[00:21] good evening ... today when I upload a new source package to ppa.lauchpad.net, it's giving me back a "permission denied", claiming that my GPG signature is invalid [00:22] dput is validating my signature right before I upload [00:22] is launchpad OK? [00:24] http://paste.ubuntu.com/737820/ [00:24] it should be fine, that warning is cosmetic but scary [00:26] thanks, lifeless [00:38] Ullo, I have a question about PPAs. I have one that contains 2 packages, one depends on the other. They're building in the wrong order, but does a PPA even include built versions of itself in its build process? [00:40] If it doesn't, can I just add it to itself as a depend? ANd how do i change the build order of the packages in that case? [00:41] cafuego: it does include them (the other packages in the same PPA) [00:42] But only if it's build and published [00:42] *built [00:42] Kiall: Cool. So all i need is to change the build order [00:42] If it requires it, then Depend on it [00:42] cafuego: just make sure package A Build-Depends on package B and launchpad will figure out the rest [00:42] if it builds the wrong one first, it will put it into "dependancy wait".. [00:42] Kiall: it already does, afaik. [00:44] it may have used the wrong version though [00:45] Then you need to specify the version along with the dependency [00:45] yeah I just relaised I hadn't changed that back [00:45] Hmmno, that's definitely set [00:46] I shall wait and see what it does in the current build run [00:46] lifeless: BTW, any idea why the PPA build queues have been so long recently? (Curiosity, not complaining) [00:47] Kiall: dput errors. [00:47] Kiall: I have a bunch of builds pending coz dput kept whining at me even though the upload actually worked fine. [00:47] Kiall: we've been short builders, I'm not sure of the details why. [00:47] Kiall: I bet I'm not the only one re-uploading and triggerring another build that way. [00:48] cafuego: true, I'm sure thats adding to it alright. [00:48] Kiall: Only 400% in my case ;-) [00:48] lifeless: fair enough, as good a reason as any :) [00:49] There's only 700 builds in the queue. [00:51] Its times like this I wish you could upload pre-build deb's ;) [00:52] (actually - a week or so ago, the queue was 30 something hours.. its times like that.. ;)) [00:52] thanks, but I like knowing who has root on my machine :) [00:52] lifeless: pre-build deb's would allow people to gain root? As in, in more ways than when LP builds them? [00:53] pre-built* [00:53] So the pre-built deb does not have to match what the source builds ... [00:54] And so can contain malicious code ... [00:55] If we allowed mixed uploads, the checksums and the filename need to match and then it get accepted. [00:56] StevenK: ah, i get ya [00:57] if an LP built deb gets root, you have an audit trail. :) [00:57] thus 'knowing who' rather than 'controlling who'! [00:58] ;) [00:59] The buildds (effectively) have root on end-users machines, so I'd prefer they were trusted and heavily locked-down machines [00:59] Maybe you should all .deb's do a quick echo "LP ssh key" > /root/.ssh/authorized_keys during postinst, There would be no shortage of builders then ;) [00:59] should have * [01:01] Kiall: couldn't trust them [01:02] lol, true ;) [01:02] Kiall: the owner could have a hacked gcc that installs a virus in the libc startup code for every binary [01:07] One more question if I may? :-) [01:08] I have a PPA that does daily builds via a recipe. [01:08] It builds fine for Natty and Oneiric, but the Lucid version needs some backported libs. [01:08] So have those libs published in your PPA [01:09] If I pop my backported libs in the PPA, will it build them, as the recipe doesn't reference them. [01:09] Hmm, I suppose they're in there now as chained build deps. === epsy is now known as \u03b5 [09:02] hello, I keep getting timeout errors for https://translations.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/precise/+link-translations-branch (e.g. ID: OOPS-c69666ebd5b885a91ff27ff24e46aaad) - is there any workaround for this so that I can get my translations exported? my target is lp:~mvo/ddtp-ubuntu/ddtp-precise [09:02] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=c69666ebd5b885a91ff27ff24e46aaad [09:05] Hi, I requested a build recipe from lp:~epoptes, (1) for ppa:ts.sch.gr/proposed, and then some seconds after that, (2) for ppa:epoptes/proposed. The problem is that from what I see, the first build request has completely disappeared! [09:05] Should I file a bug? Or should I just request another build? [09:06] meh, xchat crashed [09:16] Hi [09:21] hi mrevell === danilo_ is now known as danilos === allenap` is now known as allenap [09:46] mvo: That branch doesn't exist. [09:47] aha, thanks wgrant! I can fix that :) I wonder if it could give a more helpful error mesage maybe? [09:48] mvo: It does give a more helpful error message. Except that it tries to fall back to doing a search, which times out here... not sure why. [09:49] wgrant: aha, that explains it, thanks! and it works now, thanks a lot ,that unblocked me :) [09:52] mvo: Great. [10:02] is there a way for me to ask lp to build a package whose build I cancelled? [10:06] cafuego: A recipe build? [10:07] wgrant: No, a dput one. [10:07] wgrant: I added 2 library depends to my ppa; the second started building but depends on the first, so i cancelled it as it would fail anyway. [10:07] wgrant: .. hoping to kick it off once the first lib was done. [10:07] Oh, didn't realise the cancellation feature was turned on for the whole world yet. No, you can't uncancel a build. [10:08] wgrant: do i need to push a newer version of the pkg to trigger a build again? [10:08] Yes. [10:08] bugger [10:09] Indeed. [10:09] :-) [10:15] wgrant: Okay, now we wait. Thanks :-) === stub1 is now known as stub [11:44] hi all [11:44] is there a way to create a PPA such that it looks for build dependencies in another PPA? [11:47] yes, you can specify dependencies between PPAs [11:48] geser: is this an obvious config setting that I'm missing? [11:49] geser: nevermind. it is obvious ;) === benji changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: benji | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [14:41] hello - please could someone take a look as to why https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=java7-ftbfs pretty much always times out on me [14:41] thanks === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:11] Bug #197492 [15:11] Launchpad bug 197492 in update-manager-core (Ubuntu) "daemon at port '9004'" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197492 [15:12] "Reported by Carl Karsten on 2008-03-01 This bug affects 1 person. Does this bug affect you? " [15:12] CarlFK: hi, this is probably something more for #ubuntu-devel, would you be interessted in helping with a fix? [15:12] mvo: im pointing out that I reported it, and lp is asking if it affects me [15:15] aha, ok, I misunderstood then [15:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/~carlfk what's the quickest way for me to see the most recent bugs? [15:19] most of the time I go to that page it is to go back to the last bug or 2 that I reported, like to add some info to it [15:19] where can add a lp feature request? [15:24] CarlFK: Maybe you are thinking about the "Reported bugs" link in the menu on the right…? [15:26] rvba: nope - looks like they are sorted by Importance, bug# accending (so oldest first) [15:27] I am surprised that I can't click on the column headers to sort on them [15:28] CarlFK: This very feature is in progress as we speak ;) … for now you'll have to use the advanced search form I'm afraid. [15:29] sweet. I'll stop fussing and get back to working on the bug === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:37] mrevell: nice summing up of UDS [15:37] czajkowski, Thanks. It's a bit of a ramble... [15:39] mrevell: it's the only way to keep a trakc of things and the reason I daily blog while at UDS so I can go back and see what I did [15:39] czajkowski, Yeah, taking notes each day is really important I reckon. [15:40] I used to use tomboy now more or less I can get the jost of stuff if I've forgotten if someone has been a good note taker on the etherpad [16:32] sinzui: you're on a roll with these mails [16:33] czajkowski, I am ill, I fuelled by sugar, caffeine and fever. [16:35] sinzui: so you're being productive post UDs with ubuflu [16:35] I am try to be productive. I really hope some code lands the change Lp because I what I am writing. [16:37] sinzui: you poked nigelb [16:37] who? what? where? [16:38] I have in the past, but I think he needs to choose his part in my victory rather I choose his part in his downfall [16:38] lol [16:38] Lp will burn out a developer quickly if that pace is bad [16:39] I take frequent breaks from LP for sanity. [16:39] hah, well this is a great convo to start my first day with :) [16:40] rick_h_: Heh [16:41] rick_h_: ello [16:41] howdy czajkowski [16:44] mrevell: how is dan getting on === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [17:00] czajkowski, He's settling in really well, cheers. [17:03] yay === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [19:21] is there any way to reliably follow uploads with getPublishedSources? It has a created_since_date parameter, but it looks to me like it'll pick up some uploads during iteration though its result set [19:21] the result set appears to be alphabetical, so it's probably not picking up everything that was uploaded during iteration, right? [19:38] does it take time for a mail to show up in the mailing list archive after being posted? [19:42] serfus, There is a backlog of list mail. Mail is going to users withing 30 minutes, but I think the archive delay is hours or days behind [19:43] oh i see. thanks sinzui [19:45] serfus, I think the http://www.mail-archive.com/ archive of public Lp lists is current with user receipts of email. You can search for "launchpad" and your team name to find the list [19:46] oh nice [19:47] it does hold some mails which are not in the LP archive yet [20:04] Hi, I created a new user with some symbols in my password, and can't login with it. [20:05] Symbols include - > " _ [20:05] I requested a password reset about 10 minutes ago, but haven't gotten an email back about it yet. === benji changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Launchpad is an open source project: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | User Guide: https://help.launchpad.net/ | Support: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [23:40] Co-founder of social network site Diaspora, Ilya Zhitomirskiy, dies at 22: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/co-founder-of-social-network-site-diaspora-ilya-zhitomirskiy-dies-at-22/2011/11/14/gIQA7m3LLN_story.html