[00:00] How did I miss that? [00:00] thanks! [00:00] not recommended to use unless oyu know what you're doing [00:00] e.g. a perl transition is about to come which will disrupt the archvie quite a bit [00:01] I'll make it through--I have 2 other OSs on this machine should the worst happen [00:01] and win 8 [00:02] gawd it is bad.... 8 clicks to shut-down === jason is now known as Guest62563 === jason is now known as Guest38588 === Guest38588 is now known as jasef === jason is now known as Guest19072 === lenios__ is now known as lenios_ === jason is now known as Guest74183 === Guest74183 is now known as jasef [14:08] guys, anyone know if the improved multi-monitor support is testable/installable on Oneiric? I had to switch over the KDE for now because unity wouldn't support my three monitor setup...I'd like to switch back sooner rather than later... [14:08] jbwiv_: #ubuntu [14:08] even if you could, it's focused on 2 monitor support [14:09] when did this happen ^^ ? [14:10] Ian_Corne, huh? I saw a video online demostrating 6 monitor support in the 12.04?! [14:10] if ubuntu has focused solely on dual monitors that is a BIG step backwards [14:11] jbwiv_, I have seen 6 monitor set ups with most of the ubuntu versions this past few years... [14:16] ya, I love my 6 monitor setup [14:17] need a 40" screen with the >100 dpi [14:19] that would be sweet ") [14:21] next would need a video card that supported > 2600x? [14:22] coz_: it would really be a shame if it's limited to 2 monitors but it would a least still be an improvement, as sometimes I get the impression that multi monitor isn't tested at all (like indicator menus properly working only on one monitor) [14:23] hmm 100dpi 40" would be 3500x1970 [14:23] geser, I doubt many multiple monitor set ups are tested adequately.. although, again, if it is now ONLY dual monitor support..then it is an enormouse backstep for the distribution [14:24] enormous [14:24] there are thousands and thousands of ubuntu users who have dual and more monitors on their systems [14:26] any attempt to fiddle around with multi monitor support is a death sentence for ubuntu [14:27] coz_, where are you getting your figures from? [14:27] jasef, years of support [14:27] coz_, you've supported several thousand users with dual monitors? [14:27] dual or more* [14:28] why several thousands? [14:28] jasef, hundreds personally,, but considering the trend in multi monitor set ups the figures cannot be that far off [14:28] if he had to, that means he supported every single ubuntu user [14:29] none the less, any step "backwards" , in this case multi monitor support, is foolish [14:29] patdk-wk, I said 'several thousand' because coz_ stated before 'thousands and thousands of ubuntu users' use two or more >.> [14:30] geser, which video cards do you have? [14:31] thousands and thousands = several thousands [14:32] patdk-wk, I know that - that's why I said it. [14:32] if coz has helped 100 ubuntu users, and 10/20 used dual monitors [14:32] that would be a reasonable scale up [14:32] * patdk-wk wonders how ubuntu vm's fit in, without any monitors :) [14:32] an ATI HD* (don't know the exact number, but it's a couple of years old now) and I use the free radeon driver (didn't had time to figure out how to properly set up fglfx with dual monitors) [14:33] geser, ok I am an idiot with ati cards,,, have you checked in #radeon at all? [14:33] geser, you have only one dual head card? [14:34] coz_: i didn' tsay only [14:34] Ian_Corne, oh ok :) [14:34] but i thought I read somewhere that they are focusing on enhancing the experience with more then one monitor, specifically 2 [14:34] so they're not taking anything back :p [14:34] cool [14:35] concern is now ended :) [14:35] yes, only one card, didn't check in #radeon as the free driver works (though only 2d) and I didn't need 3d acceleration in the past [14:35] geser, again with ati I am not skilled with,, how were you getting the 3rd monitor on a dual head card? [14:36] geser, driver? [14:36] so who's testing 12.04 and if so what's it like so far for desktops with nvidia graphics? [14:36] BluesKaj, that's why I am hanging out here :) [14:37] hey coz_ :) [14:37] coz_: I've only 2 monitors and my card has 2 connectors, so no problem :) [14:37] BluesKaj, hey guy :) i think we both know nvidia will break several times before release,, regardless :) [14:38] geser, ok I may have not read correctly then,, I thought you wanted three monitors connected [14:38] yup, think I'll do the real tsting on my other linux machine ...this is our media server , don't want the wife's wrath on me this time :) [14:39] BluesKaj, I completely understand :) [14:42] * BluesKaj wonders what major changes to expect on 12.04/Kubuntu [14:44] coz_: unity won't work with xinerama on 11.10. Nor will unity 2d [14:45] that's why I'm on kde now [14:45] temporarily [14:45] jbwiv_, which video card? [14:46] xinerama = one desktop spanning 2 monitors? [14:46] BluesKaj, http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/11/6-key-changes-in-next-ubuntu-1204_12.html [14:46] coz_: nvidia [14:46] geser, or three in my case [14:47] jbwiv_, mm well compiz doesnt work with xinerama but needs nvidia's version of it [14:47] I've unity-2d on my dual monitors setup (with the free radeon driver and obviously an ATI card) [14:47] coz_ two cards: GeForce GT 440 and GeForce 9800 GT [14:47] geser, dual monitors work fine [14:48] especially with things like nvidia's twinview [14:48] jbwiv_, mm so you want the 3 monitors? [14:48] but when you go above two... [14:48] the 2 cards make things complicate? [14:48] coz_, yes [14:48] geser, just the need to support three monitor. that requires two cards [14:48] ^^ [14:48] kde4 supports the three out of the box. unity+compiz and unity2d both break [14:49] jbwiv_, mm.. check in #ayatana [14:49] coz_, that's new to me. I'll take a look [14:49] jbwiv_, see if they have any reason for it,,you can also ask smspillaz in #ayatana since he is the main developer for compiz which Unity runs under [14:50] coz_: cool. thanks! [14:50] I don't know who is responsible for that work item for 12.04, but let them know they should also check with 3 monitors (or more). at least it's still early enough that it might be considered (during beta it's mostly to late for such things) [14:51] geser, I saw it demonstrated across six monitors on 12.04. looked good and functional [14:51] I'm just hoping those features will trickle into 11.10 === Lynx is now known as Guest29176 [14:54] jbwiv_, #ayatana can be slow at times... so just hang out there... not often really a support channel as it is a development channel,, if they get rude move to #compiz-dev to speak with smspillaz,,, although he has been in and out there and also lives in austrailia so adjust to your time zone [14:56] coz_, ok, thanks man. very helpful. I appreciate it! [14:56] jbwiv_, no problem [14:57] jbwiv_, again sam = smspillaz.. has mainly moved to the #ayatana channel but still frequents #compiz-dev which is where I believe he should be :) === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Lynx is now known as Guest8509 === max is now known as Visionaire === max is now known as Visionaire === max is now known as Visionaire [21:43] BBL, stuff to do