[04:46] <MTecknology> So.. is 12.04 stable yet!?
[04:46] <MTecknology> :P
[04:49] <urlin2u> MTecknology, it has not been released that is when it is considered stable officially.
[04:50] <MTecknology> urlin2u: you didn't catch the joking part, did you? I'm upgrading my system to it now
[04:52] <urlin2u> MTecknology, it wasn't funny have you spent much time on this channel. :D
[04:53] <urlin2u> I missed your members badge hehe
[04:53] <MTecknology> :)
[04:53] <MTecknology> i meant to be funny anyway
[12:21] <hrw> hi
[12:21] <hrw> someone here is using gwibber with twitter?
[12:49] <iceroot> hrw: you are using 12.04?
[12:50] <hrw> yes
[12:50] <hrw> otherwise I would not be here
[12:52] <iceroot> hrw: and you have a real question instead of "someone is using foobar"?
[12:52] <hrw> yes - bug 835202
[14:45] <zniavre> good afternoon
[14:46] <zniavre> is precise update-able right now ?
[14:46] <zniavre> last update was last week for me
[15:41] <cjwatson> zniavre: it shouldn't be too bad at the moment, although there are still odds and ends of the Perl 5.14 transition in progress
[15:41] <cjwatson> depending on your architecture
[15:42] <cjwatson> evolution-data-server was uninstallable on amd64 for a short while there so you might have problems if you're running amd64 depending on exactly how up-to-date your mirror is
[15:58] <genii-around> Some apps are looking pretty odd under KDE, especially Firefox ... a few screen pics here to illustrate:  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=184330
[16:16] <obelus> Well, unless it's changed in the last few hours, xchat is still unresolvable, I had to reinstall with dpkg -i --force-depends
[16:20] <obelus> nvm. xchat is now fixed
[16:42] <cjwatson> obelus: yeah, I knew I'd uploaded that one
[16:43] <cjwatson> obelus: using --force-depends is kind of silly though :)
[16:43] <cjwatson> if a package is depending on the old libperl and you force it, there's a good chance it won't even stsart
[16:43] <cjwatson> *start
[16:45] <obelus> :P but it worked fine
[16:52] <cjwatson> obelus: it's just poor practice; sometimes you might get lucky, yes
[16:52] <cjwatson> but I strongly advise against it as a habit
[16:54] <cjwatson> it's better to watch the upgrade process and avoid removing packages you care about
[16:55] <cjwatson> (though of course I'm trying to keep it so you don't need to very much, but unresolvable dependencies do happen from time to time)
[16:55] <obelus> I know they do :P it's what I get for staying in the development branch
[17:00] <cjwatson> *grumble* It would help if powerpc would catch up a bit.
[17:01] <obelus> I don't have the opportunity to try Ubuntu on powerpc
[17:02] <obelus> Eh... I just posted a bug to network-manager. I just realised it uploaded an 800k attachment with names of all my wireless networks, and my username on my college network... lol.
[17:02] <cjwatson> It's not that, it's that it's easier for me to manage the perl transition with architectures more in sync
[17:02] <obelus> and my ISP's dns servers.
[17:03] <obelus> Ah... how's powerpc going?
[17:04] <cjwatson> network-manager> if it contains that sort of data then I would have thought the bug would have been automatically marked private
[17:04] <cjwatson> ?
[17:04] <cjwatson> powerpc builder queue is 6.5 hours; it'll get there, it's just a bit sluggish
[17:05] <obelus> Not that I can see, how do I tell?
[17:07] <cjwatson> if it's private then the web interface will say "The information on this page is private" across the top, and "This report is private" with a padlock icon on the right
[17:07] <cjwatson> er, with a pencil icon that is
[17:07] <cjwatson> (the padlock's on top)
[17:07] <BluesKaj> has the upgrade OS command changed , do-release-upgrade -d doesn't seem to activate any repos
[17:07] <cjwatson> BluesKaj: it may not have been switched on for precise yet
[17:08] <cjwatson> we explicitly enable it once it's out of actual eats-all-your-kittens mode (usually around alpha 1)
[17:08] <BluesKaj> someppl are running precise already , is there a an image available ?
[17:09] <cjwatson> there are daily builds, and it's possible to upgrade by manually editing sources.list and using apt-get
[17:09] <obelus> I'm running precise, but all I did was use sed to change oneiric to precise in sources.list
[17:09] <obelus> cjwatson, it doesn't say private anywhere that I can see on the page
[17:10] <cjwatson> (I kind of prefer not to give explicit instructions at this point because you may need to know how to get out of problems)
[17:10] <cjwatson> obelus: oh.  you can mark it private, although it's probably already gone out to ubuntu-bugs ... although none of the information you described sounds terribly sensitive really
[17:11] <cjwatson> (sorry, I seem to have misread username as password earlier :-) )
[17:12] <BluesKaj> ok thanks cjwatson , obelus , but i moved the ppas from source.list.d already , but no luck
[17:12] <obelus> :P I won't bother marking it as sensitive, just slightly annoys me that it gives away my general location and my surname.
[17:12] <obelus> BluesKaj, here's what I did: Changed oneiric to precise in every line of the file, and run update. But I give absolutely NO guarantee as to how it'll leave your system.
[17:14] <BluesKaj> obelus, what's that sed  command again , I used to have it but dropped it because I thoght it it was too dangerous
[17:15] <BluesKaj> obelus, I'll be doing the upgrade on my "test " machine , no worries
[17:15] <obelus> BluesKaj, kinda forgot the exact line... not proficient enough with sed to know it off the top of my head, so easy way is loading gedit and pressing ctrl+h (find and replace)
[17:16] <obelus> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:16] <BluesKaj> NM , I think it's in my other cli cmnds textfile anyway
[17:17] <BluesKaj> well here goes ...I'll check in on the other pc
[17:37] <obelus> Quick question
[17:37] <obelus> If I run dist-upgrade -d on my 10.04 server, will it give me a choice before upgrading?
[17:40] <Ian_Corne> it should
[17:40] <micahg> obelus: for servers the preferred upgrade method is do-release-upgrade -d, but idk if that's available yet
[17:41] <obelus> er, I meant do-release-upgrade
[17:41] <obelus> I keep type dist- instead
[17:41] <obelus> I dont know why
[17:48] <obelus> Why does do-release-upgrade want to start another SSH server on a different port?
[17:51] <obelus> Yay. Couldnt upgrade because it couldnt calculate it.
[18:05] <patdk-wk> obelus, cause ssh needs to be killed?
[18:05] <patdk-wk> so it starts another copy of ssh elsewhere
[18:20] <cjwatson> patdk-wk: which is odd, because upgrading openssh-server does not take down running SSH sessions
[18:22] <patdk-wk> hopefully not :)
[18:34] <aranwe> aranwe
[18:34] <aranwe> aaaa
[21:41] <TerminX> anyone know anything about a problem where the system boots up and the runlevel never gets set so none of your services start up?  I did a clean install with the oneiric server iso a couple of days ago, upgraded it to precise, transferred the package state from another box that was already running precise with dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections, ran apt-get dselect-upgrade and now when the system boots,
[21:41] <TerminX>  /sbin/runlevel just says "unknown"
[21:42] <TerminX> anything I've found on google so far has either been 4 or 5 year old tips that don't seem relevant anymore, instructions for editing packaged scripts to try and resolve it or stupid comments that aren't helpful at all
[21:45] <GTRsdk> Has anyone else been experiencing slow wifi issues?
[21:45] <GTRsdk> I have a Broadcom card and the wifi isn't as fast as on older Ubuntu releases
[22:03] <edgy> hi, I set kde numbers in systemsettings to arabic digits or other digit systems but still the numbers are the same as 1 2 3 4