| pleia2 | knome: know if you're available then? if so I can take a lead here and announce it and stuff | 00:52 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | pleia2, yeah, actually i think i will | 00:53 |
| knome | pleia2, earlier will work too if it works for you :) | 00:53 |
| knome | pleia2, if not, no problem.. | 00:54 |
| pleia2 | my lunch is at least until 2100, so I don't want to cut it too close | 00:54 |
| knome | yeah | 00:54 |
| ochosi | astraljava: do you already have the volume-indicator problem figured out? | 00:54 |
| knome | 22UTC is okay | 00:54 |
| astraljava | ochosi: No, I got caught off, because jussi needed attention. (they're actually both here overnight) | 00:54 |
| pleia2 | knome: ok, I'll draft up an announcement now | 00:55 |
| knome | ohh, tell the chipmunk-laughter guy "hey" from me | 00:55 |
| knome | pleia2, great, thanks for taking the task :) | 00:55 |
| ochosi | astraljava: ah right :) | 00:55 |
| ochosi | astraljava: do you have the indicator-sound package installed? | 00:56 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Let me check. | 00:56 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Yes, but not the -gtk2. | 00:57 |
| ochosi | i think you need -gtk2 | 00:58 |
| ochosi | gtk3 won't work with xfce's panel | 00:58 |
| astraljava | ochosi: Yep, that was it. Thanks again! You spoil me to death. | 00:58 |
| ochosi | ;) | 00:58 |
| knome | ochosi, yeah, don't give the dog crackers so often. | 00:58 |
| ochosi | btw, i just started porting bluebird to gtk3 :D | 01:00 |
| knome | hah, nice | 01:00 |
| ochosi | (uploading a screenshot atm) | 01:00 |
| knome | then add yourself as the assignee :P | 01:00 |
| ochosi | so i guess you can assign me to that one ;) | 01:00 |
| ochosi | k, will do | 01:00 |
| knome | i'm going already ;) | 01:00 |
| knome | see you! | 01:00 |
| ochosi | okeydokey – sleep well | 01:01 |
| ScottL | i see we need the indicator-sound-gtk2 package in oneiric, i'm guessing we should do an SRU if we want an update to our -desktop metapackage to be pushed to our users? | 04:11 |
| astraljava | ScottL: See -motu. | 08:47 |
| madnick | oooh | 11:48 |
| madnick | I see what Ubuntu did | 11:49 |
| knome | hm? | 11:49 |
| madnick | http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VE0o85yemCQ/TnmeMDCr3MI/AAAAAAAAAbU/4gWKWDQJSww/s1600/AutoLogin2.png | 11:49 |
| knome | mmh | 11:49 |
| madnick | There is really 4 fields | 11:49 |
| madnick | that are relevant, for the common user | 11:50 |
| knome | true | 11:50 |
| madnick | autologin-user=NAME autologin-user-timeout=n user-session=session greeter-session=greetername | 11:50 |
| madnick | since it uses the common configuration format | 11:50 |
| knome | i don't think the timeout is important for a common user | 11:50 |
| madnick | okay | 11:51 |
| knome | i'd say let's use a sane default | 11:51 |
| knome | but let's discuss that too at the meeting | 11:51 |
| knome | just my opinion.. | 11:51 |
| madnick | for most people that is probably 0 :P | 11:51 |
| madnick | okay | 11:51 |
| madnick | yes | 11:51 |
| knome | yeah | 11:51 |
| knome | or sth like 5 | 11:51 |
| knome | grub'ish | 11:51 |
| knome | also hmm | 11:52 |
| knome | greeter-session could be just our session ;P | 11:52 |
| madnick | when I use autologin, like on my HDMI computer hooked to the TV; i dont want to be promopted .P | 11:52 |
| madnick | yes | 11:52 |
| knome | and user-session probably locked to xubuntu... | 11:52 |
| knome | well, i don't know about that | 11:52 |
| knome | could be under advanced options | 11:53 |
| knome | i was thinking that if we add the option to our greeter | 11:53 |
| madnick | :) | 11:53 |
| knome | just a simple checkbox would do | 11:53 |
| madnick | True, if someone can install another greeter, they need to poke config files anyways | 11:54 |
| knome | yup | 11:54 |
| madnick | However. It really eliminates security of the login screen :P | 11:55 |
| knome | how? | 11:56 |
| madnick | sorta makes it just a "pick user" | 11:56 |
| knome | if you need to write the pass too | 11:56 |
| knome | for the setting to be saved | 11:56 |
| madnick | I suppose | 11:56 |
| knome | well definitely | 11:56 |
| knome | so, if you need a pass to change it... | 11:56 |
| madnick | yeah | 11:57 |
| madnick | I can't really think very well, been up since you said good night ;) | 11:58 |
| madnick | Ofc it should be like that | 11:59 |
| knome | heh | 11:59 |
| knome | ;) | 11:59 |
| knome | if you want to change the autologin'd suser | 11:59 |
| knome | *user | 11:59 |
| knome | do you need only the new users pass? | 12:00 |
| madnick | currently? | 12:00 |
| ochosi | hm, sorry to step in so uninformed, but is there already a way to configure the auto/login behavior of lightdm? | 12:00 |
| ochosi | (i mean: gui frontend) | 12:01 |
| madnick | It would probably make sense to make the one that checks the box be auto login user, on effective login | 12:01 |
| madnick | ochosi: no | 12:01 |
| madnick | So he would enter pass | 12:01 |
| knome | madnick, but doesn't need the "permission" of the previous autologged user? | 12:02 |
| ochosi | madnick: do you know whether anything like that is planned by ubuntu? cause if not maybe we could hack something small together (at least that sounds like a roadmap-item to me) | 12:02 |
| knome | ochosi, it IS on the roadmap | 12:02 |
| madnick | knome: no, becauase its a centralized configuration file | 12:02 |
| madnick | ochosi: ubuntu has it | 12:03 |
| madnick | but in their user manager | 12:03 |
| knome | madnick, editing it usually needs admin rights? | 12:03 |
| ochosi | knome: oh :) | 12:03 |
| knome | err, sudo? | 12:03 |
| madnick | knome: im pretty sure lightdm has good enough permissions | 12:03 |
| knome | madnick, i'm sure, but what if the user logging in doesn't? | 12:03 |
| madnick | well, it would be changed by the greeter | 12:04 |
| knome | madnick, let me try to explain | 12:04 |
| knome | user MASTER is a sudoer | 12:04 |
| knome | MASTER sets him to be the autologged user | 12:04 |
| knome | then logs out | 12:04 |
| knome | user SLAVE is not a sudoer | 12:04 |
| knome | user SLAVE tries to set himself as autologged | 12:04 |
| knome | will he be able, if editing the conf file usually needs sudo rights? | 12:05 |
| madnick | well thats up to us, but the current thought im playing with is yes he would | 12:05 |
| knome | why? | 12:05 |
| knome | i don't think he should... | 12:06 |
| knome | if the config file is not open for him to edit manually | 12:06 |
| madnick | Well, I suppose we can just not allow him then :P | 12:06 |
| knome | then it shouldn't be open for him to edit it via lightdm either | 12:06 |
| knome | though that is a problem | 12:07 |
| knome | if you want a non-sudoer to be logged in automatically for security issues | 12:07 |
| knome | you can't | 12:07 |
| madnick | Hm | 12:07 |
| madnick | So we do and we damned we damned if we dont | 12:07 |
| knome | haha | 12:08 |
| knome | ;) | 12:08 |
| knome | this shouts for a GUI | 12:08 |
| madnick | true | 12:08 |
| knome | in non-greeter | 12:08 |
| knome | because then it's okay as long as you are a sudoer, and have verified that | 12:08 |
| madnick | But I dont belive in letting users have ALL the options of the config file | 12:08 |
| knome | nope | 12:08 |
| knome | just the basic stuff | 12:08 |
| madnick | yeah | 12:08 |
| madnick | But making a GUI | 12:10 |
| madnick | In the Settings | 12:10 |
| madnick | Im not 100% sure how we add things into that | 12:10 |
| madnick | because the its not windowed | 12:10 |
| knome | mm | 12:11 |
| knome | there is a way | 12:11 |
| knome | i know that | 12:11 |
| madnick | Okay | 12:11 |
| madnick | We could simply add it to the settings menu :P | 12:12 |
| madnick | Its where blueman is at | 12:12 |
| knome | ugh | 12:13 |
| knome | well, the settings manager is pluggable | 12:13 |
| knome | ask #xfce-dev | 12:13 |
| ochosi | yeah, having it in the settings-manager makes a lot more sense to me | 12:13 |
| knome | yeah | 12:13 |
| madnick | Yes, I just did not know it was possible :P I figured "if blueman isnt there, we probably could not add it, otherwise we would" | 12:14 |
| knome | :P | 12:14 |
| knome | it is possible | 12:14 |
| ochosi | yeah, well the general problem is that the settings-manager is now kinda clean, but it can get messy real quick if you add too much | 12:14 |
| ochosi | we had a discussion with nick on the xfce-dev ml about that a while ago | 12:15 |
| knome | yeah, but this should be added definitely | 12:15 |
| ochosi | yup | 12:15 |
| madnick | I was just looking at the settings screen, one would need to use GTK normal controllers :| | 12:30 |
| madnick | otherwise it wont fit in :P | 12:30 |
| madnick | visually* | 12:30 |
| ochosi | ideally it would be like the other pluggable dialogs and have the "back" button | 12:38 |
| knome | madnick, problems? | 12:39 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/plugin.png | 12:45 |
| madnick | nope but | 12:45 |
| madnick | Im slow today | 12:45 |
| knome | madnick, ++ | 12:46 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/ldm.png | 14:20 |
| madnick | heh, i know, its terrible, but i need to sleep :P atleast it works | 14:20 |
| madnick | I will need some stuff, like icons | 14:20 |
| madnick | if we decide to do this | 14:20 |
| ochosi | madnick: awesome! if you want we can discuss the layout of the preferences dialog together | 17:20 |
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