freglAlanBell: maybe you want to add the qt accessibility feed to the a11y planet http://labs.qt.nokia.com/category/labs/accessibility/feed/10:52
AlanBellfregl: added, but nothing recent enough in that feed to make the front page11:16
freglAlanBell: it's fine, we'll blog when there's real news :)11:45
* joanie pings anyone who is listening ;) ;)12:39
joanieSo I just did a search of packages.ubuntu.com12:39
joanieOneiric is shipping pygobject 3.0.012:39
joanieF16 is shipping 3.0.2 which is to my knowledge the latest stable version12:40
joanieOn the Oneiric line above, stick a question mark at the end12:40
joanieThe reason I'm asking is that there's a bug fix in pygobject 3.0.2 which Orca needs12:41
Pendulumstable tarball on the pygobject website says 3.0 as current stable release (I'm looking at http://live.gnome.org/PyGObject )12:42
joaniePendulum, follow that link12:44
Pendulumbut I will look into it and see who to poke and see if we can get 3.0.2 into an update12:44
Pendulumyeah, now I see12:44
Pendulumso will see who I can find about that and poke12:45
MrChrisDruifGood spot joanie 12:46
* Pendulum has poked pitti 12:47
PendulumI think he's likely the correct person12:47
Pendulumjoanie: how soon is it going to break Orca if we don't fix it and can I get a brief description of why it's needed past the general?12:49
Pendulum(I just want as much information as possible in case I get asked)12:50
joaniebecause there's some bug fixes since 3.0.0 which Orca requires in order for rebinding of keybindings to work12:50
joanieand today is a GNOME stable release day12:51
joanieand I am going to make an Orca tarball for stable release12:51
Pendulumhopefully pitti will get back to me soon12:51
joanieand Ubuntu isn't shipping the stable release of pygobject 3.012:51
Pendulumthey've got 3.0.2 in Precise so I'm not sure if there's a specific reason they haven't stuck it into an Oneiric update or not12:53
joanieanyhoo, in asking at the upstream level, it looks like I am "allowed" to bump Orca's minimum required version of pygobject 3 to the GNOME official stable version of that module (3.0.2)12:53
joaniei.e. because Orca stable is part of gnome stable. ditto for pygobject12:53
joanieif you follow what I'm saying12:53
Pendulumwell, I've poked the person who has done all the most recent pygobject uploads. My guess is he's currently at lunch so hopefully he'll get back to me relatively soon :)12:55
Pendulumjoanie: can you check to see if what needs to be fixed has already been done in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/pygobject/+changelog ?13:23
Pendulumthey've apparently already backported some patches13:24
Pendulum(and if they haven't already backported the one that effects Orca, are happy to do so)13:24
joaniek thanks!13:24
* joanie looks13:24
joanieThis one for sure: http://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/commit/?h=pygobject-3-0&id=611f58b99851328653af4930f188c33eccaa9f6f13:26
joanieI suspect this one is needed(ish) http://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/commit/?h=pygobject-3-0&id=0f1eb9fa0e7aa5e7c22dabc709c0dfb469e404f113:26
AlanBellboth those look to be in13:26
joanieand then you'll just have to change Orca's config.ac13:28
joaniebecause I'm bumping the minimum version there13:28
joaniewouldn't it be easier to just ship latest stable?13:28
AlanBellthat would be a rolling release13:29
PendulumAlanBell: where do you see that they're in?13:30
AlanBell  * Add 00git_wrapper_ref.patch: When converting an object with transfer none,13:30
AlanBell    make sure the wrapper owns a ref. (LP: #874299)13:30
Pendulumyeah, that one I saw13:30
AlanBell  * Add 00git_allow_gboxed_properties.patch: Add the GBoxed type as valid type13:31
AlanBell    to the gobject property helper. This fixes the "snippets" gedit plugin.13:31
AlanBell    Patch taken from upstream git head.  (LP: #877397)13:31
Pendulumah, okay13:31
* Pendulum wonders who can put in the patch for Orca's config.ac 13:33
Pendulumlooks like it'll be a matter of poking Luke13:34
AlanBellare we getting a new orca in oneiric?13:34
Pendulumor, rather, I suppose we should ask Luke if he thinks it's worth doing :P13:35
* Pendulum tends to be in favour of getting updates into things or at least available for them should people want them13:36
AlanBellme too13:39
AlanBellmy onboard themes got merged in earlier13:40
AlanBellbug 62606413:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 626064 in onboard "onboard: add haptic feedback" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62606413:49
AlanBellPendulum: what do you think of Simon so far?16:03
PendulumAlanBell: I haven't installed yet16:14
AlanBellum, I meant the persona!16:32
joanieAnyone have any ideas if this reported bug is still valid? (I'm guessing not or we would have heard more about it from users and/or you) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58588618:27
ubot2Gnome bug 585886 in speech "Speech stops, Orca app crashes or freezes, when updating Ubuntu, opening apps in system menu." [Normal,Unconfirmed]18:27

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