[00:00] man, I am telling you. Winrar in wine is the way to go [00:00] at least for the crappy ones [00:00] and if it doesnt work, it's not unrar. [00:00] Well f.. I'm not installing wine. [00:00] suit yourself. [00:00] guess you have to wait for reruns. [00:01] wheee [00:01] is it possible they have the wrong extension? [00:02] Tried unzip just now, dunno how to check what file it may "actually" be.. [00:02] i've encountered torrent files like that before, where the finished file is not what it said, like AVI's which are mpg, vice versa [00:02] hallman: try renaming the last part of the file to .zip instead of .rar [00:02] man I am torn. I love KDE, but every time I try it out, I have issues with SOMETHING. This time it is browsing. I like the freedom and flexibility of not using Unity, but I can also get that with Xubuntu. [00:03] cannot find zipfile directory in one of etc [00:03] hallman is it classic rar layout? (.rar, .r01, .r02) [00:03] or whatever [00:03] yes [00:03] and you are selecting the .rar [00:04] (have to ask) [00:04] Selected .rar, .r00, and as I usually do, just the directory. Nothng works. [00:04] can you test the archives? [00:04] I'll install some sfv checker.. one sec [00:04] Yes, I believe unrar has a -t [00:05] unrar -t [00:06] Are you talking about free or nonfree? [00:06] whichever is linked to your unrar command :) [00:06] mine is the free one [00:07] just type unrar -t and follow it with the path to the .rar file you want to test [00:07] Size, packed ratio, etc etc.. Lines... 0 0 0 -nan% [00:08] how big does the rar claim to be? [00:08] the magic question [00:09] Well wtf, 0 bytes.. Isn't this embarrasing.. Why is ktorrent claiming that all dowloaded fine then. :/ [00:09] tone down the language [00:09] Are not even acronymes ok? [00:09] k then.. [00:09] sounds to me like it got corrupted on the way down, maybe the headers got messed up. [00:10] No I got a full disc.. Thought the files were downloaded before that thoug.. [00:10] it happens, i've seen it on P2P services, you finish a file, 100% complete, claims it's 80mb or something and turns out to be 3k or something silly [00:12] Well fine.. Sorry for taking it out on ubuntu I guess.. Like I said, shitty life in general, and ubuntu has caused me enough problems lately so why not take it out on the dist. :/ [00:13] wow he just doesn't get it. [00:14] you can't just say "crappy"? [00:14] and friggin? [00:14] such a simple adjustment [00:14] nor it appears, do you get it :) [00:14] wait, those are bad too? [00:14] are you serious? [00:15] If you wouldn't use it in front of your little brother, don't use it in here :) [00:15] my little brother is 23 ;) [00:15] lol [00:15] you know what I mean [00:15] and I would use it in front of my grandmother,. [00:15] as well as my 5 year old daughter. [00:15] maybe that's just me... lol [00:17] could you imagine your daughter's school calling cause she used one of those words in front of her teacher, and told them she learned it from (daddy, i assume) :)? [00:17] sorry, ex Child social worker this end, forgive me if I seem rude. [00:17] she's homeschooled. [00:18] it's not rude... just really conservative. [00:18] the way I see it, as grown-ups, those words are fine. Why teach that they are bad? [00:18] Offtopic guys :) [00:18] lol [00:19] * Daskreech hugs genii-around [00:19] HE STARTED IT ;) [00:19] sorry genii-around - guess I just can't get the social worker out of me :P [00:20] I'll lay off, apologies [00:20] so with all of this said. I have made up my mind. [00:20] Kubuntu STILL is not ready for me. [00:20] Off to Xubuntu I go.... for now. [00:21] I will lurk here for any help I can provide. [00:21] btw, ikonia - just to let you know, i think you may have just blocked one entire section of a huge student accomodation building in Sweden :) [00:22] i won't tell you how to do your job, you know it better than me, but can he be blocked by nick? is that possible? [00:22] phunyguy: Hey question [00:22] yes Daskreech [00:22] what version of KDE are you running? [00:22] BarkingFish: They just change the nick and come back [00:22] 4.7.2 [00:22] BarkingFish: then they can deal with him [00:23] ok, no problem :) [00:23] phunyguy: Want to try 4.7.3 ? also what version of NM do you have ? [00:24] I can I guess... and as far as NetManager, not sure [00:24] whatever is current for Kubuntu 11.10 [00:26] hahaa virtualbox fail. [00:27] alright, be back in a jiff === OffToHades is now known as BarkingFish [00:58] ciao a tutti [01:02] !it [01:02] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [01:03] My .htaccess isn't working at all.. I don't get it. I entered: sudo a2enmod rewrite and also sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart .. no errors but it doesn't seem to work.. [01:03] I get a 403 forbidden error entering localhost/work/todo where /work/todo should be going to index.php [01:06] Here's the .htaccess http://pastebin.com/zw6g9Xz2 === calcmandan is now known as calcmandan_pre === calcmandan_pre is now known as calcmandan [01:13] ok... mod_rewrite is running.. .htaccess just isn't doing what it should be doing.. [03:17] hello [03:18] i'm having a problem with plasma desktop [03:18] it keeps crashing === jorge is now known as jorge__ === jorge__ is now known as jorge_ === jorge_ is now known as conch === conch is now known as djcrunch [03:46] That BETTER not be the issue. Well I feel sheepish. [03:47] I am behind a security appliance, and it is detecting lots of portscans to and from me for some reason [03:47] i set it to log only instead of drop... xD [03:47] (the issue was still occuring in Xubuntu) === zz_Kalidarn is now known as Kalidarn [04:32] morgen [04:32] :D [04:34] ? [05:54] * new2net is waiting for headers. [06:07] ok [06:15] Could someone be so kind as to tell me when an update for Firefox 8 will be available for Kubuntu 11.04 and what the delay for it is thus far? [06:16] I'm assuming the unusual delay for the update the usual repository is due to Kubuntu 11.10 recently being released. Am i right or wrong? === Kalidarn1 is now known as Kalidarn [06:43] Linuxephus: I'm not sure. I would think that since Firefox insists on all it's updates being called security updates now that FF8 will be available at some point in the main repo but they likely have a semi public PPA that tracks it in a more timely manner [06:45] Ah, my thanks then Daskreech. Judging by your comment, the main repo must be still working on finishing touches to get it packaged properly for the aforementioned main repo. [06:46] I am speaking out of ignorance with regards to that package but it would seem to make sense that if it's a security update (which all FF updates are now) then it would be pushed [06:47] But that doesn't mean they will push it through rapidly unless it's a critical patch. More likely that they will make it available for wider testing and once they are confident enough that it's not a problematic package they will move it for general use for people who don't care [06:47] As for semi public PPA's, even the Ubuntuzilla PPA has yet to have it packaged. [06:49] Agreed in concern to your statement about possible testing. That sounds about right considering the time delays for it thus far. [06:50] I thought as much myself, but wanted to double check what others might know of it as well. All in all, the delay makes sense if they're testing all of the above mentioned. [06:51] My thanks for the input by the way Daskreech. [06:53] Linuxephus: You can ask in #ubuntu-devel (or check the Firefox launchpad page) if you want more info [06:54] I'll head on over to the Firefox launchpad page as a matter of fact Daskreech. Thanks once again for the enlightening information. I bid you goodnight. [06:55] Good night [07:06] Daskreech: You were right. FF8 is delayed until somewhere after the 17th of this month due to packaging testing for Kubuntu 11.04, including major changes being prepared for those still running FF3.6.x releases. Which readily explains certain delays in 11.04 on back. [07:07] Ah same day KDE gets tagged for 4.8 beta release :) [07:08] Interesting you should mention that (so much for "goodnight"...LOLing). I'm still waiting for them to backport KDE 4.7 for the 11.04 series. === lolcat is now known as lstarnes3 === lstarnes3 is now known as lolcat [07:32] hello! can anyone help me out setting up a samba share so I can stream stuff to xbmc on an xbox? thanks in advance! === ubuntu-10__ is now known as rita === rita is now known as rita` === ocs is now known as ocs1 === calcmandan is now known as calcmandan_pre === calcmandan_pre is now known as calcmandan === s is now known as Guest44705 === basti2 is now known as basti [10:30] how to use kmail for Live Mail? [10:32] Does anybody can help me? === marc is now known as Guest45807 [10:56] network manager plamoid is not fully translated in italian..who do i have to ask? === adrien_ is now known as Guest89251 [11:45] i'm currently on Ubuntu 11.04.. i rolled back from 11.10 because of compatibility issues. Will I see the same issues with the latest Kubuntu release? [11:47] should i go with 11.10 or stick with 10.04 === vincent is now known as Guest26146 [12:29] KPackageKit problem: when I click the "Software updates" icon I always get an error "An unknown error has happened". What should I do? [12:31] hi, why can't I edit the apps menu in oneiric? [12:32] I mean the apps displayed by the standard "K" launcher? [12:34] I can launch the menu editor and add my own items, they seem to be saved without errors, but unlike on previous releases -- they never appear in the menu [12:35] KPackageKit further problem: the "search" text entry box is permanently disabled. Can anyone help? [12:50] Hey all [12:55] Ok, KPackageKit problem solved. I ran apt-get update, which failed but which told me the commands to run to fix it. [13:08] I have a problem with my sound. When I plug in my headphone into my laptop, the laptop speakers don't turn off. I need to open alsamixer and manually reduce the speaker volume. Is it a known bug? [13:18] adarshajoisa, yes I'm afraid so , it's different each case as well [13:19] ada do yo still have pulse audio installed. if so install the pavucontrol ..it gives more options [13:19] adarshajoisa,^ [13:19] BluesKaj: :( That's a major inconvenience. [13:19] BluesKaj: ok. will try that. === vincent is now known as Guest50466 === Kalidarn1 is now known as Kalidarn === niels_ is now known as nielsbusch === Kalidarn is now known as zz_Kalidarn === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T === zkriesse is now known as DjZerxes [16:18] hi i've got nvidia and intel graphics card on my notebook. how can i use nvidia card with full 3d support? === dima is now known as barsik [16:28] snikker: Do you have the nvidia proprietary drivers installed? [16:28] genii-around: yes i've got it, installed from ubuntu repository === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [16:42] Greetings All. Can anyone help me in installing new themes please? Am I right in thinking I cant install ubuntu themes for kubuntu? Also, after downloading the themes,what would be the next step? Thanks [16:43] Ubuntu themes won't work on Kubuntu apps. [16:43] Thanks.. can you tell me how to install kubuntu themes that I downloaded please? === peace is now known as Peace- [16:51] chaitu, it's better to use the integrated download button [16:51] KickOff > search "styles" === DjZerxes is now known as zkriesse [17:44] hi. why is it that i boot on my gnu/linux os successfully once every two times? anyone can help.. thanks [17:45] Is your boot drive some RAID1 with a failed drive? [17:46] i dont know that how can i see? [17:48] my hdd is a ata i think [17:51] hey guys, i have recently upgraded to 11.10 and i'm experiencing the same problems as these guys. i was wondering if anyone knew a fix to this issue, as it's really bugging me :( [17:53] rockprincess, what guys ? [17:53] ooopsie sorry, i forgot to paste the link [17:53] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11462572 [17:53] can anyone help? thanks [17:54] it really annoys me so much [17:54] the playback and the audio worked perfectly fine before the upgrade to 11.10 :( [17:55] rockprincess, played back fine in which player ? [17:55] adi11: The times when it doesn't boot, how far along does it get? [17:55] BluesKaj: doesn't matter, I've tried Dragon, VLC and the flash in firefox..... [17:55] BluesKaj: same symptoms. [17:56] Genii-around : about 1min 30 sec. than it load the os [17:56] BluesKaj: Amarok doesn't playback any sound at all. speakers are NOT on mute (i've triple checked ;)) [17:57] it just stays there on kubuntu logo with white dotsthan i can hear hdd normal noise that is loading [17:57] rockprincess, pls describe your symptoms and not someone else's , we need to know your details only [17:58] adi11: So it actually does boot successfully every time but every second time it takes 90 seconds longer? [17:58] the times that fail, is like white dots loading than black screen and all you see is busy box and intramfs [17:58] ok rockprincess , no sound at all or just none on amarok ? [17:58] no. it boots succesfully once in two. [17:58] BluesKaj: ok, the symptoms are: the video plays in double speed, people move faster than they should. and I don't hear any audio at all. it's silent. [17:59] BluesKaj: absolutely no sound on Dragon, vlc, and Amarok....I can test it in audacity too, if it helps prove my symptoms ;) [18:00] first boot it fails and sends me on busybox initramfs. than i do a ctrl+alt+del. and it restarts. than second time it takes like 1min 30 sec but it finally load the os. [18:00] adi11: Could you please pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg ( assuming you are on GRUB2) [18:01] !pastebin [18:01] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [18:01] ok [18:02] rockprincess, have you checked you test in phonon/device preference and while you're there , is pulseaudio installed? [18:02] BluesKaj: thank you, i will check immediately! [18:03] genii-around : http://paste.ubuntu.com/740436/ [18:03] i dont know if my grub is ver 2. i am on kubuntu 11.10 kernel 3.0.013 [18:07] i dont know if this helps... i am on a hp dv 6700. dual boot win7/kubuntu. 3 gb ram, nvidia card. installed proprietary drivers for nvidia from kubuntu. [18:09] adi11: OK. Your grub.cfg file looks fine. Can you pstebin now your /etc/fstab [18:09] BluesKaj: ok, the phonon/device preference seems ok. i have hear the test sounds...apt-get says the latest version of pulseaudio is installed. [18:09] ok [18:10] BluesKaj: but i still have the same problem with video playback and sound. [18:11] genii-around : http://paste.ubuntu.com/740441/ [18:12] rockprincess, , the video problem is a new bug that I don't know how to fix , the audio may just be an unloaded sound module. cat /proc/asound/modules [18:13] adi11: That too looks in order. [18:14] Is there anyone here that went to SELF this past year? [18:14] so what is causing all this. i can t boot successfully every time. [18:14] BluesKay: output says: 0 snd_hda_intel 1 snd_hda_intel 29 thinkpad_acpi [18:14] my win7 boot far more faster than ubuntu [18:15] and it should be the opposite [18:16] BluesKaj: you somehow fixed my audio problem, at least i can now play music in Amarok....thanks sooo much :) [18:16] genii-around : do you need to see any other file output? [18:17] rockprincess, ok, now , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel [18:18] BluesKaj: ok done, this just loads the sound module, right? there shouldnt be an output from that?! [18:18] no [18:19] rockprincess, then open /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with root permissions, add this line at the bottom , options snd_hda_intel index=0 [18:20] that line makes the intel card your default at boot , rockprincess , it should work inall your players after you reboot [18:21] adi11: Apologies on lag, trying to assist while at work here. No other files for the moment. You might try to rebuild your initrd by: sudo update-initramfs -u [18:21] After upgrade to Kubuntu 11.10 I'm having problems with the appls: kradio4 and alsamixergui work only as root. Tvtime, trhough CX88 driver don't syntonize any channel. Does someone has any idea why? [18:23] BluesKaj: wonderful, shall I put a # comment tag in front of this line then? options snd-usb-audio index=-2 or is this being ignored anyway since the intel card is loaded first (index=0) [18:24] index=-2 means it's not used , so no comment needed [18:24] genii-around : thanks for helping. if this might help. when it hangs on some times it goes on tty and there i can see some output from the sys. i see a lot of "ata1 device is slow to respond" and than error [18:25] BluesKaj: ok, cool! i will reboot now.....do you have any idea, why this was ignored/overwritten when i upgraded to 11.10? [18:25] adi11: That may be a hardware issue also. [18:26] on my hdd? [18:26] rockprincess, no , but it's a common problem with the intel audio , but fixable [18:27] BluesKaj: I think my video problem could be related to a driver problem as well..?! [18:27] adi11: Can be the HD is developing bad areas, or that the controller is experiencing problems. You might want to check BIOS and see that boot order is like: CD, hard drive you have kubuntu on, other stuff below this [18:28] adi11: Also maybe check in there about S.M.A.R.T. reporting ( when HD senses it is going bad and tells the computer) [18:28] rockprincess, I don't have any idea [18:28] ok i will do that. but my cd does not workand i think i have disable it in bios. [18:29] hi [18:30] krename segfault on startup. I found a thread identifying the problem and it seems to be fixed in 4.0.7-2. Kubuntu 11.10 ships with 4.0.7-1. Is there a fix coming for ubuntu ? [18:30] geni-around : where can i see this SMART reporting? [18:30] (it was 4.0.7-2 for fedora in that thread though) [18:30] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684908 [18:30] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 684908 in krename "[abrt] krename-4.0.6-2.fc15: ref: Process /usr/bin/krename was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)" [Unspecified,Closed: errata] [18:33] adi11: There is in BIOS usually only a feature to either have it on or off. When it's on and HD is failing, computer will usually pause before bootloader and give a message about it. [18:33] adi11: Where to find it in your BIOS varys from machine to machine [18:34] Work, back in a few [18:34] ok thanks geni-around :) [18:34] also [18:34] !info smartmontools [18:34] smartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 5.41+svn3365-1 (oneiric), package size 444 kB, installed size 1284 kB [18:49] Trying to create new mail folders in kontact silently fails. Any ideas what the problem might be? [18:55] Hi [18:55] guys I am facing quite a few problems on kubuntu 11.10 off late [18:56] the sound of the system goes out randomly and then [18:56] when irun a video file , the player will hang [18:56] same case while watching youtube [18:56] also the desktop shell has crashed one time too mnay [18:56] on me after the 4.7.3 update [18:57] why is all this happening? [19:14] anyone know if it's possible to downgrade KDE? i put 4.7.3 on and it's quite clearly busted. There's bugs filing left right and center over plasma-desktop keep dying. [19:17] BarkingFish: sure. jsut remove kde take out your KDE 4.7.3 repos and reinstall [19:17] is there a way that doesn't involve removing the whole of KDE? [19:19] !info kdebase oneiric [19:19] Package kdebase does not exist in oneiric [19:19] !info kdebase4 oneiric [19:19] Package kdebase4 does not exist in oneiric [19:19] !kde [19:19] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. [19:22] OK, is 4.7.3 the current End user version of KDE on oneiric? [19:22] I hope i've not installed a development version or something [19:23] !info kdebase-runtime [19:23] kdebase-runtime (source: kde-runtime): Transitional package for the KDE runtime components. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 8 kB, installed size 80 kB [19:23] right, so I have got a development version. [19:23] * BarkingFish growls [19:23] i've now got to find which repository I got it from and take it off. [19:24] Probably somewhere like kubuntu-ppa-experimental [19:24] righty ho, i'll look [19:26] i got it from the kubuntu ppa, i have two, one is main, one is backports. [19:26] both of those can now go, while I fix this failure on my part. [19:26] So how do I completely uninstall KDE? [19:28] right, got instructions. back later. [19:40] chromium not available in kubuntu sources? [19:41] caesar__: should be [19:41] only been on it 10 minutes so i'm still new [19:41] caesar__, chromium-browser [19:41] sudo apt-getinstall chromium-browse [19:41] !info chromium-browser [19:41] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 14.0.835.202~r103287-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 19059 kB, installed size 70224 kB [19:41] i was looking in software center [19:41] "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser" I mean [19:43] But now another question, what happens if you click this address: foo@bar.tld (Somehow when I open mail adresses it opens an composer window - but it doesn't fill in the address, is this just me or for everyone? ) [19:43] I know a workaround for that, but I'm wondring if that's a general bug [19:46] caesar__: try refresh sources [19:47] i see it now [19:49] is there a way to pull up all vdesktops on one screen [19:51] caesar__, slide your cursor to the upper left hand corner [19:51] niice [19:52] i gotta learn all the tricks [19:52] just switched from ubuntu today.. [19:52] Ctrl+F8 [19:52] i gotta say this is way cleaner === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [19:53] and sexier [19:54] \o/ sexy [19:54] Everynow and again I will put my animation on to ridiculously slow just to see it unfold :) [19:55] mirrakor_: Opens with the email for me [19:55] evening guys. Right, this is turning into a fair old adventure [19:55] I really need help [19:55] * BluesKaj shakes his head ....sexy ? [19:55] 1888helpme [19:55] I've deleted most of the 4.7.3 parts of kde, killed kdm and i'm in irssi - I am still seeing bits of kde 4.7.3 in the system and I can't get rid of them. [19:55] BluesKaj: You don't really get to decide what constitutes as that :) [19:56] BarkingFish: sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 && sudo apt-get autoremove [19:56] Daskreech: excellent :) [19:56] BarkingFish: yes, sexy [19:56] one sec while I switch ttys [19:56] i has a visual orgasm after i installed [19:56] had* [19:57] lol more than possibly we needed to know but I think that was the intent [19:57] well that didn't work. [19:57] BarkingFish, , hope you removed the ppas from source.list.d [19:57] It says kdelibs5 isn't installed, so it's not been removed [19:57] BluesKaj: I did [19:57] good [19:57] Daskreech: by animations are you speaking of compiz? [19:58] but I'm still seeing a lot of kdeprogs like Kamera and stuff at 4.7.3 in aptitude [19:58] caesar__: Kwin [19:58] is that similar? [19:58] Yes [19:58] it also tells me I have "held broken packages" when I try to install anything [19:58] what have you held? [19:59] nothing to my knowledge [19:59] i had that error when trying to install packages that were from an earlier distro [19:59] not compatible with current version [20:01] kwin gonna be my new favorite app [20:01] Daskreech: how do I find out if anything is held? [20:02] caesar__: It's pretty sweet. Wait till you learn alt+ctrl+A [20:02] update sources? [20:02] Daskreech: it's not doing anything? [20:03] maybe it knows i havn't learned it yet.. lol [20:03] caesar__: anytime something is flashing in the taskbar it will jump you to it [20:03] very useful. very addicitve [20:08] * caesar__ is patiently waiting for notification [20:08] lol [20:09] * BarkingFish sighs deeply [20:09] this is not going well. [20:09] * genii-around twitches [20:10] all i have is a cli and a program i don't know how to use in order to sort my pc out :( [20:10] * Resistance slaps genii-around for twitching [20:11] Resistance: I blame it on caffeine overload today. 11th mug of coffee. [20:11] do I need to uninstall everything which is related to kde 4.7.3 as well as kde itself? [20:11] genii-around: i'm on my 8th triple espresso, and i havent exploded :P [20:11] genii-around: join the club. I've had more caffeine than food today [20:12] * Resistance has had enough caffeine to kill a normal human [20:12] if you've had more than 1000mg of caffeine, you're doing well === reisi_ is now known as reisi [20:13] anyway, i just need to get kde 4.7.2 back and i'm done, any ideas? [20:14] BarkingFish: do you have kdebase ? [20:15] caesar__: does this work ? [20:15] yep [20:15] Daskreech: no [20:15] nice touch [20:15] genii-around: can you get a list of held packages? [20:15] i tried to install it, Daskreech and got told it's been obsoleted - something else refers to it, but it's not present [20:16] unless i'm using the wrong package name [20:16] BarkingFish: did you remove the kde 4.7.3 repos ? [20:16] yes [20:16] i know where i went wrong, i had the ppa from neon and also kubuntu's proposed ppa on too [20:17] both gone, as are all my other 3rd party repositories. history. [20:17] from now on, if kubuntu don't issue it, i'm not installing it. shoot this for a game of soldiers, i'm not going through it again :) [20:18] For the records: it was just a firefox problem, not sure how it works for default, but I had to manually add "kmail --composer %s" for mailto:-links [20:18] odd , only have a few issues with kde , but some are really annoying [20:19] BluesKaj: this one was a pest, i've seen more bugs filed against plasma-desktop on 4.7.3 than i have against pretty much anything else. a [20:19] *and that's only in the last couple of days [20:20] just upgraded my other pc to 12.04 ...sems fine , sound even works without pulseaudio ...happiness! [20:20] BarkingFish: maybe just be more careful of what you have and keep on :) [20:20] I've installed software from a PPA then disabled it right after before [20:20] Daskreech: the problem is, one of the progs I want and need is only issued from a ppa [20:20] caesar__: isn't it? [20:21] BarkingFish: so install it then disable the PPA unless that's the only thing in the PPA [20:21] SynCE, for syncing my WM2003 iPAQ to KDE [20:21] then I don't get the updates [20:21] catch 22. [20:22] BarkingFish: if it's the only thing in the PPA that's fine [20:22] ok then, it'll go back. [20:22] When I get KDE reinstalled.... [20:22] It's when you have huge PPAs that's an issue [20:22] BarkingFish: You could go crazy and remove X :) [20:23] i'm still getting told I've held broken packages. [20:24] I've held nothing whatsoever. I don't understand this. [20:24] I just want my GUI back. [20:24] * BarkingFish sits and shakes in the corner. [20:24] I don't like working on a CLI. [20:26] BarkingFish: This looks interesting [20:26] BarkingFish: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/ [20:27] which I can't open, since I'm in a cli, and have no DM to run a browser off :) [20:27] !puregnoem [20:27] BarkingFish: you have w3m [20:27] cause UNIX is amazing!! [20:27] There's also links [20:27] !info links [20:27] links (source: links2): Web browser running in text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3~pre1-1build1 (oneiric), package size 520 kB, installed size 1284 kB [20:28] what I need is someone first to help me fix this package issue, which i don't understand [20:28] I'm sorry if I seem desperate, that may be because I am. [20:29] i don't have a clue how to use aptitude, i'm essentially lost on a text only terminal. [20:33] BarkingFish: what the command yo uare using? [20:34] Daskreech: apt-get install kdebase-workspace [20:35] or apt-get install kde* take your pick [20:35] none of them work [20:35] dpkg --get-selections | grep hold should show you whatever's on hold [20:35] BarkingFish: what's broken [20:35] i get the same error every time - it wants to install 4.7.3 [20:35] Resistance: you can take your choice, it's all good :P [20:36] yet I have no 4.7.3 repos in my list, no backports, nothing [20:36] BarkingFish: so basically your entire system is broken? [20:36] :P [20:36] Resistance: i have no KDE, I cannot reinstall kde because the system claims I've held broken packages [20:36] BarkingFish: does genii-around's command give you anything ? [20:36] when in fact, I've held precisely squat [20:37] BarkingFish: i take it backup/reinstall is not an option? [20:37] not an option [20:37] i had enough trouble getting 11.10 on here the first time round, i'm not doing it again :) [20:37] :-) [20:37] BarkingFish: 11.04 isnt an option? :P [20:37] * Resistance never upgraded for this reason :P [20:37] Daskreech: read that, can't use it cause I can't copypaste all the stuff off the webpage [20:38] BarkingFish: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold [20:38] Resistance: i'd rather not go back to natty. [20:38] ok Daskreech - one moment [20:38] returns nothing [20:40] all this to downgrade because one package is borked [20:42] hi [20:43] BarkingFish: sudo rm /var/cache/apt ..which wipes out pkgcache.bin srcpkgcache.bin .. then update and see if it still says about held broken packages [20:43] /var/cache/apt/* rather [20:44] ok, i'll have a go, i'm just taking out all the other stuff in aptitude showing under KDE / main with a 4.7.3 on the version [20:44] i think i've figured it out. possibly. [20:44] i hope [20:48] ok, i'm still getting the broken package errors [20:49]