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fosburg how do I find out where memory is being used?  I'm a newbe to linux and ubuntu00:46
bjsniderfosburg, try top, or htop00:50
fosburgthanks for the info--but I don't know what 'top' is00:51
bjsnideropen a terminal and type "top" and hit return00:53
fosburgok--I understand that. thanks00:55
fosburgwell I'm learning a little--'htop' was not installed and I installed it from the terminal01:11
fosburgmemory use bounces around from 2+% to 20%01:12
bjsnideryou can also use system-monitor01:15
fosburgIs there a HELP where I can get definitions to term such as; Tasks, Load averages, etc?01:15
fosburg'system-monitor' is that entered from the terminal?01:17
bjsnidersure, you can call it from the terminal with gnome-system-monitor01:20
bjsnideryou can also use alt+f01:20
bjsniderf201:20
bjsnideri think it's one of unity's icons in the app launcher area01:21
pittiGood morning05:22
TheMusopitti: Morning. With that work item you added to the accessibility pollsih spec with regards to menus, do you know whether those menus will likely have icons in them that will need extra descriptions?05:31
pittiTheMuso: I don't know much about that new menu system05:35
TheMusopitti: Right, I guess the first thing is whether we are going to get the newer GTK that uses that in the first place.05:36
pittiTheMuso: might be, but it doesn't really affect that WI05:36
pittithe new menu system should be designed right from the start for a11y regardless of whether it lands in precise or Q05:37
TheMusopitti: True.05:39
pittiRAOF: do you have time for some SRU reviews today?05:58
RAOFpitti: Absolutely.05:59
pittiRAOF: I'm doing some now, too (and some sponsoring), but e. g. p-distutils-extra is my upload, so I can't review that05:59
RAOFI noticed the 27-item oneiric queue, and then decided to ensure that all the blueprints that I should be interested in are ready.05:59
RAOF)05:59
RAOF:)05:59
pittiheh05:59
RAOFI'll start from the top of the queue and work down?06:02
pittiRAOF: okay06:03
pittiRAOF: I started from teh bottom06:03
pittiRAOF: please do review p-d-extra at the bottom, though06:03
pittiRAOF: moving to lucid now06:21
pittiSweetshark: uploaded; but it needs a precise upload, too (with higher version number), can you please prepare one?06:33
pittiRAOF: I'll stop -proposed review now; I'll do the pending kernel SRU stuff, then doing some real work06:34
pittilike unbreaking precise (grr @ gzip)06:34
RAOFI'll try to finish off the rest of proposed before (or possibly after) knocking off, then.06:35
pittigreat, thanks06:35
didrocksgood morning07:51
pittibonjour didrocks07:51
didrocksguten morgen pitti. How are you?07:51
pittiI'm fine, thanks!07:52
pittiunfortunately gzip isn't :(07:52
* pitti pulls his hair out on bug 88930307:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 889303 in libtasn1-3 "libtasn1-3 2.10-1 32/64-bit refuses to install (11/11/2011 updates)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88930307:52
didrocksgood luck :)07:53
hrwhi09:33
hrwpitti: I think I know why it is09:33
pittihey hrw09:34
pittihrw: the gzip unpredictability?09:34
hrwpitti: no09:34
hrwpitti: when we do build for amd64 we build only amd64 package and it gets docs inside. when we build i386 it also makes 'all' packages which often gets docs and i386 ones have symlinks to 'all' one09:34
pittihrw: that case got fixed a while ago in pkgbinarymangler09:35
hrwpitti: I noticed that when got hit by multiarch problem some time ago09:35
pittibut that's not the cause of bug 88930309:35
ubot2Launchpad bug 889303 in gzip "gzip -9n sometimes generates a different output file on 64 bit" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88930309:35
hrwok09:35
pitti(I retitled the bug after adding a workaround to libtasn1-3)09:35
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seb128hey09:37
didrocksgood morning seb12809:39
seb128hey didrocks09:39
seb128how are you? has was the ubuntuparty?09:40
didrocksI'm a little bit tired by the week-end, but the ubuntu party was really nice (not as much people as we used to have though)09:40
pittibonjour seb12809:40
didrocksbut 9 hours of giving conferences/lessons/classroom is quite tiring in 3 days :)09:40
seb128hey pitti, how are you?09:40
didrockstried to attract some new contributors as well and I think it worked out, so was really nice!09:41
seb128didrocks, was the feedback to unity better this cycle?09:41
didrocksa little bit better, not as much as I wanted though (especially from the people coming for installing ubuntu on other computers)09:41
didrockstried to have some stats of who is using unity09:42
seb128they still try to access a flat list of applications rather than trying to use searches?09:42
didrocks(especially in the conference "what's new in 11.10, which attracts more users than contributors)09:42
seb128that seems to be the main issue old users have with unity (that and the lack of configurability)09:42
didrocksinteristingly, way less than before09:43
didrocksso that's a good point :)09:43
seb128great09:43
didrocksand in the "discovering unity" classes I gave, I really underline this point and got no objection09:43
didrocksso I think we are making good progress there :)09:43
seb128\o/09:44
didrocksso next week-end, jdll (Friday and Saturday) and the week-end after ubuntu party in Toulouse09:44
didrocksand then, finally enjoying a quiet week-end at home :-)09:45
seb128;-)09:45
seb128don't miss the didrocks ubuntu tour!09:46
didrocksahah :)09:46
rodrigo_hello09:47
seb128hey rodrigo_09:48
didrockshey rodrigo_09:48
pittihey rodrigo_, good morning09:48
rodrigo_hi seb128, didrocks, pitti09:49
pittimvo: hey, how are you?09:49
mvopitti: good, thanks! how are you?09:50
pittimvo: I'm fine, thanks!09:50
pittimvo: who "owns" lp:sessioninstaller, glatzor or you?09:50
pittimvo: I'd like to take a stab at porting it to GTK3/GI09:51
* pitti just updated the "pygtk rdepends" section at the bottom of http://pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop09:51
mvopitti: its shared, feel free to attack it09:51
mvopitti: you are part of aptdaemon-developers? if not, I can probably add you09:51
seb128pitti, was it much outdated?09:52
pittimvo: oh, I can push09:52
seb128I should update those lists09:52
pittiseb128: onboard, s-c, and ubiquity got ported09:52
pittiso I removed them09:52
mvopitti: glatzor is busy with work currently and has to do a review/merge for me before anyway, so porting should be fine :)09:52
pittignome-codec-install seems a bit stale09:52
pittiis that still being used upstream?09:52
pittimvo: ah, so I should push into a branch and wait for him to review?09:53
pittimvo: do you know why the ubuntu package's 02_no_crash_on_install_provides.patch was never merged upstream?09:53
pitti(bug 762431)09:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 762431 in sessioninstaller "session-installer crashed with ModifyInternalError in _install_provide_files(): org.freedesktop.Packagekit.Modify.InternalError: This method hasn't yet been implemented. (dup-of: 716711)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76243109:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 716711 in sessioninstaller "session-installer crashed with ModifyInternalError in _install_provide_files(): org.freedesktop.Packagekit.Modify.InternalError: This method hasn't yet been implemented." [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71671109:53
pittiI guess it's deliberately throwing an error upstream to remind that this is a TODO?09:54
seb128pitti, gnome-codec-install is the small debian,ubuntu install-missing-codecs, I don't think it changed a lot for years but there is a recent design spec to rework it, I don't sign anyone signed to do the work though09:58
mvopitti: yeah, please branch and propose for merging, glatzor or I will review and merge into trunk10:01
mvopitti: I think we can get rid of gnome-codec-installer in favor of the session installer nowdays10:01
pittithat's what I thought10:03
pittimvo: btw, I created lp:~aptdaemon-developers/sessioninstaller/ubuntu-precise10:04
mvopitti: great, thanks!10:07
pittididrocks: is "Bob The Builder" a new bot of your's?10:30
didrockspitti: no, it's the daily build that unity-2d has for a while (but not linked at all to branch autolanding, which is what I'm working on)10:31
pittididrocks: I just got four mails from it reopening "fix released" bugs to "fix committed"10:31
didrockspitti: I only have a prototype made in 3 days there, I'm waiting on the RT ticket to be processed by IS to have access to the QA machines10:31
didrockspitti: yeah, seems a question for Kaleo10:31
Kaleopitti: sorry, it went crazy10:32
Kaleodidrocks: note for later, if a branch is merged that links to bugs as fix released, it will revert them to fix commited10:32
Kaleo(we are talking about tarmac here)10:33
didrocksKaleo: I do that as well in my prototype, it adds the right bugs and such :)10:33
Kaleodidrocks: what is that prototype?10:33
Kaleodidrocks: tarmac?10:33
didrocksKaleo: it's what was discussed at UDS10:33
didrocksbasically, tarmac + some patches  + a jenkins plugin I wrote10:34
Kaleodidrocks: ok10:34
Kaleodidrocks: so if you use tarmac, beware of that bug10:34
didrocksthen it calls a jenkins job, which trigger a pbuilder building the package for each commits10:34
didrocksrunning tests10:34
Kaleodidrocks: yep10:34
didrocksif all passes, telling "ok" to tarmac which merge the branch10:34
didrocksand push to trunk10:34
Kaleodidrocks: great10:35
didrocksand dput the package10:35
didrocksthere are additional criterias like bugs linked in merge request, and other pre-requisites…10:35
didrocks3 days to build it without knowing anything about tarmac and jenkins or how to write a plugin. It handles as well autotools and autoreconf nicely (which was not that straightforward in the pbuilder) ;)10:36
didrockspitti: is there any process to put a RT ticket as a priority? it stalled for a week and that's what is blocking pushing it to production (first with only one upstream component)10:37
pittididrocks: I don't know; try asking cjwatson? He at least knows whom to poke10:38
didrockspitti: ok thanks :)10:38
Kaleopitti, didrocks:https://bugs.launchpad.net/tarmac/+bug/89016110:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 890161 in tarmac "Bugs set to fix released are reverted to fix committed" [Undecided,New]10:39
didrocksKaleo: why the same bug is linked to the new merge proposal btw?10:39
didrocksKaleo: the patch is simple to do, but I want to be sure it's really needed10:40
pittiit doesn't actually seem wrong10:40
pittisometimes you need to fix a bug harder10:40
pittiso if a bug is fixed, and a MP claims to fix it, there's something wrong10:40
didrocksindeed, I quite agree10:41
Kaleodidrocks: the submitter of the MR just did something wrong10:42
didrocksyeah, but I see valid cases as well, in this case, the issue is the submitter of the MR10:43
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone10:44
didrockshey chrisccoulson10:44
chrisccoulsonhi didrocks, how are you?10:44
didrockschrisccoulson: I'm a little bit exhausted by the week-end, but fine otherwise, thanks! You?10:45
chrisccoulsonsame ;)10:45
chrisccoulsoni just arrived back from berlin10:45
pittihey chrisccoulson10:56
chrisccoulsonhi pitti, how are you?10:56
pittichrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks!10:57
pittichrisccoulson: ah, what did you do in Berlin?10:57
chrisccoulsonpitti - i went to mozcamp10:58
pittichrisccoulson: ah, great, had some good discussions there?11:01
chrisccoulsonpitti, yeah, it was quite interesting. i will write up a trip report in a bit :)11:02
seb128bah, bug #889791, floppies...11:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 889791 in nautilus "Clicking on floppy drive item under "devices" on the nautilus sidebar does nothing" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88979111:11
seb128hey chrisccoulson, how are you?11:11
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, i'm not too bad thanks. still recovering from UDS though!11:12
chrisccoulsonhow are you?11:12
pittiseb128: flopppies> I wish there was a LP bug status "I f***** don't care" :)11:12
seb128pitti, same here! ;-)11:13
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm fine, mostly went over my ubuflu11:13
seb128it's left to small after cold side effects11:14
nessitahello everyone!11:47
seb128hey nessita11:47
pittihey nessita11:47
seb128how are you?11:47
nessitagood! planning my holidays, which are next week :-)11:48
nessitaso, I'm very very happy11:48
seb128didrocks, bug #889996 is about the unity_support_test being incompatible with remote logins (xdmcp, vnc, etc)11:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 889996 in nux "Automatic unity 2D fallback does not work with XDMCP logins over VNC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88999611:48
seb128didrocks, is that something you want assigned to you?11:48
seb128nessita, ;-)11:48
didrocksseb128: I would prefer someone more familiar with XDMCP can have a look at it11:49
didrocksnot sure what it triggers or if it gives wrong result11:50
didrocksand I have short echeance for two things which should already be landed previous cycle by dx11:50
didrocksso trying to rush to get things moving11:50
seb128didrocks, well it's basically "checking for local capability is wrong when the session connect to a different machine"11:50
nessitaseb128: I have a initial-packaging branch for a project, would you like to review it and if correct, sponsor it?11:50
seb128nessita, I can do11:50
seb128didrocks, it's an item for the cycle, no hurry to fix it11:51
didrocksseb128: so, the checking should be changed by the dx guys11:51
didrocksseb128: as they are the maintainer of this tool11:51
nessitaseb128: be as picky as you can, there is a lot about packaging I don't know and wanna learn. Branch is: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/qt4reactor/initial-packaging11:51
seb128didrocks, ok, well it's the caching logic which is buggy but I can try to see with jay11:52
didrocksseb128: how is it the caching which is the trouble?11:52
didrocksseb128: if it answered 0 first, nux answered 011:53
seb128didrocks, because you boot your computer, the cache is done for the local hardware but you open a distant xserver11:53
seb128so the cache is wrong, it doesn't apply to the right machine, server11:53
seb128but the session still read the tmp cache11:53
seb128i.e on lightdm you pick a thin client login for example11:53
didrocksseb128: assign it to me, but it will be for later, not now11:54
seb128didrocks, sure11:54
pittimvo: ah, session-installer is mostly working now; found another Gtk bug while porting :/12:20
pittimvo: tested --install-gstreamer and --install-package now12:25
mvopitti: \o/12:29
pittimvo: I'll try to debug/fix the gtk crash after lunch, and then submit a MP12:30
pittiwhen commenting out the tooltip, it doesn't crash, and everythign works12:30
mvopitti: is the tooltip maybe going out of scope? I had a similar issue in some other project about a menu iirc12:31
mvopitti: or is this something totally different?12:31
Sweetsharkeh, so what is the canonical way to SRU this? 3.4.4-0ubuntu1 for -proposed and 3.4.4-0ubuntu2 for oneiric? or something like 3.4.4-0ubuntu1~proposed1 for -proposed and 3.4.4-0ubuntu1 for oneiric?12:31
DavieySweetshark: what package?12:31
SweetsharkDaviey: libreoffice12:32
Sweetsharkpitti: ^^12:32
SweetsharkDaviey: sorry, I wanted to ask in reply to pitti. ...12:32
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Pendulumpitti: are you the person to poke about pygobject?12:47
rodrigo_wow, just found the 'email' option in simple-scan, definitely replacing xsane with this :)13:04
* rodrigo_ lunch13:10
pittimvo: I have a hunch what's going on; it's not the tooltip itself, I think it's free()ing the GtkTreeModel13:16
pittiSweetshark: yes, you can use ubuntu2 for the precise upload13:17
pittiSweetshark: but the standard way is to have ubuntu1 in precise, and for the SRU use ubuntu0.1 or ubuntu1~oneiric13:17
pittiPendulum: I'll try my best13:17
Pendulumpitti: I was contacted by the Orca developers because they're about to make a change to Orca which requires pygobject 3.0.2 and they noticed that Oneiric only has 3.0.0.13:19
Pendulumis there any way of backporting pygobject 3.0.2 as an update for Oneric so that the Orca update doesn't break things?13:20
pittiPendulum: oneiric-updates has a number of backported patches already which might be enough13:20
pittiPendulum: so if they need a particular one, we can backport that, yes13:20
pittihttp://git.gnome.org/browse/pygobject/log/ -> there aren't too many commits between .0 and .213:21
Pendulumpitti: is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-leb/oneiric/+source/pygobject where I'd be able to show them the changes to see if what they need has been updated?13:21
pittiPendulum: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/pygobject/+changelog13:23
Pendulumpitti: looks like the patches are already in that are needed. Thanks!13:31
pittiyay13:31
didrockstaking my train tickets for ubuntu party in Toulouse, bbiab13:36
pittimvo: ok, nailed it; working like charm now13:36
pittimvo: it suggests :i386 variants of the gstreamer packages here, but that's unrelated to my porting13:37
pittimvo: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/sessioninstaller/gtk3/+merge/82142 :)13:38
mvopitti: yeah, I will tweak the cache iteration13:39
* mvo waits for the diff to show up13:39
pittimvo: hm, if I purge gnome-codec-install, it configures /usr/bin/gst-install as alternative which is session-installer13:41
pittithat looks right?13:41
pittii. e. seems we might need to do no more than unseeding it and adding a Breaks: in session-installer to clean it up on ugprades?13:41
pittiI purged gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, and totem pops up session-installer now13:42
mvopitti: yeah, that sounds correct13:42
pittinice, that'll get us rid of python-aptdaemon.gtkwidgets, and python-vte, too13:43
mvo!13:44
mvonice13:44
pittiseed change and C/R/P committed13:45
pittimvo: the MP is diffy now; do you have time for this or shall I ask glatzor?13:47
pitti(no need to do it right now, of course, just asking in general)13:47
mvopitti: thanks, looks fine to me13:56
pittimvo: thanks!13:57
pittimvo: shall we tag a new 0.21 release upstream, or shall I just get a new bzr snapshot?14:00
mvopitti: a new bzr snapshot for now, I leave the releases to glatzor14:01
pitti*nod*14:01
pittimvo: ah, no, ubuntuone control panel still pulls in -vte :(14:09
cyphermoxmorning!14:12
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pittiseb128: ok for me to update GTK to 3.2.2?14:28
seb128pitti, sure14:28
pittiseb128: I want to do an upload for teh recent annotation fix14:28
pittiand while I'm at it..14:28
seb128pitti, want to sru it as well? ;-)14:28
pittido we have major bugs that it fixes?14:28
pittiwell, I'll find out when I do the update14:28
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seb128pitti, not sure about "major" but some segfault fixes, some signal not emitted fixes, some annotations fixes14:32
seb128toolkits are a bit special, I guess people developing on Oneiric would welcome those to be fixed in the stable as well ;-)14:32
seb128pitti, but yeah, no need to do it yourself today if you didn't plan it, we can first update and see at doing a sru later14:33
seb128hey cyphermox, how are you?14:33
cyphermoxdoing alright14:33
cyphermoxthe vacation was fun and very relaxing :)14:33
seb128great ;-)14:33
pittiseb128: of all the upstream fixed bugs, exactly one is reported in LP, with 0 dupes14:34
pittiso, not urgent IMHO14:34
cyphermoxre: blueprints, who is supposed to be the approver? Jason or pitti? I have one spec that needs to be looked into14:34
pitticyphermox: by default me14:34
cyphermoxso I need to fix my bp14:35
seb128pitti, no, not urgent at all, as said it's rather a "would be nice", as said I'm sure that people using Oneiric to do work do appreciate if those fixes reach them but that's a bit orthogonal to SRU needs14:35
seb128cyphermox, if you have time this week do you want to do the evo 3.2.2 stack updates and upload those as srus as well?14:36
cyphermoxsure, if it can wait until post-EST-work-hours :)14:36
cyphermoxin fact, it is indeed pretty important to get them in as srus at least for that annoying POP issue14:37
kenvandineseb128, mind if i do gnome-keyring 3.2.2 for an SRU?14:55
kenvandinefixes bug 87450114:55
ubot2Launchpad bug 874501 in gnome-keyring "couldn't prepare to write out keyring" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87450114:55
pittihey kenvandine14:55
kenvandinehey pitti14:56
pittikenvandine: please remember to upload to precise first, i. e. pick the version number accordingly14:56
kenvandineyeah14:56
seb128hey kenvandine, no please don't, we like Ubuntu being buggy ;-)14:56
kenvandinei am doing that now14:56
kenvandine:)14:56
seb128kenvandine, thanks! ;-)14:56
* kenvandine usually tried to not touch gnome-keyring14:56
kenvandine:)14:56
seb128kenvandine, oh, too late, you touched it, it's sticky!14:56
seb128;-)14:56
kenvandine:-D14:57
pittiwell, at some point Debian will update to 3.2 as well, then we can merge our remaining changes (if we even have any) and sync14:57
pittiso it won't stick forever :)14:57
seb128I don't think we have changes for the keyring stack14:58
seb128which is good ;-)14:58
kenvandineindeed14:59
dobeythere is a command to sync a package over from debian, right?15:01
kenvandinedobey, yes... syncpackage15:01
dobeyoh neat. someone already did; apparently right after i looked at the package in debian and thought "this should be in ubuntu too"15:03
pittigood night everyone!15:22
seb128'night pitti15:23
kenvandinegood night pitti15:27
dobeymeh. pbuilder-dist doesn't work for me in oneiric now; apparently the python modules changed :(15:29
dobeyanyone use pbuilder-dist and have a recommendation on how to fix?15:29
dobeyor should i just go but #ubuntu-devel?15:31
dobeyah, nm. i am dumb15:32
kenvandinedobey, still working for me...15:32
dobeykenvandine: yeah, apparently i did a cp to pbuilder-oneiric, instead of ln -s15:33
kenvandine:)15:33
dobeysomeone moved a python module though, without providing any compat15:33
dobeydamn python developers. :(15:33
BigWhaleseb128, there are a couple of bugs in the upstream related to #6178615:49
BigWhaleone is closed, the other one isn't15:49
seb128kenvandine, can you do the seahorse update as well? it fixes bug #876813 that slangasek reported16:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 876813 in seahorse "seahorse takes forever to start up because it's checking signatures for all keys in the gpg keyring" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87681316:27
kenvandineseb128, sure16:28
seb128thanks16:28
kenvandinenp16:28
seb128rodrigo_, hey, do you think you could review the bugs assigned to you this week?16:29
seb128rodrigo_, you have some g-s-d ones that didn't get any comment from you which are assigned for a while16:29
rodrigo_oh, sorry, forgot about those16:30
rodrigo_seb128, lookinmg now16:30
seb128thanks16:31
glatzorabend mvo,16:48
mvohey glatzor!16:48
mvoglatzor: nice to see you16:48
glatzormvo, nice to see you, too16:49
glatzormvo, a short question, do you know if the dates for the next UDS is already set?16:49
glatzormvo, I have to plan my vacations for 2012 today :)16:49
chrisccoulsonw00t, my luggage has arrived now :)16:49
ogra_chrisccoulson, in orlando ?16:50
ogra_:)16:50
chrisccoulsonogra_, no, from berlin this morning16:50
chrisccoulsoni had to get a connecting flight in brussels and my luggage ended up on the wrong flight16:51
ogra_oh, fun16:51
chrisccoulsonthis is why i hate flying to / from birmingham. i can't seem to get a direct flight anywhere i want to go16:51
ogra_you should change your expectations then :P16:52
chrisccoulsonheh16:52
ogra_just "want" to go somewhere they fly direct16:52
chrisccoulsoni should move closer to an airport that flies to destinations people actually want to travel to16:52
mvoglatzor: I don't think so, but I can inquire for you - that is really really early16:52
glatzormvo, would be great!16:53
glatzormvo, Actually I am quite late. I have to send in my holiday planning on 16th :)16:54
Laneymanchester → orlando was quite reasonable for me16:55
chrisccoulsonLaney, that's why i travel to manchester to fly to orlando :)16:55
Laney:-)16:55
LaneyI mean that I would rather take trains to another airport if possible to get a direct flight16:56
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rodrigo_seb128, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/833397 , we don't need the app_indicator patch anymore, do we?17:15
ubot2Launchpad bug 833397 in gnome-settings-daemon "indicator power displayed twice on panel" [Medium,In progress]17:15
rodrigo_seb128, since we have a indicator-power now?17:15
seb128rodrigo_, ? we don't have indicator code for the power icon17:15
seb128rodrigo_, the indicator patch is needed for keyboard, a11y, etc17:16
rodrigo_seb128, oh, sorry, my fault17:16
seb128rodrigo_, the bug there is that some users whitelist "all" in unity and g-s-d display a systray icon inconditionally17:16
rodrigo_yeah17:17
seb128rodrigo_, g-s-d should display a systray out of GNOME fallback I guess17:17
didrockspitti: can you approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-zeitgeist for precise when you get some time?17:25
seb128didrocks, done17:28
didrocksthanks seb128 ;)17:28
seb128yw ;-)17:28
didrockswhich team can do that, do you know?17:28
didrocksI can only pend them for approval17:29
seb128didrocks, I guess the uds approvers one17:29
didrocksah, the old "ping me for changing the schedule" one :)17:29
seb128I'm in there since I played pitti for one cycle when he was in rotation ;-)17:29
didrocksindeed ;)17:29
rodrigo_out for a bit, bbl18:02
mptchrisccoulson, hi, was it you who asked me during UDS about cleaning up the LibreOffice menus?18:35
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hallynif there are like 100s of pending notify-osd's, is there a way to flush them?22:26
maxb1) Kill notify-osd22:28
maxb2) Use xfce4-notify instead :-)22:28
maxb(or restart notify-osd if you insist)22:28

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