KaZeR_W | hi there | 08:39 |
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KaZeR_W | i'd need some help with preseed : i can't get it to honor some directive (e.g. do not ask for keyboard configuration) | 08:39 |
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mpt | ev, did you ever see this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-installer/2011-October/000859.html | 15:03 |
ev | weird, no | 15:05 |
ev | bdmurray: I don't believe there is. If apt-clone crashes, you'll surely see it in the logs (though it'll end up against the apt-clone package anyway. | 15:15 |
ev | b | 15:15 |
ev | but unless you run ubiquity in debug mode, you wont see what autopartitioning option you've selected | 15:15 |
bdmurray | ev: what about "Oct 28 17:10:37 ubuntu AptDaemon: INFO: UpgradeSystem() was called with safe mode: 1"? | 15:42 |
ev | oh, nice | 15:43 |
bdmurray | So that seems reliable? | 15:44 |
ev | looks it | 15:44 |
bdmurray | cool, thanks | 15:47 |
bdmurray | Do you know if mint modifies their install process significantly? Should ubiquity bugs regarding mint just be moved to the linuxmint project? | 19:06 |
ogra_ | i think thats what i see colin do regulary with them | 19:12 |
CarlFK | I want to post a statement in a bug report, which may be disputed and overruled, but it will be a starting point. | 19:22 |
CarlFK | should packages installed into the target effect the install process? | 19:22 |
CarlFK | in this case: I use a proxy: d-i mirror/http/proxy string http://chris:8000/ | 19:22 |
CarlFK | and then ask for a proxy manager? to be installed: d-i pkgsel/include string squid-deb-proxy-client | 19:23 |
CarlFK | which errors when it tries to run in chroot /target | 19:23 |
CarlFK | and ends up clobbering http://chris:8000/ | 19:23 |
CarlFK | I think it comes down to: should the installer rely on /target being functional? | 19:25 |
cjwatson | bdmurray: they should definitely be moved off ubuntu/ubiquity. historically I've just closed them as invalid with an explanation, but now that we have distrosourcepackage->product reassignment, I agree we should do that | 19:38 |
cjwatson | CarlFK: the installer should rely on /target being functional. I think your previous bug is good enough, though; this is a one-off issue with squid-deb-proxy-client, and I don't think it's worth trying to solve generically - we'll just figure out how to deal with that issue | 19:38 |
bdmurray | cjwatson: okay, I'll set up the bug bot to do that then but perhaps we should actually modify apport somehow | 19:39 |
CarlFK | cjwatson: thanks. | 19:40 |
cjwatson | possibly - although I think it is linuxmint's responsibility to sort this out, but maybe we should figure out how to get in touch with them | 19:40 |
cjwatson | just as it was and remains our responsibility and not Debian's to stop our bug reports going to Debian | 19:40 |
bdmurray | I see your point but I just ran across a ubiquity bug report from Commodore Vision OS and I don't think we can rely on every derived distribution to do the right thing here | 19:41 |
* ogra_ saw that one too and was pondering | 19:42 | |
ogra_ | i guess thats one to just close | 19:43 |
cjwatson | bdmurray: yeah, there's a principle/practicality line to draw | 19:43 |
cjwatson | I suspect we should attempt to do both - contact the big ones, work around the small ones (and the big ones who ignore us) | 19:44 |
cjwatson | after all it's presumably in their interests to hear about bugs installing their system | 19:44 |
bdmurray | okay that make sense, I'll poke around our bugs and see which other distros they come from | 19:46 |
superm1 | bdmurray: it might be worthwhile to ask whoever works on linux mint's deviations in the installer to idle in here and to subscribe to ubiquity bugs | 20:35 |
superm1 | might be able to get them to push the things they change up, or at least understand what they're doing differently and why | 20:36 |
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