[00:32] <benlebovitz> hi out there... does anyone have a PreSonus AudioBox?  I'm trying to get one to work right now on 11.10
[00:32] <benlebovitz> 64 bit...
[00:57] <Lehthanis> hey all!
[00:57] <Lehthanis>  got a gnome themes question
[00:58] <Lehthanis> I can't figure out how to install them lol
[00:58] <Lehthanis> and I think its because I might be downloading the wrong things
[00:58] <Lehthanis> I keep seeing gtk and metacity...and I'm not sure what that refers to
[02:33] <Lehthanis> Is it ok to upgrade to 11.10 through upgrade manager or do I need to do a complete reinstall of Ubuntu Studio to get that upgrade?
[12:52] <Mckbrother> Hey, I've got a question
[12:54] <holstein> Mckbrother: well... i have no idea why im up and my computer was still on, but just ask
[12:56] <Mckbrother> Haha ok :D I want to install UbuntuStudio, is there a possibility to install UbuntuStudio in the terminal of the normal Ubuntu? I've running Ubuntu on my notebook and don't want to remove it first. Is it possible or not?
[12:56] <holstein> Mckbrother: ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[12:56] <holstein> pretty much
[12:57] <holstein> so, you dont need to install ubuntustudio
[12:57] <holstein> you can open up a package manager and search ubuntustudio
[12:57] <holstein> from the terminal... you can run
[12:57] <holstein> apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[12:57] <holstein> there are some meta packages that pull in various sets of packages
[12:57] <holstein> !vanilla
[12:59] <Mckbrother> Ok. Thannk. I will try it :)
[12:59] <holstein> personally, i would just pull in ubuntustudio-audio ubuntustudio-audio-plugins ubuntustudio-graphics ubuntustudio-video and ubuntustudio-menu
[12:59] <holstein> but... you dont need to use these metas even
[12:59] <holstein> you can just install what you like... JACK, ardour, hydrogen... whatever
[13:00] <Mckbrother> Ok.
[13:00] <Mckbrother> I will try it and if there are any questions I will come back.
[13:00] <Mckbrother> Thanks very much :)
[14:09] <Mckbrother> Hello again.
[14:10] <Mckbrother> I've installed UbuntuStudio on my notebook but there is XFCE now as desktop enviroment. How do I make my UbuntuStudio looking like the UbuntuStudio on the Screenshots at http://ubuntustudio.org
[14:10] <Mckbrother> ?
[14:17] <astraljava> Mckbrother: Well, you can't. GNOME 2 isn't in the repos anymore, so either you will have to use an older release, or deal with the change.
[14:17] <Mckbrother> Hm.
[14:18] <Mckbrother> Is there a tutorial for using an older release, or could you explain me how I can do so?
[14:18] <astraljava> Lucid (10.04) is still supported for 1½ years, and 10.10 almost a year still.
[14:18] <Mckbrother> Ok
[14:18] <Mckbrother> Oh sorry :D
[14:18] <astraljava> It's like installing any other distro.
[14:18] <astraljava> But you can't downgrade, sorry.
[14:18] <Mckbrother> How ?
[14:19] <Mckbrother> How do I downgrade? I dont want to install it again..
[14:21] <astraljava> I just said you can't.
[14:21] <astraljava> Debian doesn't provide such a functionality.
[14:22] <Mckbrother> Oh sorry, I read 'you can' :D
[14:22] <Mckbrother> Ok so in  10.04 it looks like the screenshots ?
[14:22] <astraljava> Almost, but there's an additional t there, that makes all the difference.
[14:23] <Mckbrother> Haha
[14:23] <astraljava> Possibly. I'm not sure which release those are from.
[14:23] <Mckbrother> Ok
[14:24] <astraljava> But up until 11.04 we used GNOME 2.
[14:24] <astraljava> Just switched to XFCE on 11.10, cause we wanted to gain experience for 12.04, as it's an LTS release.
[14:25] <Mckbrother> So I can use 11.04 ?
[14:25] <astraljava> Yes, you can. Sorry, I accidentally left it out there in the list earlier.
[14:25] <Mckbrother> Hm. I think that design is an important part for an audio, video and graphic distribution.
[14:25] <astraljava> It will be supported until October of 2012.
[14:26] <Mckbrother> Ok.
[14:26] <astraljava> Design? Which design?
[14:26] <Mckbrother> No design in general. Sorry for my bad english, I'm german :D
[14:27] <Mckbrother> I mean the appearance
[14:27] <Mckbrother> .
[14:28] <astraljava> Ok. Nevermind about english. I'm a finn.
[14:29] <Mckbrother> :) Like Linus :)
[14:29] <astraljava> Yes, well you can have a chat about the appearance on ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com, and offer your views and opinions.
[14:29] <astraljava> The current release isn't tuned appearance-wise at all, so there's a lot to be done.
[14:31] <Mckbrother> Ok. In one year, I will begin to learn 'information science technician specialising in application development'
[14:31] <Mckbrother> Which programming language do I need to know if I want to support the developing team of UbuntuStudio ?
[14:34] <astraljava> Well, we're mostly not dealing with any in particular. Shell scripting is essential in maintaining a distro. But most used programming languages include Python, C and C++. Perl wouldn't hurt, some apps are written in C# (using Mono), and obviously some are Java apps.
[14:35] <astraljava> If you wanna get into application development, you should look into the development frameworks; GTK+ and Qt.
[14:35] <Mckbrother> Sounds good, I will learn C, C# and C++ in my education. At the moment I learn Java at school.
[14:35] <Mckbrother> Ok
[14:39] <Mckbrother> So thanks a lot :) Maybe we develop together in a few years :D
[14:39] <astraljava> Looking forward to it.
[14:39] <Mckbrother> Bye
[14:39] <astraljava> Bye now.
[16:53] <jfb86> hello
[17:11] <holstein> jfb86: o/
[17:40] <jfb86> holstein: yo ! :)
[17:47] <pitchoilcan> ITM
[17:48] <pitchoilcan> is webgui stable on ubuntustudio 11?
[17:53] <jfb86> yes it is
[17:53] <jfb86> i'm on 11.04 with no pbs
[18:07] <holstein> pitchoilcan: 11.04?
[18:07] <holstein> 11.10?
[18:08] <pitchoilcan> correct
[18:08] <holstein> theres not reason to expect an unrelated package like that to behave any differently in ubuntustudio than ubuntu
[18:08] <holstein> pitchoilcan: so, 11.04 or 11.10?
[18:08] <holstein> or both?
[18:09] <pitchoilcan> 11,04
[18:09] <holstein> eitherway, it'll be the same in ubuntustudio as ubuntu
[18:10] <holstein> we dont have anything to do with that package (we = ubuntustudio)
[18:10] <pitchoilcan> I installed the package from the synaptic repo but I don't know how to link the install directory to my web server root
[18:12] <holstein> pitchoilcan: try connecting via the local machine
[18:13] <holstein> to make sure its not a connection issue
[18:13] <pitchoilcan> I had the same problem with ampache and fixed it with : sudo ln -s /usr/share/ampache/www/ /var/www/ampache
[18:13] <pitchoilcan>  do I have to do something simular with webgui?
[18:13] <holstein> i am not familiar with installing webgui
[18:13] <holstein> i have only used it with turnkey linux machines
[18:14] <holstein> http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
[18:14] <holstein> ^^ those are ubuntu based, and run live... you could fire one up and poke around
[18:14] <holstein> again... try accessing it locally to make sure its not something with the network
[18:14] <holstein> not sure why you need it on a box running X though
[18:17] <holstein> pitchoilcan: i would look for a config file as well
[18:17] <holstein> make sure you are trying the proper port
[18:18] <holstein> maybe http://localhost:443/ ??
[18:18] <holstein> not sure
[18:25] <pitchoilcan> thanks nonetheless
[18:26] <pitchoilcan> I guess I'll have to make do with drupal and ampache
[18:26] <pitchoilcan> or maybe wordpress
[18:27] <pitchoilcan> http://www.molecularsciences.org/articles/installing_mahara_on_ubuntu_linux
[18:32] <holstein> ?
[18:33] <holstein> maybe we are not communicating about the same thing
[18:33] <holstein> i would suggest downloading one of those virtual appliances
[18:33] <holstein> webgui is *not* a CMS
[20:35] <tlm> Any chance for Mate desktop in 12.04?
[21:03] <astraljava> tlm: What's that?
[21:27] <tlm> astraljava it's a fork of Gnome2, theres a ppa for it right now
[21:43] <astraljava> tlm: Well, I suppose it could get in, but I doubt we will take it into official use.
[22:16] <Mckbrother> Hello.
[22:17] <Mckbrother> I've installed UbuntuStudio 11.04 now, and now, I want to make my login screen looking like this one: http://ubuntustudio.org/files/US3.png
[22:18] <Mckbrother> I found this Topic in a forum, the background image is now set, but how do I change the rest? http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ubuntu%20studio%20login%20screen%20theme&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CGMQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1604399&ei=qZPBTr-yLdDNsgbp3KHMAw&usg=AFQjCNFirjEl_k6Kv_jDnh-c2o7xS5oHww&sig2=VfOt4-lf4nwT233UU3m7mA&cad=rja
[22:19] <Mckbrother> Sorry, this link is better: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604399
[22:38] <altice> Mckbrother: install ubuntu-tweak
[22:39] <altice> makes changing the login screen a snap
[22:39] <Mckbrother> ok
[22:39] <Mckbrother> Simply install it with apt-get ?
[22:39] <altice> yea
[22:39] <altice> should be in the repo
[22:39] <altice> I may be spelling it wrong tho, h/o
[22:39] <altice> no, I was right, just as I spelled it
[22:40] <Mckbrother> Hm.
[22:41] <Mckbrother> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak ?
[22:41] <altice> yea
[22:41] <Mckbrother> Is not possible
[22:41] <altice> does it not show up in the repo?
[22:41] <altice> might need to add the ppa then
[22:41] <Mckbrother> Could not be found.
[22:41] <altice> google ubuntu-tweak
[22:41] <altice> add the ppa
[22:41] <Mckbrother> ok
[22:41] <altice> then should show up in the repo
[22:45] <Mckbrother> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/downloads/
[22:45] <Mckbrother> I try it like here
[22:45] <Mckbrother> with
[22:45] <Mckbrother>  add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa
[22:45] <altice> yep
[22:45] <altice> now 'sudo apti-get update'
[22:45] <altice> apt-get
[22:45] <altice> sry
[22:46] <Mckbrother> ok
[22:46] <Mckbrother> ah
[22:46] <Mckbrother> sorry I'm new..
[22:46] <altice> no worries
[22:46] <altice> I've only been using linux for a year, learning curve is steep and quick
[22:47] <Mckbrother> Now he found it :)
[22:47] <altice> excellent
[22:47] <Mckbrother> So i run the program
[22:47] <altice> yea, that tweak GUI allows you to do a lot of things all in one prog
[22:47] <altice> yes
[22:47] <Mckbrother> ok
[22:48] <Mckbrother> and with this I can make it looking like the picture?
[22:48] <altice> you have to have the background picture first
[22:48] <altice> but yes
[22:48] <altice> it is under the "startup" section, and then "login settings" - all this inside ubuntu-tweak
[22:49] <Mckbrother> ok
[22:49] <altice> then click 'unlock' on the bottom right
[22:49] <altice> and then you can change the login background
[22:50] <Mckbrother> i did.
[22:50] <Mckbrother> There was the picture with the brushes already.
[22:50] <altice> okay
[22:51] <altice> did I mis-understand your question?
[22:51] <Mckbrother> Hm.
[22:52] <Mckbrother> I want the long Bar for logging in
[22:52] <altice> did you try this yet? "sudo cp /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop /usr/share/gdm/autostart/LoginWindow"
[22:52] <Mckbrother> Yes.
[22:52] <Mckbrother> I only could set the background image
[22:53] <altice> let me play with it a sec
[22:53] <altice> brb
[22:53] <Mckbrother> ok
[22:59] <Mckbrother> Is there somebody else who could help me?
[23:01] <altice> okay
[23:01] <altice> Mckbrother
[23:01] <altice> I see what they are talking about
[23:01] <altice> it looks like you need to have the "theme" installed first before doing that
[23:01] <altice> so find a clear/transparent theme
[23:01] <Mckbrother> which theme
[23:01] <Mckbrother> ok
[23:01] <Mckbrother> where culd I find it ?
[23:03] <benlebovitz_> hi!  Does anyone out there know how to configure a PreSonus AudioBox 22vsl?
[23:04] <benlebovitz_> usb audio box...
[23:07] <altice> okay
[23:08] <altice> follow this Mckbrother
[23:08] <altice> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333683
[23:08] <Mckbrother> Ok, I will read it.
[23:08] <altice> you don't need to get the theme
[23:09] <Mckbrother> Ok+
[23:13] <Mckbrother> hm
[23:14] <Mckbrother> the directory /usr/share/images/xsplash don't exists
[23:14] <Mckbrother> should I create it ?
[23:17] <Mckbrother> Or what should I do now ?
[23:20] <Mckbrother> Sorry, my internet connection got lost.
[23:23] <Mckbrother> altice already here?
[23:27] <altice> hey yea sry
[23:28] <altice> cooking dinner
[23:28] <Mckbrother> oh sorry
[23:28] <altice> umm hmm
[23:28] <altice> xsplash
[23:28] <altice> I'm assuming that is expecting that you have images already there
[23:28] <altice> there may be packages you can load to get more desktop themes, customization stuff, etc.
[23:28] <altice> brb
[23:30] <Mckbrother> ok
[23:35] <altice> reading further, what does it expect to use the "xslpashes" folder for?
[23:35] <altice> that's what you need to determine
[23:36] <Mckbrother> hm. i should copy the background image in this folder
[23:36] <altice> if that's where it expects the images your looking for then it's important, if you do nothing with that folder later on, then idk? try skipping
[23:36] <altice> okay
[23:47] <Mckbrother> Ok, sorry but I really have to sleep. Here in germany, it are 15 minutes to 1am and I write me geography exams in a few hours. Thanks very much.
[23:48] <Mckbrother> Are you also tomorrow in the irc, altice?
[23:54] <Mckbrother> So, I will not shut down my notebook, write, if you want, I will answer tomorrow ;) Thanks alot, see you soon :)
[23:59] <altice> okay, sorry, yea I can be on here tomorrow
[23:59] <altice> got busy, can't put full attention to this, I'll read the tutorial tomorrow and be ready for questions after