[00:02] Hello. [00:02] hello === Guest32231 is now known as sancris [00:43] ahoy hot [00:43] hoy [00:43] well that ruined me forever [00:44] hey doc__, no need to be embarrassed, we all make mistakes now and then [00:44] lol I know... I kid [00:44] I just installed xubuntu and teaching myself how to use it [00:55] How's that going? [00:56] pretty good [00:56] installed mp3 support, installed windows share and printers [01:00] Sounds good. What kind of machine is it? [01:13] p4 dual core 3.8gz [01:14] pentium 4 dual core ? [01:14] thats right [01:14] why you didnt install ubuntu ? [01:15] wanted out of the box mp3 support [01:15] and first time with linux [01:21] I didn't realize there was a difference in mp3 support. [01:21] well I tried installing fedora 13 and getting mp3 support on that was a pain [01:21] so I went with something stupideasy [01:23] Ah. [01:25] so whats this wine thing then? [01:25] !wine [01:25] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [01:26] thanks, helpful script [01:26] ubottu is a bot [01:26] Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots for all information. [01:26] I know [01:27] Nifty. [01:30] Depending on what you're trying to run with it, wine is either magical or a source of maddening frustration. [01:31] what can't be done with it? [01:31] Allows you to run programs made for windows on linux. [01:32] Oh, sorry, read "can't" as "can". [01:33] salright [01:34] It's really case by case what works well. But more popular things are often better supported because people have already put the time in to getting them working. [01:36] what about stuff like photyshop? [01:37] you could try checking in their http://appdb.winehq.org/ for each program [01:38] thanks [01:38] i use wine for a couple of games === m00se is now known as fraublucher === fraublucher is now known as m00se [02:38] yey 4 irc during install! [02:40] well its a live desktop [02:42] pretty neat!, now it says I gotta reboot! [04:35] hi === phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy [04:40] i'm trying to install xubuntu on a computer with windows xp, should i choose "install next to windows xp" (in dual boot mode) or "use the largest free space avalaible (or something like that)" since i let like 15gb on the hdd not assigned to any partition ? [04:41] kirua: pretty sure 'install next to' will offer for you to resize [04:42] ok, thx [08:53] bonjour à tous [08:54] !fr [08:54] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [08:54] thank you [08:55] :) [09:36] hey can sbdy please paste a ls /boot for me? i also need the exact kernel version of 11.10 with no updates... thx [09:37] knome ochosi ^ [09:44] SiDi: paste.pocoo.org/show/508106 [09:46] SiDi: well_laid_lawn posted this for you but then your connection crashed: paste.pocoo.org/show/508106 [09:47] ty [09:47] cant click link type http:// pls ^^ [09:50] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/508106 [09:50] you can highlight with the mouse and middle click to paste [09:54] SiDi, lol :P [09:54] well_laid_lawn, he's just lazy [09:55] im on a phone its complicated [11:16] hi guys [11:16] a have a problem with apt get [11:16] i cannot install any packages [11:17] run apt-get update [11:21] Is it possible to run Ubuntu One in Xubuntu? [11:22] I was trying out #! Linux last night and was impressed that it comes with Dropbox already set up [11:22] ubuntu one is not really supported [11:22] i don't know if it could work at all or not [11:23] Dropbox works well in Xubuntu [11:23] Would it be possible to have it installed by default? [11:23] you can add that to our roadmap for PP, and we'll see if people approve it and if it will get an assignee :) [11:23] #! also has some nice default key combinations that use super [11:23] daz4126_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap [11:24] :| [11:24] madnick, ? [11:24] dropbox is [11:24] I could suggest hotkey swaps too [11:24] awesome, nvm [11:25] Sysi, add an item to the roadmap, add yourself as the assignee, and write a specification [11:25] Sysi, you could even add "Sysi + community" as the assignee [11:26] Isn't hotkeys swappable? [11:26] but defaults suck [11:26] super-s vs. alt F8 [11:26] or was it F9 [11:27] madnick, Sysi: i'm open for discussion. i don't have larger-than-life feelings towards them anyway [11:27] I'll add them to roadmap when I get home [11:27] though if it means changing what upstream gives us, we should think/discuss in changing stuff in upstream too, if possible [11:28] s/in/about/ [11:28] btw knome, that xfce menu editor guy, is that your friend? [11:28] eg super+w launches web brower in #! [11:29] madnick, yes, was having a few beers with him yesterday [11:29] Conky is also installed as default in #! and the shortcut keys are displayed on the desktop, which is nice [11:29] madnick - is Dropbox a problem? [11:30] there has been some really general discussion in including some conky stuff to xubuntu by default, but mostly be me only [11:30] Define problem :) [11:31] :| [11:31] Sysi, you want me to add the item to the roadmap now? [11:31] I've not really seen conky before, but it was nice to have it by default [11:32] knome: you could [11:32] okay, i will [11:33] Sysi, realname or nick? [11:33] I was thinking more of window managment shortcuts, but those more general ones would be even easier to have [11:33] knome: most xubuntu people propaböy recognize me better by nick [11:33] i suppose that's the case with all of use :) [11:33] They all corresponded to the default apps [11:33] -e [11:33] Im unsure why that autologin thing is on there, its not a current problem and not a future one, or did people want a GUI for that? [11:34] super+e = gedit, super+f = thunar etc [11:34] daz4126_, i don't know if we want default application-shortcuts [11:34] daz4126_, maybe for x-www-browser and such at most [11:34] yeah, exo-launchers [11:35] Just saying it was a nice feature in #! [11:35] I use super+F for fullscreen [11:35] madnick, well, if you can't enable autologin without touching a conf file, i think it is a bug... since you were able to do that before OO with a gui [11:36] knome: i see, how was that in GDM? [11:36] In the settings panel? [11:36] madnick, i'm not sure. i never used autologin really [11:36] gdm1 had settings, for some time there was gdm2setup [11:36] I think autologin is an option when you install [11:37] this might have had something to do with the alternative install [11:37] Well, it is arragneable to make the greeter itself invokable with a command that adds autologin to the config file, is that a solution? [11:38] madnick, i didn't completely follow [11:38] madnick, you mean like adding an option to the greeter? [11:38] Yes [11:39] that would work for me, but i'd say let's have a quick poll about this in the next community meeting [11:39] Because while it would be possible to make a GUI for it, and add to the menu's, that seems more like something XFCE dev perhaps should look into, since the settings window seems like an XFCE thing :P [11:39] yeah [11:39] i added an item to the meeting agenda [11:40] awesome :) [11:40] lightdm is xubuntu-stuff, not xfce [11:40] should be a really quickie though [11:40] madnick, maybe you want to set yourself as the assignee for the autologin stuff anyway [11:40] okay [11:41] mmh, one should talk with the lightdm-dev if you want to build a GUI for that [11:41] it should be callable from the xfce settings manager though [11:42] I *think* (not sure) Ubuntu already has a GUI [11:42] I have to ask why everyone is interested in auto-login, what purpose does that serve beyond something like an internet kiosk with no private information on it? xlock/xdm/etc keep a very minimal amount of security around against 98% of people. [11:42] yeah, we could investigate that too [11:42] primary: my desktop is at home behing locked doors, why not [11:42] Yeah but its based around the default greeter aswell from what i can see [11:42] primary, not everybody is, but if you have a single-user setup for a pc at home, autologin could be ideal [11:43] Hmm, do you live with anyone else? [11:43] primary, well that is something that is kind of meta-talk anyway. do you trust your wife? [11:43] etc... [11:43] No :( [11:44] then you probably won't enable autologin. but if you do, why wouldn't you? [11:44] I haven't *yet* set locks on my laptop.. [11:44] no encrypted bootloader? :\ [11:44] :D [12:40] sorry guys was afk [12:40] Sysi: i cant [12:40] im getting an errror [14:05] how do I get gmusicbrowser to go to next song when current one ends? By default it jumps to some random song from album I don't even have selected [14:05] I don't have shuffle enabled [14:10] I have a problem with panel [14:11] Notification Area work normally but Message applet doesn't seen [14:12] When I minimized to Pidgin, It's closed [14:12] And I can't resolve this [14:13] do you have indicator applet in your panel? [14:29] Thank you Sysi [15:32] how can i change the menu settings? [15:32] i want to change the path of a program [15:32] got it [15:32] sorry [15:35] tjingboem: dont worry, no questions are dumb, except when they really really are [15:35] no, my question stands [15:35] what is that you want to do tjingboem ¿ [15:35] i thought it wab in Panel [15:36] i want to change the menu [15:36] and i do not talk about diner [15:37] well, :P [15:37] but the applications menu [15:38] :D [15:38] yeah i got that [15:38] the thing is, xfce doesnt really have a menu editor [15:38] you can do however, what question 6 suggests: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website/Top10 [15:40] be aware that alacarte pulls half of gnome/compiz/unity with it if you dont do --no-install-recommends [15:41] I played with alacarte a few months ago to do that - it was not completely satisfactory from memory - things I wnated to deal with weren't showing there - just a fyi [15:42] well i never did, its just a thing, usually i just create a launchers box for things i want to do [15:43] I just learnt about those things - assuming them to be what I Think they are - very useful [15:54] well, i like Xubuntu because it is more or less lightweight [15:54] don't wanna get a lot of compiz stuff [15:55] if you put --no-install-recommends then you will just get alacarte [15:55] it works fine [15:56] thanks daz4126_ , sounds good [15:56] i will dig into this [15:57] funny name a la carta [15:57] lol [15:57] a la cart [15:58] really getting hungry now [16:04] should autostart alacarte when i start Xubuntu? [16:09] tjingboem: no. its just an editor [16:10] will the changes be reflected in the Applications menu of Xubuntu? [16:41] tjingboem: they should yes [16:44] seems to be an issue with xfce4-weather-plugin ... doesn't seem to be getting data :( [16:46] "Weather report for: 99."... everything is 99... temp is 99F, wind speed is 99 mph, etc [16:46] pteague_work: thats the weather channel fault [16:47] they changed their xml schema [16:47] and now you have to pay to see how it is or something like that [16:49] but in any case the plugin should be rewritten [16:49] and there are no plans to do so in the near time [16:50] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-November/008038.html [16:51] http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2011-November/029278.html [16:59] I think I saw bug report with solution === CiPi is now known as cipi [17:42] i just installed xubuntu on my eeepc, but network manager shows "device not ready" for the wireless. anyone seen this? [17:45] for some reason the top/bottom toolbars are gone, they were available the last time i booted and now, if i minimize an application etc, it completely vanishes and i can't select it again :/ [17:46] i'm sure i have "save last session" selected [18:36] istok: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [19:33] hey which ones are the sound fds in /dev/ ? i m having trouble finding them [19:34] KaiRun: fds? [19:39] KaiRun, might try /dev/snd/* ? [19:39] i m trying that but i get corrupted fd [19:40] or permission denied even though i m root [19:40] really strange [19:40] KaiRun: what are you trying to do? [19:41] pipe my ouput to some distortion programms [19:41] KaiRun: ouput? [19:41] output [19:41] KaiRun: output from what? [19:42] from the sound fd [19:42] fd? [19:43] file descriptor === baizon_ is now known as baizon [19:43] Hey, I just installed Openoffice, and the autocorrect wont work. The dictionaries are installed, etc etc [19:43] file descriptor is a structure in the memory of a running process that is used to access a file [19:43] any advice? [19:43] it doesn't exist on the disk [19:43] the things on the disk are called files [19:44] so its a no? [19:45] I think ubuntu doesn't have /dev/dsp and such anymore by default [19:45] you might be able to enable them in alsa config somehow though [19:45] hmm [19:46] the ones in /dev/snd are probably more low-level things [19:46] just my guess [19:46] ah, /dev/dsp is for oss [19:48] I think alsa has oss emulation [19:48] alsa-oss [19:49] or you can use padsp in front of your command [19:50] ok i ll try [19:50] tnx [19:53] http://askubuntu.com/questions/11776/missing-dev-dsp-what-do-i-need-to-do-install-for-sound-input-from-mencoder [20:26] can [20:26] can;t enable twinview in 11.10 --- have nvidia recommended drivers loaded [20:46] did dist upgrade to oneiric, it replaced all my fonts with ugly spindly ones [20:46] how do I get the originals back? [20:59] greets === jcfp is now known as Guest56906 [21:29] hi all [21:53] Hey. How do I get the autocorrect to work in Openoffice. Everything is in place, but it just wont work...does anyone have any advice? [22:42] Hey everybody, I've been playing around with some ideas for a xubuntu logo that combines the ubuntu logo with an X [22:42] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17368814/xubuntu-logo.png [22:45] ever since OSX came out everything has to be blue, God I hate blue... anything but blue for me. [22:46] I work hard to get the blue out of my box. [22:47] however I can get the blue out of anything with gimp *smile* [22:47] daz4126: Hey, lets go to #xubuntu-offtopic since it's not support ;) Can talk about it there [22:48] I'll be quiet I promise.... [22:48] sorry [22:49] blue was just the colors on the Xubuntu artwork page [22:49] going into #xubuntu-offtopic [23:54] is there somewhere I can find a xubuntu 11.10 package list?