[08:10] hey folks === johnoxton_ is now known as johnoxton === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [13:07] morning [13:12] hi designers :) [13:20] hi [13:23] there is a release date for the new design website (madebymake.something) ? My locoteam (ubuntu-fr) started to work on a new design and this site can really help us :) [13:26] YoBoY: not yet, I'm afraid, but I'm working on the schedule for that this week, as soon as possible, it's very important! :) [13:26] YoBoY: also, that won't be the correct url [13:27] yes sure :) [13:31] Have people seen the post on planet from Christian Giordano? [13:31] there is some rules my team have to follow on top of the guidelines, or are we free to adapt these guidelines with our own ideas ? If I remember well my team was an example for a "type 3" ubuntu websites [13:31] yaili: is there any help we can offer in getting the new design website out? [13:31] wendar: Could I grab your ear for a few minutes? [13:33] doctormo-other: I have seen it and it was right on time. Our parisian party is over and I finally have more time to work on design [13:34] mhall119: sadly, no, it's mainly logistics [13:35] nuthinking: ping [13:44] doctormo-other: hi === johnoxton_ is now known as johnoxton === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:48] hi :) [14:56] doctormo-other: good morning :) [14:56] doctormo-other: have got one meeting in 5mins, but free after that [15:39] Hi all, I've started a wiki page for the design team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesignTeam [15:39] I think we should discuss what the mission for this collaborative team should be, what we would like to see as goals, and where we should limit our scope === nuthinking__ is now known as nuthinking [16:22] I have a question, would the launcher have blur in future? [17:04] om26er: I think rosie/chaotic might have tried some experiements with blur in the design process [17:05] om26er: jaytaoko would be able to say what the actual situation on the implementation side is [17:05] i saw blur in the launcher sometime the Oneiric cycle IIRC [17:06] would be good to have the launcher blurred, in some cases the totally transparent panel can be un clear on eyes, especially for BFB [17:07] om26er: yes, IIRC in Orlando rosie, Otto, Cimi and MacSlow(?) were looking at possibilities for making the background work a little more effectively [17:09] sladen, that's interesting and cool to hear :-) [17:10] launcher needs to rock harder :-D [17:11] om26er: I think the general idea is to firm up what's there [17:11] om26er: eg. the reports of certain colour-combinations causing text<->background constrast issues [17:25] sladen, I was not directly involved in this particular discussion [17:26] I talked with Otto about other background-related stuff [18:02] Hello folks [19:41] jaytaoko, continuing here, will the launcher have blur ? [19:41] om26er: When the dash opens the launcher background becomes blurred [19:42] om26er: same thing for the Dash and the panel. [19:42] and when there is not dash i.e. launcher over a maximized window is revealed, blurred launcher would look more attractive wont it? [19:42] om26er: you are asking about having the blur be permanent in the launcher? [19:43] yes jaytaoko [19:43] om26er: it is technically feasible. However there are a many reason why we don't do it at this stage. [19:44] om26er: First it has to be part of the design. [19:44] om26er: then there is the cost in resource and performance [19:44] I'll open a bug for that to see what design thinks about that [19:44] oh performance :/ [19:45] om26er: The launcher being always visible, having an active blur there is more demanding [19:45] jaytaoko, that would be more of a problem on slower GPUs [19:45] right? [19:45] toggle FTW! :-D [19:46] om26er: right! Oneiric was our first release of the active blur. We can still improve on the technique we use [19:47] om26er: So it is not excluded that we are going to make the active blur more optimized in the future. [19:48] jaytaoko, could I assume "future" to be LTS+1 or that may happen this cycle as well ? [19:49] om26er: Not sure; the first requirement is to have design decide on the treatment they have for the launcher [19:49] jaytaoko, I will open a bug about that :-) [19:49] om26er: in the mean time that doesn't stop us to find new ways to optimize the algorithm for the blur [19:50] om26er: no problem! [19:50] jaytaoko, thanks for all the info :-) [19:51] om26er: you're welcome :) [19:54] * AlanBell wonders if the London design team folks would like to come out to play [19:55] we have a pub meet on the 8th of December in Surbiton [19:55] and christmas meal on the 9th of december at Dans Le Noir in London [19:55] http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-uk [19:56] * AlanBell further wonders if sabdfl is in town for that? [20:01] Dans le Noir tried to kill me [20:01] well [20:02] mistook 'allergic to shellfish' for 'i'll have extra shrimp, please' [20:02] it was entertaining :-) [20:02] great night, otherwise [20:03] gosh, that isn't so clever [20:03] nice 'tashe by the way [20:04] sabdfl: An attempt on your life! never! [20:04] AlanBell: We put in for lil-Violet's passport, I'm hoping I can come to that event still. [20:04] oh wow, you're coming too? [20:05] I've convinced Mrs Popey to come along too [20:05] excellent! [20:05] I said that even though the place will be full of geeks, she wont be able to see them. [20:05] popey: With the wife off on maternity leave and me off forever, the schedule is flexible. Matter of baby's schedule now ;-) [20:06] doctormo-other: do sign up on the page, we have a hard limit of places and it is first come first serve, you can change your attendance up to 48 hours in advance [20:07] Do you have someone to look after mini-mo whilst you're eating unknown food product in the dark? [20:09] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/ <- popey like the new design for listing attendees? [20:10] AlanBell: Job done. [20:17] yay \o/ [20:18] popey: Probably will be the wife, or my good friends in Surrey. [20:18] ...looking after the lil one. [23:03] doctormo-other: lyz is my lp name, pleia2 won't work (that's why I changed it) [23:05] pleia2: I forgot why I needed it. [23:13] [23:46] pleia2: oh, good I just fixed workitem in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-ux-participation [23:46] thanks :)