hggdhjtaylor: to the package01:19
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icerootfor packages from multiverse "sponsors" are responsable for fixes/reviews??14:00
ubot4Launchpad bug 851725 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) "flashplugin-downloader is suggesting msttcorefonts but the package is called ttf-mscorefonts-installer (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]14:01
icerootand because of that i guess they want a debdiff instead of my normal patch14:03
icerootah there is a patch-pilot on devel14:03
icerootwhat to do when i THINK a bug is an upstream-bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/88744214:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 887442 in evolution (Ubuntu) "evolution is using the wrong color to mark missspelled words. yellow instead of red (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]14:14
brendandiceroot - what reason do you have to think it's *not* an upstream bug?14:15
icerootbrendand: because maybe ubuntu patched something14:15
hggdhiceroot: for the evo bug: open upstream, and chat with the evo developers on #evolution on irc.gimp.net14:16
iceroothggdh: thank you, i will do so14:16
hggdhiceroot: you can always check, looking at the bzr branch of the package14:16
brendandiceroot - 95% chance that unless you can think of a reason why it might be an ubuntu specific problem then it is in fact upstream14:17
iceroothggdh: brendand u just was not sure what is the correct way to report such bugs because its affecting ubuntu and maybe vanilla-evolution14:17
brendandof course a great way to make sure if to have e.g. debian on a vm and install the vanilla packages there to check.14:20
icerootbrendand: but maybe debian patched something too :)14:21
hggdhiceroot: you will usually need to look at the source package. There are (basically) two types of "Ubuntu" bugs: packaging issues, and patching issues14:21
hggdhfor patching, just look at the ./debian/patches directory of the source package14:22
iceroothggdh: not always easy for a normal user to see what has been patched, even when looking at the patch-file14:23
iceroothggdh: i will create a upstream-bug, link the launchpad-bug against it and will see what is happening then14:23
seb128it's a duplicate of bug #82935114:24
ubot4Launchpad bug 829351 in evolution (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Misspelled words are highlighted in yellow instead of red (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 19)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82935114:24
hggdhiceroot: well, I did not suggest it would be easy ;-). But, then, a so-called "normal user" would not even know of upstreams :-)14:24
hggdhseb128: thank you, dear sir14:25
iceroothggdh: ok its upstream and there is already a patch. http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/commit/?id=d4571114e8b8949922213ac23825075880e59231  so what are the next steps?14:34
brendandiceroot - link it upstream and the LP bug will get updated as the upstream one progresses14:36
icerootbrendand: done14:36
icerootthanks for the help14:38
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icerootwhat is the correct tag if something is fixed upstream?15:21
hggdhiceroot: no chances on our bug -- if you linked the LP bug to upstream, Launchpad will automatically update the status of the upstream bug15:43
iceroothggdh: ok15:47
RedSingularitymvo: available?16:03
RedSingularitymvo: when you get a chance, have a look at bug 878719.  Not sure what the culprit is.  Even a clean install of the update-manager and its config files didnt help the issue.16:07
ubot4Launchpad bug 878719 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update manager comes to a contineous "processing" status (with the rotating cursor pointer) when the "Install updates" button is pressed (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87871916:07
mvoRedSingularity: ohhh, so the bug in comment #4 is a bug in u-m that happend during the porting. should only affect people who do not have aptdaemon installed16:41
icerootwhat is happening to bugs which are only affecting a EOL-version of ubuntu? are they closed as "invalid"? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxde-common/+bug/30998317:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 309983 in lxde-common (Ubuntu) "icon at LXDE panel not appearing fine (affects: 2) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]17:13
bdmurrayno they should be tested in the latest release of Ubuntu if the package is still available17:13
icerootbdmurray: firefox-3.0 is no longer available and the bug does not affect higher version of lubuntu and firefox17:14
bdmurraythen won't fix sounds like the correct status17:14
icerootbdmurray: ok17:15
icerootbdmurray: seems i can not change the state to "wont fix"17:15
bdmurrayif you can not set that status, add a comment saying why it should be won't fix and let me know and I'll set the right status17:15
icerootbdmurray: ok17:16
icerootbdmurray: done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxde-common/+bug/30998317:18
ubot4Launchpad bug 309983 in lxde-common (Ubuntu) "icon at LXDE panel not appearing fine (affects: 2) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]17:18
bdmurrayiceroot: more information about what supported ubuntu version you tested this with would be helpful for people in the future17:19
bdmurrayiceroot: rather than having to try and think about what releases were supported in 2011-11 ...17:19
icerootbdmurray: done17:20
bdmurrayiceroot: wow, thanks for testing with all of those releases!  I've set the task to Won't Fix.17:21
icerootbdmurray: yes, i made some vms in the last month for better support on creating bugs (especially to see what versions are affected from bugs i created)17:21
bdmurray"bugs I created"?17:22
icerootbdmurray: opened :)17:23
bdmurraygot it17:23
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iceroothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/851725  is the patch from me the correct way of fixing this issue? do i have to put someone on cc on that bug? for universe i know i have to use debdiff and ubuntu-sponsors. what about multiverse?17:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 851725 in flashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu) "flashplugin-downloader is suggesting msttcorefonts but the package is called ttf-mscorefonts-installer (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]17:26
bdmurrayiceroot: the bug bot that commented on that bug has put it in the right queue17:27
icerootbdmurray: ok i was just wondering because its 2 month old (i know its not an important issue)17:28
icerootso i was not sure about "ubuntu-sponsors" "debdiff" and "multiverse"17:29
bdmurrayiceroot: having a patch instead of a debdiff creates slightly more work for a developer to upload the package so if it were a debdiff it'd go to a different queue and may get fixed faster17:33
icerootbdmurray: ah i though a debdiff would be more work because a patch can placed in debian/patches and works on every new version and a debdiff is only working against the latest source-package17:34
bdmurrayiceroot: because its a change to the control file it wouldn't go into debian/patches17:38
bdmurrayiceroot: and this does not qualify for an SRU so it would only be fixed in the development release (precise)17:38
icerootbdmurray: why should it be a SRU?17:39
icerootif i understand SRU correctly its bringing new versions of a package in an existing release (like a major update)17:40
bdmurrayiceroot: I was saying it shouldn't be released in an update for a stable release of Ubuntu17:40
hggdhiceroot: no, new versions in stable releases is generically known as a backport18:42
hggdhSRUs are usually much more contained, and maintain the same version18:43
roadmrhehe so as long as we're talking SRUs, are string changes SRUable? I have an updated string in trunk and would like that change to make it into 11.10, will it be accepted?18:52
hggdhif it is important enough, yes19:04
hggdhif it is just a cosmetic fix, no new and important information being conveyed, chances are it will be refused19:04
roadmrhggdh: we refer to "sound preferences" when it should be "sound settings"19:05
hggdhroadmr: it might be enough, since we would then be directing the user to an incorrect place19:06
hggdhworth to bite the bullet, and try19:06
roadmrhggdh: ok, sounds reasonable, I'll try that then, thanks :)19:07
ersiIt's all in the motivation19:07
roadmrersi: it's just to fix confusing strings (two of them) - I guess it'll be up to the SRU reviewer to decide whether it's worthwhile19:08
ersiIt's still all in the motivation :-)19:09
bkerensaHi yofel..... apparently Gstreamer's phonon backend is broken21:37
bkerensashould I report this or do we have a open bug ?21:37
yofelbkerensa: I don't know of one offhand - phonon-backend-gstreamer works fine for me21:49
bkerensayofel: Well one of the devs from #tomahawk said you were aware that phonon-backend-gstreamer is bugging21:49
* bkerensa cant get it to work with Tomahawk but the VLC phonon works fine21:49
yofellet's move there actually21:50
bkerensaok will do21:50

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