[02:19] <dobey> black_puppydog: just ask your question; if anyone is around or sees it and knows the answer, they will provide it :)
[02:21] <black_puppydog> ok, i am syncing my android camshots over u1 to both win and ubuntu
[02:21] <black_puppydog> but on windows the syncdeamon seems to "forget" some shots (pretty random, couldn't find out when this happens)
[02:22] <black_puppydog> so i want to make it rescan the server contents and pull all missing files.
[02:22] <black_puppydog> is there any trigger for something like this?
[02:23] <black_puppydog> just if you're wondering: i also asked this on askubuntu: http://t.co/TfO5j6kl which would be a mor public place to answer this
[02:27] <dobey> you could tell it to disconnect, wait a few seconds, and then tell it to connect again
[02:27] <dobey> reconnecting means it will have to do a server rescan again
[02:28] <dobey> if it still doesn't pull the files, you've probably encountered a bug, and it would be nice if you could file it :)
[02:36] <black_puppydog> ok, reconnecting didn't do the trick (tried that before but also tried it again now to be sure)
[02:37] <black_puppydog> so what would you need from me as input for the bug?
[02:37] <black_puppydog> logfiles? where would those be?
[02:37] <dobey> yes; i'm not sure where they are on windows
[02:37] <dobey> if you file a bug though, someone will respond and ask for them, and tell you where they are :)
[02:42] <black_puppydog> hmmm, found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/878267
[02:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 878267 in ubuntuone-client "Ubunto One for windows doesn´t sync all files (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[02:42] <black_puppydog> looks _pretty_ much like my problem
[02:43] <black_puppydog> but I don't have an upload problem, the files how up on the web front end...
[02:43] <black_puppydog> I think I'll try and reopen this one...
[03:12] <dobey> black_puppydog: ok. someone will reply to that tomorrow then. it's a bit late tonight :)
[03:12] <black_puppydog> dobey: yeah, here too...
[03:13] <black_puppydog> thanks then
[03:13] <dobey> subscribe to the bug if you haven't, and watch your e-mail :)
[09:06] <mandel> morning all!
[09:49] <JamesTait> Good morning, one and all! :)
[10:07] <duanedesign> morning JamesTait
[10:09] <JamesTait> Hey duanedesign! :)
[10:09] <JamesTait> duanedesign: Isn't it insane o'clock where you are now? Or do you not live where I think you live?
[10:11] <duanedesign> JamesTait:  it is 4:11a.m
[10:12] <JamesTait> duanedesign: So, yes, insane o'clock. ;)  I always througth 4am was a myth.
[10:12] <duanedesign> :)
[10:12] <duanedesign> yeah it is about an hour or two before when i usually get up
[10:14] <JamesTait> I usually get up somewhere between 7am and 7:30. Except at the weekends.
[10:15] <JamesTait> Then I might not get up until 9, but it's usually before.
[10:16] <duanedesign> I got used to getting up early to get more time with my colleagues in europe
[10:17] <JamesTait> duanedesign: Yeah, time zones suck. :(
[10:17]  * mandel coffee brake
[10:29] <Chipaca> mandel: also, ribs break
[10:29] <Chipaca> mandel: does it hurt if you laugh, also?
[10:44] <mandel> Chipaca, yeah.. I'm stupid, they were crack a few days ago and decided to play in the rugby match
[10:44] <mandel> Chipaca, thankfully you guys did not know I was this stupid before you hired me hehehe
[10:45]  * mandel back
[10:57] <Chipaca> mandel: we had some inkling
[10:59] <mandel> Chipaca, I guess that the size of my forhead and my  brow ridge are good indications hehhe
[11:02] <andreas__> hi there
[11:02] <Chipaca> mandel: recall the first uds we met you, you had slept 4 hours in the last month or somehting
[11:03] <Chipaca> andreas__: hey
[11:03] <mandel> Chipaca, yeah.. stupidity was palpable.. I'm working on that and I have nessita to help :)
[11:03] <mandel> andreas__, hi
[11:04] <andreas__> Does anybody know where to find the ubuntuone music store plugin for rhythmbox in 11.10??
[11:05] <Chipaca> andreas__: it's not there
[11:05] <Chipaca> andreas__: there is no u1ms rhythmbox plugin in 11.10, sorry
[11:05] <Chipaca> andreas__: (we didn't make time to port it to gtk3, if you're interested in the technical mumbo jumbo)
[11:06] <Chipaca> gtk3 + twisted == bad news, for now
[11:06] <Chipaca> anyway
[11:07] <Chipaca> andreas__: sorry
[11:07]  * Chipaca apologizes too much
[11:08] <andreas__> Chipaca, ok, thx.
[11:15] <gatox> hi
[11:15] <mandel> gatox, buenas :)
[11:19] <gatox> mandel, como va? esaas costillas?
[11:21] <mandel> gatox, they are ok, they hav been cracked for 2 weeks already, the problem was that we had an important rugby game and the coach asked me if I could play, and I said yes :P
[11:21] <mandel> now they are a little worse, bu with painkiller you get used to it :)
[11:22] <gatox> mandel, jeje you are crazy
[11:23] <Chipaca> mandel: that's what she said
[11:23]  * Chipaca runs
[11:23] <mandel> hahahaha
[11:23] <mandel> Chipaca, do not make me laugh, please..
[11:23]  * Chipaca only said it to make mandel laugh
[11:23]  * Chipaca runs faster
[11:24] <mandel> Chipaca, you are just making it worse.. please..
[11:24] <mandel> hehe
[11:24] <nessita> hello everyone!
[11:25] <gatox> nessita, hi
[11:26] <Chipaca> mandel: see? I'm so evil, I can be evil and make you laugh at the same time. That's why I'm the boss, clearly.
[11:27] <mandel> nessita, buenas..
[11:27] <nessita> hola mandel, gatox
[11:27] <mandel> Chipaca, you just have to practice your evil laugh :P
[11:29] <Chipaca> mandel: we were walking in the woods after dark with the boys, and it seems my evil laugh is sufficiently evil already.
[11:29] <mandel> hahahahaha
[11:29] <mandel> I hate you..
[11:29]  * Chipaca bows
[11:53] <gatox> nessita, i fix share links! :D
[11:54] <gatox> fixed*
[11:56] <nessita> gatox: yey!
[11:56] <nessita> gatox: what did you use?
[11:56] <gatox> nessita, i'm happy! jeje
[11:57] <gatox> nessita, i use pythoncom to make really explicity the creation of the link...... it's more low level than pywin CreateShortcut method
[11:58] <nessita> gatox: show me the method! /me wants to learn
[11:58] <gatox> nessita, i tested with a simple case.... now i'm going to test it with folders..... but it should work..... let me give you the paste
[11:59] <nessita> gatox: ack
[12:00] <gatox> nessita, http://paste.ubuntu.com/739105/
[12:00] <gatox> nessita, it's a testing code!
[12:00] <gatox> don't panic! :P
[12:00] <nessita> je
[12:01] <nessita> gatox: I don't wanna be a party pooper, but where are you using unicode there?
[12:01] <gatox> home
[12:01] <gatox> special_folders
[12:01] <nessita> ah
[12:02] <nessita> and your home is the chinese one?
[12:02] <gatox> i'm creating the link in c:\users\myweirdusername\My Shortcut.lnk
[12:02] <nessita> japanese
[12:02] <gatox> yeo
[12:02] <gatox> yep
[12:02] <gatox> that is the TargetPath in the current implementation
[12:02] <gatox> and that was what failing so fa
[12:02] <gatox> far
[12:02] <gatox> sorry...... bad typing
[12:02] <nessita> gatox: nice, can you please if that still works if you prepend to "path" the long path prefix? (\\\\?\\)
[12:03] <gatox> nessita, let me test it now creating a folder link from a unicode location to a unicode location and then i'll test that.....
[12:03]  * gatox testing...
[12:04] <nessita> thanks!
[12:06] <gatox> nessita, it's failing for the case when the source is located in a unicode location..... but that should be fixeable too
[12:07] <gatox> yep... almost fixed!! :D
[12:08] <nessita> :-)
[12:14] <mandel> gatox, it works with \\?\ really? awesome!
[12:15] <gatox> mandel, didn't test that yet
[12:15] <mandel> gatox, oh, I understood otherwise :(
[12:15] <gatox> mandel, i'm just trying to create the links in unicode folders and from unicode folders
[12:15] <gatox> at this mooment
[12:31] <mandel> nessita, gatox today we have the standup later, right?
[12:31] <gatox> mandel, yes..... that's what i understand
[12:32] <gatox> at 12 art
[12:32] <mandel> nessita, gatox do we have the right to change that in the calendar?
[12:32] <nessita> mandel: I'm in a call
[12:46] <ralsina> good morning!
[12:48] <gatox> ralsina, hi
[12:52] <ralsina> nessita: ping about the SRU catchup call?
[12:52] <nessita> ralsina: in mumble
[12:52] <ralsina> nessita: ok, ust saw the email. Going!
[12:52] <nessita> you're welcome to join us
[13:03] <mandel> does anyone know if lp is having issues, I'm getting some connection issues when trying to do a merge..
[13:03] <mandel> yet branching works.. weird
[13:17] <gatox> need to do some important errands.... brb!
[13:17]  * mandel early lunch so I'm on time for stnadup
[13:21] <alecu> ralsina, nessita, mandel: hi all: I've started feeling like crap since yesterday evening; took some pills and today I'm better but my eyes still hurt some, so I'm taking a day off.
[13:21] <ralsina> alecu: take care, man
[13:21] <ralsina> alecu: did you load it in c-admin?
[13:22] <mandel> alecu, mejorate!
[13:22] <alecu> ralsina, nessita, mandel: you can contact me at my cellphone if you need anything.
[13:22] <alecu> ralsina, I'll load it right now, thanks for the reminder.
[13:22] <ralsina> alecu: no need, really
[13:23] <mandel> alecu, I would not even think about calling you on you cellphone, take a rest :)
[13:23] <alecu> mandel, oh, and twitter will work too, since my phone chirps when somebody mentions me :P
[13:24] <mandel> alecu, twitte is just for couting gin&tonics, that is all :)
[13:24] <alecu> :-)
[13:26] <alecu> ralsina, I've entered the day in canonicaladmin, but it does not show up on my list of days. In fact, the third page of the list is broken :-(
[13:26] <alecu> ralsina, would you mind taking a look to see if it shows on your page?
[13:27] <webm0nk3y> mandel: there is an LP issue right now
[13:27] <nessita> alecu: get some rest!
[13:31] <mandel> webm0nk3y, yep, I'm in #launchpad too, so is a perfect time for me t go and have some lunch
[13:31]  * mandel lunch
[13:36] <j0nr> hey folks
[13:36] <j0nr> u
[13:38] <j0nr> i made some changes to some existing music files (changed id3 tags) but the changes dont seem to have propogated to the android music app...
[13:39] <nessita> ralsina: the desktop team meeting is scheduled for Wed at 14UTC... I think we need to change that...
[13:39] <ralsina> yes, we should move it to thursday
[13:40] <nessita> ralsina: Thursday 15UTC?
[13:41] <ralsina> WTF, why is standup twice in the calendar now?
[13:41] <ralsina> nessita: do you see standup at 3PM?
[13:42] <nessita> ralsina: looking
[13:42] <ralsina> nessita: and also at noon. If you do, I will delete the noon one
[13:43] <nessita> ralsina: wait
[13:43] <nessita> ralsina: we're having it at 12ART
[13:43] <nessita> so the noon one is the correct one
[13:43] <ralsina> oh, right, dan timezones :-/
[13:43] <nessita> ralsina: delete the 3pm one
[13:44] <ralsina> I overcorrected the 15UTC we agreed yesterday :-(
[13:45] <nessita> ralsina: you're marked as 'not attending' to the 12pm art standup
[13:45] <nessita> ralsina: can you re-answer saying yes? :-)
[13:45] <ralsina> nessita: of course
[13:46] <ralsina> nessita: looks like it conflicts with something. I am trying to fix it
[13:46] <nessita> ralsina: your management call?
[13:46] <ralsina> nessita: yes
[13:47] <ralsina> because it conflicts one day, it markes me unavailable every day. Darn.
[13:47] <ralsina> And now it logged me out.
[13:48] <ralsina> Ok, I can't say I am going to be there, but I will be there anyway
[13:49] <nessita> ralsina: user replied to bug #889556 (FYI in case you still have tons of emails)
[13:49] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 889556 in ubuntuone-client "I can't unistall Ubuntu One in Windows XP (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/889556
[13:50] <ralsina> nessita: thanks, saw it, not sure what to say yet
[13:50] <ralsina> nessita: basically, "works here" but that's not a good answer
[13:52] <nessita> ralsina: will the installer.log give youy any info
[13:52] <nessita> ?
[13:53] <ralsina> I'll ask for it, just in case, I am trying to see if the uninstaller has a logfile
[13:54] <ralsina> nessita: uninstaller doesn't leave a log :-/
[13:56] <ralsina> nessita: I don't think we make it for a windows release on wednesday. I will be lucky to have the binaries today, which means less than a day to test it. I will move it to thursday/friday
[13:57] <nessita> ralsina: ack
[14:12] <popey> Uhm. I'm having a mild panic
[14:13] <popey> I have two machines on the same network next to eachother
[14:13] <popey> one is saying 1.5GiB of 45GiB and file sync is 'up to date'
[14:13] <popey> the other says 23GiB of 45GiB and is constantly updating
[14:15] <popey> alan@wopr:~$ u1sdtool --current-transfers
[14:15] <popey> Current uploads: 0
[14:15] <popey> Current downloads: 0
[14:15] <webm0nk3y> popey: what is saying 'up to date'?
[14:15] <popey> but the gui says 'sync in progress'
[14:15] <popey> the gui
[14:15] <webm0nk3y> popey: what does u1sdtool -s say?
[14:16] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/739202/
[14:17] <webm0nk3y> popey: also u1sdtool --waiting
[14:17] <popey> alan@wopr:~$ u1sdtool --waiting |wc -l
[14:17] <popey> 7172
[14:17] <webm0nk3y> popey: ouch
[14:17] <webm0nk3y> so it has stuff to do
[14:17] <popey> heh
[14:17] <popey> quite a bit of stuff ☺
[14:17] <popey> ok, I'll leave it alone then
[14:18] <popey> but current-transfers is 0
[14:18] <webm0nk3y> probably metadata
[14:19] <popey> btw u1sdtool doesn't like being piped to head
[14:19] <popey> or indeed more, and then told to stop
[14:21] <popey> thanks for the help
[14:21] <popey> I'd love to have a gui that gave me lots of info about what's going on
[14:21] <popey> at the moment I do "watch -d 'u1sdtool --current-transfers'" :D
[14:22] <Neldogz> Anyone have trouble with the Ubuntu One contacts within Thunderbird? I cant add any contacts to this address book. There are no errors, nothing. I followed the directions with Ubuntu One and installed the required plug-ins
[14:27] <dobey> popey: install magicicada
[14:28] <popey> ooooooo
[14:32] <popey> thanks dobey
[14:37] <Neldogz> are we supposed to be using Hedera to sync thunderbird contacts to Ubuntu One? https://launchpad.net/hedera
[14:38] <dobey> no
[14:39] <dobey> Neldogz: thunderbird-couchdb; though there are sync-related issues being worked on server side.
[14:40] <Neldogz> hi dobey: i have installed the package already.. I also read that there were some server side issues. Should i be able to at least create a contact within the Ubuntu One address book from Thunderbird?
[14:40] <Neldogz> Thunderbird does not give the option to create a contact within this address book, shouldnt it store it locally and then upload it when the servers come back online?
[14:41] <dobey> Neldogz: do you have thunderbird-couchdb installed, or just evolution-couchdb?
[14:41] <dobey> and how did you install it?
[14:42] <Neldogz> i have thunderbird-couchdb installed and an ubuntu one account properly created. I received a pop up which asked me to install a contact sync package on the services menu of Ubuntu One
[14:42] <Neldogz> i went ahead and installed it, after poking around and doing some research because I couldnt get it to work i removed thunderbird-couchdb and reinstalled it via the terminal
[14:43] <dobey> Neldogz: did you have thunderbird already running when you did that? and if so, have you restarted thunderbird since then?
[14:43] <Neldogz> I might of had it running, but i did restart thunderbird, checked to make sure the add in was enabled and also restarted
[14:44] <Neldogz> I would think i should at the very least be able to create a contact within the ubuntu one address book within thunderbird. I can see the address book but when i go to create a contact, Thunderbird does not give me the option to create one there
[14:45] <Neldogz> is there  a way to reinstall this connecting piece into thunderbird?
[14:45] <dobey> you should be able to to create a contact, yes; i doubt reinstalling would help
[14:46] <dobey> rye, duanedesign: ^^ can you guys help Neldogz please?
[14:46] <duanedesign> hello Neldogz
[14:47] <Neldogz> hi duanedesign, i appreciate all the help you guys are giving me here. I have been trying to figure this out for the last 2 days on my own but no luck
[14:48] <duanedesign> Neldogz: did you copy any contacts over from your other addressbook?
[14:49] <Neldogz> I cant copy any contacts to the ubuntu one address book. The ubuntu one docs state that i should be able to select my contacts I wish to copy over and while holding ctrl, drag them over. When i perform the dragging function I cannot select the Ubuntu One address book eventhough i can see it
[14:50] <Neldogz> i can drag to other address books such as from the Personal Address book to the Personal
[14:50] <Neldogz> Also, if i try to create a contact within the Ubuntu One address book, thunderbird does not give me the option to create it there eventhough i can see it
[14:51] <Neldogz> its as if it is not properly registering within thunderbird
[14:52] <Neldogz> also, i just want to note that Ubuntu One file sync is working perfectly fine
[14:52] <duanedesign> ok
[14:53] <Neldogz> as a test yesterday i went ahead and installed Evolution and evolution-couchdb .. I also could not get this to work. i received an error saying error connecting or error opening ... I don't have the exact error unfortunately. I since then uninstalled evolution
[14:54] <duanedesign> Neldogz: could you try this address in your browser. Replacing username with your username in your computer. file:///home/YOURUSERNAME/.local/share/desktop-couch/couchdb.html
[14:54] <Neldogz> thanks duanedesign, i am able to see that page
[14:55] <Neldogz> it says, you are about to log into the site localhost with the username:
[14:56] <Neldogz> ok im there
[14:56] <duanedesign> yep. It is the couchdb interface
[14:56] <Neldogz> i see the interface
[14:56] <duanedesign> it just tells us that couch is running
[14:56] <Neldogz> ok
[14:56] <duanedesign> i am trying to see if i can reproduce this..
[14:57] <duanedesign> I have not set up contact yet in thunderbird
[14:57] <ralsina_> dobey, mandel, nessita, gatox: standup in 3 minutes
[14:57] <duanedesign> so one minute
[14:57] <gatox> ralsina, ack
[14:57] <dobey> ralsina_: no alecu?
[14:57] <Neldogz> no problem take your time, i really appreciate your help
[14:57] <mandel> ok
[14:57] <ralsina_> dobey: alecu is sick today
[14:58] <dobey> oh :(
[15:00] <gatox> me
[15:00] <nessita> me
[15:00] <mandel> me
[15:01] <dobey> me
[15:01] <nessita> ralsina_: you me-ing?
[15:01] <ralsina_> me
[15:01] <nessita> gatox: go!
[15:01] <gatox> DONE:
[15:01] <gatox> Some improves in create shares link, unicode problems fixed.
[15:01] <gatox> TODO:
[15:01] <gatox> Keep working on create shares link, win32com doesn't include clsid_FolderShortcut, so i'm trying with the str id or something like that to make it work.
[15:01] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:01] <gatox> No
[15:01] <gatox> nessita, go
[15:01] <nessita> DONE: teach leads call, made stable-3-0 branches for almost everything, bug #890410, bug #890277, bug #890349
[15:01] <nessita> TODO: SRU call with Cheepaca and raalsina, bug #890416, teaching duties
[15:01] <nessita> BLOCKED: nopes
[15:01] <nessita> NEXT: mandel
[15:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 890410 in ubuntuone-control-panel/trunk (and 2 other projects) "Ubuntu One Control Panel login request has typo in Windows (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890410
[15:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 890277 in ubuntuone-storage-protocol/trunk (and 5 other projects) "Test are failing due to ubuntuone.devtools.testing.txcheck.SuperNotCalled (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890277
[15:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 890349 in ubuntu-sso-client/trunk (and 2 other projects) "Nightlies build failure on precise (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890349
[15:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 890416 in ubuntu-sso-client/trunk (and 2 other projects) "Unify executable for starting the service (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890416
[15:02] <mandel> DONE: Looked at the implementation for a test that uses proxy settings for bug 884963. Looked into getting squid on Windows for that implementation and how we could have diff proxy settings for the windows tests. Fixed MPs but had creds issues with lp, I've been told the issue if fixed now.
[15:02] <mandel> TODO: More work on bug 884963. Some paperwork (Canonical admin). Get a Vista Box ready for proxy testing too.
[15:02] <mandel> BLOCKED: noDONE: Looked at the implementation for a test that uses proxy settings for bug 884963. Looked into getting squid on Windows for that implementation and how we could have diff proxy settings for the windows tests. Fixed MPs but had creds issues with lp, I've been told the issue if fixed now.
[15:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 884963 in ubuntuone-dev-tools (and 1 other project) "proxy integration tests (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/884963
[15:02] <mandel> TODO: More work on bug 884963. Some paperwork (Canonical admin). Get a Vista Box ready for proxy testing too.
[15:02] <mandel> BLOCKED: no
[15:02] <mandel> dobey, go
[15:02] <dobey> there's a tech leads call? glad i'm not a tech lead :)
[15:02] <dobey> λ DONE: client SRU upload, bug #791927 SRU upload, stable branchification
[15:02] <dobey> λ TODO: rb v. banshee (2011), tarmac config update, releases, fork pyxdg
[15:02] <dobey> λ BLCK: No.
[15:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 791927 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "apport hook in source package not installed (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/791927
[15:03] <dobey> ralsina_: arriba las manas
[15:03] <ralsina_> DONE: tech leads call, call with nessita and chipaca, created/updated all positions in taleo, mail catchup, started cleaning windows build branch for merging, TODO: canonicaladmin, RTs for windows release (moving it to friday), talk with mandel about integrating with jenkins, random bits
[15:03] <ralsina_> BLOCKED: feeling an hour shortage
[15:03] <nessita> dobey: hey, did you see we did not get approval for the SRU patch? we were asked to have the fix released to P first
[15:03] <dobey> nessita: yes i saw
[15:04] <nessita> dobey: can we do a release from stable-3-0?
[15:04] <nessita> to P, that is
[15:04] <dobey> uh oh
[15:04] <dobey> bah
[15:04] <nessita> any comments, anyone?
[15:04] <dobey> precise is broken
[15:04] <nessita> dobey: ...
[15:04] <nessita> dobey: @more
[15:04] <dobey>  intltool : Depends: libxml-parser-perl but it is not going to be installed
[15:04] <nessita> I think we can call it a eom then
[15:05] <mandel> ralsina_, I have never work with jenkins, should we talk about it before I get into the code again (just got back from walking the dog)
[15:05] <dobey> nessita: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/2.0.0-0ubuntu3
[15:05] <ralsina_> mandel: mostly I want us to talk to sidnei and make sure we can actually do things right
[15:05] <ralsina_> mandel: and not work in ways that are useless with jenkins
[15:06] <mandel> ralsina_, ok, then lets talk about it asap since I'm looking at the proxy test case
[15:06] <ralsina_> mandel: is in 1 hour ok?
[15:06] <mandel> ralsina_, sure, can you ping me or something?
[15:06] <nessita> dobey: nice!
[15:06] <ralsina_> mandel: will do
[15:06] <mandel> ralsina_, I'll set an alarm just in case :)
[15:06] <dobey> nessita: i saw the e-mail and uploaded the package to precise too
[15:07] <dobey> but fail :(
[15:07] <nessita> dobey: :-/ can we talk to someone?
[15:07] <dobey> maybe :)
[15:07] <mandel> ralsina_, at the next :30 sounds good?
[15:08] <dobey> 10:05 < cjwatson> precise/amd64 will be very broken for about the next hour
[15:08] <dobey> nessita: ^^ looks like someone broke perl, and it's being worked on already
[15:08] <nessita> heh
[15:09] <nessita> dobey: thanks
[15:09] <dobey> sure
[15:12] <duanedesign> Neldogz: does your thunderbird look like this? http://ubuntuone.com/3tBENyYeXurBfIqhzc6wOT
[15:17] <mandel> nessita, https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-control-panel/auto-update-functions/+merge/80237 is updated following your remarks
[15:17] <Neldogz> duanedesign, i am missing the ubuntu one entry with the book symbol, i have the one with the globe
[15:17] <nessita> mandel: ack, I also owe you the windows installer one
[15:17] <mandel> nessita, no problem, step by step :)
[15:20] <duanedesign> Neldogz: I must admit i do not know the difference between the two
[15:21] <duanedesign> Neldogz: i can not drag/copy to the globe icon but I can the book
[15:21] <Neldogz> i didnt even realize there was anything missing haha!
[15:21] <Neldogz> im trying to search on how to add it but no luck
[15:21] <duanedesign> anyone know the difference in the addressbooks in Thunderbird?
[15:23] <Neldogz> duanedesign: i was able to create one manually by simply going to File / new / address book and gave it the name Ubuntu One
[15:23] <Neldogz> although i highly doubt this will tie into ubuntu one at all
[15:23] <rye> duanedesign, what difference?
[15:23] <rye> duanedesign, some of them are native to tb. some are brought in by e-d-s plugin
[15:24] <j0nr> i made some changes to some existing music files (changed id3 tags) but the changes dont seem to have propogated to the android music app...
[15:26] <Neldogz> duanedesign: you did however recreate the initial problem that I encountered which was the inability to drag contacts to the Ubuntu One address book within Thunderbird as documented here https://one.ubuntu.com/help/tutorial/install-and-setup-contacts-sync/
[15:26] <Neldogz> I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[15:26] <mandel> dobey, how do you feel if in ubutuone-dev-tools I make testcase a pacakage and add a dbus.py module and proxy module? Ofcourse keeping the old DBusTestCase import working
[15:27] <mandel> dobey, I'd like to have the ProxyTestCase and DBusTestace is diff locations, just to be clean
[15:28] <Neldogz> although it does state the "Ubuntu One Address book" i dont know if thunderbird  or the documentation considers the entries with the globe an address book or if it something else
[15:28] <dobey> mandel: hrmm. not sure, will have to look at that code again and see how it is organized currently
[15:28] <mandel> dobey, if you take a look I'd really appreciate it :)
[15:36] <duanedesign> rye: see the screenshot http://ubuntuone.com/3tBENyYeXurBfIqhzc6wOT
[15:37] <duanedesign> Ubuntu One created two address books? One with a globe icon and one with a book
[15:37] <rye> duanedesign, the first Ubuntu One addressbook is not actually Ubuntu One, it is an addressbook created in Thunderbird
[15:37] <rye> duanedesign, the one with the globe is the couchdb one
[15:37] <rye> e-d-s
[15:38] <duanedesign> hmmm
[15:38] <duanedesign> rye: that is the one we are unable to add contacts too
[15:41] <rye> duanedesign, oneiric, right? If no contacts can be added, then there is something wrong with 1) evolution-couchdb, 2) desktopcouch-service, 3) couchdb process
[15:41] <rye> duanedesign, is Neldogz the one who has this issue?
[15:41] <duanedesign> right oneiric
[15:41] <Neldogz> yes
[15:41] <duanedesign> yes Neldogz
[15:41] <duanedesign> and me
[15:41] <duanedesign> :)
[15:42] <Neldogz> alright !! Im not the only one!!
[15:42] <Neldogz> =)
[15:42] <duanedesign> I had not set up Thunderbird yeet so i did it real quick to better help Neldogz. I ended up with a similar issue
[15:45] <rye> duanedesign, Neldogz could you please run "desktopcouch-admin.py" -l with script from http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/desktopcouch-admin.py ?
[15:47] <ralsina> mandel, question about bug #855369
[15:47] <ubot4> ralsina: Error: Bug #855369 not found.
[15:47] <ralsina> mandel: which is the "autoupdate on vista" bug
[15:47] <mandel> ralsina, not found :P
[15:47] <mandel> ralsina, ok :)
[15:47] <duanedesign> rye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/739273/
[15:47] <mandel> ralsina, tell me
[15:48] <ralsina> mandel: what DLL should not be in the same folder as the autoupdater?
[15:48] <ralsina> mandel: because when we install, there is no DLL in the same folder at all :-/
[15:49] <mandel> ralsina, ok let me look
[15:49] <rye> duanedesign, well, there is no contacts database
[15:49] <mandel> ralsina, in our dist folder, can you find  MPR.dll
[15:50] <ralsina> mandel: ok, can you confirm that if update.ini is moved from dist to ubuntuone and run autoupdate from that folder it works?
[15:51] <Neldogz> rye, duanedesign: Same results on this side
[15:51] <mandel> ralsina, you have to move the .exe and the .ini out of dist, let ir be the root dir or a diff folder
[15:51] <rye> duanedesign, interesting, now I don't seem to have the entries
[15:51] <duanedesign> :\
[15:51] <mandel> ralsina, the annoying thins is that you also have to change the code that locates the .exe to be executed from the utils module
[15:51] <ralsina> the exe is in ubuntuone, the ini is in dist. I think we are running it with working directory dist. So if moving it outside fixes it, it's easy ;-)
[15:52] <rye> Cannot open book: Could not create DesktopcouchSession object
[15:53] <mandel> ralsina, yes, we have to executed outside dist because windows is stupid and loads those dlls first
[15:54] <mandel> ralsina, if i remmber correctly there was a sploit using that at some point
[15:54] <ralsina> mandel: ok then.
[15:54] <Neldogz> rye, duanedesign: i guess the thunderbird plugin should be creating this database for us on couchdb but somehow this is not occuring
[15:54] <ralsina> rye: do you have the bug number for the "uninstall.exe is not there" bug
[15:55] <gatox> lunch! brb
[15:56] <ralsina> mandel: that bug is assigned to you. Do you think you can have a fix for thursday?
[15:56] <ralsina> mandel: "that" means "the one we just talked about"
[15:56] <mandel> ralsina, the vista issue, if we merge yours, certainly
[15:56] <ralsina> mandel: you don't need it
[15:56] <ralsina> mandel: you only have to change utils.py
[15:57] <mandel> ralsina, then I can start tom early morning so that we can test it with a real pacakge in the afternoon, sounds like a plan?
[15:57] <ralsina> mandel: indeed
[15:57] <rye> ralsina, erm, no, you said it should be run in a different way and i did not create the bug
[15:57] <ralsina> of course, the people on vista will not upgrade, so :-/
[15:58] <ralsina> rye: I mean the one about uninstall.exe not being created. I saw it once :-)
[15:59] <ralsina> rye: rye: nevermind, found it, bug #885247
[15:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 885247 in ubuntuone-windows-installer "uninstall.exe not created on subsequent installations (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/885247
[16:00] <rye> ralsina, ah, i thought about auto update, sorry
[16:01] <ralsina> rye: I think I know why this one happens. The installation is not finished because it requires a reboot and it doesn't ask. If install.log says that, then it's fixable
[16:02] <mandel> ralsina, other reason is because you set installationtype to upgrade.
[16:02] <ralsina> mandel: hm?
[16:02] <mandel> ralsina, http://answers.bitrock.com/questions/500/issues-when-using-the-autoupdater-on-windows-vista
[16:03] <rye> mandel, why don't we use nullsofts' installer? :)
[16:04] <mandel> ralsina, all the info is there :)
[16:04] <ralsina> mandel: right, good info
[16:04] <ralsina> rye: this one is actually much nicer and easier ;-)
[16:05] <mandel> ralsina, I did my homework :P
[16:05]  * ralsina fedexes mandel a cookie
[16:05]  * mandel claps
[16:05] <rye> ralsina, is there any way to build the installer from our sources?
[16:06] <ralsina> rye: bzr branch lp:~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix_809873 then do as it says on scripts README
[16:07] <ralsina> mandel: I wonder *why* I am setting it to upgrade
[16:07] <dobey> lunch time, bbiab
[16:08] <mandel> ralsina, hehehe they clearly have a bug somewhere there :P
[16:08] <mandel> ralsina, funny thing, all the support guys are based in Spain, who would imaging that?
[16:10] <ralsina> mandel: ok, I set it to upgrade so I don't launch the setup wizard.
[16:10] <ralsina> mandel: I will just use another variable ;-)
[16:10] <mandel> ralsina, lets add a nice comment about that and mention someones mother :)
[16:10] <Neldogz> rye, duanedesign, I will be right back. i have to restart
[16:10] <mandel> although you are free no to mention mothers in commnets..
[16:11] <ralsina> mandel: it's all my fault, not mom's! ;-)
[16:21] <Neldogz> rye, duanedesign: I seem to have fixed the problem performing this exact process: Installed evolution, removed thunderbird-couchdb and couchdb. Restarted and installed just evolution-couchdb
[16:21] <Neldogz> i can now drag contacts into the Ubuntu One glob icon within thunderbird, and also evolution now opens up the Ubuntu One contacts when it did not before
[16:22] <duanedesign> Neldogz:  interesting
[16:23] <nessita> ok, in the rush I closed the chat window and forgot to say bye :-)
[16:23]  * nessita -> heading to the University
[16:23] <duanedesign> o/
[16:23] <Neldogz> duanedesign, now when i go to my ubuntu one dash, its prompting me to install the thunderbird-couchdb
[16:23] <nessita> anyone needs something from me before I go?
[16:24] <Neldogz> i wonder if installing it will break it
[16:24] <rye> thunderbird-couchdb???
[16:24] <rye> erm
[16:24] <rye> what is that?
[16:24] <Neldogz> rye, im assuming its thunderbird-couchdb because thats what i removed and now its asking to reinstall
[16:25] <Neldogz> Enable Contacts Sync under The ubuntu one control panel states, Install the Thunderbird plug-in for the sync service: contacts.. And there is a button for Install now
[16:25] <duanedesign> yes i installed thinderbird0couchdn too
[16:25] <duanedesign> prompted too in the U1 Control Panel
[16:26] <Neldogz> as of the moment i can drag and drop contacts into the ubuntu one globe within thunderbird however nothing appears to be syncing, im assuming it needs this plug-in
[16:26] <Neldogz> im going to install it and see if this breaks
[16:27] <Neldogz> also i should mention that EDS is currently installed in Thunderbird
[16:28] <Neldogz> it is confirmed when i clicked on the Install now, it stated it would install thunderbird-couchdb
[16:28] <Neldogz> now to test
[16:32] <rye> i will have to run away now, will be back in 3 hours :(
[16:33] <Neldogz> ok the thunderbird-couchdb extension is working
[16:33] <rye> Neldogz, what is your e-mail, i wonder whether replication is enabled for your account (send the private message with the email)
[16:33] <Neldogz> however i dont know if it is synching because the cloud service might still be down
[16:34] <Neldogz> arg, how do i send a PM within xchat =(
[16:35] <Neldogz> got it =)
[16:37] <Neldogz> duanedesign: is it working for you?
[16:38] <rye> Neldogz, ok, your account should be syncing, this is now being in charge of desktopcouch so you should look at the sync logs @ ~/.cache/desktop-couch/log/
[16:38] <mandel> ralsina, shall we chat with sidnei?
[16:39] <ralsina> mandel: my connection is going nuts, I drop every 2 minutes :-(
[16:39] <mandel> ralsina, I just have 1 hour left in my day (remember I start earlier on the T days due to rugby)
[16:39] <ralsina> mandel: but let's try :-)
[16:39] <mandel> ralsina, we can give it a go, if not we can try again tom :)
[16:40] <mandel> ralsina, I'm at mumble, let me know if you can get in :)
[16:44] <mandel> nessita, dobey can you take a quick look at lp:~mandel/ubuntuone-dev-tools/refactor-testcase I want to refactor the dbus test and later add a proxy test case, I'd like you opinion on this
[16:45] <mandel> nessita, dobey we can keep the API the same, although I don't mind going over all the projects fixing the import (maybe maitain the old api, change projects and then brake it)
[16:45] <Neldogz> rye: contacts still don't appear to be syncing to the cloud. I cant seem to find anything within the logs. Do you know a way to force a replication of ubuntu one?
[16:47] <nessita> mandel: I'm leaving to the uni, would you please bring this up tomorrow, again?
[16:47] <mandel> nessita, certainly
[16:54] <nessita> ok, I'm gone
[16:54] <nessita> bye all!
[16:54] <gatox> nessita, bye
[17:03] <dobey> mandel: sure
[17:03] <mandel> thx
[17:09] <dobey> mandel: so; i am ok with moving the testcase to a package instead of the module (but it should be 'testcases' instead of 'testcase')
[17:09] <dobey> mandel: however, i am not ok with the dbus/linux dbus/windows stuff
[17:09] <mandel> dobey, cool, I can change the name easily
[17:09] <mandel> dobey, would you leave it as it is?
[17:09] <mandel> dobey, is not much work anyways
[17:10] <dobey> i don't like the linux/windows split; i would just have testcases/dbus.py
[17:11] <mandel> dobey, sure, no problem what so ever
[17:11] <dobey> mandel: and i would put the import for compat in __init__.py, and have it issue a DeprecationWarning as well
[17:12] <mandel> dobey, make sense
[17:12] <mandel> let me jot this down so I work on it tom
[17:12] <mandel> dobey, any other comments, otherwise EOD :)
[17:14] <dobey> no
[17:15] <mandel> dobey, cool, I'll get those for tom then
[17:29] <dobey> so
[17:29] <dobey> pyxdg
[17:40] <splnet> If I am unable to ubuntu(using a different dist), can I still use ubuntu one?
[17:43] <dobey> splnet: what distribution?
[17:44] <splnet> opensuse
[17:44] <splnet> For instance dropbox provides a tar ball that works with any dist.
[17:45] <dobey> if you build and install the software and necessary deps, it should work, but we don't officially support them
[17:46] <splnet> dobey: ok how would I determine what the software and dependencies are?
[17:46] <dobey> and some things won't necessarily work, as opensuse doesn't use apt or have the same package names as debian/ubuntu/etc
[17:47] <dobey> splnet: you could inspect the source branches for the packages in ubuntu, on launchpad, and look at the debian/control files for each piece of ubuntuone
[17:48] <splnet> I thought I something about a java client. Can I do that instead?
[17:50] <dobey> the java code is for android
[17:50] <dobey> it is not generic java code
[17:51] <dobey> ubuntuone-storage-protocol and ubuntuone-client itself (the syncdaemon) should be pretty much fine on opensuse
[17:51] <dobey> ubuntuone-client-gnome should also work fine
[17:51] <dobey> ubuntuone-control-panel might have some issues, as it has some code that uses apt
[20:02] <gatox> ok, eod for me.... i'll keep fighting with win api later probably......
[20:02] <gatox> bye!
[20:07] <ralsina> The phone company is about to make me cry. Cry KHAAAAAAAAN like william shatner, that is.
[20:08] <dobey> uh ok
[20:16] <dobey> hrmm
[20:17]  * ralsina__ says in a very low voice: "what's bugging you dobey?"
[20:19] <dobey> pyxdg, and music players
[20:19] <ralsina> dobey: I share one, try my best to ignore the other
[20:20] <ralsina> Once pyxdg is in any kind of shape, I wouldn't mind maintaining it. I just don't have the time this month to put it in shape :-/
[20:20] <dobey> it lokos like we only ever use xdg.BaseDirectory anywhere though
[20:21] <dobey> so we probably don't need to fork all the other junk that comes with it, too
[20:22] <dobey> it would be nice to get pyxdg off the CD though
[20:24] <dobey> ralsina: i have been trying to think of a nice name for it, though; i *hate* "xdg" being in it
[20:24] <ralsina> we could just put the linux implementation along the windows one we already have
[20:24] <dobey> ralsina: no, it needs to be in a separate project
[20:24] <dobey> hard part is naming that project
[20:25] <ralsina> ok, then move both to a separate poject
[20:25] <dobey> fixing stuff after that is easy
[20:25] <dobey> i am. but i need a name :)
[20:25] <ralsina> python-basedir?
[20:26] <ralsina> Or if we want to avoid the obvious: "orange-unicorn-of-doom"
[20:32] <dobey> meh
[20:32] <ralsina> too post-metal?
[20:34] <dobey> i'm too tired
[20:35] <ralsina> go rest?
[20:35] <ralsina> come back fresh in the morning
[20:36] <dobey> and there's still the music player thing :(
[20:38] <ralsina> dobey: don't burn out dude.
[20:39] <dobey> i'm not burned out
[20:39] <ralsina> dobey: if you end up too tired too often, that leads to burnout. So, relax,have some illegal rhum or something. What is it 3PM? ;-)
[20:40] <dobey> 15:40
[20:40] <dobey> heh, i don't have any more illegal rum
[20:40] <dobey> finished it in orlando :)
[20:40] <ralsina> want some? ;)
[20:40] <dobey> yes; and in 3 weeks, i will have some ;)
[20:41] <ralsina> yes you will! And again, a single week to drink it so get a half-bottle :-)
[20:41] <dobey> heh
[20:41] <ralsina> Or we can buy a legal rhum bottle and change it. Can you ship opened bottles?
[20:41] <dobey> i'll just clean out beuno's stock
[20:42] <ralsina> I have tons of alcohol at home people give me which I don't drink. I am pretty sure I have one of those somewhere.
[20:42] <dobey> heh, i think the recipe is the same. it's just bottled on a different island, for the legal version :)
[20:43] <ralsina> it's the taste of the forbidden!
[20:43] <dobey> it's not like it comes with cuban women too
[20:43] <ralsina> I couldn't say, never had cuban rhum.
[20:43]  * beuno hides his alcohol
[20:44] <ralsina> rhum is basically distilled alcohol from sugar cane, aged in a cask, IIRC. The tricky part that could change the flavour is the aging.
[20:45] <dobey> ralsina: aging, and other ingredients
[20:45] <ralsina> dobey: yeah. Almost everywhere there is sugarcane they have something that is almost-rhum. Here it's called caña
[20:46] <dobey> oh, and type of wood and environment
[20:47] <ralsina> for example the paraguayan version is up to 70% alcohol by volume. After the first drink you can't *say* aging, much less care about it.
[20:49] <dobey> maybe *you* can't say aging
[20:49] <ralsina> well, it's harder in spanish
[20:49] <ralsina> "añejamiento"
[20:50] <dobey> http://www.havana-club.com/en/int/cuban-rum/anejo-7-anos
[20:51] <ralsina> "To enter you must be of legal drinking age in the country where you are accessing this site" are you kidding me?
[20:52] <ralsina> Somehow I suspect I will not imbibe any alcohol by watching the freaking site
[20:54] <dobey> you should get a beer for the occasion
[21:17] <ralsina> EOD for me. See you all tomoroow!
[21:20] <dobey> hrmm, actually, probably better to just write a new implementation of the xdg dirs stuff anyway; then avoids all the legal weirdness
[22:25] <j0nr> i made some changes to some existing music files (changed id3 tags) but the changes dont seem to have propogated to the android music app...
[23:02] <duanedesign> hello j0nr