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philipballew_Darkwing, will you be around hillcrest tomorrow ?00:45
pleia2nhaines: not sure if it's too late, but paul sladen had me open a bug for the pangolin SVG (started asking around when you brought it up the other day)00:47
pleia2https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-branding/+bug/89049700:47
pleia2he's going to dig through the network share at the office to see if he can find it :)00:47
nhainespleia2: It's too late for the talk but not for the general presentation!00:59
nhainesAlso, Paul Sladen is awesome.01:00
CoreyHello, downtown San Francisco.03:15
pleia2hi Corey03:23
Coreypleia2: You have a neat city.03:23
CoreyAside from the stabbed-by-a-hobo risk factor being uncomfortably high.03:23
pleia2thanks, it depends on the neighborhood and time of day03:24
pleia2I walk alone downtown at night pretty often, mostly I have to worry more about being hit by a car in a crosswalk or bicycle on the sidewalk03:25
Coreypleia2: Yeah, I'm in the flatiron building this week.03:26
pleia2Corey: ah, I walked by there about an hour ago03:27
pleia2it's pretty safe down there03:28
pleia2I live just a few blocks away03:28
locodir-userhi guys03:33
locodir-userany one that can help me03:33
locodir-useri can install nothing in ubuntu 11.1003:33
Coreypleia2: I'm being mostly snarky.  I live in LA. :-)03:34
CoreySo compared to that, SF is fine.03:34
pleia2locodir-user: what are you using to install, and do you get errors?03:35
pleia2Corey: haha ok :) some people are just scared of cities in general (I used to be!)03:35
locodir-userask me for repair, and after says that items can not be installed or removed until th package catalog is repaired03:36
pleia2locodir-user: can you paste exactly what it says at http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give us the link?03:37
Coreypleia2: One of these days I'll have to get you to sign my GPG key.  I'm still kicking myself for going all the way to Chicago to meet nhandler and forgetting to have him do that. :-p03:41
pleia2haha, doh03:42
CoreyAt least my wife found him amusing. :-p03:42
pleia2I still haven't met nhandler03:42
CoreyOh, it's a treat.03:42
CoreyScary smart.03:42
pleia2he's one of the few ubuntu people I work with a lot and haven't met03:42
pleia2yeah03:42
CoreyUnfortunately he's not coming to the Freenode Staff gathering next month. :-(03:42
pleia2I think he's too busy to travel much03:43
pleia2oh, there is a bay area lug meeting tomorrow night if you're around and interested http://www.balug.org/03:43
Coreypleia2: Hmm.03:44
pleia2doing a regex workshop, it's walkable from sutter and market03:44
Coreypleia2: You've convinced me.03:44
CoreyTossing it into the calendar.03:45
CoreyHow do I recognize y'all?03:45
locodir-userthis is exactly what it says: items can not be installed or removed until th package catalog is repaired03:45
pleia2Corey: the chinese restaurant knows us, so just tell them you're with the linux people, we hang out near the bar from 6:30-703:46
akkA regex workshop is such a good idea for a lug meeting.03:46
pleia2then we pay $13 for family style chinese dinner together at 7PM, then presentation03:46
CoreyAh, people who hang out by the bar.  I'm home!03:47
CoreyWhat's the presumed regexp knowledge going into this?03:47
pleia2http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-announce-balug.org/2011-November/000178.html03:47
pleia2^^ the announcement03:47
pleia2it's all very casual, I doubt any is required to feel welcome03:48
akkI bet most people there won't know much about regexps.03:48
pleia2they even included the wikipedia link to regular expressions in the announcement ;)03:48
akkIt's still considered pretty esoteric/ubergeeky in most circles.03:48
* pleia2 rsvps03:48
akkThere's also a web-mapping social with lightning talks tomorrow night at google, for people farther south.03:49
akk(via the webmap social meetup group)03:49
pleia2locodir-user: http://askubuntu.com/questions/67594/unable-to-repair-packages-in-ubuntu-software-center03:51
locodir-userW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bisigi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found  W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bisigi/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.04:21
locodir-userpleia204:22
locodir-userthat appear on the terminal04:22
pleia2you're using a PPA that isn't active anymore, you should remove it04:23
locodir-userhow can i find it???04:24
pleia2how did you add it in the first place?04:25
locodir-useri don't know04:25
pleia2the software center should have a section somewhere in the options for you to see other software, you'll want to look there04:26
pleia2(I'm not on a system with a current version of the software center, so I'm not sure exactly)04:26
locodir-userthere is any way to undo installations?04:28
pleia2if you install something through the software center you can always uninstall it04:29
locodir-userbut with this error how can i uninstall it?04:29
locodir-useri can't04:29
pleia2you can't find the "other software" section?04:29
locodir-userThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  default-jre-headless: Depends: openjdk-6-jre-headless (>= 6b14) but it is not installed icedtea-6-jre-cacao: Depends: openjdk-6-jre-headless (= 6b23~pre10-0ubuntu5) but it is not installed                      Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.6.1-9ubuntu3 is installed                      Depends: zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) but 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu3 is installed icedtea-6-jre04:31
locodir-useri found this04:31
pleia2you seem to have a lot of problems happening at once, you should probably try to solve them one at a time04:32
locodir-userhow can i uninstall one thing at the time?04:34
pleia2first, find the "other software" section in the software center so you can remove the older ppa repositories that are not working04:35
pleia2created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale10x05:35
seidoshi everybody.  i got this link from the crash space mailing list, thought some may be interested in signing:  https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/propose-congress-governance-accountability-and-ethics-act-gaea-enforce-ethics-provisions-public/HkY9F7lH?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl06:05
* philipballew reads seidos link06:36
nhainespleia2: "Some people, when confronted with a problem, think 'I know, I'll use regular expressions.'  Now they have two problems."15:53
philipballewDarkwing, you around?18:27
pleia2philipballew: ubuntu hour on for this evening? (haven't updated twitter yet)18:28
philipballewpleia2, well I have not been able to get a hold of anyone else about it yet18:29
akkSpeaking of which, is there a mountain view one this thursday?18:29
nhainesHmm, that reminds me... I'd better announce UH in Lake Forest for Thursday.18:30
nhainesOnly two more.  :)18:30
pleia2philipballew: will you be there?18:30
philipballewpleia2, I can try if i eed to. It seems like it might not be a smart thing to go there on my own and be the phil show for the third time18:31
pleia2philipballew: I don't see a problem with it, nhaines and I run our respective ubuntu hours ourselves18:32
pleia2having a team is nice, but not required :)18:32
philipballewpleia2, well yeah, but you have people show up to yours18:32
nhainesLast time I did, but the time before that it was just me for an hour.18:32
pleia2one of the risks of ubuntu hours is that no one shows up, the important thing is that they're regular and if people want to show up they can18:33
pleia2if you don't want to do it that's fine, but it's not actually a problem as far as the team or ubuntu hours are concerned18:33
pleia2right now you have one "might be attending" registrant for tonight18:34
pleia2http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1203/detail/18:34
philipballewtrue. If it is only me that is going to be running it, then i'll be changing the location to be closer to me. I texted kevin an hour ago to see if he is around tonight18:34
philipballewalso, dave had it for every 2 weeks. I need to make it once a month18:35
pleia2yeah, I can only do once a month too18:35
nhainesDo a month leadout on that if you can.18:35
nhainesLike pleia2 says, the only way that the UH can ever grow is if it's regular and reliable.18:36
nhainesOnce a month is *really* tempting for me.  But I do twice a month because I'm worried by the time a month passes I'll forget.  ;)18:36
philipballewexactly, and it seems that I can easily make it so, however I might just change the place soon so I can have more control over it if possible18:37
philipballewand be able to manage things when the place is by where i live18:37
philipballewinstead of a hour bike ride18:38
nhainesRight, but give as much advance notice as is possible.18:38
philipballewyeah, thats what I am going to do. I think it will change after the holidays.18:39
philipballewunless dave is going to take over managing it again.18:39
philipballewbut he seems busy lately18:40
nhainesA new year is a perfect time for a new schedule!18:41
nhainesSometimes the "Step down considerately" bit of the CoC is harder than it sounds.18:41
philipballewill be moving it back to the place nhaines visited probably.18:41
philipballewbut i am not sure if that is to far out of the way18:44
jtatumspeaking of.. need to setup thursday's UH18:44
philipballewpleia2, Ill tech iheartubuntu and get him to tweet if later if probably. thank you. If nothing happens, ill try to get a hold of Darkwing soon18:48
nhainesIf that's the place you can get to, then that's the best place to hold it.18:48
jyoWoah, Unity 2D is pretty nice.18:49
nhainesjyo: it's improved immensely.18:52
pleia2nhaines: oh! progress https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-branding/+bug/89049719:14
pleia2an .eps and .pdf (I haven't had a chance to look at them carefully)19:14
nhainesBoo, eps.  :)19:16
pleia2indeed19:17
pleia2but better than psd :)19:18
nhainesYes.  :)  Okay, they look like a good start.19:18
nhainesAnd perfect for throwing in an ODP file.  I'll try to do an SVG and attach it to the bug report tonight, but I'm kinda busy this week.  :/19:19
pleia2nhaines: they uploaded an svg!19:59
pleia2and added the link to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Precise :)19:59
philipballewpleia2, I have not herd from dave, and being that this is his ubuntu hour. I am pretty sure he is not going to have this thing happening tonight :(20:27
pleia2philipballew: ok, can you delete the loco directory event and make an announcement?20:28
pleia2there is one person who said they might come (and you are registered as attending)20:29
pleia2sending a message directly to the person who might be coming is probably a good idea too (if they don't have an email address in launchpad you can use the contact form in lp)20:30
philipballewI'll look into it. who is this person?20:30
pleia2http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1203/detail/20:30
pleia2under "Maybe Attending (1)"20:30
philipballewI can email him and see if he is truly going to be coming and if he is I can go probably20:31
philipballewi dont have a problem going to the hour. its just that it is daves our and he has not said anything about it actually happening20:32
pleia2have you emailed him?20:32
pleia2thanks for handling this20:32
philipballewI have and he did not respond. also texted and pinged him here20:33
philipballewill email him again20:33
philipballewalso, the additional guest does not have an email on launchpad20:35
philipballewits all good pleia2 . I am happy to try to sort all it out20:35
pleia2philipballew: click on the "contact this user" on the upper right in launchpad20:36
pleia2it sends an email to them20:36
philipballewIll invite him and head out tonight. maybe he can come and make i a fun hour20:36
philipballewI emailed him reminding him about the hour pleia220:41
philipballewso he might email me back saying he can come20:41
pleia2thanks :)20:42
philipballewpleia2, alright, I hope this issue can be worked out eventually20:49
philipballewToday were learning about wiki's in my management class to help plan projects. I was the only one who had experience with it20:58
bkerensaLet us be precise about the pangolin :P20:58
philipballewpleia2, But if the might be attending says no he will not, then I will probably not go as dave has said nothing about it21:07
nhainesphilipballew: tiddlywiki is a fun little thing.21:13
philipballewI just currently have no way to get there. I could take the bus. maybe i'll do that21:24
philipballewi crashed on my bake last week and still need to get it fixed21:26
BotenAnnadoes anyone use tumblr23:04
BotenAnnaor know of any good ubuntu/oss tumblrs23:04
philipballewpleia2, you around.23:43
philipballewThe San Diego Ubuntu is on!23:43
jtatumwoohoo23:43
philipballewand I'm gonna bring a friend!23:44
pleia2philipballew: great! shall @ubuntu_us_ca tweet it? :)23:45
philipballewI dont see why not!23:45
pleia2k, doing so now23:45
* philipballew prepares to retweet23:45
nhainesphilipballew: congrats!23:46
philipballewafter several calls dave answered and were all good nhaines23:47
philipballewhe's busy lately23:50
philipballewthanks pleia223:59

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