[00:12] <claydoh> lol Quintasan I can email that to you:)
[00:19] <claydoh> Quintasan: sent
[00:20] <Riddell> BarkingFish: how did you get korean to work?
[00:20] <BarkingFish> i managed it once, and now it won't do it.
[00:20] <BarkingFish> I've got jasonjang from #ubuntu-ko helping me to sort it
[00:21] <Riddell> what program was it using?
[00:21] <BarkingFish> I don't know, I had a couple installed, I think it was UIM possibly, looked like it might not have worked at first, but people here saw what I typed
[01:10] <afiestas_> just saw the white update icon in my parent computers
[01:10] <afiestas_> and the updater worked well, great job !
[01:10] <afiestas_> :D
[01:11] <Riddell> we have a white update icon?
[01:11] <Riddell> I have a gear with a green circle arror
[01:24] <afiestas_> Riddell: it was a gear with an arrow I think
[01:24] <afiestas_> but yes, it was white 
[02:32] <valorie> I have the gray and white updater icon as well, since 11.10 upgrade
[02:38] <Riddell> hmm, I feel like I'm missing out
[03:12] <afiestas_> Riddell: xD
[03:12] <afiestas_> Riddell: in which timezone are you now ?
[12:39] <Riddell> afiestas_: I'm in -4
[14:17]  * Riddell nudges agateau about qt accessiblity
[14:17] <agateau> Riddell: I am actually on it right now!
[14:17] <agateau> Riddell: assuming you refer to bug 877358
[14:23] <Riddell> agateau: you saw my e-mail?
[14:23] <agateau> Riddell: not yet, what does it say?
[14:24] <Riddell> agateau: oh it says here is my suggestion http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/kde4libs_4.7.2-0ubuntu3.debdiff and do you have a better suggestion?
[14:24]  * agateau has no mail from Riddell yet
[14:25] <Riddell> I sent it at the weekend to agateau @kde.org
[14:25] <agateau> Riddell: ah ok, was looking at my @canonical box
[14:26] <agateau> Riddell: that's a crude fix, but it should work. Are we sure no Qt-only apps are affected?
[14:27] <Riddell> I suspect we don't know
[14:28] <agateau> at least it would be better than our current state I guess
[14:29] <Riddell> agateau: were you working on a better fix?
[14:30] <agateau> Riddell: I just started diving into qt-at-spi code, I am at the stage where I landed in the cave and turned on my flashlight to see what is around me
[14:30] <agateau> Riddell: meaning: far from a fix
[14:31] <agateau> I have a reliable way to reproduce the crash with Kopete, I am going to try to reduce it to a test program
[14:31] <agateau> this should help determining if the bug is kde-specific or not
[14:35] <Riddell> agateau: ok so maybe wait a bit to see if you come up with anything and if not use my workaround?
[14:35] <agateau> Riddell: sounds like a reasonable plan
[14:36] <Riddell> hmm, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu needs an update for muon
[15:31] <Quintasan_> shadeslayer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345049
[15:32] <shadeslayer> *click*
[15:32] <Quintasan_> wendar: ^
[15:32] <shadeslayer> zomg
[15:32] <shadeslayer> <3 
[15:33] <shadeslayer> Here I come chroots
[15:34] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: more importantly http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19319421&postcount=23
[15:34] <shadeslayer> something is missing
[15:34] <shadeslayer> "This device lacks the needed file (bad luck)"
[15:36] <Quintasan> durr
[15:36] <Quintasan> shadeslayer's infamous bad luck
[15:36] <Quintasan> B80?
[15:37] <Quintasan> So any of 8.6.6.x roms cannot be rooted
[15:37] <Quintasan> bah
[15:37] <shadeslayer> B70
[15:37] <Quintasan> Apparently it will not work with any tf101g as they do not have 'App Backup' functionality
[15:38] <Quintasan> check for ota or something
[15:39] <Quintasan> "Ok, just to clear it up you need to have 8.6.5.19 because even though 8.6.5.18 has asus-backup it does not have suid and thus does not work"
[15:39] <shadeslayer> ooooh
[15:39] <shadeslayer> ok
[15:39] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:39] <shadeslayer> updating
[15:39] <Quintasan> k
[15:39]  * Quintasan is back to studying geography
[15:39] <Quintasan> freaking test from map
[15:39] <shadeslayer> oh boy
[15:39] <shadeslayer> I remember those
[15:39] <shadeslayer> *shudder*
[15:40] <Quintasan> Wish me luck then
[15:40] <Quintasan> I want a C
[15:41] <Quintasan> off we go then
[15:41] <shadeslayer> cya
[15:41] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: best of luck
[15:49] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: still around?
[16:00] <wendar> Quintasan, shadeslayer: whoot!
[16:01] <shadeslayer> yeah! :D
[16:01] <shadeslayer> wendar: http://androlinux.com/android-ubuntu-development/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/ << ubuntu chroots
[16:02] <shadeslayer> sadly, I'm downloading at 7 KBps
[16:02] <shadeslayer> :(
[16:19] <Daviey> 15:36 < kwmiebach> byobu improved my work so much. cant live without it anymore
[16:19] <Daviey> 15:39 < kirkland> kwmiebach: that's great to hear :-)
[16:19] <Daviey> oops
[16:43]  * jefferai just got some message asking him not to set noisy nicks on away...wtf
[16:43] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[16:51] <afiestas> Mmm 
[16:52] <afiestas> seems that my Mom's laptop after upgrading to 11.10 has apper and muon
[16:52] <afiestas> apper is the one with the grey-white good looking icon
[16:52] <afiestas> and muon is using the old one
[16:52] <afiestas> JontheEchidna any idea why is that?
[18:11] <bambee> evening
[19:00] <Riddell> bonsoir bambee 
[20:20] <yofel> amarok 2.4.90 is up for packaging
[20:20] <yofel> I won't be able to take a look till tomorrow afternoon
[20:27] <Riddell> yofel: is that the beta?
[20:27] <yofel> it is
[20:33] <Riddell> who can remember where Groo's PPA is?
[20:35] <Riddell> ah got it
[21:17] <Mamarok> what is a KDE goodies PPA? I get bug reports from people using that
[21:17] <Mamarok> Riddell: there have been changes since _Groo_ packaged it
[21:18] <maco> Mamarok: launchpad search says https://launchpad.net/~hrvojes/+archive/kde-goodies
[21:18] <maco> id really like a convention of putting the packager's lp name into their ppa version strings
[21:18] <maco> so ya know who to blame :)
[21:19] <Mamarok> maco: thanks, why can't people stop using these PPAs? Seriously, we do already package betas, they really shouldn't use that
[21:19] <Riddell> Mamarok: I know, I'm just getting the libmygpo-qt from him
[21:19] <Mamarok> Riddell: ah, OK
[21:20] <BarkingFish> maco: nobody is to blame. If something goes wrong, everyone pitches in to fix it if they're able :)
[21:20] <BarkingFish> If you wanna know who packaged it, read the changelog :)
[21:20] <maco> BarkingFish: referring to PPAs
[21:20] <maco> unofficial ones
[21:20] <maco> where someone just grabs a thing and packages it and doesnt provide updates to it
[21:21] <BarkingFish> you wanna use a ppa, that's on your own head :)
[21:21] <Mamarok> BarkingFish: nonetheless we get the reports upstream, and that sucks
[21:21] <maco> BarkingFish: Mamarok was saying she gets bug reports from people using random PPAs
[21:22] <BarkingFish> then you should be telling people that they should only be using official repos for things if they want help.
[21:22] <BarkingFish> You don't write the stuff in the PPA, why the heck should you support it? 
[21:22] <BarkingFish> I agree that it sucks
[21:22] <Mamarok> BarkingFish: that's what I do, but it is still additional work I would not have if people wouldn't use these
[21:23] <Mamarok> I have just spend several minutes ona bug report because of that
[21:23] <BarkingFish> is it worth adding it into your channel topic?
[21:23] <BarkingFish> "If you're using an unofficial PPA, we don't provide help, so don't ask." ?
[21:24] <BarkingFish> then again, how many people actually *read* the channel topic? :P
[21:24] <Mamarok> BarkingFish: nol, b4ecuase there are more distributions around and we can't put everything in the #amarok header
[21:24] <Mamarok> and it was not a bug report on IRC, read again
[21:25] <Mamarok> I could seriously live without triaging stuff from unsupported PPAAs in kKDE's bugzilla
[21:25] <Mamarok> -k
[21:26] <BarkingFish> ah, ok.
[21:26] <BarkingFish> Do you want someone who could help you triage or deal with those things? I'm not doing a whole lot at the moment :)
[21:34] <Mamarok> BarkingFish: not for Amarok, it is pretty well triaged, thank you.But a lot of other KDE parts could need some help in triaging indeed.
[21:36] <BarkingFish> sure :) I don't mind in the slightest.  I already have an account on KDE's bugzilla, do I need anything doing to it to triage, extra permissions or anything? Or can I just go straight ahead.
[21:36] <BarkingFish> ?
[21:40] <Mamarok> BarkingFish: that depends on your Karma, but start triaging, if you can't change bugs, write a comment, the other KDE triagers will see it
[21:40] <Mamarok> Katrma has to be earned :)
[21:41] <BarkingFish> Mamarok: I know, I have some on launchpad
[21:43] <BarkingFish> Mamarok: you might wanna check - https://launchpad.net/~lightningstrike35/
[21:44] <BarkingFish> if it looks ok, i'll just get working
[21:48] <Riddell> UDS blog http://blogs.kde.org/node/4505
[21:49] <Mamarok> BarkingFish: the bugzilla permissions in KDE have nothing to do with Launchpad Karma, please just start triaging, the others will notice and reward good work :)
[21:50] <BarkingFish> ok, wasn't sure where you were doing the triage, you mentioned launchpad at the top :)
[21:50] <BarkingFish> Never mind, I'll just dig in :D
[22:05] <JontheEchidna> afiestas_: I wasn't aware of the new icon until recently. 1.3 will have the new icon
[22:06] <JontheEchidna> coincidentally, I'm working on pushing out 1.3 alpha atm
[23:22] <afiestas_> JontheEchidna: what I'm afraid of is having appe and muon together
[23:22] <afiestas_> only one of them should be installed afaik
[23:22] <afiestas_> or at least, only one should check for updates
[23:25] <JontheEchidna> you can disable either from their respective applications
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> for apper you click the gear in the top-right and go to the settings page
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> for muon, open any muon app and go to the app's settings dialog and go to the notifications page