot parameter but it actually runs on background anyway19:04
Quintasanshadeslayer: I call bullshit19:05
BarkingFishskfin: I don't even know what it does, but if it would be possible to remove, i'd do it :) Means I'd be using less space!19:05
QuintasanAsk LP to fix git submodules first19:05
skfinBarkingFish: Its the graphical splash screen during the boot19:05
skfinI want to see the traditional "Starting ntpd...              [OK]" without running plymouth in the background19:06
skfinI dont see any reason why a graphical splash screen should be hardcoded to run on boot19:06
BarkingFishi'd prefer a verbose boot too, still haven't figured out how to get one yet :)19:07
Quintasanhmm19:07
skfinBarkingFish: Add noplymounth and verbose to boot parameters19:07
skfinThat should do the trick19:07
BarkingFishexcellent.  19:07
* BarkingFish vanishes to edit his grub files19:08
skfinBut plymounth will run on the background, it just doesnt show :)19:08
skfinhttp://i.imgur.com/G0JZi.png19:08
yofelskfin: if you remove plymouth, mountall and thus fsck etc. can't talk to you anymore19:08
yofelit's what manages the use interaction with upstart19:08
yofelsure you can remove the *splash*19:09
skfinAaannddd that leads to another question: why is upstart so hardcoded to kubuntu?19:09
yofelbut not plymouth19:09
yofelbecause sys-v-init sucked at boot speed?19:09
skfinFor sure19:09
skfinBut when comparing Upstart and systemd, upstart sucks at boot speed19:09
yofeluhm, IIRC, when upstart was drafted, systemd didn't yet exist19:10
skfinUpstart has some awesome things, I like how it's event-based system is implemented, but still...19:10
yofelthey'll be discussing systemd for 12.10 I think, but I don't know more19:10
skfinOk, fine19:10
skfinsystemd as an option would be good also19:10
skfinIt loads services in a bit more clever way...19:11
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah, thats the dialog I got some time ago when I tried it on natty19:14
apacheloggerso19:14
yofelBarkingFish: verbose boot is --verbose added to the kernel command line. (Warning: that's *VERY* verbose)19:14
apacheloggerQuintasan: plz be fixing the ppa19:14
BarkingFishone more thing, right - since we're not supposed to edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg or whatever it is, i just went to look at /etc/grub/10_linux section to add the commands I want permanently into the config - how the hell do you code that? :)19:15
BarkingFish*/etc/grub.d/10_linux19:15
yofel /etc/default/grub isn't enough for what you need?19:16
BarkingFishyofel: I thought you weren't supposed to edit those files, i thought they were meant to be built from the sections when you do grub-mkconfig19:16
BarkingFishthat was what I understood from the web anywho19:17
yofel /boot/grub/grub.cfg: don't edit, /etc/default/grub: please edit19:17
yofel!grub2 > BarkingFish19:17
ubottuBarkingFish, please see my private message19:17
BarkingFishI know about grub2, i must have misunderstood the text of those links, i've seen that before :)19:18
BarkingFishright, back in a tick, just edited some default stuff, gonna check I've not borked my kit19:21
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BarkingFishguys - is there any way of checking when a package was last available please?  I'm looking for something called SKIM, the kde helper app for SCIM, but trying to install it's telling me it may be missing, obsoleted, or available only from another source.20:17
BarkingFishHave we ever had it in repo?20:17
JontheEchidnaBarkingFish: looks to be gone since natty: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skim/+changelog20:29
apacheloggerbroken stuff must be gone20:29
BarkingFishdang.20:29
BarkingFishI'm trying to get 11.10 to type in Hangul, I'm learning korean, and scim on its own is a sod.  20:30
yofelbug 72738620:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 727386 in Ubuntu "Please remove several kde3 packages (source and binary)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72738620:30
BarkingFishI cannot get this thing to type Hangul or Hanja regardless20:30
yofelis what caused it's removal20:30
BarkingFishso the fact that it relied on kde3libs means its gone, right?20:32
BarkingFish<sad panda20:32
BarkingFishI need to get this thing writing at the bare minimum in Hangul within the next sorta 24-48 hours20:33
zorael_BarkingFish: Tried UIM? I use it with Anthy, works great20:34
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BarkingFishzorael: at the moment, no i haven't. But if it works, i'll try it.20:35
BarkingFishwell that's a problem, uim-common refuses to install.20:37
BarkingFishdpkg: error: version 'uim-common' has bad syntax: version number does not start with a digit20:37
BarkingFishhm. seems to have installed, let's have a fiddle and see if this works :)20:42
BarkingFish안녕하세요. 나는 우리가 제대로 작동 될 것 같아요.20:44
BarkingFishFirst check, is that visible to everyone?20:44
yofelyes20:45
yofel(not that I can read it ^^)20:45
BarkingFishthat's a start at least :)  It just says good evening, I think it may be working correctly.20:46
BarkingFishI just wanted to lob something in to test it20:46
BarkingFishAt least, that's what I hope it says - I've been doing homestudy for a few weeks, and been accepted onto a course to learn the language properly, this is why I wanted my PC to be able to type in Korean.20:48
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