=== pdq2 is now known as pdq === jason is now known as Guest66271 === Guest66271 is now known as jasef === Logan__ is now known as Guest84675 === Guest84675 is now known as Logan_ [04:46] So.. is 12.04 stable yet!? [04:46] :P [04:49] MTecknology, it has not been released that is when it is considered stable officially. [04:50] urlin2u: you didn't catch the joking part, did you? I'm upgrading my system to it now [04:52] MTecknology, it wasn't funny have you spent much time on this channel. :D [04:53] I missed your members badge hehe [04:53] :) [04:53] i meant to be funny anyway === lolcat is now known as lstarnes3 === lstarnes3 is now known as lolcat === jason is now known as Guest35720 === Guest35720 is now known as jasef === jason is now known as Guest78728 === jason is now known as Guest2138 === croppa is now known as croppa_ === Guest2138 is now known as jasef === gnomitsu is now known as Guest46802 [12:21] hi [12:21] someone here is using gwibber with twitter? [12:49] hrw: you are using 12.04? [12:50] yes [12:50] otherwise I would not be here [12:52] hrw: and you have a real question instead of "someone is using foobar"? [12:52] yes - bug 835202 [12:52] Launchpad bug 835202 in gwibber (Ubuntu) "gwibber not refreshing twitter timeline" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835202 === Guest46802 is now known as gnomie === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle === aj00200_ is now known as aj00200 === MichealH` is now known as MichealH === jasef is now known as semicolon [14:45] good afternoon [14:46] is precise update-able right now ? [14:46] last update was last week for me === Lynx is now known as Guest97124 === semicolon is now known as obelus === Tm_K is now known as Tm_T [15:41] zniavre: it shouldn't be too bad at the moment, although there are still odds and ends of the Perl 5.14 transition in progress [15:41] depending on your architecture [15:42] evolution-data-server was uninstallable on amd64 for a short while there so you might have problems if you're running amd64 depending on exactly how up-to-date your mirror is [15:58] Some apps are looking pretty odd under KDE, especially Firefox ... a few screen pics here to illustrate: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=184330 [16:16] Well, unless it's changed in the last few hours, xchat is still unresolvable, I had to reinstall with dpkg -i --force-depends === Lynx is now known as Guest94415 [16:20] nvm. xchat is now fixed [16:42] obelus: yeah, I knew I'd uploaded that one [16:43] obelus: using --force-depends is kind of silly though :) [16:43] if a package is depending on the old libperl and you force it, there's a good chance it won't even stsart [16:43] *start [16:45] :P but it worked fine [16:52] obelus: it's just poor practice; sometimes you might get lucky, yes [16:52] but I strongly advise against it as a habit [16:54] it's better to watch the upgrade process and avoid removing packages you care about [16:55] (though of course I'm trying to keep it so you don't need to very much, but unresolvable dependencies do happen from time to time) [16:55] I know they do :P it's what I get for staying in the development branch [17:00] *grumble* It would help if powerpc would catch up a bit. [17:01] I don't have the opportunity to try Ubuntu on powerpc [17:02] Eh... I just posted a bug to network-manager. I just realised it uploaded an 800k attachment with names of all my wireless networks, and my username on my college network... lol. [17:02] It's not that, it's that it's easier for me to manage the perl transition with architectures more in sync [17:02] and my ISP's dns servers. [17:03] Ah... how's powerpc going? [17:04] network-manager> if it contains that sort of data then I would have thought the bug would have been automatically marked private [17:04] ? [17:04] powerpc builder queue is 6.5 hours; it'll get there, it's just a bit sluggish [17:05] Not that I can see, how do I tell? [17:07] if it's private then the web interface will say "The information on this page is private" across the top, and "This report is private" with a padlock icon on the right [17:07] er, with a pencil icon that is [17:07] (the padlock's on top) [17:07] has the upgrade OS command changed , do-release-upgrade -d doesn't seem to activate any repos [17:07] BluesKaj: it may not have been switched on for precise yet [17:08] we explicitly enable it once it's out of actual eats-all-your-kittens mode (usually around alpha 1) [17:08] someppl are running precise already , is there a an image available ? [17:09] there are daily builds, and it's possible to upgrade by manually editing sources.list and using apt-get [17:09] I'm running precise, but all I did was use sed to change oneiric to precise in sources.list [17:09] cjwatson, it doesn't say private anywhere that I can see on the page [17:10] (I kind of prefer not to give explicit instructions at this point because you may need to know how to get out of problems) [17:10] obelus: oh. you can mark it private, although it's probably already gone out to ubuntu-bugs ... although none of the information you described sounds terribly sensitive really [17:11] (sorry, I seem to have misread username as password earlier :-) ) [17:12] ok thanks cjwatson , obelus , but i moved the ppas from source.list.d already , but no luck [17:12] :P I won't bother marking it as sensitive, just slightly annoys me that it gives away my general location and my surname. [17:12] BluesKaj, here's what I did: Changed oneiric to precise in every line of the file, and run update. But I give absolutely NO guarantee as to how it'll leave your system. [17:14] obelus, what's that sed command again , I used to have it but dropped it because I thoght it it was too dangerous [17:15] obelus, I'll be doing the upgrade on my "test " machine , no worries [17:15] BluesKaj, kinda forgot the exact line... not proficient enough with sed to know it off the top of my head, so easy way is loading gedit and pressing ctrl+h (find and replace) [17:16] sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [17:16] NM , I think it's in my other cli cmnds textfile anyway [17:17] well here goes ...I'll check in on the other pc [17:37] Quick question [17:37] If I run dist-upgrade -d on my 10.04 server, will it give me a choice before upgrading? [17:40] it should [17:40] obelus: for servers the preferred upgrade method is do-release-upgrade -d, but idk if that's available yet [17:41] er, I meant do-release-upgrade [17:41] I keep type dist- instead [17:41] I dont know why [17:48] Why does do-release-upgrade want to start another SSH server on a different port? [17:51] Yay. Couldnt upgrade because it couldnt calculate it. [18:05] obelus, cause ssh needs to be killed? [18:05] so it starts another copy of ssh elsewhere [18:20] patdk-wk: which is odd, because upgrading openssh-server does not take down running SSH sessions [18:22] hopefully not :) [18:34] aranwe [18:34] aaaa === max is now known as Visionaire [21:41] anyone know anything about a problem where the system boots up and the runlevel never gets set so none of your services start up? I did a clean install with the oneiric server iso a couple of days ago, upgraded it to precise, transferred the package state from another box that was already running precise with dpkg --get-selections/--set-selections, ran apt-get dselect-upgrade and now when the system boots, [21:41] /sbin/runlevel just says "unknown" [21:42] anything I've found on google so far has either been 4 or 5 year old tips that don't seem relevant anymore, instructions for editing packaged scripts to try and resolve it or stupid comments that aren't helpful at all [21:45] Has anyone else been experiencing slow wifi issues? [21:45] I have a Broadcom card and the wifi isn't as fast as on older Ubuntu releases [22:03] hi, I set kde numbers in systemsettings to arabic digits or other digit systems but still the numbers are the same as 1 2 3 4