=== jason is now known as Guest62563 === JackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine2 === JackyAlcine2 is now known as JackyAlcine_ === JackyAlcine_ is now known as EvilJackyAlcine === EvilJackyAlcine is now known as JackyAlcine === jason is now known as Guest38588 === Guest38588 is now known as jasef === jason is now known as Guest19072 [08:00] Hey cdbs [08:00] :) === jason is now known as Guest74183 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === Guest74183 is now known as jasef === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [16:01] Hello! [16:01] hi! [16:02] hola! [16:02] OK, let's get started :) [16:02] #startmeeting [16:02] Meeting started Mon Nov 14 16:02:22 2011 UTC. The chair is ara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [16:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:02] Agenda: [16:02] Moving this meeting to bi-weekly? -- ara [16:02] Checkbox Oneiric SRU -- roadmr [16:02] Ubuntu Friendly next deployment -- jedimike [16:02] AOB [16:02] * ara have put items for other people there :D [16:02] #topic Moving this meeting to bi-weekly? -- ara === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Moving this meeting to bi-weekly? -- ara [16:03] OK, so I have been wondering if it'd make sense to move this meeting to a biweekly cadence [16:03] It made sense to have them weekly when we were rushing to get the beta release out [16:03] o/ [16:03] o/ [16:04] now that everything is moving to a more normal pace, shall we move to a biweekly one? [16:04] .. [16:04] jedimike, go ahead [16:04] o/ [16:04] i agree [16:04] .. [16:04] brendand? [16:05] we should, unless we find in future that we are getting to many items to discuss in one meeting. but the chances of this happening are very low [16:05] ... [16:05] roadmr? [16:06] Do consider that things slowed down because of a) the release and b) UDS. I'd probably prefer to wait a couple of weeks to see what "normal" attendance looks like [16:06] but if we're bringing this to a vote, I'm sure the 2-weekers will prevail, and I'm not vehemently opposed, we can just as easily go 2-week and then switch back to weekly if it's too long [16:06] .. [16:07] It is just not a matter of attendance in my opinion, but of development pace [16:07] .. [16:08] o/ [16:08] brendand, yes [16:09] attendance isn't really the factor so much as agenda length. apart from this item we have only two agenda items and two weeks ago we had one [16:09] o/ [16:09] ... [16:09] cr3, go ahead, please [16:10] won't making the meetings bi-weekly affect attendance negatively by lack of mementum? [16:10] .. [16:11] o/ [16:11] ara go ahead :) [16:11] I guess that's the risk, but lack of content can affect negatively as well [16:11] .. [16:12] shall we defer this to the mailing list? [16:13] o/ [16:13] o/ [16:13] roadmr [16:13] I'd like to see this discussed on the mailing list, [16:13] that way we also get the ML moving a bit :) [16:13] .. [16:13] bladernr, your turn [16:13] roadmr: any excuse to generate traffic on the mailing list is all good :) [16:13] I'm just +1-ing the mailing list... I'd imagine there are more people there that may not have been able to make this meeting who'd want to have input on this [16:14] .. [16:14] brendand, jedimike: fine with discussing this at the ml? [16:14] ara: yup [16:15] * brendand is [16:15] #action ara to send an email to the mailing list about the cadence of the meeting [16:15] ACTION: ara to send an email to the mailing list about the cadence of the meeting [16:15] cool! let's move on to a non meta-topic :) [16:15] #topic Checkbox Oneiric SRU -- roadmr === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Checkbox Oneiric SRU -- roadmr [16:16] roadmr, all yours :P [16:16] thanks! [16:16] In order to take care of the most painful checkbox issues in Oneiric, an SRU will be published. It's preferable to do this soon, to avoid a lot of fixes piling up, which can slow things down. [16:16] The list of bugs scheduled for the 0.12.9 release of checkbox is here: [16:16] https://launchpad.net/checkbox/+milestone/0.12.9 [16:17] If you can take a look at the unfixed bugs and propose a solution that would be appreciated. [16:17] #link https://launchpad.net/checkbox/+milestone/0.12.9 [16:17] Also keep in mind that per SRU procedure, the fixes have to be *published* (i.e. Fix Released) on Precise - so we need to take into account the time it takes to publish checkbox 0.13 on P and then backport the SRUable fixes to 0.12. [16:17] Ideally we should have a cutoff date for the 0.12.9 fixes [16:17] after which we'd publish 0.13 to P and get it tested [16:18] and then after a reasonable testing time, backport the SRUable bugs and get the SRU process rolling [16:18] o/ [16:18] o/ [16:18] hopefully I'm not missing anything here, so any ideas or proposals on the dates, or stuff I may be missing? [16:18] .. [16:19] ara go [16:19] OK, so I think the list is complete enough for a first SRU in Oneiric [16:20] So I would go for it, and try to get as many as possible in trunk [16:20] unless you guys know any other high/critical bug that we should be adding [16:20] .. [16:20] brendand your turn [16:21] strictly speaking, SRUs should be for issues which affect the stability of the application, so i'm concerned about getting some of the test wording fixes in [16:21] i guess we can try [16:21] as for dates [16:22] i think in terms of adding bugs to the list, we should aim for tomorrow (i.e. i think it's complete but just incase we missed any) [16:22] ... [16:23] o/ [16:23] roadmr, go! [16:23] hehe :) well I think we could take today to ask about the string fixes [16:23] instead of just trying to sneak it in [16:24] o/ [16:24] .. [16:24] ara, go ahead [16:24] OK, sounds good. roadmr, can you take the action of talking to the SRU team about the string changes + creating 0.12.10 milestone tomorrow? (for fixes that we might fix in the next SRU) [16:25] will do [16:25] #action roadmr to talk to the SRU team about the string changes + creating 0.12.10 milestone [16:25] ACTION: roadmr to talk to the SRU team about the string changes + creating 0.12.10 milestone [16:26] anything else on this topic? [16:26] * roadmr has nothing more [16:26] cool! let's move on :) [16:26] #topic Ubuntu Friendly next deployment -- jedimike === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Friendly next deployment -- jedimike [16:27] jedimike, can you give us an update on what we can expect on the next deployment of UF? [16:27] The next deployment of UF has been given a deadline of this thursday (17th) [16:27] we will see updated help for the participate page to make it clearer what test we require run [16:28] help for people who are having trouble finding their submissions on the site [16:28] an updated "report a problem" page which will direct people to the right place for different types of feedback [16:28] a stricter policy on skipping tests, if any test we require run is skipped, we reject the submission [16:29] o/ [16:29] on the backend, we have a faster way of finding individual submissions to help answer bugs, some stats reporting [16:29] and a way to refresh all site data without taking the site down [16:29] brendand, go ahead [16:30] about the 'no skipping' policy. it's a really wide misconception that you should uncheck tests in the test selection screen which you can't run. see e.g. : http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-friendly-usersubmitted-database-computers-work-ubuntu/ [16:31] also when helping someone at the UF session at UDS they tried to do that [16:31] o/ [16:31] ... [16:31] brendand: yes, those instructions have been corrected in the upcoming release [16:31] ara, go! [16:31] thanks! [16:32] definitely, for Precise, we should really pay attention on how we present that information [16:33] actually, we should open a bug about it and milestone it for Precise [16:33] so we keep track of it [16:33] on the client side, I mean [16:33] .. [16:33] * brendand will take that action [16:33] o/ [16:33] brendand, go! [16:34] #action brendan to open a bug about the usability bug on the selection of tests (for Ubuntu Friendly, only) and milestone it for checkbox 0.13 [16:34] ACTION: brendan to open a bug about the usability bug on the selection of tests (for Ubuntu Friendly, only) and milestone it for checkbox 0.13 [16:34] do we distinguish between not run altogether and skipped? [16:34] if so, why? [16:34] ... [16:34] o/ [16:35] no, if an entire test category is unselected, it will be reported as skipped. If an individual test is skipped, that is reported as skipped to, and we check if it's a skippable test. [16:35] ara: go [16:35] that's a good point [16:35] jedimike, if bluetooth is unselect it at the beginning, that's reported as Untested [16:35] what would happen in that case? [16:35] .. [16:36] (obviously that would work only for categories where all tests are skippable) [16:36] ara: Untested in UF speak is Skipped :) we need a translator heh [16:36] o/ [16:36] brendand, go [16:37] so maybe not too much to worry about from the technical side (deselecting bluetooth is the same as skipping every bluetooth test) [16:38] however it's still a good idea to communicate that tests should only be skipped individually and only where you really can't run them [16:38] so no change in the action items [16:38] ... [16:38] cool, thanks jedimike for the clarification and brendand for taking the action item :) [16:39] anything else on the topic? [16:40] not from me [16:40] OK, let's move on [16:40] #topic Any Other Business? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Any Other Business? [16:40] anything else? [16:41] * roadmr has nothing else :) [16:41] may I? [16:41] alourie, sure, go ahead :) [16:42] I find it strange that running Checkbox seemingly has nothing to do with Friendl [16:42] y [16:43] o/ [16:43] so I think that at least at the end, where the results are being uploaded, it should be mentioned instead of Launchpad [16:43] such as: [16:43] "provide an email address to upload results to Ubuntu Friendly" [16:43] or something like that [16:44] o/ [16:44] I agree that we need to give a better experience for UF users on the client side, but we have to make sure that we don't lose the "System Testing" goal of checkbox [16:44] sure [16:45] and what "Launchpad" has to do with it? :-) [16:45] for Precise, when building the UI, we will try to come up with something that fits both [16:45] o/ [16:45] ok [16:45] .. [16:45] brendand, go ahead [16:46] for alourie, the results in ubuntu friendly are taken from launchpad. this is just an architectural detail. [16:47] as for the original comment. i don't see the harm. [16:47] people using Checkbox for 'not Ubuntu Friendly' are already well aware of what it does [16:47] .. [16:48] cr3, your turn [16:48] brendand: sure, but why would I, as user, knwo that? [16:48] o/ [16:48] might the problem be that UF seemlingly has nothing to do with Launchpad? [16:48] * brendand is agreeing with alourie, to be clear [16:48] ^^ nevermind .. [16:49] I think Checkbox should remain agnostic of Ubuntu Friendly in order to encourage others to build services similar to UF, I don't see how Checkbox could know about every other project using results from testing in Launchpad [16:49] bladernr: thank you [16:49] .. [16:49] thanks cr3 [16:49] anything else? [16:50] cr3: but what if I, as user, run it as UF, and then have no mention of it in the tool? Doesn't it confuse a little? [16:51] alourie: perhaps there should be a UF client that would Depend on Checkbox [16:51] I'm just thinking about a clean and clear experience... [16:51] o/ [16:51] roadmr, go ahead, please [16:51] first thanks to alourie for mentioning this usability problem! [16:51] Checkbox is infinitely extensible, both good and bad, but this would be an opportunity to use this extensibility for good rather than evil [16:52] second, maybe we could have as cr3 says some way to parameterize checkbox so it shows customized information [16:52] say checkbox-gtk --for="Ubuntu Friendly" would instruct checkbox to mention UF at key points during the test run [16:52] o/ [16:52] and for instance checkbox-gtk --for="Desktop Application Testing" would show that instead [16:52] .. [16:53] cr3, your turn [16:54] roadmr: wow [16:54] roadmr: if someone in the community develops an Ubuntu Unfriendly program, which is perfectly possible since the information is freely available, should Checkbox know about that project as well? [16:54] I was afraid to offer that :-) [16:54] o/ [16:54] roadmr: why not develop an ubuntu-friendly project with its own intro_prompt plugin, for example, that would be specifically for Ubuntu Friendly? [16:55] it could even have an Ubuntu Friendly logo people could identify with... [16:55] .. [16:55] cr3: to avoid a rash of checkbox-* packages? [16:55] roadmr, go ahead [16:56] bladernr: this is a ubuntu-friendly package, not a checkbox-* package :) [16:56] (and we should be wrapping up this conversation soon) [16:56] well it's implementation discussion at this point, my idea is very simplistic but the fact is, we can probably find a way to extend checkbox to show more customized information [16:56] as unobtrusively as possible (i.e. not introducing project-specific stuff in checkbox itself) [16:57] .. [16:57] o/ [16:57] cr3, go ahead (if it is quick) :) [16:57] roadmr: indeed, if other projects could extend checkbox by adding files under a .d directory, like /etc/checkbox.d/ubuntu-friendly, which could be accessed from the checkbox-gtk command line, that would work [16:57] .. [16:59] OK, I think we have been discussed this for a long time now. I guess the summary of it is: people coming to checkbox to test for UF find no relation between the two and any solution to this problem should take care of not putting checkbox too uf specific [17:00] #action ara to file a bug about the usability bug on UF + checkbox relation [17:00] ACTION: ara to file a bug about the usability bug on UF + checkbox relation [17:00] ara: don't forget that people coming to UF find no relation with Launchpad [17:00] I agree [17:01] cr3, cool, thanks for the reminder [17:01] OK, we run out of time [17:01] so... [17:01] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [17:01] Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 17:01:30 2011 UTC. [17:01] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-14-16.02.moin.txt [17:01] thanks all for the participation!! [17:01] thanks! [17:01] great [17:01] awesome [17:02] I also think that #ubuntu-friendly should be in existence already [17:02] alourie: +1 [17:03] alourie: we normally hang out in #ubuntu-testing if you need to get in touch [17:03] roadmr: oh, good to know [17:03] :-) [17:03] what's the reason we can't get an ubuntu-friendly channel? [17:03] alourie: perhaps we should wait until we have more people like you actively participating :) [17:03] cr3: I wouldn't call me active yet [17:04] :-) [17:04] but I do have some issues with friendly that I'd like to discuss, just not right now [17:05] alourie: are you subscribed to the ubuntu-friendly mailing list? [17:05] roadmr: of course [17:05] alourie: awesome :) [17:05] that's how I knew about the meeting :-) === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [17:06] ok, thanks all [17:07] * alourie has to watch the baby [17:07] cheers [17:07] thanks alourie ! good luck === JackyAlcine is now known as graviti2011 === graviti2011 is now known as JackyAlcine [18:00] \o [18:00] hello! [18:00] #startmeeting [18:00] Meeting started Mon Nov 14 18:00:28 2011 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [18:00] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [18:00] The meeting agenda can be found at: [18:00] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [18:00] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [18:01] I'll go first [18:01] I'm on triage this week [18:01] I've got an (unfortunately massive kde) update I will be testing === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [18:02] then another update I am working on, and several more in the queue after that [18:02] I plan to work with mdeslaur and the team to help get our blueprints/work items in order [18:02] I also have some MIR audits to get to [18:02] mdeslaur: you're next [18:03] I'm currently testing my quagga update [18:03] should get published this afternoon [18:03] after that, I have some embargoed issues to look after [18:03] and need to play with the blueprints/work items [18:03] that's it for me this week [18:03] sbeattie: you're up [18:03] I'm on triage this week [18:04] err s/triage/community/ [18:04] I'm also testing an openjdk update, to hopefully publish later today [18:04] after that I've got more issues in the pipe [18:05] I think that's it for me [18:05] micahg: poke [18:05] I think micahg won't be attending the meeting [18:05] I'll go [18:05] I'm in the happy place this week [18:06] My focus this week will be on my update queue [18:06] I've got a small start on a freetype update and will then pick others after that [18:06] jjohansen: You're up [18:08] well, its more kernel work flow learning for me, and trying to finish up the environment variable filtering prototype for people to play with, and get more of the permission base rework done on apparmor [18:09] jjohansen: I have a high priority todo item to comment on your env filtering emails [18:10] jdstrand: sure /me was expecting it, but was trying to get a prototype out this weekend [18:10] * jjohansen expects mostly minor changes, like syntax etc, the how to will remain largely the same [18:11] thats it for me, so micahg your up [18:12] I think he is not here [18:12] let's move on [18:12] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [18:13] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [18:13] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [18:13] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/samhain.html [18:13] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/phpgroupware.html [18:13] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tangerine.html [18:13] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/php-htmlpurifier.html [18:13] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/lft.html [18:13] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [18:13] This week we need to have our blueprints and work items in order. Please have them done no later than Friday. We can work together to make sure this happens [18:14] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [18:15] nope! :P [18:17] Thanks mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks and jjohansen! :) [18:17] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [18:17] Meeting ended Mon Nov 14 18:17:34 2011 UTC. [18:17] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-14-18.00.moin.txt [18:17] thanks jdstrand [18:17] thanks! [18:17] thanks jdstrand [18:18] thanks jdstrand! [19:57] 4 minutes until the meeting Joeb454, bapoumba, s-fox. Anyone seen AI ? /me will get jdong [20:00] not seen AI, no [20:01] s-fox: today meeting ? [20:01] I have AI on a different IM application Joeb454 [20:01] locc meeting s-fox ? [20:01] kokoye2007, No, Forum Council meeting [20:02] thz s-fox [20:03] o/ Artificial_Intel [20:03] hello [20:03] Hey Artificial_Intel ! [20:04] I got summoned :-P [20:04] Sorry ;) [20:04] Okay, shall we start ? [20:04] okay [20:05] I'm ready [20:05] I'm here, somewhere [20:05] Haha [20:05] Who is going to chair? [20:05] you started it ;) Seriously though, I'd say you're probably the best person. No pressure [20:05] you s-fox :) [20:06] aye [20:07] * s-fox only has used Mootbot, lol [20:09] s-fox, which items do we have on the list ? [20:10] Oh meetingology is in the room. Know how to use that [20:10] :) [20:11] #startmeeting Ubuntu Forums Council Meeting [20:11] Meeting started Mon Nov 14 20:11:06 2011 UTC. The chair is s-fox. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. [20:11] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Ubuntu Forums Council Meeting Meeting | Current topic: [20:11] #meetingtopic Current Agenda is out of date === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Current Agenda is out of date Meeting | Current topic: [20:12] #topic Agenda is currently out of date === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Current Agenda is out of date Meeting | Current topic: Agenda is currently out of date [20:12] So, anyone object if we just clear it off and start afresh ? [20:12] np from me s-fox [20:12] aye for me [20:12] makes sense to me too [20:13] AFAIK the only current item is the psumi one, and that has been dealt with. It is now in the hands of the CC [20:13] Should we clear that also? [20:13] +1 [20:13] +1 [20:13] +1 [20:13] +1 [20:14] #agreed Clear old agenda items [20:14] Hmm. [20:15] Oh I know what I did wrong, silly me. Sorry guys [20:15] #vote clear old agenda items [20:15] Please vote on: clear old agenda items [20:15] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [20:15] +1 [20:15] +1 received from s-fox [20:15] +1 [20:15] +1 received from bapoumba [20:16] +1 [20:16] +1 received from Artificial_Intel [20:16] Joeb454, vote :) [20:16] +1 [20:16] +1 received from Joeb454 [20:16] sorry [20:16] #endvote [20:16] Voting ended on: clear old agenda items [20:16] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:16] Motion carried [20:16] \o/ [20:17] congrats s-fox :) [20:17] lol, thanks [20:17] anyone got any items they want to bring to the table? [20:17] scheduled meetings ? [20:17] Okay, lets talk about that :) [20:18] I think bodhi is right in wanting to alternate friday / monday meetings so every council member can attend at least every other meeting [20:18] we should set up a calendar for the FC that feeds the frige calendar [20:19] +1 [20:19] and saves the spot in #ubuntu-meeting [20:19] we were lucky no meeting was scheduled tonight [20:19] * s-fox nods [20:19] any day, except for Wednesday for me. [20:19] #vote set up FC fridge calender [20:19] Please vote on: set up FC fridge calender [20:19] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [20:19] +1 [20:19] +1 received from Joeb454 [20:19] +1 [20:19] +1 received from s-fox [20:20] alternate monday / friday works for me for now [20:20] +1 [20:20] +1 received from bapoumba [20:20] +1 [20:20] +1 received from Artificial_Intel [20:20] #endvote [20:20] Voting ended on: set up FC fridge calender [20:20] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:20] Motion carried [20:20] I mentioned on the FC list why I might not be able to do some Fridays, but I'll do what I can [20:20] especially now it's on record [20:20] #vote Alternate meeting days between friday and mondays [20:20] Please vote on: Alternate meeting days between friday and mondays [20:20] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) [20:20] +1 [20:20]