[00:12] lol Quintasan I can email that to you:) [00:19] Quintasan: sent [00:20] BarkingFish: how did you get korean to work? [00:20] i managed it once, and now it won't do it. [00:20] I've got jasonjang from #ubuntu-ko helping me to sort it [00:21] what program was it using? [00:21] I don't know, I had a couple installed, I think it was UIM possibly, looked like it might not have worked at first, but people here saw what I typed [01:10] just saw the white update icon in my parent computers [01:10] and the updater worked well, great job ! [01:10] :D [01:11] we have a white update icon? [01:11] I have a gear with a green circle arror [01:24] Riddell: it was a gear with an arrow I think [01:24] but yes, it was white [02:32] I have the gray and white updater icon as well, since 11.10 upgrade [02:38] hmm, I feel like I'm missing out [03:12] Riddell: xD [03:12] Riddell: in which timezone are you now ? === JackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine2 === JackyAlcine2 is now known as JackyAlcine_ === JackyAlcine_ is now known as EvilJackyAlcine === EvilJackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech === nihui_ is now known as nihui [12:39] afiestas_: I'm in -4 [14:17] * Riddell nudges agateau about qt accessiblity [14:17] Riddell: I am actually on it right now! [14:17] Riddell: assuming you refer to bug 877358 [14:17] Launchpad bug 877358 in qt-at-spi (Ubuntu Precise) "QtAccessibility causes crashes in several applications" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877358 [14:23] agateau: you saw my e-mail? [14:23] Riddell: not yet, what does it say? [14:24] agateau: oh it says here is my suggestion http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kde4libs_4.7.2-0ubuntu3.debdiff and do you have a better suggestion? [14:24] * agateau has no mail from Riddell yet [14:25] I sent it at the weekend to agateau @kde.org [14:25] Riddell: ah ok, was looking at my @canonical box [14:26] Riddell: that's a crude fix, but it should work. Are we sure no Qt-only apps are affected? [14:27] I suspect we don't know [14:28] at least it would be better than our current state I guess [14:29] agateau: were you working on a better fix? [14:30] Riddell: I just started diving into qt-at-spi code, I am at the stage where I landed in the cave and turned on my flashlight to see what is around me [14:30] Riddell: meaning: far from a fix [14:31] I have a reliable way to reproduce the crash with Kopete, I am going to try to reduce it to a test program [14:31] this should help determining if the bug is kde-specific or not [14:35] agateau: ok so maybe wait a bit to see if you come up with anything and if not use my workaround? [14:35] Riddell: sounds like a reasonable plan [14:36] hmm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu needs an update for muon === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:31] shadeslayer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345049 [15:32] *click* [15:32] wendar: ^ === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:32] zomg [15:32] <3 [15:33] Here I come chroots [15:34] shadeslayer: more importantly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19319421&postcount=23 [15:34] something is missing [15:34] "This device lacks the needed file (bad luck)" [15:36] durr [15:36] shadeslayer's infamous bad luck [15:36] B80? [15:37] So any of 8.6.6.x roms cannot be rooted [15:37] bah [15:37] B70 [15:37] Apparently it will not work with any tf101g as they do not have 'App Backup' functionality [15:38] check for ota or something [15:39] "Ok, just to clear it up you need to have 8.6.5.19 because even though 8.6.5.18 has asus-backup it does not have suid and thus does not work" [15:39] ooooh [15:39] ok [15:39] yeah [15:39] updating [15:39] k [15:39] * Quintasan is back to studying geography [15:39] freaking test from map [15:39] oh boy [15:39] I remember those [15:39] *shudder* [15:40] Wish me luck then [15:40] I want a C [15:41] off we go then [15:41] cya [15:41] Quintasan: best of luck === jefferai-away is now known as jefferai [15:49] Quintasan: still around? [16:00] Quintasan, shadeslayer: whoot! [16:01] yeah! :D [16:01] wendar: http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/ << ubuntu chroots [16:02] sadly, I'm downloading at 7 KBps [16:02] :( === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [16:19] 15:36 < kwmiebach> byobu improved my work so much. cant live without it anymore [16:19] 15:39 < kirkland> kwmiebach: that's great to hear :-) [16:19] oops [16:43] * jefferai just got some message asking him not to set noisy nicks on away...wtf [16:43] 0.o [16:51] Mmm [16:52] seems that my Mom's laptop after upgrading to 11.10 has apper and muon [16:52] apper is the one with the grey-white good looking icon [16:52] and muon is using the old one [16:52] JontheEchidna any idea why is that? === JackyAlcine is now known as graviti2011 === graviti2011 is now known as JackyAlcine [18:11] evening === Stecchino_ is now known as Stecchino [19:00] bonsoir bambee [20:20] amarok 2.4.90 is up for packaging [20:20] I won't be able to take a look till tomorrow afternoon [20:27] yofel: is that the beta? [20:27] it is [20:33] who can remember where Groo's PPA is? [20:35] ah got it [21:17] what is a KDE goodies PPA? I get bug reports from people using that [21:17] Riddell: there have been changes since _Groo_ packaged it [21:18] Mamarok: launchpad search says https://launchpad.net/~hrvojes/+archive/kde-goodies [21:18] id really like a convention of putting the packager's lp name into their ppa version strings [21:18] so ya know who to blame :) [21:19] maco: thanks, why can't people stop using these PPAs? Seriously, we do already package betas, they really shouldn't use that [21:19] Mamarok: I know, I'm just getting the libmygpo-qt from him [21:19] Riddell: ah, OK [21:20] maco: nobody is to blame. If something goes wrong, everyone pitches in to fix it if they're able :) [21:20] If you wanna know who packaged it, read the changelog :) [21:20] BarkingFish: referring to PPAs [21:20] unofficial ones [21:20] where someone just grabs a thing and packages it and doesnt provide updates to it [21:21] you wanna use a ppa, that's on your own head :) [21:21] BarkingFish: nonetheless we get the reports upstream, and that sucks [21:21] BarkingFish: Mamarok was saying she gets bug reports from people using random PPAs [21:22] then you should be telling people that they should only be using official repos for things if they want help. [21:22] You don't write the stuff in the PPA, why the heck should you support it? [21:22] I agree that it sucks [21:22] BarkingFish: that's what I do, but it is still additional work I would not have if people wouldn't use these [21:23] I have just spend several minutes ona bug report because of that [21:23] is it worth adding it into your channel topic? [21:23] "If you're using an unofficial PPA, we don't provide help, so don't ask." ? [21:24] then again, how many people actually *read* the channel topic? :P [21:24] BarkingFish: nol, b4ecuase there are more distributions around and we can't put everything in the #amarok header [21:24] and it was not a bug report on IRC, read again [21:25] I could seriously live without triaging stuff from unsupported PPAAs in kKDE's bugzilla [21:25] -k [21:26] ah, ok. [21:26] Do you want someone who could help you triage or deal with those things? I'm not doing a whole lot at the moment :) [21:34] BarkingFish: not for Amarok, it is pretty well triaged, thank you.But a lot of other KDE parts could need some help in triaging indeed. [21:36] sure :) I don't mind in the slightest. I already have an account on KDE's bugzilla, do I need anything doing to it to triage, extra permissions or anything? Or can I just go straight ahead. [21:36] ? [21:40] BarkingFish: that depends on your Karma, but start triaging, if you can't change bugs, write a comment, the other KDE triagers will see it [21:40] Katrma has to be earned :) [21:41] Mamarok: I know, I have some on launchpad [21:43] Mamarok: you might wanna check - https://launchpad.net/~lightningstrike35/ [21:44] if it looks ok, i'll just get working [21:48] UDS blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4505 [21:49] BarkingFish: the bugzilla permissions in KDE have nothing to do with Launchpad Karma, please just start triaging, the others will notice and reward good work :) [21:50] ok, wasn't sure where you were doing the triage, you mentioned launchpad at the top :) [21:50] Never mind, I'll just dig in :D [22:05] afiestas_: I wasn't aware of the new icon until recently. 1.3 will have the new icon [22:06] coincidentally, I'm working on pushing out 1.3 alpha atm [23:22] JontheEchidna: what I'm afraid of is having appe and muon together [23:22] only one of them should be installed afaik [23:22] or at least, only one should check for updates [23:25] you can disable either from their respective applications [23:26] for apper you click the gear in the top-right and go to the settings page [23:26] for muon, open any muon app and go to the app's settings dialog and go to the notifications page