| dekarl | should the config.xml be shared between BE and FE (on the same machine)? I have a symlink from /home/mythtv to /etc/mytvh, but not from /home/<TheUserThatRunsTheFrontend>. Leaving me with an empty (but existing) file at /etc/mythtv/config.xml which the tools (e.g. mythmetadatalookup) complain about. | 08:42 |
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| dekarl | (this is on mythbuntu 11.04 with master as of some hours ago) | 08:43 |
| superm1 | dekarl: ideally they should be the same to avoid stuff like that complaining | 14:32 |
| superm1 | the mythfrontend script is supposed to make it | 14:32 |
| superm1 | and put you in the right group etc | 14:32 |
| antnash | Hi guys, I'm hoping someone can help me get my DVB-S card set up. Yesterday I could find channels with dvb-apps scan, but in the mythtv set up the signal/noise ratio would just go mental. Now I can't even find any channels with scan | 20:47 |
| dekarl | superm1: I don't see where it would do that in the wrapper (the config.xml and putting in the group part) | 21:29 |
| superm1 | dekarl: oh maybe it was just mysql.txt it's doing it for then | 21:43 |
| superm1 | in any case it should be doing it for both | 21:43 |
| dekarl | That would solve it. (at least for the --service startup, not sure about manual startup via the menu) | 21:44 |
| superm1 | tbh, i'd like to kill this concept of having a group and shared conffile | 21:45 |
| superm1 | but it's the easiest way to keep all these pieces getting along | 21:45 |
| dekarl | so just run everything under the mythtv id? | 21:45 |
| superm1 | no, not mythtv id | 21:45 |
| superm1 | at least when on the same system, all these things should have a way to discover this information | 21:46 |
| dekarl | the issue atm is that the backend gets an existing but empty file. I think no file would be ok, too | 21:46 |
| dekarl | so in the best case it provides a red herring when trying to debug "stuff" | 21:47 |
| superm1 | well for now i think then get that config.xml stuff in the wrapper | 21:47 |
| superm1 | but i want to come up with a better solution at some point | 21:48 |
| antnash | Could someone help me try and get my DVB-S card working please? It seems to register fine in dmesg, I've got demux0 dvr0 frontend0 net0 in /dev/dvb/adapter0/ | 21:54 |
| dekarl | antnash: you moved through the setup from top to bottom? | 21:56 |
| antnash | yup | 21:56 |
| antnash | whatever I do, it won't tune to channels | 21:57 |
| antnash | it won't tune to anything | 21:57 |
| dekarl | you did setup the DiSEqC tree? | 21:57 |
| antnash | LNB | 21:57 |
| dekarl | if it's just a directly connect LNB without anything in between... | 21:57 |
| antnash | huh | 21:58 |
| antnash | that's a thought | 21:58 |
| dekarl | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Setting_up_DVB-S_for_satellite | 21:58 |
| Zinn | [www.mythtv.org] User Manual:Setting up DVB-S for satellite - MythTV | 21:58 |
| antnash | They just installed a new satellite system in my building | 21:58 |
| dekarl | maybe you have "card -> 4 port switch -> LNB" if it's a shared dish | 21:58 |
| antnash | I think you may have a point | 21:59 |
| dekarl | that would be a usual setup around europe | 21:59 |
| antnash | which I guess would probably explain the signal/noise going berserk | 21:59 |
| dekarl | actually "card -> 4 port switch -> 4xLNB" with the four LNBs being the four combinations of high/low frequency and vertical/horizontal polarisation | 22:00 |
| antnash | Well this is fun | 22:02 |
| dekarl | the simplest solution might be to just ask the installer :) | 22:03 |
| antnash | so DiSEqC | 22:03 |
| antnash | Address of port switch?? | 22:03 |
| dekarl | I think "the default" will do | 22:04 |
| antnash | I'll try and get his number from site management tomorrow. Default for number of ports is 2 | 22:04 |
| dekarl | having never seen a DVB-S setup limits my experience a bit :) | 22:04 |
| dekarl | try 4 of you're not sure | 22:04 |
| dekarl | 2 is common for another common setup of for a single tv on a dish that can receive 2 satelite positions | 22:05 |
| dekarl | but that's not what you use if you supply multiple tvs | 22:05 |
| dekarl | antnash: I'm guessing at something similar to this installed at your house http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiswitch | 22:08 |
| Zinn | [en.wikipedia.org] Multiswitch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | 22:08 |
| antnash | I really hope this works | 22:08 |
| antnash | That looks likely | 22:09 |
| antnash | How the hell am I meant to set it up in myth tho? | 22:09 |
| Zinn | antnash: Please watch your language. | 22:09 |
| antnash | heck? | 22:10 |
| antnash | there we are | 22:10 |
| antnash | Zinn, Zinn, Zinn. What a prude you are. | 22:10 |
| Zinn | Hi antnash, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. | 22:10 |
| dekarl | basically thats what I described earlier, but know what it might look like in real :D | 22:10 |
| dekarl | ... but now you know what it looks like... | 22:11 |
| antnash | nope. signal/noise is still having a fit | 22:13 |
| antnash | should it say... Status: Scanning Frequency 11428000 No Lock ? | 22:13 |
| dekarl | but does it find something on a know existing transponder? | 22:13 |
| dekarl | that's ok if that is not a used transponder at the constellation the dish is pointing at | 22:14 |
| dekarl | that was 28.2°? | 22:15 |
| dekarl | it should find a channel called "radio caroline" at 11428 MHz horizontal according to lyngsat ( http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html ) | 22:16 |
| Zinn | [www.lyngsat.com] Eurobird 1 & Astra 1N/2A/2B/2D at 28.2°E - LyngSat | 22:16 |
| antnash | Yeah, I'm checking stuff from there | 22:16 |
| antnash | searching for ITV 1 atm. | 22:17 |
| antnash | The Signal/noise is going between about 25% and 85% every half second | 22:17 |
| antnash | any idea why it would be doing that, dekarl? | 22:19 |
| dekarl | hmm, maybe there is another DVB-S users from the UK over in #mythtv-users... | 22:19 |
| dekarl | it does that over here, too (DVB-C/T) | 22:19 |
| antnash | so that shouldn't be a problem? | 22:20 |
| antnash | I'm gonna try installing 10.10 | 22:21 |
| dekarl | I think not. The jumping around is expected while the card tries to get a lock | 22:21 |
| dekarl | why? | 22:21 |
| antnash | see if that helps my dvb card | 22:22 |
| dekarl | if it's working with the scan* stuff then it's likely a question of the correct DiSEqC tree | 22:22 |
| antnash | It's not working with scan any more | 22:22 |
| antnash | It was, but not now | 22:22 |
| antnash | I don't get why it would just stop working with scan | 22:25 |
| dekarl | well, I'm at a point where my limited experience with DVB-S shows :( no idea | 22:26 |
| antnash | I just don't understand | 22:30 |
| antnash | I'm getting so fed up I might just install window 7 on it | 22:42 |
| dekarl | MCE will likely ask the same questions about your DiSEqC tree | 22:43 |
| antnash | Won't be using MCE | 22:43 |
| antnash | I think it's a driver problem | 22:43 |
| antnash | which I won't have on win 7 | 22:44 |
| dekarl | your best bet is just asking someone who's seen a DVB-S setup for UK before or even better ask what exactly was installed... (moving on from the state where *scan did find something) | 22:44 |
| antnash | This is the problem | 22:44 |
| antnash | I can't get back to the point where it found stuff | 22:44 |
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