[00:37] <InHisName> Now who is having a cow over spilt milk ?
[00:43] <fosburg> how do I find out where memory is being used
[00:45] <fosburg> I'm a newbe to linux and ubuu
[00:45] <fosburg> ubuntu
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> where?
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> fosburg: you probably have a system monitor you can look at
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: ^
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> gnome-system-monitor maybe
[00:52] <fosburg> I have not seen anything in the system folder that shows this info
[00:53] <MutantTurkey> hmmm.
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> if you launch the "gnome-system-monitor" process it should work
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> (not familiar with ubuntu specifically, but it might just be Alt+F2 and type in that
[00:56] <fosburg> thanks I'll give that a try
[00:57] <GeekyAdam> of course theres also top and, my personal favorite, htop
[00:57] <GeekyAdam> right?
[00:57] <MutantTurkey> GeekyAdam: htop is the bomb dizzley
[00:57] <MutantTurkey> I don't know why anyone ships top these days.
[00:57] <MutantTurkey> It's not intuitive whatsover
[00:58] <GeekyAdam> agreed
[00:58] <MutantTurkey> I don't know how people use itl
[00:58] <GeekyAdam> one of my screen regioins is an htop session
[00:59] <MutantTurkey> GeekyAdam: I did for a while embed it onto my desktop
[00:59] <MutantTurkey> now i just use yakuake
[00:59] <MutantTurkey> and pull it up whenever
[01:00] <GeekyAdam> explain embeding into your desktop and what is yakuake?
[01:00] <MutantTurkey> GeekyAdam: I set it as my root window in my window manager
[01:00] <MutantTurkey> effectively acting as my desktop
[01:00] <MutantTurkey> and yakuake is a drop down terminal
[01:00] <MutantTurkey> on a hotkey it just "drops down" and is there
[01:00] <MutantTurkey> quite handy
[01:00] <MutantTurkey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:YaKuake_screenshot_01.png
[01:01] <MutantTurkey> they also have one for gnome if you pefer, called tilda afaik
[01:01] <GeekyAdam> do you use that for your irc? or do u use a different app for that?
[01:02] <MutantTurkey> I use konversation from TDE
[01:02] <MutantTurkey> also irssi though
[01:28] <jedijf> fosburg: how are you making out?
[01:29] <GeekyAdam> im pretty sure im putting ubuntu on my main gaming desktop at home. the machines only good for playing WoW now, and that plays [decently enough] in Wine
[01:29] <fosburg> you answered my questions--now i'm trying to understand what i'm looking at
[01:29] <MutantTurkey> :)
[01:30] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: question
[01:30] <GeekyAdam> i love me some Windows 7, but i cant deny my lust for ubuntu
[01:30] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: just ask, befor ei phrik you
[01:30] <MutantTurkey> I am trying to find a library path, I am examining the process and see it's loading kwin3_laptop.so
[01:30] <MutantTurkey> can I use ld or the like to find the hard path?
[01:31] <fosburg> Thanks to all
[01:33] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: any idea/
[01:33] <MutantTurkey> ?
[01:33] <MutantTurkey> i guess i'll just do find -iname blahblah
[01:33] <MutantTurkey> instantly found it :|
[01:33] <MutantTurkey> I am a fool.
[01:35] <jedijf> find / -name
[01:35] <jedijf> insert name
[01:36] <jedijf> find / -name part_of_name 2>/dev/null to get rid of the can't search stuff
[01:38] <jedijf> or as root if needed
[01:38] <jedijf> now to fix landlines.....phones suck
[01:42] <MutantTurkey> I was just wonderin g if Ld has some way to do it
[01:42] <MutantTurkey> probably does lul
[02:50] <GeekyAdam> speaking of landlines, i saw a tutorial online on how to use Skype with Asterisk to make skype come through a normal phoneline
[02:50] <GeekyAdam> pretty cool stuff, totally wanted to try it
[10:38] <JonathanD> morning.
[10:39] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[10:40] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[11:13] <rmg51> o/
[11:18] <JonathanD> whats up?
[11:21] <rmg51> nothing at the moment
[11:21] <JonathanD> not going grocery shopping?
[11:21] <rmg51> just trying to read the paper
[11:21] <rmg51> it's Monday silly
[11:21] <rmg51> I shop on Sat.
[11:21] <JonathanD> Ah.
[11:21] <JonathanD> I used to shop friday mornings.
[11:22] <JonathanD> But the store nearby doesn't open early enough.
[11:22] <rmg51> Acme opens at 6
[11:22] <JonathanD> 6 isn't early enough.
[11:22] <rmg51> Pathmark is 24 hours
[11:22] <JonathanD> not on weekdays, anyway.
[11:22] <JonathanD> Thats slightly more viable. If there was one here :)
[11:23] <rmg51> not sure about ShopRite
[11:23] <JonathanD> Lets see
[11:23] <JonathanD> I have acme, genuardis, walmart, bottom dollar
[11:23] <JonathanD> These are all on or near 202 in KOP
[11:24] <JonathanD> For anything else it'd be on the other side of norristown.
[11:24] <rmg51> that's why I shop on weekends
[11:25] <rmg51> weekdays are to tight with work in the way
[11:25] <JonathanD> I don't work til 9.
[11:25] <JonathanD> But Josh gets on the bus shortly after 7, and needs to be "reminded"
[11:26] <JonathanD> of silly little things like wearing pants and eating and actually going to the bus stop.
[11:27] <rmg51> I'm at work by 8
[11:27] <rmg51> to much hurry up to shop during the week
[13:05] <teddy-dbear> morning
[13:49] <InHisName> good morning,  can apt-get be used to search for what is installed ?    Like search AG for gui and turn up anything with gui in its name ?
[14:00] <jedijf> dpkg -l
[14:00] <jedijf> ellllll
[14:00] <jedijf> and grep
[16:23] <InHisName> /bin/mail is NOT installed in my system (ubuntu 11.10) what is installed by default for command line usage ?
[16:24] <InHisName> My evolution seems to removed since last update.
[16:38] <InHisName> using dpkg above I have   bsd-mailx,  buncha perl stuff,  evolution (really? said it wasn't installed), thunderbird.   Which is easiest substitute for /bin/mail in a script ?
[16:49] <Resistance> none of them.  fwiw, install postfix and use that to send mail.
[16:49] <Resistance> :P
[16:50] <InHisName> I tried /usr/bin/mailx as subst for /bin/mail and left rest of script unchanged.  Seems to not complain anymore.   Not sure if mail is really going, not critical yet.
[17:39] <fosburg> Type 1 fonts; Question, Adobe type one fonts are for windows and MAC, what OS for type 1 fonts is used for Linux--Ubuntu?
[17:47] <fosburg> Will Adobe Type 1 (MAC) fonts work with a Linux OS?
[17:50] <Resistance> fosburg:  #ubuntu
[17:52] <fosburg> thanks--I got a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[18:04] <waltman> InHisName: If it's not really going out, you might take a look at the nullmailer package.
[18:05] <waltman> Or if you've got a MTA installed on that box, try calling sendmail directly from the script.
[18:11] <InHisName> what does MTA stand for ?
[18:20] <waltman> Mail Transfer Agent, something like exim or postfix.
[18:20]  * Resistance recommends postfix
[18:21] <waltman> But if all you want to do is forward all the mail from this box somewhere else (e.g. your ISP's smtp server) then you can just use nullmailer.
[19:08] <MutantTurkey> which one of you bastards hacked my vps? :p
[19:08] <MutantTurkey> because someone did and I am freaking out X_X
[19:09] <Resistance> MutantTurkey:  was it LulzSec ?
[19:09] <Resistance> :p
[19:09] <MutantTurkey> Resistance: no.
[19:10] <MutantTurkey> but I found the files they were using to bruteforce I think
[19:10] <MutantTurkey> it was in /lib/.41/
[19:10] <Resistance> you might consider running rkhunter
[19:10] <Resistance> to look for additional vulnerabilities
[19:11] <MutantTurkey> seems to be collecting irc information in the Undernet server as well as brute forcing IPs's
[19:12] <Resistance> kill it, then sudo rm -rf it, and then rkhunter
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> I have it killed
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> removed
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> I also removed my whole home directory
[19:12] <jedijf> check crontab
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> which contained passwords for gmail and IRC
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> changed them.
[19:12]  * jedijf is betting opyum team
[19:12] <MutantTurkey> see the tar.gz
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> n
[19:13] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: don't use standard ssh ports and disable root login
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> http://mutantturkey.com/weird.tar.gz
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> take a look
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: root login was disabled , which is weird because they are logged in as wroot over ssh.
[19:13] <MutantTurkey> look over that.
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> I am thinking they may have left some information there.
[19:14] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: no time today, but netstat -plant and see how many irc connections you have
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> okay
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> tcp        0      0 boxi:3389               dsl88-247-34606.tt:3565 ESTABLISHED
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> tcp        0      0 boxi:3389               bb26a130.virtua.co:3200 ESTABLISHED
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> tcp        0    256 boxi:ssh                remote.mc3.edu:9432     ESTABLISHED
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> tcp        0      0 boxi:34496              verne.freenode.net:ircd ESTABLISHED
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> tcp        0      0 boxi:ssh                remote.mc3.edu:33401    ESTABLISHED
[19:14] <MutantTurkey> tcp        0      0 boxi:www                remote.mc3.edu:48731    TIME_WAIT
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> sorry :x thats all though
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> 3389 is my remote desktop protocol
[19:15] <jedijf> yes
[19:15] <jedijf> rdp
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> that looks okay right?
[19:15] <jedijf> yeah
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> does rdp present security treat?
[19:15] <MutantTurkey> I dont know what that dsl88-247 is though...
[19:16] <jedijf> any open port, moreso the standard ports can/will be automagically scanned and bruted
[19:16] <jedijf> check auth.log(s) for giggles
[19:17] <Resistance> isnt RDP remote desktop?
[19:17] <jedijf> gotta love the internet
[19:17] <jedijf> Resistance: yep
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> auth.log
[19:17] <MutantTurkey> ?
[19:18] <MutantTurkey> I have their IP
[19:18] <MutantTurkey> it's in the log
[19:19] <Resistance> iptables -A input -s <ip> -j DROP
[19:19] <Resistance> :P
[19:19] <Resistance> (or in my case, iptables -A AUTODROP -s <ip> -j DROP
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> wait
[19:20] <jedijf> cat /var/log/auth.log | grep ssh
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> seems to be an array of IP's
[19:20] <MutantTurkey> bruteforcing users and pw's
[19:20] <Resistance> ewwwww
[19:20] <Resistance> :P
[19:21] <MutantTurkey> also I have a few log files authlog.1 2 3 .gz etc
[19:21] <jedijf> any good guesses mutantspecific or the standards, mysql blahblah blah
[19:22] <MutantTurkey> standards
[19:23] <MutantTurkey> matt seems to be going on for a few days
[19:23] <MutantTurkey> maybe a week or two before they got in
[19:23] <jedijf> then you are not being targeted...like arch cal mc3 etc
[19:23] <MutantTurkey> right
[19:23] <jedijf> if that's logged, it was me ;)
[19:23] <MutantTurkey> gotta talk to my VPS guys
[19:23] <Resistance> any of you applied for ubuntu membership, and happen to know what the odds are someone is approved?
[19:23]  * Resistance is applying for Ubuntu membership
[19:23] <MutantTurkey> Ubuntu Memebership? what is this 1984?
[19:24] <MutantTurkey> :P
[19:24]  * Resistance hands MutantTurkey the time warp unit, which is set for 1984
[19:24] <jedijf> Resistance: not really based on odds; more based on work, consistent, in the Ubuntu community/world
[19:24] <Resistance> have fun back there :P
[19:24] <Resistance> i see.
[19:25]  * jedijf was recently approved
[19:25] <Resistance> ooh congrats.
[19:25] <jedijf> thanks
[19:25] <Resistance> i'm in the queue to be considered by this thursday's meeting of the regional board or w/e it is
[19:25] <jedijf> it was suggested that team contact should be a member
[19:25] <Resistance> indeed
[19:27] <Resistance> ha, i found your approval xD
[19:27]  * Resistance looked in the reports :P
[19:28] <Resistance> what... what's this about you having ZERO launchpad karma
[19:28]  * Resistance slaps jedijf
[19:28] <MutantTurkey> launchpadd
[19:29] <MutantTurkey> Did you know trinitydesktop actually has deployed their own Launchpad service for our build system?
[19:29] <jedijf> Resistance: it expires
[19:29] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: seems su and grep I cant even use
[19:29] <jedijf> i don't actively pursue bug stuff
[19:29] <MutantTurkey> I think they were messed with
[19:29] <Resistance> jedijf:  neither do i :/
[19:29] <Resistance> i target mostly spec tracking
[19:29] <Resistance> :P
[19:30] <jedijf> Resistance: didn't check your karma
[19:30] <jedijf> saw the number, that was enough
[19:30] <Resistance> Answer Tracker 	81
[19:30] <Resistance> Bazaar Branches 	38
[19:30] <Resistance> Bug Management 	150
[19:30] <Resistance> Soyuz 	136
[19:30] <Resistance> Specification Tracking 	3554
[19:30] <Resistance> Total karma: 3959
[19:30] <Resistance> :P
[19:31] <MutantTurkey> http://mutantturkey.com/auth.log
[19:32] <MutantTurkey> hmmm
[19:33] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: good learning experience; what did you learn?
[19:39] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: FUCK the police.
[19:39] <MutantTurkey> oh sorry wrong lesson.
[19:39] <Resistance> lol
[19:40] <jedijf> this is not Compton, that language is not excused
[19:40] <jedijf> Easy E forever
[19:40] <jedijf> in the right time and place
[19:40]  * jedijf prefers Dopeman
[19:41]  * MutantTurkey throws change in the jar
[19:44] <jedijf> we take bills only as we aspire to be the 1%
[19:45] <jedijf> and to have more wealth than Greece and Italy combined
[19:45] <MutantTurkey> breaking news, #ubuntu-us-pa is bailed out by the world bank
[19:51] <MutantTurkey> breaking news, #ubuntu-us-pa GDP surpasses most african countries
[21:38] <GeekyAdam> MutantTurkey: wow someone really wants your root password
[21:38] <GeekyAdam> yet another reason I like ubuntu, you cant log in as root
[21:38] <GeekyAdam> via ssh
[21:38]  * GeekyAdam hopes he's correct, having never fully researched the subject.
[21:39] <Resistance> GeekyAdam:  you can actually allow root logins from SSH
[21:39] <Resistance> although its not advised ;P
[21:39] <GeekyAdam> Resistance: but its turned off by default, correct?
[21:39] <Resistance> mhm
[21:39] <GeekyAdam> mines off
[21:39] <GeekyAdam> right
[21:40] <GeekyAdam> i find that the more "general" irc #channels i idle in, the more activity my auth.log gets
[21:40] <GeekyAdam> like #ubuntu and ##linux
[21:40] <GeekyAdam> etc
[21:40] <GeekyAdam> yet another reason to keep your irssi/dev machine on a seperate network than your production/www machines
[21:46] <JonathanD> Everyone should have an irssi machine.
[21:46] <GeekyAdam> MutantTurkey: just added you on G+
[21:47] <JonathanD> or two.
[21:47] <GeekyAdam> heading home, might be on later
[21:49] <MutantTurkey> GeekyAdam: cool cool