| MechYeti | Hello. | 00:02 |
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| zenrox | hello | 00:02 |
| === Guest32231 is now known as sancris | ||
| doc__ | ahoy hot | 00:43 |
| doc__ | hoy | 00:43 |
| doc__ | well that ruined me forever | 00:43 |
| knome | hey doc__, no need to be embarrassed, we all make mistakes now and then | 00:44 |
| doc__ | lol I know... I kid | 00:44 |
| doc__ | I just installed xubuntu and teaching myself how to use it | 00:44 |
| MechYeti | How's that going? | 00:55 |
| doc__ | pretty good | 00:56 |
| doc__ | installed mp3 support, installed windows share and printers | 00:56 |
| MechYeti | Sounds good. What kind of machine is it? | 01:00 |
| doc__ | p4 dual core 3.8gz | 01:13 |
| kirua | pentium 4 dual core ? | 01:14 |
| doc__ | thats right | 01:14 |
| kirua | why you didnt install ubuntu ? | 01:14 |
| doc__ | wanted out of the box mp3 support | 01:15 |
| doc__ | and first time with linux | 01:15 |
| MechYeti | I didn't realize there was a difference in mp3 support. | 01:21 |
| doc__ | well I tried installing fedora 13 and getting mp3 support on that was a pain | 01:21 |
| doc__ | so I went with something stupideasy | 01:21 |
| MechYeti | Ah. | 01:23 |
| doc__ | so whats this wine thing then? | 01:25 |
| Unit193 | !wine | 01:25 |
| ubottu | WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu | 01:25 |
| doc__ | thanks, helpful script | 01:26 |
| Unit193 | ubottu is a bot | 01:26 |
| ubottu | Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information. | 01:26 |
| doc__ | I know | 01:26 |
| MechYeti | Nifty. | 01:27 |
| MechYeti | Depending on what you're trying to run with it, wine is either magical or a source of maddening frustration. | 01:30 |
| doc__ | what can't be done with it? | 01:31 |
| MechYeti | Allows you to run programs made for windows on linux. | 01:31 |
| MechYeti | Oh, sorry, read "can't" as "can". | 01:32 |
| doc__ | salright | 01:33 |
| MechYeti | It's really case by case what works well. But more popular things are often better supported because people have already put the time in to getting them working. | 01:34 |
| doc__ | what about stuff like photyshop? | 01:36 |
| Artemis3 | you could try checking in their http://appdb.winehq.org/ for each program | 01:37 |
| doc__ | thanks | 01:38 |
| Artemis3 | i use wine for a couple of games | 01:38 |
| === m00se is now known as fraublucher | ||
| === fraublucher is now known as m00se | ||
| voodootru | yey 4 irc during install! | 02:38 |
| Artemis3 | well its a live desktop | 02:40 |
| voodootru | pretty neat!, now it says I gotta reboot! | 02:42 |
| kirua | hi | 04:35 |
| === phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy | ||
| kirua | i'm trying to install xubuntu on a computer with windows xp, should i choose "install next to windows xp" (in dual boot mode) or "use the largest free space avalaible (or something like that)" since i let like 15gb on the hdd not assigned to any partition ? | 04:40 |
| holstein | kirua: pretty sure 'install next to' will offer for you to resize | 04:41 |
| kirua | ok, thx | 04:42 |
| xubuntu721 | bonjour à tous | 08:53 |
| madnick | !fr | 08:54 |
| ubottu | Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 08:54 |
| xubuntu721 | thank you | 08:54 |
| madnick | :) | 08:55 |
| SiDi | hey can sbdy please paste a ls /boot for me? i also need the exact kernel version of 11.10 with no updates... thx | 09:36 |
| SiDi | knome ochosi ^ | 09:37 |
| well_laid_lawn | SiDi: paste.pocoo.org/show/508106 | 09:44 |
| ochosi | SiDi: well_laid_lawn posted this for you but then your connection crashed: paste.pocoo.org/show/508106 | 09:46 |
| SiDi | ty | 09:47 |
| SiDi | cant click link type http:// pls ^^ | 09:47 |
| well_laid_lawn | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/508106 | 09:50 |
| well_laid_lawn | you can highlight with the mouse and middle click to paste | 09:50 |
| knome | SiDi, lol :P | 09:54 |
| knome | well_laid_lawn, he's just lazy | 09:54 |
| SiDi | im on a phone its complicated | 09:55 |
| bzn | hi guys | 11:16 |
| bzn | a have a problem with apt get | 11:16 |
| bzn | i cannot install any packages | 11:16 |
| Sysi | run apt-get update | 11:17 |
| daz4126_ | Is it possible to run Ubuntu One in Xubuntu? | 11:21 |
| daz4126_ | I was trying out #! Linux last night and was impressed that it comes with Dropbox already set up | 11:22 |
| knome | ubuntu one is not really supported | 11:22 |
| knome | i don't know if it could work at all or not | 11:22 |
| daz4126_ | Dropbox works well in Xubuntu | 11:23 |
| daz4126_ | Would it be possible to have it installed by default? | 11:23 |
| knome | you can add that to our roadmap for PP, and we'll see if people approve it and if it will get an assignee :) | 11:23 |
| daz4126_ | #! also has some nice default key combinations that use super | 11:23 |
| knome | daz4126_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap | 11:23 |
| madnick | :| | 11:24 |
| knome | madnick, ? | 11:24 |
| madnick | dropbox is | 11:24 |
| Sysi | I could suggest hotkey swaps too | 11:24 |
| madnick | awesome, nvm | 11:24 |
| knome | Sysi, add an item to the roadmap, add yourself as the assignee, and write a specification | 11:25 |
| knome | Sysi, you could even add "Sysi + community" as the assignee | 11:25 |
| madnick | Isn't hotkeys swappable? | 11:26 |
| Sysi | but defaults suck | 11:26 |
| Sysi | super-s vs. alt F8 | 11:26 |
| Sysi | or was it F9 | 11:26 |
| knome | madnick, Sysi: i'm open for discussion. i don't have larger-than-life feelings towards them anyway | 11:27 |
| Sysi | I'll add them to roadmap when I get home | 11:27 |
| knome | though if it means changing what upstream gives us, we should think/discuss in changing stuff in upstream too, if possible | 11:27 |
| knome | s/in/about/ | 11:28 |
| madnick | btw knome, that xfce menu editor guy, is that your friend? | 11:28 |
| daz4126_ | eg super+w launches web brower in #! | 11:28 |
| knome | madnick, yes, was having a few beers with him yesterday | 11:29 |
| daz4126_ | Conky is also installed as default in #! and the shortcut keys are displayed on the desktop, which is nice | 11:29 |
| daz4126_ | madnick - is Dropbox a problem? | 11:29 |
| knome | there has been some really general discussion in including some conky stuff to xubuntu by default, but mostly be me only | 11:30 |
| madnick | Define problem :) | 11:30 |
| daz4126_ | :| | 11:31 |
| knome | Sysi, you want me to add the item to the roadmap now? | 11:31 |
| daz4126_ | I've not really seen conky before, but it was nice to have it by default | 11:31 |
| Sysi | knome: you could | 11:32 |
| knome | okay, i will | 11:32 |
| knome | Sysi, realname or nick? | 11:33 |
| Sysi | I was thinking more of window managment shortcuts, but those more general ones would be even easier to have | 11:33 |
| Sysi | knome: most xubuntu people propaböy recognize me better by nick | 11:33 |
| knome | i suppose that's the case with all of use :) | 11:33 |
| daz4126_ | They all corresponded to the default apps | 11:33 |
| knome | -e | 11:33 |
| madnick | Im unsure why that autologin thing is on there, its not a current problem and not a future one, or did people want a GUI for that? | 11:33 |
| daz4126_ | super+e = gedit, super+f = thunar etc | 11:34 |
| knome | daz4126_, i don't know if we want default application-shortcuts | 11:34 |
| knome | daz4126_, maybe for x-www-browser and such at most | 11:34 |
| Sysi | yeah, exo-launchers | 11:34 |
| daz4126_ | Just saying it was a nice feature in #! | 11:35 |
| Sysi | I use super+F for fullscreen | 11:35 |
| knome | madnick, well, if you can't enable autologin without touching a conf file, i think it is a bug... since you were able to do that before OO with a gui | 11:35 |
| madnick | knome: i see, how was that in GDM? | 11:36 |
| madnick | In the settings panel? | 11:36 |
| knome | madnick, i'm not sure. i never used autologin really | 11:36 |
| Sysi | gdm1 had settings, for some time there was gdm2setup | 11:36 |
| daz4126_ | I think autologin is an option when you install | 11:36 |
| knome | this might have had something to do with the alternative install | 11:37 |
| madnick | Well, it is arragneable to make the greeter itself invokable with a command that adds autologin to the config file, is that a solution? | 11:37 |
| knome | madnick, i didn't completely follow | 11:38 |
| knome | madnick, you mean like adding an option to the greeter? | 11:38 |
| madnick | Yes | 11:38 |
| knome | that would work for me, but i'd say let's have a quick poll about this in the next community meeting | 11:39 |
| madnick | Because while it would be possible to make a GUI for it, and add to the menu's, that seems more like something XFCE dev perhaps should look into, since the settings window seems like an XFCE thing :P | 11:39 |
| knome | yeah | 11:39 |
| knome | i added an item to the meeting agenda | 11:39 |
| madnick | awesome :) | 11:40 |
| Sysi | lightdm is xubuntu-stuff, not xfce | 11:40 |
| knome | should be a really quickie though | 11:40 |
| knome | madnick, maybe you want to set yourself as the assignee for the autologin stuff anyway | 11:40 |
| madnick | okay | 11:40 |
| knome | mmh, one should talk with the lightdm-dev if you want to build a GUI for that | 11:41 |
| knome | it should be callable from the xfce settings manager though | 11:41 |
| madnick | I *think* (not sure) Ubuntu already has a GUI | 11:42 |
| primary | I have to ask why everyone is interested in auto-login, what purpose does that serve beyond something like an internet kiosk with no private information on it? xlock/xdm/etc keep a very minimal amount of security around against 98% of people. | 11:42 |
| knome | yeah, we could investigate that too | 11:42 |
| Sysi | primary: my desktop is at home behing locked doors, why not | 11:42 |
| madnick | Yeah but its based around the default greeter aswell from what i can see | 11:42 |
| knome | primary, not everybody is, but if you have a single-user setup for a pc at home, autologin could be ideal | 11:42 |
| primary | Hmm, do you live with anyone else? | 11:43 |
| knome | primary, well that is something that is kind of meta-talk anyway. do you trust your wife? | 11:43 |
| knome | etc... | 11:43 |
| primary | No :( | 11:43 |
| knome | then you probably won't enable autologin. but if you do, why wouldn't you? | 11:44 |
| Sysi | I haven't *yet* set locks on my laptop.. | 11:44 |
| madnick | no encrypted bootloader? :\ | 11:44 |
| madnick | :D | 11:44 |
| bzn | sorry guys was afk | 12:40 |
| bzn | Sysi: i cant | 12:40 |
| bzn | im getting an errror | 12:40 |
| Sysi | how do I get gmusicbrowser to go to next song when current one ends? By default it jumps to some random song from album I don't even have selected | 14:05 |
| Sysi | I don't have shuffle enabled | 14:05 |
| testisteron | I have a problem with panel | 14:10 |
| testisteron | Notification Area work normally but Message applet doesn't seen | 14:11 |
| testisteron | When I minimized to Pidgin, It's closed | 14:12 |
| testisteron | And I can't resolve this | 14:12 |
| Sysi | do you have indicator applet in your panel? | 14:13 |
| testisteron | Thank you Sysi | 14:29 |
| tjingboem | how can i change the menu settings? | 15:32 |
| tjingboem | i want to change the path of a program | 15:32 |
| tjingboem | got it | 15:32 |
| tjingboem | sorry | 15:32 |
| GridCube | tjingboem: dont worry, no questions are dumb, except when they really really are | 15:35 |
| tjingboem | no, my question stands | 15:35 |
| GridCube | what is that you want to do tjingboem ¿ | 15:35 |
| tjingboem | i thought it wab in Panel | 15:35 |
| tjingboem | i want to change the menu | 15:36 |
| tjingboem | and i do not talk about diner | 15:36 |
| GridCube | well, :P | 15:37 |
| tjingboem | but the applications menu | 15:37 |
| GridCube | :D | 15:38 |
| GridCube | yeah i got that | 15:38 |
| GridCube | the thing is, xfce doesnt really have a menu editor | 15:38 |
| GridCube | you can do however, what question 6 suggests: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website/Top10 | 15:38 |
| GridCube | be aware that alacarte pulls half of gnome/compiz/unity with it if you dont do --no-install-recommends | 15:40 |
| hobgoblin | I played with alacarte a few months ago to do that - it was not completely satisfactory from memory - things I wnated to deal with weren't showing there - just a fyi | 15:41 |
| GridCube | well i never did, its just a thing, usually i just create a launchers box for things i want to do | 15:42 |
| hobgoblin | I just learnt about those things - assuming them to be what I Think they are - very useful | 15:43 |
| tjingboem | well, i like Xubuntu because it is more or less lightweight | 15:54 |
| tjingboem | don't wanna get a lot of compiz stuff | 15:54 |
| daz4126_ | if you put --no-install-recommends then you will just get alacarte | 15:55 |
| daz4126_ | it works fine | 15:55 |
| tjingboem | thanks daz4126_ , sounds good | 15:56 |
| tjingboem | i will dig into this | 15:56 |
| tjingboem | funny name a la carta | 15:57 |
| tjingboem | lol | 15:57 |
| tjingboem | a la cart | 15:57 |
| tjingboem | really getting hungry now | 15:58 |
| tjingboem | should autostart alacarte when i start Xubuntu? | 16:04 |
| GridCube | tjingboem: no. its just an editor | 16:09 |
| tjingboem | will the changes be reflected in the Applications menu of Xubuntu? | 16:10 |
| GridCube | tjingboem: they should yes | 16:41 |
| pteague_work | seems to be an issue with xfce4-weather-plugin ... doesn't seem to be getting data :( | 16:44 |
| pteague_work | "Weather report for: 99."... everything is 99... temp is 99F, wind speed is 99 mph, etc | 16:46 |
| GridCube | pteague_work: thats the weather channel fault | 16:46 |
| GridCube | they changed their xml schema | 16:47 |
| GridCube | and now you have to pay to see how it is or something like that | 16:47 |
| GridCube | but in any case the plugin should be rewritten | 16:49 |
| GridCube | and there are no plans to do so in the near time | 16:49 |
| GridCube | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-November/008038.html | 16:50 |
| GridCube | http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2011-November/029278.html | 16:51 |
| Sysi | I think I saw bug report with solution | 16:59 |
| === CiPi is now known as cipi | ||
| jmcantrell | i just installed xubuntu on my eeepc, but network manager shows "device not ready" for the wireless. anyone seen this? | 17:42 |
| istok | for some reason the top/bottom toolbars are gone, they were available the last time i booted and now, if i minimize an application etc, it completely vanishes and i can't select it again :/ | 17:45 |
| istok | i'm sure i have "save last session" selected | 17:46 |
| TheSheep | istok: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' | 18:36 |
| KaiRun | hey which ones are the sound fds in /dev/ ? i m having trouble finding them | 19:33 |
| TheSheep | KaiRun: fds? | 19:34 |
| pteague_work | KaiRun, might try /dev/snd/* ? | 19:39 |
| KaiRun | i m trying that but i get corrupted fd | 19:39 |
| KaiRun | or permission denied even though i m root | 19:40 |
| KaiRun | really strange | 19:40 |
| TheSheep | KaiRun: what are you trying to do? | 19:40 |
| KaiRun | pipe my ouput to some distortion programms | 19:41 |
| TheSheep | KaiRun: ouput? | 19:41 |
| KaiRun | output | 19:41 |
| TheSheep | KaiRun: output from what? | 19:41 |
| KaiRun | from the sound fd | 19:42 |
| TheSheep | fd? | 19:42 |
| KaiRun | file descriptor | 19:43 |
| === baizon_ is now known as baizon | ||
| holme | Hey, I just installed Openoffice, and the autocorrect wont work. The dictionaries are installed, etc etc | 19:43 |
| TheSheep | file descriptor is a structure in the memory of a running process that is used to access a file | 19:43 |
| holme | any advice? | 19:43 |
| TheSheep | it doesn't exist on the disk | 19:43 |
| TheSheep | the things on the disk are called files | 19:43 |
| KaiRun | so its a no? | 19:44 |
| TheSheep | I think ubuntu doesn't have /dev/dsp and such anymore by default | 19:45 |
| TheSheep | you might be able to enable them in alsa config somehow though | 19:45 |
| KaiRun | hmm | 19:45 |
| TheSheep | the ones in /dev/snd are probably more low-level things | 19:46 |
| TheSheep | just my guess | 19:46 |
| TheSheep | ah, /dev/dsp is for oss | 19:46 |
| TheSheep | I think alsa has oss emulation | 19:48 |
| TheSheep | alsa-oss | 19:48 |
| TheSheep | or you can use padsp in front of your command | 19:49 |
| KaiRun | ok i ll try | 19:50 |
| KaiRun | tnx | 19:50 |
| TheSheep | http://askubuntu.com/questions/11776/missing-dev-dsp-what-do-i-need-to-do-install-for-sound-input-from-mencoder | 19:53 |
| rhin0 | can | 20:26 |
| rhin0 | can;t enable twinview in 11.10 --- have nvidia recommended drivers loaded | 20:26 |
| alethiophile | did dist upgrade to oneiric, it replaced all my fonts with ugly spindly ones | 20:46 |
| alethiophile | how do I get the originals back? | 20:46 |
| alex___ | greets | 20:59 |
| === jcfp is now known as Guest56906 | ||
| DoK | hi all | 21:29 |
| holme | Hey. How do I get the autocorrect to work in Openoffice. Everything is in place, but it just wont work...does anyone have any advice? | 21:53 |
| daz4126 | Hey everybody, I've been playing around with some ideas for a xubuntu logo that combines the ubuntu logo with an X | 22:42 |
| daz4126 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17368814/xubuntu-logo.png | 22:42 |
| w30 | ever since OSX came out everything has to be blue, God I hate blue... anything but blue for me. | 22:45 |
| w30 | I work hard to get the blue out of my box. | 22:46 |
| w30 | however I can get the blue out of anything with gimp *smile* | 22:47 |
| Unit193 | daz4126: Hey, lets go to #xubuntu-offtopic since it's not support ;) Can talk about it there | 22:47 |
| w30 | I'll be quiet I promise.... | 22:48 |
| w30 | sorry | 22:48 |
| daz4126 | blue was just the colors on the Xubuntu artwork page | 22:49 |
| daz4126 | going into #xubuntu-offtopic | 22:49 |
| antnash | is there somewhere I can find a xubuntu 11.10 package list? | 23:54 |
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