[00:52] knome: know if you're available then? if so I can take a lead here and announce it and stuff [00:53] pleia2, yeah, actually i think i will [00:53] pleia2, earlier will work too if it works for you :) [00:54] pleia2, if not, no problem.. [00:54] my lunch is at least until 2100, so I don't want to cut it too close [00:54] yeah [00:54] astraljava: do you already have the volume-indicator problem figured out? [00:54] 22UTC is okay [00:54] ochosi: No, I got caught off, because jussi needed attention. (they're actually both here overnight) [00:55] knome: ok, I'll draft up an announcement now [00:55] ohh, tell the chipmunk-laughter guy "hey" from me [00:55] pleia2, great, thanks for taking the task :) [00:55] astraljava: ah right :) [00:56] astraljava: do you have the indicator-sound package installed? [00:56] ochosi: Let me check. [00:57] ochosi: Yes, but not the -gtk2. [00:58] i think you need -gtk2 [00:58] gtk3 won't work with xfce's panel [00:58] ochosi: Yep, that was it. Thanks again! You spoil me to death. [00:58] ;) [00:58] ochosi, yeah, don't give the dog crackers so often. [01:00] btw, i just started porting bluebird to gtk3 :D [01:00] hah, nice [01:00] (uploading a screenshot atm) [01:00] then add yourself as the assignee :P [01:00] so i guess you can assign me to that one ;) [01:00] k, will do [01:00] i'm going already ;) [01:00] see you! [01:01] okeydokey – sleep well [04:11] i see we need the indicator-sound-gtk2 package in oneiric, i'm guessing we should do an SRU if we want an update to our -desktop metapackage to be pushed to our users? [08:47] ScottL: See -motu. [11:48] oooh [11:49] I see what Ubuntu did [11:49] hm? [11:49] http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VE0o85yemCQ/TnmeMDCr3MI/AAAAAAAAAbU/4gWKWDQJSww/s1600/AutoLogin2.png [11:49] mmh [11:49] There is really 4 fields [11:50] that are relevant, for the common user [11:50] true [11:50] autologin-user=NAME autologin-user-timeout=n user-session=session greeter-session=greetername [11:50] since it uses the common configuration format [11:50] i don't think the timeout is important for a common user [11:51] okay [11:51] i'd say let's use a sane default [11:51] but let's discuss that too at the meeting [11:51] just my opinion.. [11:51] for most people that is probably 0 :P [11:51] okay [11:51] yes [11:51] yeah [11:51] or sth like 5 [11:51] grub'ish [11:52] also hmm [11:52] greeter-session could be just our session ;P [11:52] when I use autologin, like on my HDMI computer hooked to the TV; i dont want to be promopted .P [11:52] yes [11:52] and user-session probably locked to xubuntu... [11:52] well, i don't know about that [11:53] could be under advanced options [11:53] i was thinking that if we add the option to our greeter [11:53] :) [11:53] just a simple checkbox would do [11:54] True, if someone can install another greeter, they need to poke config files anyways [11:54] yup [11:55] However. It really eliminates security of the login screen :P [11:56] how? [11:56] sorta makes it just a "pick user" [11:56] if you need to write the pass too [11:56] for the setting to be saved [11:56] I suppose [11:56] well definitely [11:56] so, if you need a pass to change it... [11:57] yeah [11:58] I can't really think very well, been up since you said good night ;) [11:59] Ofc it should be like that [11:59] heh [11:59] ;) [11:59] if you want to change the autologin'd suser [11:59] *user [12:00] do you need only the new users pass? [12:00] currently? [12:00] hm, sorry to step in so uninformed, but is there already a way to configure the auto/login behavior of lightdm? [12:01] (i mean: gui frontend) [12:01] It would probably make sense to make the one that checks the box be auto login user, on effective login [12:01] ochosi: no [12:01] So he would enter pass [12:02] madnick, but doesn't need the "permission" of the previous autologged user? [12:02] madnick: do you know whether anything like that is planned by ubuntu? cause if not maybe we could hack something small together (at least that sounds like a roadmap-item to me) [12:02] ochosi, it IS on the roadmap [12:02] knome: no, becauase its a centralized configuration file [12:03] ochosi: ubuntu has it [12:03] but in their user manager [12:03] madnick, editing it usually needs admin rights? [12:03] knome: oh :) [12:03] err, sudo? [12:03] knome: im pretty sure lightdm has good enough permissions [12:03] madnick, i'm sure, but what if the user logging in doesn't? [12:04] well, it would be changed by the greeter [12:04] madnick, let me try to explain [12:04] user MASTER is a sudoer [12:04] MASTER sets him to be the autologged user [12:04] then logs out [12:04] user SLAVE is not a sudoer [12:04] user SLAVE tries to set himself as autologged [12:05] will he be able, if editing the conf file usually needs sudo rights? [12:05] well thats up to us, but the current thought im playing with is yes he would [12:05] why? [12:06] i don't think he should... [12:06] if the config file is not open for him to edit manually [12:06] Well, I suppose we can just not allow him then :P [12:06] then it shouldn't be open for him to edit it via lightdm either [12:07] though that is a problem [12:07] if you want a non-sudoer to be logged in automatically for security issues [12:07] you can't [12:07] Hm [12:07] So we do and we damned we damned if we dont [12:08] haha [12:08] ;) [12:08] this shouts for a GUI [12:08] true [12:08] in non-greeter [12:08] because then it's okay as long as you are a sudoer, and have verified that [12:08] But I dont belive in letting users have ALL the options of the config file [12:08] nope [12:08] just the basic stuff [12:08] yeah [12:10] But making a GUI [12:10] In the Settings [12:10] Im not 100% sure how we add things into that [12:10] because the its not windowed [12:11] mm [12:11] there is a way [12:11] i know that [12:11] Okay [12:12] We could simply add it to the settings menu :P [12:12] Its where blueman is at [12:13] ugh [12:13] well, the settings manager is pluggable [12:13] ask #xfce-dev [12:13] yeah, having it in the settings-manager makes a lot more sense to me [12:13] yeah [12:14] Yes, I just did not know it was possible :P I figured "if blueman isnt there, we probably could not add it, otherwise we would" [12:14] :P [12:14] it is possible [12:14] yeah, well the general problem is that the settings-manager is now kinda clean, but it can get messy real quick if you add too much [12:15] we had a discussion with nick on the xfce-dev ml about that a while ago [12:15] yeah, but this should be added definitely [12:15] yup [12:30] I was just looking at the settings screen, one would need to use GTK normal controllers :| [12:30] otherwise it wont fit in :P [12:30] visually* [12:38] ideally it would be like the other pluggable dialogs and have the "back" button [12:39] madnick, problems? [12:45] http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/plugin.png [12:45] nope but [12:45] Im slow today [12:46] madnick, ++ [14:20] http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/ldm.png [14:20] heh, i know, its terrible, but i need to sleep :P atleast it works [14:20] I will need some stuff, like icons [14:20] if we decide to do this [17:20] madnick: awesome! if you want we can discuss the layout of the preferences dialog together === baizon_ is now known as baizon