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MTecknologySo.. is 12.04 stable yet!?04:46
MTecknology:P04:46
urlin2uMTecknology, it has not been released that is when it is considered stable officially.04:49
MTecknologyurlin2u: you didn't catch the joking part, did you? I'm upgrading my system to it now04:50
urlin2uMTecknology, it wasn't funny have you spent much time on this channel. :D04:52
urlin2uI missed your members badge hehe04:53
MTecknology:)04:53
MTecknologyi meant to be funny anyway04:53
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hrwhi12:21
hrwsomeone here is using gwibber with twitter?12:21
iceroothrw: you are using 12.04?12:49
hrwyes12:50
hrwotherwise I would not be here12:50
iceroothrw: and you have a real question instead of "someone is using foobar"?12:52
hrwyes - bug 83520212:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 835202 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "gwibber not refreshing twitter timeline" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83520212:52
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zniavregood afternoon14:45
zniavreis precise update-able right now ?14:46
zniavrelast update was last week for me14:46
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cjwatsonzniavre: it shouldn't be too bad at the moment, although there are still odds and ends of the Perl 5.14 transition in progress15:41
cjwatsondepending on your architecture15:41
cjwatsonevolution-data-server was uninstallable on amd64 for a short while there so you might have problems if you're running amd64 depending on exactly how up-to-date your mirror is15:42
genii-aroundSome apps are looking pretty odd under KDE, especially Firefox ... a few screen pics here to illustrate:  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=18433015:58
obelusWell, unless it's changed in the last few hours, xchat is still unresolvable, I had to reinstall with dpkg -i --force-depends16:16
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obelusnvm. xchat is now fixed16:20
cjwatsonobelus: yeah, I knew I'd uploaded that one16:42
cjwatsonobelus: using --force-depends is kind of silly though :)16:43
cjwatsonif a package is depending on the old libperl and you force it, there's a good chance it won't even stsart16:43
cjwatson*start16:43
obelus:P but it worked fine16:45
cjwatsonobelus: it's just poor practice; sometimes you might get lucky, yes16:52
cjwatsonbut I strongly advise against it as a habit16:52
cjwatsonit's better to watch the upgrade process and avoid removing packages you care about16:54
cjwatson(though of course I'm trying to keep it so you don't need to very much, but unresolvable dependencies do happen from time to time)16:55
obelusI know they do :P it's what I get for staying in the development branch16:55
cjwatson*grumble* It would help if powerpc would catch up a bit.17:00
obelusI don't have the opportunity to try Ubuntu on powerpc17:01
obelusEh... I just posted a bug to network-manager. I just realised it uploaded an 800k attachment with names of all my wireless networks, and my username on my college network... lol.17:02
cjwatsonIt's not that, it's that it's easier for me to manage the perl transition with architectures more in sync17:02
obelusand my ISP's dns servers.17:02
obelusAh... how's powerpc going?17:03
cjwatsonnetwork-manager> if it contains that sort of data then I would have thought the bug would have been automatically marked private17:04
cjwatson?17:04
cjwatsonpowerpc builder queue is 6.5 hours; it'll get there, it's just a bit sluggish17:04
obelusNot that I can see, how do I tell?17:05
cjwatsonif it's private then the web interface will say "The information on this page is private" across the top, and "This report is private" with a padlock icon on the right17:07
cjwatsoner, with a pencil icon that is17:07
cjwatson(the padlock's on top)17:07
BluesKajhas the upgrade OS command changed , do-release-upgrade -d doesn't seem to activate any repos17:07
cjwatsonBluesKaj: it may not have been switched on for precise yet17:07
cjwatsonwe explicitly enable it once it's out of actual eats-all-your-kittens mode (usually around alpha 1)17:08
BluesKajsomeppl are running precise already , is there a an image available ?17:08
cjwatsonthere are daily builds, and it's possible to upgrade by manually editing sources.list and using apt-get17:09
obelusI'm running precise, but all I did was use sed to change oneiric to precise in sources.list17:09
obeluscjwatson, it doesn't say private anywhere that I can see on the page17:09
cjwatson(I kind of prefer not to give explicit instructions at this point because you may need to know how to get out of problems)17:10
cjwatsonobelus: oh.  you can mark it private, although it's probably already gone out to ubuntu-bugs ... although none of the information you described sounds terribly sensitive really17:10
cjwatson(sorry, I seem to have misread username as password earlier :-) )17:11
BluesKajok thanks cjwatson , obelus , but i moved the ppas from source.list.d already , but no luck17:12
obelus:P I won't bother marking it as sensitive, just slightly annoys me that it gives away my general location and my surname.17:12
obelusBluesKaj, here's what I did: Changed oneiric to precise in every line of the file, and run update. But I give absolutely NO guarantee as to how it'll leave your system.17:12
BluesKajobelus, what's that sed  command again , I used to have it but dropped it because I thoght it it was too dangerous17:14
BluesKajobelus, I'll be doing the upgrade on my "test " machine , no worries17:15
obelusBluesKaj, kinda forgot the exact line... not proficient enough with sed to know it off the top of my head, so easy way is loading gedit and pressing ctrl+h (find and replace)17:15
obelussudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list17:16
BluesKajNM , I think it's in my other cli cmnds textfile anyway17:16
BluesKajwell here goes ...I'll check in on the other pc17:17
obelusQuick question17:37
obelusIf I run dist-upgrade -d on my 10.04 server, will it give me a choice before upgrading?17:37
Ian_Corneit should17:40
micahgobelus: for servers the preferred upgrade method is do-release-upgrade -d, but idk if that's available yet17:40
obeluser, I meant do-release-upgrade17:41
obelusI keep type dist- instead17:41
obelusI dont know why17:41
obelusWhy does do-release-upgrade want to start another SSH server on a different port?17:48
obelusYay. Couldnt upgrade because it couldnt calculate it.17:51
patdk-wkobelus, cause ssh needs to be killed?18:05
patdk-wkso it starts another copy of ssh elsewhere18:05
cjwatsonpatdk-wk: which is odd, because upgrading openssh-server does not take down running SSH sessions18:20
patdk-wkhopefully not :)18:22
aranwearanwe18:34
aranweaaaa18:34
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TerminXanyone know anything about a problem where the system boots up and the runlevel never gets set so none of your services start up?  I did a clean install with the oneiric server iso a couple of days ago, upgraded it to precise, transferred the package state from another box that was already running precise with dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections, ran apt-get dselect-upgrade and now when the system boots,21:41
TerminX /sbin/runlevel just says "unknown"21:41
TerminXanything I've found on google so far has either been 4 or 5 year old tips that don't seem relevant anymore, instructions for editing packaged scripts to try and resolve it or stupid comments that aren't helpful at all21:42
GTRsdkHas anyone else been experiencing slow wifi issues?21:45
GTRsdkI have a Broadcom card and the wifi isn't as fast as on older Ubuntu releases21:45
edgyhi, I set kde numbers in systemsettings to arabic digits or other digit systems but still the numbers are the same as 1 2 3 422:03

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