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KaZeR_Whi there08:39
KaZeR_Wi'd need some help with preseed :  i can't get it to honor some directive (e.g. do not ask for keyboard configuration)08:39
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mptev, did you ever see this? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-installer/2011-October/000859.html15:03
evweird, no15:05
evbdmurray: I don't believe there is.  If apt-clone crashes, you'll surely see it in the logs (though it'll end up against the apt-clone package anyway.15:15
evb15:15
evbut unless you run ubiquity in debug mode, you wont see what autopartitioning option you've selected15:15
bdmurrayev: what about "Oct 28 17:10:37 ubuntu AptDaemon: INFO: UpgradeSystem() was called with safe mode: 1"?15:42
evoh, nice15:43
bdmurraySo that seems reliable?15:44
evlooks it15:44
bdmurraycool, thanks15:47
bdmurrayDo you know if mint modifies their install process significantly?  Should ubiquity bugs regarding mint just be moved to the linuxmint project?19:06
ogra_i think thats what i see colin do regulary with them19:12
CarlFKI want to post a statement in a bug report, which may be disputed and overruled, but it will be a starting point.19:22
CarlFKshould packages installed into the target effect the install process?19:22
CarlFKin this case: I use a proxy: d-i mirror/http/proxy string http://chris:8000/19:22
CarlFKand then ask for a proxy manager? to be installed: d-i pkgsel/include string squid-deb-proxy-client19:23
CarlFKwhich errors when it tries to run in chroot /target19:23
CarlFKand ends up clobbering  http://chris:8000/19:23
CarlFKI think it comes down to: should the installer rely on /target being functional?19:25
cjwatsonbdmurray: they should definitely be moved off ubuntu/ubiquity.  historically I've just closed them as invalid with an explanation, but now that we have distrosourcepackage->product reassignment, I agree we should do that19:38
cjwatsonCarlFK: the installer should rely on /target being functional.  I think your previous bug is good enough, though; this is a one-off issue with squid-deb-proxy-client, and I don't think it's worth trying to solve generically - we'll just figure out how to deal with that issue19:38
bdmurraycjwatson: okay, I'll set up the bug bot to do that then but perhaps we should actually modify apport somehow19:39
CarlFKcjwatson: thanks.19:40
cjwatsonpossibly - although I think it is linuxmint's responsibility to sort this out, but maybe we should figure out how to get in touch with them19:40
cjwatsonjust as it was and remains our responsibility and not Debian's to stop our bug reports going to Debian19:40
bdmurrayI see your point but I just ran across a ubiquity bug report from Commodore Vision OS and I don't think we can rely on every derived distribution to do the right thing here19:41
* ogra_ saw that one too and was pondering 19:42
ogra_i guess thats one to just close19:43
cjwatsonbdmurray: yeah, there's a principle/practicality line to draw19:43
cjwatsonI suspect we should attempt to do both - contact the big ones, work around the small ones (and the big ones who ignore us)19:44
cjwatsonafter all it's presumably in their interests to hear about bugs installing their system19:44
bdmurrayokay that make sense, I'll poke around our bugs and see which other distros they come from19:46
superm1bdmurray: it might be worthwhile to ask whoever works on linux mint's deviations in the installer to idle in here and to subscribe to ubiquity bugs20:35
superm1might be able to get them to push the things they change up, or at least understand what they're doing differently and why20:36

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