[00:00] <usr13> slong002: Yes, (if the PC has both wireless and wired adapters
[00:00] <ikonia> firmevato: lights blicking are not a problem - don't worry
[00:00] <_calum> I'm looking for a piece of software which will generate tcp / udp packets and send them to a target, does such software exist for Ubuntu?
[00:00] <ikonia> _calum: what are you actually trying to do
[00:01] <firmevato> ikonia, how about my porn keeps buffering due to the lack of bandwidth?
[00:01] <firmevato> HOW'MA POSETA JACK OFF?!
[00:01] <ikonia> firmevato: please keep the porn out of the channel
[00:01] <firmevato> ok
[00:01] <Grille> hi, how can i get courier-bold font on LTS ?
[00:01] <slong002> usr13 no wireless adapter on the pc. its just connect to a port on te wireless router.
[00:01] <firmevato> so after making a worthless comment, do you have any real help for me?
[00:02] <_calum> ikonia:I want to test a computer's response to tcp / udp traffic, firewall test etc
[00:02] <ikonia> firmevato: well, flashing lights just mean device in use, that is not a bad thing
[00:02] <firmevato> well, how about i tell you THEY DON'T NORMALLY FLASH THIS MUCH.
[00:02] <firmevato> something is taking up my bandwidth and running the harddrive so the computer is less responsive than normal
[00:02] <ikonia> firmevato: calm down, stop typing in caps, I'm having a normal converation and you seem to be keen to be disruptive
[00:02] <firmevato> the computer is slow, ok?
[00:02] <slong002> usr13: no wireless adapter on the pc. its just connect to a port on te wireless router.
[00:03] <ikonia> firmevato: ok, run "top" and see if any processes are "busy"
[00:03] <firmevato> thank you!
[00:03] <ikonia> _calum: tell telneting to an active/dead port will test TCP,
[00:03] <ikonia> _calum: using a dns server and doing fake transfers/lookups will test udp
[00:03] <ikonia> those are simple tests that take about an hour to setup
[00:03] <firmevato> that's all I needed. thanks.
[00:03] <ikonia> there are also non-specific tools such as "ping" for tcp
[00:04] <firmevato> for some reason "java" is the most active process.
[00:04] <ikonia> and there used to be a tool called "udpdump"
[00:04] <_calum> ikonia:Does ubuntu have packet generation software?
[00:04] <dcherniv> _calum, apache's "ab" might be what you're looking for]
[00:04] <ikonia> _calum: there are many tools for, it depends on what you what to generate, eg: "ping" will generate packages, but are they what you want ?
[00:05] <_calum> I want to test my windows firewall program
[00:05] <firmevato> ok I did "kill -9 (java pid)" and it automatically restarted and is running the cpu at 97% now?
[00:05] <ikonia> _calum: you said earlier nmap has those capabilities
[00:05] <ikonia> firmevato: just reboot
[00:06] <firmevato> ok, brb.
[00:06] <InvaderZim> Using unity, how can I move the top bar/panel to the bottom?
[00:06] <_calum> yeah but not necessarily to test open/closed ports but to check that it blocks attempts
[00:07] <ikonia> _calum: what ?
[00:07] <ikonia> _calum: testing open/closed ports IS it blocking attempts
[00:07] <ikonia> _calum: eg: if you test an closed port and it reports it as "open" it's not working
[00:07] <ikonia> _calum: if you test a closed port and it reports closed, it's worked
[00:07] <_calum> how reliable is nmap though
[00:08] <ikonia> _calum: very
[00:08] <AnttiM> Hi, I'm trying to boot Ubuntu Live from USB stick, but it just gets into an endless loop of reboots
[00:09] <_calum> What kind of traffic would be seen if a port scan was taking place on windows? Multiple connections to many tcp ports?
[00:09] <AnttiM> can anyone help me in this matter?
[00:10] <ikonia> _calum: it basically just throws a few packets at a port trying to make a connection, and the response from the remote device determains it's status
[00:10] <ikonia> _calum: depends how you configure it - nmap will do what you tell it to do
[00:11] <utente1> русские есть?
[00:11] <_calum> so ACK = open port, RST closed port, no response = dropped packet?
[00:11] <ikonia> _calum: check the documentation for status
[00:12] <firmevato> ikonia, I rebooted the computer and java started automatically again, and it's maxing out the CPU. When I kill -9 it, it restarts automatically with a new PID.
[00:12] <czx> how to copy a file witout replace?
[00:12] <_calum> thanks ikonia, I will look through nmap docs
[00:12] <ikonia> firmevato: so before you did anything, no browsers open or anything like that, java just started
[00:12] <pfifo> firmevato, do you use freenet?
[00:13] <firmevato> that is correct. actually yes I just did install freenet recently. I think you've got it.
[00:13] <firmevato> thank you.
[00:13] <tonyyarusso> czx: what do you mean?
[00:13] <pfifo> ikonia, freenet adds an entry to cron
[00:13] <ikonia> pfifo: that sounds bad
[00:13] <czx> to copy a file not replacing destination
[00:13] <firmevato> I just shut down freenet and the java PID is no longer running
[00:14] <ikonia> czx: you're not copying the file then
[00:14] <firmevato> you fixed it, bro. way to go.
[00:14] <ikonia> czx: if you copy a file and there is already a file there, if you don't replace - you're not copying it, you're "not" copying it
[00:14] <czx> i do if no destination exists
[00:14] <ikonia> czx: then you're not replacing anything as no file exists to replace
[00:14] <jack0612> is powertop the best way to determine battery consumption on a laptop?
[00:14] <tonyyarusso> czx: I'm attempting to read your mind here since you're not actually saying it, but are you trying to copy a BUNCH of files but skip any that already exist in the destination location?
[00:15] <czx> yes
[00:15] <ikonia> tonyyarusso: bravo
[00:15] <Javid_> where can I get help with Totem?
[00:15] <tonyyarusso> czx: Okay, try looking into either the -i or -n options to cp, or possibly using rsync instead.
[00:17] <pfifo> firmevato, you need to remove the entry from /etc/crontab if you need help ask someone else im watching star trek
[00:18] <czx> and I need copied file to blend permissions and owner and acl too
[00:18] <firmevato> I'm just gonna get rid of freenet. it's not that interesting.
[00:19] <czx> and I need copied file to blend permissions and owner and acl too, will cp copy them instead?
[00:20] <Javid_> where can I get help with Totem?
[00:20] <itsonlyme> Is it possible to view linux partitions in windows?
[00:20] <czx> Javid_, gnome user mailing list
[00:21] <jack0612> is powertop the best way to monitor batery usage on a laptop?
[00:23] <logi_> hi, is it possible to change the font in gnome-shell for the activity view / top panel?
[00:26] <itsonlyme> Can I recover a ubuntu ext4 partition after its been deleted?
[00:27] <trism> logi_: yes, change the font-family at the beginning of /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css (if you install the user-theme extension, you can copy that whole directory to ~/.themes/SomeThemeName/gnome-shell/, edit it there and switch themes with gnome-tweak-tool so you don't have to edit the main theme)
[00:28] <pfifo> itsonlyme, just recreate the partition as it was
[00:29] <itsonlyme> pfifo: I had some important documents on it.
[00:29] <czx> I need copied file to blend permissions and owner and acl, will cp copy them instead?
[00:29] <pfifo> itsonlyme, deleting the partition dosent affect the filesystem, you just need to use fdisk to recreate the partition
[00:30] <itsonlyme> I tried recreating the partition, but there's nothing there.
[00:30] <pfifo> itsonlyme, did you reformat?
[00:30] <itsonlyme> Its created an empty partition, maybe formatted automatically.
[00:31] <pfifo> itsonlyme, how did you create the partition
[00:31] <itsonlyme> Using the ubuntu install wizard.
[00:32] <pfifo> itsonlyme, your data is gone
[00:32] <kandinski> what's the deal with gwibber in 11.10?
[00:32] <itsonlyme> OK
[00:32] <kandinski> it seems to have lost a lot of features
[00:32] <silner> kandinski, I've read it's being rewritten, in Vala I was told
[00:32] <kandinski> ah
[00:33] <kandinski> it's pretty unusable
[00:33] <logi_> thanks trism
[00:33] <Javid_> how do I rid this thing so I can stream Airplay to it?
[00:33] <silner> kandinski, it was supposed to make it faster but I'm not convinced myself - I still prefer Choqok
[00:33] <kandinski> no man page for gwibber either
[00:34] <kandinski> silner, does Choqok inteface with the unified messaging gnome applet?
[00:34]  * kandinski installs and tries Choqok
[00:34] <CharminTheMoose> How much of a security risk is it to let normal users have access to the shutdown/reboot binary in a single user system?
[00:34] <silner> kandinski, Kind of. It works better with Xubuntu and Kubuntu though
[00:35] <kandinski> silner, exponential explosion!
[00:35] <kandinski> all the combinations of everything with everything...
[00:35] <pfifo> linux isnt a single user system
[00:35] <somnium> Hello, anyone that can tell me if I can get the LVM partition to mount without destroying my data that is on it? I can see it in all the scans but mounting it tells me that "EXT4-fs (dm-0): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem" anyone that thinks they can help?
[00:36] <silner> kandinski, in my experience quite a few programs have issues with the new notification area (Turpial and Pino barely work at all with it)
[00:36] <kandinski> silner, thanks
[00:37] <kandinski> wow wow
[00:37] <kandinski> choqok installs quite a bit of kde
[00:37] <kandinski> this is my fault fo hitting ok without reading the package list :)
[00:37] <Javid_> how do I rig this thing so I can stream Airplay to it?
[00:38] <theborger> anyone know how to get rid of the /etc/motd msg when you log in via SSH?
[00:38] <silner> kandinski, Yeah I should have warned you about that. It's not as bad as some but it is heavy on the libs
[00:38] <theborger> i tried deleating the txt, but it just comes back
[00:39] <kandinski> silner, not your fault at all
[00:40] <Nichola> Hi, can you guys see me?
[00:40] <kandinski> theborger: http://serverfault.com/questions/36421/stop-ssh-login-from-printing-motd-from-the-client/38160#38160
[00:40] <edbian> Nichola, yes
[00:40] <edbian> Mr. Tesla
[00:41] <theborger> i got it, just deleated the motd
[00:42] <Nichola> thanks
[00:43] <Nichola> I hope I am in the right place and I hope you guys can help me. =)
[00:43] <Javid_> I hope you're used to disappointment :c
[00:44] <Nichola> I am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop and am having a hard time
[00:44] <Nichola> lol, yes, this has been one of those projects...
[00:45] <mikeliss> Anybody know how to fix unity when it stops working? Suddenly my borders and normal unity stuff is missing (topbar, alt-tab, etc). This is in Onieric.
[00:45] <Javid_> how do I rig this thing so I can stream Airplay to it? 11.10
[00:46] <Javid_> Nichola: can you be clearer than 'hard time'
[00:49] <freezway> hey all, how can I tell which sensors "sensors" outpiuts is which? it just says temp1 temp2 and temp3
[00:49] <Nichola> yes, I am booting from a usb and sometimes I get to the purple screen with the ubuntu graphic, sometimes I don't. When I do get to the purple screen, it never goes past the place where the dots are loading.
[00:50] <Nichola> Sometimes it has gone to the place that the dots all turn orange and then start to turn back to white, but never has gotten past the last two dots turning back to white...
[00:51] <Nichola> (don't know if any of that is helpful/useful but that is what I get to....)
[00:51] <pfifo> Nichola, pres F2 to turn off the splash and tell us what it says its doing
[00:56] <osmodivs_> Hello, what is the name of the package I need to install in order to have a search box in Synaptic? all I have is this search icon, I have to press it and then imput a name and then search, wich is kind of annoying. I nstalled 9menu, but still dont have that box
[00:58] <Javid_> does anyone here know much about installng totem plugins?
[01:00] <zabomber> Javid_: what plugin?
[01:01] <Javid_> zabomber: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/airplay-video-playback-comes-to-totem/
[01:02] <CharminTheMoose> How much of a security risk is it to let normal users have access to the shutdown/reboot binary in a single user system?
[01:02] <parcs> in general, how seamless is the upgrade process between releases?
[01:03] <Nichola> eek! I tried one more time, and it got past the dots. I am now looking at a welcome screen, but can't move the mouse...
[01:03] <Nichola> how do I select my options
[01:07] <Javid_> Good lord, this should not be this difficult.
[01:09] <Nichola> i tried tab and enter...
[01:11] <Javid_> They're all asleep, I guess.
[01:13] <Nichola> should I still hit the F2 key?
[01:14] <zykotick9> parcs, not one of ubuntu's strong points really
[01:15] <Nichola> I am a total newbie to ubuntu....
[01:15] <puff> What's going on?
[01:15] <pnorman> I found the upgrade seamless with ubuntu-server at home. When I tried upgrading my door to 11.something, it didn't work so well
[01:15] <puff> "door"?
[01:15] <tkruise> door?
[01:15] <pnorman> My door at work runs ubuntu
[01:15] <usr13> Gateway?
[01:15] <puff> pnorman: The door at your office?
[01:16] <pnorman> puff: lab door
[01:16] <puff> Oooookay.
[01:16] <Javid_> My door needs help installing a totem plugin, if that's what it takes to get attention in here.
[01:16] <pnorman> Instead of a window in the top of it, it has an LCD panel
[01:16] <usr13> what's a lab door?
[01:16] <puff> Anyway, I'm a somewhat experienced ubuntu user, but I have to go meet somebody for dinner, so I only have a few minutes if folks have specific questions.
[01:17] <pnorman> usr13: a method of access control into a room.
[01:17] <usr13> i c
[01:17] <puff> So your lab has a smart door?
[01:17] <Javid_> usr13: in english we use entire words, try it
[01:17] <pnorman> It wasn't too smart - not interactive, just displayed a slideshow.
[01:18] <pnorman> Well, there was the RFID based lock, but that didn't run ubuntu, and it wasn't very smart either
[01:19] <usr13>  pnorman:  So what is your Ubuntu related question?
[01:21] <pnorman> I didn't have one. I was commenting on the upgrade process since someone asked about it.
[01:21] <usr13> i c
[01:22] <Guest92882> hi
[01:23] <yoaino3v> Anybody know anything about wine?
[01:23] <Guest92882> hi
[01:23] <Guest92882> guys
[01:23] <Guest92882> how is everyone doing today
[01:23] <yoaino3v> Wine keeps blocking mIRC from installing
[01:23] <usr13> yoaino3v: It is quite possible.
[01:24] <usr13> yoaino3v: Why don't you use a native client?
[01:24] <Guest92882> how do i change my name in this
[01:24] <qin> yoaino3v: mIRC?
[01:24] <yoaino3v> mIRC
[01:24] <yoaino3v> windows software
[01:24] <yoaino3v> I use it to run bots
[01:24] <glr> Is this the ubuntu channel.
[01:24] <Guest92882> HOW DO I CHANGE MY NAME IN THIS
[01:24] <usr13> glr: I wonder sometimes.
[01:24] <qin> yoaino3v: Try #winehq and their site.
[01:24] <iostream_2003> good   day
[01:25] <usr13>  Guest92882 Try /nick new-name
[01:25] <silverrocker> I'm ssh'ed in a remove machine and I want to startx on the machine, how do I do this?
[01:25] <laserdude> Hey, I have a problem with my friend's bootup
[01:25] <usr13> laserdude: and......?
[01:25] <yoaino3v> you know the irc.***-network.com < server name?
[01:25] <laserdude> well i need some help.
[01:25] <Anon741> yes
[01:25] <Anon741> workerd
[01:25] <glr> Usr13: I am in on an iPad and did not know if I set it correct.
[01:25] <Javid_> I need some help with totem.
[01:25] <s0nee> silverrocker: ssh has "-x" option. read the manpage
[01:25] <usr13> glr: You are in #ubuntu
[01:26] <silverrocker> s0nee: I don't need the gui aps on my machine, I just need to startx on that machine
[01:26] <iostream_2003> some one can help me
[01:26] <glr> Usr13: thank you
[01:26] <yoaino3v> Alright I'm there
[01:26] <laserdude> So we are using ocelot and whenever we are trying to boot, it stops when it reaches the bootsplash
[01:26] <s0nee> silverrocker: hmm then try "export DISPLAY=??"
[01:26] <Javid_> Hello?
[01:26] <usr13> Javid_: What is your question?
[01:26] <iostream_2003> hi
[01:27] <glr> Has any one had luck installing the nvidia drivers on their laptop?
[01:27] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | laserdude
[01:27] <chelz> i'm working off of a copy of a drive, is there a way to make Testdisk destructively operate on it, as in write, etc?
[01:27] <usr13> glr: We are quite sure they have, yes.
[01:27] <laserdude> Thank you, bot, but I am pretty sure it's not that.
[01:27] <usr13> Javid_: What is your problem?
[01:28] <laserdude> Since we can use the screen in the live CD
[01:28] <Javid_> usr13: Same one I've been asking - I'm trying to install a totem plugin but iit won't show up in the plugins list
[01:28] <silverrocker> s0nee: I tryied export DISPLAY=0 but didn't help
[01:28] <usr13> Javid_: Which plugin?
[01:28] <usr13> silverrocker: Try  export DISPLAY=:0
[01:29] <s0nee> silverrocker: i dont get it. you want to startx, but not on your local machine ?
[01:29] <Javid_> usr13: totem-plugin-airplay
[01:29] <usr13> or export DISPLAY=:0.0
[01:29] <zykotick9> silverrocker, do you have gdm on that box?  "sudo service gdm start" or lightdm if you're using 11.10.  I doubt you can startx with an export (but could be wrong).
[01:29] <silverrocker> s0nee: what I'm trying to accomplish is to start x on the machine I'm logged in without really binding myself to that x instance
[01:30] <silverrocker> zykotick9: nope, dont have any login managers
[01:30] <KillaByte> does anyone know how to view the manpages via terminal
[01:30] <s0nee> silverrocker: then im pretty sure you can set the display with "export DISPLAY=:xx" but you have to figure out the xx yourself
[01:30] <laserdude> KillaByte: man
[01:30] <zykotick9> KillaByte, "man programyouwant"
[01:30] <silverrocker> s0nee: I don't have any displays running I think
[01:31] <KillaByte> kool thanks
[01:31] <djexq> #kubuntu
[01:31] <Javid_> usr13: I'm trying to get it set up so I can stream music via Airplay to this thing. I don't much care how, and all the google results point back to that plugin.
[01:31] <zabomber> Javid_: i am having the exact same problem as we speak..
[01:32] <Srbuntu> hi guys
[01:32] <Javid_> zabomber: haha. not just me then
[01:32] <Srbuntu> please help me about some sort of bug
[01:32] <newbie|2> hi
[01:32] <laserdude> Hey so can anyone help us boot?
[01:32] <djexq> I'm having issues with being able to access other partitions of my disk, but I supposedly have administrator privileges.
[01:32] <zabomber> javid_: 11.10?
[01:32] <djexq> can anyone help?
[01:32] <Javid_> zabomber: yes
[01:32] <dcherniv> silverrocker, you logged in with ssh?
[01:32] <Srbuntu> when i transfer from my mobile phone files
[01:33] <zabomber> Javid_: mmm... give me 5
[01:33] <Javid_> zabomber: ok :]
[01:33] <silverrocker> dcherniv: yees
[01:33] <Srbuntu> my pc freez
[01:33] <s0nee> silverrocker: no display running ?
[01:33] <newbie|2> lol
[01:33] <silverrocker> s0nee: don't think so
[01:33] <dcherniv> silverrocker, you want to start X on the remote machine?
[01:33] <silverrocker> dcherniv: yes
[01:33] <dcherniv> silverrocker, DISPLAY=:0 startx
[01:34] <procrastubator> So I'm trying to boot Ubuntu
[01:34] <usr13> Javid_: ls /usr/share/totem/
[01:34] <silverrocker> Fatal server error: no screens found
[01:34] <procrastubator> everytime I try to boot Ubuntu from a usb to install it, it never recognizes wireless connections
[01:34] <dcherniv> silverrocker, is X server setup properly on the remote machine?
[01:34] <dcherniv> silverrocker, ie can you run it locally?
[01:34] <usr13> Javid_: ls /usr/lib/totem/plugins/
[01:34] <Javid_> usr13: what am I looking for? or just paste the result?
[01:35] <dcherniv> silverrocker, is there an actual monitor connected?
[01:35] <djexq> can anyone help with a priviledge issue?
[01:35] <usr13> djexq: Yes
[01:35] <silverrocker> dcherniv: well I can't test that but I remember having a monitor plugged into it
[01:35] <djexq> wonderful! thank you :)
[01:35] <Javid_> usr13: I see. Looks like the guide I had gave me the wrong plugin folder.. let's see here
[01:35] <s0nee> silverrocker: you may want to check the xorg configuration file ?
[01:35] <usr13> Javid_: Yes, should be: /usr/lib/totem/plugins/
[01:36] <dcherniv> silverrocker, i had that when machine was running headless and X nowadays detects a monitor. solved by manually specifying screen in xorg.conf
[01:36] <dcherniv> silverrocker, not sure if xorg.conf even works still with latest ubuntu
[01:36] <iostream_2003> hey people
[01:36] <djexq> okay, so i installed 11.10 under windows & am now booted into it. i try to go to the root folder of my drive, but it says that i don't have permission
[01:36] <silverrocker> dcherniv: I think this machine has 10.04
[01:37] <usr13> djexq: sudo
[01:37] <knish809> Has the touchpad double tap and hold problem been solved yet?
[01:37] <dcherniv> silverrocker, check to see if there's an xorg.conf somewhere, not sure where ubuntu puts it now, used to be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:37] <usr13> djexq: What do you need that is in the root folder of your drive?
[01:37] <procrastubator> Guys what do I need to know about figuring out how to get Ubuntu to see wireless connections?
[01:38] <usr13> dcherniv: Still in /etc/X11/
[01:38]  * yoaino3v This Winehq IRC room is full of **sholes 
[01:38] <djexq> i don't even know if i really need to go to the root folder, but i'd like to be able to get to the windows partition to access my music
[01:38] <usr13> procrastubator: iwconfig
[01:38] <bekks> djexq: then just mount it
[01:38] <usr13> djexq: man fstab
[01:38] <usr13> read....
[01:38] <knish809> i did some xorg.conf mods and got a little action, but it's still not right.
[01:39] <Javid_> usr13: putting the plugin files there doesn't seem to have worked either
[01:39] <procrastubator> usr13: and then what?
[01:39] <Rya_n> Mildly annoying problem... Side by side, the text of my desktop icons overlap.
[01:39] <zabomber> usr13: same result as Javid_
[01:39] <djexq> thank you, reading now. i'll let you know what happens
[01:39] <silverrocker> dcherniv, actually I'm just trying to run a script which does some work for me but fails with FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver. from mencoder or mplayer and I'm guessing I would need x to solve that?
[01:40] <usr13> procrastubator: what does iwconfig say about your wifi device?
[01:40] <procrastubator> usr13: I'll login from Ubuntu and come back here through another computer in a minute, it'll be much more convenient than booting back and forth. Be back in two
[01:40] <Rya_n> Is there a way to narrow desktop icons text, or get rid of it altogether?
[01:40] <dcherniv> silverrocker, a video conversion script?
[01:40] <silverrocker> dcherniv: yes
[01:41] <dcherniv> silverrocker, can you pastebin it?
[01:41] <silverrocker> dcherniv: the script?
[01:41] <dcherniv> silverrocker, you shouldnt need X for that
[01:41] <dcherniv> silverrocker, yea
[01:41] <KillaByte> i am trying to become more familiar with the terminal  does anyone havelinks for a noob?
[01:41] <silverrocker> yes, that wouldn't be logical
[01:42] <usr13> Javid_: How did you install the totem plugin?
[01:42] <usr13> Javid_: Did you use the package manager?
[01:42] <Javid_> usr13: via the directions here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/airplay-video-playback-comes-to-totem/
[01:43] <Darkenvy> I have a website and I want to symlink a log folder that is located inside of "~/root". How can I do this? I want a directory like "xxxxx.com/logs/"
[01:44] <Darkenvy> If I symlink it denies me permission to view the folder on "xxxx.com/logs/". My website does handle directory listing btw. "xxxx.com/images/" lists
[01:44] <djexq> usr13: is there any particular reason that under system settings, users & groups is not displayed. it is only users
[01:45] <usr13> Javid_: Did you move the files into /usr/lib/totem/plugins/  ?
[01:45] <Javid_> usr13: I did indeed
[01:49] <usr13> Javid_: I don't know for sure.
[01:50] <usr13> Javid_: Try sudo apt-get install totem-plugins-extra totem-plugins
[01:50] <djexq> does anyone know why groups wouldn't be available under system settings?
[01:50] <usr13> djexq: What are you trying to do?
[01:51] <usr13> djexq: Did  you read the manfile for fstab?
[01:51] <bekks> man 5 fstab
[01:52] <Javid_> usr13: ok, trying
[01:52] <djexq> usr13: yes, but to be honest, i really didn't understand exactly how to mount my ntfs partition
[01:53] <zabomber> djexq: what are you trying to do? have you install ntfs-3g?
[01:53] <usr13> djexq: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit
[01:53] <Javid_> usr13: nope
[01:54] <usr13> Javid_: something may need to be restarted.  You might try a reboot.
[01:55] <Javid_> worth a shot
[01:55] <Javid_> brb
[01:58] <l0bster> who the hell decided on unity?
[01:59] <Javid_> back. checking it now
[02:00] <Javid_> usr13: reboot didn't help either :<
[02:00] <zabomber> fol
[02:05] <wookienz> guys, i am trying to install an upstart script, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/736851/ but i getting "start: Unknwon job: davmail" any ideas?
[02:06] <TheBuntu> in virtualbox... win7 in VM... i have an ntfs partition.. How do i access that partition in VM ?
[02:06] <L1nuxRules> share it with the vm
[02:08] <L1nuxRules> anywy this is ubuntu so windows &> /duv/null
[02:09] <L1nuxRules> dev*
[02:10] <bnild> Will installing gnome shell on Ubuntu 11.10 break Unity in any way?
[02:11] <L1nuxRules> it shouldnt unless theres depency issues
[02:11] <TheBuntu> L1nuxRules: how do i share with the vm... i dont see VM in share
[02:12] <wanghelong> somebody here
[02:12] <L1nuxRules> buntu if its virtuasl box click on setttings > shared folders
[02:12] <wanghelong> saying
[02:13] <zabomber> anyone know what the extension for a totem plugin is in 10.10 or 11.04?
[02:13] <TheBuntu> ok
[02:13] <L1nuxRules> bnild if theres no dep issues then you should be able to install gnome stop unity then start gnome
[02:14] <L1nuxRules> then modify init3
[02:15] <L1nuxRules> ^^ might not be the Ubuntu way*
[02:19] <L1nuxRules> L1nuxRules | UbuntuRules | split | sort
[02:20] <arooni-mobile> i am connected to a wireless network on my ubuntu 11.10 laptop.  i want to allow my android phone to "share" the ubuntu connection and connect wirelessly and access the internet.  how might i do that?
[02:21] <L1nuxRules> through your router
[02:21] <arooni-mobile> i dont have access to the router
[02:21] <L1nuxRules> not your os
[02:21] <arooni-mobile> i';m connected to an ap point
[02:21] <arooni-mobile> that i dont control
[02:21] <Tony> I want to add a repository to keep up with nginx and php 5 updates. I want to only get those two packages from that repository. How do I do that in my sources.list file?
[02:21] <Tony> thank you for any help
[02:22] <L1nuxRules> not sure then , sorry
[02:23] <atvdude01> hello
[02:23] <Tony> the repository has Mysql 5.5 and other packages that I don't want
[02:23] <hammoommah> can i uninstall screen saver deamon? cant seem to get it to turn off completetly
[02:24] <bonhoffer> how can i find out what is using port 3000?
[02:24] <jetblackdog> howdy, i just tried to 'sudo su -" on the ubuntu liveCD/ install CD and it kicked me to a login screen - what's the live CD password so i can get back in to install lol
[02:24] <L1nuxRules> tony you can only restrict repos easily youd need to grep , xargs and probably sed stuff to do what you want unless theres a gui tool
[02:24] <bonhoffer> lsof right?
[02:25] <L1nuxRules> bonhoffer netstat -ln | grep 3000
[02:25] <Tony> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and Debian 6 on my 2 VPS servers, so no GUI tools
[02:25] <qin> jetblackdog: Just enter?
  I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and Debian 6 on my 2 VPS servers, so no GUI tools
[02:25] <jetblackdog> qin: thx, that was it lol
[02:26] <Tony> the repository is "deb http://packages.dotdeb.org stable all"
[02:26] <Tony> I only want the NGINX packages from that repository. how do I do that?
[02:26] <bonhoffer> L1nuxRules, thanks!
[02:26] <bonhoffer> works
[02:26] <bonhoffer> lsof -i :3000 worked too
[02:26] <hammoommah> apparently i have 2 screenasaver deamons running.... lubuntu default and gnome deamon
[02:27] <L1nuxRules> like I said it would need scripting to do waht you want i.e restrict it to packages, you can only restrict by repo at PM level unless things have changed in new distros Im old skool
[02:28] <L1nuxRules> bonhoffere that only works if theres an open session what I said works if its only listening
[02:29] <MaynardWaters> Hello, I am having trouble getting two lvms that were pulled from a fedora 12 or 13 computer to recognize in Ubuntu, please offer advice, one is the OS drive, there other lvm is a raid 5 array
[02:30] <L1nuxRules> maynardwaters explain what your attempting and the method please?
[02:32] <L1nuxRules> unable to mount /md1 :)
[02:35] <procrastubaotr> I currently double boot 10.10 and Windows, and initially, I set ubuntu to have only a third of the hard drive space, is there any way to increase the partition size of Buntu without messing things up?
[02:35] <arooni-mobile>  i'm connected to a wireless network with my 11.10 ubuntu laptop.  is there a way to allow my internet connection to be shared to my android phone?
[02:36] <puff> Sound stopped working.  Thinkpad t520 running ubuntu 11.10.
[02:36] <MaynardWaters> LinuxRants: I have a Desktop which has been running Fedora 12, I ran out of harddrive connections and I got a new solidstate drive, So I pulled out the fedora OS drive and placed the solid state in its place and installed ubuntu on it.
[02:36] <puff> With xubuntu-desktop.
[02:36] <yoaino3v> Just thought I'd tell 'ya I got wine working without help.
[02:36] <puff> I fiddled with all of the controls and I rebooted.
[02:36] <procrastubaotr> arooni-mobile: Have you tried making an ad hoc connection?
[02:36] <altice> arooni-mobile, I don't believe you can have the connected wireless connection for your laptop and then share that wireless to your android phone?
[02:36] <altice> like. not at the same time
[02:37] <altice> but question
[02:37] <arooni-mobile> procrastubaotr, no i have not
[02:37] <L1nuxRules> maytwat as you adressed me that way &> /dev/null
[02:37] <procrastubaotr> arooni-mobile: try this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-an-adhoc-host-with-ubuntu.html#more-978
[02:38] <altice> arooni-mobile, why would you want to share that wireless connection with the android phone? Why wouldn't you simply connect to the wireless router with the android phone?
[02:38] <L1nuxRules> dont advise haxors :)
[02:38] <procrastubaotr> Sorry thought it was a valid question
[02:40] <wbBlueDave> cy
[02:40] <L1nuxRules> you asked why , just think why they ask ;)
[02:41] <L1nuxRules> he doesent have admin to the router
[02:41] <OttScorp> Hey all.. Just a question.. I know I could use the forums. :-)  How come when I get update notices and do the updates.. why doesn't it ask for my password.. and yet when I go to Synaptic to add or remove a program.. it asks me for my password..
[02:41] <OttScorp> I'm using Lubuntu 11.10.
[02:41] <altice> L1nuxRules: but then how does his laptop have connection? He must have the PW to connect right?
[02:42] <L1nuxRules> ottscorp your shell has root or has alreay authenticated to sudo when you ran the update
[02:42] <OttScorp> thanks L1nuxRules
[02:43] <L1nuxRules> altice no he has network access , not everyone you let access networks is trusted!
[02:43] <Rya_n> Mildly annoying problem: Side by side, the text of my desktop icons overlap.
[02:43] <altice> I guess I still don't get it, meh?
[02:43] <pfifo> altice, dont let others advise you how to help people you want to help
[02:44] <L1nuxRules> np ottscorp
[02:44] <altice> yep, with ya pfifo
[02:44] <Rya_n> How can I make the icon text narrower, or get rid of it altogether?
[02:44] <L1nuxRules> pfifo also dont advise people to advise people stuff above them
[02:45] <puff> Can somebody help me with my disappearing sound?
[02:45] <L1nuxRules> not aimed at altice but pfifo
[02:45] <altice> L1nuxRules: also don't advise people to not advice people that say not to advise other people ;)
[02:45] <altice> this is becoming recursive......
[02:45] <altice> I like it
[02:45] <apwbdjp> !sound | puff
[02:45] <pfifo> !recursion
[02:46] <L1nuxRules> I advise not to advise things that break things without the user who does being able to know enough to fix it!
[02:47] <altice> hehe, this is becoming a silly conversation
[02:47] <altice> I feel as if this is a Mad Hatter tea party
[02:47] <L1nuxRules> or advising people how to gain security rights :)
[02:49] <OttScorp> Another questions.. sorry.. I find printing from Lubuntu 11.10 to my usb connected HP Laserjet 1200 to be slow compared to Windows.. for a typical document it takes about 10 minutes compared to less than one minute under Windows.. is that normal for Linux?
[02:49] <L1nuxRules> Why is Linux more secure than windows > altice | < L1nuxRules
[02:49] <L1nuxRules>  windows > altice | < L1nuxRules invalid syntax I knw
[02:50] <puff> apwbdjp: Thanks, already tried the volume control and settings, I'll check out those pages.
[02:50] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, who cares about people's intention? You're volunteering to help people with using an OS whose entire idea is based on free information.
[02:50] <OttScorp> Speaking of Security.. Is Apparmour on by default in Ubuntu/Lubuntu 11.10?
[02:50] <bonhoffer> what is the shortcut key for killing an app?
[02:50] <bonhoffer> (alt+f4 for ubunut (11.10))?
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[02:51] <OttScorp> lol bonhoffer :-)  I think he probably mean that a app has hung or has stopped responding :-)
[02:51] <OttScorp> not sure about a shortcut key
[02:51] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, everyone can know anything. If we start restricting information, let's be Windows, and hide our source codes so that people don't know our security breaches.
[02:51] <OttScorp> look up the xkill command
[02:52] <bonhoffer> i would like it to be graceful -- not an app that has hung -- an app that is in my way
 your on my level :)
[02:52] <OttScorp> minimize the app then?
[02:52] <L1nuxRules> bonhoffer killing it in gui or cli?
[02:53] <bonhoffer> gui
[02:53] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, this'll be my last off-topic comment. I like you L1nuxRules, I've been watching you help people for while now, and you're good really. No need to answer me.
[02:53] <bonhoffer> in cli i do kill -9 pid
[02:53] <Yerushalmi> Every so often, usually when something tries to play a sound, the sound icon disappears from my upper bar, then reappears at full volume. Even if sound was previously muted. If I'm trying to watch something with no sound or just not have popup windows make "bonk" noises when I'm in class this is extremely inconvenient and irritating. Can someone help me figure out why this is happening and...
[02:53] <Yerushalmi> ...stop it?
[02:53] <L1nuxRules> best way I know is open a shell type xkill then point the x on the window you want to kill and left click
[02:54] <bonhoffer> hmm. . . i am sure there is an equivalent to "send the menu -- quit" signal
[02:54] <bonhoffer> well, sure is not a sure thing
[02:54] <OttScorp> but bonhoffer said that the app isn't "hung".. jsut in the way.. so minimize it??
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[02:55] <OttScorp> but xkill is good to know.. agreed with L1nuxRules
[02:55] <bonhoffer> yeah -- but i want it quit
[02:55] <bonhoffer> i can just do file quit
[02:55] <OttScorp> there ya go then.. file --> quite :-)
[02:55] <OttScorp> lol
[02:55] <bonhoffer> no biggie -- just surprising that windows 3.1 had this, but ubuntu doesn't
[02:56] <OttScorp> what doesn't Ubuntu have that Windows 3.1 has?
[02:56] <bonhoffer> i guess ms$ft has spent billions for something!
[02:56] <bonhoffer> alt+f4
[02:56] <bonhoffer> app is gracefully killed
[02:56] <OttScorp> alt-f4 works in Ubuntu
[02:56] <L1nuxRules> alt+f4 works in gnome
[02:56] <bonhoffer> oh, then standby
[02:57] <ArNezT> any one can help me please: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) on install nagios3
[02:57] <OttScorp> standby works
[02:57] <L1nuxRules> ^^ or what you said
[02:57] <OttScorp> but are you using Gnome 3?
[02:57] <bonhoffer> works -- works great -- thanks!
[02:57] <bonhoffer> sorry i wasn't clear
[02:57] <L1nuxRules> arnetzt whats ps aux | grep dpkg show?
 (alt+f4 for ubunut (11.10))?
[02:58] <OttScorp> Not sure about Ubuntu since I use Lubuntu :-)
[02:58] <bonhoffer> (i could have tried alt+f4 but that would have been too easy)
[02:58] <OttScorp> I believe you'll have to go to the logout button or something
[02:58] <OttScorp> Can't help ya since I don't use Gnome 3
[02:58] <ArNezT> ps aux | grep dpkg show grep: show: No such file or directory
[02:59] <OttScorp> I prefer the LXDE desktop since it uses a lot less resources
[02:59] <apwbdjp> ArNezT, the show was in the question, the command is: ps aux | grep dpkg
[02:59] <ArNezT> ow ic :)
[03:00] <ArNezT> ps aux | grep dpkg : arnezt    6426  0.0  0.0   4164   868 pts/0    S+   09:59   0:00 grep -ia dpkg
[03:00] <L1nuxRules> arnezt I take its not in your path, try the full paths cant remeber of top of my head but will be in either /bin /sbin /usr/localbin or /usr/local/sbin
[03:00] <azriel> Does anyone know how to download all the gstreamer modules?
[03:00] <L1nuxRules> /usr/local/bin*
[03:01] <L1nuxRules> ^^ I just seen what you replied so no dpkg instances are running try running your command again but with sudo
[03:02] <apwbdjp> ArNezT, by your command, he means the apt-get you used to install (if that's what you used)
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[03:03] <ArNezT> ok i'll try
[03:03] <azriel> i need certain modules for gstreamer and I'm having a hard time finding them so i just want to download all of them, a complete gstreamer
[03:04] <apwbdjp> azriel, http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/modules/ one by one to apt-get install?
[03:04] <apwbdjp> azriel, they're not that many
[03:05] <azriel> thx
[03:05] <azriel> they all say unable to find package
[03:06] <apwbdjp> azriel, the names might vary. Use apt-get install gst[tab][tab], it'll give you a list
[03:07] <apwbdjp> To everyone else: No one knows of a single package that holds them all?
[03:07] <azriel>  do i type it as [tab][tab]?
[03:07] <L1nuxRules> azriel aptitude is better to deal with dependencies than apt-get sometimes
[03:07] <OttScorp> no you press the tab key
[03:07] <azriel> or do you mean use the tab key?
[03:08] <OttScorp> it's like an autocomplete thing
[03:08] <|Long|> hi, guys is there away on ssh screen to view the boot screen error msg?
[03:08] <apwbdjp> azbarcea_, tab key, twice
[03:08] <Yerushalmi> Every so often, usually when something tries to play a sound, the sound icon disappears from my upper bar, then reappears at full volume - even if sound was previously muted. If I'm trying to prevent popup windows from making "bonk" noises when I'm in class this is extremely inconvenient and irritating. Can someone help me figure out why this is happening and stop it?
[03:08] <Nichola> I am still working on my laptop trying to install ubuntu...I am back at the welcome screen with a frozen mousepad and can't tab either to select the options. I am trying to install to a gateway model W340UI if that helps any...
[03:08] <OttScorp> gives you a list of options based on what you typed
[03:08] <|Long|> hi, guys is there away on ssh screen to view the boot screen error msg?
[03:09] <L1nuxRules> |Long| yes check /var/log/dmesg
[03:09] <|Long|> thanks
[03:09] <Nichola> how long should I let this just set here before assuming it is stuck?
[03:09] <OttScorp> have you done a media check on the install cd Nichola?
[03:10] <OttScorp> any hard disk activity?
[03:10] <ebswift> i'm having trouble getting auto login to work - i have edited my user settings to 'Automatic Login' but i'm still prompted for a password at boot (11.10)
[03:11] <L1nuxRules> nichola could be the laptop power safe options (achpi or something) try disabling them during boot
[03:13] <OttScorp> ebswift: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin  not sure if this helps
[03:13] <azriel> what does [tab][tab] mean?
[03:14] <OttScorp> or this might be better http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-10-how-to-auto-login-gnome-shell-gnome3-desktop
[03:14] <apwbdjp> Nichola, can you download and burn a Ubuntu alternate install CD?
[03:14] <OttScorp> azriel - it means to press the tab key itself twice
[03:14] <ebswift> thanks OttScorp, i'll give it a go
[03:14] <puff> apwbdjp: So, I went through all of those troubleshooting steps, no luck.
[03:15] <Nichola> well, I can't burn a cd, my drives, all of them have given up on me =(
[03:15] <Nichola> I am using a usb drive to install...
[03:15] <Nichola> are you thinking that is causing issues?
[03:16] <OttScorp> when you boot from the usb stick.. is there not an option to "check the install media"
[03:17] <L1nuxRules> your failed drives could be hanging the boot yes, you could try removing silet and splah fromm the boot option
[03:17] <OttScorp> I'll ask again.. during the install.. are there any hard disk activity during the install?
[03:17] <azriel> ottscorp apwbdjp: my fine sirs you have been more helpful to me than the rest of the internets and google combined
[03:17] <apwbdjp> Nichola, it shouldn't, just that the Ubuntu Live CD requires a lot of i/o, from a USB stick there's more chance of failure..
[03:17] <L1nuxRules> ^^ to get an error that is
[03:17] <Nichola> I am not sure how to check the power options. One thing about this computer, I am locked out of the BIOS. It is a used laptop.
[03:18] <apwbdjp> Nichola, okkay, that's hard. (even if you get through the install fine, you should consider removing the CMOS battery to reset the password, might come in handy later)
[03:18] <OttScorp> not sure if there is a cmos battery in laptops
[03:18] <OttScorp> k.. apwbdjp confirms cmos battery in laptops :-)
[03:18] <L1nuxRules> nichola at the grub prompt type e then scroll to the 2nd line and press e then delete the quiet and splash entries you should get an error during boot then
[03:19] <apwbdjp> puff, I didn't forget you, just hang on with me for a second
[03:19] <L1nuxRules> once youve modified grub press esc then b
[03:19] <Weisz> Allo
[03:19] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, he's far away from there yet, he's still trying to install
 ok , I really need to read everything dont I :(
[03:20] <Morpheus34> 'ello
[03:21] <apwbdjp> Nichola, your laptop has ethernet connectivity, and can be connected with it right now, right?
[03:21] <Nichola> Okay, I read what you wrote, and can do that, once I figure out how to get to grub and what it is....=D
[03:21] <lolcat> Can I wget mms://mms-icanal-odc.online.no/norsk-ripub/autodistribusjon/NRK3_201111092212_KOID_200091_11_170_1000.wmv ?
[03:21] <usr13> lolcat: Sure, why not?
[03:21] <Nichola> yes, it does, if you mean through a cord?
[03:22] <dr_willis> lolcat:  try it and see? if not theres programs like streamtuner, or vlc, or others that can capture/save streams
[03:22] <lolcat> dr_willis: didn't want to
[03:22] <L1nuxRules> nichola I might have gone too many steps ahead from where your at <apwbdjp> is up to speed with your probs though
[03:22] <lolcat> usr13: mms://?
[03:22] <ArNezT> how repair users and group settings when i pressed Advanced Settings the form vibrating
[03:22] <apwbdjp> Nichola, Yep, it's what I meant
[03:22] <ArNezT> how to repair users and group settings when i pressed Advanced Settings the form vibrating?
[03:23] <Gremuchnik> Hi!  Quick question: I don't like Unity, but I do like GNOME3.  Will Ubuntu 12.04 offer GNOME3 without Unity, the regular "original" GNOME3
[03:23] <fellayaboy> can someone tell me why transmission halts my internet in ubuntu 11.04?  the port is opened and ive lowered the peers connections to about 5 and i still get my internet to halt on my wireless
[03:24] <OttScorp> try LXDE Gremuchnik :-)
[03:24] <apwbdjp> Nichola, do you have a working linux machine at your hand?
[03:24] <ArNezT> Gremuchnik: may be you can use ubuntu no-effect from login menu :)
[03:24] <Nichola> no
[03:24] <OttScorp> Ubuntu plans on sticking with Unity
[03:24] <L1nuxRules> gremuchink although I cant answer your question, you can install and use any desktop in Linux
[03:24] <usr13> lolcat: Oh, yea, myabe you need streamripper or something.  But if you just want to watch it, try gxine
[03:24] <OttScorp> or perhaps http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/257045-How-to-record-streaming-WMV-ASF-MMS-links-using-VLC-Media-Player
[03:25] <OttScorp> for lolcat
[03:25] <ArNezT> how to repair users and group settings when i pressed Advanced Settings the form vibrating?
[03:25] <MaynardWaters> I am trying to figure out how to mount a raid 5 array that was built with a fedora 12 mdadm program
[03:25] <Gremuchnik> Unity is called a GNOME plugin.  BUt does that mean that only a Unity-version of GNOME will be available in he future?
[03:25] <lolcat> pumafyre: Can I do it command line? I want it on my boxee box
[03:25] <apwbdjp> puff, you might wanna say your problem clearly (when did the problem happen, how is it showing up exactly? did you notice anything while troubleshooting, does the sound come back as some point, etc)
[03:25] <OttScorp> sorry ArnetzT.. don't know
[03:25] <MaynardWaters> I can see all of the drives and that they are raid autodetect, but I have no /dev/md*
[03:26] <apwbdjp> Nichola, I see.. can you make a USB stick from the Ubuntu Minimal CD? (that'll have a lot more chances of working)
[03:26] <Nichola> okay, where is that?
[03:26] <sean_> Hello.
[03:26] <Nichola> is there a place to download it?
[03:26] <sean_> Does anyone know how to change unity side bar settins?
[03:26] <fellayaboy> i agree i dont prefer unity myself
[03:27] <L1nuxRules> gremuchink thats one for the ones more experienced with gui than myself, think its something to do with API's though
[03:27] <apwbdjp> puff, and sorry for the long silence, just say your problem, maybe someone else will help you.
[03:27] <apwbdjp> Nichola, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD here
[03:27] <fellayaboy> thats one reason i havent upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04 because its a little moer cumbersome to switch to gnome from what ive heard
[03:28] <OttScorp> fellayaboy: you can always use another desktop
[03:28] <sean_> I just don't like it showing up every time I try to go back a page.
[03:28] <OttScorp> like LXDE, KDE, etc
[03:28] <czx> I need copied file to blend permissions and owner and acl, will cp copy them instead?
[03:28] <apwbdjp> Nichola, it's designed so that everything (the entire system) comes from the internet, and not from the media itself.
[03:28] <fellayaboy> i prefer gnome though :/
[03:28]  * Gremuchnik is still confused
[03:28] <OttScorp> can't help you  there sean as I don't use Unity
[03:28] <Gremuchnik> there will be no such thing as an Ubuntu distro with the regular GNOME3?!
[03:29] <fellayaboy> Gremuchnik, i hope thats not rue
[03:29] <OttScorp> I don't think so
[03:29] <fellayaboy> true*
[03:29] <apwbdjp> Nichola, is has just the minimal network drivers so that it can download Ubuntu system.
[03:29] <L1nuxRules> gnome3 isnt nice either
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> Gremuchnik: Ubuntu has Gnome 3.
[03:29] <sean_> I think that you can change the desktop from the log in screen.
[03:29] <OttScorp> agree L1nuxRules
[03:29] <Gremuchnik> tonyyarusso, already now?
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> Gremuchnik: yes
[03:29] <Gremuchnik> really?
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> Gremuchnik: Really.
[03:30] <Nichola> okay, thanks. So can I just use this on my usb drive, like I am doing now?
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> Just install it.
[03:30] <Gremuchnik> great!
[03:30] <fellayaboy> whoa no way thats very disappointing. i love the way gnome works. u can fit a ton more on the panel than u can in unities
[03:30] <Gremuchnik> I will do that
[03:30] <Gremuchnik> thanks
[03:30] <L1nuxRules> but we are using Linux we can rewrite gnome 2.6 if we want
[03:30] <czx> how to copy files without ACLS?
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> !nounity | Gremuchnik
[03:30] <pumafyre> lolcat what?
[03:30] <Gremuchnik> cya guys!
[03:30] <Gremuchnik> bye
[03:30] <lolcat> pumafyre: Boxee box
[03:30] <OttScorp> try this command "sudo apt-get install lxde-desktop" to get the LXDE desktop
[03:30] <apwbdjp> Nichola, yep. It has no graphical interface, but it'll guide you nicely through the install.
[03:30] <pumafyre> I saw that
[03:30] <pumafyre> what are you talking about?
[03:30] <apwbdjp> Nichola, if you stuck anywhere, we're right here.
[03:30] <lolcat> pumafyre: boxee box
[03:30] <fellayaboy> it should be more work to install unity than gnome3
[03:31] <fellayaboy> thats how it should be configured
[03:31] <fellayaboy> in my opnion
[03:31] <Nichola> okay, great. Would you recommend the Ubuntu 11.10 or....?
[03:31] <sean_> what is the best gnome3 platform?
[03:31] <OttScorp> If you want a regular GNOME desktop (2.xx).. use Linux mint
[03:31] <L1nuxRules> nichola if your new stick with 10.04 LTS
[03:31] <OttScorp> best Gnome3 platform?? I believe that would be Fedora 16
[03:31] <tonyyarusso> sean_: I haven't tried it myself, but from what I've seen probably Fedora.
[03:32] <Nichola> okay, got it.
[03:32] <OttScorp> or do 10.04LTS
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> sean_: Of course, you'll have to live with RPM-land.
[03:32] <L1nuxRules> fedora is yes been gnome 3 since 15
[03:32] <fellayaboy> dont like rpm
[03:32] <fellayaboy> sudo apt-get install is god
[03:32] <L1nuxRules> rpm is good if you are :)
[03:32] <OttScorp> doesn't matter why do you care about package managers
[03:32] <fellayaboy> plus deb :)
[03:32] <vietred> hi everyone!
[03:32] <OttScorp> they all do the same thing
[03:32] <sean_> tonyyarussi: What is RPM?
[03:32] <apwbdjp> BRB
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> OttScorp: If you want a Gnome 2.x desktop, the correct answer is "give up".  Gnome 2 is no longer developed upstream, so will be dropped by all distros in due time.
[03:33] <L1nuxRules> red hat package something
[03:33] <vietred> how do I remove gnome-shell without install unity?
[03:33] <OttScorp> that's true tony
[03:33] <fellayaboy> sean_,  ubuntu uses deb to install packages and programs..some others like red hat , fedora ,opensuse use rpm
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> sean_: Red Hat Package Manager.
[03:33] <sean_> So some of the apps that I use now will be unavailable?
[03:33] <L1nuxRules> :)
[03:34] <fellayaboy> sean_, they can and will
[03:34] <OttScorp> No.. your apps that use under gnome will still be available
[03:34] <sean_> Ok, is it just a little rougher?
[03:34] <OttScorp> since they are GTK apps (most likely) and there are other desktops that supports gnome programs
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> sean_: There are differences between every distro in terms of what software is available, but deb/apt vs. rpm/yum is a matter of how you install them rather than what exists.
[03:34] <OttScorp> by way of using gnome libraries
[03:34] <fellayaboy> just a little in my opinion sean_
[03:34] <czx> sean_, it's a little better
[03:35] <Yerushalmi> Every so often, usually when something tries to play a sound, the sound icon disappears from my upper bar, then reappears at full volume - even if sound was previously muted. If I'm trying to prevent popup windows from making "bonk" noises when I'm in class this is extremely inconvenient and irritating. Can someone help me figure out why this is happening and stop it?
[03:35] <fellayaboy> deb works very well but u will see ...u should just try it out anyway just to see sean_
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> sean_: It's one of those silly little things that us Linux folk have a tendency to get surprisingly worked up about even though to an outsider or beginner the two options appear very much alike.  :P
[03:35] <OttScorp> tony nails it.. he's right
[03:35] <OttScorp> it's just a package manager
[03:35] <OttScorp> used to install stuff
[03:36] <apwbdjp> Back.
[03:36] <fellayaboy> sean_, try an rpm distro like redhat or fedora
[03:36] <L1nuxRules> rpm isnt a package manager yum is rpm is a package :)
[03:37] <sean_> I love ubuntu, but some things have been getting to me lately.
[03:37] <OttScorp> ok ok.. thanks L1nuxRules :-p :-)
[03:37] <sean_> Such as multiples of icons on the top bar which I can't change, unity getting out of hand, etc.
[03:37] <L1nuxRules> yum is the equivalent of apt and rpm is the equiv of deb
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> L1nuxRules: Actually, rpm is a package manager as well as a format.  It's just that yum is better at being a package manager than rpm is :P  Really yum is just a frontend to rpm.
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> Much like apt is a frontend to dpkg.
[03:37] <fellayaboy> sean_, yeah its easy to install using sudo apt-get install but u would use yum..i havent used it in a long time but when i did it was cumbersome but that was a long time ago
[03:38] <smw> L1nuxRules, rpm is a package manager
[03:38] <L1nuxRules> rpm doesent manage packages without intervention so isnt a manager
[03:38] <L1nuxRules> yum uses a db unlike rpm
[03:39] <smw> L1nuxRules, it manages packages. It does the install and uninstall. It also keeps track of which files belong to what package
[03:39] <fellayaboy> sean_, yeah thas why i stuck with 11.04 because theirs an option before you log in to use no effect or classic with effects
[03:39] <fellayaboy> it uses gnome off the bat but in 11.04 u have to configure it which sucks big time
[03:39] <L1nuxRules> it doesent you use it to do that
[03:39] <sean_> Is there a way that I can run an update to Fedora?  I have 99 gig of music that I don't want to work on transfering.
[03:39] <OttScorp> you mean like going from one version to the next?
[03:40] <fellayaboy> sean_,  no u cant really just update to fedora...u could dual boot..install fedora as another operating system alongside ubuntu
[03:40] <smw> L1nuxRules, you don't understand what a package manager is. There are some package managers that DON'T fetch packages from the internet with dependencies and install it for you.
[03:40] <sean_> Yeah, but I am already dual booting with windows...
[03:40] <L1nuxRules> smw ok thats why Im LPI lvl 2 is it?
[03:40] <OttScorp> oh.. going from ubuntu to fedora.. no.. you'll need to install fedora.. along side with ubuntu.. dual boot
[03:40] <fellayaboy> so when u boot up your machine u can choose between fedora or ubuntu... while in fedora ur ubuntu harddrive space should be avialable
[03:40] <fellayaboy> yeah but u could add another one if u want
[03:41] <czx> what's LPI?
[03:41] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, take it literal. Package managers manage packages. Which the rpm executable does pretty much.
[03:41] <L1nuxRules> Linux professional institute
[03:41] <OttScorp> google it czx
[03:41] <yeats> sean_: if you just want to run Gnome3, installing it on Ubuntu is very straightforward
[03:41] <yeats> !nounity | sean_
[03:41] <JeZ-I-Lee> www.16BitSoft.com
[03:41] <smw> L1nuxRules, certifications do not prove you have any idea what you are talking about :-P
[03:42] <OttScorp> I'm with smw on that one
 I see where is coming from thinking of it in that context yes.
[03:42] <L1nuxRules> he*
[03:42] <sean_> Yes, but I think I'm just looking for a change at the moment anyway.
[03:42] <smw> L1nuxRules, we were arguing about openssh yesterday. You seem to stick by whatever you say without listening as everyone else tell you you are wrong.
[03:43] <sean_> I have all my music on windows partition anyway, just is there any method of making sure that it is actually there and not a shortcut?
[03:43] <fellayaboy> well use virtualbox sean_  ...install a linux operating system on it and find out which one u like best ...thats what i would recommend
[03:43] <L1nuxRules> just im my eyes rpm is the package and yes rpm lets you use/manipulate the package but it doesent do what yum does and thats the reason red hat took it from yellow dog
[03:43] <republican_> SUP
[03:43] <republican_> I NEED HELP WITH ME WINDOWS XP DRIVERS
[03:43] <smw> L1nuxRules, try out slackware. That has a very barebones package manager. Try to learn the purpose for a package manager. What did its invention solve?
[03:43] <fellayaboy> u know what virtualbox is sean_
[03:43] <L1nuxRules> slackware rules :)
[03:43] <L1nuxRules> I used it for years
[03:44] <republican_> never used slackware
[03:44] <czx> how to copy files without ACLS?
[03:44]  * republican_ still needs help
[03:44] <L1nuxRules> I do source installs :)
[03:44] <smw> L1nuxRules, that is true, yum does not do what rpm does. It uses RPM to provide a nicer interface
[03:44] <sean_> I've never tried it, fella.
[03:44] <OttScorp> I have no desire to go look for files to resolve depencies
[03:44] <yeats> republican_: wrong channel for Windows XP
[03:44] <republican_> no
[03:44] <L1nuxRules> smw why I said at the beginning rpm is as good as the user
[03:44] <urlin2u> republican_, you might try the ##windows channel unless that something to do with ubuntu
[03:44] <apwbdjp> republican_, why was I sure you were gonna say this..
[03:44] <republican_> i need windows xp and linux
[03:45]  * republican_ is in the right channel!
[03:45] <smw> L1nuxRules, do you know what problem rpm solved? Do you know what problem yum solved?
[03:45] <republican_> maybe yeats is in the wrong chan
[03:45] <republican_> get the fuk out yeats
[03:45] <republican_> YEA YOU
[03:45] <qin> !op
[03:45] <republican_> urlin2u: u too!
[03:45] <urlin2u> lol
[03:45] <L1nuxRules> yum is more verbose and easier to understand for novices
[03:45] <iofter> How to use Ubuntu
[03:46] <L1nuxRules> yum handles deps better
[03:46] <smw> L1nuxRules, that is not the question I asked
[03:46] <OttScorp> what is that from ubottu?
[03:46] <republican_> no!
[03:46] <republican_> yum has nothing on pkgin
[03:46] <smw> L1nuxRules, that is incorrect. Try again
[03:46] <sean_> How do you install virtualbox?
[03:46] <Zeelot> hey guys, I have 11.10 running on a new MacBook Pro (8,2) but the wired connection doesn't seem to work. Anyone have any ideas? The wiki says it should be working out of the box
[03:46] <Logan_> !virtualbox | sean_
[03:46] <czx> holy ..., yum and rpm are completely different software, stop that
[03:46] <Flannel> republican_: Please get ontopic now and remain there.  Thanks.
[03:46] <czx> how to copy files without ACLS?
[03:46] <L1nuxRules> ask the question again please?
[03:46] <smw> L1nuxRules, want to take this to offtopic?
[03:46] <L1nuxRules> no
[03:46] <smw> L1nuxRules, what is the problem rpm solved? What is the problem yum solved?
[03:46] <republican_> hrmm
[03:46] <sean_> Can I just get it from the software center?
[03:47] <republican_> Flannel: wanna take this pm ?
[03:47] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, the metaphore given before was right. yum is to rpm what apt is to dpkg.
[03:47] <Flannel> republican_: No.  I want you to stop being offtopic.
[03:47] <republican_> i got a beef with linux
[03:47] <apwbdjp> !op
[03:47] <yeats> sean_: 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose'
[03:47] <scratchingmyhead> Advanced help needed PLEASE....   I have a pandigital novel 2gig multimedia reader and there is an upgrade to be done.  It only works with windozzze because when I click the link on the site I go directly to " open with wine" but it doesn't work????
[03:47] <smw> L1nuxRules, apwbdjp is correct. But I don't believe you know what the relationship is between apt and dpkg.
[03:47] <Logan_> !windoze | scratchingmyhead
[03:48] <aeon-ltd> scratchingmyhead: so the update is a exe?
[03:48] <OttScorp> oh.. ubottu is a bot eh?
[03:48] <L1nuxRules> smw I do , but like all my understanding of things I never express it properly
[03:48] <Flannel> OttScorp: yes
[03:48] <Logan_> !bot | OttScorp
[03:49] <scratchingmyhead> anyway... I get the blocked wine /unix    Yes it is an exe
[03:49] <smw> L1nuxRules, so can you answer the two questions I gave you? It is the same with dpkg and apt if you prefer to answer using those
[03:49] <czx> if I copy a file with cp thing, what will happen with its ACL?
[03:49] <sean_> Thank you everyone, I'm really happy how nice post of the people here are.. *cough* repubican*cough*
[03:49] <Pici> apwbdjp: Yes>
[03:49] <sean_> publican**
[03:49] <Pici> ?
[03:49] <Flannel> sean_: He's gone now, by the way.
[03:49] <L1nuxRules> but apt/aptitude is to dpkg as to what yum is to rpm
[03:49] <dcherniv> !botsnack
[03:49] <czx> it will remain as source or be taken from destination directory?
[03:49] <L1nuxRules> and if you disagree you need to learn Linux more
[03:49] <sean_> Ah.
[03:49] <scratchingmyhead> aeon-ltd   I get that with any .exe I try to open... what is the work around or is there one??
[03:50] <smw> L1nuxRules, yes, but you never answered my base question. What problem did dpkg/rpm solve? What problem did apt/yum solve?
[03:50] <aeon-ltd> scratchingmyhead: then i'm afraid you may be at a loss, i've had to do a firmware update to a internal mem card reader - no way would it work (plus the risk of corruption) in linux so i used a free beta copy of win7
[03:50] <OttScorp> right click on the exe and set the allow to execute permissions?
[03:50] <apwbdjp> Pici, sorry, things went wrong (republican_ left as you can see it)
[03:50] <Pici> apwbdjp: ah, okay.
[03:50] <L1nuxRules> smw it made admin tasks quicker and easier to automate
[03:51] <OttScorp> and with wine.. check out http://www.winehq.org/ to see application compatibility
[03:51] <OttScorp> not all windows programs work in wine
[03:51] <scratchingmyhead> aeon-ltd free beta of win 7??  does it still exist?
[03:51] <smw> L1nuxRules, you are being far too general. What specific problem in admin was dpkg/apt trying to solve?
[03:51] <czx> scratchingmyhead, only in illegal torrents
[03:51] <smw> L1nuxRules, sorry, dpkg/rpm
[03:51] <OttScorp> stop bugging him smw
[03:52] <L1nuxRules> smw where did we come to one was a problem?
[03:52] <smw> OttScorp, fine :-)
[03:52] <Nichola> when does my system need to be connected to the internet?
[03:52] <aeon-ltd> scratchingmyhead: i had a old iso
[03:52] <scratchingmyhead> :(   Thanks anyway for the help.
[03:52] <L1nuxRules> this started on the differences ?
[03:52] <OttScorp> it saves users having to hunt depencies
[03:52] <L1nuxRules> ^^
[03:52] <Nichola> during the whole process or after it installs...
[03:53] <sean_> Other than fedora, what versions would you guys recommend?
[03:53] <apwbdjp> Nichola, the Ubuntu disk will tell you it wants to configure dhcp network, then make sure you're connected. Best would be to plug to firewire from the beggining
[03:53] <OttScorp> Nichola: it would be good to be connected to the net to do the updates as well during the install
[03:53] <aeon-ltd> scratchingmyhead: the downloads from microsoft might still exist i'll do some searching; but i'd look for a better way if the update is important - the win7 method took 1 hour to do
[03:53] <smw> L1nuxRules, the point of package managers was to allow packages to be installed and uninstalled. It also allowed you to specify dependencies and conflicts. It kept records of what file belonged to what program.
[03:53] <L1nuxRules> versions of what sean red hat or Linux?
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> Nichola: During the install process, there is an optional checkbox for "fetch updates from the internet during install", or something to that effect.  If you check that, you need an Internet connection.  If you don't, you don't.
[03:53] <smw> L1nuxRules, rpm/dpkg did that.
[03:53] <apwbdjp> OttScorp, I've given him a minimalcd, for the install, he will NEED to be connected.
[03:53] <sean_> L1nux, I'm not sure what red hat is?
[03:54] <OttScorp> oh.. sorry apwbdjp
[03:54] <OttScorp> didn't realize that :-)
[03:54] <L1nuxRules> smw I know just Im looking at it from a more modern view
[03:54] <smw> L1nuxRules, apt and yum were added on top to allow for automatic downloading and installing of packages including their dependencies
[03:54] <czx> if I copy a file with cp thing, what will happen with its ACL?
[03:54] <sean_> Or how they are different
[03:54] <apwbdjp> OttScorp, it's alright. easy to miss things in here ^^
[03:54] <smw> L1nuxRules, if you don't understand the basics, you can not possibly understand the complex :-)
[03:55] <L1nuxRules> smw I do understand the complex though sometimes more than the basic :)
[03:55] <OttScorp> lol
[03:56] <qin> L1nuxRules: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_package_management_systems#Linux_distributions
[03:56] <smw> L1nuxRules, so... the original debate: how is rpm not a package manager?
[03:57] <L1nuxRules> ^^ I am LPI lvl 2 LVL 1 deals with package management but not drunkness :)
[03:57] <Nichola> how long is normal to see the choose language screen?
[03:58] <apwbdjp> Nichola, you picked, and it's still frozen?
[03:58] <OttScorp> g'night all.. have a good one
[03:58] <Nichola> seems to be......
[03:58] <L1nuxRules> gnight
[03:58] <apwbdjp> smw, L1nuxRules, I believe this: rpm is a package manager for the rpm packages, just like dpkg manages .deb packages. both rpm and dpkg have yum and apt that keep track of dependencies, source lists, and downloads.
[03:59] <smw> apwbdjp, nope, rpm and dpkg keep track of dependencies
[03:59] <weside> So anybody here have probs with the Unity interface?.
[03:59] <apwbdjp> smw, hum.. I thought apt did that
[03:59] <smw> apwbdjp, yum/apt keep track of source lists and downloads
[03:59] <L1nuxRules> smw they dont deal with them though
[04:00] <smw> apwbdjp, rpm will stop you from installing a package with a dep not installed
[04:00] <L1nuxRules> they do as you say
[04:00] <L1nuxRules> smw no it wont --nodeps
[04:00] <bazhang> !ot
[04:00] <smw> apwbdjp, yum will fetch the dep as well
[04:00] <apwbdjp> L1nuxRules, you can force anything in a machine's throat, a good manager will tell you not to, but you still can.
[04:01] <bazhang> smw, apwbdjp L1nuxRules lets move on
[04:01] <L1nuxRules> agreed
[04:01] <apwbdjp> Nichola, hum.. you used the same media as the one you tried to use with the regular cd?
[04:01] <Yerushalmi> Every so often, usually when something tries to play a sound, the sound icon disappears from my upper bar, then reappears at full volume - even if sound was previously muted. If I'm trying to prevent popup windows from making "bonk" noises when I'm in class this is extremely inconvenient and irritating. Can someone help me figure out why this is happening and stop it?
[04:01] <smw> weside, are you here to gripe about unity or ask for advice on avoiding it?
[04:01] <smw> weside, I suggest xfce if you are attempting to avoid it on 11.10
[04:02] <Nichola> if you mean the same usb drive, yes
[04:02] <smw> weside, if you are here to make sure others agree unity is bad... yes, there are many of us
[04:02] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: can you make it happen right now, if you wanted to? hard to debug intermittent problems :\
[04:02] <apwbdjp> Nichola, then it might be faulty, did the installer, at the beggining, give you a menu with a possibility to check the media integrity?
[04:03] <Nichola> hmmm, I saw something like that, but I thought it was the hard drive of the computer...
[04:03] <weside> Yeah I had Unity crash on me a few times using the dash search thing, and that unconfigurable sidebar launcher thing yeah, I did get XFCE and LXDE/OPENBOX so I can switch sessions, much happier. :)
[04:04] <apwbdjp> Nichola, no, ubuntu has the ability to check itself before installing, reboot, and do that option
[04:04] <apwbdjp> Nichola, if that freezes, or fails, then it's the usb drive, you'll have to use another one
[04:04] <smw> weside, I tried them all. xfce and kde are my top two choices. After gnome2 of course
[04:05] <L1nuxRules> xfce not a bad 2nd to gnome2
[04:05] <Nichola> no, this version doesn't have it, the other one did...
[04:06] <smw> +1 L1nuxRules
[04:06] <gebbione> pdfs are totally corrupt on ubuntu 11.10 ,,, i can see them all fine on other systems but for some reasons document viewer cannot handle the pdfs properly and shows most of them with bad rendering ... really bad like scrambled background etc. Any idea what is the best thing to do ? libraries or other things missing?
[04:06] <Nichola> it has advanced options, but that isn't in the menu
[04:06] <L1nuxRules> not used it since mandrake though
[04:06] <apwbdjp> Nichola, sorry for all the trouble, can you get back to the other disk, and use it?
[04:07] <L1nuxRules> I used it because I still do hate kde and used it before gnome
[04:07] <smw> L1nuxRules, mandrake... as in before mandriva? xfce has come very far since then
[04:07] <Nichola> yeah, I can put it back on the usb..
[04:08] <L1nuxRules> yes before mandriva I used red hat 4 around then also , before enterprise :)
[04:08] <weside> I tried the new Gnome Shell too, had cool features but felt kinda like something was missing... Just trying to find the best wm / desktop environment  for Ubuntu without sacraficing too many features.
[04:08] <apwbdjp> Nichola, feel like I wasted your time with the Minimal CD, my bad. Just put it back and check the disk integrity please. Even if I don't see any other possibility.
[04:08] <smw> L1nuxRules, mind if I PM you?
[04:08] <L1nuxRules> go ahead
[04:08] <dr_willis> best wm totally depends on how you work. :-)
[04:08] <apwbdjp> Nichola, the installer hasn't even gotten to hardware detection yet, the only reason it would freeze would be a faulty media.
[04:09] <Nichola> no, prob, I am just feeding my baby...
[04:09] <pangolin> Can we please keep the topic in here strictly Ubuntu support, we have a lovely channel full of interesting people for your chatting convenience named #ubuntu-offtopic.
[04:09] <apwbdjp> Nichola, I don't know if you're being litteral or not, so I'll pretend I didn't read you.
[04:09] <dr_willis> polite pangolin  ;)
[04:10] <outboundary>  /window 3
[04:10] <fellayaboy> hey is their a known bug in ubuntu that makes the internet faulter when u use transmission?
[04:10] <dr_willis> gebbione:  it messes up all pdfs or just some
[04:11] <Nichola> lol, my little is up and I am feeding her while I work on  this...
[04:11] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, faulter in what way? Like die? Or just slow down?
[04:11] <gebbione> messes up their visualisation
[04:11] <fellayaboy> apwbdjp, well ultimately just shutting itself down..nothing loads..i always have to reconnect wirelessly
[04:11] <gebbione> the pdfs are fine if viewed from another machine like with acrobat reader on windows
[04:12] <dr_willis> gebbione:  it messes up all pdfs ? even real simple ones?
[04:12] <fellayaboy> just the laptop itself stops receiving internet... cant browse no internet connects
[04:12] <fellayaboy> and im using ubuntu on the laptop
[04:12] <apwbdjp> Nichola, I'm here for two more hours, and there are many other people here to assist you. Take your time, tell me when you tried with the regular CD.
[04:12] <fellayaboy> and im running transmission in ubuntu on the laptop just in case ur wondering
[04:13] <gebbione> dr_willis: i saw some pdfs correctly before but the ones i generate by scanning in from my scanner are all fairly complex due to OCR
[04:13] <gebbione> and they all fail
[04:13] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, does network manager still says you're online, when that happens?
[04:13] <gebbione> other pdfs i downloaded from online are fine
[04:13] <fellayaboy> using a wireless signal...however when i use utorrent on windows 7 it works perfect..so its not the router itself having too much traffic
[04:14] <fellayaboy> well nothing loads..thats all i can truly say..transmission everythign goes down to 0.00kbps download speed, on any browser it says webpages cant load..then i have to click my wap and reconnect then everything works fine and its only on transmission
[04:14] <dr_willis> bbl
[04:14] <gebbione> dr_willis: in 11.04 i did not have the problem
[04:14] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, to not ask you too many questions, I'll just suggest this: try deluge torrent client (sudo apt-get install deluge), if that works fine, then it's a transmission problem.
[04:14] <fellayaboy> it only occurs when i use transmission
[04:15] <fellayaboy> apwbdjp, yeah i talked to #transmission and it said its probably a ubuntu problem
[04:15] <fellayaboy> ima see deluge and see if that works
[04:15] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, sure. Let us know.
[04:16] <fellayaboy> ill let u know how deluge goes
[04:16] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, to be honest I never liked transmission, I use rtorrent (command line), and deluge some times.
[04:16] <fellayaboy> yeah i should just use rtorrent...see if that works..i use it when i ssh
[04:16] <smw> +1 rtorrent
[04:17] <Miguelito> hello there
[04:17] <Miguelito> I am trying for the first time the Empathy
[04:18] <padhu> How can i change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash"
[04:18] <padhu> in grub.cfg
[04:19] <jrogge> hey guys, i just wrote a paper for about two hours and tried to close another libre office document and hit discrad but accidentally discarded the paper! is it possible to recover it somehow? a google search didn
[04:19] <gebbione> padhu: sudo gedit grub.cfg ?
[04:19] <jrogge> 't*didn't turn up much
[04:20] <derek__> does anyone know any content streaming software I can use to stream hulu to my wii?  Like "playon.tv" only linux-friendly?
[04:21] <jrogge> is it possible to recover unsaved, discarded documents? or do i have to just rewrite it?
[04:21] <Arcademan> jrogge, its would be gone :|
[04:21] <jrogge> D:
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> padhu: /etc/default/grub
[04:21] <jrogge> okay, thanks for your time
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> jrogge: Often it is, yes
[04:21] <padhu> tonyyarusso: i made it
[04:21] <apwbdjp> jrogge, I guess it's gone.. don't you do incremental saves? I mean a 2 hours job..
[04:21] <Arcademan> np thats why people are here :)
[04:22] <jrogge> no
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> jrogge: Had you saved the document even once, earlier?
[04:22] <padhu> tonyyarusso: I got it from askubuntu, thanx
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> oh
[04:22] <jrogge> nope
[04:22] <padhu> :-)
[04:22] <jrogge> i wrote it in 1 sitting
[04:22] <padhu> let me try
[04:22] <jrogge> usually i don't spend more than 30 mins on a paper so i make myself save it
[04:22] <Arcademan> lol jrogge Id use save more :P
[04:22] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: Sorry, I didn't notice that you'd answered, another window took my attention. For the most part I can get it to happen pretty reliably. It usually happens whenever I don't have anything using sound, and then I type, say, backspace in KildClient, which gives me a can't-do-this beep. It also happens often when I start playing a youtube video.
[04:22] <jrogge> ugh, i guess i learned my lesson :(
[04:23] <fellayaboy> well deluge seems to be working fine so far ill give it another 10 to 15 to see if it kicked me off my wlan
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> jrogge: yeah - if you had ever saved the contents to disk and then deleted them, we could help you, but if you just typed stuff in and then closed it you're out of luck.
[04:23] <brjannc> jrogge: my libreoffice is set up to autosave recovery information every 15 minutes, so it might still be somewhere
[04:23] <apwbdjp> jrogge, I guess you'll have to rewrite it. Just keep in mind to save regularly on this kind of job..
[04:23] <fellayaboy> seems to work reallly good too
[04:23] <jrogge> brjannac: if it is, where would it be?
[04:23] <brjannc> jrogge: (assuming yours is, too -- check Tools->Options->Load/Save->General, and see if the boxes are ticked. if they are, you might not have to give up hope *just* yet
[04:24] <jrogge> okay, i'll be back in a sec
[04:24] <DJredstar> Hi, my iPod nano 6G isnt working with my computer on ubuntu. It's worked before in
[04:24] <DJredstar> the past, but today it doesnt show up as being connected to my netbook.
[04:24] <jrogge> wait, tools? where is that> sorry, i'm pretty new to linux and trying to learn it still
[04:24] <jrogge> *that?
[04:25] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: no worries. my advice would be to open a terminal window and $ tail -f /var/log/messages, then try and reproduce the problem and see if anything's logging a crash
[04:25] <brjannc> jrogge: in libreoffice writer. tools menu, click options, expand the load/save tree, click general
[04:25] <jrogge> oh okay
[04:26] <jrogge> YES! Save AutoRecovery information every 15 minutes
[04:27] <jrogge> so where is that?
[04:27] <brjannc> jrogge: excellent question! trying to find out now
[04:27] <brjannc> jrogge: give me a few minutes to try and duplicate what happened to you
[04:27] <jrogge> and i'll run a unix scan over the DOS base!
[04:28] <jrogge> lol or google it
[04:29] <brjannc> jrogge: hehe, it doesn't seem entirely clear where libreoffice stashes its autorecovery data
[04:29] <Koter> So, I have a printer on my work network. A Cannon MF4450. It's attached to a windows box by USB. There are even linux drivers for it. Problem... I can't install those drivers because they require gs-esp, which has been replaced by gs-common in 11.10... and the drivers haven't been updated. So how can I install gs-esp?
[04:30] <jrogge> seems logical that it's where ever the libre office source is save too?
[04:30] <jrogge> ill try whereis LibreOffice
[04:30] <brjannc> jrogge: open a folder explorer window for me and go to your home directory
[04:30] <brjannc> jrogge: no, I think I've found it
[04:30] <GrubChanges> Hi everyone. I'm trying to make a fix for an issue permanent.
[04:30] <GrubChanges> When I boot i need to add linux -> nomodeset acpi=off
[04:30] <GrubChanges> else I freeze after boot
[04:30] <GrubChanges> I know I need to update the relevant file in grub.d, but I'm not sure where in that file to add it
[04:30] <GrubChanges> this is my 10_linux in grub.d: http://pastebin.com/i1vDDFfM
[04:30] <FloodBot1> GrubChanges: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:30] <brjannc> jrogge: Then hit CTRL+H to show hidden directories, scroll down and go into the .libreoffice directory
[04:30] <jrogge> okay, i'm in my home dircetory
[04:31] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: tail -f /var/log/messages gave me No such file or directory.
[04:31] <brjannc> jrogge: On my machine, there's one directory there called '3', i suspect you will probably just have one directory too named some number?
[04:32] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: blerg, I always get confused with all the distros log file idiosyncrasies
[04:32] <mike1312> Hi! Ivegot ubuntu 11.10 on asus k50in. I have no sound in my headphones. in alsamixer headphones are disabled. How can I enable my headphones?
[04:32] <jrogge> wait, it's a file or a folder?
[04:32] <unkr> does anyone tell me how can i understand  PPP protocol in fedora i m stuck in it ???
[04:32] <brjannc> jrogge: you're looking for a folder in your home directory called .libreoffice, and I'd like to know what's inside *that* folder
[04:33] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: Try tail -f /var/log/syslog, sorry
[04:33] <jrogge> yeah, mine is called 3 as well
[04:33] <brjannc> jrogge: K, go into that directory, then into user, then into backup
[04:33] <jrogge> i'm guessing in user then backup?
[04:33] <jrogge> lol i typed that  first
[04:33] <Guest22636> any one now how to get irc to work on droid
[04:33] <brjannc> jrogge: and pray there's something in there :)
[04:33] <Guest22636> its not rooted
[04:33] <jrogge> then you hit ennter before
[04:34] <jrogge> nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
[04:34] <jrogge> oh well
[04:34] <brjannc> empty?
[04:34] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: Okay, I'll try to get it to happen now.
[04:34] <jrogge> yeah
[04:34] <jrogge> thanks anyways brjannc
[04:34] <apwbdjp> Guest2262326, not the best best to ask for android issues
[04:34] <mistform> where is the mozilla backup folder?
[04:34] <mistform> lol I can't find it :S
[04:34] <brjannc> jrogge: bummer. "discard" must also clean up its autosaves, too
[04:34] <jrogge> yeah :(
[04:34] <brjannc> brjannc: what filesystem are you using?
[04:35] <brjannc> jrogge: blerg, sorry, meant to talk to you, not me :\
[04:35] <apwbdjp> Guest22636, try at #android
[04:35] <jrogge> what do you mean?
[04:35] <jrogge> as i said, i'm new to all this stuff
[04:35] <brjannc> jrogge: Ah, okay. Well, there are undeletion utilities available, but they can be kind of hairy to use sometimes
[04:35] <unkr> does anyone tell me how can i understand  PPP protocol in ubuntu i m stuck in it ???
[04:36] <apwbdjp> brb
[04:36] <jrogge> seems like this may end up taking longer than to rewrite the paper lol. so what are they?
[04:36] <Koter> I have a printer with old driver packages that rely on "gs-esp" which apparently isn't in the repos anymore. Where can I get it?
[04:37] <Guest22636> hi
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> Koter: gs-esp appears to have been merged into the main ghostscript package.
[04:37] <Guest22636> thanks
[04:37] <Guest22636> brjan
[04:38] <Koter> tonyyarusso: right- but my drivers' .deb doesn't know that and won't install.
[04:38] <fellayaboy> it seems that the problem was not transmission itslef
[04:38] <Koter> So I need the old one. I think?
[04:38] <jrogge> brjannc, that tools->options->General thing also has save URL's to relative file system and save URLs relative to internet
[04:38] <brjannc> jrogge: It may take longer, yes, since I really don't know much about them -- been a long time since I've used one. My suggestion would be to holler out and see if anyone else knows reliable undelete utils
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> Koter: I'd probably just force the installation of the driver .deb.
[04:39] <zizoo> Hey guys. Could anyone help me with transferring files via bluetooth to my phone? I've been messing with it for a few hours and it's driving me nuts! ._.
[04:39] <hex20dec_> Hey people, I need help with my new server configuration. Can anyone help me?
[04:39] <jrogge> well, does anybody know of "unreliable undelete utilities"?
[04:39] <fellayaboy> unreliable??
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> Koter: First, make you're you're certain you have any other dependencies it has, then try installing with --force-depends.
[04:39] <fellayaboy> u wont something that doesnt work well?
[04:39] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: K. you're looking for anything that has to do with sound, gstreamer, segmentation faults, backtraces, lib<anything>.so, ... basically, any sort of hint as to where to go next
[04:39] <jrogge> lol i was quoting brjannc
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> hex20dec_: Ask your real question and find out.
[04:40] <fellayaboy> oh
[04:40] <brjannc> jrogge: I said reliable, not unreliable ;)
[04:40] <apwbdjp> jrogge, :D He said reliable ^^
[04:40] <jrogge> no, i definitley want something that works
[04:40] <jrogge> whoops
[04:40] <jrogge> i mis read that
[04:40] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: I'm trying to get it to happen. Isn't it typical that when you actually want it to, it doesn't?
[04:40] <Koter> tonyyarusso: okay- I'll try that
[04:40] <fellayaboy> apwbdjp, hey deluge didnt work for me..as a matter of fact ive been getting kicked off the internet more than often with it just now
[04:40] <zizoo> I've been following the directions here ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup ), and now my phone thinks it's paired with my computer, but my computer disagrees....
[04:40] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: Yes. That's called brjannc's law.
[04:40] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: LOL
[04:41] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: (though i'm sure it predates me by hundreds of years :) )
[04:41] <Floydsprite> apwbdjp what whas the channel for the droid
[04:41] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: Sec, I'll close mozilla. BBIAB.
[04:41] <apwbdjp> jrogge, I'd suggest a good coffee, and you rewrite it. Maybe you'll just do it better. It's less risky than trying a hazardous undeletion software.
[04:41] <yoaino3v> Is there any anti-virus software for linux that will update?
[04:41] <apwbdjp> Floydsprite, you mean android?
[04:42] <mubuntu> hello, i am using xchat, somone pls tell me how to filter out in&out room messages
[04:42] <mubuntu> thanks
[04:42] <Floydsprite> yes apwbdjp
[04:42] <jrogge> oh gawd, a good coffee sounds amazing right now. okay, might as well stop wasting time and get to work
[04:42] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, can you ping your router while your connexion is working, and then throw in the torrent client?
[04:42]  * brjannc nods solemnly at apwbdjp 
[04:42] <jrogge> oh hey, is there like some kind of honor system or something i can bump you guys up on?
[04:42] <fellayaboy> i didnt ping it but i doubt it would work
[04:42] <dr_willis> yoaino3v:  i use clamav normally. there are  others
[04:42] <fellayaboy> ooh hold on
[04:43] <jrogge> you guys were pretty helpful even though it didn't work
[04:43] <Floydsprite> lol
[04:43] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, if the router stops responding, then it's in the computer, if it still does, then it's bandwidth or ISP stories.
[04:43] <brjannc> jrogge: I am all about being uselessly helpful.
[04:43] <jrogge> lol, so i'm guessing there *isn't* one?
[04:43] <apwbdjp> Floydsprite, simplye #android
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> jrogge: correct
[04:43] <fellayaboy> cant be isp or bandwidth..like i said i used windows 7 with utorrent and it downloads fast and at huge rates...2MB a second sometimes
[04:43] <zizoo> Any help with getting my phone to transfer files via bluetooth?
[04:43] <jrogge> darn
[04:44] <fellayaboy> and it works without ever messing up
[04:44] <jrogge> well, i better get to work
[04:44] <jrogge> bye guys, thanks for your time
[04:44] <Floydsprite> tryed say i got to id service
[04:44] <tonyyarusso> zizoo: I would, if I hadn't failed at the same thing when I tried ;)
[04:44] <fellayaboy> ima ping my router and leave it pinging
[04:44] <dr_willis> fellayaboy: try the utorrent for linux yet?
[04:44] <fellayaboy> and then turn on the torrent client to see what happens
[04:44] <fellayaboy> no i havent
[04:45] <zizoo> Haha, thanks anyways, tonyyarusso. I'm just getting frustrated. I'll give it another go now I guess and come back if I have no luck.
[04:45] <hex20dec_> Well, I'm just trying to make my server work as it should, or more like the way my previous shared server used to work. After installing Apache2, PHP, mySQL and webmin, everything worked fine except from my sendmail, I've been messing around with it for a month now reading all sorts of not interesting stuff just to get it to work right. I haven't setup sendmail configuration at all, so I need to do that and I also need to setup my
[04:45] <fellayaboy> holy moly its out!!!
[04:45] <tazthespaz> Please help me I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and I just changed my password but now it seems that it was changed to some other password that appears to be five digits long
[04:45] <fellayaboy> finally utorrent on linux brb
[04:45] <zizoo> Though... should it make a big difference that I am using a dongle, or what brand it is?
[04:45] <dr_willis> it could be utorrent us encrypting so the isp is not noticeing it
[04:45] <apwbdjp> fellayaboy, I think it's a server edition, command line, nope?
[04:45] <Floydsprite> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[04:45] <hex20dec_> I need someone to actually help me out with this whole situation.
[04:46] <fellayaboy> yeah it says server
[04:46] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  been iut for ages. 32 bit only last checkedi
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> hex20dec_: Most Ubuntu users use Postfix for their MTA rather than Sendmail - you'll find more documentation and more people who can help if you give that a whirl.  (It's easier too, IMO)
[04:46] <Floydsprite> APWBDJP Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[04:46] <fellayaboy> aww so no client
[04:46] <fellayaboy> got my hopes all up for nothing
[04:46] <tazthespaz> Please help me I am using Ubuntu 11.10 and I just changed my password but now it seems that it was changed to some other password that appears to be five digits long
[04:46] <brjannc> tonyyarusso: I think it's an undeniable fact that postfix is easier than sendmail ;)
[04:46] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  it has a web unterface
[04:46] <apwbdjp> Floydsprite, then identify with service.
[04:47] <unkr> can anyone tell me where do i get PPP concept ??
[04:47] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  so theres no nwed for a client
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> hex20dec_: Also, we usually discourage webmin, so guides will be writting with command line configuration in mind.
[04:47] <mike1312> My headphones are disabled in alsamixer by default. How to enable them?
[04:47] <Floydsprite> mk
[04:47] <Floydsprite> lol
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> mike1312: Select them and press "m"?
[04:48] <yoaino3v> The mirror will not download for clamav
[04:48] <fellayaboy> so i can use it to download torrent but via a web interfae
[04:48] <Stanley00> !pass | tazthespaz
[04:49] <mistform> could someone assist me in getting all of my FF bookmarks from my Win partition to Ubuntu?
[04:49] <dr_willis> fellayaboy: yes. or do like i do.. and use a remote app on your phone to manage it all.
[04:49] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: rehi
[04:49] <Floydsprite> so i am 24 and a IT guy for my town one of my buddys told me about irc 3 days ago so i dont know how it all works i dont know what Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services means
[04:50] <mike1312> tonyyarusso:  ive tried but it just mutes. My hp are not muted they are disabled
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> !register | Floydsprite
[04:50] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: Thanks :) So I can't get it to do it again. Grumblegrumble. I bet it'll wait to do it again when I'm in class.
[04:50] <fellayaboy> oh wow so u could use ur android to add and delete torrents to it?
[04:50] <Yerushalmi> brjannc: Thanks for trying, anyways :)
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> mike1312: huh, ok.  Driver issue at all?
[04:50] <Koter> tonyyarusso: thanks.. driver.. appears... to be installed. I'm running system-config-printer now...
[04:50] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  works with other torrent progs also.
[04:51] <Tiktalik> !wireless
[04:51] <Goollash> ello
[04:51] <fellayaboy> awesome..too tired to configure it now will work with it tomroor...didnt have an .sh just a zip so  im confused
[04:51] <brjannc> Yerushalmi: no problem. one thing you can do is, next time it happens, just write down the exact time it happens, and come back here armed with that. Then I or someone else can help you look through your logs
[04:51] <apwbdjp> mistform, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows/TransferringFilesAndSettings
[04:51] <mike1312> tonyyarusso: im not sure
[04:52] <apwbdjp> mistform, that'll help you get them from the windows side, it's just about the same, but with "import" instead of export, on ubuntu.
[04:52] <fellayaboy> well it had a *server but idk too tired thanks for telling me its out
[04:52] <mike1312> tonyyarusso: anyway thanks
[04:52] <fellayaboy> i have to see this
[04:52] <mistform> apwbdjp, that won't help me.
[04:53] <apwbdjp> mistform, why's that? can't boot back into windows?
[04:53] <Nichola> okay, I am checking my disk...
[04:53] <Floydsprite> K see if you guys can help with problem with droid its asking what Defalt channels i put #ubuntu then it ask IDENT not sure what to put there then it ask what IRC server and i put asimov.freenode.net then it ask Port i put 6667 did i do it all right or what and the app is called firc from the droid market
[04:54] <mistform> apwbdjp, I am able to boot back into windows. All I want is to move my FF bookmarks from my C drive (I can see it right now) by copying the file to my home folder and moving to proper directory via terminal.
[04:54] <mistform> apwbdjp, but I don't know what file I need, I can't find the .json it's looking for even in appdata and Firefox won't recognize anything in import
[04:54] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:  make up a name. or blank
[04:55] <brjannc> apwbdjp: I tried that once and royally hosed my linux firefox -- there was something fundamentally non-portable about just copying the data over
[04:55] <dr_willis> Floydsprite: i tend to use andchat on my android
[04:55] <Floydsprite> ok is everything else right Dr.
[04:55] <brjannc> apwbdjp: (granted, that's just anecdotal)
[04:55] <dr_willis> Floydsprite: try it and see
[04:56] <Floydsprite> mk one sec
[04:56] <apwbdjp> brjannc, you mean you tried the tutorial I've sent? Exporting the datas to a file WITH firefox windows, and then importing them back with firefox ubuntu?
[04:56] <brjannc> apwbdjp: ack, sorry. those were meant for mistform :\
[04:57] <brjannc> apwbdjp, mistform: was trying to explain that your method was a good one, and the copy-the-file method didn't work well for me.
[04:57] <dr_willis> exporting bookmarks and importing works for me in the past. fir firefox
[04:57] <apwbdjp> mistform, hear that mistform? Moving files will probably result in bad things.
[04:57] <mistform> lol
[04:57] <apwbdjp> mistform, boot into windows, export your files, import them back from ubuntu. Easy.
[04:58] <apwbdjp> Nichola, sorry I missed you earlier, is it still checking?
[04:58] <dr_willis> there are booomark sync extensions out there
[04:58] <Nichola> apwbdjp: If I get to a purple screen after the check media test is that a good sign?the
[04:58] <Koter> tonyyarusso: annnd... now it says the printer is "not connected".
[04:58] <apwbdjp> dr_willis, he's on the same machine, just trying to move them from windows to ubuntu.
[04:58] <mistform> apwbdjp, brjannc, that's why I thought firefox would be easy to just copy/paste a backup file.
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> Koter: reboot the printer and wait a few maybe?
[04:59] <Floydsprite> Dr. it says im in here but im typed hello and my message didnt show up in this chat
[04:59] <apwbdjp> Nichola, for how long now?
[04:59] <dr_willis> apwbdjp:  sync extensions will still work B-)
[04:59] <Goollash> you're good
[04:59] <Nichola> the purple screen has been up for about 1 min...
[04:59] <mubuntu> hello, how do i filter out all the in&out room messages? thansk
[04:59] <silver_star_iri> Hello , i get this error in my cron.log , touch: cannot touch `/tmp/.getmail_lock': No space left on device . why ? how i can solve it
[05:00] <mubuntu> it's clogging my screen ..xchat here
[05:00] <brjannc> mistform: I thought the same thing, but it jacked my entire profile on linux when I copied my windows bookmarks stuff in manually. this was firefox 2, but once bitten, twice shy :)
[05:00] <Floydsprite> is fIrc dif then irc
[05:00] <Koter> tonyyarusso: well- other people in the office are able to print right now. Just not me
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> mubuntu: It varies a bit by client, but for mine I think it's /ignore #ubuntu JOINS,PARTS,QUITS
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Koter: ah, hrm.
[05:00] <qin> silver_star_iri: Your /tmp is full
[05:00] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:  try msging yourself or make your own channel
[05:00] <apwbdjp> dr_willis, they surely will.. actually you're very right, it's more practical.
[05:00] <mubuntu> tony: i am using xchat ..thx
[05:00] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[05:01] <dr_willis> apwbdjp: main reason i switched to chrome. :-)
[05:01] <Floydsprite> it says 0 ppl in user list
[05:01] <Floydsprite> what irc do you have for your droid
[05:01] <apwbdjp> Nichola, I'm guessing 2 minuts now. It's not much of a good sign..
[05:01] <kamilnadeem> I am running the default air theme , the pannel below is looking wierd as it should be transperent .?
[05:01] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:   i use andchat
[05:01] <kamilnadeem> here  http://i.imgur.com/75q4b.jpg
[05:02] <unkr> can anyone tell me how to setup ppp devices in ubuntu via command line ?????
[05:02] <apwbdjp> dr_willis, I love chrome, if only it had a vimperator extention.. (it has things like it, a little, but still)
[05:02] <kamilnadeem> Note I am running Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3
[05:02] <Nichola> yeah, kinda thinking that too.
[05:02] <apwbdjp> Nichola, can you get another usb drive soon, to test with?
[05:03] <Nichola> okay, pressed F2 and it says /init? line 7: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found
[05:03] <brjannc> apwbdjp: ye gods, vimperator scares the bejesus out of me. :)
[05:03] <tonyyarusso> unkr: You mean for dial-up Internet access?  wvdial
[05:03] <Nichola> bleh. I don't know....
[05:03] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:  try /join #irctest in both clients
[05:03] <Nichola> ^intit:
[05:04] <apwbdjp> Nichola, duh? It's been trying to read from cdrom while it's from a USB drive.. Guys does the installer consider a usb drive as /dev/sr0?
[05:05] <mistform> brjannc, I am pretty sure I have FF3 on both. I also have nightly on Windows.
[05:05] <silver_star_iri> qin: i think so , but how i can emty it and why is full i have more than 400 gig free
[05:07] <floydsprite1> thanks dr. im useing andchat
[05:07] <Floydsprite> thanks dr.
[05:08] <apwbdjp> Nichola, I believe the USB install has troubles with your computer..  you using because it doesn't have a CD drive? or does it have one but you have no other drive to burn a disk?
[05:09] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:  i use znc on my ubuntu box and irc to that. it keeps me allways connected here. so i dont need to appear here under 2+ nicks
[05:09] <Nichola> okay, just figured something out. I can, and just did burn the minimal install CD to a CD. I couldn't/can't burn a DVD, which is what I have to use for the bigger file...
[05:09] <unkr> tonnyyarusso: yaa
[05:10] <apwbdjp> Nichola, I think all ubuntu installers can hold on a CD..
[05:10] <Nichola> so, I have the minimal install CD now and am trying it.
[05:10] <apwbdjp> Nichola, anyway, try with the CD now
[05:10] <dr_willis> Nichola:  what bigger file
[05:11] <Nichola> okay, I am at a flashing prompt, hit enter?
[05:11] <dr_willis> ive heard the next release willbe over 700 mb.. no more cd limit.
[05:11] <apwbdjp> cli then enter
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> unkr: You'll probably want to start with this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto  Usually the hard part is getting drivers working if you have a "soft" modem.  After that configuring is pretty easy.
[05:11] <Floydsprite> well ubuntu needs all three legs to run on a hard drive and windows only needs 1 so when my harddrive crashed i had to switch to windows tell i get the new one
[05:11] <Nichola> got it, it is going............
[05:12] <Floydsprite> dr.
[05:12] <unkr> tonnyarusso: ok let me try
[05:12] <mistform> apwbdjp, brjannc, I got it. Someone in #firefox helped me out. moving places.sqlite from win user to ~/.mozilla/firefox
[05:12] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:   huh?  legs?
[05:13] <Nichola> okay, I am at the choose language screen, english is highlighted red, so do I just hit enter?
[05:13] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:  my whold linux setup is on a 32mb flash drive. ;)
[05:13] <brjannc> mistform: no explosions yet?
[05:13] <Floydsprite> lol metaphors dr.
[05:13] <apwbdjp> Nichola, yep
[05:13] <Floydsprite> wow
[05:13] <mistform> brjannc, there is a slight scent of incendiaries...
[05:13] <mistform> wait, I guess it's just the friction in the room ^_^
[05:13] <Nichola> no response yet...
[05:14] <silver_star_iri> how i can allocate more space to tmp or how i can remove it safely ?
[05:14] <apwbdjp> mistform, so it's working fine?
[05:14] <dr_willis> Floydsprite: 32gb. ;)
[05:14] <Nichola> The tab key doesn't work, either....
[05:14] <brjannc> mistform: hehe :) well, good to know that's an option now
[05:14] <Floydsprite> oh ok thats much better lol
[05:14] <apwbdjp> Nichola, you hear the cd drive working?
[05:14] <r4y> How do I know if my motherboard has s.m.a.r.t.? so I know if I should install smartmontools.
[05:14] <mistform> apwbdjp, I moved the file. Realized I had firefox open so I closed it. Reopen firefox and viola. All bookmarks. all working.
[05:15] <Nichola> not right now...
[05:15] <dr_willis> Floydsprite:  done it with 4gb also
[05:15] <pnorman> r4y: Any modern SATA drive should have SMART support
[05:15] <apwbdjp> wth..
[05:15] <pnorman> If you're using hardware raid or fake hardware raid SMART might be tougher to get to, but it works fine with software raid
[05:16] <apwbdjp> mistform, good for you. I believe the import/export option has been designed to be more version-portable and stuffs. Thanks for letting me know!
[05:16] <r4y> I am still knew to all this
[05:16] <r4y> Sata drive. I thought my hard drive is a Pata drive
[05:16] <pnorman> r4y: How old is your motherboard?
[05:16] <apwbdjp> Nichola, I really don't see why it would freeze right now..
[05:16] <brjannc> r4y: there shouldn't be any danger in installing smartmontools and running smartctl -a /dev/sda (or whatever) to see if your drive supports it
[05:17] <apwbdjp> Nichola, when's last time a system was working on this machine?
[05:17] <Nichola> well, it has windows 7 on it...
[05:17] <r4y> How modern is modern defined here?
[05:17] <silver_star_iri> how i can allocate more space to tmp or how i can remove it safely ?
[05:17] <pnorman> r4y: Ya, I'd just try it - that's easiest.
[05:17] <r4y> Should I say what my motherboard is?
[05:17] <apwbdjp> silver_star_iri, you mean the /tmp folder?
[05:18] <silver_star_iri> y
[05:18] <apwbdjp> silver_star_iri, as install, did you give it a separate partition?
[05:18] <silver_star_iri> cron.log tell it is full
[05:18] <dr_willis> silver_star_iri:  you could look and clean out old stuff in /tmp
[05:18] <Nichola> I just purchased this laptop used and since the windows is not activated, I wanted to put ubuntu on it.
[05:18] <r4y> mach speed MK8-939A
[05:18] <silver_star_iri> apwbdjp: no
[05:18] <apwbdjp> silver_star_iri, if not, then it has as much space as you have left in your root partition.
[05:19] <dr_willis> Nichola:  should have a sticker# on it somewhere. ;)
[05:19] <Nichola> but I can get online or whatever from it
[05:19] <silver_star_iri> apwbdjp: maybe yes , how i can find out
[05:19] <Nichola> ya, should but doesn't...
[05:19] <r4y> OK, from what you have said, then I should consider installing smartmontools I guess
[05:19] <dr_willis> Nichola:  pirates ;) heh..
[05:20] <r4y> Sorry for interrupting you all and thank you for the help
[05:20] <pnorman> r4y: looks like it has SATA ports as well as IDE ports. I'd just go ahead install smartmontools and tryit out.
[05:20] <Nichola> yup. So, I was just planning to go clean with the system into Linux
[05:20] <dr_willis> Nichola:  you mean    you cant get online?
[05:20] <brjannc> r4y: no worries, good luck :)
[05:20] <apwbdjp> Nichola, he means he can, with Windows 7, means the machine is perfectly healthy
[05:20] <apwbdjp> talking to dr_willis. sorry.
[05:20]  * dr_willis missed the actual problrm then
[05:21] <apwbdjp> I have to leave, so I'll explain you quick before
[05:21] <pnorman> SATA is what modern consumer hard drives use to communicate. Smaller cables, higher transfer speeds. If you're looking to buy a drive it's a lot easier to find a SATA one than an old IDE one
[05:21] <zivester> So I have a new ubuntu server with 16gb of RAM... I'm never going to use more then ~8 gigs at a time... anything I can do with that remaining ~8 gigs to make my system faster?
[05:21] <pnorman> zivester: I believe it'll automatically make use of it for caching
[05:21] <Resistance> zivester:  what pnorman said  is correct.
[05:21] <dr_willis> i agree with pnorman .. zivester  let linux handle it
[05:21] <apwbdjp> dr_willis, Nichola bought a new machine with Win7 on it, fully working. he's trying to install Ubuntu on it, but whatever way he tried (USB Drive, Minimal CD on USB drive, Minimal CD on actual CD), the installer hangs at the first couple of steps.
[05:22] <zivester> I was thinking along the lines of putting /tmp into it or something... dunno if that applies to other applications
[05:22] <pnorman> zivester: if you're serving files (e.g. movies, music) then it won't get much out of it. if you're running a database or something, you can tune your DB
[05:23]  * pnorman ran out of ram this morning with 16GB
[05:23] <r4y> I think it is from 2006
[05:23] <brjannc> zivester: nah, don't bother, it's usually not worth it. plus, apps that know they need fast scratch space can use /dev/shm instead, which is basically a ramdisk
[05:23] <apwbdjp> Nichola, you'll excuse me but I really need to sleep, it's 5AM here and I've got an early train to catch tomorrow.
[05:23] <dr_willis> Nichola:  one possible work around. do a full normal install from cd, to a flash drive (like a 8 gb one) on a diggerent machine, boot that on the broblem box.  if it works.. dd the usb image to the hd.  and then use gparted to resize.    did that a few weeks ago.
[05:24] <mah454> How can change gdm3 background without change desktop wallpaper ?
[05:24] <zivester> okay fine, i guess ill just spin up some extra VM's for kicks... all that memory will never be put to use!
[05:24] <apwbdjp> dr_willis, I'm in love with Linux for this kind of things.. I'd like to try this up with Windows ^^
[05:24] <pnorman> zivester: You'd be surprised - it will use it all for caching stuff over time
[05:24] <dr_willis> it will be used as cache..
[05:25] <brjannc> zivester: it *will* be! the linux kernel is very aggressive about using spare RAM for disk buffers.
[05:25] <dr_willis> bbl  got a job.
[05:25] <apwbdjp> Good night everyone, you have been awesome. Keep rocking.
[05:25] <Nichola> apwbdjp- thank you for your help, I really appreciate it.
[05:25] <zivester> yah its all orange right now with `htop` i think that means its cached
[05:25] <r4y> Wow, that was crazy. There was no text for a while then all the text that I didn't see appeared
[05:25] <brjannc> apwbdjp: night!
[05:25] <mistform> apwbdjp, I thought the Import/export would allow me browse the separate partition and find the correct file. Instead it auto searched and said "nothing" or going to Organize Bookmarks > Import/Backup only looks for .json files.
[05:25] <mah454> apwbdjp, heh ... I live in day ... ! :D
[05:25] <r4y> I read it all
[05:25] <r4y> thank you for the help
[05:26] <mistform> apwbdjp, the file I needed (thanks to Peng in #firefox) was places.sqlite
[05:26] <zivester> yeep, Mem:         16066      15908        157          0         28      14572 ... 14.5 gigs of cache! geez
[05:26] <brjannc> zivester: it's almost unheard of for memory to be "free".
[05:26] <r4y> Nichola: You said: there shouldn't be any danger in installing smartmontools and running smartctl -a /dev/sda (or whatever) to see if your drive supports it.
[05:26] <r4y> Thank you I will try it out
[05:27] <r4y> bye
[05:27] <r4y> I am on a live cd of Ubuntu
[05:27] <r4y> see ya
[05:28] <pnorman> zivester: If you run a logger (like munin) you'll see all the free memory turn into cache as you run stuff. takes about a day of light use for the unused to disappear for me
[05:28] <zizoo> Anyone know how to make bluez forget a bluetooth pairing? :/
[05:29] <zivester> kool ill have to check that out, tx
[05:30] <zizoo> 'Cause I have a screwed up BT pairing to my phone that doesn't work and I can't get rid of it.
[05:30] <zizoo> But I need to to run bluez-simple-agent again.
[05:35] <bjrohan> Hello all. I have a dual boot system. Is there a gui app that will allow me to do regular backup/image of both my Windows and Linux partitions and store on a USB drive attached to another networked computer?
[05:35] <zivester> is there something wrong with the most recent nvidia drivers?   I swear my machine was running fine a couple days ago before I updated... now when I run `glxgears` it runs at 10FPS and my X basically comes to a halt
[05:36] <brjannc> bjrohan: are you looking for something to do *live* backups, or would rebooting into a livecd environment be okay?
[05:36] <luthfi> my laptop was freezed when I plugout an usb of external harddisk
[05:37] <luthfi> i'm using 11.10
[05:37] <bjrohan> brjannc I would prefer *live* backups
[05:38] <brjannc> bjrohan: okay, I won't be much help, then. I do offline backups with Redo: http://redobackup.org/
[05:38] <brjannc> bjrohan: but I don't know much about the online backup options
[05:39] <bjrohan> brjannc, thanks I will take a look. live backups in the middle of the night that are regularly scheduled, so I don't have to remember to do them myself :-)
[05:39] <zizoo> Bleh, fixed it up. Installed Blueman Bluetooth Manager, and it made things much easier.
[05:39] <pnorman> bjrohan: I was looking into live backups not too long ago - let me see if anything I found is appropriate
[05:40] <bjrohan> In windows I was using Acronis to back-up/image, worked well as it automagically did it every week early Sunday morning, looking to do the same in Ubuntu that would backup all partitions windows and Linux
[05:40] <brjannc> bjrohan: I understand :) You could just set up a network share, and then use something like backintime
[05:40] <jci> join #drupal-support
[05:41] <zivester> switching to nvidia post-release updates seemed to fix my card issues... [Recommended] may just be buggy with my card
[05:41] <brjannc> bjrohan: the downside to backintime though is that you don't have the shadow-copy feature that windows live backup utils use (i.e., basically taking a snapshot of the disk)
[05:41] <pnorman> bjrohan: Oh, adding a windows partition and you want a GUI. My requirement was no GUI. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem#wiki_documented_utilities might help.
[05:42] <bjrohan> thanks pnorman
[05:43] <pnorman> fwiw, I was leaning towards duplicity, but wasn't sure. i have to back up a RAID array onto smaller drives
[05:43] <brjannc> pnorman: duplicity is the rsync on steroids one, right?
[05:44] <jbrks> bjrohan, i'm using mdadm software raid.. mdadm software raid setup is not hard with the debian setup.. it takes homework though to know how mdadm works.. i'm sure mdadm works well under ubuntu as well
[05:44] <pnorman> brjannc: haven't done enough reading on it. what I really need is the appropriate scripts. rsync meets all my needs, but I don't have the ability to write the scripts to call it to do the backups/restores and keep track of everything
[05:44] <brjannc> bjrohan: (backintime is basically an rsync gui, but it adds apple time machine-like features)
[05:44] <pnorman> I use mdadm on my server, it works *very* well
[05:45] <jbrks> pnorman, you have that server running 24/7? one thing i'd like is powersaving.. i'm working on a sid problem
[05:45] <brjannc> pnorman: hey, maybe backintime would work for you, too -- i think it has a command-line version :)
[05:45] <pnorman> jbrks: Yes. It only draws about 100W
[05:45] <silver_star_iri> how i can find out my tmp folder is partion or not ?
[05:46] <jbrks> silver_star_iri, is that a real problem?
[05:46] <bjrohan> Ahh, will it also backup NTFS partitions so they can be reinstalled in event of either a hard drive crash, or me seriously messing someting up?
[05:47] <jbrks> bjrohan, software raid is meant for 1 Operating system on the machine.
[05:47] <pnorman> jbrks: That's 100 W at the outlet, after the UPS. The power supply is woefully excessive (600W) and inefficient at these ranges, so it could be using as little as 50-75W
[05:47] <jbrks> bjrohan, for multi-Oses you need "real" Raid. And most motherboards are "fake" raid..
[05:47] <shallow> hi, i have a friend installing gnome shell on ubuntu 11.10 -- i had him install it and gnome-session and when he logs into the "GNOME" session, it's gnome 2.. no other session is gnome shell.. can someone help me out?
[05:47] <pnorman> jbrks: it is possible to use fakeraid with both linux and ubuntu - but I bet it's a pain
[05:47] <brjannc> bjrohan: i doubt it could be trusted for bare-metal recovery
[05:47] <bjrohan> jbrks huh? BTW I am about 3 weeks into using Ubuntu :-)
[05:48] <REK_007> why does my proccy go upto 39x in ubuntu when its set to 40x in BIOS
[05:48] <REK_007> and it goes upto 40x on windows even
[05:49] <jbrks> pnorman, they say fakeraid, as far as i think i know, when software raid gets assisted with fakeraid hardware..
[05:49] <jbrks> pnorman, i guess it's simply called "software raid" when no assisted fakeraid hardware is used
[05:49] <silver_star_iri> jbrks: touch: cannot touch `/tmp/.getmail_lock': No space left on device
[05:49] <pnorman> jbrks: fakeraid is the common term for RAID "controllers" like on most motherboards that offload all the work to the CPU
[05:49] <yoaino3v> Can you update the engine in clamav ?? I can't seem to do it.
[05:49] <jbrks> pnorman, i have links if you want extra resource to read.
[05:49] <jbrks> pnorman, i spent a couple of days studying this..
[05:49] <silver_star_iri> jbrks: can i remove /tmp folder !?
[05:49] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: ack no
[05:50] <pnorman> jbrks: I don't want to run fakeraid - it wouldn't work across multiple controllers anyways
[05:50] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: type   df -h    in a terminal window
[05:50] <jbrks> pnorman, fakeraid is "raid" only if you use the fakeraid hardware..
[05:50] <jbrks> pnorman, you don't need to use fakeraid if you want to use 100% software raid..
[05:50] <pnorman> I'm quite happy with my md setup.
[05:51] <silver_star_iri> brjannc: dev /md2 1.9G 621M 1.2G 35% /tmp
[05:51]  * yoaino3v hello?
[05:51] <pnorman> 300+ MB/s, 1.4-1.9k iops
[05:51] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: then yes, you have /tmp on its own partition, but it's certainly not full
[05:52] <silver_star_iri> brjannc: so why i get this cron.log error ?!
[05:52] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: that's a good question! unfortunately i don't know the answer :)
[05:52] <jbrks> pnorman, the limitation of software raid or "fakeraid" in any OS is bad for dual-boot.. because metadata can be written outside one Oses zone..
[05:53] <silver_star_iri> silver_star_iri: it is server and i use crontab for backup mysql , and mysql file is more than free space (400 mb)
[05:53] <silver_star_iri> brjannc: i feel it is an answer
[05:53] <kasansweat> okay -- does anyone know a clever way (or a dumb way, hey) to see only the packages you've installed AFTER first installation?
[05:53] <jbrks> pnorman, hence hardware raid overcomes this worry.. and anything less than hardware raid means to use only 1 Os.
[05:53] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: oh, that's possible -- so you think you're filling up /tmp with your mysql backup, and then getting the touch error afterward?
[05:54] <silver_star_iri> brjannc: i think so , how i can allocate more space to tmp partion
[05:54] <jbrks> (and i mean "real" hardware raid.. not BS hardwareraid)
[05:54] <silver_star_iri> brjannc: or can i empty it ?!
[05:54] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: it's not terribly easy to reallocate more space, especially since it looks like you're using mdraid
[05:54] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: /tmp should be getting wiped every time you reboot
[05:55] <pnorman> jbrks: It *is* possible to use on-motherboard "hardware" raid and dual boot, but it's not easy
[05:55] <silver_star_iri> brjannc: so reboot the server !?
[05:55] <jbrks> pnorman, i'm not saying it's impossible at all. You have to deal/experiment to make sure your raids from both OS bootups don't kill off each other..
[05:56] <jbrks> pnorman, it's risky and not worth the effort imho.. simply go real hardware raid..
[05:56] <pnorman> jbrks: which starts at $500 or so. if I were in that situation I'd likely not use RAID and go with each OS on its own HD
[05:56] <brjannc> silver_star_iri: if that's an option, yes. then   df -h   again and check that it's getting wiped properly. if not, come back and we can try and address that. ultimately, though, i think you need to modify your mysql backup script to avoid filling up /tmp :)
[05:57] <unkr> where i can get tutorials about ldap or NIS ???
[05:58] <jbrks> silver_star_iri, i used to do that.. but i saw no use after i found out about firefox's own ram-only caching.. (tmpfs << type of filesystem works like a ramdisk.. /tmp can be mounted as a tmpfs, "tmpfs" is a filesystem type that lives in ram)
[06:00] <dimas_> is anything i need to know in orden to upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 and not getting a error after uploading the packages?
[06:02] <Ycarene> What am I doing wrong, I type "sudo service samba restart" and it says "samba: unrecognized service"
[06:02] <unkr> Ycarene: does it install ??
[06:02] <Ycarene> It's running now
[06:02] <Ycarene> guess it was smbd, not samba
[06:03] <unkr> Ycarene: check services --status-all | grep samba
[06:03] <unkr> Ycarene: ya
[06:04] <jbrks> pnorman, i'm thinking of getting this.. i'd like to have hardware raid for a particular machine back here.. http://store.lsi.com/store.cfm/3ware_Controllers/SATA_II_PCI_Express_with_RAID_6/9650SE-2LP what you think? not 500$ :p
[06:06] <pnorman> jbrks: Looks like it only supports two disks. Might do more with a port multiplier but then you have to buy that as well
[06:06] <PerfM> ip change, swizzzzzzle
[06:07] <silver_star_iri> jbrks: now it is 2% in use
[06:07] <r4y> I was trying smarttools and I am confused
[06:07] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/736951/
[06:08] <bwzhou> exit
[06:08] <r4y> I mean, it's working then, right?
[06:08] <pnorman> r4y: the tests take time to complete. try sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[06:08] <pnorman> Ya, it's working.
[06:08] <r4y> OK, I need to start over then
[06:08] <jbrks> r4y, maybe it's looking for a loaded module
[06:09] <r4y> because I did this:
[06:09] <jbrks> pnorman, y.. i'm looking for a basic raid1 hardware.. looks like lsi/3war is the best support for win/mac/linux..
[06:09] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/736953/
[06:09] <r4y> Anyways
[06:10] <pnorman> jbrks: ah. I use RAID1 in my desktop and on my server for /boot
[06:10] <brjannc> r4y: the long tests run offline, while the disk isn't busy doing anything (see the line saying it'll take about 70 minutes)
[06:10] <r4y> Thank you. I am just making sure I am doing this right.
[06:10] <brjannc> r4y: but since it didn't complain about running the test in the first place, your drive supports SMART.
[06:10] <jbrks> pnorman, yah.. was reading up about that.. installed debian straight off 6.03 and it doesn't need /boot :).. must be the new grub2 features kicking in
[06:11] <brjannc> r4y: smartctl -a /dev/sda will print out all the smart parameters for the drive as they are right now
[06:11] <pnorman> jbrks: can't boot off of RAID10
[06:11] <r4y> Cool. I went into bios to look for smart and I couldn't find it
[06:11] <r4y> yes I hit control-F1
[06:11] <PerfM> r4y, cool my name is r4y too and that happened to mee too!
[06:11] <jbrks> pnorman, i don't know extensively of grub2's features.. but i sure can do raid1 without issue.. for anything higher i have no clue..
[06:12] <jbrks> pnorman, i'm pretty new to raid.. as i was saying i did some research for couple of days..
[06:12] <r4y> I remember not being able to find smart in bios before after a long time of searching everything in bios I could stand looking at
[06:12] <jbrks> pnorman, but have known about it for quite some time.. only recently i started performing raid..
[06:12] <pnorman> jbrks: With RAID1 you can use it with only one drive
[06:12] <pnorman> r4y: SMART isn't really a motherboard or BIOS related thing, it's the drives
[06:12] <jbrks> pnorman, well raid1 takes 2 drives.. but capacity is 50% ..
[06:12] <PerfM> omg, bff Logan_
[06:13] <jbrks> pnorman, which is good enough for beginner level like me
[06:13] <PerfM> You live here tooo?
[06:13] <r4y> OK, thank you for clearing that up for me
[06:13] <Logan_> !offtopic | PerfM
[06:13] <pnorman> jbrks: but it's possible to boot if only one disk is working
[06:13] <PerfM> r4y, anytime, glad to help
[06:13] <PerfM> Logan_, I can read, thanks
[06:13] <Logan_> np
[06:13] <jbrks> pnorman, ya i already tested it..
[06:13] <PerfM> just making small talk
[06:13] <jbrks> pnorman, i did a poweroutage.. found out how to resync and fix the partition swap space..
[06:13] <r4y> I had always thought it was a motherboard thing for some reason. I need to write this kind of info down
[06:13] <jbrks> pnorman, definitely you always need a ups for raid..
[06:14] <jbrks> pnorman, syncing takes *long (software raid)
[06:14] <r4y> My middle name is ray
[06:14] <PerfM> mine too!
[06:14] <PerfM> except with the 4 in it
[06:14] <PerfM> I am an original
[06:14] <pnorman> jbrks: I think the problem with /boot and RAID levels other than 1 is that the motherboard can't get the information needed to boot since it's scattered across drives
[06:14] <pnorman> jbrks: It only takes 2-4 hours on my 6x 1TB drive RAID10
[06:15] <jbrks> pnorman, no, it's grub2.. they're always improving it..
[06:15] <r4y> LOL, I've never seen ray spelled that way. There was someone named ray on here so someone here suggested I register r4y
[06:15] <r4y> right now I am not registered though
[06:15] <r4y> I could used my registered r4y name if I wanted to
[06:16] <dr_willis> im waiting for grub3 to be its own os. :-)
[06:16] <jbrks> pnorman, also part of what you're saying is true.. the device chain can be too long for grub2 to do all the sniffing on its own
[06:16] <PerfM> maybe I will register r4y so you cannot
[06:16] <pnorman> jbrks: I'm using grub2 too. I have it set up so that if any of the drives fails on bootup it will use the /boot from the next
[06:16] <PerfM> r4y rythmes with h4y
[06:16] <PerfM> and l4y
[06:16] <r4y> O no what will I do, lol
[06:16] <bazhang> PerfM, thats enough
[06:16] <enchilado> bazhang: :(
[06:16] <pangolin> PerfM: Please keep the chit chat in the offtopic channel.
[06:16] <PerfM> bazhang, just handing out some lol's for the road
[06:17] <enchilado> :o
[06:17] <PerfM> All of that was just worth a kick?
[06:17] <PerfM> c'mon
[06:17] <bazhang> PerfM, last warning
[06:17] <r4y> Sorry, I will not be here for long. But I've said that before and stayed even longer
[06:17] <enchilado> PerfM: that was a remove, not a kick
[06:18] <PerfM> bazhang, I better get my good material this time then
[06:18] <jbrks> pnorman, you think that's a good buy?
[06:18] <jbrks> pnorman, lsi looks very good.. someone i spoke to told me they're good
[06:18] <pnorman> jbrks: not for me - I need more than 4 drives
[06:18] <darkings> hi
[06:19] <jbrks> pnorman, well for server, definitely i wouldn't do raid1 that's for sure.. definitely higher.. like raid10 or something else..
[06:19] <pnorman> jbrks: But that card does look good if you just need a two drive RAID. I expect it'd work with ubuntu
[06:19] <jbrks> pnorman, but you know.. I use ups.. and if power goes out.. i can get a powerout signal to initiate a shutdown for my machine.. so i think i'm pretty safe
[06:20] <pnorman> jbrks: it's fairly common on servers to have the OS on a RAID1 and your data on a RAID10. RAID1 is the safest of course
[06:20] <jbrks> pnorman, its' hardware raid..
[06:20] <pnorman> jbrks: you have to be able to manage it still - you don't want to be going into the bios on startup to do everything
[06:20] <jbrks> pnorman, so if i build my raid on bios bootup.. any OS below should only see 1 drive.. no need to worry about OS's using softwareraid or fakeraid ..
[06:21] <theorem> wohoo
[06:21] <dragonlive> cool
[06:21] <jbrks> pnorman, that's the thing.. lsi makes really great driver to peruse the status or set a managing hooks for windows and linux.. and with a webfront interface as well..
[06:21] <jbrks> ,/from windows and linux/
[06:21] <Abhijit> hi. can i use old gnome themes for gtk appls inside kde? and chaning gtk themes for gtk applications in kde takes restart of that ap to apply help
[06:21] <theorem> I'm trying to use 'symrna' to view a few dotfiles --- I didn;t seem to get this installed when I called in opengl -- how can I install it ?
[06:21] <r4y> OK, thank you for the help. So I run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" to see the over all health after about 70 minutes or so.
[06:22] <jbrks> pnorman, i dunno if i'll use windows... but i can use ubuntu+debian for eg..
[06:23] <r4y> Well, from what I can tell, it should be "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda1" with a 1
[06:23] <jbrks> pnorman, thing is i'm starting to play more with VM images.. and i can easily lose hours of virtual machine files..
[06:24] <jbrks> pnorman, btw they even have a repo .. and a company that does so really wishes a good deal for their customers
[06:24] <r4y> I meant that sda should be sda1 because I was getting an error message that I couldn't run fsck but when I changed it to sda1 it worked, so
[06:24] <jbrks> pnorman, so definitely lsi is worth a try on my part.. even if its just raid1
[06:25] <jbrks> pnorman, btw.. you probably seen how little information or how little real hardware raid is known to be reported from linux raid webpages..
[06:25] <jbrks> pnorman, you've probably seen this http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins
[06:26] <theorem> is there an equivalent to 'yum provides'   with apt-get ?
[06:26] <r4y> O, but I get it. Duh, it is like a blank field, sorry sda means sda1, or sda2 and so on. I forgot reading that. I should go
[06:26] <Saij> ANyone have any isnight into udevd '/sbin/modprobe' -bv issues on boot?
 prior to these messages it will throw a ton of ata1 device was slow to respond messages
[06:26] <r4y> thank you for the info by the way again
[06:26] <r4y> :) /
[06:26] <jbrks> pnorman, it's part linux distros to see 3ware modules in the kernel tree
[06:27] <jbrks> theorem, maybe you can do apt-cache show <packagename> .. it'll say "dependencies"
[06:28] <jbrks> Saij, sounds liek you're missing moduleinit something in the initrd..
[06:28] <theorem> jbrks: here's what I see : http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/smyrna.1.html
[06:29] <Saij> Would that be likely off a litterally 5 minute old clean install?
[06:29] <jbrks> Saij, you using a stable repo?
[06:29] <jbrks> Saij, like.. are you using the right kernel as well?
[06:29] <Saij> Have not touched it, clean install of Xubuntu 11.10 x64
[06:29] <Saij> 3.0.0.12 generic
[06:30] <Saij> if I break the boot after initramfs fails in "recovery" mode, I can then resume boot normally
[06:30] <Saij> but it will never boot clean on its own
[06:30] <jbrks> Saij, what do you mean?
[06:31] <Saij> lets say I boot it using the recovery mode option. It will throw the various ata1 slow to respond messages, then the various udev messages, then it will stop
[06:31] <jbrks> Saij, was this an upgraded system? maybe you have a problematic module or something
[06:31] <Saij> i break with CTRL+C
[06:31] <Saij> not upgraded, clean install as stated previously
[06:31] <hoverbear> Just isntalled ubuntu 10.10, rebooting gives "error: invalid arch independant ELF magic" post bios, suggestiongs?
[06:31] <Jordan_U> hoverbear: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[06:32] <jbrks> Saij, check the logs.. /var/log/syslog and /var/log/dmesg.1.log
[06:32] <hoverbear> Jordan_U: No sir. several partitions though
[06:32] <jbrks> Saij, and/or /var/log/dmesg<latest>
[06:33] <Saij> what am i looking for in specific?
[06:33] <jbrks> hoverbear, elf magic? that sounds funny.. you been hanging around with dangerous magicians
[06:34] <hoverbear> jbrks: Yes :-P
[06:34] <Jordan_U> hoverbear: Did you change the settings for where grub is installed in the Ubuntu installer?
[06:34] <hoverbear> Nope
[06:34] <jbrks> hoverbear, you can try to boot into a grub rescue..
[06:34] <jbrks> !rescue
[06:34] <hoverbear> I tried reinstalling grub and using efi grub but no luck.
[06:35] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | hoverbear
[06:35] <plomb> Anyone know how to mount an external usb drive?
[06:35] <jbrks> plomb, it should be automounted if there's filesystems on it on the desktop
[06:36] <Jordan_U> hoverbear: That error is caused by the grub stored in the mbr+embedded area being out of sync with the modules in /boot/grub/.
[06:36] <Saij> I've found the lines where it starts the ata1: link sis slow to respond, lease be patient messages
[06:36] <Saij> after about 5 of those it goes to ata2, port disabled, ignoring
[06:36] <jbrks> Jordan_U, that makes sense.. because it says "elf" (executive linking format)
[06:36] <plomb> jbrks, I'm not sure if there is a filesystem on it or not.  Also I don't know what device node the kernel has allocated.
[06:37] <jbrks> plomb, you use cli? did you try the disk<> menu option ?
[06:37] <jbrks> plomb, you should be able to access partition editing via gui
[06:37] <plomb> huh?
[06:37] <hoverbear> Jordan_U: I declared a seperate boot partition, maybe that's the issue
[06:38] <plomb> I just wanna be able to do "mount /mnt /dev/whatever"
[06:38] <hoverbear> plomb: mount /dev/whatever /mnt you mean
[06:38] <jbrks> plomb, omg.. you need help.. any "filesystem" resides in zones called "partitions". If you want the whole usb to have 1 filesystem, then the minium and maximum is 1 partition.
[06:38] <plomb> or if there is no fs, then to be able to do "mkfs /dev/whatever"
[06:38] <jbrks> plomb, no..
[06:38] <jbrks> plomb, you need to use a partition editor..
[06:38] <plomb> hoverbear, Yes.  That
[06:38] <plomb> is what I mean.
[06:38] <jbrks> plomb, allocate a partition, then make a filesystem on that 1 partition..
[06:39] <jbrks> plomb, the gui tools can do this in 1 step, it'll do those two things..
[06:39] <jbrks> plomb, you using 11.10 ?
[06:39] <hoverbear> jbrks: cli tools work fine.
[06:39] <jbrks> hoverbear, yah.. but he never uses cli..
[06:39] <plomb> I really don't have the time to learn a gui.
[06:40] <jbrks> hoverbear, see?
[06:40] <jbrks> it's even hard gui wise..
[06:40] <plomb> But whatever I use, I will need to find out what device node has been allocated.  How do I do that?
[06:40] <Saij> so i take it this hardware config is a lost cause with Linux?
[06:40] <Jordan_U> hoverbear: That would only be an issue after running grub-install manually and incorrectly, the Ubuntu installer handles separate /boot/ partitions just fine.
[06:41] <hoverbear> Jordan_U: I'll try again to make sure. Because it's definately not a general issue, ubuntu is the only one I'd have this issue on
[06:41] <Jordan_U> hoverbear: Can you get the boot info script output I requested (from a liveCD/USB)?
[06:42] <hoverbear> Jordan_U: If this fails I will.
[06:42] <Abhijit> hi. can i use old gnome themes for gtk appls inside kde? and chaning gtk themes for gtk applications in kde takes restart of that ap to apply help
[06:42] <Chat1587> Anyone from SG?
[06:42] <Abhijit> sg?
[06:42] <Abhijit> south gnome?
[06:42] <jbrks> Abhijit, south park?
[06:42] <Abhijit> g for park?
[06:43] <jbrks> maybe he means SP
[06:43] <Saij> its a rather pedestrial HP Pavillion laptop if that helps any
[06:44] <Saij> pedestrian, jesus
[06:45] <pfifo> what does the command 'milk' do?
[06:45] <hoverbear> Jordan_U: Ubuntu installer apparently can't handle a seperate boot partition.
[06:46] <jbrks> hoverbear, you're crazy..
[06:46] <hoverbear> Jordan_U: Using no seperate /boot it worked fine.
[06:46] <jbrks> hoverbear, that's not true..
[06:46] <hoverbear> It's true in this usage case.
[06:47] <pfifo> does anyone know what the 'milk' command does?
[06:47]  * jbrks thinks pfifo should stop spamming
[06:47] <Abhijit> no such command
[06:47] <pfifo> mfw you all just typed 'man milk' into a terminal XD
[06:48] <OerHeks> please stop trolling pfifo
[06:48] <Saij> or no one did :P
[06:48] <Jordan_U> hoverbear: The Ubuntu installer handles separate /boot partitions just fine. If you can reproduce a bug then please file one but your symptoms don't sound at all related to a separate /boot/.
[06:50] <hoverbear> Jordan_U: *Shrugs* It was the only thing I changed.
[06:51] <Abhijit> how can i make konsole tranparent?
[06:52] <Saij> alright, back to Win. Thanks
[06:52] <theorem> argh ... where is smyrna
[06:52] <aavezel> Like gvfs-open configure? in which place he his .config?
[06:52] <AnonStoner> does anybody know how i can read a .db file?
[06:53] <theorem> vi
[06:53] <Nach0z> nano
[06:54] <ImJake> when i nano it it comes up with all sorts of extra chars
[06:54] <ImJake> ah
[06:54] <Nach0z> well, chances are it's not a plain-text file then
[06:54] <ImJake> vi worked
[06:54] <ImJake> thanks
[06:54] <ImJake> oh wait
[06:55] <ImJake> no it didnt
[06:55] <ImJake> lol
[06:55] <ImJake> damn
[06:55] <ImJake> theres a lot of ppl in here
[06:56] <Nach0z> lol.
[06:56] <w3b> it gets crazy sometimes
[06:56] <w3b> super flood
[06:56] <Nach0z> It's over nine thousand!
[06:57] <aavezel> does body know how i configure gvfs-open?
[06:57] <Nach0z> no seriously though, how many people are in here atm?
[06:57] <smw> Nach0z, 1456
[06:57] <Nach0z> not over nine thousand
[06:57] <w3b> nine million!
[06:57] <Nach0z> this is no longer relevant to mah interests.
[06:57] <jbrks> Nach0z, one too many including you.
[06:58] <Nach0z> uh huh.
[07:03] <jbrks> Nach0z, I'm number one. You?
[07:04] <Nach0z> I'm 1337.
[07:09] <dr_willis> 1448 people here
[07:15] <ellwu> anyone know how to pronounce 'figure 8-3'?
[07:15] <bullgard4> What do the letters r, x, v, and t stand for in the command '~$ rxvt'?
[07:16] <badapple> hi
[07:16] <WIGGMPk1> I am using Ubuntu 11.10, have removed empathy, using pidgin, however whenever I log in (from lightdm) I get connection error notifications for facebook. I see Telepathy is running, do I need to remove telepathy? or will Pidgin no longer function, I know empathy is a front end for Telepathy..
[07:16] <thorn__> how long will fdupes take to check my entire file system?
[07:17] <badapple> i have a question .. i am using the lastest gnome shell .. and i have only a botton for close some page .. how can i put the minimizating and maximizating ones ?
[07:17] <Nach0z> my 11.10 install boned itself entirely... when I boot, stupid thing "can't connect to system bus"... I know enough computer speak to know that means bad thigns.
[07:18] <thorn__> 209000 ish files, is that too many?
[07:18] <dr--willis> badapple gnome-tweak-tool
[07:20] <badapple> dr--willis, man thanks =) .. so much
[07:22] <badapple> dr--willis, and do you know how can i move them on the left side ? thanks again =)
[07:22] <dr--willis> !controls
[07:23] <Villain_> gconf-editor
[07:23] <mao> why I cannot mount some squashfs under ubuntu?
[07:23] <thorn__> !happiness
[07:24] <thorn__> !topic
[07:24] <dr--willis> !fish
[07:24] <WIGGMPk1> !fail
[07:25] <thorn__> !noob
[07:25] <WIGGMPk1> lol
[07:25] <thorn__> !Period
[07:25] <mao> the output of "dmesg | tail" is "SQUASHFS error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on loop0"
[07:25] <Pici> !botabuse
[07:26] <thorn__> !passiveaggressive
[07:26] <bazhang> thorn__, stop that
[07:26] <Villain_> lol
[07:26] <Villain_> let em
[07:26] <jbrks> my eyes.. my eyes
[07:27]  * jbrks had to go on medical leave last week because of eye sore
[07:27] <jbrks> *sniff
[07:28] <bullgard4> gnome-tweak-tool > Advanced Settings > Window > Action on title bar middle-click allows to select 'Lower', 'Menu', 'Minimize', 'Shade'... What is the effect of selecting 'Lower'?
[07:28] <matrixiumn> hello
[07:29] <badapple> dr--willis, i didnt understand how to move the botons on the left side :( can you tell me if you know ?
[07:29] <WIGGMPk1> I have Connection Error notifications for accounts that were configured with Empathy, I have sense removed empathy and use Pidgin, why are these connection errors happening, do I need to remove Telepathy as well?
[07:29] <zuckerberg> zuckerberg
[07:29] <zuckerberg> haii
[07:29] <zuckerberg> guys
[07:29] <zuckerberg> hwdy
[07:29] <zuckerberg> anybdy der
[07:29] <zuckerberg> join channel
[07:29] <zuckerberg> channe
[07:29] <zuckerberg> channel
[07:29] <theorem> ?
[07:30] <zuckerberg> learning
[07:30] <dr--willis> badapple the various tweak tools can do it.  I keep mine on the right side. I don't use gnome shell much
[07:30] <bullgard4> !enter | zuckerberg
[07:30] <dr--willis> badapple check askububtu.com they may have more detailed answers
[07:30] <badapple> dr--willis, ok
[07:31] <zuckerberg> ubottu?
[07:32] <zuckerberg> quit
[07:32] <Villain_> -
[07:33] <thorn__> fdupes just finished
[07:33] <ilea> i need help
[07:33] <thorn__> so it took about 15 to 20 minutes. wow.
[07:34] <ilea> i installed the video driver and now i am stuck with the 640 resolution and i cant choose a biger one
[07:34] <ilea> what to do?
[07:35] <WIGGMPk1> ilea: installed what video driver, and how was it installed?
[07:35] <ilea> i instaled the nvidia video driver and i instaled it corectly because i have compiz working after restart
[07:36] <thorn__> scroll up and lol@me... lol
[07:36] <ilea> but i cant choose a biger resolution
[07:36] <WIGGMPk1> ilea: asking if you installed it yourself with their script, or did you use jockey? (Additional Drivers app)
[07:37] <ilea> i used aditional drivers app
[07:37] <ilea> i am using a ubuntu based os
[07:37] <ilea> zorin os
[07:37] <philio1961> semi-newbie here\
[07:38] <philio1961> looking for wifi help in Ubuntu
[07:38] <Abhijit> ilea, it will be better to ask on their respective irc, forum etc?
[07:38] <Abhijit> !wifi | philio1961
[07:38] <ilea> i dont know their irc
[07:38] <ilea> but its based on ubuntu so the setings and all are the same
[07:38] <WIGGMPk1> ilea: well, I am not familiar with that distro.. but I can point you in the right direction.
[07:38] <philio1961> thanks but was hoping to chat with someone
[07:39] <jbrks> philio1961, chitchat works here in #ubuntu
[07:39] <pnorman> philio1961: you haven't asked a question yet :P
[07:39] <jbrks> philio1961, but only on ubuntu
[07:39] <WIGGMPk1> ilea: Post # 2 has a useful link. Post 3 is really what you need to do (please read and understand what your doing though) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1869540
[07:40] <WIGGMPk1> ilea: sorry, that was ati, you said nvidia right?
[07:40] <Abhijit> ilea, #zorinos
[07:42] <philio1961> ok i am using ubuntu 10.04 and wifi woirks great with my realtek 8172 ....but when I upgrade to 11.04 or 11.10 it cuts connects but sporadically disconnects and won't let me reconnect unless i reboot
[07:42] <jbrks> philio1961, that sounds fun
[07:42] <philio1961> yeah fun
[07:42] <jbrks> philio1961, weeee rebooot :)
[07:42] <philio1961> not
[07:43] <jbrks> philio1961, check to see why it's disconnecting.. (dmesg<enter>)
[07:43] <thorn__> How is babby formed?
[07:43] <jbrks> thorn__, that a program or your baby talk mister?
[07:43] <philio1961> in terminal?
[07:43] <jbrks> philio1961, ya
[07:44] <jbrks> philio1961, maybe it needs firmware file.. did you try-> "apt-cache search realk |grep firm" ?
[07:44]  * jbrks remembers seeing firmware-realtek package on debian
[07:45] <philio1961> lol.....i wish i knew about all that
[07:45] <jbrks> philio1961, try apt-get install firmware-realtek
[07:45] <thorn__> http://youtu.be/Ll-lia-FEIY
[07:45] <jbrks> philio1961, you probably have kernel messages hidden on boot.. so thats why i was asking to type dmesg..
[07:48] <bullgard4> WIGGMPk1: I don't think that you'll need removing Telepathy. Probably there is another cause for your connection error. In order to get more qualified help please post the exact error message and the exact circumstances.
[07:52] <WIGGMPk1> bullgard4: alright, using gnome-shell (its a notification) saying "connection to (facebook username) failed - Authentication failed" another notification saying the same thing, except its my gmail account. option buttons 'reconnect' & 'edit account'. reconnect just generates more errors notifications, edit account does nothing except for clearing the notification
[07:53] <cody_> hello
[07:53] <jbrks> WIGGMPk1, you have too many friends on facebook
[07:53] <cody_> Hi, is anyone here?
[07:54] <joel135> I am
[07:54] <WIGGMPk1> jbrks: empathy is removed (meaning facebook as well)
[07:54] <cody_> What? Empathy is being removed in 12.10?
[07:55] <jbrks> WIGGMPk1, you should check any bug reports.. if its a common problem i'm sure it would be working on already..
[07:55] <r4y> Hello. Is anyone here from before when I was here an hour ago?
[07:56] <r4y> It doesn't matter. But here is the results. It passed:
[07:56] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/736999/
[07:56] <r4y> Here are the results I meant.
[07:57] <WIGGMPk1> jbrks: it's almost as telepathy is still trying to connect my accounts even after empathy was removed
[07:57] <WIGGMPk1> jbrks: that didnt sound right, more like parts of empathy are still here or something
[07:57] <jbrks> WIGGMPk1, sounds like you either need a vulcan pinch or a vulcan touch to fix that telepathy
[07:57] <r4y> Wouldn't that be under hidden folders in home?
[07:58] <WIGGMPk1> jbrks: or a vulcan minigun
[07:58] <jbrks> WIGGMPk1, check the bugs.. i'm more into the cli stuff.. :/
[07:58] <jbrks> !bug
[07:59] <WIGGMPk1> jbrks: yeah, I am getting there, my eyes hurt, figured I would try here first =/
[07:59] <r4y> If I were you, I might re-install empathy, then find out if it is still in empathy, then uninstall empathy
[08:00] <jbrks> lol..
[08:00] <jbrks> the old reinstall trick..
[08:00] <r4y> I don't use empathy though
[08:00] <jbrks> why that's pretty helpful
[08:00] <WIGGMPk1> i tried to get rid of it, it doesnt want to leave lol
[08:00] <r4y> I hate it when that happens
[08:01] <ImJake> lol wtf difference is there betwen pico and nano
[08:01] <WIGGMPk1> well, alot if your talking about sizes
[08:01] <ImJake> would u mind explaining it to me?
[08:02] <r4y> Like for instance when I install something in wine, then I want to get rid of it later, then I have to go to /home/username/.local and delete it under programs
[08:02] <ImJake> as opposed to what tho?
[08:02] <WIGGMPk1> well pico is 10^-12 and nano is 10^-9
[08:03] <WIGGMPk1> thats negative 12th power and so on
[08:03] <ImJake> oh i see
[08:03] <ImJake> makes sense
[08:03] <Jordan_U> ImJake: Please watch your language (even abbreviated). "readlink -f /usr/bin/pico".
[08:03] <ImJake> so pico is generally better for smaller files then?
[08:03] <ImJake> and kk jordan
[08:03] <katsrc> update-apt-xapi suddenly takes up 50% resources, why is that?
[08:04] <WIGGMPk1> are you talking about editors or sizes, dont understand your question
[08:05] <hemangpatel> i cant delete my folder
[08:05] <hemangpatel> & cant change permission
[08:05] <Jordan_U> !details | hemangpatel
[08:05] <hemangpatel> how can i delete
[08:06] <hemangpatel> i use 11.10 ubuntu
[08:06] <hemangpatel> i want to install xampp for php project
[08:06] <WIGGMPk1> r4y: reinstalled empathy, it retained my account information even with --purge, I dont like that
[08:07] <hemangpatel> i downloaded xampp 1.7.7 tar.gz
[08:07] <r4y> sorry that idea didn't work
[08:07] <Jordan_U> hemangpatel: We don't support xamp. It's trivial to install LAMP though.
[08:07] <Jordan_U> !lamp | hemangpatel
[08:07] <hemangpatel> ok
[08:07] <hemangpatel> lampp
[08:07] <WIGGMPk1> r4y: no, I am confirming, I just loaded up empathy and it had all my accounts listed =/
[08:07] <hemangpatel> then i open my terminal
[08:08] <hemangpatel> put tar file on desktop
[08:08] <r4y> I meant to go back in and change it so it doesn't have the info then un-install, but just because you didn't say so doesn't mean you didn't try that.
[08:08] <hemangpatel> i write cd Desktop in terminal
[08:08] <hemangpatel> then sudo -s
[08:08] <Jordan_U> hemangpatel: Please try to keep your messages on one line rather than splitting them up.
[08:08] <hemangpatel> then to unzip i write tar xf (file name) -c /opt
[08:09] <r4y> Or maybe it can't be changed. I wonder where the info is stored?
[08:09] <hemangpatel> then it creates one folder called lampp on desktop (with one small lock icon)
[08:09] <hemangpatel> i cant delete that folder noiw
[08:09] <hemangpatel> right now i 'm on windows xp
[08:09] <hemangpatel> so now i can do ??? friends
[08:10] <hemangpatel> what can i do ?
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> r4y: manually removed them all, gonna try and reboot but I think you might of solved my issue mate =)
[08:10] <r4y> Well if I didn't I hope you find the answer you need in the future
[08:10] <usr13> hemangpatel: sudo
[08:10] <pnorman> hemangpatel: Try to ask your questions on one line. It sounds like the directory is owned by root, so use sudo rm ... to remove it
[08:11] <pnorman> where ... is the appropriate stuff
[08:11] <hemangpatel> yes pnorman
[08:11] <hemangpatel> how use sudo rm ?
[08:11] <unkr> how to check whether the user is available in the irc ??
[08:11] <unkr> ONLINE
[08:11] <auronandace> hemangpatel: first you need to be in ubuntu, not win xp
[08:12] <r4y> I use gksudo nautilus to handle files, so I don't mess up
[08:12] <Jordan_U> hemangpatel: run "gksudo nautilus ~/Desktop" and use the window that comes up to delete the directory. When you're done be sure to close that window.
[08:12] <r4y> Ha, funny
[08:12] <sasori> i was digging my own system to learn ubuntu properly when i cat /etc/shadow , i saw my password encrypted..what encryption is used for this user pwd ?
[08:13] <hemangpatel> in terminal "gksudo nautilus ~/Desktop" ?
[08:13] <Jordan_U> hemangpatel: Yes.
[08:13] <hemangpatel> what it does ?
[08:13] <wiggmpk> r4y: thanks for the advice, worked out in the end =)
[08:13] <pnorman> sasori: iirc, they're salted hashes of some kind
[08:13] <r4y> Cool
[08:14] <usr13> hemangpatel: It gives you a nautilus session with admin privledges
[08:14] <hemangpatel> ok
[08:14] <sasori> i see
[08:14] <usr13> hemangpatel: You've been told two ways to do it.
[08:14] <r4y> gksudo nautilus opens the graphical user interface with super user rights
[08:14] <pnorman> sasori: see man shadow for more information, as well as man 3 crypt
[08:14] <hemangpatel> any other simple way ?
[08:15] <usr13> hemangpatel: You can use sudo to do it at the command-line.  sudo rm -rf /path/to/directory
[08:15] <sasori> ok thanks pnorman :)
[08:16] <Jordan_U> usr13: -f is almost never appropriate with rm -r, and can make accidents worse.
[08:16] <hemangpatel> usr13 : like "sudo rm -rf /Desktop" for dektop ?
[08:17] <usr13> hemangpatel: i.e. sudo rm -rf ~/Desktop/lampp
[08:17] <hemangpatel> ok thanks usr13...
[08:17] <Jordan_U> hemangpatel: Yes, but be *very* careful with that command. Any mistake is completely irrecoverable. There is no undelete.
[08:17] <r4y> I open a terminal and drag and drop the files or folder you want to delete, then you will know what the path is
[08:17] <hemangpatel> ok i"ll take crae
[08:17] <hemangpatel> *care
[08:18] <hemangpatel> bye bye to all & thanks to all
[08:18] <Jordan_U> hemangpatel: I would recommend using "gksudo nautilus ~/Desktop" until you're more familiar with the terminal.
[08:18] <r4y> I agree
[08:18] <hemangpatel> Jordan_U : OK
[08:18] <r4y> wait
[08:18] <r4y> One more thing
[08:18] <r4y> when you the window open
[08:18] <r4y> go to edit
[08:19] <auronandace> r4y: he left
[08:19] <r4y> O well
[08:19] <r4y> I was going to say go to edit, preferences
[08:19] <r4y> then
[08:19] <r4y> behavior
[08:19] <Jordan_U> !enter | r4y
[08:19] <usr13> r4y: I think we gave him enough information. He'll get the job done
[08:20] <r4y> You get my drift
[08:20] <r4y> sorry
[08:20] <pnorman> Does anyone know of a way to check where in a file a process is reading? I can do it with lsof -o -p pid but this reports it in hex, which I then have to convert and turn into human-readable units
[08:21] <r4y> OK, then I came to ask something here. http://paste.ubuntu.com/736999/, I says passed, so it must be OK, BUT, These are the lines that concerned me:
[08:21] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/737003/
[08:21] <Seventoes> I can't seem to get ip6_conntrack to load up in lucid
[08:22] <nitzs> When I press the keyboard volume control keys, how does it notify the notify-osd daemon?
[08:23] <pnorman> r4y: reading smart responses is always somewhat of an art.
[08:24] <r4y> Thank you for speaking at all. Well, I don't get it. I guess I can Google it for now.
[08:24] <pnorman> r4y: It did an extended test without error so I wouldn't be inclined to worry too much. maybe it found a bad block and remapped it, which is fairly normal
[08:25] <r4y> OK, I should more on then. I've been adressing a bad blocks problem for a while. It said I had bad blocks then I used DBAN then there were no bad blacks
[08:26] <r4y> then I used SpinRite, and it said I don't have bad blocks
[08:26] <r4y> I meant blocks
[08:26] <KillaByte> does anyone know how to add  video drivers in opensuse?
[08:26] <Seventoes> KillaByte: Why would you ask that in #ubuntu? o.o
[08:27] <Mafia-Azul> lol
[08:27] <r4y> Thank you for the help and sorry for over posting and hitting enter too much.
[08:27] <KillaByte> Being that some people might use more than one ....Dumbass
[08:27] <usr13> r4y: Did fsck -y  repair for you?
[08:27] <pnorman> r4y: keep in mind that the drive could fail at any time, even if SMART is reporting okay. that's what backups are for.
[08:27] <Seventoes> KillaByte: Chillax bro. Channels have topics for a reason. Go to #opensuse
[08:28] <r4y> fsck said the filesystem is clean
[08:28] <r4y> e2fsck said the filesystem is clean
[08:28] <r4y> disk utility said the same
[08:29] <r4y> I also ran: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-force-fsck-filesystem-check-on.html
[08:29] <usr13> r4y: Then it appears that the data you have on the drive is safe for now and is readable. But as always, be prepaired for failures in the future.
[08:29] <r4y> Everything came clean. My ram is fine because I ran memtest from boot
[08:30] <r4y> I am backed up.
[08:30] <Seventoes> anyone know how to get conntrack working for ip6tables in lucid?
[08:30] <r4y> I read that even new hard drives have bad blocks
[08:30] <pnorman> r4y: that drive has a surprisingly low power_on_hours for a 320 GB PATA drive - did you just get it recently?
[08:30] <pnorman> r4y: I'd be as confident in the drive as any - some SMART errors can safely be ignored
[08:30] <dr_willis> backup the bacckups
[08:31] <pnorman> r4y: they've always had back blocks, what you have to worry about is when they start getting lots of them and when they get more than they can remap around
[08:31] <Seventoes> modprobe ip6_conntrack says it can't find the module
[08:31] <pnorman> s/back/bad
[08:31] <r4y> I've had it for I think less then a year. I think it was 4 or so months ago, but I can't remember
[08:31] <usr13> r4y: So, did it work?  fsck was done during reboot?
[08:31] <r4y> Yes
[08:32] <usr13> r4y: Then you're good to go.  Hard drives always have bad blocks.  It's normal.
[08:32] <r4y> I have also tried this command: shutdown -rF now which didn't seem to do anything other then reboot
[08:32] <arcsky> anyone here got a asrock 3d with ion2 ?
[08:32] <r4y> ya, I know. I said this before: >	I read that even new hard drives have bad blocks
[08:33] <r4y> But it's good to be reminded, so I don't make the mistake of reminding others as well as myself of the same thing. Remember to back up always
[08:33] <r4y> I meant of not reminding other.
[08:35] <bullgard4> gnome-tweak-tool > Advanced Settings > Window > Action on title bar middle-click allows to select 'Lower', 'Menu', 'Minimize', 'Shade'... What is the effect of selecting 'Lower'?
[08:35] <r4y> sorry for the errors in my typing. If it came out like I thought it, it wouldn't be so bad. Sometimes that's a good thing, but only when I think through and correct what I am posting before posting, so I am sorry for that.
[08:35] <r4y> Thank you and bye :) /
[08:35] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  lowers the window below oithers
[08:36] <dr_willis> moves it under others
[08:36] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Do you mean that this command puts the focus away from this window?
[08:37] <dr_willis> try it and see
[08:37] <bullgard4> dr_willis: I have tried it before I posted here. I was not sure what the effect is.
[08:37] <dr_willis> its brings other windows to the top.
[08:37] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Thank you.
[08:40] <r4y> I messed more then I realized with what I said back there, O well. I meant I want to be reminded and help remind other people. Again, thank you for the help.
[08:41] <r4y> This has been fun, now I should make notes in a text file for the future to use.
[08:41] <r4y> Take Care.
[08:42] <dr_willis> tomboy notes for note raising
[08:42] <dr_willis> that way theget saved to ubuntu one
[08:43] <sudipta> !C]
[08:44] <sudipta> !C
[08:44] <sudipta> !c++
[08:44] <Pici> sudipta: Can we help you?
[08:44] <sudipta> !kernel
[08:45] <sudipta> Pici:no,I just found out that '!' sign extracts info from the bot....
[08:45] <raptor67682> hello world
[08:45] <auronandace> !brain | sudipta
[08:45] <Pici> sudipta: yes, please use that in pm with ubottu to avoid flooding the channel.
[08:45] <raptor67682> a question: which time do you read here : http://www.mauiwindcam.com/timelapse/campOneReef/timelapse.jpg
[08:45] <raptor67682> (on the timestamp)
[08:45] <sudipta> Pici:never noticed that :)
[08:46] <raptor67682> if you use wget then you get not the time of 7:00:43
[08:46] <sudipta> Pici:ok....sry for the inconvenience
[08:57] <r4y> I am making notes for future reference and I am confused about this. What is the -f for in this command?: "sudo fsck.ext4 -fv /dev/sda1". is it forced?, I don't see it in the manpage for fsck
[08:57] <r4y> -v is verbose
[09:00] <dr_willis> I thought its forforceing a check onext boot
[09:01] <dr_willis> !deck
[09:01] <dr_willis> !deck
[09:01] <dr_willis> bah.
[09:01] <dr_willis> spell checker auto correcting me
[09:02] <auronandace> !fsck
[09:02] <r4y> It can be run from bash from the grub menu, but I ran it from a live cd of ubuntu so the hard drive is un-mounted
[09:02] <dr_willis> bbl
[09:03] <r4y> Neat
[09:03] <linocisco> I got my GRUB of 10.04 or 9.04 lost. I dont remember version. I have downloaded live CD of 11.10. what do I do ??
[09:04] <r4y> I found something I put on cd. I need a sec to find it
[09:04] <r4y> http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/
[09:05] <terrence> Hi
[09:05] <terrence> Hello all
[09:05] <linocisco> r4y:  do I need to download another iso ??
[09:05] <r4y> I don't know
[09:05] <r4y> How will he find out what Ubuntu version he needs
[09:06] <terrence> Struggling to get my Gigabyte U8000 usb tv dongle to work on kinux 11.10 - Can someone help please
[09:06] <auronandace> linocisco: if it is before 10.04, it is no longer supported
[09:06] <linocisco> auronandace: so what do I do?
[09:07] <auronandace> !grub2 | linocisco
[09:07] <pippo12> Warrior.2011.iTALiAN.READNFO.CAM.XviD-TNZ.CD1
[09:07] <floydsprite> hi
[09:07] <r4y> Well, there's this if you have 9.10 messed up: http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/node/195
[09:08] <r4y> I've never tried it though
[09:08] <linocisco> how can I check which version I had
[09:08] <linocisco> ?
[09:08] <r4y> I put 10.04 and 10.10 an CDs for me to use
[09:08] <linocisco> because I seldom used ubuntu
[09:09] <gf45> hello. there is not firefox 8 for maverick coming. the Firefox Stable Channel Packages ppa states:  Publishing has been disabled for this archive. what does that mean?
[09:09] <r4y> Do you have another hard drive you can use to back up onto?
[09:10] <linocisco> r4y: yes. I have 888 GB portable USB HDD
[09:11] <r4y> connect 2 hard drives and a CD-rom to your motherboard and boot into a ubuntu cd
[09:11] <r4y> then see if you can drag and drop files from the hard drive you are having problem on to the hard drive you are going to use to back up
[09:11] <linocisco> r4y:  it is laptop
[09:12] <linocisco> ok. i would try
[09:12] <r4y> You could get a external hard drive which connects to a usb port
[09:13] <lio> how to restore gnome menu on ubuntu 11.10
[09:13] <lio> ???
[09:13] <r4y> How much info do you need to back up?, If it's small you can use a flash drive to move it to another hard drive on say another computer
[09:14] <r4y> I am guessing to right click the panel, then add main menu
[09:14] <r4y> I mean add to panel then a list will pop up
[09:15] <aditya> Guys I lost the default .bashrc file
[09:15] <aditya> any poointers on ways to get it back
[09:15] <floydsprite> so im getting a brand new 6gb mem 2.30ghz i5 processor and 1gb ded video card       should I put ubuntu on it or stick with win7
[09:16] <floydsprite> ?
[09:16] <aditya> Guys I lost the default .bashrc file  ? need help
[09:17] <r4y> man apt-get, or man aptitude
[09:17] <r4y> there might be something in there to help get it back but I am not sure
[09:17] <bergelmir> can anyone tell me how to change the navigation bar colors? i hate this dark theme (11.10).
[09:17] <floydsprite> ?
[09:18] <lio> r4y . is there any easy way to have the menu on ubuntu11.10 like in ubuntu 10.04
[09:18] <r4y> try sudo apt-get check
[09:18] <r4y> I don't know
[09:19] <aditya> got an idea unistall and install bash
[09:19] <aditya> will do the job
[09:19] <bergelmir> 11.10 could be the reason for me to change to another distribution...
[09:19] <gf45> @lio: you can use the fallback-mode which is the same like ubuntu 10.04
[09:19] <r4y> isn't it build-essential, anyone else know how to fix lio's problem?
[09:19] <lio> how
[09:19] <jincreator> lio: Ubuntu 11.10 use gnome 3, so IMHO you can't use gnome-panel in gnome2. However install gnome-panel package make simillar experience. It will install gnome3's gnome-panel. Logout and login with gnome classic session.
[09:20] <gf45> @lio: you can choose that when you login i think
[09:21] <jincreator> aditya: just copy file from /etc/skel/.bashrc
[09:21] <lio> i have done all those thing and i have only application link an links for storage
[09:22] <r4y> I am Googling it
[09:22] <lio> really ubuntu is transforming to somethings i dont apreciate
[09:23] <bergelmir> is it possible to hide terminal menubar by default in 11.10? it is disabled butalways visible.
[09:23] <lio> i m with ubuntu from version 6
[09:23] <r4y> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1185571
[09:24] <bergelmir> i need to show and hide it for each terminal session.
[09:24] <Phoenix87> suppose that there is a GPL application, whose creator isn't me, that needs a lot of improvements. Then I start improving it and I send the improved version to the actual creator, who in turn is not interested in the new changes. Can I start a fork of this app under my name? If so, how do I give credits to the original creator?
[09:25] <r4y> You can copy it from /etc/bash.bashrc by hand by doing sudo nautilus then go to filesystem and hunting the file down then copy it to where it needs to be
[09:26] <varikonniemi> is it not possible anymore to maximize the launcher?
[09:26] <LSymonds> !register
[09:26] <r4y> Where does it need to be anyways?
[09:27] <varikonniemi> while browsing?
[09:28] <varikonniemi> now i get 4 programs side by side
[09:28] <varikonniemi> i could get 10
[09:28] <r4y> OK, I see. It needs to be under home
[09:29] <LSymonds> Howdy guys.
[09:29] <lio>  is there any solution to force a nvidia fx5500 on ubuntu 11.10
[09:29] <LSymonds> lio: What do you mean force? The resolution?
[09:30] <lio> only to make it work
[09:30] <lio> because i tried all the solutions without success
[09:31] <LSymonds> lio: I don't understand what you mean...
[09:31] <LSymonds> lio: Have you installed restricted drivers?
[09:31] <optimusM> im duel booting ubuntu and windows but windows is freezing on boot up
[09:32] <lio> yes
[09:32] <optimusM> how do i fix this??
[09:32] <lio> do u have the same card
[09:32] <LSymonds> lio: I don't understand what you are trying to do. Are you trying to increase the resolution?
[09:32] <optimusM> ??
[09:32] <LSymonds> optimusM: Have you done a startup repair?
[09:32] <optimusM> how?
[09:33] <LSymonds> optimusM: A windows CD
[09:33] <optimusM> ok ill try that thank you..
[09:33] <optimusM> it happened after ubuntu froze
[09:34] <lio> black desktop
[09:34] <lio> nothing to increase
[09:34] <LSymonds> I am confused.
[09:34] <LSymonds> lio: What distro are you running? xubuntu? Ubuntu? Kubuntu? Mint?
[09:35] <lio> ubuntu
[09:36] <lio> 11.10
[09:37] <lio> with ubuntu 10.10 i arrived to install NVIDIA-X86-96......
[09:37] <LSymonds> I still don't understand what the problem is.
[09:37] <LSymonds> Could you get a screenshot?
[09:37] <r4y> Is optimusM still around?
[09:37] <r4y> I found this, but I don't know if it would help him:
[09:37] <r4y> http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/CaseStudies
[09:38] <elky> LSymonds, i don't know that one can get a screenshot with a non-working video card...
[09:38] <r4y> It's only the part at the beginning
[09:38] <r4y> He could try though
[09:38] <r4y> I meant LSymonds
[09:39] <lio> there is errorrs somthin about comptibilty with  ABI module
[09:39] <LSymonds> elky: Yeah, I probably meant a camera shot :P
[09:40] <LSymonds> r4y: That website is pretty interesting!
[09:40] <IceSpark> sorry to get off topic a little but to be on 2 channels is 2 nick names needed?
[09:40] <LSymonds> IceSpark: I think you register the nick with Freenode.
[09:41] <LSymonds> Thus, one nickname is needed.
[09:41] <r4y> Ya, maybe some day I will try dual booting Windows XP and Ubuntu. I am afraid to because if I want to reverse something it might be bad. Always backup things onto another hard drive
[09:42] <haylo> someday ?? just try it
[09:42] <IceSpark> yes i have,but every time i try it says already logged in but i cant talk in the room? or maybe the room is just dead,was the backtrack channel but seems like no one talks i guess
[09:42] <haylo> youll be fine
[09:42] <r4y> I don't have Windows on a disk
[09:42] <LSymonds> Why Windows XP?
[09:42] <LSymonds> Just run it in a VirtualMachine.
[09:42] <LSymonds> Problem = solved :3
[09:42] <r4y> I have Windows XP on a computer but it only came with restore disks
[09:42] <IceSpark> r4y, ive done it plenty of times no danger at all
[09:43] <hex20de__> Re
[09:43] <r4y> Why did they do that to me?, O well. That's what I get for buying emachines
[09:43] <lio> nothing to ls LSymonds
[09:43] <IceSpark> r4y, and onece you try ubuntu if you havent already i dont think you will go back
[09:44] <r4y> My uncle got me this computer I put together. I hooked the motherbaord to this case and so forth
[09:44] <lio> fx5500
[09:44] <awaad> How can I play MSS2 formats in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[09:45] <IceSpark> ive dual booted with windwos 7,xp,and vista you be fine
[09:45] <sasori> question: what the hell is "tar xvfjp" ?
[09:45] <sasori> all i know is tar czf , tar tzf, tar zxf
[09:45] <r4y> It's not like I hate Windows. They are all tools, but I like Ubuntu better. I can get it to look better
[09:45] <IceSpark> sasori,  to unpack .tar files
[09:46] <jon____> hi i need help with this cronjob. what does it do: [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir fuser -s {} 2>/dev/null \; -delete
[09:46] <sasori> i see, thanks :)
[09:46] <IceSpark> yes although i know that but to be honest i have never used there for not sure i even know how lol
[09:47] <sasori> what you mean? IceSpark
[09:47] <dr_willis> jon____:  you might want to ask in #bash
[09:47] <r4y> I've read bad things about dual booting Windows and Ubuntu, but if I had Windows on CD I would try it. Anyways, I stayed to help people, but I am not helping so I should leave. Thank you for talking to me.
[09:48] <r4y> Take Care.
[09:48] <llutz> jon____: find and delete files  in /var/lib/php5/ which are older than file"maxlifetime" and not in use
[09:48] <IceSpark> sasori, the command you asked about.that i said its to unpack .tar files, i know what its for but i have never used it so not sure how to even use it myself
[09:48] <dr_willis> llutz:  was faster than me. heh
[09:48] <llutz> dr_willis: sry, won't happen again :)
[09:48] <sasori> IceSpark: if that's the case, what tar stuff do you usually use ?
[09:49] <jon____> llutz: because i noticed the webmin service often crash after this command runs. not all the time only sometime. now i have 2 questions. 1) Why does it give me this output: "PHP Warning:  Module 'mcrypt' already loaded in Unknown on line 0" 2) Is it safe to remove this cronjob
[09:49] <r4y> I meant you seem to have things covered and I was helping for a while, but I don't know what else to add, bye
[09:49] <IceSpark> r4y, ive never had isues there are proper ways to uninstall ubuntu from a dual boot
[09:49] <r4y> I have yet to try
[09:49] <dr_willis> I knew it was deleting stuff with time requirements at least
[09:49] <r4y> It will be fun
[09:50] <IceSpark> sasori, not many i usually just use the software center since most things i want are all in there, also using apt-get install
[09:50] <sasori> if you used wubi for dual booting, you can easily remove it
[09:50] <llutz> jon____: 1. idk, 2. idk   better to ask in #php
[09:50] <jon____> llutz: alright i will, thanks
[09:50] <dr_willis> and webmin is.. well.. not well liked.
[09:51] <llutz> jon____: right, forget webmin :)
[09:51] <sasori> IceSpark: thanks
[09:51] <jon____> llutz: why?
[09:51] <llutz> !webmin | jon____
[09:51] <somsip> sasori: extract verbose from-file using-bzip-decompressions preserve-permissions
[09:51] <IceSpark> sasori, yup yup although i really want to get kubuntu but dont have strong enough laptop at the moment so im running backtrack5 as my main OS
[09:51] <sasori> somsip: i don't understand what you just posted lol
[09:51] <sudipta> how to increase the "power save mode" time in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:52] <somsip> sasori: it untars using those options for tar.
[09:52] <jon____> llutz: oh really! i didnt know! then if i need a free panel any recommendations? or none at all for ubuntu?
[09:52] <dr_willis> !evocation
[09:53] <llutz> jon____: sorry no, i don't use,  those i prefer commandline.
[09:53] <sasori> i see , tnx somsip
[09:53] <dr_willis> !ebox
[09:53] <sasori> IceSpark: since u mentioned backtrack, is that ubuntu based too?
[09:54] <sudipta> how to increase the "power save mode" time in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:54] <IceSpark> sasori, yes its a hacking distro made for IT Pros built on top of Ubuntu, so its just a striped down version of ubuntu with many many tools and runs flawless on this old 512mb of ram and 2.6ghz pentium4
[09:54] <dr_willis> sasori: yes it is.. and its not supported here in thischannel
[09:55] <sasori> i see, may I pm you IceSpark ?
[09:55] <dr_willis> definatly not for beginners
[09:55] <IceSpark> its actually my first linux
[09:56] <IceSpark> well ive used ubuntu 10 befor but that was a whillle ago i have to say im very comfortable in backtrack
[09:56] <sudipta> how to increase the "power save mode" time in ubuntu 11.10?
[09:56] <IceSpark> sasori, yes you can although this is my first day back on xchat after like 2 years how would i go bout pm? lol
[09:56] <dr_willis> sudipta:  you looked at askubuntu.com yet?
[09:57] <psychx-> Does anyone have any recommendations on what ATI drivers to run for an older Radeon HD card? I am using proprietary currently; but if there is something else, I'd like to try it.
[09:57] <sasori> there, i just sent a PM,  lawl
[09:57] <sudipta> dr_willis:no..i haven't...its really annoying to have my PC into sleep every once in 10 min
[09:58] <dr_willis> psychx-:  the prop. drivers or the gpl drivers
[09:58] <sudipta> dr_willis:can u give me the link?
[09:58] <dr_willis> err.. I did give the url
[09:59] <dr_willis> sudipta askubuntu.com
[09:59] <psychx-> dr_willis: I'm using the ATI proprietary drivers right now; are the gpl drivers the ones that came running when I installed Ubuntu 11.10?
[09:59] <sudipta> dr_willis:okk
[09:59] <dr_willis> psychx-:  yes
[10:00] <sudipta> dr_willis:i was looking for more specific answer...
[10:00] <dr_willis> psychx-:  unless the installer somehow installer them during install
[10:00] <LSymonds> Anyone here use xubuntu?!
[10:01] <iceroot> !anyone | LSymonds
[10:01] <psychx-> dr_willis: Ok, just wondering. And you don't know of any other third party drivers that may be available?
[10:01] <dr_willis> psychx-:  I doubt if any others exist
[10:01] <psychx-> dr_willis: Ok, thank you
[10:02] <LSymonds> !details
[10:03] <LSymonds> iceroot: I was just wondering if anyone uses it...
[10:03] <LSymonds> iceroot; I have no problems.
[10:03] <optimusM> how to i execute a tar.gz file?
[10:03] <iceroot> LSymonds: so what is your real question?
[10:03] <dr_willis> optimusM: you don't
[10:03] <optimusM> then how do i install utorrent?
[10:03] <llutz> optimusM: tar xzf foo.tar.gz     to unpack
[10:03] <dr_willis> optimusM: its an archive like a zip
[10:04] <dr_willis> extract. read install docs. run
[10:06] <psychx-_> Does anyone know where to find any radio stations for Banshee? ie: Where I can find a shoutcast style or actual live radio broadcast feed to plug into Banshee?
[10:06] <dr_willis> forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=83506
[10:06] <LSymonds> iceroot: I was just wondering if anyone here uses xubuntu....
[10:07] <dr_willis> !info streamtuner
[10:07] <psychx-_> Thank you
[10:07] <dr_willis> handy to find streams
[10:07] <iceroot> LSymonds: of course
[10:07] <optimusM> i tried doing fixboot in repair for windows but all i got was a black screen
[10:08] <LSymonds> iceroot: It resembles gnome2.3 enormously, as well as being fast.
[10:08] <iceroot> LSymonds: yes thats correct
[10:08] <bullgard4> What is the default window manager under GNOME Shell 3.2? (I am not asking about the »default display manager«!)
[10:09] <dr_willis> bullgard4: mutter I beloved
[10:09] <soreau> bullgard4: clutter I believe
[10:09] <soreau> er, mutter yes
[10:09] <soreau> clutter based metacity
[10:12] <KillaByte> Does anyone know the settings in firestarter to allow deluge to run at its best???
[10:13] <KillaByte> I have the bit torrent enabled
[10:14] <dr_willis> try no firewall at all first?
[10:14] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Can you tell me why Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME Shell 3.2 did install on my computer the package mutter-common ("shared files for the Mutter window manager") but not the package mutter ('lightweight GTK+ window manager")?
[10:14] <wincrash32> Can someone help me with orchestra?
[10:14] <wincrash32> I can't log in into login webpage
[10:15] <LSymonds> wincrash32: It must be a server problem then.
[10:15] <bullgard4> wincrash32: What error message do you obtain exactly?
[10:15] <dr_willis> bullgard4: no idea. could be one is the old mutter
[10:15] <r0gue> hello, how to install keryx to another ubuntu computer?
[10:15] <wincrash32> There are no message
[10:15] <bullgard4> dr_willis: Ah! Thank you for your help.
[10:15] <llutz> bullgard4: install aptitude and try to find out using : aptitude why packagename
[10:16] <KillaByte> of course it works disabled ...
[10:16] <wincrash32> in the log cobbler file wrote...
[10:16] <KillaByte> smart one
[10:16] <wincrash32> Sat Nov 12 17:27:33 2011 - DEBUG | get_items; ['mgmtclass']
[10:16] <wincrash32> Sat Nov 12 17:27:33 2011 - DEBUG | REMOTE CLI Authorized; user(?)
[10:16] <wincrash32> Sat Nov 12 17:27:33 2011 - INFO | REMOTE start_task(Sync); event_id(2011-11-12_172733_sync); user(?)
[10:17] <r0gue> hello, how to install keryx to another ubuntu computer?
[10:18] <arcsky> is there any good solution for accessing (read+write) linux drives (EXT3) from a windows7 machine?
[10:18] <computer> r0gue, what on earth is keryx
[10:18] <computer> ?
[10:18] <iceroot> arcsky: ##windows  because you need drivers for windows
[10:18] <r0gue> offline update manager computer
[10:19] <iceroot> arcsky: if you dont mean "access it over the network"
[10:19] <dr_willis> !ext3
[10:19] <KillaByte> test
[10:19] <arcsky> !ext4
[10:19] <optimusM> Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.35.5 or later.
[10:19] <optimusM> how to i update intltool?
[10:20] <bullgard4> llutz: '~$ aptitude why mutter-common; i libmutter0 depends mutter-common'. How does this answer my question: "Why did Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME Shell 3.2 install on my computer the package mutter-common ("shared files for the Mutter window manager") but not the package mutter ('lightweight GTK+ window manager")?"
[10:20] <dr_willis> I've heard that tool can do ext4
[10:20] <KillaByte> what you talking about willis lol
[10:20] <MeMyself> Hi, is there something like RDP(Windows) for Ubuntu?
[10:20] <optimusM> LSymonds i got a problem
[10:20] <optimusM> Your intltool is too old.  You need intltool 0.35.5 or later.
[10:20] <optimusM> how do i update this?
[10:20] <dr_willis> !Rep
[10:20] <LSymonds> I have no idea what intltool is.
[10:20] <dr_willis> !Rdp
[10:20] <LSymonds> 2 seconds.
[10:20] <r0gue> hello, how to install keryx to another ubuntu computer?anyone?
[10:21] <dr_willis> !info keryx
[10:21] <LSymonds> optimusM: What OS are you running?
[10:21] <LSymonds> or Distro even.
[10:21] <linda> Hi, I'm on 11.10 and just dropped Windows 7 into VirtualBox. My system has VT-d that is working fine. Guest tools installed. When I start the VM I get a msg that says that the VM is optimized for 32bit color and that the guest needs to be set from 24 bit to 32 bit. Thing is that the guest is set for 32 bit. Anybody have any tips?
[10:21] <awaad> How can I play MSS2 formats in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[10:21] <optimusM> ubuntu lucid
[10:21] <optimusM> 10.04
[10:21] <r0gue> i am using natty ubottu
[10:21] <dr_willis> awaad: what's a mss2
[10:22] <LSymonds> awaad: Have you tried VLC or mplayer
[10:22] <LSymonds> ?
[10:22] <llutz> bullgard4: next step would be to find out why "libmutter0" etc.pp. but as you don't seem to like finding solutions yourself, ignore me pls
[10:22] <awaad> LSymonds: yes I did
[10:22] <psychx-_> What do I need to execute a .run file?
[10:22] <LSymonds> awaad: Well from my knowledge, if VLC wont run them I doubt anything will.
[10:23] <awaad> LSymonds: VLC says "VLC does not support the audio or video format "MSS2"
[10:23] <bullgard4> llutz: Take notice: I am finding solutions myself every single day.
[10:23] <computer> r0gue,  http://keryxproject.org/
[10:23] <dr_willis> psychx-_:  make it executable  then   ./file
[10:23] <awaad> LSymonds: So if I want to play them, I have to install Windows or what ?
[10:24] <computer> r0gue, http://keryxproject.org/tutorial/
[10:24] <linda> Wut! Where is  xorg.conf should be here gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:24] <rhin0> you have to generate it linda
[10:24] <rhin0> it's not there by default
[10:24] <dr_willis> what makes a mss2 anyway
[10:25] <rhin0> if you need it to hack about it -- there is a way of getting it - google how to "generate" it linda
[10:25] <LSymonds> awaad: Two seconds.
[10:25] <rhin0> hack about with it
[10:25] <linda> rhin8 wow this Ubuntu is not really like other *nix flavors I have used
[10:25] <r0gue> i know that computer but i have an online windows pc at work place but an offline ubuntu pc at home, and keryx is working in windows but it is not displaying anything in ubuntu, i mean its showing a different language
[10:25] <psychx-_> dr_willis: would that be: sudo chmod +x file.run  ?
[10:25] <awaad> LSymonds: Okay, take your time.
[10:25] <dr_willis> psychx-_:  euro mist likely   not needed
[10:25] <dr_willis> euro
[10:26] <rhin0> it's GNU (gnu is not unix) and linux linda (not really linux) (but very very similar)
[10:26] <dr_willis> dang spell auto corrector
[10:26] <linda> rhin0, I would think sudo touch or just vi xorg.conf would do the trick?
[10:26] <rhin0> linda haven't had to so it ever -- I know you have to generate it !xorg.conf
[10:26] <rhin0> !xorg.conf
[10:26] <computer> r0gue, flash corruption?
[10:27] <rhin0> no idea -- you have to generate it though -- it's just not there to keep things tidy
[10:27] <dr_willis> x has not needed a xorg.ci
[10:27] <LSymonds> awaad: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg vlc
[10:27] <rhin0> some X utilities will generate it
[10:27] <LSymonds> awaad: Have you tried that?
[10:27] <dr_willis> x has not needed a xorg.conf for some time
[10:27] <linda> rhin0, Yeah I came from Debian. But I think I remember how I should set it up.
[10:27] <rhin0> what i'm telling linda dr_willis is that if you really need it it can be created (generated) from the x configuration - so you can alter things manually -- xorg.conf is a flatfile
[10:28] <rhin0> you have to be careful with it linda
[10:28] <linda> rhin0, yeah I am a little worried since I am using the GPU in my i7 2600 using this machine for VT-d work in a VM. Thats why I did not play with it.
[10:29] <rhin0> well if you do always backup copy xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak -- so If you lose X you can just copy the backup file back onto it and then restart X (startx)
[10:29] <llutz> rhin0: if one really needs to setup xorg-stuff,  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ should be used
[10:29] <linda> rhin0, this system is set up to use the VT-d/VT-x that is in the Sandy Bridge 2600.
[10:29] <unkr> heyy
[10:30] <freakynl> hi, ubuntu 11.10 comes with kernel 3.0. Since 2.6.38 LIO is the in-kernel iscsi target, is this supported by ubuntu? Don't see the rtsadmin tools etc. in package manager
[10:30] <ssta> llutz: that's true, but almost ALL advice you'll find on websites for problems will assume that you have an xorg.conf and tell you how to hack on that
[10:31] <llutz> ssta: no reason to keep and spread that ancient thing
[10:31] <freakynl> and almost anything I find on google either uses iscsi enterprise target (iet(d)) or self built kernels/tools regarding to lio
[10:32] <awaad> LSymonds: Okay I tried it
[10:32] <awaad> But the problem remains
[10:32] <ssta> llutz: someone ought to document it better then
[10:32] <llutz> ssta: true, maybe at leat ubottu should point at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[10:33] <llutz> least*
[10:33] <r0gue> the program is as useful as it can be
[10:34] <awaad> LSymonds:Are you here ?
[10:34] <LSymonds> awaad: Yes.
[10:34] <Guest86830> Ubuntu 11.10 compatibility questions
[10:34] <ssta> llutz: that page gives 2 lines of (woefully inadequete) explanation of the xorg.conf.d way.  The rest of it assumes xorg.conf
[10:34] <awaad> LSymonds: Do you have any other solution ?
[10:35] <r0gue> how to create a shortcut to a program?
[10:35] <dr_willis> just wait for wayland.. i bet this channel will be sooo busy.
[10:35] <r0gue> in ubutu?
[10:36] <r0gue> sorry ubuntu
[10:36] <Guest86830> I'm running a pretty crappy HP Pavilion a1720n and Ubuntu 11.10 runs LIKE CRAP on it. Any ideas on what I might need to upgrade to get it running smoothly?
[10:37] <LSymonds> awaad: Not that I know of , sorry.
[10:37] <ssta> Guest86830: either better gfx, or use a faster/lighter destop environment than unity
[10:37] <awaad> LSymonds: Okay no problem
[10:37] <awaad> Thanks for help
[10:38] <Guest86830> ssta: By gfx, you mean graphics card? Sorry, hardware is Mandarin to me...
[10:38] <r0gue> Guest86830, use some lightweight env such as xfce
[10:38] <ssta> Guest86830: yes.
[10:38] <Guest86830> The thing is, I WANT to use Unity and don't mind at all upgrading. I just don't know what to upgrade lol
[10:39] <ssta> Guest86830: more memory is almost always a good upgrade.  For unity, better graphics hardware will help
[10:39] <mandaro90> ciao
[10:39] <mandaro90> list!
[10:39] <r0gue> Guest86830, then use Linux Mint in that distro upgrading is not compulsory whereas in ubuntu upgrading is necessary
[10:40] <ssta> I won't worry about why you'd actually want unity... :)
[10:40] <ssta> r0gue: upgrading is compulsory in ubuntu?  How so?
[10:40] <hacktosh> HI! I lost some movies on my phone (BB curve 9300) and i want to set up this lost movies. But I have problem, I install a software to do this. So I install this with wine because it's a software for windows, but it does not want to read my phone cause the phone is not on the wine emulator but on linux. So how I can get my lost movies (of my phone) on ubuntu ??? can somebody help me please.
[10:40] <Guest86830> ssta: yes, I am purchasing a GB or 2 as well. I'm having loads of trouble with gfx as I have NO experience with it at all
[10:40] <r0gue> it is compulsory, i read it in some article or something ssta
[10:40] <r0gue> but not in linux mint ssta
[10:40] <mandaro90> lista
[10:41] <ssta> r0gue: interesting...also I think wrong.
[10:41] <r0gue> what?ssta?
[10:41] <mandaro90> ma nessunoi parla italiano qui?
[10:41] <Hot> Hi, I have an issue with "lubuntu 11.10" and a "Digicom usb nano 150" usb wireless device. if I try to let opened the wireless network ,it works,but when I try to add a wpa2 aes password,it seems that lubuntu try to connect continuosly to the network but it doesn't work. The usb wireless device is based on the realtek 8192SU chipset
[10:41] <Pici> !it | mandaro90
[10:42] <ssta> r0gue: you don't have to upgrade ubuntu.  If you want ypu can install warty and run it unupgraded... Probably I'm not understanding your point
[10:42] <hacktosh> somebody can help me ?
[10:43] <r0gue> ssta ok i am cool
[10:45] <r0gue> hacktosh, there might be some software for blackberry dude
[10:45] <hacktosh> r0gue, I haven't find it.
[10:46] <r0gue> if your movies are on memory card then you can recover it even without blackberry pc suite
[10:47] <szal> can someone tell me how to import an existing .mbox file into Thunderbird?  if I go to Tools -> Import and select "Mail" as import task, I get this -> http://www.abload.de/img/20111113_thunderbirdicuvv.png
[10:48] <iceroot> szal: that is ubuntu?
[10:48] <szal> iceroot: yes
[10:49] <szal> iceroot: Kubuntu, to be precise, but that shouldn't matter here ^^
[10:49] <ziggyfish> does anyone know the package I need to install to download mms:// videos using mplayer?
[10:49] <llutz> szal: former thunderbirds needed an add-on "ImportExportTools" to import mbox
[10:49] <mcduffy> Howdy: can I use a 9.04 live cd session to install a 10.04 or 11.04 iso to a keydrive?
[10:49] <iceroot> szal: i would try #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org  maybe its a better place for that
[10:49] <iceroot> mcduffy: yes
[10:50] <iceroot> !usb | mcduffy
[10:51] <mcduffy> thank you iceroot
[10:53] <rhin0> whats the maximum addresseable RAM in ubuntu?
[10:53] <rhin0> 64bit
[10:53] <ssta> more RAM than you can afford
[10:55] <oCean> rhin0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#Memory
[10:56] <rhin0> ok thanks oCean
[10:56] <ssta> 2^64-1 (about 20millionGB)
[10:56] <rhin0> gotcha
[10:56] <ssta> umm, 20millionTB even
[10:57] <ssta> lots anyway
[10:57] <szal> llutz: thanks for the hint, got it
[10:57] <riderplus> hi all. for those of you who like kde, you can vote here https://verein.ing-diba.de/sonstiges/10115/kde-ev
[10:57] <riderplus>  the site is in german. kde can win 1000 euros
[10:57] <freakynl> aford? More than will fit in any mobo, which will be hit way before the 'afford' boundary for some :)
[10:58] <riderplus> you have the right to vote three times with one e-mail address
[10:58] <oCean> riderplus: please don't paste those links here
[10:58] <riderplus>  then check your e-mail and confirm your vote
[10:58] <riderplus> ok
[10:58] <tamir> hi guys
[10:58] <riderplus> sorry...i wanted to contribute with sthg to this
[10:59] <riderplus> :)
[10:59] <llutz> !ot | riderplus and you gave ing-diba a full verified email-address with it to spam you
[10:59] <oCean> riderplus: this channel is for tech support only
[10:59] <ssta> I suppose in theory, you could use that much address space if you started mapping the entire internet into it
[10:59] <freakynl> riderplus: you might want to mention it's german next time
[10:59] <oCean> freakynl: he did, but it's offtopic, let's move on
[11:00] <riderplus> freakynl i said that!
[11:00] <freakynl> yea noticed :). Anyone aware of an iscsi target in 11.10 other than iet? Iet is giving issues once again and a bit fed up with it (it was fine until I upgraded to vSphere 5 tho' for the last 2 years or so)
[11:01] <linda> How do I see what my video stats are. Normally for things I do something like cat /etc/proc/cpuinfo or something like that. I am using the GPU in my CPU.
[11:02] <Guest86830> Anyone here know anything about graphics cards? Need a new one for 11.10
[11:03] <ssta> I've not had any luck with 11.10 and nvidia with multi-head.  If you only have one monitor it should be okay.
[11:05] <ghabit> Hello. How to change mouse scroll sensitivity?
[11:05] <linda> Guest80264, that you need to have huge blobs of compiled code. Depends on how much you want to spend and what you are going to do.
[11:07] <r0gue> ghabit you cant change your mouse scroll sensitivity
[11:07] <fabzor3> hi
[11:08] <ghabit> r0gue, no way, it scrolls sso little for me. I have to scroll SO much ^)
[11:08] <r0gue> you can only hold you scroll button continuously and drag up or down
[11:08] <ghabit> r0gue, is it a bug?
[11:08] <r0gue> i think your scroll wheel must be loose
[11:10] <linda> Is it Ubuntu that does not have xorg.cong by default?
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> linda: for now it does, but in the future, it will be replaced by wayland
[11:12] <linda> Never really seen a GNU/Linux flavor like this one.
[11:12] <ssta> it's kinda in transition at the moment while they try to make Unity useable for real work
[11:12] <ghabit> r0gue, what do you mean loose?
[11:13] <r0gue> ghabit, i THINK your scroll wheel might not be having a grip
[11:13] <linda> MonkeyDust, Yes I am looking forward to wayland. I love X but the fact that you do not have to monkey around in userland to talk to the kernel should give a huge speed increase.
[11:13] <awaad> LSymonds: I found the solution
[11:13] <awaad> LSymonds: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html#more-5275
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> awaad: also check out medibuntu
[11:15] <stephan> hello.
[11:15] <r0gue> can i access ext4 partitons in winxp?
[11:15] <stephan> is there some wiki page which focuses on ubuntu on laptops, i.e. tweaks and hints etc.?
[11:16] <zjb> hello
[11:16] <zjb> ?
[11:16] <r0gue> there are hundreds of sites stephan and if you find one of them then let me know I am finding them myself
[11:17] <zjb> where are you from?
[11:17] <stephan> r0gue: interesting stmt mate
[11:17] <linda> This is so weird. I am looking around for Xorg under /etc/X11 since I need to manual cong things under Xorg. ls -al is really not the way I am use to seeing files in the dir.
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> zjb: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of chat
[11:18] <sasori> am running win7, and i have another lappy running ubuntu..is there a way to use only 1 usb keyboard for both machine running at the same time?
[11:18] <LSymonds> sasori: Synergy
[11:18] <zjb> sorry
[11:18]  * sasori googles synergy
[11:18] <sasori> thansk LSymonds
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> r0gue: try this http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/media/explore2fs-1.07.zip
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> sasori: yes, but i forget the name of the program
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> sasori: synergy
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> http://synergy-foss.org/
[11:20] <r0gue> stephan there is no one particular site man I am using ubuntu for 1 and a half years and am literally out of websites hehehehe
[11:20] <zjb> I want to konw what can i do with ubuntu?
[11:20] <_spt_> stephen : see http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[11:20] <usr13> zjb: What?
[11:20] <ghabit> r0gue, but it works fine @ win. Logitech G9
[11:20] <stephan> okay.
[11:21] <linda> lol Syn3rgY is one of my names here at work =P
[11:21] <zjb> now ,I just learn to fun
[11:21] <r0gue> thanks MonkeyDust i visited that website but it states that ext4 partitons can only be viewed as read-only, is there a software that can give full read/write access?
[11:21] <oCean> zjb: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> r0gue: can't say, i never use windows
[11:22] <r0gue> ghabit i know that it works in windows but am "specifically" not sure of your mouse just ask around maybe someone knows ok
[11:22] <r0gue> acknowledged MonkeyDust
[11:22] <antnash_> Hi guys. Can anyone tell me how I shrink an lvm group and physical volume without affecting the data on the rest of it?
[11:23] <zjb> yesterday my friends said :window can do nothing .only to use ubuntu
[11:23] <linda> MonkeyDust, your not missing anything. Right now I am setting up a VM with some weird thing called Windows 7. I am lost in it, no bash or awk!
[11:23] <awaad> MonkeyDust: What is medibuntu ?
[11:23] <sasori> question..my ubuntu lappy is not visible in the network..i mean, i can't see it in my windows network
[11:23] <szal> r0gue: so far, all Ext drivers for Windows (at least the free ones) have in the end proven unsatisfactory; I regularly had filesystem corruption due to using one in the past
[11:23] <sasori> what to do?
[11:23] <szal> sasori: do you have a Samba server running on your lappy?
[11:24] <Rider_> g'day
[11:24] <r0gue> acknowledged szal
[11:24] <usr13> sasori: Are you talking about sharing files over the network. If so, install samba
[11:24] <sasori> am using windows 7 here in the machine am using to chat with you via chatzilla
[11:24] <sasori> the other lappy i have is ubuntu 11.04
[11:25] <zjb> me to
[11:25] <szal> sasori: that's not an answer to the question
[11:25] <Rider_> Is it possible to have a 2 screen set up, in Ubuntu, where you have a completely different X session on each monitor?
[11:25] <sasori> szal: i dont' have a samba server in my current machine
[11:25] <Rider_> versus the 'sepperate X session' setting on the nvidia settings panel.
[11:25] <sasori> is that another linxu distro ?
[11:25] <usr13> sasori: No.
[11:26] <szal> sasori: that explains your problem; install and set up a Samba server
[11:26] <usr13> !samba | sasori
[11:26] <sasori> ok
[11:26] <ssta> Rider_: yes, but not easily...and sharing keyboard/mouse between them would be tricky
[11:26] <Rider_> ssta: I wouldn't mind having to "switch" between which session is active
[11:27] <Rider_> ssta: the point is so I can have a session that remains open and running while I mess around on the other one
[11:27] <ssta> Rider_: you'd have to have two seperate xorg.confs for it...pointing at different screens
[11:27] <usr13> Rider_: Yea, sounds like what you want is a KVM switch.
[11:27] <somnium> hello, I have a problem in ubuntu server where my lvm disk is no longer mountable or workable at all. It seems that the server setup caused it to not have a certain file type anymore but the LVM information is all there and disk is healthy. Anyone that can help with fixing this or do I have to format the whole lvm disks?
[11:28] <Rider_> usr13: Do you have a link on how to set that up maybe? :)
[11:28] <usr13> Rider_: You just plug it in.
[11:28] <Rider_> usr13: Oh wait, that's for different machines
[11:29] <_spt_> somium : boot from Live CD and run recoverery
[11:29] <Rider_> usr13: I'm looking for such a set up, but on a single machine
[11:29] <stephan> r0gue: it just was the question if i need to install laptop-mode-tools for laptop machines
[11:29] <turgon> hi all, i'm in trouble with mono after upgrading from natty to oneiric, anyone can share a bit of wisdom ?
[11:29] <somnium> _spt_: recovery? hmmm how do I recover that LVM partitions like that?
[11:30] <linda> omg, I am about to eat this computer. Where the heck is xorg.conf. I tried touch, nano, sudo xorg -configure. GDM looks crazy. I just need to change a few things in xorg. Anybody know how to do that? Unity was so annoying that I removed it. I feel much more at home in cmd.
[11:30] <Rider_> ssta: so I'd have to have 2 xorgs, and then start 2 sepperate x sessions referring to each of them?
[11:30] <usr13> Rider_: A single machine?  Not sure what you mean.
[11:30] <ssta> Rider_: yes
[11:30] <Rider_> urs13: I have one machine, with 2 monitors. I want an X session on each of them
[11:31] <ssta> Rider_: I'm sure it's possible...but I'm also sure that you'll have to hack on the conf files and the startup scripts yourself to make it happen...the point and puke tools do NOT have the flexibility required
[11:31] <usr13> linda: There probably is not an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[11:31] <r0gue> stephan, i think the tutorials apply to laptops as well as desktops
[11:31] <Rider_> ssta: I suspected as much :)
[11:31] <usr13> Rider_: Do you have a dual head Video Card?
[11:32] <Rider_> usr13: I do
[11:32] <ssta> Rider_: why do they have to be different sessions BTW?  dual head is much easier
[11:32] <linda> usr13, thats were it should be on all *nix systems but not on Ubuntu =/ Did a updatedb and then locate and still can't finde it.
[11:32] <stephan> r0gue, system works like a charm OOTB, just wondering because i did not need to install extra tools as on gentoo for example
[11:32] <Rider_> ssta: You mean 'twin view'?
[11:32] <Yagwit> Wubi gives me permission denied even as Admin. Any tips?
[11:32] <ssta> Rider_: or xinerama
[11:32] <LSymonds> What do you mean yagwit.
[11:32] <usr13> Rider_: Like this?: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-Radeon-7500-128-MB-DDR-PCI-Video-Card-Dual-VGA-Head-/280640668009?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item41577cc169
[11:33] <usr13> linda: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
[11:33] <Yagwit> Ubuntu installer says permission denied after it gets to about 98%
[11:33] <Rider_> usr13: Yeah, but from a brand where you can do something with it :P
[11:33] <Jonii> Hey, can I change caps lock into ctrl somehow?
[11:33] <r0gue> in that case google is your best friend
[11:33] <usr13> linda: xorg.conf file is not used in most cases.
[11:33] <Rider_> ssta: The prominent problem I've run into so far is that, as a gamer, not all apps I want play too nicely with that
[11:33] <turgon> i seem to have /usr/bin/mono segfaulting during installation of package mono-gac. According to the output it seems it has something to do with libpthread
[11:33] <usr13> linda: What are you trying to do?
[11:34] <ssta> ah
[11:34] <turgon> what package should i reinstall to get things fixed up ?
[11:34] <r0gue> in that case google is your best friend, stephan
[11:34] <linda> usr13 I did that and then tried ls -al to really make sure that it was there. Nope
[11:34] <Jonii> Like, when I press caps lock, the system recognizes I pressed ctrl
[11:34] <Rider_> ssta: Also, when I crash my X (don't ask, it happens) I'll want to restart just the one where I'm messing on, not the one that has IRC/IM clients on it
[11:34] <somnium> _spt_: I don't follow what you exactly mean with recovery of it. Since there seems to be no filesystem type on the lvm partition?
[11:34] <ssta> Rider_: xnest can help with the second problem
[11:34] <r0gue> i notice that when someone logs out, he leaves behind a msg on irc, how do i do that?
[11:35] <ssta> it's (kinda) like screen for X
[11:35] <usr13> Rider_: Click on System -> Preferences -> Display
[11:35] <linda> usr13 I am using the GPU in my Sandy Bridge 2600 to set up a VM using VT-d/VT-x. All that is working but I was told my the guest machines that I needed to tweak my linux host.
[11:35] <sasori> hmmm..so this samba thing should be installed in my ubuntu box, and then my windows box will be able to see the files in ubuntu ? ..would this enable me to use only one mouse /keyboard in both machine, while the mouse/keyboard are plugged to my win7 ?
[11:36] <LSymonds> No Sasori. Just use Synergy.
[11:36] <Rider_> ssta: Oh, that's nifty
[11:36] <usr13> linda: Change screensize?
[11:36] <usr13> linda: If so, use xrandr
[11:36] <sasori> LSymonds: am confused with this synergy, do i need to install it in both machine?
[11:36] <Rider_> ssta: Still, I think if I just get 2 X sessions, I solve all my problems with a single solution
[11:37] <usr13> linda: xrandr with no arguments will show you the options.
[11:37] <Rider_> ssta: I don't mind the set up time that much :)
[11:37] <_spt_> somnium : this might help you http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/how-to-recover-lvm-partition-on-damaged.html
[11:37] <linda> usr13 need to change the color depth from 24 bit to 32. That is really easy to do in xorg normally.
[11:37] <ssta> Rider_: well, I've done it and had is switch with ctrl-alt-f7/f8.  Not with displaying both at once though...I'm SURE it should be possible
[11:38] <Rider_> ssta: Right, that's exactly what I'm looking for, except that they both display at once
[11:38] <LSymonds> sasori: Yes.
[11:38] <somnium> _spt_: hmmm I will try that
[11:38] <sasori> hmmn ok
[11:38] <milen8204> !nounity
[11:38] <Rider_> ssta: Do you happen to have any of that set up lying around? So I can look through how you did it?
[11:38] <usr13> linda: WHat video card do you have?
[11:39] <ssta> Rider_: I had one controlled by gdm, and one started with a script so I could bypass the normal startup of X and do what I wanted.  For your wants, you would probably need to have synergy in there too
[11:39] <stephan>  mh, my CPU Fan is constantly @ 3200 rpm. can i change that adaptively?
[11:39] <ssta> Rider_: I do, but it's at work
[11:40] <linda> usr13 no we are using the ones built into the CPU. The reason is that Mesa and the graphics stack is FOSS.
[11:40] <usr13> linda:  sudo Xorg -configure
[11:41] <Rider_> ssta: Couldn't I just have a startup script that starts another X session as I log into gdm?
[11:41] <linda> usr13 that should work but does not =/ Getting a bad feeling that is some Ubuntu thing. Normally on Debian etc that is the way you do things.
[11:41] <Rider_> ssta: That would seem like a pretty straightforward thing to do
[11:42] <ssta> Rider_: probably.  My way is a hack from start to end
[11:42] <linda> usr13 see there is a system link called X pointing to /usr/bin/Xorg under /etc/X11/ ????
[11:43] <Yagwit> Permission denied gave me a log...does anyone have time to look at the log? I want to install Ubuntu
[11:43] <r0gue> stephan you can change your cpu speed from bios
[11:43] <LSymonds> Yagwit: Put it on pastebin.
[11:44] <usr13> linda: Did you try    sudo Xorg -configure ?
[11:44] <stephan> r0gue: no the fans, is there no freq. scaling?
[11:44] <r0gue> stephan you mentioned CPU FAN
[11:45] <Yagwit> LSymonds: http://pastebin.com/VW89xMzt
[11:45] <usr13> linda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting_xrandr_changes_persistently
[11:45] <blawiz> how does gnome-terminal determine the title of its tabs? it would be nice if eg the title was mplayer if the tab is using mplayer
[11:46] <usr13> linda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[11:46] <linda> usr13 ooops boss just came in and told me to stop "dicking around" with Ubuntu and install "real" work environment so we can git stuff done. I guess its is going to be Arch Linux (or Debian) with Awesome as a GUI. =(
[11:46] <xy> hello, how to search for packages @ the command line to install them later in with apt-get install?
[11:46] <usr13> linda: haha....
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> blawiz: that's a developers question => launchpad
[11:46] <usr13> linda: Have fun.
[11:46] <linda> usr13 thank you for your help. Ill try this at home when I get a chance.
[11:47] <usr13> linda: Ok, save that link:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[11:47] <Fusionite> hi
[11:48] <Snicksie> xy, i guess you mean apt-cache search your_search_query_here
[11:48] <usr13> xy: apt-cache search <keyword-here>
[11:48] <xy> Snicksie: yes, thank you
[11:49] <usr13> linda: lspci   #To see waht the video card is.
[11:49] <LSymonds> Yagwit: What is Q::\\?
[11:49] <Yagwit> LSymonds: I have no idea
[11:50] <Yagwit> LSymonds: my drive is C:
[11:50] <Rider_> ssta: The tricky bit is the 'displaying them at the same time' it seems
[11:52] <stephan> i guess i want to use CPU Frequency scaling, then the fan can be slower i guess
[11:53] <marek_> hi, I tried installing Oneiric to a disk were already win764bit has been installed in efi mode. After installation it would not boot (althoug I set the partition to install grub to to /dev/sda1, the efi partition). Using the livecd I managed to check the efi partition. There was one dir called "ubuntu" with grub.efi inside. However, with efibootmgr I could see that there was one entry "DVD"...
[11:53] <marek_> ...and one entry "os loader "(I assume win7). After adding the ubuntu/grub.efi entry with efibootmgr I rebootet but would still directly boot into win. Checking again with the live cd I discover that my boot entry has been removed from nvram. Is anyone here who could help me ?
[11:53] <milen8204> !nounity
[11:54] <r0gue> stephan if you increase cpu freq then you should increase fan speed as well or else your sys can get unstable and can even crash
[11:54] <impiza> !nounity
[11:54] <stephan> sure, but i want to change the governor
[11:54] <impiza> ?
[11:57] <r0gue> stephan do what you like
[11:57] <Rider_> Does anyone know how one can have their sepperate X sessions display simultaneously on multiple monitors?
[11:58] <AnttiM> Hello. I have a problem with booting linux from a live usb
[11:58] <AnttiM> It just keeps rebooting
[11:58] <ssta> Rider_: try: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/multiple-x-sessions-on-same-computer-both-with-heads-and-keyboards-466804/
[11:59] <r0gue> AnttiM reformat the flash drive and make it live again
[11:59] <AnttiM> I've tried that a thousand times
[11:59] <ssta> Rider_: you can use synergy to bodge the "extra keyboard/mouse" requirements probably
[11:59] <r0gue> which os is it?
[11:59] <r0gue> AnttiM?
[11:59] <AnttiM> latest UBUNTU
[11:59] <AnttiM> I'm using Windows
[12:00] <Rider_> ssta: Cool! Thanks for that, I'll investigate this :)
[12:00] <AnttiM> and I've already tried two different live usb creators
[12:00] <r0gue> you get that bug error 'error in block" oor something?
[12:01] <AnttiM> handle_pte_fault
[12:01] <vanessa> http://b39b5112.whackyvidz.com
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> AnttiM: maybe windows people can help with windows programs
[12:01] <_spt_> stephen : CPU Fan info might help you here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_detect_CPU_temperature.2C_fan_speeds_and_voltages_.28lm-sensors.29
[12:01] <AnttiM> but there's not much options there
[12:01] <r0gue> did you download a fresh iso and try again?
[12:02] <AnttiM> it was  pritty fresh to start with
[12:02] <AnttiM> *pretty
[12:03] <r0gue> does it start with "stdin error", failed to load glib*something*error?cos i get that couple of times AnttiM
[12:04] <AnttiM> I haven't seen that
[12:05] <r0gue> AnttiM do format your flash drive b4 making it live?
[12:05] <AnttiM> yes
[12:06] <r0gue> AnttiM, can your bios boot from usb?
[12:06] <AnttiM> yes
[12:06] <AnttiM> I have set the USB as 1st Drive
[12:06] <jiohdi> AnttiM, is one of those programs unetbootin?
[12:07] <LSymonds> Are you sure it is the correct one? AnttiM
[12:07] <AnttiM> it boots to the Ubuntu boot menu
[12:07] <AnttiM> so I guess it is
[12:07] <AnttiM> only when I try to run Ubuntu Live from the usb, it won't start up
[12:08] <r0gue> AnttiM is right till there LSymonds
[12:08] <LSymonds> Maybe the file is corrupted.
[12:08] <LSymonds> Have you tried redownloading the ISO AnttiM?
[12:08] <AnttiM> I haven't tried Unetbootin
[12:08] <r0gue> wait, are you trying to install or just want to try ubuntu AnttiM?
[12:09] <AnttiM> just try
[12:09] <r0gue> ohh
[12:09] <r0gue> i think i know AnttiM
[12:10] <r0gue> AnttiM, does it actually start a live env?
[12:10] <AnttiM> no
[12:11] <r0gue> AnttiM, does it get stuck when you press the "Try Ubuntu" button?
[12:11] <AnttiM> it gets stuck at 4.3568 seconds
[12:11] <AnttiM> t
[12:12] <morri> hi guys was looking at problems or compatibility of exchange and thunderbird or similar under linux ,
[12:12] <AnttiM> or somewhere
[12:12] <morri> i only found older stuff doesit mean there are not as many problems or does it mean people have given up on it?
[12:12] <flow> hello pple !!!
[12:13] <r0gue> AnttiM, does it start GUI?
[12:13] <AnttiM> when I select "Run Ubuntu from this USB",  there's lots of text on the screen, and then a message "Rebooting in 30 seconds"
[12:13] <AnttiM> no GUI
[12:14] <Rider_> ssta: This guide is a bit old. It mentions the gdm.conf file... that isn't around anymore, is it?
[12:14] <AnttiM> usually the last call is i386_start_kernel
[12:15] <AnttiM> lots of ata_errors
[12:15] <AnttiM> scsi_error
[12:15] <AnttiM> and stuff
[12:16] <AnttiM> Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal Machine check
[12:17] <kaio> hi which package ptrace is in?
[12:17] <kenriko> !ciao
[12:17] <nightwalkerkg> Hi all.
[12:18] <r0gue> AnttiM wait i am asking other channels
[12:18] <AnttiM> ok
[12:18] <vokerz> nightwalkerkg , hi!
[12:19] <r0gue> AnttiM do you have any gfx card?mention it, also mention motherbrd
[12:19] <AnttiM> Processor context corrupt
[12:19] <AnttiM> I have 2x GTX 275
[12:20] <AnttiM> and P7P55D Pro
[12:20] <r0gue> is the iso 32bit or 64 bit?
[12:20] <r0gue> is the iso 32bit or 64 bit?AnttiM
[12:20] <AnttiM> hmm
[12:20] <AnttiM> I'm not sure
[12:21] <AnttiM> which one should it be?
[12:21] <r0gue> check the name on the iso
[12:21] <AnttiM> ok, wait a moment
[12:23] <nightwalkerkg> I am having problems with my video card,DexterF and one more person tried to solve it yesterday but no luck.The open source drivers give me only 2 possible resolutions,1024x768 and 800x600,i need 1152x864.When i install fglrx i get the resolution but the evrything is runing slow,kinda laging.Can anyone help? Also my monitor is unknow in the display properties.g
[12:24] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[12:24] <kamilnadeem> guys I am facing a slight problem after the KDE crashed while shuting down previously
[12:24] <kamilnadeem> I am running the default air theme , the pannel below is looking wierd as it should be transperent . check here: http://i.imgur.com/75q4b.jpg ?
[12:24] <kamilnadeem> Note I am running Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.3
[12:24] <FloodBot1> kamilnadeem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <LSymonds> nightwalkerkg: Is it an nVidia card?
[12:24] <AnttiM> r0gue: ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386
[12:24] <nightwalkerkg> LSymonds: No,it's an ATI Radeon card.
[12:26] <AnttiM> would you recommend Unetbootin?
[12:26] <r0gue> wait AnttiM asking someone on a different channel and did you use usb live creator from ubuntu.com?
[12:26] <AnttiM> so far I have tried LinuxLive USB Creator and Universal USB Installer
[12:26] <LSymonds> AnttiM: Unetbootin is good, but use the latest version (65 I think).
[12:27] <AnttiM> ok
[12:27] <r0gue> yeah try that
[12:29] <r0gue> AnttiM is your flash drive ok or does it become corrupt bcos if the reason is the latter one then try from another flash drive
[12:30] <AnttiM> I've already tried two different usb sticks
[12:32] <AnttiM> I'm downloading the version 10.04.3
[12:32] <r0gue> AnttiM install ubuntu from windows itself
[12:32] <r0gue> dont boot from usb AnttiM
[12:32] <AnttiM> I'm not going to install it
[12:32] <CharminTheMoose> How much of a security risk is it to let normal users have access to the shutdown/reboot binary in a single user system?
[12:32] <r0gue> why?
[12:32] <AnttiM> I just want to have a bootable OS which I can use anywhere
[12:33] <AnttiM> for secure transactions
[12:33] <r0gue> means you want to make it live you dont want to install it?
[12:33] <AnttiM> yep
[12:34] <AnttiM> so that there won't be any traces left on the computer hard drive
[12:35] <r0gue> AnttiM just burn that iso to a CD it will make it live as well as installable
[12:35] <kamilnadeem> ???
[12:35] <AnttiM> but usb stick would be more handy
[12:36] <kamilnadeem> AnttiM so make a Live USB then
[12:36] <r0gue> you can use usb stick for other puproses dude
[12:37] <AnttiM> kamilnadeem: that's what I'm trying to do
[12:37] <hanthana> i have open ssh in my firewall but could not connect from my Fedora 14 box to Kubuntu 11.10
[12:37] <hanthana> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.200 port 22: Connection refused
[12:37] <r0gue> sorry purposes
[12:37] <kamilnadeem> so whats the prob?
[12:37] <hanthana> from Fedora box firewall was disabled
[12:37] <hanthana> i can ping to this IP
[12:37] <kamilnadeem> AnttiM ?
[12:37] <AnttiM> the problem is that I can't get it running from the USB
[12:38] <kamilnadeem> And why is that. Hmmm. How did you maked the Live USb and on which OS>?
[12:38] <sikora> co to?
[12:38] <r0gue> kamilnadeem he wants to make a live flash drive and does not want to install a copy of ubuntu and he is getting several errors in the process
[12:39] <AnttiM> I have already tried LinuxLive USB Creator and Universal USB Installer in Windows 7
[12:39] <kamilnadeem> well it is strange to say the least let. Wait.
[12:39] <sasori> i installed synergy in ubuntu through software center..now i don't know where it went after installation
[12:40] <r0gue> AnttiM try puppylinux
[12:41] <bastidrazor> hanthana: do you have openssh-server installed on that box the .200 one?
[12:41] <AnttiM> I'll try that after I've tried Unetbootin
[12:41] <AnttiM> If it doesn't work
[12:41] <kamilnadeem> r0gue please let that be, he wants Ubuntu, don't go the easy way out on him like most people do
[12:41] <AnttiM> oh ok
[12:41] <r0gue> wow puppylinux is great for live flash drive
[12:42] <jiohdi> r0gue, yes, very small, quirky too
[12:42] <hanthana> bastidrazor: i can ssh from Kubuntu box to FedoraBox
[12:42] <hanthana> bastidrazor: this is a fresh Kubuntu 11.10 installation
[12:42] <r0gue> kamilnadeem he has downloaded ubuntu iso and made it live several times  but he still gets errors
[12:43] <hanthana> i home openssh-server is available
[12:43] <r0gue> acknowledged jiohdi
[12:43]  * hanthana never used Ubuntu or kubuntu before :(
[12:43] <kamilnadeem> there can be a problem with his Pen drive
[12:43] <bastidrazor> hanthana: default installs do not have openssh-server installed. (K)Ubuntu
[12:43] <kamilnadeem> Brb
[12:43] <r0gue> are you from india kamilnadeem?
[12:43] <kamilnadeem> yes
[12:44] <kamilnadeem> BRB in 15
[12:44] <AnttiM> kamilnadeem: I've already tried two different usb drives
[12:44] <kamilnadeem> Anttim I will look in to it, please have patience
[12:44] <r0gue> hmm because "pendrive" word is used only in India other countries use "flash drive"
[12:44] <kamilnadeem> 10 mins only
[12:44] <AnttiM> A-Data and Maxwell
[12:45] <hanthana> bastidrazor: apt-get install openssh-server did not work
[12:45] <bastidrazor> hanthana: 'did not work' is very vague.
[12:45] <AnttiM> by the way, should I be using 32-bit or 64-bit version?
[12:46] <r0gue> hanthana,"sudo apt-get install ppenssh-server"
[12:46] <kamilnadeem> Yes I am back
[12:46] <r0gue> great to have you back kamilnadeem
[12:46] <hanthana> Em: Package openssh-server has no installation candidate
[12:46] <kamilnadeem> AnttiM which ISO have you Downloaded and used to make the live usb?
[12:46] <hanthana> bastidrazor: ^^
[12:47] <AnttiM> ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386
[12:47] <hanthana> bastidrazor: E: Package openssh-server has no installation candidate
[12:47] <r0gue> kamilnadeem,he is using ubuntu 11.10 32bit
[12:47] <bastidrazor> !info openssh-server
[12:47] <kamilnadeem> ok, how much ram does ur system have?
[12:47] <AnttiM> 4 GB
[12:47] <nightwalkerkg> I am having problems with my video card,DexterF and one more person tried to solve it yesterday but no luck.The open source drivers give me only 2 possible resolutions,1024x768 and 800x600,i need 1152x864.When i install fglrx i get the resolution but the evrything is runing slow,kinda laging.Can anyone help? Also my monitor is unknow in the display properties.
[12:47] <chroot> hi, how to use vmbuilder to create a vm on my machine?
[12:47] <chroot> i have installed the kvm
[12:47] <kamilnadeem> Then 32bit is the right choice.
[12:48] <chroot> and i have the ubuntu server iso on my local disc
[12:48] <kamilnadeem> Now, about the live usb , when are you having the prob, In making the USB or after booting from it?
[12:48] <bastidrazor> hanthana: that package is in main.
[12:48] <AnttiM> what are the system requirements for 64-bit then?
[12:48] <AnttiM> after booting
[12:49] <hanthana> bastidrazor: do i need any configuration to do
[12:49] <AnttiM> it gives a lot of hardware errors
[12:49] <hanthana> bastidrazor: i did not add exernal repos
[12:49] <kamilnadeem> AnttiM 64bit is mainly for users who have more than 4gb ram and 64bit compatible processors
[12:49] <hanthana> r0gue: whats that?
[12:49] <r0gue> waht is what hanthana?
[12:50] <AnttiM> ok. well now I'm going to try v10.04
[12:50] <flowchart_>  is there a default password for remastersys the iso i made seems to want a dif password then th os i made it from
[12:50] <hanthana> r0gue: the package u were reffering?
[12:50] <kamilnadeem> AnttiM you didn't answer my question?
[12:50] <ubuntu> Is it possible to skip downloading language packs. It is taking forever (it says ~1600 hours). Xubuntu 11.10
[12:51] <r0gue> ohh i just added "sudo" to your command nothing else go ahead with ur conversation
[12:51] <fluturel> can i setup my Ubuntu server so that i can make two connection to it from my home computers and work with OpenOffice?
[12:51] <hanthana> r0gue: its the original open-ssh package?
[12:51] <hanthana> or some thing else
[12:52] <AnttiM> kamilnadeem: which one?
[12:52] <r0gue> i dont know pls continue....hanthana
[12:52] <kamilnadeem> booting from it?
[12:52] <flowchart_>  is there a default password for remastersys the iso i made seems to want a dif password then th os i made it from
[12:52] <kamilnadeem> Now, about the live usb , when are you having the prob, In making the USB or after booting from it?
[12:52] <kamilnadeem> Did you try UnetBootin?
[12:52] <AnttiM> after booting
[12:53] <AnttiM> I'm just trying Unetbootin
[12:53] <zsolt> hi there.I'd like to encrypt data transmission with ssl tunnel.could somebody help me?
[12:53] <kamilnadeem> Great , see if that works.
[12:53] <kamilnadeem> brb
[12:53] <Uxthui> What lets Ubuntu remember my num lock settings? I always have to unlock my numpad at every log in of my minimal installation. Regular Ubuntu always remembered to unlock it since the first time I did it.
[12:54] <fluturel> anyone?
[12:54] <iceroot> !numlock | Uxthui
[12:54] <raven> system does not switch of power with any command (halt, shutdown, poweroff...) - any ideas?
[12:56] <fluturel> how can I configure my Ubuntu server so that two people can work from their home on the server(at the same time) using VNC?
[12:56] <Uxthui> Thanks iceroot!
[12:56] <r0gue> AnttiM its not over with unetbootin?
[12:56] <Benkinooby> some1 can recommend me a free file hoster?
[12:56] <AnttiM> not yet
[12:57] <Uxthui> !LTSP | fluturel
[12:57] <Benkinooby> oh, sorry for the ot... wanted to put it into #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:57] <nightwalkerkg> I am having problems with my video card,DexterF and one more person tried to solve it yesterday but no luck.The open source drivers give me only 2 possible resolutions,1024x768 and 800x600,i need 1152x864.When i install fglrx i get the resolution but the evrything is runing slow,kinda laging.Can anyone help? Also my monitor is unknow in the display properties.Card is Diamon ATI Radeon 9550 and Ubuntu 11.10 32 bit
[12:57] <Maatheus> hi
[12:57] <Maatheus> :D
[12:57] <AnttiM> r0gue: right now it is setting up the persistence file
[12:57] <r0gue> AnttiM you can use puppylinux as the last resort ok
[12:57] <AnttiM> ok
[12:58] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  i have a short question about the chromium browser on ubuntu:  why is there chromium15 only in lucid and not in later releases??  http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/chromium-browser  I am eagerly waiting for the update
[12:58] <howlymowly> ...
[12:59] <r0gue> howlymowly, i think the later versions have their own binary versions thats why
[13:00] <Sky[x]> how to mount in terminal some network/share drive ?
[13:00] <fluturel> Uxthui: LTSP is just CLI or can it display a GUI?
[13:01] <howlymowly> r0gue: what does that mean :)? are the packages in a different repository?
[13:01] <freakynl> Sky[x]: mount.cifs
[13:02] <freakynl> Sky[x]: assuming you mean windows share nfs is different
[13:02] <r0gue> huh thats strange but who cares?use any one of the latest releases howlymowly
[13:02] <Nertskull> Can someone help me get a transparent panel?  I've got the panel part transparent, but not the places where the clock, window-launcher area, notification area, etc are not transparent?
[13:06] <AnttiM> I tried running the Ubuntu Live through UNetbootin, but the computer crashed
[13:07] <r0gue> ohh thats sad
[13:07] <Newbeeans> I'm trying Ubuntu on a different computer..same issue...takes 10-13 seconds to open programs
[13:07] <hanthana> r0gue: bastidrazor done! it worked after running apt-get update then install the openssh-server
[13:07] <hanthana> thanks guys :)
[13:08] <r0gue> Newbeaans, it will take that much time only once then it will load fast
[13:08] <Tixos> hi, can someone tell me if i can install older ubuntu Catalyst builds on 11.10 ?
[13:08] <r0gue> hanthana dont even know what you are talking about but thanks in return
[13:08] <Atlantic777> I have bootable USB key but the computer doesn't support USB booting. Can I somehow make bootable floppy or CD which will redirect boot to the USB?
[13:09] <Newbeeans> Anything that is very useful on a new install of UB? I think last time I went install crazy.
[13:09] <Newbeeans> Ooops I meant any APPs
[13:10] <r0gue> Atlantic777 change the hard disk boot priority it will work because your pc must be recognizing your flash drive as hard disk
[13:10] <AnttiM> I'll try to boot it from this computer, see if that does anything
[13:10] <r0gue> Newbeaans what useful do you need
[13:10] <AnttiM> brb
[13:10] <ssta> Atlantic777: there's a thing called "plop" that does it.
[13:10] <Atlantic777> r0gue: no in BIOS there's no USB option to set in boot order settings. It's quite old machine.
[13:11] <jacky123> what is the libmysqlclient-dev package actually used for ?
[13:11] <ssta> Atlantic777: it's a small CD that boots that knows how to boot a USB
[13:11] <Newbeeans> r0gue: I'm just trying to learn this OS.
[13:11] <guerrero> hello can some one help me?
[13:11] <Atlantic777> ssta: tnx, that's what I need. Just to search for "plop"?
[13:11] <ssta> Atlantic777: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-from-usb-without-bios-support-via-plop-cd/
[13:11] <r0gue> Atlantic777 write it to a cd and then install and I term it " THE SIMPLEST METHOD"
[13:12] <kamilnadeem> Hey my prob got fixed after disabling and then re enabling desktop effects
[13:12] <ikonia> kamilnadeem: you said that in #kubuntu already
[13:12] <Newbeeans> I know I don't like Ubuntu One...can I disable that perm?
[13:12] <guerrero> im trying to make a wifi conection .i have a wireless card capable of doing wifi.and ethernet conected right now
[13:12] <Atlantic777> r0gue: I wanna play with different distro's and versions, don't wanna to burn 20+ discs. :D
[13:12] <Atlantic777> ssta: thank you very much. :)
[13:13] <loconut> hello- I have a computer with disks sdA through sdF, with A-E of those in a raid. It seems every few beets sdF, which has my root disk, decides it is sdA, but not every time. This breaks my raid.
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> because I aksed that question here too , thats why any one who will face simmilar thing in the future will know what to do
[13:13] <ssta> Atlantic777: to "play" with different distros, I find virtualbox is very useful
[13:13] <r0gue> hmm then happy christmas Atlantic777
[13:13] <loconut> Any idea how this might be happening?
[13:13] <Atlantic777> s/distro's/distros
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> bye everyone
[13:13] <loconut> s/beets/boots.
[13:13] <ikonia> loconut: why do you think that ?
[13:14] <saju_m> ubuntu 11.10, how search within file content
[13:14] <ikonia> saju_m: grep
[13:14] <freakynl> loconut: what kind of raid? if you use mdadm with block version 0.9 it should auto-assemble, this is not the case for the newer block versions!
[13:14] <saju_m> have any gui available
[13:14] <ikonia> saju_m: no idea
[13:14] <saju_m> i could search within file content in ubuntu 10.10
[13:14] <loconut> because when I did the install, they were boot disk, then the other 5, after install they were the other 5 then boot for several days, then today I reboot again, and they're back to boot then other 5 again. Each time the raid-6 won't work. auto-assemble gets them in the wrong order (fairly wildly wrong).
[13:15] <loconut> so I have them manually specified
[13:15] <chroot> hi ,  is there anyone who can use vmbuilder to create a vm in ubuntu ?
[13:15] <loconut> they're all 00.90
[13:15] <Pavilliox> PulseAudio is listing no devices and the indicator applet isnt showing, aplay -l is showing my soundcards though. Anyone have any idea?
[13:15] <chroot> i can't create my vm with vmbuilder
[13:15] <ikonia> loconut: what are you talking about "they where boot didks" - your boot disk should be a raid array
[13:15] <ikonia> loconut: what type of raid is this ?
[13:16] <loconut> i have 1 disk that's my boot/root disk, and 5 disks that are a raid 6 with all the good stuff.
[13:16] <ikonia> loconut: what type of raid is this ?
[13:17] <loconut> I've mentioned raid-6 a couple times, but here's the line from mdstat: md0 : active raid6 sda1[0] sde1[4] sdd1[3] sdb1[1] sdc1[2]
[13:17] <ikonia> loconut: ok - so it's mdadam
[13:17] <ikonia> loconut: why are you referencing disks by /dev/sdX and not uuid ?
[13:17] <loconut> sorry- I assumed no one would ask for help with non linux (hardware) raid
[13:17] <guerrero> can any one help me.i want to creat a wireless network on mi pc.
[13:17] <ikonia> loconut: your mdadm.conf and /etc/fstab and grub options should be using uuid not /dev/sdX
[13:18] <loconut> the disks all seem to have the same UUID if you examine them
[13:18] <ikonia> loconut: the boot disk should be different as it won't be partitioned the same
[13:18] <Newbeeans> My number key pad doesn't work :)) Any fix for that
[13:18] <Newbeeans> I'm not a fan of the top row keys
[13:19] <TheLastProject> Yay! Netsplits! Those are always fun!
[13:19] <loconut> i don't have the page that had the command I used at the time handy anymore- what's the command to get the uuid of each disk?
[13:19] <ikonia> loconut: sudo blkid
[13:19] <Olotila2> Newbeeans, using screen?
[13:19] <Olotila2> Newbeeans, i got the same problem
[13:19] <jacky123> what is the libmysqlclient-dev package actually used for ?
[13:19] <loconut> that's the one
[13:19] <guerrero> can some one help me plz :(
[13:19] <Newbeeans> Olotila2: My touchscreen doesn't work but I'm reading about that...I mean the keyboard number pad.
[13:19] <loconut> all the ones in the raid are the same.
[13:20] <ikonia> jacky123: if you need to build against the mysql client headers or libraries
[13:20] <ikonia> loconut: that's not unusual
[13:20] <guerrero> how can i make a wireless conection for mi ipod touch from my pc.
[13:20] <qxt> How do I change the color depth to 32 bit.
[13:20] <loconut> http://pastebin.com/GYR0HFQf
[13:20] <oruE-htraD> have you tried bluetooth
[13:20] <loconut> which is why i ended up specifying them manually..
[13:20] <qxt> Using 11.10 with Gnome 3
[13:21] <ikonia> loconut: that looks great
[13:21] <qxt> need to change color depth
[13:21] <oruE-htraD> if you go on options there should be option bluetooth devices
[13:21] <guerrero> how can i mke a woreless network to conect with any device!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
[13:21] <ikonia> !wireless | guerrero
[13:22] <oruE-htraD> thanks ikonia :-)
[13:22] <qxt> Everybody here is talking about the UI not GNU/Linux.
[13:22] <loconut> ikonia, yeah, i just can't figure out why in a handful of boots sdf will decide to be sda again.
[13:22] <ikonia> qxt: no they are not
[13:22] <loconut> can I force a new UUID onto each disk?
[13:22] <ikonia> loconut: look at the grub configs and the fstab and make sure it's referencing UUID's
[13:22] <ikonia> loconut: you don't want to do that
[13:23] <loconut> fstab has uuid for boot, the rest is /dev/mapper names.
[13:23] <Newbeeans> No sound, no touch, no numbers *sigh
[13:23] <loconut> im more used to RHEL (just migrated). What's the equivalent of grub.conf in ubuntu?
[13:23] <qxt> ikonia how do I change /etc/X11/xorg.conf .... that ultra std file is not in 11.10
[13:24] <Jonii> hey, if there are system variables like $something, can you see what it's value is somehow?
[13:24] <Jonii> Or are they system variables if they're $something -typeish?
[13:24] <ssta> Jonii: echo $something
[13:26] <terrence> Can someone help me configure my Gigabyte U8000 tvtuner to work on ubuntu11.10
[13:27] <sasori> how to scan for available server IP in my network? e.g am on ubuntu machine, i have another laptop having win7, how will i detect  the win7's ip ?
[13:29] <tolecnal> Jonii: to see all your current system/environmental variables, type: printenv
[13:29] <loconut> hey ikonia, what if I used /dev/disk/by-id  (http://pastebin.com/27GrkDPT)
[13:29] <ikonia> loconut: just use uuid
[13:29] <electronabohadi> hi
[13:29] <Newbeeans> where would I update sound drivers?
[13:29] <ikonia> loconut: not quite sure why you are trying to use anything but uuid
[13:29] <qxt> ><
[13:29] <loconut> ikonia, if they're all the same uuid, the devices line would look like the same uuid over and over.
[13:29] <ikonia> qxt: you have to make the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:29] <szal> Newbeeans: you don't, sound drivers are part of the kernel
[13:30] <electronabohadi> where are you goimg now?
[13:30] <ikonia> loconut: no, they are not the same uuid
[13:30] <Newbeeans> szal: No sound on touchsmart-300
[13:30] <loconut> and auto-detect gets them in crazy order, then my vg doesn't load up.
[13:30] <LSymonds> The joys of having to run an XP VM.
[13:30] <ikonia> loconut: you don't mount the raid disks directly, you mount the meta device or locical volume
[13:30] <tolecnal> Newbeeans: by adding the ubuntu-audio-dev ppa to your apt sources
[13:31] <loconut> yes, i know, but mdadm assembles the disks in the wrong order, before you even get to the point we're talking about mounting anything
[13:31] <raven> vncviewer via ssh - how to connect to another ssh port?
[13:31] <ikonia> loconut: look at your mdadm config file
[13:31] <tolecnal> Newbeeans: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[13:31] <loconut> the raid-6 has one big PV, with two LV's  under it.
[13:31] <loconut> and if i don't manually specify the order, it gets it wrong and the filesystem is not mountable.
[13:31] <ikonia> loconut: look at your mdadm config file
[13:32] <LSymonds> Martinp23: -$$*- [Global Notice] Hi folks. Over the next 30 mins or so I'll be doing some network upgrades. This will be in two stages. First, there will be a huge netsplit, followed by smaller netsplits. About 2700 users will lose connections as a result. I'll send messages directly to users on servers which will be restarted in a moment (zelazny, kornbluth). Thanks for your patience and have a great sunday.
[13:32] <loconut> i wrote it, i know what it says. I had to make it myself to get the disks right. http://pastebin.com/cSd2Xacv
[13:32] <ikonia> LSymonds: why are you pasting that in here ?
[13:32] <hacktosh> How to get lost movies with photorec on IPod Touch. On my PC photorec don't find my IPod Touch ... Can somebady help me ?
[13:32] <loconut> i never had to specify the order in rhel, it always detected correctly.
[13:33] <LSymonds> ikonia: Just thought it would help some people over the huge netsplit that just happened.
[13:33] <ikonia> loconut: you're not using rhel - and rhel has an older kernel with different setup,
[13:33] <Newbeeans> unable to lock directory...downloading updates...so i guess i must wait to do the ppa for audio
[13:33] <ikonia> loconut: no, it doesn't it's just spam,
[13:33] <loconut> i migrated the disk from RHEL.
[13:33] <ikonia> loconut: sorry, that was for LSymonds
[13:33] <ikonia> loconut: again - that doesn't change what I said
[13:33] <loconut> (RHEL-6.1)
[13:33] <socio> ciao
[13:33] <LSymonds> Oh right, sorry ikonia.
[13:33] <socio> !list
[13:34] <hacktosh> Help ??
[13:34] <loconut> ok, so help me understand how I can use UUIDs to get mdadm to get the disks right when they all appear to have the same UUID (the one of the array)
[13:34] <ikonia> LSymonds: people on on the same network as you, they get the same notices as you...they don't need you to tell them again
[13:34] <ikonia> loconut: what is in your mdadm config
[13:34] <loconut> I just sent that in a pastebin
[13:34] <loconut> http://pastebin.com/cSd2Xacv
[13:34] <freakynl> loconut: example: http://pastebin.ca/2094141
[13:35] <ikonia> loconut: ok, so the devices part is the problem
[13:35] <ikonia> loconut: you're hard coding device files, and I'm guessing your hardware isn't maintaining the state
[13:35] <freakynl> yea just use DEVICES PARTITIONS as in example and it'll auto detect
[13:35] <freakynl> err DEVICE PARTITIONS
[13:36] <freakynl> regenerate frigging initrd after that ubuntu includes it there...
[13:36] <loconut> as i mentioned, without the devices part, it gets them in the wrong order,  eg sde1 sdb1 sda1 sdc1. in some cases the vg will detect, but the filesystem will be unmountable.
[13:36] <KittyBunny> How do I get Ubuntu to play non-pirated DVDs?
[13:36] <ikonia> loconut: stop using /dev/sdX then
[13:36] <ikonia> loconut: use the uuid's
[13:36] <ikonia> !dvd | KittyBunny
[13:36] <AnttiM> r0gue: I tried running Ubuntu Live on another computer, and this time it got to a graphical loading screen, but then got a message something like ... mounting failed
[13:36] <KittyBunny> Oh shit
[13:36] <KittyBunny> k
[13:37] <KittyBunny> no wonder
[13:37] <KittyBunny> ikonia: Thanks :)
[13:37] <ikonia> KittyBunny: tone the language down, you KNOW the rules
[13:37] <loconut> ikonia, they all have the same uuid as i showed in the one blkid post.. so im missing something
[13:37] <KittyBunny> I knew something was missing.
[13:37] <AnttiM> r0gue: yeah, (initramfs) aufs mount failed
[13:37] <ikonia> loconut: that's fine, you have a uuid for the end device, specify the block idea 4 times (or however many, I forget) and it should be able to work it out from the final device block id
[13:38] <KittyBunny> YES
[13:38] <AnttiM> what does this mean?
[13:38] <KittyBunny> ikonia: Thanks again :)
[13:38] <hacktosh> please ??
[13:38] <LSymonds> hacktosh: What is the problem?
[13:38] <AnttiM> I am now at some kind of command line prompt
[13:39] <freakynl> loconut: i've been using my mdadm.conf for many years across many ubuntu versions...
[13:39] <AnttiM> (initramfs) _
[13:39] <hacktosh> LSymonds: How to get lost movies with photorec on IPod Touch. On my PC photorec don't find my IPod Touch ...
[13:39] <loconut> seems like that's trusting it to get it right and auto detect. It would autodetect the disks in the array, but again, in the wrong order.
[13:39] <freakynl> loconut: don't forget to update the initramfs tho' otherwise any change you make won't make a difference
[13:39] <ikonia> loconut: how many times
[13:39] <ikonia> loconut: you're not using the UUID's so
[13:39] <ikonia> loconut: use the uuid's it WILL auto detect
[13:40] <|Long|> good morning folks, on 11.10, how can i fix bootup error msg on
[13:40] <|Long|> NX server is disable in /usr/nx/etc/node.cfg
[13:40] <|Long|> trying to start NX server
[13:40] <|Long|> NX: 500 service already running
[13:40] <|Long|> NX: 999 bye
[13:40] <FloodBot1> |Long|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <LSymonds> hacktosh: try sudo apt-get install ipheth-utils
[13:40] <On|ine> hello all
[13:40] <KittyBunny> ikonia: Is it possible for me to set the region to 0 just in case?
[13:41] <KittyBunny> I know it says I can set the regian.
[13:41] <ikonia> KittyBunny: I'm not helping you crack DVD's
[13:41] <KittyBunny> k
[13:41] <loconut> we're on the wrong wavelength and making eachother angry. I'm trying to say without the devices line and leaving the first line as is (ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid6 num-devices=5 UUID=df973b4c:69f7f90d:a706bb1d:144caffb) and there is a DEVICE partitions line a couple lines up, it assembles incorrectly.
[13:41] <Guest24016> hi, i notice that on ubuntu you can resize screens by moving to the left and right corner. is there a way to resize by moving to the top or the bottom?
[13:41] <hrolf> Is there any keyboard shortcut in Ubuntu for achieving something similar to dragging a window to the sides (left and right) and it automatically expands to half of the size of the screen?
[13:41] <ikonia> loconut: I fully understand that
[13:41] <hacktosh> LSymonds: Ok and after ?
[13:41] <ikonia> loconut: stop using /dev/sd$ and start using the UUID's and it WILL detect it correctly
[13:41] <|Long|> can someone plz help
[13:42] <freakynl> loconut: did you update-initramfs?
[13:42] <KittyBunny> ikonia: OMG! thanks you! It's working!
[13:42] <LSymonds> hacktosh: Have a look here: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[13:42] <AnttiM_> I'm at a command line prompt that says (initramfs) _ How do I get to the Ubuntu GUI?
[13:42] <Guest24016> hrolf, we have almost the same doubt! :)
[13:42] <hrolf> Guest24016: which doubt?
[13:42] <qxt_> AnttiM_ if this is a normal disto "startx"
[13:42] <ikonia> he's in initramfs - startx will not work
[13:43] <loconut> ok and all the UUIDs are the same, so devices=uuid=df973b4c-69f7-f90d-a706-bb1d144caffb, uuid=df973b4c-69f7-f90d-a706-bb1d144caffb ... up to the number of disks or something thereabouts? but how is that helping it determine the order if the uuids are the same.
[13:43] <ikonia> he's not booted, he's in the init space
[13:43] <loconut> that's the part i'm not getting
[13:43] <hacktosh> LSymonds: ok tkx i'll go to take a look on that now
[13:43] <Guest24016> hrolf, you are asking about resize the screen by moving to top or bottom...
[13:43] <AnttiM_> qxt_: /bin/sh: startx: not found
[13:43] <ikonia> loconut: I give in - you're not listening, it WILL detect the right order because it's got the end device uuid,
[13:43] <AnttiM_> I'm trying to use Ubuntu Live from USB drive
[13:43] <freakynl> hmm k. where the disks previously in another raid said, possibly with other version superblocks? That has bitten me before...
[13:43] <Newbeeans> Is there even software for the touch function for touchsmarts? I don't want to waste time on something that doesn't exist
[13:44] <ikonia> freakynl: that's the most liklkey
[13:44] <loconut> im trying to ask how to format the devices line with the uuids
[13:44] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to change the bg from the terminal in 11.10?
[13:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:44] <qxt_> AnttiM_ Try Ctrl+Alt+F7 if that does not work try Ctrl+Alt+print screen+b
[13:45] <loconut> I mentioned if i remove the devices line, it gets it wrong, so there must be a better way to specify it.
[13:45] <freakynl> unfortunately it would require trashing the raid to recover from that by running mdadm --zero-superblock <every device in there>
[13:45] <loconut> using the uuids as you mentioned.
[13:45] <|Long|> how can i fix to boot back to GUI again,,, now i am stuck at bootup error msg on NX server is disable in /usr/nx/etc/node.cfg
[13:45] <|Long|> from ssh screen
[13:48] <qxt_> ikonia, whats going on with the # ?
[13:48] <hrolf> Guest24016: Nope I don't.
[13:48] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[13:48] <ikonia> qxt_: the system is not booting, so it's booting into the initramfs
[13:48] <AnttiM> First I got to a graphical load screen, and then I got to some command line prompt
[13:48] <hacktosh> LSymonds: Sorry but how to use ipheths (i'm not English so i've some problem to understand all explications) after installation how i can start the software ?
[13:48] <qxt_> ikonia, I mean with everybody getting booted
[13:48] <ikonia> qxt_: that is a netsplit
[13:49] <qxt_> ikonia, ahh
[13:49] <kamilnadeem> ikonia is this a rule or code of conduct that every Ubuntu IRC users has to follow ?
[13:49] <ikonia> kamilnadeem: yes
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:50] <kamilnadeem> ikonia: Thanks you , I will keep it in mind.
[13:50] <dr_willis> !coc >  kamilnadeem
[13:50] <kamilnadeem> ubottu: checking it
[13:50] <hacktosh> how to use Ipheth ? please somebody help.
[13:50] <dr_willis> ubottu:  is a bot. :)
[13:50] <qxt_> BluesKaj, Hiiii BLUE. I am computerholic too!
[13:51] <qxt_> Jezzz this # is nuts. L8r
[13:51] <szal> lol
[13:51] <dr_willis> seems a normal day to me.
[13:52] <AnttiM-> aufs mount failed -- what does it mean
[13:55] <zxiest> Hello everyone
[13:55] <zxiest> Assuming I attached /dev/sdf to my Ubuntu, how can I access the files on it/
[13:55] <ikonia> mount it
[13:55] <zxiest> ikonia it is mounted...
[13:56] <ikonia> zxiest: then open the file manager and look at where it's mounted
[13:56] <Fuchs> zxiest: /mount (-t filesystem) /dev/sdfn /media/someexistingfolder
[13:56] <Fuchs> zxiest: mount without an argument should show you where it is mounted
[13:56] <zxiest> Fuchs I see ... I have a virtual instance on EC2 .. I'll check where it's mounted =) Thanks :-)
[13:57] <zxiest> ikonia I will see where the file manager for my instance is.. Thanks! :-)
[13:57] <AnttiM> Can anyone tell me what's this aufs mount failed error and how to get past it?
[13:58] <AnttiM> I'm trying to run Ubuntu from a USB drive
[13:58] <unkr> AnttiM: does it boot ??
[13:58] <AnttiM> yes
[13:58] <kamilnadeem> Can anyone using chrome/chromium check that this site http://brasscrescent.org/ opening correctly ?
[13:58] <AnttiM> first I get to a graphical load screen and then I get a message: "(initramfs) aufs mount failed
[13:59] <AnttiM> what does it mean?
[13:59] <unkr> AntiiM: how to make the usb bootable   ?  via unetbootin??
[13:59] <AnttiM> yes
[13:59] <Toph2> Kamiccolo,,, works for me
[14:00] <AnttiM> I used UNetbootin
[14:01] <unkr> AnttiM: ok
[14:01] <dr_willis> AnttiM:  you may want to try some other tools at pendrivelinux, or just dd the iso file to a flash drive.  could be unetbootin dident make the flash right. OR it could be a bad iso file. You did check its md5sum?
[14:02] <AnttiM> I already have tried three different usb creators, two different iso files and two different usb sticks
[14:02] <dr_willis> did you CHECK the md5's ?
[14:02] <AnttiM> how
[14:02] <dr_willis> !md5
[14:03] <dr_willis> for 11.10 you can  image the iso file to a flash drive also. if you have some sort of 'dd' tool for whatever os you are using.
[14:03] <AnttiM> dd tool?
[14:05] <unkr> AnttiM: use  dd if=<iso location>  of= /dev/sdb  (for usb)
[14:05] <dr_willis> assuming you are on linux.. and your flash is sdb..
[14:05] <AnttiM> I'm on Windows
[14:05] <dr_willis> if thats all jibberish to you.. then i suggest you dont use dd.
[14:05] <dr_willis> there are similer tools for windows.
[14:06] <rigved> there should not be any spaces after of=
[14:06] <unkr> rigved: true
[14:06] <unkr> rigved: that was a typo
[14:07] <unkr> AnttiM: my suggestion will be try that flash drive on another system and see if its works or not
[14:08] <harsh343> I got an error Message: The PDO extension is required for this adapter but the extension is not loaded  what i can do ?
[14:08] <rigved> unkr: ya, thought so; just saying for the person who you helping :)
[14:08] <harsh343>  how can i install php-pdo
[14:08] <harsh343>  I am using ubuntu 11.10
[14:09] <unkr> rigved: no problem ;)
[14:09] <guerrero> how can i a wireless network pliz someone help mee
[14:10] <guerrero> i want to transmit mi internet via network card plz helppp
[14:10] <hanthana> can we have remastersys package in Ubuntu repos?
[14:11] <guerrero> how can i transmit mi internet via wireless cardddddddd
[14:11] <AnttiM> unkr: it has a valid hash
[14:12] <AnttiM> and this is already the second system I'm trying this on
[14:12] <Newbeeans> While trying to correct audio issue I get: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[14:12] <unkr> AnttiM: ok
[14:12] <guerrero> can some one help me pliz?
[14:13] <jrib> !helpme | guerrero
[14:13] <jrib> !wireless | guerrero
[14:14] <guerrero> that page i did all that it said and still i cant find a wireless network
[14:14] <guerrero> !wireless
[14:14] <guerrero> !helpme
[14:14] <yeats> !bot | guerrero
[14:15] <thegladiator> How do I copy all the music from my ipod
[14:15] <guerrero> !bot
[14:15] <yeats> guerrero: use /msg ubottu to play with the bot
[14:15] <curfont> I have two interfaces (dual gigabit, forcedeth driver), how to I configure metrics so internet works correctly when both are enabled? (If both are running as dhcp internet goes really slowly)
[14:17] <rigved> hanthana: remastersys development had stopped. I had read that it is being developed again, but there is no version as of now. once a new version is released, i suppose it will get included.
[14:17] <rigved> *no new version
[14:17] <BluesKaj> guerrero, did you run , sudo dhclient wlano
[14:18] <BluesKaj> wlan0
[14:18] <__james___> hey guys, ive accidently removed my only sudo user from root.  I want to shutdown my pc safely to avoid any damage to my harddrives, any ideas?
[14:19] <jrib> __james___: use the gui to shutdown your computer
[14:19] <__james___> jrib: im on ubuntu server
[14:19] <jrib> __james___: then you probably can't shut it down
[14:19] <__james___> anyone else?
[14:19] <chroot> hi , who can use kvm with command line
[14:20] <jrib> !sysrq | __james___
[14:20] <guerrero> blue kaj it says no suck device
[14:20] <jrib> __james___: that's probably your best bet
[14:20] <Newbeeans> Following this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules I get failed to launch ppa or failed to fetch
[14:20] <yeats> chroot: what's your actual question?
[14:21] <chroot> i installed kvm on my server, but i can't create a vm on server through command line
[14:21] <zxiest> I have /tmp/directory ... I edit my fstab to contain: /dev/sdf        /tmp/directory    auto    defaults,nobootwait,noatime     0 when I reboot, /tmp/directory doesn't exist anymore. Any clue?
[14:21] <yeats> chroot: are you ssh-ing in?
[14:21] <__james___> jrib: cheers
[14:22] <chroot> the ubuntu docmentation said use vmbuilder , but it dosen/t work
[14:22] <chroot> i telnet in
[14:22] <chroot> yeats, have you ever installed kvm or qemu on your machine
[14:22] <yeats> chroot: can you ssh?  If so, can access the GUI by doing  'ssh -XC user@vm-host' and doing 'virt-manager' once logged in
[14:23] <yeats> chroot: I have
[14:23] <yeats> chroot: this assumes that the machine you're running has X on it
[14:23] <Newbeeans> Nvrmind on that I added other sources now terminal is fetching
[14:24] <Newbeeans> Nope no they are not! :))
[14:24] <chroot> yeats, i can ssh
[14:25] <chroot> and now i am sshed in server
[14:25] <chroot> but virt-manager is a gui tool,
[14:25] <chroot> can ssh work with gui?
[14:26] <yeats> chroot: if you do 'ssh -XC' ('X' means add X forwarding, 'C' means compress it)
[14:26] <yeats> chroot: and if the machine you're connecting from has X installed
[14:27] <chroot> yes, i installed desktop on server already
[14:27] <yeats> chroot: okay - then give it a go
[14:27] <chroot> wow, the virt-manager appeared,
[14:27] <yeats> chroot: :-)
[14:28] <unkr> yeats: by doing -XC  what happens ??
[14:28] <rigved> yeats: just a side-note. ssh -Y is more secure than ssh -X.
[14:29] <chroot> yeats, one more question, if i want to install a VM  through command line? how should i do?
[14:30] <thegladiator> How do I copy all the music from my ipod
[14:31] <yeats> chroot: I haven't used the command line tools all that much actually
[14:31] <yeats> chroot: I've used virsh, but only to see what's running
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> virtual shell?
[14:32] <chroot> ok, fine,  but i got errors  when i open the virt-manager on my machine?
[14:32] <yeats> MonkeyDust: it's for KVM
[14:32] <chroot> it say can't create vm
[14:32] <yeats> !kvm
[14:32] <yeats> chroot: does it give a reason?
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> I use vbox
[14:33] <yeats> MonkeyDust: I do too
[14:33] <_calum> hi guys, I got a problem, I cannot format a flash drive back to FAT32. When I put it in windows it says unable to format. Ubuntu format won't get it back to FAT32
[14:33] <yeats> MonkeyDust: KVM is more for server virtualization
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> ok
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> like XEN?
[14:33] <chroot> Unable to complete install: 'internal error unable to start guest: char device redirected to /dev/pts/3
[14:33] <chroot> open /dev/kvm: Permission denied
[14:34] <yeats> MonkeyDust: yep, but built natively into the Linux kernel
[14:34] <chroot> error, like this
[14:34] <yeats> chroot: have you checked permissions?
[14:35] <yeats> unkr: if you 'ssh -X' into a box running X, you can run X programs from the machine your ssh-ing from (-C compresses the connection)
[14:35] <chroot> crw-rw----+ 1 root kvm 10, 232 2011-11-13 06:03 kvm
[14:35] <chroot> i got this
[14:37] <unkr> yeats: the graphic will be display to the client system ??
[14:37] <unkr> yeats: whose connecting to the KVM system?
[14:37] <zxiest> why would i get this message when I try to mount? mount: special device /dev/sdf does not exist
[14:38] <chroot> unkr, no , only the window of the application
[14:38] <yeats> unkr: yes
[14:38] <yeats> unkr: doesn't have to be KVM - it works anywhere X is running
[14:38] <zxiest> the command I tried was: mount /dev/sdf /tmp/blabla , and /tmp/blabla exists
[14:39] <yeats> chroot: you might need to be running it with sudo/gksudo
[14:39] <__james___> jrib: just rebooted now the terminal is just blinking , anyideas?
[14:39] <Guest61030> Hi, is there a list somewhere that contains only the minimal packages that should be installed on a Ubuntu 11.10 desktop system?
[14:39] <Guest61030> Also, how does one obtain a list of all the packages installed on a system?
[14:39] <unkr> yeats: okk now i understand  and what about -Y option that "rigved" is saying about security?
[14:39] <jrib> __james___: you need to boot to recovery mode and create a new user anyway, can you get to recovery mode?
[14:40] <yeats> chroot: in the work environments we (ahem) run virt-manager as root, but that's not recommended practice in this channel ;-)
[14:40] <__james___> jrib: the grub doesnt seem to be loading ...
[14:40] <yeats> unkr: I've not used it - will investigate
[14:40] <jrib> __james___: does grub display menu by default?
[14:40] <Newbeeans> All my packages fail. How do I update source list?
[14:40] <unkr> yeats: okk :)
[14:40] <__james___> jrib: usually yes
[14:40] <jrib> Newbeeans: be more specific.  What does "fail" mean?
[14:41] <_calum> never mind, solved my flash drive problem, its working now :)
[14:41] <brjannc> Guest61030: you can take a look at the ubuntu-desktop package, it's a metapackage that depends on all the things that make up the standard desktop
[14:41] <__james___> jrib: now nothing seems to be loading
[14:41] <zxiest> guys, if something is "sda1" on 1 computer, could it be "sdf" on another?
[14:41] <Newbeeans> jrib: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[14:41] <yeats> zxiest: yes
[14:41] <bugweed> hi, need help. how do i revert to gtk2 on Ubuntu 11.10. and when i say revert to gtk2, i mean, gtk2, not gnome-session-fallback.
[14:41] <zxiest> yeats cool thanks :-)
[14:41] <jrib> Newbeeans: that ppa does not exist for oneiric
[14:42] <zxiest> yeats any idea if I'm trying to mount and I get "mount: special device /dev/sdf does not exist", what would that mean?
[14:42] <Newbeeans> jrib: oh I'm trying to get audio to work.
[14:42] <Guest61030> brjannc: so if I delete all the packages on my desktop except the ones that are dependencies for ubuntu-desktop, I will be fine?
[14:42] <jrib> Newbeeans: ask your actual question
[14:42] <yeats> bugweed: there's not a (supported) way that I'm aware of
[14:42] <jrib> __james___: boot a live cd and check things out with grub configuration
[14:42] <brjannc> Guest61030: Well, "fine" is a relative term ;)
[14:42] <Newbeeans> How do I get sound on an HP touchsmart300?
[14:43] <Guest61030> brjannc: also, do you know how I can get a list of all the packages installed?
[14:43] <yeats> zxiest: probably needs to be /dev/sdf1 ?  you can 'sudo fdisk -l' to see whats available to mount
[14:43] <unkr> zxiest: check fdisk -l  whether the sdf present or not then mount it
[14:43] <brjannc> Guest61030: In general I recommend against wholesale removal of lots and lots of packages, as it can make things weird if everything doesn't go as planned
[14:43] <zxiest> yeats unkr cool, thanks :-)
[14:43] <yeats> Guest61030: 'dpkg -l | grep ii'
[14:44] <_calum> woop! Ubuntu fixed my flash drive where windows couldn't :)
[14:44] <yeats> _calum: that's true of many things! ;-)
[14:44] <meera> hi, why does the fentylator always run? Instad of print something my pc does not proberly work. And Hd is full of rubish how can I clean it the best way?
[14:44] <brjannc> Guest61030: yep, dpkg --get-selections
[14:44] <_calum> :)
[14:45] <zxiest> yeats and unkr thank you very much :-) drive name was xvdf =)
[14:46] <brjannc> Guest61030: Why do you want to nuke all the packages except the base install?
[14:46] <unkr> zxiest: :)
[14:46] <Guest61030> brjannc: well I have a program that is not working right, and it is only since I upgraded to 11.10, so I think it is some conflict with some non-core packages
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> why easy if you can do it the hard way too ;)
[14:47] <bugweed> bump
[14:47] <unkr> Guest61030: program name ?
[14:47] <Guest61030> unkr: wxmacmolplt
[14:47] <brjannc> Guest61030: What program? That solution may be overkill :)
[14:47] <Guest61030> It is from a separate repository
[14:48] <Guest61030> brjannc: the program is wxmacmolplt
[14:48] <unkr> Guest61030: dont know about the program but may be it is not compiled for 11.10
[14:48] <brjannc> Guest61030: ah, okay. Installed from source, or a deb from a ppa/website?
[14:48] <Guest61030> unkr: I tried compiling it from source and it still does not
[14:49] <Guest61030> does not work
 I am Tying this but not able to install php-pdo
 harsh@harsh-3000:~$ sudo pecl install pdo
 WARNING: "pecl/PDO" is deprecated in favor of "channel://http://svn.php.net/viewvc/php/php-src/trunk/ext/pdo//ext/PDO"
 I want to install php pdo but not able to do that
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/~brett/MacMolPlt/
[14:49] <FloodBot1> harsh343: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <Guest61030> brjannc: I tried both, same behavior
[14:49] <_calum> Can Ubuntu fix windows viruses too? I don't have one, just wondering
[14:49] <unkr> Guest61030: what is the error??
[14:49] <Guest61030> unkr: It suffers from a segmentation fault
[14:50] <brjannc> Guest61030: have access to gdb?
[14:50] <Guest61030> unkr: It gives a segmentation fault
[14:50] <Guest61030> brjannc: Yes
[14:51] <unkr> Guest61030: it installed without any dependencies error ??
[14:51] <Guest61030> unkr: that is correct
[14:51] <Guest61030> unkr: Is there a way I can look at a package and figure out what its dependencies are?  Maybe I should just reinstall its dependencies
[14:51] <brjannc> Guest61030: if you're familiar with gdb, would you pastebin a backtrace? (if not familiar, say so and i'll walk you through it)
[14:51] <Newbeeans> How do I get sound on an HP touchsmart 300 ?
[14:52] <unkr> Guest61030: the package is in  tar or gz format ??
[14:52] <Guest61030> brjannc: I don't know how to use gdb with this program, I compiled and installed it with a configure script and make file
[14:52] <d33ck> i'm having trouble installing gcc. this is what apt throw at me : gcc : Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.6.0-3ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[14:52] <d33ck> can someone help me at this?
[14:52] <Guest61030> unkr: It is a Debian package, the source is a .tar.gz file
[14:52] <elgaton> d33ck: sudo apt-get install -f
[14:53] <d33ck> elgaton: hold on
[14:53] <brjannc> Guest61030: okay, in a terminal window type     gdb /path/to/program    (replace with the actual path to the program)
[14:53] <d33ck> elgaton: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:53] <Guest61030> brjannc: okay
[14:53] <optim> ciao
[14:53] <d33ck> elgatonL nothing happens
[14:53] <Guest61030> It said: Reading symbols from /usr/bin/wxmacmolplt...(no debugging symbols found)...done.
[14:53] <brjannc> Guest61030: then you'll be at a gdb prompt. type    run    and it should start running, then segfault and drop you back to the gdb prompt. type    bt    and pastebin the output
[14:53] <optim> !list
[14:54] <brjannc> Guest61030: ick, no debug symbols... backtrace may not be super helpful, but i'll still take a look
[14:54] <d33ck> is it because i messed up my sources.list file?
[14:54] <Guest61030> brjannc: how do I pastebin?
[14:54] <vooze> I want to dualboot but i dont any dvds.. but i have my External harddiske.. can i install windows from this? And what tool do i need?
[14:54] <elgaton> d33ck: I don't think so. Let's remove the package lists and download them again, anyway:
[14:54] <qxt> this is just retarded! I need to stop gdm. "sudo service gdm stop" does not work? How do you stop gdm in Ubuntu?
[14:55] <brjannc> !pastebin
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Guest61030: command|pastbinit
[14:55] <unkr> Guest61030: after uncompress the file   use "make" at last if it display any kind of error that means there is a dependency problem
[14:55] <himitsu> guys, ubuntu can't see my hard drive
[14:55] <nibbler_> hi. how do i get skype on 11.10/64?
[14:55] <himitsu> my second one
[14:55] <Guest61030> command|bastbinit
[14:55] <Guest61030> command|pastbinit
[14:55] <d33ck> elgaton: how to remove the package lists
[14:55] <nibbler_> himitsu, it sees another one on the same controller?
[14:55] <unkr> himitsu: what is the filesystem??
[14:55] <brjannc> Guest61030: you'll have to copy/paste, since you're inside gdb at the moment. copy the text and go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:55] <nibbler_> qxt, /etc/init.d/gdm stop should work, kill/killall/pkill aswell
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest61030: in a terminal, for example: df -h|pastebinit - you then get a url - paste it here
[14:56] <Neldogz> Has anyone experienced a problem with Thunderbird where the import options are completely missing? I am running version 7.0.1 and when i select Tools --> Import -->Mail  all options are missing.
[14:56] <brjannc> MonkeyDust: he can't pipe, the output i'm after is from gdb
[14:57] <elgaton> d33ck: cd /var/lib/apt/lists && rm * && sudo apt-get update
[14:57] <qxt> The reason I need to stop gdm is when I go to a virtual console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) I am need to first to stop gdm then hit "Xorg -configure" then move that new xorg.conf file to /etc/X11/
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> ok, think i missed something
[14:57] <Guest61030> Okay I think this is it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/737284/
[14:57] <brjannc> Guest61030: bah, yeah, no symbols. Unfortunately useless :\
[14:58] <himitsu> How can I mount a partition that I can't see in /dev/disk?
[14:58] <zxiest> himitsu do fdisk -l to see the partitions you have :-)
[14:58] <bastidrazor> himitsu: can you see it in 'sudo fdisk -l'?
[14:58] <compdoc> himitsu, fdisk -l doesnt work?
[14:58] <compdoc> heh
[14:58] <brjannc> Guest61030: To see the dependencies of that deb you downloaded, you can do    dpkg-deb -I <debfile>
[14:59] <zxiest> So my system is stopping when there's a partition that's not found and is asking me to press a key to continue. Is there a way to continue by default?
[14:59] <d33ck> elgaton: okay, letme try that first
[14:59] <_calum> If I make a backup with clonezilla, put it on a flash drive then move it to another computer, can I then restore it after putting it back on the USB drive?
[14:59] <qxt> nibbler_ All I can say about Gnome 3 and Unity is what Linus Torvalds says "If you make a system for idiots then only idiots will use it"
[15:00] <codehotter> Dear ubuntu support. I want to set the IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE environment variable to nothing. Where can I configure this? When I open a new terminal and enter "env" it shows it's IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE=1
[15:00] <codehotter> but I can't find out where it is set
[15:00] <brjannc> codehotter: do you want to set it just once, for one terminal session, or forever?
[15:00] <codehotter> forever
[15:00] <compdoc> _calum, not sure what you mean by "after putting it back on the USB drive" but clonezilla does work. Of course its sometimes a god idea to practice with it.
[15:01] <brjannc> codehotter: open up ~/.bash_profile with gedit or your favorite editor, then add     unset IBUS_ENABLE_SYNC_MODE
[15:01] <nibbler_> qxt, what are you discussing? thought it was about gdm....
[15:01] <_calum> compdoc: say I delete the image from usb to free space on usb, then put the image back, can clonezilla still restore it?
[15:02] <Guest61030> Oh, also, is there a way to get rid of the popout scroll arrows on the right side of the terminal, and instead have the pre-11.10 scrollbar?
[15:02] <compdoc> _calum, oh, you are coping the image somewhere else?
[15:02] <compdoc> copying
[15:02] <_calum> compdoc:Yeah to another pc
[15:02] <compdoc> should be fine
[15:02] <codehotter> brjannc: OK, that will solve my problem. What about my curiosity: the variable must be unset by default. Where is it set?
[15:02] <_calum> compdoc:Ok thanks :)
[15:02] <brjannc> codehotter: once you've done that, you'll need to log out and log back in
[15:03] <qxt> nibbler_ the whole idea behind the so called non "Traditional Desktop Metaphor"
[15:04] <dr_willis> l';[
[15:04] <qxt> LOL coworkers just explained in this video why Ubuntu is the way it is LOL! www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXRjmyJFzrU
[15:04] <Neldogz> Has anyone experienced a problem with Thunderbird where the import options are completely missing? I am running version 7.0.1 and when i select Tools --> Import -->Mail  all options are missing.
[15:05] <brjannc> codehotter: trying to find that out :)
[15:05] <Guest61030> brjannc: Okay could this be a problem?  I noted that the wxmacmolplt has libc6 as a dependency, and so I tried to reinstall it with apt-get install --reinstall libc6 and I got the error: E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[15:05] <Newbeeans> Should I follow this advise: http://shanky.org/2011/09/26/ubuntu-and-hp-touchsmart-sound/
[15:05] <Newbeeans> To correct no audio
[15:06] <acer_> anybody here?
[15:07] <d33ck> elgaton:yup its my sources.list file that messed up. i put back the original sources.list from the installation and update. everything back to normal
[15:07] <brjannc> Guest61030: that is a little odd
[15:07] <d33ck> thanks elgaton
[15:07] <Guest61030> brjannc: The same thing happened when I tried to reinstall libgcc1
[15:08] <elgaton> d33ck: If you paste the sources.list file on pastebin, maybe I'll be able to determine which was the problematic row
[15:08] <AnttiM> unkr?
[15:08] <Guest61030> brjannc: It is happening whenever I try to reinstall any program, it seems
[15:08] <brjannc> codehotter: I'm not finding much, sorry
[15:08] <brjannc> Guest61030: are those packages actually installed in the first place?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> Guest61030, what command are you using to reinstall?
[15:09] <AnttiM> when formatting a usb drive into ext4, should I make a partition first, or just format the entire device?
[15:10] <brjannc> Guest61030: oh, is this a 64-bit system?
[15:10] <Guest61030> brjannc: yes
[15:10] <Tixos> hi, can someone tell me if i can install older ubuntu Catalyst builds on 11.10 ?
[15:10] <bugweed> hi, anyone knows how to revert gtk3 to gtk2 on ubuntu?
[15:10] <Guest61030> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[15:10] <brjannc> Guest61030: If so you'll need to specify each architecture, e.g. apt-get install --reinstall libc6:amd64 libc6:i386
[15:11] <Guest61030> brjannc: I get the same error
[15:11] <codehotter_> How to set an environment variable in my GRAPHICAL session?
[15:11] <boldfilter> bugweed, oh if we only could....
[15:11] <codehotter_> brjannc's suggestion only helps for terminal applications
[15:11] <unkr> codehotter_: use env
[15:12] <bugweed> boldfilter: means we can't :( sigh.. i need it badly. gnome-session-fallback is useless
[15:12] <codehotter_> unkr: I want to set it permanently, for my next login.
[15:12] <unkr> codehotter_: to see all the environment and the use set env <variable name>
[15:12] <boldfilter> xfce? maybe budweed
[15:12] <german> hi, ubuntu has updated to 10.11 today, now is a little slow
[15:12] <zjbpku> hello
[15:12] <LSymonds> bugweed: install kubuntu
[15:12] <zjbpku> i have a question
[15:13] <brjannc> Guest61030: try just one at a time? apt-get install --reinstall libc6:amd64, then ... libc6:i386   maybe it's just one of them freaking out?
[15:13] <german> glass efect on unity and desktop change
[15:13] <elgaton> !ask | zjbpku
[15:13] <german> how can i configure that?
[15:13] <zjbpku> how to use tweak?
[15:13] <boldfilter> xubuntu-desktop bugweed
[15:13] <ziggyfish> quick question, how do I restart IP tables in ubuntu? I need to do some complicated firewall changes, that I can't do with ufw
[15:13] <bekks> german: there is no 10.11 - do you mean 11.10?
[15:13] <bugweed> LSymonds: that is not actually what i need.
[15:13] <elgaton> zjbpku: Do you mean GNOME Tweak tool?
[15:13] <bugweed> boldfilter: does it support compiz, etc?
[15:13] <german> 11.10 sorry
[15:13] <zjbpku> yes
[15:14] <boldfilter> I am not sure
[15:14] <Guest61030> brjannc: I get the same error for each one separately, too
[15:14] <brjannc> codehotter_: oh -- you may have to put it in ~/.bashrc rather than ~/.bash_profile -- sorry
[15:14] <codehotter_> brb
[15:14] <brjannc> Guest61030: that is... strange. one moment
[15:15] <elgaton> zjbpku: Install it from the terminal (sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool) and run it with gnome-tweak-tool from the terminal
[15:15] <zjbpku> thank you i have to sleep,tomorrow is busy.
[15:15] <bekks> german: And you want to configure what exactly?
[15:15] <zjbpku> thank you !
[15:15] <zjbpku> i got it
[15:15] <german> im trying to set it fast as it was
[15:16] <elgaton> zjbpku: You're welcome :)
[15:16] <pwnguin> Any idea why my clock applet/widget/indicator isn't showing the time in unity?
[15:16] <german> i want to switch off glass efect, and whatever is making desktop switching slow
[15:17] <dr_willis> glass effect? iswent that whats windows 7 has? :)
[15:17] <dr_willis> german:  install/use ccsm and disable effects you dont like perhaps.
[15:17] <himitsu> Is there a way to make sure my hard drive is detected?
[15:17] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[15:17] <german> yes, in search menu
[15:17] <Tixos> hi, can someone tell me if i can install older ubuntu Catalyst builds on 11.10 ?
[15:18] <brjannc> Guest61030: Ugh, bad news, from one of the ubuntu bug reports. Apparently libc6 is special and pretty much refuses to reinstall. Try the :amd64 and :i386 stuff with the other libraries?
[15:18] <brjannc> Guest61030: (it would be pretty unlikely that something's wrong with libc, anyway, otherwise nothing would work ;) )
[15:20] <lubos> hello
[15:20] <lubos> I am czech republic
[15:21] <elgaton> lubos: Do you need support in Czech?
[15:23] <zastaph> If I format a hdd to Ext4 i practically did a fsck at the same time right?
[15:23] <vooze> Is it at all not possible to burn a iso image (windows7) to a usb-drive from linux?
[15:24] <bekks> Yes.
[15:24] <Tixos> any ubuntu staff in ?
[15:25] <boldfilter> ya, sup
[15:25] <compdoc> you want to lodge a complaint?
[15:25] <dr_willis> vooze:  if you are refering to putting a 11.10 iso on a usb.. you can use the dd command to image it to a usb.
[15:25] <Tixos> i want an answer to the question ive been asking for 3 days lol
[15:25] <dr_willis> vooze:  theres alternative tools to convert an iso to a bootable usb setup
[15:25] <boldfilter> nah jk
[15:25] <Tixos> about catalyst builds not working in 11.10
[15:25] <compdoc> Tixos, have you tried the mailing list?
[15:25] <vooze> dr_willis: no, i want to "burn" a WINDOWS iso to usb, from my ubuntu
[15:25] <vooze> for dualboot
[15:25] <bekks> vooze: Yes, thats possible.
[15:25] <Guest61030> brjannc: well I was able to reinstall everything except libc6, libgcc1, libstdc++6 and libgl1-mesa-glx
[15:25] <dr_willis> vooze:   ive heard that windows 7 can be imaged to a usb with dd also.
[15:25] <elz89> vooze: try unetbootin
[15:26] <dr_willis> vooze:  other windows versions.. i dont think so. go ask in #windows about them
[15:26] <Tixos> compdoc: no, i was hoping i could get an answer here
[15:26] <elz89> might also need that thing that came after BartPE, but I don't care for that stuff these days ;-)
[15:26] <dr_willis> unetbootin does not do windows last i checked..
[15:27] <elz89> dr_willis: not without a little pixie dust, no.
[15:27] <Tixos> dr_willis: do you have any idea how i can get hold of older proprietary drivers that Jockey provides?
[15:27] <bekks> dr_willis: btw thats not "burning" but just doing something with an usb ;)
[15:27] <Tixos> instead of the latest i want an older version
[15:27] <dr_willis> bekks:  most likely, you cant..
[15:27] <dr_willis> bekks:  you would have to get the driver/installer from the company web site i imagine.
[15:27] <dr_willis> if its not in the repos.. then jocky wont see/know about it.
[15:28] <bekks> dr_willis: ack.
[15:28] <Guest61030> brjannc: Is there a way to build a package from source using apt-get -b that includes the debugging symbols?
[15:28] <brjannc> Guest61030: Okay, I wouldn't worry about the first three. For the mesa-glx lib, here's a workaround (ignore the mesa-dri package): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/859188/comments/16
[15:28] <dr_willis> same for Tixos  - if you want an older ati driver. you would most likely need to try the installer from the ati web site.
[15:28] <Tixos> but dr_willis there are many reasons ubuntu devs build them for the OS
[15:29] <Tixos> so its this package i want to use
[15:29] <Tixos> they must be around somewhere?
[15:29] <dr_willis> Tixos:  there might be ppa's of older ones..
[15:29] <ssta> Guest61030: often there's a target in debian/rules that leaves debug symbols in.  If not then you can probably edit it and create one
[15:29] <bekks> Tixos: Yes, they are - most likely on the mailing lists.
[15:29] <dr_willis> perhaps ask  on  askubuntu.com .
[15:29] <brjannc> Guest61030: I'm sure there is; unfortunately, I don't do any C development on debian-based systems, so I don't know much about apt and building from source. I know occasionally there are -dbg or -debug packages you can install as alternatives
[15:29] <Tixos> grr
[15:31] <elz89> That bug reminded me of a problem I can't fix right now, I get a foreign-arch message on every apt-get install I do, because once I was following some instructions, didn't use common sence, and marked i368 as foreign. It is not on this particular system, so how can I remove this entry?
[15:31] <himitsu> [18:17] <himitsu> Is there a way to make sure my hard drive is detected?
[15:31] <Guest61030> brjannc: okay I tried what you suggested for the libgl1-mesa-glx package and reinstalled everything that I could and it still doesn't work
[15:31] <Guest61030> urgh
[15:31] <Guest61030> ssta: how might I do that?
[15:31] <brjannc> Guest61030: after reinstalling that many libraries, you'll probably need to reboot before you can adequately test
[15:31] <Guest61030> Okay I will reboot then
[15:33] <ssta> Guest52887: don't use -b, just "apt-get source foo", then go to the debian/ directory and have a look in the rules file (it's a makefile).  LOok and see if there's a debug target.  If so then you can "debian/rules <whatever the debug target is called>"
[15:34] <BrixSat> hello i need help setting up this Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[15:34] <gladosv2> hi guys, when I use 'shutdown' from the menu I have to use it twice and even then it doesn't shut down completely, same with using the shutdown/halt command, it gets stuck just before really shutting down
[15:35] <himitsu> [18:17] <himitsu> Is there a way to make sure my hard drive is detected?
[15:35] <dr_willis> BrixSat:  every time ive ever seen someone mention 'SiS' and linux together.. its rarely good...
[15:35] <BrixSat> dr_willis:  well i supose, i just want to chage the screne resolution to something other then 800*600
[15:36] <brjannc> gladosv2: Any text on the screen while it's hung?
[15:37] <gladosv2> brjannc: quite a lot, but mostly gambled, like starting/stopping services etc
[15:37] <brjannc> gladosv2: does it stop at any particular service that you can tell?
[15:37] <karan> hi
[15:37] <gladosv2> can't really tell I'm afraid brjannc
[15:37] <Guest75461> hi brjannc, unfortunately, the same behavior persists :(
[15:38] <brjannc> gladosv2: Okay. Know how to edit a kernel boot line in the grub menu? We can turn quiet and splash off temporarily, and hope that clears things up a bit so you can see what it's doing
[15:38] <karan> i'm having problems with 11.10. i just upgraded from 11.04, and my system is ALOT  slower performing. for example if i try to drag a window it laggs. the performance is really choppy.
[15:38] <nyuszika7h> Hi, virtual tty's look very weird for me even after applying Plymouth fix from Softpedia.
[15:39] <brjannc> Guest75461: Dang. I don't have too many other ideas to try from here, then :\
[15:39] <karan> even simple things such as opening a new tab in chrome  takes about 34seconds
[15:39] <karan> 4 seconds*
[15:39] <Guest75461> ssta: you wrote earlier that there was a way I could install a package that left debug symbols in, how might I do that?
[15:39] <karan> any ideas
[15:39] <ssta> don't use -b, just "apt-get source foo", then go to the debian/ directory and have a look in the rules file (it's a makefile).  LOok and see if there's a debug target.  If so then you can "debian/rules <whatever the debug target is called>"
[15:40] <gladosv2> brjannc: yep, what should I do?
[15:40] <alex-_> Why doesn't ubuntu merges the mail icon and the username in unity?
[15:40] <zeroplusone> mike are you in there
[15:40] <Guest75461> brjannc: That is okay, thanks for your help anyway
[15:42] <karan> someone please help me
[15:42] <nyuszika7h> This is tty1: http://nyuszika7h.dyndns.org/~nyuszika7h/Screenshots/Screenshot%20at%202011-11-13%2015:41:22.png
[15:42] <brjannc> gladosv2: hit 'e' to edit, and the kernel line i believe ends in something like     quiet splash    so remove those two lines, then ... F10 i think? to boot
[15:42] <nyuszika7h> Anyone having ideas how to fix it?
[15:42] <brjannc> gladosv2: ack, not two lines, two *words* :) remove quiet and splash
[15:44] <Newbeeans> My sound card model is the same as this Tutorial: http://shanky.org/2011/09/26/ubuntu-and-hp-touchsmart-sound/ but I cannot get any audio still. Any suggestions?
[15:44] <grkblood> for some reason my laptop hibernates after 10 minutes when plugged up to my television from the hdmi port. why is this?
[15:45] <elz89> Can aanyone help me to remove a foreign-arch flag?
[15:47] <The_BROS> how to kill noise on photos by using gimp?
[15:48] <tsousa> it's possible to install linux 3.1 on ubuntu 11.10?
[15:48] <tsousa> i have a kernel bug that is only fixed on 3.1
[15:48] <Guest75461> ssta: The -g switch in the CFLAGS variable should control whether debug symbols are turned on or not, right?
[15:49] <elgaton> tsousa: try this (not tested personally): http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/11/how-to-install-kernel-31-on-ubuntu.html
[15:49] <clausen> does anyone know an easy way to test if an ssh pub/priv key pair match?
[15:49] <glebihan> !mainline | tsousa
[15:50] <clausen> (I'm getting a weird error msg when using ssh, "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key.")
[15:50] <Atlantic777> What's the lightest video player? Something smaller than vlc and mplayer?
[15:50] <Phoebus> How do I fix a WUBI drive? I tried explore2fs to access it and it doesn't work. Also it does not boot. I want to save some files from it, and reinstall ubuntu on the whole drive instead. Cheers.
[15:50] <alex-_> I have a nice idea; don't show all the bars on all workspaces
[15:50] <elgaton> Phoebus: Try running Ubuntu from a live CD and run fsck.ext2 on the file
[15:51] <brjannc> The_BROS: try #gimp here on freenode, or #gimp-users on irc.gimp.org
[15:51] <salvatore> hi there someone can tell me why empathy is not connecting to msn messenger?
 Thanx!
[15:51] <brjannc> The_BROS: Sure thing :)
[15:52] <Phoebus> elgaton, cheers, will try that next.
[15:52] <Thompson> salvatore: Check internet connection.
[15:52] <elgaton> Phoebus: You're welcome
[15:52] <mxed> salvatore, msn messenger is not allways connecting with orig client either. made 3 accounts some days ago and  2 of them just stoped to work
[15:52] <xangua> salvatore: because microsoft and msn protocol sucks, but latest pidgin and emesene does conect ;)
[15:52] <salvatore> i suppose that if i am here talkin to u internet connection is workin fine
[15:52] <Thompson> xangua: That's right!
[15:53] <salvatore> so?
[15:53] <salvatore> i cannot use msn in my ubuntu?
[15:53] <salvatore> with empathy i mean
[15:53] <mxed> use other messengers. yes you can use msn when it works on serverside
[15:53] <Thompson> salvatore: Try another IM client. Pidgin, aMSN.
[15:53] <dr_willis> if MSN changed their protocalls again... then there needs to be updates for the linux IM clients..
[15:53] <xangua> salvatore: like i said, you can try pidgin or emesene (need to add the ppa to get latest stable)
[15:54] <dr_willis> theres always meebo.com also
[15:54] <salvatore> pk
[15:54] <salvatore> ok
[15:54] <salvatore> tnx
[15:54] <xangua> salvatore: if you want to use it with empathy, there is an alternative solutuiopn, wanna try¿
[15:54] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:54] <xangua> looks like you don't...
[15:55] <Thompson> Hahaha!
[15:55] <asdjaputra> Hohoho!
[15:56] <Newbeeans> Are there any generic sound settings for audio? I tried specific without luck.
[15:56] <MeirD> Hey
[15:56] <EselKniver> Earlier I got "(EE) No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found." when trying to startx and similar error messages when trying to start gdm, xdm, lightdm through terminal. All this started when I installed nvidia drivers for my laptop. Now when I boot my computer get stuck and if I open a terminal and manually startx or gdm for example ctrl+alt+f7 just gives me a black screen.
[15:56] <Thompson> The_BROS: Use filters, or GIMP FX Foundry.
[15:56] <MeirD> How can I know the running time of a process?
[15:56] <asdjaputra> MeirD, time
[15:56] <EselKniver> No clue where to continue, taking any and all suggestions
 GIMP FX Foundry. What is it?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> EselKniver: which gpu?
[15:57] <EselKniver> graphic card is nvidia GT540M
[15:58] <MeirD> time and process id?
[15:58] <brjannc> gladosv2: How's it going?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> EselKniver: did you install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[15:58] <gladosv2> brjannc: had an urgent phone call coming in, have to handle something first and will check it out later, thank you very much though
[15:58] <brjannc> gladosv2: Oh, no problem. good luck!
[15:59] <gladosv2> thanks :)
[15:59] <EselKniver> ActionParsnip - I have tried installing the ones that Ubuntu suggests, I have tried downloading from nvidias homepage and I have tried apt-get install
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> EselKniver: I suggest you remove all the drivers and reboot to the desktop
[16:00] <unkr> can anyone tell me how to custumise the ubuntu as i want ??
[16:01] <EselKniver> ActionParsnip - apt-get remove --purge nvidia* ?
[16:02] <unkr> can anyone tell mehow to setup up pxeboot server ???
[16:02] <unkr> in ubuntu
[16:03] <pwnguin> anyone know how to replace "time" with the actual time? http://pwnguin.net/albums/v/Misc/Screenshot+at+2011-11-13+10_00_51.png.html
[16:03] <tensorpudding> unkr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> EselKniver: should work, yeah
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> EselKniver: which nvidia chip do you use?
[16:04] <tensorpudding> unkr, might be somewhat more than you need there
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> unkr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[16:04] <unkr> tensorpudding: :) thnx
[16:04] <tensorpudding> unkr, it doesn show you how to setup tftp and pxe on a server
[16:04] <tensorpudding> does*
[16:04] <MeirD> can "ps" have the START TTY with seconds, and miliseconds?
[16:05] <tensorpudding> ignore the nfs part, you just need to set up tftp and dhcp i think for pxe to work
[16:05] <tensorpudding> unless your goal is actually having a thin client
[16:05] <unkr> ActionParsnip: :) thnx
[16:06] <unkr> tensorpudding: r u asking me ??  i dont know how to setup up that
[16:07] <Phoebus> Ok, fixed WUBI, how can I upgrade WUBI to a full install taking over the hdd? And upgrade to the new version. As in what's the beast route to do so?
[16:07] <lcb> Where can i find the list of applications for Software Selection  "Audio recording and editing suite"
[16:07] <pwnguin> ah, good old dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[16:09] <xangua> Phoebus: the best would be to make a fresh real install, ubuntu with it's own partition
[16:09] <elgaton> Phoebus: Agree with xangua but, if you rellay want to transfer the setup, just hold on a minute, I'm finding a guide
[16:10] <xangua> you mean google for him :/
[16:10] <Phoebus> elgaton, no worries I was about to do what xangua says but was going to check first. At least fixed the virtual partition.
[16:10] <elgaton> Phoebus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[16:10] <Phoebus> xangua, already googled was just checking for suggestions really.
[16:10] <EselKniver> ActionParsnip don't know how to answer that question unfortunately, and after removing the drivers I can't even access the terminal =D
[16:11] <elgaton> xangua: Sort of - I remembered an old guide I saw some time ago and wanted to find it back
[16:11] <Phoebus> Yeah, moving the files lol.
[16:11] <Phoebus> Thank you a ton again anyway elgaton :)
[16:12] <elgaton> Phoebus: You're welcome (again) :)
[16:12] <Phoebus> elgaton, next q do I send my cc details? :P
[16:13] <elgaton> Phoebus: no, hanging from time to time in the #ubuntu channels and helping solving bugs filed at Launchpad should be enough :P
[16:14] <Phoebus> elgaton, I do that sometimes. But these days I'm stuck in the army serving my mandatory duty.
[16:14] <elgaton> Phoebus: Just try when you have some spare time :)
[16:15] <Phoebus> elgaton, do info on my nickname, been a part of the freenode and previously known as open-something community for a long time m8.
[16:15] <Phoebus> And, I try.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> EselKniver: if the packages are out you can reboot
[16:17] <elgaton> Phoebus: Sorry if I seemed a bit rude
[16:17] <ubuntu> Currently installing xubuntu 11.10. It says "downloading packages" but it has done so for a long time and it says (147:13 remaining). I tried to click skip, but it didn't do anything. Is there anything I can do?
[16:18] <Phoebus> elgaton, you weren't rude one bit m8 no worries.
[16:19] <harsh343> I m not able to install php PDO
[16:19] <harsh343> how can i install pdo i am using ubuntu11.10
[16:20] <Newbeeans> Can someone walk me through: http://pastebin.com/NAWqS0JE
[16:21] <Newbeeans> I mean fixing the errors shown on pastebin
[16:22] <bekks> Newbeeans: Why exactly are you running gedit as root user?
[16:22] <Newbeeans> bekks: I'm not...but I get that error
[16:22] <Newbeeans> bekks: can I ignore it?
[16:22] <mathi> hi
[16:23] <pisto> hi. I have a problem. the ubuntu installer is trying to install all the possible language packs (I know because I checked the command line of the dpkg process la nched by the installer). It's taking ages for every single package. Is this bug known? any wuick workaround?
[16:23] <bekks> Newbeeans: You are running it as root user, as clearly can be seen in your paste.
[16:23] <mathi> for some reason the sound doesn't work on Ubuntu
[16:23] <mathi> can anyone help?
[16:23] <elgaton> pisto: Let me check
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> pisto: which release?
[16:24] <pisto> ubuntu 11.10 x64 dvd release, from usb flash drive
[16:24] <raptor67682> I saw a very cool PSP mini with keyboard integrated:  http://pocketables.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/24/psp_ux_concept.jpg
[16:24] <Newbeeans> bekks: please see http://pastebin.com/4xrRuzcs
[16:24] <zykotick9_> Newbeeans, everything in that paste suggests you're running gedit as root (with sudo/gksu perhaps?)
[16:24] <Newbeeans> I have the $ sign not #
[16:24] <BluesKaj> mathi, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure none of the ctrl boxes are muted with an "M" , use the "M" key to unmute and the arrow keys to navigate and increase or decrease the volume
[16:24] <Newbeeans> ActionParsnip: told me a couple weeks ago to not access root to much
[16:25] <bekks> Newbeeans: I did. And in exactly that paste it can be seen that you are running gedit as root user.
[16:25] <harsh343> by mistake i can del my etc folder how can i recover this
[16:25] <harsh343> ?
[16:25] <zykotick9_> Newbeeans, DON'T use "sudo" for gui apps!
[16:25] <zykotick9_> !gksu | Newbeeans
[16:25] <xangua> harsh343: reinstall
[16:25] <Newbeeans> I am trying http://shanky.org/2011/09/26/ubuntu-and-hp-touchsmart-sound/comment-page-1/#comment-13335
[16:25] <unkr> how to change the runlevel to single user  while system is booting ????
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Newbeeans: gksudo for gedit dude, not sudo
[16:26] <harsh343> xangua, hows ?
[16:26] <xangua> harsh343: get the ubuntu cs/usb and reinstall
[16:26] <bekks> Newbeeans: What exactly are you trying? I am not going to read some 3rd party forum for you.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> CTRL+ALT+F1 will drop to terminal
[16:26] <harsh343> xangua, is it possible to install through internet
[16:26] <harsh343> ?
[16:27] <harsh343> I have no cd and usb right now
[16:27] <Newbeeans> bekks: I've reading and completed it about 13 times :)) I don't have audio on HP touchsmart with Ubuntu 11.10
[16:27] <bekks> Newbeeans: And why are you running gedit then? What do you want to do with it?
[16:27] <Newbeeans> bekks: I just want sound
[16:27] <unkr> how to change the runlevel to single user  while system is booting ???? plzzz
[16:28] <bekks> Newbeeans: Ok, last chance: which file do you want to edit?
[16:28] <zykotick9_> !runlevels | unkr
[16:29] <Newbeeans> bekks: sorry I'm not trying to anger anyone...I don't really know .... from reading I am suppose to add options snd-hda-intel model=touchsmart to the audio config file
[16:29] <zykotick9_> unkr, debian/ubuntu don't really use runlevels (in the same way other gnu/linux distros do anyways) - what do you want to accomplish?
[16:29] <mathi> BluesKaj, thank you
[16:29] <bekks> Newbeeans: To _which_ file?
[16:30] <Newbeeans> gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:30] <unkr> zykotic9: i used fedora before to get into single user  while system booting i use  ESC and edit to grub to goes into single user
[16:30] <dr_willis> you would need  'gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf'
[16:30] <unkr> zykotic9: why this is not happened in ubuntu ??
[16:30] <dr_willis> unkr:  ubuntu has a 'single' option also i thought.
[16:30] <zykotick9_> !tab > unkr
[16:31] <dr_willis> !single
[16:31] <zykotick9_> unkr, dr_willis i think you mean "text"
[16:31] <KittyBunny> !bob > zykotick9_
[16:31] <dr_willis> text mode is not the same as single user mode.
[16:31] <unkr> zykotick9_,  yaa
[16:31] <Newbeeans> dr_willis: thank you I have the text editor portion open but adding the line suggested by the IT gentleman with my audio card doesn't solve my no sound issue. I did save  but no change
[16:31] <dr_willis> you could also try the 'init=/bin/bash' trick also.
[16:32] <dr_willis> Newbeeans:  you did reboot after making the change?
[16:32] <bekks> Newbeeans: Save it, then restart your computer.
[16:32] <Guest23722> hi! How to install an Ipod Touch like a USB stockage peripheric ? Please I need some help.
[16:32] <Newbeeans> yes
[16:32] <hasan> hi all
[16:32] <unkr> zykotick9_,  !Upstart  whats that ubuntu uses i dont know about it ??
[16:33] <Guest23722> please ??
[16:34] <zykotick9_> unkr, ubuntu replaced init.d/system5 stuff with something called Upstart, new way to call services
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, in alsabase conf , options snd-hda-intel i9ndex=0 , this make soundcard default , save the file ,,,that blog appears not work for you
[16:34] <xangua> Guest23722: you mean with iOS 5¿
[16:34] <unkr> zykotick9_,  okk
[16:35] <BluesKaj> oops, Newbeeans. options snd-hda-intel index=0
[16:36] <Newbeeans> gksudo yes
[16:36] <anth0ny> anyone know of a good browser add-on to make it look like I'm using Windows or Mac?
[16:36] <BluesKaj> anth0ny, hisding linux from the boss ?
[16:36] <xangua> anth0ny: if you mean firefox, search on the addons site
[16:36] <dadino> #impero
[16:37] <zykotick9_> unkr, don't PM people without asking first.  To get the grub2 menu hold SHIFT after bios to get the grub menu - then edit away
[16:37] <KittyBunny> brb fitting a second disc drive.
[16:37] <anth0ny> BlueEagle: ha, no, just sick of websites demanding I use something proprietary
[16:37] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: gksudo gives me an error too Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path:
[16:37] <Newbeeans> Should I delete and start over?
[16:37] <bekks> Newbeeans: Thats not an Error, but a Warning.
[16:38] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, make sure your audio module is listed as 'options snd_nameofmodule index=0' in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf . This setting makes the audio module for your card the system wide default or Card 0 . To find the right module do. 'cat /proc/asound/modules', then do, 'sudo modprobe snd_nameofmodule' , then 'sudo alsa force-reload
[16:38] <unkr> zykotick9_, sorry about pm
[16:38] <unkr> zykotick9_, i dont know that
[16:38] <xangua> anth0ny: you mean user agent switcher¿¿
[16:38] <anth0ny> xangua: have any recommendations about good Firefox add-ons for that?  What should I search for, browser spoofing?
[16:38] <anth0ny> xangua: yup
[16:38] <miadbahrami> how to share repository in local with apache
[16:38] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: this is my card Codec: Analog Devices AD1984A
[16:39] <miadbahrami> how to share repository in local with apache
[16:39] <xangua> anth0ny: then go with the user agent switcher addon
[16:39] <anth0ny> xangua: there we go, that was the keyword
[16:39] <miadbahrami> how to share repository in local with apache
[16:39] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, what does cat /proc/asound/modules , output ?
[16:39] <dadino> !list
[16:40] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: yes
[16:40] <dadino> non ci capisco niente, scusate
[16:40] <elgaton> !it | dadino
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !it | dadino
[16:41] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: my audio index says -2
[16:41] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans,  what did cat /proc/asound/modules , it will have 'snd' in the string
[16:42] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: What I see http://pastebin.com/21BsfEpq
[16:43] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj:  0 snd_hda_intel
[16:46] <tazzer>  hey can you help me last night i changed my password and for some reason it changed it to another password and now a cant get into my ubuntu account i tried to boot up with a root prompt and $passwd username but it gives me an error
[16:46] <bekks> tazzer: Passwords dont change unless the user changes them.
[16:47] <elgaton> tazzer: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[16:47] <elgaton> tazzer: Also, agree with bekks - did someone else change it?
[16:48] <darkknightcz> hi, does someone have some experience with two ip adresses (with different gateway and dns) on one network card?
[16:48] <bekks> darkknightcz: I guess there are people having experience with that.
[16:48] <bekks> darkknightcz: But please just ask your question.
[16:49] <darkknightcz> bekks: ok, so how? :)
[16:49] <tazzer> nope i went to change the password and i might have accidentally cleared the input field and put something in but now i dont know what to do i tried to do everything on  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword but i get an error
[16:49] <BluesKaj> ok Newbeeans , run lspci | grep audio ,and psatebin the otput pls
[16:49] <bekks> darkknightcz: "how" isnt a valid question at that point. What exactly do you want to do, what is your approach, where are you stuck at?
[16:49]  * BluesKaj cleans his glasses
[16:50] <RedAngel> how to use pppoe during minimal ubuntu install
[16:50] <jrib> tazzer: what error... and what were you doing exactly to get it?
[16:51] <tazzer> Authentication Token Manipulation Error is the error i get i tried pwconv but it says that it couldn't lock /etc/passwd
[16:51] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: what is run in Ubuntu?
[16:51] <bekks> tazzer: nopaste the complete error please.
[16:51] <bekks> !nopaste | tazzer
[16:51] <bekks> !paste | tazzer
[16:52] <darkknightcz> bekks: i need to have two different ip adresses - for example ip A (123.123.123.123 with gateway 123.123.123.0  and dns 8.8.8.8 )and ip B (100.100.100.100 with gateway 100.100.100.0 and dns 8.8.4.4), how should i set this up?
[16:52] <BluesKaj> just type , lspci | grep audio , Newbeeans
[16:52] <zykotick9_> tazzer, did you happen to change your computer name (aka host name)?
[16:52] <bekks> darkknightcz: Du to the concept of IP, you cannot setup more than one default gateway.
[16:52] <tazzer> no it was still the same
[16:53] <marko> Iḿ trying to get a package update from oneiric-proposed. I have ticked the box in USC, but update manager does not show any updates.
[16:53] <bekks> And the DNS servers are system-wide, and not related to any network interface.
[16:53] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: I asked because lspci | grep audio just takes me back to my user prompt
[16:53] <darkknightcz> bekks: aand thats exactly what i want to know :), i know that about dns, but i cannot use internal dns for one ip on another... thanks
[16:54] <tazzer> is there a way that i could give another user a root password and copy my files from there so that i could delete my account and start a new
[16:54] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: got it
[16:54] <RedAngel> marko: do u know how to use pppoe-setup for installing ubuntu minimal
[16:54] <jrib> tazzer: you need to answer my question
[16:54] <marko> RedAngel: no
[16:54] <bekks> tazzer: mine too, please :)
[16:55] <miadbahrami> how to share local repository
[16:55] <miadbahrami> how to share local repository with apache
[16:55] <marko> I'm trying to get an update to drivers/net/e1000e
[16:55] <tazzer> crap what were they again
[16:55] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, pastebin your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , pls ...we need to see the indexes and snd modules
[16:55] <bekks> miadbahrami: setup an apache webserver.
[16:55] <dragomir> hi everyone. i have a drive that the bootloader was accidentially deleted. i pulled the drive from the machine, and setup sata to usb on my fedora laptop. all i want to do is backup the data (user folder) then wipe/reload ubuntu to it
[16:55] <RedAngel> I am unable to connect to internet for minimal installation bcoz of pppoe, any ideas
[16:55] <dragomir> can someone please be of assistance? thank you
[16:55] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/ebEGWm7E for LSPCI GREP
[16:55] <miadbahrami> bekks, and ...
[16:55] <miadbahrami> bekks, i setuped it
[16:56] <bekks> miadbahrami: create a virtual host entry pointing to your "local repository".
[16:56] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: Alsa http://pastebin.com/DdHtrR9Z
[16:57] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, lspci | grep audio , don't leave out the |
[16:57] <tazzer> how can i give another account root access
[16:57] <jrib> tazzer: create a new user and add him to the admin group
[16:57] <Newbeeans> BluesKaj: takes me back to my name again
[16:57] <Newbeeans> not info
[16:58] <tazzer> jrib:wouldnt i need the root password?
[16:58] <bekks> tazzer: There is no root password on Ubuntu.
[16:58] <gredja> hi
[16:58] <jrib> tazzer: stop saying root password.  You just need another account who can sudo
[16:58] <bekks> tazzer: You have to use sudo, which requires the _user_ password.
[16:58] <tazzer> ok so how do i set that up
[16:58] <bekks> tazzer: You just have been told.
[16:58] <jrib> tazzer: and you're really just giving a user the ability to sudo, not "root access"
[16:59] <Deadmeow> My Document Viewer make my system hang
[16:59] <Deadmeow> It just stops responding
[16:59] <tazzer> ok thanks how do i give it the ability to sudo
[16:59] <jrib> tazzer: what is "it" in your sentence?
[16:59] <bekks> tazzer: You have been told...
[16:59] <bekks> 1113 175727 < jrib> tazzer: create a new user and add him to the admin group
[17:00] <tazzer> yes i am asking how to make a new user and how to add him to the admin group
[17:00] <Evil_One_> jrib: sudo gpasswd -a username admin
[17:00] <Vertt> Win !
[17:00] <jrib> tazzer: you can use the « users-admin » gui as a current user who can sudo
[17:01] <tazzer> i  am locked out of the user who can use sudo
[17:01] <jrib> tazzer: why?
[17:01] <bekks> jrib: Forgot password ;)
[17:02] <jrib> tazzer: reset the password then?
[17:02] <tazzer> how i already tried
[17:02] <jrib> tazzer: boot into recovery mode and run « passwd YOUR_USERNAME_HERE »
[17:02] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, add this line, " options snd-hda-intel index=0 ", right underneath # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0 . in etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[17:02] <bekks> Insert a livecd, boot it, chroot into your system, change the password.
[17:02] <bekks> Or use the recovery mode.
[17:02] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, without the quotes
[17:03] <Evil_One_> yes, reboot and just after the bios you should press your left shift key
[17:03] <Evil_One_> recovery mode > drop to root prompt
[17:03] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[17:03] <add1ctt> Anyone using XFCE ^
[17:03] <bekks> add1ctt: I am sure someone uses XFCE.
[17:03] <tazzer> i tried and i got an error that said "Authentication Token Manipulation Error"
[17:04] <bekks> tazzer: You tried what exactly? Be more detailed please.
[17:04] <add1ctt> Most probably, uh.
[17:04] <add1ctt> I would like to know how to auto-mount an external HDD located on a machine on my windows network
[17:04] <add1ctt> I cannot add a symlink
[17:05] <tazzer> bekks: i tried what jrib said to reset the password by dropping into a root prompt and typing passwd "username"
[17:05] <Newbeeans> # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0 under that I have options snd-hda-intel index=0 then I saved
[17:05] <bekks> add1ctt: You have to add an entry in your /etc/fstab
[17:05] <bekks> tazzer: Without the quotes.
[17:06] <BluesKaj> Newbeeans, ok good , now reboot
[17:06] <diabolical187> how to upgrade ubuntu 10.4 to backtrack 5 without losing any data ie users, webserver, sql dbs etc]
[17:06] <bekks> diabolical187: This isnt a backtrack support channel.
[17:06] <diabolical187> backtrack is built off of ubuntu, ok
[17:06] <zykotick9_> diabolical187, cross-distro upgrading is impossible (or should be).
[17:06] <bekks> diabolical187: It isnt Ubuntu.
[17:06] <BluesKaj> !backtrack | diabolical187
[17:07] <tazzer> i typed it without the quotes and i got "Authentication Token Manipulation Error" pwconv should have fixed it but then i got an error that said "unable to lock /etc/passwd"
[17:07] <fhtagn> diabolical187: you could keep /home and anything user specific should be kept. But I doubt you configured a webserver in /home, so I dunno...
[17:07] <diabolical187> bekks maybe i just need to add the repos to get the drivers and pentesting
[17:07] <bekks> diabolical187: This is not a backtrack support channel, for the secod time :)
[17:07] <xangua> diabolical187: you want backtrack¿ make a fresh install of backtrack and please stick to the topic: Ubuntu Support
[17:08] <christian__> hello my frindly friends, i have a short quiestion: How can i set the same rights to a new user
[17:08] <diabolical187> fhtsgn: ya a 60 gb webserver and tons of databases isnt worth losing
[17:08] <oCean> diabolical187: use #backtrack-linux for support, please don't continue here
[17:08] <jrib> tazzer: investigate the lines in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow for your user
[17:08] <tazzer> i typed it without the quotes and i got "Authentication Token Manipulation Error" pwconv should have fixed it but then i got an error that said "unable to lock /etc/passwd"
[17:08] <christian__> i just created a new user, but i need him to have the same rights then my private user
[17:08] <bekks> tazzer: Are you in the recovery mode?
[17:08] <Salihk> hi guys, i have problem with touchpad on ubuntu 11.10
[17:08] <Psych0_>  hi, i've a question. I want to recover some movies of my Ipod Touch, how is it possible ?
[17:08] <Salihk> it totally freezes
[17:08] <tazzer> ok what do you want me to do with them and yes bekks i was in recovery mode
[17:09] <zykotick9_> tazzer, and why where you using "pwconv"?  I had to look up what that app did - not commonly used, i'd say.
[17:09] <jrib> tazzer: look for abnormalities
[17:09] <bekks> tazzer: Then go into the recovery mode again.
[17:09] <_s3gfault> Salihk, i had a similar issue and had to disable turn off touch pad while typing to make it go away
[17:09] <tazzer> i got pwconv from this article http://mohammednv.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/authentication-token-manipulation-error-when-changing-user-passwords-in-linux/
[17:09] <bekks> Psych0_: Use your backup and restore it. No other way.
[17:10] <Psych0_> beks: If i do that I recovry my movies ?
[17:10] <bekks> tazzer: What did you use for "username" when running: passwd username in hte recovery mode - root or your username?
[17:10] <Psych0_> bekks sorry ;)
[17:10] <bekks> Psych0_: If your backup contains that movie: yes. If it doesnt: no.
[17:11] <Salihk> _s3gfault there isn't any solution ?
[17:11] <christian__> any ideas how i can set the right of a user to another user ? (so both have the same rights) ??
[17:11] <tazzer> bekks: i used my username: tazthespaz
[17:11] <_s3gfault> Salihk, disabling that option fixed it for me
[17:11] <Psych0_> bekks: backup doesn't contains that movies. But there realy has any other way ?
[17:11] <bekks> Psych0_: No.
[17:12] <Psych0_> bekks, we can't use something like photorec or other ?
[17:12] <tazzer> bekks: i used my username: tazthespaz
[17:12] <bekks> Psych0_: Which part of "no" was unclear? :)
[17:12] <bekks> tazzer: You dont have to repeat things... :)
[17:13] <Psych0_> bekks, ok that's suck a lot
[17:14] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Can anyone help me with vga_switcheroo?
[17:14] <ilembitov> Just can't figure how to switch the dedicated GPU on
[17:15] <add1ctt> bekks: What would that entry be in /etc/fstab ?
[17:24] <myraft> hello, have a problem and need some help with svn 1.7.1
[17:24] <myraft> installed svn 1.7.1 from source, but can't get SSL working
[17:25] <hemangpatel> hii
[17:25] <myraft> anyone ?
[17:25] <hemangpatel> i cant copy any folder to opt folder in file system
[17:25] <hemangpatel> any reason ?
[17:25] <dr_willis> hemangpatel:  you are doing it with root/sudo rights?
[17:26] <hemangpatel> no
[17:26] <dr_willis> thats the reason then,,,
[17:26] <hemangpatel> i need to run my php project
[17:26] <hemangpatel> first time in linux
[17:26] <jefflett> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu 11.10 from a USB Drive on my MacbookPro.  I keep getting "No bootable device" when I try to boot from my USB Drive in refit.  Any help?
[17:26] <dr_willis> copying stuff to /opt/ would require the proper permissions. and/or use of sudo.
[17:26] <tucemiux_> anyone here ever used a virus scanner on ubuntu to scan hard drives?
[17:26] <hemangpatel> solution ?
[17:26] <dr_willis> tucemiux_:  theres several out. yes..
[17:27] <bekks> tucemiux_: I bet someone did.
[17:27] <myraft> anyone know how to uninstall svn 1.7.1 from Ubuntu 11 - I have tried apt-get autoremove etc
[17:27] <dr_willis> hemangpatel:  linux basics.. 'sudo cp thefile /path/to/put/it/in'
[17:27] <tucemiux_> dr_willis, but I mean, have you personally tried some that work
[17:27] <iceroot> myraft: sudo apt-get remove subversion
[17:27] <bekks> tucemiux_: Just ask your question :)
[17:27] <tucemiux_> bekks, yeah but i mean, hve you personally tried any that works?
[17:27] <dr_willis> tucemiux_:  clamav works.  i imagine the others do also...
[17:27] <myraft> iceroot - tried that
[17:27] <bekks> tucemiux_: I am sure it doesnt help you in any way if I say yes or no.
[17:27] <myraft> I see svn there after that
[17:27] <iceroot> myraft: remove not autoremove
[17:27] <hemangpatel> how to copy folder ?
[17:27] <dr_willis> I think theres like 3 differnt av apps out for linux. unless ive missed some.
[17:27] <iceroot> hemangpatel: cp -r
[17:28] <iceroot> myraft: output of "dpkg -l subversion"
[17:28] <neo^^> dr_willis: clamav, and other two?
[17:28] <tucemiux_> bekks, if you had personally tried and knew from experience it would actually helped if you said yes
[17:28] <dr_willis> hemangpatel:  you may want to read up on some bash command line basics..  OR carefully run the nautilus filemanager as root via 'gksudo nautilus' (and close it when you are done)
[17:28] <hemangpatel> please need full command
[17:28] <bekks> tucemiux_: Ask what you really want to know, please.
[17:28] <myraft> iceroot : Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[17:28] <myraft> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
[17:28] <myraft> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[17:28] <myraft> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[17:28] <myraft> +++-[17:28] <FloodBot1> myraft: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <dr_willis> neo^^:  yea i cant rmber the names. avg was one, and  1 or 2 others..
[17:28] <iceroot> hemangpatel: sudo cp -r /source/dir /target/dir
[17:28] <hemangpatel> ok i"ll try
[17:29] <myraft> sorry
[17:29] <tucemiux_> bekks, I already asked and I already got an answer: clamav
[17:29] <iceroot> myraft: the important line is missing
[17:29] <dr_willis> !virus
[17:29] <iceroot> !paste | myraft
[17:29] <dr_willis> I use clamav on windows. :) not the best.. but its free.
[17:29] <myraft> my bad -
[17:29] <bekks> tucemiux_: You asked wether someone did a virus scan yet.
[17:29] <jefflett> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu from a USB Drive on my MacbookPro.  I keep getting "No bootable device" when I try to boot from my USB Drive in refit.  Anyone able to help?
[17:29] <tucemiux_> dr_willis, but I dont want to use it on wingdows though, I want to use it on ubuntu
[17:29] <neo^^> dr_willis: Does AVG work good on WindowS?
[17:29] <myraft> any ideas iceroot
[17:29] <myraft> ?
[17:29] <iceroot> myraft: i need the last line
[17:30] <iceroot> myraft: startin with "ii" or "rc"
[17:30] <Special-G> guys
[17:30] <dr_willis> tucemiux_:   theres not really any viruses in the wild for linux that i know of.. and  the job of these av tools.. is mainly to scan files for windows viruses..
[17:30] <tucemiux_> dr_willis, thanks for the link!
[17:30] <dr_willis> neo^^:  its hard to benchmark such things. :)
[17:30] <jefflett> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu 11.10 from a USB Drive on my MacbookPro.  I keep getting "No bootable device" when I try to boot from my USB Drive in refit.  Any help?
[17:30] <tucemiux_> dr_
[17:30] <myraft> I just did past it
[17:30] <SkOrPn> I like Microsoft Security Essentials
[17:31] <iceroot> myraft: the last line is missing
[17:31] <dr_willis> SkOrPn:  i use that also.
[17:31] <SkOrPn> works damn near seamlessly
[17:31] <myraft> paste it
[17:31] <iceroot> myraft: FloodBot1 was killing yu before
[17:31] <SkOrPn> and I own a liscense of norton 360 and dont use it
[17:31] <Special-G> guys whats so good about ubuntu?
[17:31] <jefflett> forums it is i guess
[17:31] <jefflett> thanks anyway
[17:31] <myraft> I will paste it again on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:31] <iceroot> myraft: i need the pastebin-url after that
[17:31] <iceroot> myraft: or just paste here the last line
[17:31] <Special-G> guys how long till logs are deleted
[17:31] <dr_willis> Special-G:  you may want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:32] <iceroot> Special-G: depening on the logs, see "logrotate"
[17:32] <dr_willis> Special-G:  what logs? /var/logs are compressed/rotated daily i belive
[17:32] <myraft> iceroot - here you go - http://paste.ubuntu.com/737426/
[17:32] <Growling> l
[17:33] <iceroot> myraft: subversion is not installed on your system
[17:33] <SkOrPn> heres something amazing that Ubuntu can do that windows cant: I took my Ubuntu 11.10 off my amd64 rig from about 2005 and put the drive on a fairly new Intel c2d machine from 2007, and it booted as easily as if it had not changed machines
[17:33] <iceroot> myraft: not the cli-version with "svn"
[17:33] <iceroot> SkOrPn: like every live-cd :)
[17:34] <myraft> iceroot - it is installed "I think" - svn --version shows 1.71. and compiled date
[17:34] <hemangpatel> i have my c drive in media
[17:34] <jefflett> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu 11.10 from a USB Drive on my MacbookPro.  I keep getting "No bootable device" when I try to boot from my USB Drive in refit.  Anyone able to help or tell me a channel that will?
[17:34] <SkOrPn> yeah but this wasnt a live cd, it was a fully installed OS with native drivers etc
[17:34] <myraft> it is missing the wa-dev block and without that I can't get ssl working
[17:34] <iceroot> myraft: how did you installed svn?
[17:34] <hemangpatel> how can i write path
[17:34] <iceroot> myraft: from the repos? or compiled by your own?
[17:34] <myraft> iceroot: from source
[17:34] <hemangpatel> i try "media/XP SP3/xampp/htdocs
[17:34] <iceroot> myraft: then read the README of the source how to remove it
[17:35] <iceroot> myraft: and use the repos in the future
[17:35] <iceroot> !repos | myraft
[17:35] <hemangpatel> media/XP SP3/xampp/htdocs is it right ?
[17:35] <hemangpatel> it gives error
[17:36] <iceroot> hemangpatel: what command, what error
[17:36] <myraft> iceroot / ubotto : learned my lesson the hard way
[17:36] <iceroot> myraft: :)
[17:36] <hemangpatel> i try this command "sudo cp -r /media/XPSP3/xampp/htdocs/ecom /opt/lampp/htdocs/ecom"
[17:36] <hemangpatel> but it gives error
[17:36] <zykotick9_> hemangpatel, to deal with spaces you A) "either need to double quote the string" or B)\ escape\ the\ spaces
[17:36] <Fuyuki> Hello
[17:36] <iceroot> hemangpatel: what error
[17:36] <ulderigo> I just upgraded to 11.10 but might have stopped the package updates prematurely. When I try to install Wine, it tells me to install ia32-libs, which tells me to install ia32-libs-multiarch, which tells me to install several i386 packages. If I try to install any of them then I'm told that lots of packages, such as banshee, nautilus and ubuntu-desktop will be removed (which I don't want, I think?). It seems there can't be 64-bit and 32-bit
[17:37] <ulderigo>  versions of those libraries at the same time. What should I do?
[17:37] <myraft> Iceroot - had 1.6 working, but needed Java HL so figured might has well upgrade - since synaptic did not give me 1.7 went around running the source
[17:37] <myraft> iceroot - nothing in README to remove
[17:37] <hemangpatel> cp: cannot stat `/media/XPSP3/xampp/htdocs/ecom': No such file or directory
[17:37] <iceroot> !info subversion
[17:37] <bekks> ulderigo: There is no problem in installing 32 and 64bit libraries of the same package at the same time.
[17:37] <arooni-mobile> how do i make the default editor vim; and not nano or whatever it seems tob to be now ....
[17:37] <iceroot> myraft: java hl = java highlight?
[17:37] <myraft> ubottu - agreed, but needed 1.7 for JavaHL
[17:38] <rypervenche> I have two Windows computers that I would like to transfer data between using Live sessions on both of them. How can I go about doing that? I'd like to be able to put an ethernet cable between the two of them and transfer the data that way using the "cp" command. Is this possible?
[17:38] <ulderigo> bekks: OK, but then shall I just go ahead and let apg-get remove banshee et.al.?
[17:38] <myraft> iceroot - not sure - needed for Eclipse IDE for it to connect with SVN
[17:38] <riffautae> arooni-mobile: set your EDITOR environmental var to vim
[17:38] <iceroot> hemangpatel: the error is very clear, so what is your question
[17:38] <myraft> iceroot - get me out of this hell and back to 1.6 using synaptic
[17:39] <iceroot> myraft: sudo apt-get install subversion
[17:39] <myraft> figured after wasting a day - just live with the old version
[17:39] <zykotick9_> bekks, actually, from what i've seen so far with multiarch - your statement isn't true.  ulderigo
[17:39] <myraft> iceroot - tried that from synaptic, but version still shows 1.7.1 and missing SSL support
[17:39] <clio> I have an external USB drive that is automatically set to read-only when I mount it using the following command:  sudo mount -t ntfs -rw /dev/sdb1 /media/LaCie   The output of this command is:  mount: warning: /media/LaCie seems to be mounted read-only.  Any suggestions?
[17:39] <myraft> iceroot - will try CLI
[17:40] <ulderigo> zykotick: I don't get it. Then why does apt-get want to remove 64-bit versions of the libraries?
[17:40] <mman> which software do you recommend me for streaming music?
[17:41] <iceroot> myraft: sudo apt-get remove --purge subversion, after that show me the output of "which svn"
[17:41] <zykotick9_> ulderigo, i've only seen what happens in this channel, but it appears that 32bit libraries can cause the removal of the 64bit libraries (exactly what multi-arch was suppose to avoid)?  I have no personal experience with it - good luck.
[17:42] <eron> Hey guys where do i find a solution to this issue?  eron@ubuntu:~$ wine /home/eron/Desktop/sins/sr-soaset/Setup.exe
[17:42] <eron> fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilter c047 00000001
[17:42] <eron> fixme:win:DisableProcessWindowsGhosting : stub
[17:42] <eron> err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL (which is needed by L"C:\\users\\eron\\Temp\\is-G8MO9.tmp\\isskin.dll") not found
[17:42] <FloodBot1> eron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:42] <hemangpatel> i want to copy ecom folder from "/media/XPSP3/xampp/htdocs/ecom" to "/opt/lampp/htdocs/ecom" (ecom folder does not exist in destination)
[17:42] <ulderigo> so does everyone who have Wine installed, also have only 32-bit libraries installed?
[17:42] <hemangpatel> command ?
[17:42] <myraft> iceroot- this is what I mean - I have tried all obvious ones - http://paste.ubuntu.com/737435/
[17:42] <iceroot> hemangpatel: sudo mkdir -p /opt/lampp/htdocs/ecom
[17:43] <iceroot> myraft: please use the which command as i said
[17:43] <hemangpatel> iceroot : how to copy files now ?
[17:43] <bekks> hemangpatel: The way you already tried.
[17:44] <zykotick9_> hemangpatel, using Ubuntu's lamp stack would be a lot better then a 3rd part "lampp" install.  "/msg ubottu xampp" for some details.
[17:44] <myraft> which shows /usr/local/bin/svn
[17:44] <bekks> hemangpatel: Now, the target exists, and you can copy file into it.
[17:44] <iceroot> myraft: sudo mv /usr/local/bin/svn /usr/local/bin/svn.old && sudo apt-get install subversion && svn --version
[17:44] <clio> I have an external USB drive that is automatically set to read-only when I mount it using the following command:  sudo mount -t ntfs -rw /dev/sdb1 /media/LaCie   The output of this command is:  mount: warning: /media/LaCie seems to be mounted read-only.  Any suggestions?
[17:44] <myraft> iceroot - which svn shows /usr/local/bin/svn
[17:44] <myraft> iceroot - will try that
[17:44] <bekks> clio: take a look at dmesg, about the last 100 lines.
[17:44] <myraft> brb
[17:45] <hemangpatel> can write XP SP3 ? or XPSP3 is good ?
[17:45] <zykotick9_> clio, mounting NTFS requires more options then you are using!  that -rw isn't going to do anying.
[17:45] <iceroot> clio: you must use ntfs-3g
[17:45] <iceroot> clio: wihtout ntfs-3g you can only read
[17:46] <clio> iceroot, ntfs-3g didnt work...
[17:46] <iceroot> !didntwork | clio
[17:46] <iceroot> ..
[17:46] <iceroot> clio: you have a usefull error instead of "did not work"?
[17:46] <clio> iceroot,  hold up... pastebinning
[17:46] <hemangpatel> error "cp: cannot stat `/media/XPSP3/xampp/htdocs/ecom': No such file or directory"
[17:46] <hemangpatel> hmmm now ?
[17:46] <iceroot> hemangpatel: your source does not exist
[17:46] <myraft> iceroot - broke - http://paste.ubuntu.com/737443/
[17:47] <iceroot> hemangpatel: there is no /media/XPSP3/xampp/htdocs/ecom
[17:47] <myraft> iceroot - which svn shows /usr/bin/svn , but svn command does nto work
[17:47] <iceroot> myraft: restart your terminal
[17:47] <bastidrazor> myraft: if you use 'checkinstall' instead of 'make install' then youcan use dpkg -r to remove. makes it much easier.
[17:47] <iceroot> myraft: dont know how to reset the PATH cache so restart the terminal should work
[17:48] <zykotick9_> hemangpatel, try "/media/X<TABKEYHERE>..." to see if it auto completes the path
[17:48] <clio> iceroot, the error reads "mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g'3 but Im quite sure its an ntfs volume...
[17:48] <iceroot> clio: you are using ubuntu?
[17:48] <clio> iceroot, yes
[17:48] <arooni-mobile> how can i make it so that bash is automatically loaded as my shell?
[17:48] <clio> 11.10
[17:48] <myraft> iceroot- worked !!!
[17:48] <bekks> clio: nopaste the output of lsb_release -a please
[17:48] <iceroot> myraft: great
[17:48] <myraft> iceroot - thanks man / woman
[17:48] <jrib> myraft: hash -r
[17:48] <ssta> arooni-mobile: chsh
[17:48] <iceroot> clio: normally ntfs-3g is installed by default on ubuntu
[17:48] <jrib> iceroot: hash -r  should work in that circumstance (myraft)
[17:49] <iceroot> jrib: ah good to know, thanks
[17:49] <myraft> iceroot - will figure out the paths and stuff, atleast for now can continue work
[17:49] <iceroot> clio: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[17:49] <myraft> jrib - what is hash -r
[17:49] <myraft> ?
[17:49] <clio> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/737447/
[17:49] <myraft> forgive my ignorance
[17:49] <iceroot> clio: after that "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/foo /media/foobar"
[17:49] <jrib> myraft: type « help hash » in your bash shell
[17:50] <clio> iceroot, ok
[17:50] <myraft> jrib - don't want to play games
[17:50] <myraft> later dude
[17:50] <myraft> jrib - sorry
[17:50] <clio> iceroot, strange that it wasnt installed ... i didnt even think to check
[17:50] <intel352> hola ubuntuites. I'm attempting to make a package debian-compliant, anyone have any tips/examples when altering source to change file path references, for instance?  dealing with c/c++, I'd think the use of constants to replace hard-coded references would be great, but I'm not sure what's available within the realm of c/c++ and automake, etc.
[17:50] <bekks> myraft: Thats not a game, but a valuable clue :)
[17:51] <MishkaEchoes> hey guys I've left my ubuntu box running for awhile and when I came back to it unity broke
[17:51] <MishkaEchoes> I've been following http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/04/missing-top-and-side-panels-in-unity.html
[17:51] <iceroot> clio: dont know if 11.10 is still installing it as default but i think so
[17:51] <MishkaEchoes> but it hasn't helped me fix my problem
[17:51] <myraft> jrib - bekks , just realize my mistake on top of my ignorance -
[17:51] <myraft> sorry guys
[17:51] <myraft> thanks
[17:51] <MishkaEchoes> when I tried sudo service gdm restart I get gdm: unrecognized service
[17:51] <puff> My sound stopped working.  I'm on 11.10 with xubuntu-desktop, on a thinkpad t520.  I tried rebooting and I tried fiddling with the volume buttons and I tried the steps listed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:51] <chrisreichel> Hi there
[17:51] <clio> iceroot, it seems to have done so on my other machines... strange but hopefully this will work =)
[17:52] <zykotick9_> MishkaEchoes, if you're using 11.10, it doesn't use gdm - try "sudo service lightdm restart" i believe
[17:52] <chrisreichel> Guys, I've upgraded the amount of memory in my computer, from 4GB to 8GB, The system became in a unusable state given the overall slowness
[17:53] <chrisreichel> had to put the 4GB back....
[17:53] <chrisreichel> Does anybody have a clue of whats happening?
[17:53] <clio> iceroot, the mount command seems to have worked. Is it safe to run a chown?
[17:53] <chrisreichel> I'm running a 64bit version, and I made the memtest -> no error
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> chrisreichel: you may need PAE to address more memory
[17:54] <MishkaEchoes> I tried the service restart recommended and it did restart, but sadly my unity bar on the left is still broken
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> may need*
[17:54] <MishkaEchoes> and I don't have a top bar with system information like clock etc
[17:54] <zykotick9_> clio, you can't apply POSIX permissions to NTFS drives - so chown/chmod won't work - you need to specify this in the mount command somehow.
[17:54] <chrisreichel> MonkeyDust even running in 64bit OS?
[17:54] <zykotick9_> MonkeyDust, PAE doesn't apply to 64bit installs
[17:55] <MishkaEchoes> I've reset compiz to defaults even though I never touched anything in compiz to begin with
[17:55] <urlin2u> MishkaEchoes, the refresh in compiz is problematic, have you run unity --reset  and done a reboot?
[17:55] <zykotick9_> chrisreichel, no (PAE doesn't apply to 64bit)
[17:55] <cih997> Hi, In gnome-shell 3.0.x I used ALT+TAB to change windows and ALT+~ to change windows in groups. Since gnome-shell 3.2.x ALT+~ doesn't work. Anyone has solution?
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> ok, "may need" ;)
[17:56] <clio> zykotick9_, ah ok. Im using pysdm to automount at boot time... i believe this edits the fstab file. is that an appropriate way to handle this?
[17:56] <zykotick9_> clio, i don't know pysdm - but fstab could be used (with the proper options) to make the NTFS read/write
[17:56] <chrisreichel> I thought that was a mtrr problem
[17:56] <hemangpatel> how to remove permission for perticular folder ?
 ok, "may need"  <- not at all, PAE is a (useless) 32Bit extension, pointless to mention if the already runs 64bit
[17:56] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[17:56] <clio> zykotick9_, ok thank you
[17:56] <Dave-Maydew> Can I ask a quick question? I know you guys are busy
[17:56] <chrisreichel> I checked the mttr options from kernen and enabled some options in grub
[17:57] <dcherniv> !ask
[17:57] <urlin2u> Dave-Maydew, yes
[17:57] <PrototypeX29A> i recently upgraded to 11.04 and now the scrollbars in all GTK applications are kind of unusable, can I change it back to the previous behaviour?
[17:57] <hemangpatel> how to remove permission for perticular folder ?
[17:57] <arooni-mobile> how would i make tmux start upon ssh login to my server?  i'm using bash if it matters.
[17:57] <dcherniv> hemangpatel, what do you mean?
[17:58] <hemangpatel> i want to remove root permission from opt folder
[17:58] <MishkaEchoes> urlin2u I've tried unity --reset yes it didn't take, and I've restarted the machine a few times
[17:58] <klync> i'm new to using pulse audio; on their website, they recommend against running it as a system-wide daemon; what do ubuntu users recommend for sharing sound hardware across user accounts?
[17:58] <Dave-Maydew> I've solved the Nvidia issue on my Sony Desktop, but I also have a Acer Aspire One AO751h Netbook with the crappy Poulsbo, but will this be an issue in 12.04?
[17:58] <ssta> hemangpatel: you can't remove root permissions
[17:58] <bekks> hemangpatel: Thats not a permission, but an ownership.
[17:58] <bekks> hemangpatel: If you want to change that, use the command chown.
[17:58] <clio> zykotick9_, how should I configure fstab if I want to automount the ntfs filesystem as rw?
[17:59] <hemangpatel> i want to run my php sample project
[17:59] <zykotick9_> clio, sorry i have no idea - i don't use MS garbage.  Good luck.
[17:59] <MishkaEchoes> is there a way to uninstall unity and then reinstall it or something like that
[17:59] <hemangpatel> from that dir .. but it does not display any files..
[17:59] <MishkaEchoes> and does unity include the top bar or just the left side panel
[17:59] <bekks> hemangpatel: Then momst likely your webserver isnt configured correctly.
[17:59] <clio> zykotick9_, haha ok thanks anyway
[18:00] <puff> Can anybody help me with my sound problem?
[18:00] <urlin2u> MishkaEchoes, top panel and the left panel
[18:00] <Dave-Maydew> So GMA500 powered devices? will it be able to work by 12.04, or should I just scrap the idea??
[18:00] <CrystalCastle> Hi
[18:01] <CrystalCastle> someone can help me?
[18:01] <ssta> clio: something like: /dev/sdXX /mnt/foo ntfs auto,rw 0 0
[18:01] <puff> CrystalCastle: No.
[18:01] <puff> CrystalCastle: not if they don't know what your problem is :-)
[18:01] <zykotick9_> ssta, that's not going to work.  clio
[18:01] <ssta> hmm, /media/foo these days I suppose
[18:01] <CrystalCastle> : p
[18:01] <urlin2u> CrystalCastle, probably just ask your questions.
[18:01] <ssta> whagt was wrong with leaving it as /mnt?
[18:02] <ssta> zykotick9_: why not?
[18:02] <zykotick9_> ssta, NTFS needs OTHER options to make read/write
[18:02] <CrystalCastle> I want to play League Of Legends in ubuntu, but i can't because with wine the installer dont run
[18:02] <The_BROS> Is it possible to make subtitles at the Open Shot program?
[18:02] <zykotick9_> CrystalCastle, #winehq might help
[18:02] <clio> zykotick9_, ssta  this is what I have:  /dev/sdb1                                  /media/LaCie  ntfs  nls=iso8859-1,users,umask=002,utf8,posix=1,user,noatime,nodiratime,uid=1000  0  0
[18:02] <clio> but im guessing its missing something
[18:02] <zainu> help please : nfs mounting gives error  not in host:dir format
[18:03] <zykotick9_> clio, that's looking better - umask and such.  But i can't/won't help you.  Good luck.
[18:03] <dcherniv> clio, yea ntfs-3g instead of ntfs
[18:03] <CrystalCastle> zykotick9_ Thanks you
[18:03] <dcherniv> clio, ntfs driver is read only
[18:03] <MishkaEchoes> after trying unity-reset it appears to fail after doing Initiailizing scale options ... done and prints 3 lines with compiz (core) - Warn: failed to receive ConfigureNotify event on 0x......
[18:03] <clio> dch4pm4n, ok ok it all suddenly makes sense =) thank you!
[18:03] <MishkaEchoes> so if compiz broke unity how do I go about uninstalling compiz?
[18:04] <zykotick9_> MishkaEchoes, Unity requires compiz actually...
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> who had this ssh question?
[18:05] <KM0201> clio: not sure if this helps, but here's my fstab line for an NTFS partition...  /dev/sda1       /media/ntfs       ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46,noatime   0       0
[18:05] <clio> dcherniv, and just to make sure ... I dont need to create the mount directory in /media, do I?  It should automatically be created?
[18:05] <zykotick9_> clio, it won't be auto created no
[18:05] <clio> KM0201, and your is read/write?
[18:06] <dcherniv> clio, if you're doing it through fstab then mount directory must exist
[18:06] <KM0201> clio: of course
[18:06] <clio> dcherniv, zykotick9_ ok thanks
[18:06] <MishkaEchoes> fixed it!!!
[18:06] <th^2> hello all
[18:06] <MishkaEchoes> reset all of config through the terminal
[18:06] <KillaByte> sofar ubuntu seems to be the best distro
[18:06] <MishkaEchoes> it didn't work when I did it through the manager
[18:06] <th^2> nmap localhost shows:"631/tcp open  ipp"
[18:06] <clio> KM0201,  strange... earlier i was told that the NTFS driver was read only and that I needed to specify ntfs-3g
[18:06] <MishkaEchoes> man that felt great
[18:06] <cih997> Hi, In gnome-shell 3.0.x I used ALT+TAB to change windows and ALT+~ to change windows in groups. Since gnome-shell 3.2.x ALT+~ doesn't work. Anyone has solution?
[18:06] <th^2> nmap localhost shows:"631/tcp open  ipp" what is that?
[18:07] <KM0201> clio: what version of ubuntu are you using?..
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> arooni-mobile: add this line in .profile: if [ ! -z "$SSH_CONNECTION" ]; then tmux -rd; fi
[18:07] <iceroot> th^2: cups (your printer interface)
[18:07] <clio> 11.10
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> arooni-mobile: add this line in .profile: if [ ! -z "$SSH_CONNECTION" ]; then tmux; fi
[18:07] <klync> anyone know how i can turn off pulseaudio (without uninstalling it)?
[18:07] <Salihk> guys, i did mistake i think. i open a guest session and i managed the user accounts from there i created a new admin account and deleted the other one. it asks me password only one time and i entered my password. than i change session again when i tried to enter admin account it said to me it is wrong password. Now i cannot open ubuntu on admin account means i cannot install anything on it.
[18:07] <Salihk> could you help ?
[18:07] <clio> KM0201, 11.10
[18:07] <th^2> iceroot, aaa thank you!
[18:07] <iceroot> th^2: http://localhost:631
[18:07] <KM0201> clio: well, i can't explain that... it works fine here.
[18:07] <ssta> clio: ntfs-3g is a userspace driver...you probably wouldn't use it in fstab
[18:07] <clio> KM0201, I'll just give it a whirl
[18:07] <th^2> iceroot, yes yes :D
[18:08] <zykotick9_> klync, "pasuspender BINARY" will suspend pulse for given BINARY program
[18:08] <hhhzzzarn> which wine package do i download from software center? ubuntu 11.10? playonlinux? or together?
[18:08] <dcherniv> clio, ah my bad, ntfs-3g is default nowadays, specifying just ntfs should work for read/write
[18:08] <klync> Salihk: so, there's no account where you can do "sudo"? If not, reboot from cd....
[18:08] <clio> dcherniv, ok thanks!
[18:08] <clio> thanks ssta
[18:08] <th^2> iceroot, then you know what is 53/tcp as well?
[18:09] <iceroot> th^2: dns
[18:09] <bastidrazor> th^2: that is dnsmasq, possibly
[18:09] <klync> zykotick9_: i want the server to not start up when I login; in fact, when anyone logs in. I don't see the advantage over just using alsa
[18:09] <bastidrazor> th^2: or unbound
[18:09] <clio> So this looks ok to everybody?  /dev/sdb1                                  /media/LaCie  ntfs  nls=iso8859-1,users,umask=002,utf8,posix=1,user,noatime,nodiratime,uid=1000  0  0
[18:09] <eight_bit> hi
[18:09] <eight_bit> i need abit of help
[18:09] <zykotick9_> klync, good luck with that.  expect gnome/unity to have broken audio if you do.
[18:09] <eight_bit> i just installed 11.10
[18:09] <eight_bit> how do i get rid of it ?
[18:09] <eight_bit> and i really hate this side bar unity thing
[18:09] <iceroot> th^2: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers#Well-known_ports
[18:09] <eight_bit> i want regular gnome
[18:10] <FloodBot1> eight_bit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <vsingh165> anyone know why Firefox 8 and latest flash update haven't been released yet on the stable channel?
[18:10] <iceroot> !nounity | eight_bit
[18:10] <eight_bit> anyone ?
[18:10] <matxinoa> hello all, I have a problem with xampp, mysql did not start, anyone can help me?
[18:10] <KM0201> eight_bit: you might try not hitting enter every 3 words
[18:10] <zykotick9_> !xampp | matx
[18:10] <klync> zykotick9_: ok, let me rephrase, then... I want mpd to have access to my sound hardware as root, even when a user is logged in
[18:10] <eight_bit> thank you ubottu
[18:10] <th^2> iceroot, bastidrazor ok now im lost... wich service could be using that?
[18:10] <zykotick9_> matxinoa, ^^ see the !xampp above
[18:10] <iceroot> vsingh165: there are never major-updates within a ubuntu-release, just sec-updates (and ff8 is not stable bzw)
[18:10] <eight_bit> and sorry i type like that ;3
[18:11] <KM0201> eight_bit: well, there's 1600 people chatting here... it's tough to follow someones conversation like that
[18:11] <PrototypeX29A> !classic
[18:11] <KM0201> !enter | eight_bit
[18:11] <bastidrazor> th^2: sudo netstat -napt  ..this will list the program name
[18:11] <vsingh165> iceroot:  yeah I've had a few issues with ff8 on windows.  I'm sticking with Chrome for now
[18:11] <iceroot> matxinoa: dont use xampp
[18:11] <skyball> !nounity
[18:11] <zykotick9_> klync, i haven't used mpd in a while, not sure running it as root is a particularly good idea though.  Best of luck (i'm no help, sorry)
[18:11] <iceroot> matxinoa: use the regual packages "sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server"
[18:11] <matxinoa> iceroot, which I use?
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> matxinoa: try tasksel
[18:11] <th^2> bastidrazor, those are all the connections in and out my computer?
[18:11] <iceroot> matxinoa: xampp is bad
[18:12] <bastidrazor> th^2: tcp connections yes.
[18:12] <matxinoa> how I can install the same but is not xampp?
[18:12] <skyball> !classic
[18:12] <th^2> bastidrazor, how about all of them?
[18:12] <zykotick9_> !lamp | matxinoa
[18:12] <klync> zykotick9_: very helpful, thanks for the insights, even if no solution yet
[18:12] <rhizmoe> how can i speed up folder display in the unity file manager?
[18:13] <matxinoa> thank you!
[18:13] <Xaro> Hey all
[18:13] <ulrik> I just upgraded to 11.10, and when I try to install Wine, "apt-get install wine" gives me the error message "The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine : Depends: wine1.3 but it is not going to be installed. Depends: ia32-libs (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed. E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." Trying to install ia32-libs only complains that ia32-libs-multiarch isn't installed, etc.
[18:14] <Salihk> guys for my account it says it is disabled how can i enable it ?
[18:14] <hhhzzzarn> salihk: what?
[18:14] <bastidrazor> th^2: add a 'u'  -naptu
[18:14] <KillaByte> i know this is ubuntu channel but is linux mint a better distro ?
[18:14] <hhhzzzarn> ulrik, go to software center and install wine
[18:14] <jrib> ulrik: you have no idea why?
[18:15] <rhizmoe> KillaByte: wrong channel
[18:15] <hhhzzzarn> kkiabyte: not better, it is just choice.
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> !best| KillaByte
[18:15] <vsingh165> KillaByte:  can't say I've tried Linux Mint.  it is kind of like Ubuntu in that it's ready out of the box
[18:15] <vsingh165> KillaByte:  but I'm not sure how much better it is. in the end, all Linux distros are similar at their core
[18:15] <zykotick9_> KillaByte, you question is offtopic here (Mint is more popular then Ubuntu, since Ubuntu switched to Unity)
[18:15] <KM0201> KillaByte: thats a matter of opinion, my personal opinion, is no it is not.
[18:15] <ulrik> hhhzzzarn: that gives me the same error message
[18:16] <hhhzzzarn> killabyte: i used linux mint, but inorder for the greater good and ubuntu 11.10, i switched to ubuntu again
[18:16] <vsingh165> I don't really have any issues with Unity
[18:16] <hhhzzzarn> ulrick: what does?
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> i use mint
[18:16] <vsingh165> since I am an OSX user too, it appeals to me :)
[18:16] <ulrik> jrib: I might have aborted some package updates because the computer froze
[18:16] <hhhzzzarn> vsingh: might want to try, gnome-shell, liking it.
[18:16] <Jonii> Hey, anyone know if Ubuntu 10.4 has this "Dvorak International with dead keys" layout somewhere?
[18:16] <KillaByte> yeah in my opinion ubuntu rules
[18:16] <jrib> ulrik: run « sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:16] <ulrik> hhhzzzarn: Installing wine through software center
[18:17] <hhhzzzarn> ulrik: i am trying to install wine right now as well, but i have not started yet. I guess you have to pick the right packge
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> i use mint because i dislike unity
[18:17] <KM0201> zykotick9_: you know though, when Mint goes to gnome 3 (which i assume will be it's next release)... there's gonna be an equal amount of  suck to go around.
[18:17] <KillaByte> monkey dust howwas the installation did the wifi and video work out the box?
[18:17] <LSymonds> Mint 12 is coming out soon
[18:17] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn: the new gnome is kind of annoying, though
[18:17] <ulrik> jrib: And then what? Nothing happens.
[18:17] <zykotick9_> KM0201, i think the fact that Mint is based on Ubuntu (currently) seals it's fate
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> mint 12 RC is unstable, i tried it
[18:17] <jrib> ulrik: « sudo apt-get install -f »
[18:17] <ssta> stick to 10.04.  No unity brokenness :)  This is all a bit off-topic though
[18:18] <KM0201> zykotick9_: maybe... i'm really happy w/ Lubuntu.. it's got a sexy interface, easy to use... and NO UNITY!
[18:18] <hhhzzzarn> vsingh165: well, i prefer it over unity currently since i get to see all my open windows as soon as i move mymouse over the home button
[18:18] <Jonii> I like Unity better than 10.4 look+funktionality
[18:18] <zee> Once Ubuntu 10.04LTS reaches its end of life (Apr 2013) does it become unsafe to use immediately? 3-6 months later? 6-12 monts later? or much later?
[18:19] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn:  it's your preference.  I prefer unity since I use OSX and the layout/functionality is similar
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> mac vs pc, linux vs windows, ubuntu vs mint ;)
[18:19] <xangua> !eol | zee
[18:19] <bekks> zee: It isnt supported then anymore.
[18:19] <ulrik> jrib: that doesn't help, either
[18:19] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn:  the sidebar especially keeps things neat when you have lots of stuff open on multiple desktops
[18:19] <jrib> ulrik: pastebin full output
[18:19] <ulrik> ok
[18:19] <zykotick9_> zee, ubuntu isn't like debian - there isn't an old-stable grace year.  When it's EOL, no more updates.
[18:19] <hhhzzzarn> vsingh165: gnome shell is same thing with a few things different.
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> i like mint more
[18:20] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn:  gnome 3 is slow though...gnome 2 was much faster and more streamlined
[18:20] <jrib> please move the mint discussion elsewhere (like #ubuntu-offtopic)
[18:20] <hhhzzzarn> vsingh: i was comparing unity to gnome shell. not to gnome 2.
[18:20] <ulrik> jrib: http://pastebin.com/EJuKXNz1
[18:20] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn:  I would rather use gnome 3 on a tablet, since it seems to be more touch-friendly with its android-like interface
[18:21] <KillaByte> jrib lol
[18:21] <hhhzzzarn> is anyone else having issue with flash and firefox? it is choppy and slow
[18:21] <hhhzzzarn> i deleted flash 11
[18:21] <KillaByte> opensuse is very nice but had some driver issues
[18:21] <jtr__> does LAMP work on 11.10? without any problems ? p=perl
[18:21] <hhhzzzarn> and installed flash 10
[18:21] <hhhzzzarn> and went to chrome, and it seems better
[18:21] <jrib> KillaByte: #ubuntu-offtopic for distro preferences please
[18:21] <Salihk> It sounds stupid but i created a admin account from guest session. Than i remove the other admin account. However new admin account is disabled. So i cannot enter admin session. I thinks it is huge bug. because someone who can access guest account (means everybody  does) can easily delete real admin account and blow all the system. If i can do it everybody does... How can i fix this ?
[18:21] <vsingh165> hhhzzarn:  flash 11 is actually pretty good.  at least now they have 64-bit version that's really fast.
[18:22] <hhhzzzarn> vsingh165: do you mean for 64 bit os?
[18:22] <xangua> hhhzzzarn: chrome uses a bundle flashplugin
[18:22] <xangua> not your system ;)
[18:22] <jrib> ulrik: run « sudo apt-get update » and try again.  If output is the same, pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list* and the output of the command « apt-cache policy wine wine1.3 ia32-libs »
[18:22] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn:  yes.  and chrome is nice with how it bundles flash in.  updates when the browser does :)
[18:22] <ssta> Salihk: how did you manage to create a sudo capable user from a guest session?
[18:22] <jtr__> [23:51] <jtr__> does LAMP work on 11.10? without any problems ? p=perl?????
[18:22] <jrib> jtr__: yes
[18:22] <jrib> !lamp | jtr__
[18:22] <jtr__> jrib: ok
[18:22] <hhhzzzarn> vsingh165: question: flash 64 for 64 bit os or 64 bit system?
[18:23] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn:  64-bit os on 64-bit system
[18:23] <jtr__> jrib: i read that , it says only about 11.04, so just asked, anyways thatnks
[18:23] <vsingh165> hhhzzzarn:  I don't run 32-bit anymore
[18:23] <jtr__> thanks*
[18:23] <blind> Hi, I don't know if anyone remembers, I was having issues with my wireless dropping at random times. It seems to have been fixed by installing wicd and uninstalling network manager. I've currently been connected over 24 hours.
[18:23] <hhhzzzarn> i have another laptop with 32 bit os on 64 bit system.
[18:23] <hhhzzzarn> and flash was choppy on firefox.
[18:23] <KillaByte> has anyone have lamp gui or is it always /opt/lamp/lamp start ?
[18:23] <Salihk> ssta actually i really don't know how but it is a real. I cannot enter my admin account and delete origin user from guest session
[18:24] <jrib> KillaByte: you should be using apache, mysql, and php (or whatever p you want) through the repositories.  To start and stop services, use the « service » command
[18:24] <zee> zykotick9: does ubuntu 10.04LTS become unsafe to use immediately pass its EOL?
[18:24] <hhhzzzarn> i have (hacking) my brother laptop lately: changing his admin password :)
[18:24] <hhhzzzarn> been*
[18:24] <ssta> Salihk: sounds really strange to me...you need a rescue system I guess (the installer CD to a live session will work)
[18:24] <zykotick9_> zee, yes
[18:24] <hhhzzzarn> off-topic.
[18:24] <hhhzzzarn> anyway. which wine package do i installed from the software center?
[18:24] <Shwaiil> hi
[18:25] <Flannel> zee: It stops getting updates once its EOL, it doesn't magically break at that moment, but any security flaws won't be fixed from then on.
[18:25] <Salihk> i think 11.10 not ready yet
[18:25] <hhhzzzarn> anyone installed playonlinux?
[18:25] <xangua> Salihk: it is already november
[18:25] <vsingh165> Salihk:  really?  I think it's much more mature than 11.04
[18:25] <hhhzzzarn> can i install playonlinux, wine, q4wine, together?
[18:25] <KillaByte> yeah it really dont work :(
[18:25] <xangua> it has been here for a month Salihk
[18:25] <ulrik> jrib: sources.list here http://pastebin.com/m70XxPLZ and apt-cache here http://pastebin.com/N4eSW22v
[18:25] <Shwaiil> Q: I've checked some screenshots on last version of ubuntu and it looks strange. There's no more Applications at top ?! and..there's a ....menu  bar on the left side ?! what the hell
[18:26] <KillaByte> hhhzzzarn what you trying to install
[18:26] <Salihk> But if i can delete an origin admin account from guest session where is the security ?
[18:26] <jrib> ulrik: why do you have precise repositories?
[18:26] <zykotick9_> !unity | Shwaiil
[18:26] <DrMax> I'm using 11.10 with Gnome3 and I am looking for the dialog that allows the admin to grant specific privileges to the users, such as "use the fax", etc.
[18:26] <ulrik> jrib: eh... I don't know.
[18:26] <hhhzzzarn> killaByte: are you pming me? i am trying to stall the best wine or varient.
[18:26] <hhhzzzarn> install
[18:27] <MishkaEchoes> I decided to make a perm switch from win7 to ubuntu on my main machine. It's composed of 4 monitors (2)9800 GTX+ in non sli. After running updates and upgrading the drivers when I go to Display Settings its still not picking up on the other two monitors
[18:27] <MishkaEchoes> other 3 monitors
[18:27] <hhhzzzarn> which irc client shows everyone message in a different color? or boxes?
[18:27] <stef1a> in konsole, how can i change the color or properties of the directory text (before the $)?
[18:27] <Salihk> the reason that i delete my admin account is to solve the touchpad problem because only on guest account the touchpad is working properly
[18:27] <jrib> hhhzzzarn: most of them
[18:27] <ulrik> jrib: How/where do I change them?
[18:27] <jrib> ulrik: have you installed anything from precise?
[18:27] <Shwaiil> !notunity
[18:27] <xangua> hhhzzzarn: pidgin is one
[18:28] <Shwaiil> !notunity | Shwaiil
[18:28] <ulrik> jrib: not on purpose, no
[18:28] <Shwaiil> zykotick9_, how to see !notunity ?
[18:28] <jrib> ulrik: doesn't matter if it was on purpose
[18:28] <Shwaiil> ok thanks sorry ;D
[18:29] <DrMax> ubottu : ok, but that's not my question
[18:29] <zykotick9_> Shwaiil, if you want to see a factoid privately use "/msg ubottu foo" replace foo with the factoid you want
[18:29] <jrib> ulrik: if a significant portion of your system is on precise and you'd prefer to stay on natty, then you should just reinstall.  If you just added these repositories but never installed anything from them, then just remove them from your sources.list and run an « apt-get update »
[18:29] <ulrik> jrib: I understand. To my knowledge I haven't, no
[18:30] <hhhzzzarn> xangua:?
[18:30] <xangua> hhhzzzarn: yes¿
[18:30] <hhhzzzarn> xangua: ok pidgin with colored text for everyone.
[18:30] <Salihk> How i solve my account problem with live cd ?
[18:30] <hhhzzzarn> salihk? what are you trying to do again?
[18:30] <ulrik> jrib: I see. Is there some easy way of seeing if it is? If a large portion is on precise, I mean
[18:31] <xapel> Is it possible to somehow copy a Virtualbox instance of Ubuntu to USB and run it from the USB on another computer?\
[18:31] <Salihk> nothing to save my ubuntu
[18:31] <hhhzzzarn> nothing to save my ubuntu?
[18:31] <gloomer> xapel if it has virtual box sure
[18:31] <hhhzzzarn> you mean, you want to save things on the live cd?
[18:31] <jrib> ulrik: you could construct an aptitude search to do so, but I'd have to read the documentation to be more exact.  You can check individual packages just using apt-cache policy
[18:32] <ulrik> jrib: okay, I will do that. Thanks for your help.
[18:32] <bekks> Salihk: You just have to add your new user account to the admin usergroup - using the recovery mode.
[18:32] <xapel> gloomer: no I want to boot from the USB
[18:32] <hhhzzzarn> xapel: why virtualbox?
[18:33] <hhhzzzarn> xapel: if you want to boot ubuntu from usb, all you do is download "universalusbcreator"
[18:33] <hhhzzzarn> i think it is called "universalusbinstaller or creator"
[18:33] <th^2> okay what is the point of "alternate"?
[18:33] <xapel> hhhzzzarn, I want to install Ubuntu inside VB and then customize it a bit and then be able to give it to a friend to run on his computer
[18:34] <stef1a> in konsole, how can i change the color or properties of the directory text (before the $)?
[18:34] <hhhzzzarn> xapel: so you want to create an image from a virtualbox?
[18:34] <bekks> th^2: More drivers for more hardware, no gui install.
[18:34] <xapel> hhhzzzarn yes
[18:34] <hhhzzzarn> xapel: search the internet, how to create an image of a virtualbox
[18:34] <hhhzzzarn> :)
[18:34] <ssta> stef1a: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html
[18:34] <hhhzzzarn> since i do not know how.
[18:34] <lions> ciao
[18:34] <lions> !list
[18:35] <hhhzzzarn> have not used that functionality.
[18:35] <lions> !list
[18:35] <xapel> hhhzzzarn, will do, thx
[18:36] <zykotick9_> !it > lions no files here
[18:37] <Shwaiil> damn this unity thing...really does suck :X
[18:37] <jrib> Shwaiil: if you don't like it, don't use it :x  there are plenty of desktop environments and window managers to choose from
[18:38] <th^2> okay howto encrypt a virtualbox os?
[18:38] <jrib> !away > zz_M4rc3l
[18:38] <Shwaiil> jrib, they could at least, let people choose.. like theme "classic"
[18:38] <jrib> !nounity | Shwaiil
[18:39] <jrib> Shwaiil: you can choose
[18:39] <hhhzzzarn> shwaiil, you can choose by installing?
[18:39] <Shwaiil> ok tks
[18:39] <klync> th^2: i don't know if virtualbox offers that inside the app, but you could do an encrypted fs when installing the guest, or keep the image inside an encrypted disk image that you mount via loopback before launching vbox
[18:39] <jrib> Shwaiil: if you really want that gnome2 feel though, I'd suggest xfce
[18:39] <lions> ciao
[18:39] <lions> !list
[18:39] <hhhzzzarn> shwaiil, i suggest, you install "gnome-shell" then if you don't like it, install something else
[18:40] <kamired> im new to ubuntu and linux in general, how do i avoid having open myriads upon myriads of terminals?
[18:40] <LSymonds> Shwaiil: Xubuntu is great for replicating gnome 2.
[18:40] <lions> !addon
[18:40] <hhhzzzarn> shwaiil, lubuntu is getting more popular then xubuntu. :)
[18:40] <mxed> use gnome in fallback  and use alt and right klick to add applets
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> next: xubuntu vs mint ;)
[18:40] <mxed> self i do use xfce with emerald and compiz
[18:40] <KM0201> kamired: if you use ubuntu.. you should very rarely have to use the terminal.
[18:41] <KM0201> unlss you just want to (terminal is typically faster)
[18:41] <kamired> i love using the terminal
[18:41] <Technicus> On the 11.04 distrobution, what is the version number for the Gnome Classic desktop?
[18:41] <hhhzzzarn> kamired, you don't need to. the tutorials on web usually shows the terminal method.
[18:41] <gloomer> terminal is why i like linux
[18:41] <KM0201> kamired: thenw hy are you asking how to avoid it
[18:41] <xangua> !info gnome natty | Technicus
[18:41] <aafksab> can any one point me in the right direction, im trying to install a intel graphics driver
[18:41] <kamired> because it gets unwieldy, im sure theres a good way of managing them
[18:42] <hhhzzzarn> your question, messed up my install :( i press i don't agree.
[18:42] <hhhzzzarn> aafksab: i have intel, and i didn't install any drivers.
[18:42] <aafksab> i want accelerated 3d graphics
[18:43] <th^2> okay howto encrypt a virtualbox os?
[18:43] <hhhzzzarn> aafksab: oh, well have you search the web using usefull keywords?
[18:43] <Menthane> I'm using the gnome 3 classic no effects environment. I can see 'Applications' and 'Places' but wheres 'System'?
[18:43] <aafksab> yes, i found something for 11.04 and also the comments said it broke there system
[18:44] <hhhzzzarn> menthane, there is no system since gnome changed.
[18:44] <bekks> th^2: Just the same way as you would do it on "real" hardware.
[18:44] <hhhzzzarn> menthane: i was looking for it too. :)
[18:44] <Menthane> hhhzzzarn How would I open things like process manager? Do I have to make my own shortcut for it?
[18:45] <hhhzzzarn> menthane: the best way would be to open "user settings from drop down" then choose "all settings :)
[18:45] <mxed> this is my ubuntu 11.10 with xfce and compiz
[18:45] <hhhzzzarn> menthane: did i help?
[18:45] <xangua> Menthane: run gnome-control-center
[18:45] <xangua> i believe that is how is called :S if not someone correct me
[18:45] <mxed> and emerald  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/abctm.png/
[18:46] <Boontoo> is anyone here familiar with interpreting smartctl output, or know of a link that describes what to look for specifically? I just collected all of my HDs test results
[18:46] <Boontoo> not sure what to make of it all
[18:46] <DrMax> where is this dialog in 11.10 ? --> http://www.techotopia.com/index.php/Image:Ubuntu_linux_user_privileges2.jpg
[18:47] <Menthane> hhhzzzarn: 'User settings from drop down' what drop down?
[18:47] <jtr__> how do you copy a dir to another location using the cp command ?
[18:48] <dumbo88> - r
[18:48] <Boontoo> do you just look for "Passed" or "failed"?
[18:48] <jtr__> dumbo88: thanks :)
[18:48] <psychx-> Is there a "task manager" style thing in Ubuntu 11.10? I feel like I have a program running, but I can't seem to find it/see it.
[18:48] <Boontoo> whoops
[18:48] <gloomer> psychx ps
[18:48] <DrMax> psychx- : gnome-system-monitor
[18:49] <psychx-> Ah, ok - thanks.
[18:50] <himi> does anyone know why i cant play this stuff?
[18:50] <zykotick9_> gloomer, i'd suggest "top" over "ps".  psychx-
[18:51] <himi> does anyone know why i cant play this stuff? http://sradio.tv/asx/1559.asx
[18:52] <theorem> Boontoo: sure, what do the results look like ?
[18:52] <Boontoo> theorem: well, two of the disks have no error records and say passed, they look great
[18:53] <Boontoo> theorem: but two of them have past failures with airflow regulation
[18:53] <Boontoo> theorem: I can pastebin them
[18:54] <rhizmoe> how do i turn down some of the gui effects in unity?
[18:54] <xangua> rhizmoe: with compiz settins manager
[18:54] <xangua> !ccsm
[18:54] <th^2> rhizmoe, wich effects?
[18:54] <rhizmoe> just glowy fadey stuff
[18:54] <th^2> xangua, you cant do everything with the ccsm
[18:55] <Boontoo> theorem: http://pastebin.com/nbPL7iev
[18:55] <rhizmoe> canonical needs better HCI
[18:56] <theorem> Boontoo: which disk am I looking at ?
[18:56] <theorem> sda ?
[18:56] <theorem> Boontoo: it's still marked as passed
[18:57] <Boontoo> theorem: http://pastebin.com/gSiA3ACr
[18:57] <Boontoo> theorem: yeah, I figured they were fine, I just wanted to make sure that sort of thing was not a problem
[18:57] <theorem> airflow regulation -- that would show up as temperature problems
[18:58] <Boontoo> yeah
[18:58] <theorem> oh, it's #190
[18:58] <Boontoo> 190?
[18:58] <theorem> Boontoo: now that you mention it
[18:58] <theorem> these disks are quite hot
[18:58] <theorem> 72 deg C
[18:58] <Boontoo> yeah
[18:58] <Boontoo> theorem: I just installed on a 2TB disk and it keeps crashing because the partition table reverts to GPT for some reason
[18:58] <TomSlominski> hello.
[18:59] <theorem> Boontoo: are these disks getting enough airflow ?
[18:59] <Boontoo> I cannot find a reason why in my configs...so I am thinking about reorienting everything and adjusting fans
[18:59] <BarkingFish> this is kinda tricky.  I am trying to get help from #ubuntu-ko using Google translate, but I don't think they understand.  It seems English users of Kubuntu can't help me at all.
[18:59] <kamired> google translate to korean sucks balls
[18:59] <kamired> completely useless
[18:59] <Boontoo> theorem: when I opened it up, one of my fans was not moving that was on the HDs, they were also squished pretty tight
[18:59] <zivester> does anyone know how to make gmail my default email client when i click mailto: links ?
[18:59] <ypxu> anyone have audio issues with ubuntu 11.10 ?
[19:00] <TomSlominski> I've got a brand new ubuntu installation and I can't install chrome because I get an error about corrupted file/ lack of permissions. i tried opening both 32 and 64 bit versions as root, but that didn't help
[19:00] <theorem> Boontoo: I would look at the cables and how they sit in the box, this is too warm given the threshold is 30 degrees cooler
[19:00] <bekks> ypxu: Some have, some dont.
[19:00] <TomSlominski> ive got ubuntu installed on an external hard drive over USB and it's set to bootable, could that be the cause?
[19:00] <BerdisSmerdis> ho can I install AMR codecs in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:00] <theorem> Boontoo: this will cause your drives to fail sooner.  I know first hand about bad airflow :-/
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> anyone| ypxu
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| ypxu
[19:00] <Boontoo> theorem: thanks, yeah...I either need more fans, or I need to adjust their position because I have lost a LOT of data
[19:01] <xangua> TomSlominski: better try chromium, is already on repositories and is open source ;)
[19:01] <BarkingFish> kamired: some language channels don't like you speaking english - i at least tried to make an effort and ask first :)
[19:01] <bekks> TomSlominski: sudo apt-get install chromium
[19:01] <TomSlominski> xangua: no, it completely fails on my laptop
[19:01] <bekks> TomSlominski: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[19:01] <theorem> Boontoo: if you have spare $ , consider cooling with liquid if space is a problem
[19:01] <Boontoo> theorem: so where did you derive that temperature reading?
[19:01] <bekks> TomSlominski: Then show us the complete error messages.
[19:01] <theorem> Boontoo: it's the "Value" column, indicating the current reading
[19:01] <BerdisSmerdis> how can I install AMR codecs in ubuntu 10.04?
[19:02] <theorem> Boontoo: your "sping rety count" has also just passred the threshold
[19:02] <theorem> *passed
[19:02] <Boontoo> theorem: but it says 28 and 29?
[19:02] <ypxu> bekks: it seems my audio driver doesn't work well under 11.10. the audio is chopping when watching youtube video.
[19:02] <dcherniv> BerdisSmerdis, libamr
[19:03] <ypxu> MonkeyDust: you'are funny.. :P
[19:03] <theorem> Boontoo: 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   071   037   045    Old_age   Always   In_the_past 29 (36 76 32 27)
[19:03] <TheCowboy> Is there a manual or extended documentation for Quickly? I can't seem to find anything
[19:03] <theorem> 071 is the current temp
[19:03] <TomSlominski> xangua bekks: chromium isn't an option. wait, my computer's having a breakdown
[19:03] <bekks> TomSlominski: Why isnt chromium an option?
[19:03] <dcherniv> BerdisSmerdis, err libopencore-amr[something]
[19:03] <Boontoo> theorem: ah...so it is only on that one drive
[19:03] <rypervenche> TomSlominski: Why is chromium not an option? It's the same thing as Chrome.
[19:04] <theorem> Boontoo: yes, smart only focuses on a single drive at a time
[19:04] <theorem> Boontoo: the red flag is this :   10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
[19:04] <TomSlominski> bekks: it fails on my machine. tried it many times on Ubuntu and Fedora. rypervenche
[19:04] <Boontoo> might not be entirely airflow problem then...
[19:04] <BerdisSmerdis> ok thanks will try to find it in synaptic
[19:04] <recharge> hi.. how do i sync files via gtkpod? I have an iphone 4 and ubuntu 11.10 and i am trying to sync and transfer files.
[19:04] <bekks> TomSlominski: Then show us the complete error messages when trying to install it.
[19:04] <TomSlominski> i dont see why it behaves so badly specifically on my machine, but it does and it's useless to me.
[19:04] <theorem> Boontoo: the disk is telling you it's about to fail based on the number of spin-retries , this is likely due to the temperature
[19:04] <TomSlominski> bekks: i'm getting to it :)
[19:04] <rypervenche> TomSlominski: So you're asknig us to help you get Chrome, which doesn't work, but you refuse to try chromium because it doesn't work either?
[19:05] <Boontoo> theorem: interesting, I might pull that drive then...the other one looks like those errors are missing from the output
[19:05] <TomSlominski> rypervenche: Chrome does work, it just won't install on this new ubuntu installation.
[19:05] <theorem> Boontoo: if it has nothing to record then it won;t show up on the report.  that means it's healthy.
[19:05] <rypervenche> TomSlominski: Lik bekks said, show us what happens whe you try to install chromium-browser.
[19:05] <BerdisSmerdis> ok thanks man that gives me some ideas now
[19:05] <TomSlominski> rypervenche: I'm not installing chromium.
[19:06] <BerdisSmerdis> think it's in medibuntu repo
[19:06] <theorem> Boontoo: I think you just need to cool it off somehow.  check the rated temperature that the drives run at -- if you have a multi-platter disk the temperatures these put out will be more than single-platter disks
[19:06] <theorem> Boontoo: regardless, back it up for safety
[19:07] <recharge> can anyone help me to sync files from ubuntu 11.10 to my iphone 4 through gtkpod..?
[19:07] <theorem> at 72 deg C you're nearly 3/4th the way to boiling water constantly -- just with that drive -- consider how much heat that emits to the surrounding area.
[19:07] <rypervenche> TomSlominski: Then you may find that help will be hard to come by with such an extremist attitude.
[19:07] <xangua> recharge: are you able to mount your iphone¿ what iOS version¿
[19:08] <recharge> xangua, to be honest i dont know what mount and unmount means.. but it seems like my iphone is detected
[19:08] <TomSlominski> rypervenche: what do you mean? I have said that I can't use Chromium and that I need to install chrome. I don't see why I should install chromium, which I know wouldn't work, just because I've been told to.
[19:09] <bekks> TomSlominski: Will you show us the complete error messages you get or not?
[19:09] <theorem> recharge: mount and unmount means that the file system is mounted -- it's a process of mapping a block device for use.
[19:09] <TomSlominski> "Could not open 'google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb' The package might be corrupted or you are not allowed to open the file: please check the permissions of the file."
[19:09] <TomSlominski> please do understand that my system is running off a usb drive so things are slow.
[19:09] <theorem> TomSlominski: ls -la <file>
[19:09] <bekks> TomSlominski: And what are the permissions of the file?
[19:09] <theorem> TomSlominski: ls -la google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[19:10] <Boontoo> theorem: yeah, well rearrangement might help too, I had all of them right on top of eachother near the power supply. I think if I spread them out and now that I fixed the fan. It should be fine
[19:10] <recharge> xangua, do you know how to use gtkpod?
[19:10] <TomSlominski> bekks theorem: -rwxrwxrwx 1 tom tom 24665320 2011-11-13 18:18 google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[19:10] <theorem> TomSlominski: probably corrupted somehow -- snag the md5 and compare ?
[19:10] <cheeseyc> ....so I have no idea where to even start with asking for help because I have probably managed to screw up ubuntu in at least three or four separate ways in one full sweep
[19:10] <bekks> TomSlominski: Did you compare the checksums of the file you downloaded?
[19:11] <theorem> Boontoo: yeah, that will make a big difference, make sure that fans are not blocked externally too
[19:11] <theorem> cheeseyc: hmm ?
[19:11] <TomSlominski> bekks theorem: no, however i downloaded both the 64 and 32 bits version twice so its unlikely that the files are corrupted. could it be the whole drive?
[19:11] <cheeseyc> but essentially: 1) grub boots immediately into rescue mode; I figured out long ago how to get it to load back up, but interestingly grub2 freezes if I don't choose what I want to run within a few minutes
[19:12] <bekks> TomSlominski: Seeing that error message it IS VERY likely that your downloads are corrupted.
[19:12] <theorem> TomSlominski: maybe -- but unlikely  -- get the md5 checksum
[19:12] <TomSlominski> theorem bekks: ok, i'll be right back
[19:12] <theorem> TomSlominski: download is corrupted, but it's not clear what did it.
[19:12] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[19:12] <cheeseyc> 2) so that's not a big deal, I just need to update grub files or reinstall it. however, that's not possible, because upon any attempt to load ubuntu, the screen goes black and stays that way
[19:12] <recharge> i cant get my phone synced by itunes in wine because of this bug and i really thought this gtkpod would make my day.. I used to get it through virtual box (win xp).. how do i sync my iphone in a good way? please?
[19:13] <kamilnadeem> I am having a prob with Chromium/Chrome , here is the details http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=103349
[19:13] <kamilnadeem> does this happens with you guys also?
[19:14] <theorem> Boontoo: hang on a sec-- I just re-read that -- the counter for "Value" indicates the number of times you're passed the threshold
[19:14] <cheeseyc> 3) until I hit the power button, which probably is signalling Ubuntu to wake up, given that I accidentally attempted to suspend my system  - which was doomed to fail. However, then my computer seems to get the message to SHUT OFF, so before Ubuntu can properly load, now realizing it SHOULD, my computer just shuts itself off entirely
[19:14] <theorem> Boontoo: not to worry about the temp.  but do check up about the seek errors.
[19:14] <cheeseyc> so I've had to boot from Windows just to even reach this IRC. anybody have any idea where I can start here, or...?
[19:15] <theorem> cheeseyc: you're giving me a bit too much info --
[19:15] <xangua> recharge: that depends of what do you want to sync, wuth gtkpod you can only manager your ipod/iphone files i believe
[19:16] <theorem> cheeseyc: sounds like you need to boot with a rescue CD for your machine
[19:16] <bekks> kamilnadeem: Works fine here.
[19:16] <kamilnadeem> :(
[19:16] <recharge> xangua, im glad if i can sync my musicfiles or anything at all
[19:16] <theorem> cheeseyc: then you can go about fixing the grub.conf and related kernel files
[19:16] <kamilnadeem> It has happened with me on every distro
[19:17] <Braber01> does anybody know how to configure input on mednafen?
[19:17] <xangua> recharge: you mean sync them with the music you but on the istore¿ or whatever is called
[19:17] <xangua> buy*
[19:17] <cheeseyc> theorem: thanks. not sure how to do that, but it sounds like a good start
[19:18] <recharge> xangua,  can i transfer my music files (i have converted them into mp3) in gtkpod to my iphone?
[19:18] <theorem> cheeseyc: pickup your ubuntu install DVD, it will let you load it is "rescue mode"   from there mount the partitions for /boot or just /  and fix the files .
[19:18] <xangua> recharge: yes, you can
[19:19] <recharge> xangua, well how do i do that.. cause i dont get how to make the sync/transfer
[19:19] <cheeseyc> theorem: mm, didn't go by CD. I didn't have a decent cd on hand when I tried Ubuntu out, so I tried it from a USB first. (I'm new to ubuntu (as in, just a few days)... So...:\)
[19:19] <theorem> cheeseyc: ok, then use the USB, it will do the same thing
[19:19] <theorem> cheeseyc: and you can get online with it too, just boot the USB normally
[19:20] <theorem> cheeseyc: then use either 'irssi' or 'xchat' to get on here
[19:20] <cheeseyc> theorem: cool, thanks. 'll have to do that
[19:20] <theorem> cheeseyc: k, give it a try -- I don;t know how musch longer I'll be here, but if I am I'll help
[19:20] <rhizmoe> well i seem to have compiz'ed unity out of my life, somehow
[19:21] <theorem> rhizmoe: that's a good thing imho :)
[19:21] <rhizmoe> well, except for having to launch through nautilus, sure :)
[19:22] <unkr>  i m using xchat  is there any way so that i can automatically get conected to some defined channel  and  nickserv identify me automatically ??? i dont want to identify myself everytime when i log in to xchat
[19:22] <rhizmoe> how do i get back into compizconfig-settings-manager? bash isn't finding it
[19:22] <TomSlominski> is anyone aware of md5 sums for chrome?
[19:22] <li0s> hello, i have ubuntu 11.10 and when i right click on the desktop i see "create folder" and "create file" but i dont see at all the "create launcher" option
[19:22] <rhizmoe> unkr: if xchat uses anything like an .ircrc, sure
[19:23] <TomSlominski> unkr: look at xchat preferences
[19:23] <xangua> recharge: http://www.gtkpod.org/wiki/IPod_and_content#Adding_files_and_folders
[19:23] <unkr> rhizmoe: how to find that  don't have any idea
[19:23] <TomSlominski> unkr: you can modify the auto connect channels via the server list
[19:24] <unkr> TomSlominski, let me see that
[19:24] <unkr> TomSlominski, how that ??
[19:24] <rhizmoe> unkr: man xchat
[19:24] <unkr> rhizmoe, okk
[19:25] <PrototypeX29A> as a reoccuring event, my gnome spontaneously logs out, when i am typing something. ~/xsession-errors.old looks funny, but i can't make a rhyme: http://pastebin.com/zp1psVXk any ideas, what is causing this?
[19:25] <rhizmoe> so i apparently can't get the dash back? just push me to mint already
[19:25] <unkr> rhizmoe, no manual entry for xchat
[19:25] <rhizmoe> unkr: menu -> help ?
[19:25] <TomSlominski> unlr: sorry, i would elp you but my machine is being really slow
[19:25]  * rhizmoe doesn't use xchat
[19:26] <rhizmoe> also, have you checked for #xchat?
[19:26] <unkr> rhizmoe, okk
[19:27] <rhizmoe> what config file/dir does compiz use?
[19:27] <unkr> rhizmoe, let me try
[19:27] <tegra> can i use ubuntu for routing ?
[19:27] <zkriesse_> #xchat does exist but I might be able to help
[19:27] <bekks> tegra: Yes.
[19:27] <byte_code> anyone tried Mint. Thoughts?
[19:27] <glitchd> its ok
[19:27] <bekks> !ot | byte_code
[19:27] <recharge> xangua, ty i guess i have to re-read it..
[19:27] <glitchd> comes with some stuff already installed
[19:27] <glitchd> byte_code, like java i believe
[19:27] <rhizmoe> "anyone tried Windows. Thoughts?"
[19:27] <glitchd> byte_code, nd some others
[19:27] <zkriesse_> unkr: What's your issue mien freund
[19:27] <byte_code> heh
[19:28] <curfont> I upgraded from 10.4 to 11.10, and now my xorg is wrong, apparently "nvidia" is no longer a driver?
[19:28] <tegra> bekks, how ?
[19:28] <curfont> what is the proper driver for nvidia?
[19:28] <rhizmoe> curfont: reinstall it
[19:28] <curfont> rhizmoe: reinstall what?
[19:28] <curfont> xorg?
[19:28] <rhizmoe> the nvidia driver
[19:28] <glitchd> curfont, nvidia driver
[19:28] <bekks> tegra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[19:28] <hhhzzzarn> good luck with all your problems :)
[19:28] <curfont> glitchd: nvidia-current?
[19:28] <tegra> thanks bekks
[19:28] <hhhzzzarn> i am problem free.
[19:28] <pfifo> this is a somewhat difficult question, by default on the livecd, casper adds the 'ubuntu' user to the admin group so that ubuntu can run sudo without a password, is there a way to preven ubuntu from being added to this group?
[19:29] <rhizmoe> yes, nvidia-current
[19:29] <glitchd> curfont, that sounds like its the newest
[19:29] <glitchd> curfont, so yea?
[19:29] <glitchd> anyone use teamspeak in here?
[19:29] <hhhzzzarn> glitched, not me,.
[19:29] <rhizmoe> pfifo: sure, edit the thing that creates the livecd. it's probably somewhere.
[19:29] <hhhzzzarn> i use teamviewer :)
[19:29] <glitchd> hhhzzzarn, lol thats not it
[19:29] <hhhzzzarn> glitched, i know.
[19:30] <glitchd> hhhzzzarn, yeayea funnyfunny
[19:30] <PrototypeX29A> how can i retry a failed dist upgrade?
[19:30] <zkriesse_>   glitchd I do... Not on linux though
[19:30] <glitchd> zkriesse, well u think u would want to get it real quick nd help me out in trying to see if i set my server up right?
[19:30] <hhhzzzarn> glitched: prototype: i never upgraded, but can you upgrade again?
[19:30] <soulslayer> hey guys i use the have problems with networkmanager  the nm-applet does not see any devices /etc/network/interfaces is empty and managed is set to true in the NetworkManager.conf file
[19:30] <soulslayer> did i miss something
[19:31] <PrototypeX29A> hhhzzzarn: it doesn't give me the option in the update manager
[19:31] <glitchd> hhhzzzarn, what??
[19:31] <hhhzzzarn> glitchd: sry
[19:31] <glitchd> PrototypeX29A, sudo apt-get update
[19:31] <glitchd> hhhzzzarn, np
[19:31] <zkriesse_> glitchd: I will in just a moment, current away from my pc
[19:31] <roby66> ciao
[19:31] <glitchd> zkriesse, ok, well i will continue to try and get someone to help me in the mean time
[19:32] <roby66> !list
[19:32] <theborger> anyone tell me how to set a default sound card? or link me to a readme/man page?
[19:32] <eron> anyone here have exp getting directx installed in wine via mscoree.dll and streamci.dll copyed from a windows system?
[19:32] <hhhzzzarn> prototype: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/upgrade-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-command-line/
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !anyone| theborger eron
[19:32] <soulslayer> i hear that that connman can cause similar issue but i dont have it installed
[19:32] <glitchd> anyone use teamspeak in here?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> lol
[19:32] <rhizmoe> well i think my unity install is pooched
[19:33] <hhhzzzarn> pooched?
[19:33] <rhizmoe> glitchd: we heard you the first time
[19:33] <glitchd> rhizmoe, unity blows
[19:33] <rhizmoe> hhhzzzarn: flat busted
[19:33] <eron> how can I get a copy of mscoree.dll and streamci.dll if i dont have access to a windows system?
[19:33] <rhizmoe> glitchd: really? i couldn't tell.
[19:33] <glitchd> rhizmoe, i can repeat if i like, dont razz me for it
[19:33] <PrototypeX29A> hhhzzzarn: tried that before, but dist-upgrade wouldn't do anything at all then
[19:33] <glitchd> rhizmoe, switch back to gnome
[19:33] <theborger> MonkeyDust, i did ask the real question
[19:33] <myke> hello, i have xubuntu 11.10 on a dell n5030, although the touchpad scroll works, chording the two buttons to emulate middle does not (only 2 buttons).  i see that chordmiddle in the X config has been deprecated, what's the best way to get it back?
[19:34] <rhizmoe> "switch back to gnome" doesn't make sense.
[19:34] <PrototypeX29A> hhhzzzarn: but upgrade is just the normal upgrade, not a distupgradE?
[19:34] <bitcrusher> So I removed unity and installed gnome-shell, but now the bar on the top, the text(maybe the font is frazzled), can't take a screenshot of it because it doesn't take a picture of the bar on the top
[19:34] <glitchd> rhizmoe, in the login screen look at the bottom and choose a different desktop environment
[19:34] <theborger> MonkeyDust: i dont know how else to ask how to set the default sound card. As that is what i need to know, so quit being a troll
[19:34] <cheeseyc> theorem: still here?
[19:34] <glitchd> rhizmoe, what version ububtu?
[19:34] <rhizmoe> oh that. yeah, i haven't played around with those too much.
[19:35] <hhhzzzarn> prototy, try someonbe else, I wouldn't know. :)
[19:35] <rhizmoe> oneiric
[19:35] <glitchd> what version number?
[19:35] <glitchd> 11.?
[19:35] <theorem> cheeseyc: yes
[19:35] <PrototypeX29A> hhhzzzarn: k, thx anyways :)
[19:35] <rhizmoe> it's 11.10, versionwise
[19:35] <bitcrusher> TheBorger you can just change the default sound card under sound settings
[19:35] <rhizmoe> gtk3
[19:35] <hhhzzzarn> rhizmoe, download "gnome-shell" from the software center"
[19:35] <glitchd> rhizmoe, yea what he said
[19:35] <rhizmoe> i think i did that about a month ago
[19:36] <glitchd> so do it again to make sure
[19:36] <theborger> bitcrusher: that does not work, after a reboot, it changes to the internal sound card. I have audio coming out of my hdmi card. it will default back to intel internel sound card after a reboot
[19:36] <rhizmoe> you're also assuming i can get to the software center, since the dash is gone
[19:36] <theborger> win 6
[19:36] <cheeseyc> theorem: got ubuntu to load but it's just the version from the USB, none of my settings or anything. tried other options on the menu but all of them just led me to either a black screen or a no-screen...
[19:36] <soulslayer> does any one knows any configs that affect the network manager except the interfaces file and NetworkManager.conf ?
[19:36] <rhizmoe> i probably can't even log out
[19:36] <soulslayer> or what can possibly cause such issue
[19:36] <hhhzzzarn> rhizmoe, did you use it? log out and click on gear icon, then choose "gnome" and login
[19:36] <jasef> How do I find out what package something is from so I can report a bug for it?
[19:36] <glitchd> rhizmoe, doesnt crtl alt backspace work?
[19:36] <himi> does anyone know how to save this internet radio : http://radio.mediacorp.sg/RadioLive/xfm963.aspx?
[19:37] <bitcrusher> rhizmoe, you can pop a terminal by going cntrl, alt f6 then log in, then install gnome-shell, even restart with sudo reboot
[19:37] <glitchd> himi, i believe save it as a .html file
[19:37] <hhhzzzarn> himi, go to "ubuntu-offtopic"
[19:37] <rhizmoe> i think ctrl-alt-backsp is gonesville in gnome3
[19:37] <theorem> cheeseyc: yes, of course.  you have to load the USB then, you have to get to the terminal from there.  Once you load a terminal then you need to edit the /etc/grub.conf file to make sure it's booting properly....
[19:37] <glitchd> rhizmoe, i believe there is a way to enable it
[19:38] <rhizmoe> bitcrusher: i have a terminal, that's where i'm at.
[19:38] <rypervenche> Did TomSlominski ever come back?
[19:38] <xangua> rhizmoe: tried to see the keyboard settings and see if you can't enable it there¿
[19:38] <rhizmoe> glitchd: there is, but i forget and i don't feel like looking it up
[19:38] <glitchd> rhizmoe, does any desktop load on reboot?
[19:38] <rhizmoe> yes, i have basically a nautilus shell and my regular gnome wallpaper
[19:38] <bitcrusher> rhizmoe: are you trying to start gnome-shell?
[19:38] <himi> glitchd: can i save as stream/playlist so that i can play it next time easier?
[19:39] <glitchd> himi, that sounds like it would work
[19:39] <cheeseyc> theorem: well at least I know how to do that, somewhat
[19:39] <theborger> himi, right click the link where you find it. save as
[19:39] <glitchd> himi, what are u using to play it with?
[19:39] <rhizmoe> huh, gnome-shell did something
[19:39] <hhhzzzarn> rhizmoe: are you on gnome-shell?
[19:39] <rhizmoe> i think so
[19:39] <theorem> cheeseyc: well, it's a bit tricky -- would you like to fix it or start over ?
[19:39] <rhizmoe> how do i select this when logging in?
[19:39] <himi> glitchd, mozilla..
[19:39] <theborger> himi: next time you want to listen to it, click the link you downloaded
[19:39] <rhizmoe> is it just the "gnome" option?
[19:39] <glitchd> himi, well give it a try and see if it works
[19:40] <bitcrusher> rhizmoe: yes select gnome session instead of ubuntu
[19:40] <cheeseyc> theorem: starting over might be easier, not going to lie
[19:40] <glitchd> himi, if not i would suggest downloading and installing VLC to handle media playing
[19:40] <hhhzzzarn> rhizmoe: if you are gnome-shell, then move your mouse over icon and you should see a black backgroun popup.
[19:41] <cheeseyc> theorem: ....particularly as I can't even seem to find grub.conf. etc folder, yes, grub, nope
[19:42] <theorem> cheeseyc: you need to mount the / or /boot partitions manually
[19:42] <theorem> cheeseyc: this means going to the terminal and typing something along the lines of :  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/root
[19:42] <theorem> you would need to create /mnt/root first :    mkdir -p /mnt/root
[19:42] <cheeseyc> theorem: thanks. I understand what things mean but I tend to not know how to do them
[19:43] <himi> glitchd, thank you but what i really  mean is had download it .asx file from the site and it work using totem but after i close it and tried to open it again it said 'error stream'
[19:43] <theorem> cheeseyc: once the disk is mounted then you can open the contents of the files on the disk
[19:43] <rhizmoe> ah, much better. thanks!
[19:43] <bitcrusher> lol going to ask again, anyone know how to fix scrambled text on the top of gnome-shell after you remove unity and replace with gnome-shell?
[19:43] <Neutronym> hi
[19:43] <jtr__> how do i search files using locate without case sensitive behaviour
[19:43] <rhizmoe> maybe unity stole some gtk3 stuff when you removed it
[19:43] <BarkingFish> does anyone here have their PC set up with IME's to type in any of the East Asian languages, like Chinese or Korean please? I desperately need help and can't get my PC to do what I need it to - which is type in Hangul / Hanja using an English keyboard.
[19:44] <Neutronym> some german here
[19:44] <jtr__> !german
[19:44] <Neutronym> ok
[19:44] <jtr__> :)
[19:45] <jtr__> how do i search files using locate without case sensitive behaviour????
[19:45] <cheeseyc> theorem: did that. no apparent effect?
[19:46] <theorem> cheeseyc: so, you have mounted a drive now ?
[19:46] <theorem> see : df
[19:46] <soulslayer> hey guys does anyone here has similar issues with network manager
[19:46] <soulslayer> ?
[19:47] <ubuntu__> I'm into an install of 10.04 now, (dual boot, slackware & ubuntu), and just realized I could have probably just used the /home from the slackware install.  I suppose I can change it after the install.
[19:47] <iceroot> ubuntu__: dont think its a good diea
[19:48] <ubuntu__> Or.... maybe I'll just make mount points for Documents/ and share that?
[19:48] <jtr__> iceroot: he can have more than one /home folders also right
[19:48] <iceroot> ubuntu__: in ~/. there are configs and you are using different software versions with slackware and ubuntu, so both are using the same configs and maybe somethin has changed in the versions
[19:48] <jtr__> iceroot: ok
[19:48] <iceroot> jtr__: of course
[19:49] <ubuntu__> iceroot: That shouldn't matter... right?  What would be different in a /home dir?
[19:49] <iceroot> ubuntu__: my comment is for "using the same user on both distros" everything else is no problem
[19:49] <funnyfingers> Why does Debian go by a whole number like Debian 6 for Ubuntu uses 10.04 LTS for instance?
[19:49] <cheeseyc> theorem: I think so, but I'm not entirely certain given that the partition that'a matching up with my ubuntu files and all has some strange string of a name instead of /dev/sda something. and that string has no data at all, it just gets listed. /dev/sda1 is mounted at /mnt/root
[19:49] <ubuntu__> Oh yea, I'm using the same user name.
[19:49] <iceroot> funnyfingers: why not?
[19:49] <iceroot> ubuntu__: then i would not use /home/username on both distros
[19:50] <theorem> cheeseyc: ok, great then sda1 is your real disk -- ignore everything else
[19:50] <bitcrusher> alright fixed my text... just had to change text size on universal acess
[19:50] <jtr__> ubuntu__: he says to use different user name
[19:50] <cheeseyc> theorem: got it
[19:50] <iceroot> funnyfingers: #debian for there version-coutning. for ubuntu its always YEAR.MONTH
[19:50] <ubuntu__> jtr__: Too late.
[19:50] <theorem> cheeseyc: navigate to there and edit /mnt/root/etc/grub.conf
[19:50] <jtr__> ubuntu__: still can change, can he ? iceroot?
[19:50] <funnyfingers> iceroot just wondering as you can still call CentOS 5.7 CentOS 5 with the latest update...
[19:50] <ubuntu__> Shouldn't matter though... it's on separate partitions.
[19:50] <jtr__> ubuntu__: then ok
[19:50] <funnyfingers> Can you call Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Ubuntu 10?
[19:50] <iceroot> funnyfingers: no
[19:50] <bekks> funnyfingers: No.
[19:50] <ubuntu__> We'll see what happens.
[19:51] <Nach0z> lol no.
[19:51] <iceroot> funnyfingers: because there is 10.04 and 10.10
[19:51] <funnyfingers> right this is why I am asking
[19:51] <cheeseyc> theorem: once again I'm just getting a blank file
[19:51] <jtr__> ubuntu__: that is always the case :D
[19:51] <theorem> note that the mount point defines the part from which your local directory structure and the disk structure diverge ... /mnt/root is this point --- consider it the '/' of your regular install
[19:51] <iceroot> funnyfingers: which are different releases with different repos and software
[19:51] <funnyfingers> SO was Ubuntu 10 released and then major bugs found that advanced it to 10.04 and then that was considered stable?
[19:51] <theorem> cheeseyc: show me the contents of that directory ?
[19:51] <bekks> funnyfingers: Debian uses another versioning system - ubuntu uses YEAR.MONTH
[19:51] <bekks> funnyfingers: No.
[19:51] <iceroot> funnyfingers: only 10.04 and 10.10 there is no 10.0
[19:51] <bekks> 10.04 was released in Aptil 2010
[19:51] <ubuntu__> theorem: Was that for me?
[19:51] <theorem> ubuntu__: no
[19:52] <funnyfingers> oh ok I gotcha.
[19:52] <iceroot> funnyfingers: i already told you that its always YEAR.MONTH so one was releaed 20(10).(04)
[19:52] <funnyfingers> And what determined that 10.04 went to LTS and not 10.10?
[19:52] <iceroot> funnyfingers: the other 20(10).(10)
[19:52] <iceroot> funnyfingers: mark shuttleworth
[19:52] <bekks> funnyfingers: Because every two years the april release becomes a LTS version.
[19:52] <bekks> funnyfingers: 8.04, 10.04, 12.04
[19:53] <cheeseyc> theorem: going into /mnt/root gives me 8 folders: boot, asuslog, disables3s4, efi, expressgate, expressgateutil, $recycle.bin and sources, along with some logs
[19:53] <funnyfingers> ah ok makes more sense to me now:)
[19:53] <jtr__> people tell me how to locate a dir in whole system using locate , but not be case sensitive
[19:53] <theorem> cheeseyc: hmm, ok ... where if your /etc ?   did this get removed somehow ?
[19:53] <kevrickjam> hello i need help installing ubuntu
[19:53] <iceroot> bekks: what about 6.06 :)
[19:53] <theorem> *where is
[19:54] <bekks> iceroot: That wasnt an april release ;)
[19:54] <iceroot> bekks: but lts :)
[19:54] <kevrickjam> i need help plz
[19:54] <jtr__> kevrickjam: tell
[19:54] <iceroot> bekks: imo
[19:54] <iceroot> !6.06
[19:55] <jtr__> !11.10!eol
[19:55] <guntbert> jtlap: try locate -i <pattern>
[19:55] <cheeseyc> theorem: my normal / folder seems to all be in this other spot: it gets labelled as "109 GB Filesystem", but seems to be named 46a0b7cb-578b... and the string of numbers/letters goes on from there
[19:55] <soulslayer> guys does anyone know a reason for malfunctional nm-applet ?
[19:55] <jtr__> guntbert: u said that to me right?
[19:55] <cheeseyc> it's listed as a separate partition I think like OS and DATA are as usual :\
[19:55] <soulslayer> except the interfaces file
[19:55] <jtr__> guntbert: i tried i dont think it is similar to find
[19:55] <MishkaEchoes> with two video cards why wont it let me extend the display using twin view on the second card?
[19:56] <MishkaEchoes> I don't fully understand xscreen
[19:56] <theorem> cheeseyc: the string is not important now , just hte mount point --- it looks like you got rid of the etc folder which allows you to boot and holds system configuration files -- what happened to cause this ?
[19:56] <guntbert> jtr__: read man locate, I did :)
[19:56] <bekks> cheeseyc: Nopaste the output of the following commands please: lsb_release -a; sudo fdisk -l
[19:56] <bekks> cheeseyc: and "df -h" along with "mount".
[19:56] <cheeseyc> theorem: No, no I have the etc folder and boot and bin and all of that
[19:56] <jtr__> guntbert: it says it will work ? the "-i" thing ?
[19:56] <RandomRoger> how can I remove an application uncluding all its configuration, so I can get a clean slate ?
[19:56] <jtr__> guntbert: i will read
[19:56] <theorem> cheeseyc: oh ! good, then we just need to read the etc folder and open the grub.conf to see if everything is ok
[19:57] <theorem> cheeseyc: you said it was missing before.
[19:57] <xangua> RandomRoger: remove the configuration files in your home
[19:57] <RandomRoger> Yeah, I was going to but I dont see a .kvirc config in my home folder
[19:57] <theorem> RandomRoger: apt-get uninstall <app>
[19:57] <cheeseyc> theorem: ...and there's no grub.conf in the etc file. many other .confs but not grub
[19:57] <RandomRoger> theorem: that only uninstall its, when I reinstall the app the old config is still active
[19:57] <theorem> k, hnag , let me see ..
[19:57] <jtr__> guntbert: thanks , got it, but i tried that before didn't work , so i thought otherwise  , maybe i was writing the parameters in wrong order or something
[19:57] <mago_> good mornigt
[19:58] <theorem> RandomRoger: that's by design.  find the config file and remove it, everything else normally goes.
[19:58] <mago_> existe un canal en español
[19:58] <RandomRoger> Ok thanks
[19:58] <ubuntu__> Well, I'm about to find out what happens, the install is 95% done.
[19:58] <RandomRoger> By chance does anyone know where kvirc keeps its config file ?
[19:58] <ubuntu__> done....
[19:58] <iceroot> RandomRoger: ~/.kvirc ?
[19:59] <RandomRoger> I thought it would be but its not
[19:59] <mago_> como entro a un canal en español
[19:59] <jtr__> ubuntu_: two different partitons , then no problem
[19:59] <jtr__> ubuntu_: nothing common
[19:59] <xangua> !es | mago_{
[20:00] <theorem> cheeseyc: ok, I must be wrong on the grub.conf location --- I have to run right now --- can someone else help cheeseyc fix his boot options ?  he has the right partition mounted !
[20:00] <jasef> RandomRoger, it's in ~/.config/KVIrc by default
[20:00] <cheeseyc> theorem: *she, thank you for your help so far
[20:00] <RandomRoger> Thanks jasef
[20:00] <theorem> cheeseyc: if push comes to shove you can back things up now since the drive is mounted
[20:00] <antnash_> anyone about that might be able to help me get my DVB card working? no errors are being flagged up in dmesg, but it's not able to scan any channels
[20:00] <urlin2u> Random832, hit crtl-h to show hidden files
[20:01] <cheeseyc> theorem: alright. again, thanks
[20:01] <theorem> cheeseyc: ok, those female points should help you here ;-)
[20:01] <theorem> cheeseyc: sorry I can;t stay to help :-/
[20:01] <mago_> tranks
[20:01] <cheeseyc> theorem: no problem, I know how it is.  you've been a great help so far already
[20:02] <soulslayer> is here the proper place about NetworkManager questions
[20:02] <soulslayer> ?
[20:02] <bekks> cheeseyc: Will you nopaste the command outputs questioned?
[20:03] <cheeseyc> bekks: I'm not sure what you're asking; sorry about my horrible newbieness
[20:04] <|Long|> hi guys, i have 16 hard drives here what kind raid can combined all 16 devices?
[20:05] <kyubutsu> !raid | |Long|
[20:05] <|Long|> thanks, kyubutsu
[20:05] <E_Roc> Hey guys, I was wondering how is it possible to remove windows now that I don't want to dual boot anymore.
[20:05] <MishkaEchoes> is this available? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbwNMnNUGFA
[20:05] <MishkaEchoes> is there a guide?
[20:06] <jtr__> E_Roc: delete the partition ?
[20:06] <jtr__> E_Roc: do you want your windows data?
[20:06] <E_Roc> how do you do that? using kubuntu
[20:06] <richard3> i want to install newer version of firefix on a new install of lubuntu.  Synaptic only has version 7.  what do i do
[20:06] <E_Roc> nah I want to wipe it clean with security
[20:06] <E_Roc> for security **
[20:06] <Boontoo> is anyone here familiar with a program that can do automated backups within an individual PC, I am looking at rsync...RAID was too much for me to manage
[20:06] <jtr__> E_Roc: u can try gparted"
[20:06] <E_Roc> gparted?
[20:07] <jtr__> E_Roc: yes in terminal type sudo apt-get install gparted
[20:07] <jtr__> E_Roc: it is a partition manangement tool
[20:07] <Boontoo> I am looking for a program that will basically mirror one disc automatically for a specified time period
[20:07] <electronplusplus> find . -name '*.c'
[20:07] <electronplusplus> what does the dot is for?
[20:07] <E_Roc> Btw, do you think its a good idea to install kubuntu on a 40gb hdd, 512 RAM and 1.40 processor?
[20:07] <E_Roc> ok ill try gparted thanks.
[20:07] <cheeseyc> anybody feel like helping me at least get grub back in order...? bekks: if you can rephrase/simplify your question?
[20:08] <jtr__> electronplusplus: its a pattern u wrote , all files with .c in them will show up, but the first dot means current directory
[20:08] <electronplusplus> jtr__:  thanks :)
[20:08] <Spyros> cheeseyc, for grub2 : grub2-mkconfig > /boot/grub2/grub.cfg  and grub2-install /dev/sd?
[20:08] <jtr__> electronplusplus: with .c in their file names , not content
[20:09] <jtr__> E_Roc: i dont exactly know, but u can check the kubuntu page for exact and recommended requirements
[20:10] <E_Roc> o geeze thanks jtr
[20:10] <jtr__> E_Roc: :)
[20:11] <cheeseyc> spyros: err it's a bit more complicated than that I think - right now I'm not even on my normal Ubuntu profile, I'm booted off a USB because grub 1) boots in rescue mode first 2) freezes a few after I get it working 3) black-screens when I try to load Ubuntu, though my windows loader works fine
[20:11] <alexej> hi, I have a problem with screen - as a user, I get the message "sorry, could not find a pty", I'm running ubuntu 10.04, I also looked up google and forums but didn't find a solution
[20:11] <cheeseyc> spyros: I managed to mount the partition everything's on but I'm very much lost from there on just how to fix or reinstall grub
[20:12] <Spyros> cheeseyc, then it's not grub ;)
[20:12] <cheeseyc> spyros: ...then I literally have no idea where to go to try and fix anything
[20:13] <Spyros> cheeseyc, can you get to Gtrl+Alt+F1
[20:13] <Spyros> cheeseyc, at the end
[20:13] <Spyros> cheeseyc, in the black screen
[20:14] <alexej> ok i just found a solution, this did the trick "mknod --mode 666 /dev/ptmx c 5 2" but at the moment I do not really understand what it do exactly :D
[20:15] <cheeseyc_> Spyros: Given that my laptop just froze up like crazy when I pressed that, probably not
[20:15] <cheeseyc_> (I'm on irc via my phone)
[20:16] <Spyros> cheeseyc, my pc freezes when it enters graphical mode,
[20:17] <MishkaEchoes> is there really no easy way to configure quad monitors on ubuntu
[20:17] <Spyros> cheeseyc, i was  wondering if you could enter through recovery and then do
[20:17] <Spyros> cheeseyc, see at which point it freezes
[20:18] <Spyros> MishkaEchoes, wanna seee that1!
[20:18] <cheeseyc_> Spyros: at which point what freezes specifically? because I have all my freeze spots well and truly memorized
[20:18] <Fodi69> hi, is there anything for unix that is compatible with windows media sharing (streaming) ??
[20:19] <qmanjr5> Is it possible to use wget on a Tor (.onion) address?
[20:19] <MishkaEchoes> Spyros, I'm sorry that1! is a program?
[20:20] <|Long|> hi, who here good with LVM? need ask some Q&A plz
[20:20] <Spyros> MishkaEchoes, srry my typo
[20:20] <Spyros> MishkaEchoes, 1 on the keyboard has the exclamation mark , i mispressed:D
[20:21] <Fodi69> hi, is there anything for linux that is compatible with windows media sharing (streaming) ??
[20:21] <Spyros> MishkaEchoes, i would like to see that!
[20:21] <Spyros> cheeseyc, does it enter recovery mode?
[20:22] <MishkaEchoes> guess its back to windows for me
[20:22] <PrototypeX29A> MishkaEchoes: if you can affort it, it is always the best option :()
[20:23] <cheeseyc> If you mean grub, it goes directly to rescue mode when I turn on my computer. I figured out how to boot from there on my own ages ago using hd0,7. But grub2 still --
[20:23] <bradj> Late last night my server started having a high CPU load, apparently from mysql running away - when it's up it spawns a bunch of xargs processes... any thoughts what's happening?
[20:23] <qmanjr5> Is it possible to use wget on a Tor (.onion) address?
[20:23] <iankp> How does one find out the dpi of a JPEG image?
[20:23] <cheeseyc> -- freezes up shortly after, and if I manage to pick ubuntu prior to the freeze, then that boot stops at a black screen shortly after I get a blinking underscore.
[20:24] <Fodi69> hi, is there anything for linux that is compatible with windows media sharing (streaming) ??
[20:24] <cheeseyc> FYI: am at grub rescue right now.
[20:25] <Spyros> MishkaEchoes, read "randr", and "Identifier "LeftMon" in man xorg.conf (http://pastebin.com/bkvRG1mu:)
[20:25] <urlin2u> cheeseyc, have you run the bootscript to see if there is something amiss, and checked the graphic diver setup for the black screen.
[20:25] <urlin2u> driver*
[20:25] <Spyros> MishkaEchoes, man xrandr
[20:26] <cheeseyc> urlin2u: as usual I know what you're asking but have no idea how to actually do it
[20:26] <macs> I installed clownfish on my ubuntu machine and i cant remove it.
[20:26] <n3glv> hi guys
[20:26] <n3glv> when trying to download a file I get this error
[20:27] <n3glv> . /tmp/1Fn5aOKy.deb.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.
[20:27] <n3glv> is this permissions on /tmp/ ??
[20:27] <Spyros> cheeseyc, if the services do not start and it freezed before then it could be the kernel
[20:27] <n3glv> or maybe a firefox fart?
[20:28] <mentoc> Suits me right for walking into #ubuntu and reading "firefox fart"....
[20:28] <n3glv> LOL
[20:28] <n3glv> aww cum on now
[20:28] <n3glv> ;-p
[20:28] <mentoc> lolz
[20:28] <n3glv> freuidian slit?
[20:28] <mentoc> n3glv, what's making your firefox ..... ?
[20:28] <urlin2u> cheeseyc, boot the ubuntu cd and run the script hereare two links the script and the grub 2 page, not real familiar myself with drivers though. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2 Some also use the boot repair app by loading the ppa on the live cd and installing and running it, post the script if you want.
[20:29] <n3glv> ubu 10.10
[20:29] <cheeseyc> Spyros: considering that the last time I was actually on my ubuntu I think I accidentally attempted and failed to suspend?
[20:29] <n3glv> cheeseyc: that sounds like some partly broken apic support
[20:30] <soulslayer> guys does some one knows why nm-applet cant find any network devices here i have clean the /etc/network/interfaces file and set the managed value in the NetworkManager.conf to true
[20:30] <soulslayer> tried restarting dbus ...
[20:30] <soulslayer> but still nothing
[20:30] <soulslayer> the nm applet says Error getting 'WirelessHardwareEnabled'
[20:31] <cheeseyc> to all: im pretty sure my problem is about 3 things at once and that's not including how new I am to ubuntu.
[20:31] <n3glv> soulslayer: some systems I have heard about a softswitch or something, for wifi on/off
[20:31] <urlin2u> soulslayer, have you posted the wireless card this command will identify it.  lspci | grep -i wireless
[20:32] <kyubutsu> repo
[20:32] <soulslayer> urlin2u, its atheros chip and the driver is ok
[20:32] <soulslayer> because i can scan with it
[20:32] <soulslayer> and its fully operational using iwconfig
[20:32] <cheeseyc> urlin2u: Ill look at those.
[20:32] <soulslayer> the same thing happens with the ethernet adapter too
[20:32] <n3glv> what ver freepbx? 11.10?
[20:33] <n3glv> oops
[20:33] <n3glv>  I meant ubuntu
[20:33] <soulslayer> i can use it like dhclient or setup it maualy from xterm
[20:33] <soulslayer> but the nm-applet says there is no available devieces
[20:33] <n3glv> soulslayer: 11.10?
[20:33] <urlin2u> soulslayer, you say it scans yet say "cant find any network devices"
[20:33] <popsch> which package contains ubuntu's desktop backgrounds?
[20:33] <soulslayer> urlin2u, the nm-applet cant find any network devices
[20:33] <soulslayer> n3glv,  oneric ocelot
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> !info | popsch
[20:34] <soulslayer> minimal installation i install xorg and xfce manualy because of the small hdd of the device
[20:34] <n3glv> sorry I don't go out of my way to memorize such names as heaving hemmorhoid
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-artwork
[20:34] <n3glv> give me digits
[20:35] <n3glv> and I'm not willing to go look up a cutsiepie name to try and help someone for free
[20:35] <soulslayer> n3glv, :D its 11.10 :D the latest ubuntu
[20:35] <n3glv> 11.10 makes changes off of gnome
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: 11.10 == oneiric
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: if that's what you mean
[20:35] <djino> Hi, I am using the 'configure' program to install something from source. It complains that a specific dependency it requires is out of date. I have the dependency installed in a different directory, i.e. /opt/foo/bin/foo  instead /usr/bin/foo. Can I somehow provide the different folder to 'configure' as an option?
[20:35] <n3glv> and it would not surprise me if they broke what used to be gnome network manager
[20:36] <qmanjr5> How would I use wget on a .onion (from Tor) address?
[20:36] <soulslayer> n3glv, do you have any suggestions ?
[20:36] <n3glv> other than I can't stand 11.10 and ended up reformatting and going back to 10.10?
[20:36] <n3glv> no
[20:36] <popsch> ActionParsnip, thanks a lot.
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: what's up with 11.10?
[20:36] <soulslayer> damn
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> popsch: np man :)
[20:37] <n3glv> stupid desktop
[20:37] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, the nm-applet cant find network devices
[20:37] <n3glv> unity crap
[20:37] <soulslayer> but the devices are there and fully operational
[20:37] <soulslayer> n3glv, i dont have unity installed
[20:37] <n3glv> can't get my gnome desktop back
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: that's only gnome, you can use xfce, kde, lxde and others and STILL use oneiric
[20:37] <soulslayer> its xfce + NetworkManager and nm-applet
[20:37] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: tried to stay with main branch
[20:37] <n3glv> failed misserably
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: my desktop looks no different from Karmic to now
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: there is no main branch
[20:38] <n3glv> I use 10.10 but select ubuntu desktop, that's what I want to see, gnome
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: all the desktops in the repos are equally supported and developed
[20:38] <n3glv> not a sill swelling mac-like mess and a taskbar I can't edit.
[20:38] <Fodi69> hi, is there anything for linux that is compatible with windows media sharing (streaming) ??
[20:38] <qmanjr5> How would I use wget on a .onion (from Tor) address?
[20:38] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: the UPGRADE button puts me on 11.10-useless
[20:38] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u: I ran the script but I'm honestly not sure what I'm looking for in the results
[20:39] <soulslayer> guys dont want to interrupt you but lets dont make that religious fight
[20:39] <n3glv> ok /tmp/1Fn5aOKy.deb.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.
[20:39] <n3glv> issue
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: install xfce, it looks and runs a lot like original desktop. Gnome2 is a dead project so you will eventually need to move
[20:39] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, do you have any suggestions how can i make the nm-applet find the network devices ?
[20:39] <n3glv> am stuck in the midst of a project because 10.10 wet the bed
[20:39] <urlin2u> cheeseyc, post it in a pastebin we can take a look.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: tried wicd instead
[20:39] <n3glv> can't download the tool I need to continue
[20:39] <n3glv> am loosing $75/hr
[20:40] <cheeseyc_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/737653/
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: as long as there is a driver for the interface, it can be used
[20:40] <n3glv> ya, wicd is nice
[20:40] <Resistance> n3glv:  i'm going to ask you to stop whining... whining doesnt help you get support.
[20:40] <Fodi69> hi, is there anything for linux that is compatible with windows media sharing (streaming) ??
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Fodi69: samba
[20:40] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, wicd is replacement for the NetworkManager daemon and the nm-applet both or just the daemong ?
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Fodi69: shares the folder which you can then map as a network drive and stream from
[20:41] <n3glv> wicd does all networking
[20:41] <n3glv> and is nice
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: nm-applet is just the thing that appears in the panel, network manager is the bit doing the work.
[20:41] <Fodi69> how hard it is to install samba for a beginner?
[20:41] <soulslayer> yep i just wonderd  does wicd has something similar to nm-applet
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Fodi69: its just like any other package, sudo apt-get -y install samba
[20:42] <cheeseyc_> (fyi I'm just switching between phone/laptop irc, cheeseyc and cheeseyc_, as is convenient. so yes I'm still here.)
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: yes, it has a panel item
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: it also has wicd-curses and you can configure in a nice curses cli environment
[20:42] <n3glv> cheeseyc_: if you are on irc a lot, look into znc
[20:43] <n3glv> I am on 3 pcs at the moment
[20:43] <n3glv> two at home and 1 @ library
[20:43] <soulslayer> and is it works well with usb broadband 3g donggles ?
[20:43] <urlin2u> cheeseyc, grub is looking at the wrong partition sda8 should be sda7 use the grub 2 link and try the load grub from cd or chroot it ith commands below that option on that page.
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: I'm not sure it does 3G stuff
[20:43] <n3glv> soulslayer: I never tried it with my evdo, since I gave up the service before I saw wicd, but it shold.
[20:43] <n3glv> should rather
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/3GUsbModem
[20:44] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u: I already know that's what it's doing; that's what I work around every time grub rescue pops up. I've become very used to typing set prefix=(hd0,7)/boot/grub by now
[20:44] <n3glv> soulslayer: you have checked for proprietary drivers in ubuntu?
[20:44] <hasek791> i need help with my permissions
[20:44] <soulslayer> n3glv, its not a driver problem
[20:44] <urlin2u> cheeseyc_, if you know how to manual boot into the ubuntu you can just run a update-grub that should do it, did you install startup manager to change the default boot OS?
[20:44] <soulslayer> the interfaces are fully operational
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: what happens when you boot, is the device not ready?
[20:45] <soulslayer> it is all the interfaces are up and runing just the network manager cand find them
[20:45] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u: again, that's the problem - I can use grub /after/ using the rescue thing, but I can't actually boot into ubuntu because then I get a black screen or else grub freezes up before I can.
[20:45] <hasek791> when i put in a usb drive or device and when i try to eject it it tell me i dont have permission and im not the owner which doesnt make sense
[20:46] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u: so then I'm stuck only able to access ubuntu via booting off the USB into the ubuntu default, and not sure how to update or reinstall grub from tehre
[20:46] <cheeseyc_> *there
[20:46] <n3glv> hasek791: you use sudo?
[20:46] <n3glv> and/or do you have your user logging in automatically?
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: and what do you need to do to make it ok?
[20:47] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u: additonally it's worth note that my windows 7 side works just fine, but obviously I can't really get anything done from there and like it far less
[20:47] <hasek791> i have to.. i got a shortcut in my dock sudo nautlis just so i can eject things
[20:47] <soulslayer> i dont realy know i have everything setuped network-manager daemon ... nm-applet
[20:47] <soulslayer> but the nm-applet just says no available network devices
[20:48] <n3glv> this is rediculous
[20:48] <soulslayer> tell me about it
[20:48] <soulslayer> :)
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: if you unload then reload the module, does it work?
[20:48] <soulslayer> i havent tried that
[20:48] <urlin2u> cheeseyc_, unless there is a ascpi problem as suggested or other hardware problems the black screen and grub are only connected by you not seoerating the fix on these, use a nomodeset boot to fix the black screen reload grub fron=m the usb boot with the grub 2 link posted, then fix the graphic driver or put m=nomodeset in the kernel line permanently.
[20:48] <soulslayer> just a second
[20:49] <urlin2u> cheeseyc_, sorry for the miss spells
[20:49] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u: nomodeset boot? (it's fine, I understood)
[20:50] <hasek791> how can i fix it so i can just eject flash drives without using sude
[20:50] <hasek791> sudo
[20:50] <Lobosque> hello, when I switch to console (ctrl+alt+f1) it does not use full resolution. how can I fix this?
[20:51] <Spyros> Lobosque, it's about framebuffer >> google;)
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> hasek791: what is the output of:  groups
[20:51] <Spyros> Lobosque, uvesafb i think
[20:52] <Spyros> Lobosque, what card do you use?
[20:52] <ab5tra> anyone know c?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> ab5tra: try in #c
[20:53] <ab5tra> ok thank you!
[20:53] <Lobosque> Spyros radeon 5850
[20:53] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, nope the same issue
[20:53] <ab5tra> it says invite only :(
[20:53] <soulslayer> maybe its something about the dbus
[20:53] <soulslayer> and thats why nm-applet cant send message
[20:53] <soulslayer> .. ?
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: if you run:   sudo rfkill list    are they blocked any?
[20:53] <ab5tra> any reason why the C room is invite only, any other sugggeestions?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> ab5tra: get yourself registered and identified and you can enter
[20:54] <urlin2u> cheeseyc_, nomodeset for the black screen (low graphics), grub reload for booting. To be honest it is hard to tell exactly whats going on but these are not guesses on my part the boot script shows a wrong set up can be fixed by reloading grub generally. Black screen generally dealt with by inserting nomodeset in the kernel, until the graphics are set up. This is if no other problems are happening.
[20:54] <ab5tra> alright thanks
[20:55] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, no
[20:55] <soulslayer> everythink is no
[20:55] <itsnotabigtruck> has anyone played around with apparmor? do you think it's worth it to spend time defining new apparmor policies for daemons
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[20:55] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u, alright, thanks. I reinstalled grub - I think/hope - but again, you're dealing very much with a n00b right now who isn't sure how to exactly to insert nomodeset in the kernel
[20:55] <soulslayer> yes
[20:56] <soulslayer> ... i see i can connect from the command line
[20:56] <urlin2u> !nomodeset cheeseyc_
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: what is the wireless interface name?
[20:56] <soulslayer> wlan0
[20:56] <soulslayer> all of the interfaces are fully operational
[20:56] <soulslayer> i can connect to my home dhcp server
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: weird, sounds like everything is in order
[20:56] <soulslayer> yep it is
[20:56] <soulslayer> just the nm-applet
[20:56] <soulslayer> cannot get any devices information
[20:56] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | cheeseyc_
[20:57] <soulslayer> canoot send message
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: try killing nm-applet then reload it
[20:57] <dimas_> could someone explain me about the ubuntu 11.10 desktop?....only can see the ubuntu 2d
[20:57] <cheeseyc_> ubottu: thanks
[20:57] <Spyros> Lobosque, there was a problem in the past you could either have framebuffer or 3d graphics,
[20:57] <cheeseyc_> urlin2u: thank you very much
[20:57] <Spyros> Lobosque, but you can see if radeonfb i think and fglrx cooperate;)
[20:58] <urlin2u> cheeseyc_, no problem.
[20:58] <urlin2u> ;
[20:59] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, tried it
[20:59] <soulslayer> no success
[20:59] <Spyros> Lobosque, try modprobe radeonfb in the command line to see what happens
[21:00] <Spyros> Lobosque, (you might have to comment out radeonfb from some file in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist?? )
[21:01] <TehAndrewRyan_> I need some help quick. I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 as a server for Minecraft (desktop version) but I used Ctrl + Alt + F1 to enter nogui-mode. For some reason it won't let me log in when I restart the computer. And not only that, I need to copy the server folder over to a USB-stick, but Ubuntu doesn't recognise it if I /cd /media   and then  ls  . What am I supposed to do?
[21:01] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, pastebin.com/CgdcvDnj
[21:01] <soulslayer> see that
[21:02] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: what you wrote does not make much sense to me
[21:02] <TehAndrewRyan_> Also, typing startx returns errors and doesn't start X
[21:02] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: what do you need more info about then?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594566
[21:02] <tiox> Does an ISO with all official versions of Ubuntu for DVD exist?
[21:02] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: state clearly and concisely what you want to accomplish.  If you made some attempt to accomplish it, then also say exactly what you did and exactly what the outcome was
[21:02] <wunnle> hey all
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> tiox: sure
[21:03] <pugvader> moo
[21:03] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: When I mean it doesn't let me login, I mean that when I try to login with GUI, after typing the passwd a terminal flashes and then it goes back to the login screen
[21:03] <tiox> ActionParsnip: Link?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> tiox: which release do you want?
[21:03] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: what do you want to accomplish?
[21:03] <tiox> 11.10, ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu
[21:03] <Spyros> TehAndrewRyan, try changing the session
[21:03] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: What I want to accomplish is that I want to either start Ubuntu with GUI, but if that doesn't work I want to copy a folder from Ubuntu to a USB-stick that Ubuntu doesn't recognise
[21:03] <Spyros> TehAndrewRyan, srry wrong
[21:03] <wunnle> i removed default video player and i'm just using smplayer now. but my video thumbnails disappered. what should i do?
[21:03] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: can you login at a tty?
[21:03] <TehAndrewRyan_> Spyros: How?
[21:04] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: What's a tty?
[21:04] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: what you see when you press ctrl-alt-f1
[21:04] <Spyros> TehAndrewRyan, nevermind see ~/.xsession-error
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> tiox: 32bit or 64bit?
[21:04] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, i dont have that installed
[21:04] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: Right now I'm logged in with nogui mode
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: does the bug link give any hints
[21:05] <tonyyarusso> tiox: I *think* these images have everything you need - at least they used to:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso / http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[21:05] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: If I press Ctrl Alt F1 it goes back to the login screen, in nogui mode (a terminal)
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> tonyyarusso: nice :)
[21:05] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, no ...
[21:05] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: can you login at ctrl-alt-f1?
[21:05] <soulslayer> i dont have connman installed and the configs are like they said
[21:05] <soulslayer> i change manged to true
[21:05] <soulslayer> same thing
[21:05] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: Yes, I can log in at the user from there
[21:05] <tiox> Oh, I'll take 8.
[21:05] <tiox> (Funny Let's Play reference no one may ever get)
[21:06] <tiox> But yeah, I'll have both.
[21:06] <nd456> my ubuntu will display a blank cursor after grub and when i press a button on the keyboard or power button it will then boot dose anyone have any idea's?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> tiox: sweet
[21:06] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: then read ~/.xsession-errors to figure out why your session is quitting, use a different session type, or create a new user and log in as the new user
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> nd456: are you using an nvidia gpu by any chance?
[21:06] <nd456> yes i an
[21:06] <nd456> am*
[21:07] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: How do I create a new user?
[21:07] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: adduser USERNAME
 I have had ubuntu for years and not had a problem like this...
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> nd456: the driver doesn't load fast enough to show the boot splash if you use the nvidia driver, so it won't show. There are steps you can take to make it load the fb driver during boot
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> nd456: its a common issue
[21:08] <gsr> hi all.  I have a few services (ie mysql) that are starting on boot - I want to disable this.  I tried update-rc.d -f mysql remove, but it can't find anything in /etc/init.d to remove.
[21:08] <Kirbyblade0|Wii> Wow, quite alot of people here.
[21:08] <gsr> how do I find whats starting them?
[21:09] <puff> My sound mysteriously stopped working.
[21:09] <puff> I tried the volume knobs and worked through the troubleshooting steps, no dice. Any ideas?
 humm... well im going to reupdate to 11.10 after a wipe back to 10.04... but how can i fix this when i reupdate?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> puff: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse; rm -r ~/.pulse-cookie
[21:09] <cheeseyc> Thank you again everybody who helped me, particularly urlin2u. Just one last issue I think - networking is disabled and I don't know why?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> nd456: i ca give a link if you want
 what would be fantastic
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> nd456: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> nd456: personally I wouldn't bother
 it would explain why somtimes i have a 640x640 resolution
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> nd456: its the boot screen, it is around for about 0 seconds, and the OS does load, so who cares
[21:10] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: I don't have permission to mount the USB-stick from my new account, how do I add that?
[21:11] <cheeseyc> ...never mind :) /leaves
[21:11] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: assuming your usb stick uses vfat, if you just plug in your usb stick it should be automounted and your user should be allowed to modify it.  If you need this new user to have sudo access, you must add him to the "admin" group: adduser USERNAME admin
[21:12] <nd456> ActionParsnip> wait, i think this is a different issue... grub dose its thing then a blank cursor comup and stay's untill i press a button on my keyboard or the power button (hdd activity light goe's off untill i presss a button
[21:12] <puff> ActionParsnip: And then what, reboot?
[21:13] <puff> ActionParsnip: Or restart pulseaudio?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> puff: pulseaudio restarts itself :), try some sound apps
[21:13] <puff> ActionParsnip: Still nothing.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> puff: if you run:   alsamixer     are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[21:14] <puff> ActionParsnip: Everything except analog mic boost.
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> nd456: remove the boot options:  quiet splash     then you can watch the bootup, may give clues
[21:14] <puff> ActionParsnip:  I don't see any sign of mute, how do i turn it on/.off?
[21:15] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: How come I can't login with GUI on my standard account?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> puff: all I can suggest is a reboot, my sound troubleshooting is basic at best
[21:15] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: see the first suggestion I gave  you (regarding ~/.xsession-errors)
 ok, but im gonna update first... thanks for the idea's
[21:18] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: Where do I find that file then?
[21:18] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: ~ means your home directory
[21:21] <fmancinelli> 5
[21:22]  * PrototypeX29A versucht es mit schlaf
[21:22] <PrototypeX29A> gn8
[21:23] <arooni-mobile> how can i make a given program appear on top of all other windows in other workspaces (running ubuntu 11.10)
[21:25] <tiox> Can someone confirm if devilspie/gdevilspie works on Ubuntu 11.10 for arooni-mobile
[21:25] <tiox> ?
[21:25] <TehAndrewRyan_> jrib: That file is full of text, anything in specific to search for?
[21:26] <zeed_> i
[21:27] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: yes look for something that would cause your session to quit
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> tiox: i've used it in the past
[21:27] <TehAndrewRyan_> I mean, it's thousands of lines long, can I Ctrl + F to find something in particular that might cause the session to quit?
[21:28] <jrib> TehAndrewRyan_: start at the bottom...
[21:29] <tiox> ActionParsnip: Reason I asked is because I seem to be having difficulty using it with GNOME-Shell.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> tiox: hmm, not sure there dude. Could contact the gdevilspie team to enquire
[21:30] <tiox> Otherwise arooni-mobile , see if using the Compiz Window Rules plugin (accessible via CCSM) works in Unity/Ubuntu 2D/Ubuntu 3D)
[21:30] <tiox> I don't even use GNOME-shell anymore because I sorts disliked how it worked. But the shell with Unity is awesome.
[21:31] <tiox> Aside from the non-flexible top panel. But beside that, Unity is awesome.
[21:31] <tiox> Eventhough people were using the top panel in conjunction with stand-alone DockbarX for awhile.
[21:32] <soulslayer> ActionParsnip, the problem was in the policies of the debus
[21:32] <soulslayer> one guy from gimpnet says that
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> soulslayer: ahhh i see
[21:33] <Pilowski> in
[21:33] <soulslayer> i change the policies and it works like a charm i guess thats some kind of new "feature" in ubuntu that sets the policy on deny
[21:34] <ensi> hi
[21:34] <XEDDO> can somebody help me with gdm?
[21:35] <ensi> the system keeps turning down the brigthness on the screen
[21:35] <ensi> appears some video drivers are mssed up in the packge system, cannot install/uninstall anything apt is just bitching
[21:35] <bekks> !details | XEDDO
[21:36] <ensi> http://pastebin.com/MR3E9NrG
[21:37] <conbot> hey
[21:37] <metalforever> hey
[21:37] <conbot> how can i set up wireless on ubuntu server?(command line)
[21:37] <metalforever> ifconfig
[21:37] <conbot> using iwconfig
[21:37] <conbot> ehm
[21:37] <conbot> yeh
[21:37] <metalforever> see which one is the wireless connection
[21:37] <XEDDO> i have ubuntu 11.04, and i want to install a custom login screen (aka change gdm theme) but i dont have the tabs/settings in the login screen settings window. am i even running gdm? and if not how do i start to use it?
[21:37] <conbot> it is not listed.
[21:37] <metalforever> probably wlan0 or similar
[21:37] <metalforever> okay, then you need to install a driver.
[21:37] <Zeelot> does anyone know if you can connect the new cinema displays (thunderbolt) to a macbook pro running ubuntu?
[21:38] <metalforever> what is the name of the card?
[21:38] <metalforever> @ conbot
[21:38] <ensi> i like linux. you never have extra time from fixing this
[21:38] <conbot> I have installed the wl driver on my system and the one before it(gentoo), and i remember that on ubuntu desktop, the interface was eth1
[21:38] <Ademan> anyone know where a good place to get help with advanced cdrdao and/or cdrecord usage is?
[21:39] <metalforever> okay
[21:39] <metalforever> so you are telling me it IS there when you do an ifconfig?
[21:39] <conbot> no
[21:39] <metalforever> if it isnt the wireless driver isnt properly configured
[21:39] <conbot> it is not
[21:39] <metalforever> and you need to do that.
[21:39] <conbot> there is no interface eth1
[21:39] <metalforever> modprobe the driver
[21:39] <conbot> only eth0 and virtb0
[21:39] <metalforever> modprobe the driver
[21:39] <metalforever> so... figure out the module name
[21:40] <conbot> wl
[21:40] <conbot> says it is not there
[21:40] <metalforever> and then do
[21:40] <metalforever> "sudo modprobe modulename here"
[21:41] <conbot> k
[21:41] <metalforever> it should show up then when you ifconfig.. if not, do "ifconfig eth1 up"
[21:41] <conbot> the module name should be wl
[21:41] <conbot> not there
[21:41] <metalforever> wait, paste the error.
[21:41] <conbot> no such interface.
[21:41] <Gergov> hi guys i just installed ubuntu 10.10 and google chrome browser and flash-player from Synaptic PManager. but the thing is flash crashes a lot.. i watch youtube or any other flash videos.. and sometimes it justs goes gray color and i have to refresh the browser. any ideas why or how to fix that?
[21:42] <Otend> Gergov: you'll probably have to update.
[21:42] <Gergov> Otend, update flash player?
[21:42] <metalforever> conbot, copy and paste what you are typing into the terminal and the response.
[21:42] <Otend> Yep; that's what worked for me ,at least.
[21:42] <Otend> x64?
[21:42] <metalforever> is that when you modprobe?
[21:42] <metalforever> then its not installed at all
[21:42] <metalforever> reinstall the driver.
[21:42] <metalforever> but, once installed(get a paper and pen) do the following:
[21:42] <metalforever> modprobe it
[21:42] <metalforever> ifconfig eth1 up
[21:43] <metalforever> iwconfig eth1 essid (essid here)
[21:43] <metalforever> iwlist scanning to scan if you dont know.
[21:43] <metalforever> and then do :
[21:43] <metalforever> dhclient eth1
[21:43] <metalforever> that should do it
[21:43] <KM0201> good lord.. hit enter a few more times
[21:43] <FloodBot1> metalforever: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <Gergov> Otend, well here is the thing.. my laptop is very old and i always installed x32 things.. but now i installed ubuntu from wubu and now i need to install x64 programs like skype and other..
[21:43] <conbot> no X11
[21:44] <metalforever> you dont need x11
[21:44] <Otend> oh; it's probably an x86 system, I am guessing
[21:44] <Gergov> yes
[21:44] <KM0201> Gergov: why did you install 64bit ubuntu with Wubi, if your laptop is 32bit?
[21:44] <Otend> ^pretty much that
[21:44] <conbot> Gergov: if your processor in 32 bit ur screwed. btw, 64bit apps can not run on 32bit computers
[21:44] <conbot> yeah?
[21:44] <Gergov> KM0201, i didnt know that its x64.. i went to ubuntu archive and there it was the only wubu.exe for 10.10
[21:45] <KM0201> honestly, a 64bit OS, should error out during the install process on a 32bit system.. but i don't know anything about Wubi.. i avoid it like Windows given it's inherent problems
[21:45] <KM0201> Gergov: well, boot windows, and uninstall Ubuntu, that would be a start.
[21:45] <Gergov> ok thanks
[21:46] <KM0201> Gergov: then.. once you've removed wubi from orbit
[21:46] <KM0201> download the 32bit ISO, burn it to a CD, boot the CD, and install like a normal person.
[21:46] <KM0201> wubi is to TEST the oS... not run it regularly.. hang out here a while and watch the problems that wubi causes.
[21:46] <Gergov> yeah i was lazy to make a new partition thats why i tried wubu
[21:46] <fernando_> Holas
[21:46] <fernando_> NEcesito ayuda
[21:47] <bekks> !ar | fernando_
[21:47] <fernando_> Necesiot ayuda
[21:47] <fernando_> alquien me puede ayudar?
[21:47] <KM0201> Gergov: well, i can't compensate for your laziness, but windows and ubuntu are to intertwined w/ wubi.. if wubi bricks, you lose the ability to boot windows and ubuntu... partition your drive, and do it right.
[21:47] <Gergov> KM0201, thanks :) ill do that
[21:47] <conbot> hello?
[21:48] <conbot> what can i do to make the interface?
[21:48] <conbot> eth1?
[21:48] <bekks> conbot: nopaste the output of "ifconfig -a" please.
[21:48] <Master33> is backtrack better than backbox..
[21:48] <Master33> anyone
[21:48] <daleharvey> so I am trying to use ubuntu 11.10 with xmonad
[21:49] <daleharvey> and I just cant seem to get the unity panel to go away
[21:49] <bekks> !ot | Master33
[21:49] <melon> Hi, i have saved all the .foo dir in a backup disk, can i retrieve my wifi password from them? (password saved without password (non-safe))
[21:49] <conbot> bekks: how may i upload without x or a browser?
[21:49] <Master33> ok
[21:49] <daleharvey> I installed compiz settings thing and set it to autohide, but it never hides
[21:49] <bekks> conbot: by using pastebinit.
[21:51] <bagels_> Hey, is there an android app that works with ubuntu that lets me use my phone like a remote control for hulu desktop and other media?
[21:51] <melon> Okay, to be clear, where is saved my wifi (and other) password?
[21:52] <bagels_> I'm looking for a simple arrow key thing, not a mouse controller.  I have one of those.
[21:52] <jtr__> !goodnoght
[21:52] <jtr__> !goodnight
[21:52] <jtr__> :(
[21:52] <Jimmy_Kash> goodnight
[21:52] <conbot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/737703
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Master33: both are offtopic and not supported here
[21:52] <conbot> !night
[21:52] <jtr__> Jimmy_Kash: was just trying :d
[21:53] <conbot> it is not the middle of the night here and i am in the us.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> nearly 10pm here
[21:53] <jtr__> conbot: haha :D
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: there is xbmc remote and vlc remote
[21:54] <jtr__> conbot: there is lot in terms of time sync that hasn't happened in networked systems
[21:54] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, does it work with any program in linux, as if it were a keyboard?
[21:54] <jtr__> conbot: and IRC is a particularly difficult case
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: there is also transdroid which I can recommend heavily
[21:54] <conbot> I am in the east which is particularly clode to europe
[21:54] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, tell me more plx
[21:54] <conbot> Georgia to be exact.
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: the xbmc remote acts like a DVD remote and has lots of great buttons, check it out
[21:54] <guntbert> !ot | conbot
[21:55] <conbot> umh
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: vlc remote lets you control volume, fullscreen and what is playing
[21:55] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, but do i need xbmc for it to work?
[21:55] <conbot> i am waiting for a reponse to my question.
[21:55] <jtr__> conbot: ask again
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: for xbmc remote, yes
[21:55] <conbot> bekks: u there?
[21:56] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, nvm the xbmc then, I don't use it.  Unless it's compatible with wii and hulu.  Then I'll change my mind XD
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: there is also this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/remotedroid-lets-you-control-your-desktop-using-your-phone/
[21:56] <jtr__> conbot: in the network manager, u can restrict the connection to use only eth1
[21:56] <jtr__> conbot: is that what u want?
[21:56] <conbot> I AM ON UBUNTU SERVER
[21:56] <conbot> and do not want x at the moment.
[21:56] <BluesKaj> konversation beta 1.4 works well despite the attitude on it's support over at the konversation chat
[21:57] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, I have remotedroid, I was thinking something more like an actual remote, with arrow keys and volume.
[21:57] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, and an ok button.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: http://masl.cis.gvsu.edu/2011/05/20/demo-of-android-based-remote-control-app-for-hulu/
[21:58] <bekks> conbot: yes.
[21:58] <conbot> bekks: see the link?
[21:58] <conbot> know what i should do?
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: does hulu allow remote controlling by web ui etc?
[21:58] <bekks> conbot: First, you need to tell us why you think there is a eth1 which should appear somehow?
[21:58] <posti> can someone send me PL ubuntu help channel ?
[21:59] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, hulu desktop allows remote controlling via an IR computer remote, a wiimote (if you have BT), etc.
[21:59] <metalforever> conbot: run ifconfig and pastebin the output
[21:59] <bekks> metalforever: Already done.
[21:59] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, there's also apps like playon.tv that broadcast hulu to the wii and roku via your PC, but all are windows/mac only.
[21:59] <metalforever> link me.
[22:00] <bekks> 1113 225243 < conbot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/737703
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: there is unified remote in android store for very little cash which can talk to hulu
[22:00] <conbot> metalforever: i DID!!!
[22:00] <bekks> conbot: Calm down.
[22:00] <conbot> ok
[22:01] <rypervenche> conbot: You could use wicd-curses to do wireless from the CLI.
[22:01] <conbot> sorry i have first attempted this in #gentoo earlier today because i had the same problem
[22:01] <metalforever> conbot
[22:01] <metalforever> paste it again
[22:01] <metalforever> cant find it.
[22:01] <conbot> have been on the computer for 13 hours.
[22:01] <bekks> metalforever: 1113 230001 < bekks> 1113 225243 < conbot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/737703
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: seems to be windows only
[22:01] <conbot> bekks: thx bro
[22:01] <_calum> Hi people.Apart from Avast and ClamAV, are there any other antivirus engines which can scan Windows partition from within Linux?
[22:01] <bekks> conbot: Why do you think there is another interface which should appear?
[22:02] <metalforever> yeah
[22:02] <metalforever> @conbot
[22:02] <romdo> hi hi
[22:02] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, there's tons of windows apps.  all I want is a free remote app... that looks like a remote
[22:02] <metalforever> yeah, drivers for wireless arent installed
[22:02] <jarubyh> Does systemrescueCD do the trick?
[22:02] <tomodachi> does ubuntu unity work with nouveau nowdays?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> bagels_: the vlc one and xbmc is all I know dude
[22:02] <bekks> metalforever: We dont even know wether there is a wireless interface.
[22:02] <metalforever> try iwconfig and pastbin it again
[22:02] <metalforever> .
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> tomodachi: sure, my 6150LE can use it well
[22:02] <Hyperbyte> _calum, not entirely sure, but AVG probably can.
[22:02] <bagels_> ActionParsnip, I'm resigned to play my computer to the tv.  I'll look into xbmc.  tyvm :)
[22:02] <conbot> bekks: i checked... let me refresh...
[22:02] <romdo> need advice on decrypting WPA packets using wireshark ..anyon help?
[22:02] <metalforever> right, but we can assume that the computer has an ethernet port yes?
[22:02] <conbot> oh wait
[22:02] <conbot> i checked modprobe
[22:03] <tomodachi> ActionParsnip: you think there are any reasons except for gaming to stick to the evil nvidia binaries?
[22:03] <bekks> metalforever: It has at least one ethernet port. We dont know anything else.
[22:03] <conbot> when i typed iwconfig there were no wireless networks.
[22:03] <metalforever> right, what i said
[22:03] <metalforever> drivers arent installed
[22:03] <metalforever> or not modprobed
[22:03] <romdo> wireshark anyone?
[22:03] <metalforever> .
[22:03] <_calum> thanks Hyperbyte.
[22:03] <conbot> there is a driver installed
[22:03] <bekks> metalforever: We dont even know wether there is a wifi adapter at all.
[22:03] <metalforever> then load the module?
[22:03] <conbot> i followed the instructions
[22:03] <bekks> metalforever: And fix your . key.
[22:03] <conbot> here
[22:03] <metalforever> load the module.
[22:03] <metalforever> okay..conbot
[22:04] <conbot> i will pastebin the output of modprobe
[22:04] <metalforever> what is the name of the wifi card?
[22:04] <markit> hi, I try to make a laptop dual boot: Laptop that was born with vista, a teacher added XP (and now boots only with XP), XP sees 4 partitions, GParted can't read the partition table, nor Ubuntu 11.04 installer, any idea? seems like this http://askubuntu.com/questions/29477/ubuntu-cannot-see-windows-7-partitions-on-install except that Xp boots
[22:04] <conbot> i mean lshw
[22:04] <conbot> need to check..
[22:05] <_calum> Hyperbyte: Is AVG for Linux free or requires registration?
[22:05] <metalforever> why do you need an antivirus?
[22:05] <metalforever> use clamav if needed
[22:05] <Hyperbyte> _calum, check their website.  http://free.avg.com/
[22:05] <metalforever> but..ergh
[22:05] <_calum> not for Ubuntu, to scan windows from Ubuntu
[22:05] <metalforever> why do you need avg?
[22:05] <metalforever> oh.
[22:05] <bekks> calibwam: AVG, Kaspersky, and some more.
[22:05] <FloodBot1> metalforever: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <tiox> tonyyarusso: Now, I am downloading both of them, but it now makes me wonder if there is a 32-bit / 64-bit combo disk?
[22:05] <stef1a> does anyone know how i can change my konsole colors for the directory text at the beginning of each line?
[22:05] <tiox> Because I have more than enough room on my DVD disk to burn 'em both.
[22:06] <conbot> BCM4312
[22:06] <conbot> that is the driver
[22:06] <conbot> or card, i mean
[22:06] <conbot> the driver is linux-sta
[22:06] <_calum> thanks all
[22:07] <conbot> ?
[22:07] <metalforever> conbot: try...
[22:07] <bekks> conbot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:07] <metalforever> modprobe -r b43
[22:07] <tonyyarusso> tiox: I don't think that's possible...
[22:07] <bekks> conbot: There you go.
[22:08] <julianoliver> phaidros: it's a mess. ShuttleWorth is killing Ubuntu and Debian's getting into the touch-screen kiosk market.
[22:08] <jtr__> goodnight everybody :)
[22:08] <tiox> What if I were to use unetbootin?
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> tomodachi: not really looked into it really, it should make youtube a bit smoother
[22:08] <conbot> is that command line based instructs?
[22:08] <prower> hello :> i've noticed this problem in both 11.04 and 11.10, i've been trying to find a bug on launchpad but so far i've been unsuccessful...basically, 1) insert a usb key, 2) try to copy data to and from it, 3) either a kernel panic occurs or the transfer fails and you need to reboot to get usb functionality back :<
[22:08] <tiox> I mean, at least I should be able to use unetbootin to chainlink between bootloaders for 32-bit and 64-bit, and rename the two copies of wubi to wubi32 and wubi64
[22:10] <szal> prower: no such problem here; probably a hardware defect (USB stick and/or port)
[22:10] <conbot> That is Not Command Line Based
[22:10] <metalforever> yes, that is command line based.
[22:10] <metalforever> all instructions i am giving you are command line
[22:11] <metalforever> you need to run it using sudo.
[22:11] <metalforever> sudo "command"
[22:11] <aliasasas> asdf
[22:11] <conbot> look at step 2.
[22:11] <metalforever> or sudo bash
[22:11] <tiox> I'll give it a go with the 32-bit copy and see how well it runs from USB first.
[22:11] <bekks> conbot: apt-get is a cmdline tool.
[22:12] <prower> szal: possibly, yes...i've tried two different sticks on all the different ports with no luck though...in addition to that the "safely remove" option for USB storage causes a kernel panic when you use it :< that bug is on launchpad, a fixed kernel is in -proposed but who knows when that will be out
[22:12] <tiox> Then again, another thing unetbootin might do is not chainlink, but instead compile the boot info into the unetbootin boot loader and make a list of available distrosto boot from.
[22:12] <conbot> CHECK STEP 2
[22:13] <luca_bi> dear friends how can I do for using apache?
[22:13] <conbot> sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl
[22:13] <conbot> oops
[22:13] <conbot> wrong terminal
[22:14] <conbot> FATAL: Module wl not found
[22:14] <jarubyh> HHappens to the best of us.
[22:14] <conbot> :(
[22:14] <jarubyh> Segmentation Fault
[22:14] <szal> prower: so far I had no unsolvable problem w/ my removable USB media..  had an SD card that is probably fried, transfer was slow and error-prone..  other card and all my USB sticks (as far as I have tried them yet) show no problems, neither w/ automounting, nor w/ transfer, nor w/ safely removing
[22:16] <conbot> fail.
[22:16] <conbot> no eth1
[22:16] <conbot> no new interfaces
[22:17] <conbot> fail.
[22:17] <conbot> help!
[22:17] <BluesKaj> sudo dhclient eth0 ?
[22:17] <szal> !enter | conbot
[22:17] <conbot> ok.
[22:18] <conbot> well, can you help me?
[22:18] <conbot> :(
[22:18] <metalforever> yeah, pastebin the following:
[22:18] <metalforever> modprobe output
[22:18] <metalforever> iwconfig output
[22:19] <metalforever> i dont think you installed the driver right
[22:19] <BluesKaj> conbot, sudo dhclient eth1 or 0
[22:19] <metalforever> no.
[22:19] <metalforever> eth0 is not a wireless interface.
[22:19] <BluesKaj> dd he say it was wireless?
[22:20] <conbot> there is no eth1
[22:20] <conbot> only one usedc interface.
[22:20] <conbot> eth0
[22:20] <conbot> and lo
[22:20] <conbot> and virtb0
[22:20] <whyameye> I have an i7 I would like to install Oneiric 64 bit on but the live CD does not boot. Are there any options I can set on bootup with the live CD?
[22:20] <tomodachi> can anyone guide to how to switch from nvidia to nouveau? ive tried inactivating the nvidia driver in "additional drivers" but its not helping
[22:20] <wunnle> i removed default video player and i'm just using smplayer now. but my video thumbnails disappered. what should i do?
[22:21] <BluesKaj> conbot, wifi or ethernet ?
[22:21] <conbot> eth0 is ethernet.
[22:21] <conbot> i need to set up eth1 for wifi
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: what happens when you try to boot?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: what GPU do you use?
[22:22] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: I verified with the burner that the data was correct but did not use md5 so i could do that. Nvidia GPU. when I try to boot the ubuntu splash screen comes up then nothing. <ctl><alt>f1 has nothing there either
[22:22] <psychx-> How do I disable compiz in Ubuntu 11.10? And how would I re-enable it if I wanted to?
[22:22] <BluesKaj> conbot, sudo dhclient eth1
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:23] <whyameye> how do I add a boot option on this liveCD?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> psychx-: Assuming you want to continue using unity, you would log out, select "Unity 2D" at the login screen, and log back in. Select just "Unity" again to go back to compiz.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[22:24] <conbot> BluesKaj: there is no interface eth1. there should be
[22:25] <conbot> damn this is frustrating
[22:25] <BluesKaj> ok conbot run iwconfig , and pastebin the output
[22:26] <conbot> .............. ok
[22:27] <conbot> how may i do that?
[22:27] <conbot> il just tell u
[22:28] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | conbot
[22:28] <conbot> lo, eth0, virbr0= no wireless extensions
[22:28] <conbot> I have no X11.
[22:28] <psychx-> Jordan_U: Is that the only way?
[22:28] <conbot> Ubuntu server.
[22:29] <Jordan_U> psychx-: No. Why?
[22:29] <conbot> what is the point in this
[22:31] <Jordan_U> psychx-: Why do you want to disable compiz in the first place?
[22:31] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: when you said to add the boot option nouveau.blacklist=1 did you mean to add that to the boot command line? If so that doesn't appear to work
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: remove:  quiet splash    too, so you can watch the boot
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: waste of resources ;)
[22:32] <conbot> help?
[22:33] <conbot> been on the computer 9 hours now.
[22:33] <conbot> help?
[22:33] <conbot> pleeease???
[22:34] <BluesKaj> conbot, , which wifi card
[22:34] <conbot> BCM4312
[22:34] <conbot> !!!
[22:34] <tomodachi> ActionParsnip: you dont have any good tips on how to get nouveau running? cant seem to getit working,eventhough disabling nvidia in additional drivers
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tomodachi: do you have a desktop UI now?
[22:35] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: Ok. I'm seeing I/O errors so that probably explains it.
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: on the CD?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: sr0?
[22:35] <conbot> help? :(
[22:36] <conbot> please!?
[22:36] <Fusionite> Hey all
[22:36] <Fusionite> Conbot
[22:36] <Fusionite> What be your problem?
[22:36] <conbot> i have been on the computer trying to get support for the same thing for 9 hours!
[22:36] <conbot> i need to configure linux-sta wireless
[22:36] <conbot> on ubuntu server no x
[22:36] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: must be on the CD. I didn't notice though. I'm checking the disk for defects now...
[22:36] <conbot> i have installed the driver
[22:36] <Fusionite> hmm
[22:37] <Fusionite> What model chip?
[22:37] <conbot> now i need to configure it
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: did you burn as slow as possible?
[22:37] <tomodachi> sefir2
[22:37] <tomodachi> screen -x
[22:37] <conbot> the default interface for the driver is eth1. eth1 does not show on ifconfig
[22:37] <conbot> BCM4312
[22:37] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: is sr0 the cd? I didn't burn as slow as possible but I'll burn another as slow as possible now.
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: md5 test the ISO too
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: yes sr0 will be the CD
[22:38] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: will do. Thanks for the help.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: burning CDs you intend to boot from slowly helps a lot
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: any time
[22:38] <conbot> Fusionite: help
[22:39] <Fusionite> conbot : I don't know, I have never tried
[22:39] <BluesKaj> conbot, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868
[22:39] <conbot> no X!
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | conbot
[22:40] <frewsxcv> ware there any good twitter linux clients? no. gwibber is not good. i have *never ever* had work without bugging out on me
[22:41] <SirDeiu> conbot: try sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[22:41] <prower> hello again :> is anyone here using the "mainline" kernels in 11.10? apparently the most recent one fixes the severe usb troubles i've been having, along with the kernel in -proposed...i'm not sure which i should use
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> frewsxcv: http://www.geekersmagazine.com/twitter-clients-for-ubuntu-linux/    also consider polly
[22:41] <Robdog1556> Pidgin?
[22:41] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, he has no X server
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: which user?
[22:41] <BluesKaj> conbot, taht is
[22:41] <qin> frewsxcv: irssi + bitlbee
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: I see, there ate CLI commands on the guide too
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> irssi rules
[22:42] <frewsxcv> weechat > irssi
[22:42] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, yeah , but he wants to install the sta driver not the b43
[22:42] <qin> !cookie | MonkeyDust
[22:42] <Robdog1556> I haven't used pidgin excessively but pidgin supports everything under the sun so i don't see why it wouldn't do twitter
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: gotcha, not aware of broadcom much tbh, I always buy compatible stuff out of the box :)
[22:43] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, he didn't tell til after I posted
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> pidgin here, it rocks
[22:43] <BluesKaj> conbot, whynot the b43 driver , did you try it ?
[22:44] <conbot> how can i get that?
[22:44] <Robdog1556> Mainly i use xchat 2 for irc so i really dont have a good reason to use pidgin
[22:44] <frewsxcv> i'm not usre how i'd like pidgin as my twitter client
[22:44] <Barnabas> ActionParsnip, have used empathy and pidgin, and empathy still have issues with network disconnects
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> !cookie| qin
[22:44] <Barnabas> pidign is my preference too
[22:44] <BluesKaj> conbot, sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:45] <Robdog1556> But i would still have to recommend pidgin
[22:45] <conbot> i did that.
[22:45] <conbot> nothing happened
[22:46] <BluesKaj> conbot, explain , nothing happened
[22:46] <Fusionite> Sec, Switching to Empathy
[22:46] <frewsxcv> Does gwibber work for anyone here? It *never* works for me. I blame it being written in C#
[22:47] <Cam0> Hi there
[22:47] <Cam0> =)
[22:47] <BluesKaj> another satisfied customer :(
[22:48] <Cam0> i have a small SMAAAL question: i just want to know if /etc/rc.local is enabled by default in ubuntu
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Barnabas: what protocols do you use?
[22:48] <Barnabas> used use irc
[22:48] <Barnabas> today only gtalk / jabber and msn
[22:49] <conbot> HELP!!!!!!?????
[22:49] <conbot> what the
[22:49] <conbot> ejn
[22:49] <conbot> snd\
[22:49] <conbot> i am freaking out!
[22:49] <tomodachi> anyone can give me any pointers on how to get replace nvidia with nouveau?
[22:49] <conbot> please help!
[22:50] <happyface> are there official ubuntu NZBs, for downloading off usenet/newsgroups?
[22:50] <conbot> :'(
[22:50] <Barnabas> conbot, calm down
[22:50] <BluesKaj> conbot, sudo modprobe bcmwl
[22:50] <conbot> module not fount :'(
[22:51] <mikeru> tomodachi: start by removing the nvidia driver
[22:51] <mikeru> in fact, I think that's all you need to do
[22:51] <conbot> help!
[22:51] <mikeru> the nouveau driver is not removed when you install nvidia
[22:51] <tomodachi> mikeru: done, still its us (even efter reboot)
[22:51] <mikeru> (but you do need to remove nvidia to use nouveau)
[22:52] <mikeru> tomodachi: you removed it and it's still using nvidia?
[22:52] <conbot> please!
[22:52] <psychx-> Jordan_U: I want to diable compiz because everything seems to be running slow, and TeamSpeak is crashing - someone said to try disabling compiz.
[22:52] <orp> you need modprobe -r
[22:52] <tomodachi> mikeru: yeah the nvidia drivers are all greyed out now in "additional drivers"
[22:53] <mikeru> tomodachi: ...are you sure you're still using the nvidia drivers?
[22:53] <orp> i have done it
[22:53] <Jordan_U> psychx-: OK. What is wrong with the method I suggested?
[22:53] <psychx-> Jordan_U: nothing
[22:53] <tomodachi> mikeru: nvidia-setting stil works , lsmod |grep nvidia still shows the module being loaded
[22:53] <conbot> orp: no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:54] <conbot> THAT DID NOT WORKK!!!!!!
[22:54] <psychx-> Jordan_U: I was just wondering if there was a better way because I have a lot of things open right now.
[22:55] <orp> nouveau is crap freeze the pc
[22:55] <conbot> orp: anything else?
[22:55] <mikeru> orp: on my computer, nouveau runs perfectly well--
[22:56]  * conbot cries
[22:56] <SPELINAX> Hola
[22:56] <SPELINAX> hay españoles?
[22:56] <psychx-> nouveau is for nvidia graphics cards correct? Is there something like that for ATI cards?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> conbot: Please stop the theatrics.
[22:56] <mikeru> SPELINAX: ve a #ubuntu-es
[22:56] <conbot> well i am pissed off. i cannot help it
[22:57] <mikeru> psychx-: yes. the radeon drivers. and they're installed by default
[22:57] <Cam0> i have a small SMAAAL question: i just want to know if /etc/rc.local is enabled by default in ubuntu
[22:57] <psychx-> mikeru: I am wondering if there are any others.. I don't have some top of the line PC and am trying to make this run better.
[22:57] <Cam0> is it or i have to enable it?
[22:57] <mikeru> tomodachi: sorry, I don't remember what I did with mine to uninstall them
[22:57] <zobugtel> hola
[22:58] <zobugtel> este el chat de ubuntu en español
[22:58] <SPELINAX> Hay informáticos por aquí?
[22:58] <Jordan_U> conbot: If you cannot help it then unfortunately you won't be able to stay in the channel. We are volunteers, and this is a busy channel. Please respect the others in here and find a better way to vent your frustration.
[22:58] <Zeelot> does anyone here know if I can connect a cinema display (thunderbolt) to a macbook pro running ubuntu?
[22:58] <Zeelot> or what adapters I would need
[22:58] <SPELINAX> Hay informáticos por aquí?
[22:58] <conbot> ok
[22:58] <Jordan_U> !es | zobugtel
[22:58] <SPELINAX> perdonen pero quiten estos bots de mIERDA
[22:58] <BluesKaj> conbot,do apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[22:58] <conbot> BluesKaj: I did.
[22:58] <mikeru> psychx-: well, the nouveau drivers don't make them run better. if you're asking if there's a proprietary driver, such as the nvidia one, for AMD cards, there's fglrx
[22:59] <psychx-> mikeru: Ok, I will try that - I'm just trying to make things run more smoothly. Also, diabling compiz should help with that; right?
[22:59] <BluesKaj> conbot, you sure ?
[22:59] <mikeru> SPELINAX: /join #ubuntu-es. aqui nadie te va a hacer caso
[22:59] <conbot> YES
[23:00] <mikeru> psychx-: yes. are you on 11.10? try the Unity 2D session
[23:00] <conbot> BluesKaj: know what i can do?
[23:00] <psychx-> mikeru: ok, ill do that now.
[23:01] <mikeru> it uses metacity
[23:01] <mikeru> psychx-: I'm curious, which graphics card do you have?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> conbot: could use jockey-text   may help
[23:02] <psychx-> mikeru: ATI Radeon HD 3850 (AGP) on a Pentium 4 2.5Ghz w/ 1024MB DDR.
[23:03] <Zeelot> anyone know what I can try? Does ubuntu know anything about thunderbolt?
[23:03] <mikeru> tomodachi: look at this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/NvidiaDriverSwitching
[23:03] <conbot> well there is no interface eth1
[23:03] <mikeru> tomodachi: at the very bottom
[23:03] <BluesKaj> conbot, did you try the b43-fwcutter ? that's about all I can think of right now
[23:03] <conbot> yes.
[23:04] <mikeru> psychx-: I don't think it'd be that slow that you'd have to disable compiz..
[23:04] <BluesKaj> well then I'm stumped
[23:04] <mikeru> have you tried installing the proprietary drivers?
[23:04] <conbot> heh?
[23:04] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[23:04] <conbot> yeah
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> conbot: if you run:  sudo rfkill list     does it show the interface is blocked?
[23:04] <conbot> linux-sta
[23:04] <conbot> when i ifconfig, eth1 is not there
[23:04] <mikeru> psychx-: are you on 11.10?
[23:05] <conbot> that is what it is when i used ubuntu desktop
[23:05] <psychx-> mikeru: Yes, it shows 2 proprietary drivers available - but one (that says post-update) will not work. And yes, I'm on 11.10.
[23:06] <SirTheSurfer> attach irc.hackervoice.co.uk
[23:06] <whyameye> ActionParsnip: I was the one having trouble booting a live CD. The MD5 checked out ok. I burned at the slowest speed and now it boots! Thanks again for the help.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> conbot: could install desktop OS, setup the device then remove xorg and it will remove the desktop guff
[23:06] <psychx-> mikeru: Also, it is usable but everything seems very slow.. I even disabled some visual settings.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: always always burn as slowly as possible
[23:07] <conbot> ActionParship: but i dont want all that other crap
[23:07] <conbot> and its leftovers
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> whyameye: thats also why I always ask as people insist on burning as fast as possible, and then itmore than likely won't work ;)
[23:08] <mikeru> psychx-: well... I'm not using the ubuntu provided ones as they aren't compatible with my iMac 12,2 (it has a AMD 6770 and support was added in 11.9 which isn't in ubuntu's repos, 11.8 was sloooooow and showed an ugly unsupported hardware watermark) so I can't speak about your post-update driver problems.
[23:08] <mikeru> but, as for everything being slow, I think I can
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> conbot: the other stuff will fail deps as xorg is the underlying GUI, so it will all be removed
[23:09] <mikeru> mine was slow too
[23:09] <mikeru> to fix it:
[23:10] <mikeru> psychx-: Open AMD Catalyst Control Center, go to Display Options->Tear Free->Enable Tear Free Desktop to reduce tearing.
[23:10] <mikeru> click OK
[23:10] <Fusionite> Any Conky users here?
[23:10] <Fusionite> <3Conky
[23:10] <Fusionite> lool
[23:11] <winnie666> possibly stupid question: is the UUID of HDs the same across computers?
[23:11] <psychx-> mikeru: ok
[23:11] <mikeru> psychx-: after that, open Software Center and install CompizConifg Settings Manager (not the 'Simple' one!)
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> conbot: could keep it in the holser if you get nowhere
[23:11] <paissad_> winnie666, no
[23:11] <Fusionite> Isn't UUID Uniqe ?
[23:11] <winnie666> really? well i am happy i asked then :)
[23:11] <coolfire> hi
[23:11] <mikeru> psychx-: then go to OpenGL and uncheck Sync To VBlank
[23:14] <conbot> meh
[23:14] <psychx-> mikeru: alright ill give it a try
[23:14] <conbot> im just gonna install x and gnome etc
[23:14] <psychx-> mikeru: should i stay in 3d or go to 2d
[23:14] <mikeru> I have no idea how fglrx works and why its Sync to VBlank settings (Tear Free) conflict with compiz ones (which doesn't happen with nvidia's drivers nor any of the open source AMD and Nvidia drivers), but this fixed any choppiness on my iMac, and it's tear free
[23:14] <conbot> to make a totally loaded ubuntu system
[23:14] <mikeru> psychx-: stay in 3D and do all that
[23:14] <mikeru> psychx-: are you already on a proprietary driver?
[23:14] <psychx-> mikeru: ok awesome ill give it a try thank you for helping me, and yes i am
[23:16] <mikeru> psychx-: ok, do that. and DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE IN COMPIZCONFIG. it's incredibly broken on 11.10, and it's quite easy to lose unity and it's a nightmare to get it back
[23:16] <winnie666> paissad, UUID is stored in the filesystem, so how can it change if i move an HD from one computer to the other?
[23:18] <mikeru> anyway I came here with a question of my own. how can I use two internet connections for different applications? I have two ISPs at home, and I want to download torrents through one, and do everything else through the other connection
[23:19] <coolfire> hi i need help
[23:20] <mikeru> one is connected through wireless and the other through ethernet, but I can connect one through ethernet and the other through USB if wireless would be much more cumbersome to configure than this weird request of mine already is :)
[23:20] <mikeru> obviously, right now I'm only connected through one
[23:23] <SIQKO> gr8
[23:24] <SIQKO> alive??
[23:25] <jarubyh> Are you asking whether we're paying attention to this channel?
[23:25] <Fusionite> I just need a funky nickname
[23:25] <jarubyh> jarubyh_the_second
[23:26] <jarubyh> I've always wanted a lineage.
[23:26] <Jarubyh_The_2nd> :)
[23:26] <Jarubyh_The_2nd> lol
[23:26] <SIQKO> alrigh
[23:26] <jarubyh> "And jarubyh begot jarubyh_the_2nd, and jarubyh_the_2nd begot jarubyh_the_3rd..."
[23:27] <Jarubyh_The_2nd> Lol
[23:27] <Virus> This network is too fucking big
[23:27] <Virus> lol
[23:27] <szal> !language | Virus
[23:28] <Virus> Oh right
[23:28] <SIQKO> wow
[23:28] <Virus> My Appologies
[23:28] <mikeru> psychx-: any luck?
[23:28] <Virus> :(
[23:28] <jarubyh> Yeah. Fun for the whole family. "Daddy, what are we doing for family game night?"
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Virus: its the largest IRC network around afaik :)
[23:28] <Virus> Yeah, Must be :)
[23:28] <SIQKO> sure
[23:29] <mikeru> and everybody else, no ideas as to what to do with my own question :( ?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> yep, wikipedia says so too :)
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: you can combine them to one super connection
[23:30] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: how???
[23:30] <TheCowboy> Is there any manual for Quickly?
[23:30] <SIQKO> no
[23:30] <SIQKO> probabl
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[23:31] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: but I'm worried about the torrents taking all the bandwidth of both connections. even when I set transmission to slow mode I can't browse the web on my current connection
[23:32] <Virus> No one could have this nickname
[23:32] <BiosDestroyer> :)
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: then set the bandwidth use down, transmission has that feature.
[23:32] <SIQKO> sharing ideas
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: I have my torrent server running all the time but gated to a maximum of 2Mb/s
[23:32] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: that's the slow (turtle icon) mode
[23:32] <mikeru> right?
[23:32] <mikeru> it's on
[23:33] <mikeru> i set it to only 10 kbps
[23:33] <mikeru> and pages load slowly
[23:33] <mikeru> as soon as I quit transmission, pages load inmediatly
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: there is the normal speed, then set the speed between the 2 times to be different (if you wish)
[23:33] <mikeru> and it's not a terribly slow connection, it's a modest 10Mnps
[23:34] <bsmith093> when i run top, what the the + next to the time column mean?
[23:35] <bsmith093> time+?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: if you combine both is it as impacting?
[23:35] <psychx-> mikeru: Ok, seems like it's running better.
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: which version of transmission and release of ubuntu?
[23:36] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: 2.40, 11.10
[23:36] <mikeru> psychx-: that doesn't sound satisfactory.
[23:37] <psychx-> mikeru: what do you mean?
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: try:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:transmissionbt/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: 2.42 version, may help
[23:37] <mikeru> psychx-: sounds like your improvement was 'just a small one'. mine was HUGE
[23:38] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: I'm on the transmissionbt/beta ppa. I did that yesterday
[23:38] <psychx-> mikeru: maybe there is something wrong with some of my hardware or something. it does seem like it is running more smoothly, but it still feels a little muddy.
[23:39] <gdoteof> i have a second wireless card (one in addition to the built in one on my laptop) and plugging it in has it automatically connect to the same network the built in card is on
[23:39] <mikeru> I was on the stable (ppa:transmissionbt/ppa) one yesterday (before I replaced it with the beta ppa)
[23:39] <theborger> anyone point me to a good readme on seting up a mail server on 10.04?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: you said 2.40  the ppa has 2.42....
[23:39] <gdoteof> is there a way i can seperate the two out?  i just want to disconnect it from the network and play around with aircrack
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> theborger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[23:40] <gdoteof> 11.04
[23:40] <mikeru> psychx-: hmm... try going to Composite->uncheck Detect Refresh Rate and set the slider below to 60
[23:40] <qin> gdoteof: first two steps are: ifconfig, iwconfig...
[23:41] <qin> gdoteof: Then probably you want to: sudo airmon start wlan1
[23:41] <qin> *airmon-ng
[23:41] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: funny, I thought I did see 2.42 in the ppa webpage, but after adding it (and of course updating the repo list) I'm only being offered 2.33-0ubuntu2 (the one included in ubuntu) and 2.40~ b3-0ubuntu0.11.10.1
[23:42] <psychx-> mikeru: For some reason it's currently set on 50
[23:42] <gdoteof> qin i did ifconfig, the second card is listed, and connected to the same network
[23:42] <gdoteof> qin so i did ifconfig wlan1 down
[23:42] <gdoteof> and it brought it down
[23:42] <BiosDestroyer> I'm out for now guys
[23:42] <gdoteof> but as soon as i brought it back up, it was reconnected to the same network
[23:42] <mikeru> ActionParsnip: huh. the beta ppa is at 2.40 and the stable at 2.42. and I thought I would be getting newer versions -.-
[23:42] <BiosDestroyer> Take care all
[23:43] <gdoteof> qin, so my question is, how can i simply disconnect wlan1 from the network it is connected to, but still have it 'up'
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> mikeru: ahh, I'm looking at Oneiric
[23:43] <qin> gdoteof: put it up and run airmon, since airodump needs card in monitor mode
[23:44] <gdoteof> qin: yeah i did that too, sorry. it says it works, the last line is wlan1 / monitor mode enabled
[23:45] <gdoteof> qin: but, if i do iwconfig, it shows mode: managed and conected to the wifi network
[23:45] <mikeru> psychx-: set it to 60 and disable Detect Refresh Rate. some people say it works with the ATI ones and I'm positive it works with the Nvidia ones, but I'm not really sure if it does improve performance with the ATI drivers as I didn't notice a difference when disabling it and looking at the difference
[23:45] <avo> hi!
[23:45] <conbot> hi.
[23:46] <avo> How are you?
[23:46] <conbot> how may i access X as a user?
[23:46] <conbot> not root?
[23:46] <conbot> 1 sec
[23:46] <conbot> msg me
[23:46] <FloodBot1> conbot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <conbot> gtg eat dinner
[23:46] <conbot> ok.
[23:46] <avo> ok
[23:46] <avo> godd
[23:46] <mikeru> do note however that window dragging is still a little bit choppy, on both the open source drivers and the amd ones. I'm not sure why. But something that is much, much faster on the proprietary ones is the Workspace Switcher. try opening it and see how fast it is :P
[23:47] <n-iCe> hi, I created an adhoc connection in the networkmanager I see the wireless access point in my devices(iphone) even I can connect to the AP but I Have no internet connection, any idea what can I be missing? thanks! I have two wireless cards.
[23:51] <Scunizi> Can anyone tell me what the hot key is to activate guake?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: F12 is defauly
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> *default
[23:52]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[23:52] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: thanks.. you'd figure you could find that on their site... or in the man page.. nothing. :(
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: It usually shows a bubble when it starts
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: there is also Guake Config in dash :)
[23:53] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: just noticed that.. do you start it with guake & from terminal?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: I have a symlink from /usr/share/applications/guake.desktop in ~/.config/autostart
[23:54] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: or actually it has a launcher.. and here I was expecting to have to start it with terminal..  :)
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: it can be either ;)
[23:57] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: so I' ve got irssi running in screen now in the guake window.. cool but I'll have to play with the transparancy settings..
[23:57] <conbot> hey, how can i start x on my user account without sudo?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: you is wicked frsh now bwoi
[23:58] <conbot> sudo starts x and everything that runs within as root. i need to get x to run on my user
[23:58] <conbot> please help
[23:59] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: nice.. can't believe I've been using Ubt 6 yrs and haven't tried this..