[08:10] <MacSlow> hey folks
[13:07] <mhall119> morning
[13:12] <YoBoY> hi designers :)
[13:20] <yaili> hi
[13:23] <YoBoY> there is a release date for the new design website (madebymake.something) ? My locoteam (ubuntu-fr) started to work on a new design and this site can really help us :)
[13:26] <yaili> YoBoY: not yet, I'm afraid, but I'm working on the schedule for that this week, as soon as possible, it's very important! :)
[13:26] <yaili> YoBoY: also, that won't be the correct url
[13:27] <YoBoY> yes sure :)
[13:31] <doctormo-other> Have people seen the post on planet from Christian Giordano?
[13:31] <YoBoY> there is some rules my team have to follow on top of the guidelines, or are we free to adapt these guidelines with our own ideas ? If I remember well my team was an example for a "type 3" ubuntu websites
[13:31] <mhall119> yaili: is there any help we can offer in getting the new design website out?
[13:31] <doctormo-other> wendar: Could I grab your ear for a few minutes?
[13:33] <YoBoY> doctormo-other: I have seen it and it was right on time. Our parisian party is over and I finally have more time to work on design
[13:34] <yaili> mhall119: sadly, no, it's mainly logistics
[13:35] <doctormo-other> nuthinking: ping
[13:44] <nuthinking> doctormo-other: hi
[14:48] <Andy80> hi :)
[14:56] <wendar> doctormo-other: good morning :)
[14:56] <wendar> doctormo-other: have got one meeting in 5mins, but free after that
[15:39] <mhall119> Hi all, I've started a wiki page for the design team: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesignTeam
[15:39] <mhall119> I think we should discuss what the mission for this collaborative team should be, what we would like to see as goals, and where we should limit our scope
[16:22] <om26er> I have a question, would the launcher have blur in future?
[17:04] <sladen> om26er: I think rosie/chaotic might have tried some experiements with blur in the design process
[17:05] <sladen> om26er: jaytaoko would be able to say what the actual situation on the implementation side is
[17:05] <om26er> i saw blur in the launcher sometime the Oneiric cycle IIRC
[17:06] <om26er> would be good to have the launcher blurred, in some cases the totally transparent panel can be un clear on eyes, especially for BFB
[17:07] <sladen> om26er: yes, IIRC in Orlando rosie, Otto, Cimi and MacSlow(?) were looking at possibilities for making the background work a little more effectively
[17:09] <om26er> sladen, that's interesting and cool to hear :-)
[17:10] <om26er> launcher needs to rock harder :-D
[17:11] <sladen> om26er: I think the general idea is to firm up what's there
[17:11] <sladen> om26er: eg. the reports of certain colour-combinations causing text<->background constrast issues
[17:25] <MacSlow> sladen, I was not directly involved in this particular discussion
[17:26] <MacSlow> I talked with Otto about other background-related stuff
[18:02] <calcmandan_pre> Hello folks
[19:41] <om26er> jaytaoko, continuing here, will the launcher have blur ?
[19:41] <jaytaoko> om26er: When the dash opens the launcher background becomes blurred
[19:42] <jaytaoko> om26er: same thing for the Dash and the panel.
[19:42] <om26er> and when there is not dash i.e. launcher over a maximized window is revealed, blurred launcher would look more attractive wont it?
[19:42] <jaytaoko> om26er: you are asking about having the blur be permanent in the launcher?
[19:43] <om26er> yes jaytaoko
[19:43] <jaytaoko> om26er: it is technically feasible. However there are a many reason why we don't do it at this stage.
[19:44] <jaytaoko> om26er: First it has to be part of the design.
[19:44] <jaytaoko> om26er: then there is the cost in resource and performance
[19:44] <om26er> I'll open a bug for that to see what design thinks about that
[19:44] <om26er> oh performance :/
[19:45] <jaytaoko> om26er: The launcher being always visible, having an active blur there is more demanding
[19:45] <om26er> jaytaoko, that would be more of a problem on slower GPUs
[19:45] <om26er> right?
[19:45] <om26er> toggle FTW! :-D
[19:46] <jaytaoko> om26er: right! Oneiric was our first release of the active blur. We can still improve on the technique we use
[19:47] <jaytaoko> om26er: So it is not excluded that we are going to make the active blur more optimized in the future.
[19:48] <om26er> jaytaoko, could I assume "future" to be LTS+1 or that may happen this cycle as well ?
[19:49] <jaytaoko> om26er: Not sure; the first requirement is to have design decide on the treatment they have for the launcher
[19:49] <om26er> jaytaoko, I will open a bug about that :-)
[19:49] <jaytaoko> om26er: in the mean time that doesn't stop us to find new ways to optimize the algorithm for the blur
[19:50] <jaytaoko> om26er: no problem!
[19:50] <om26er> jaytaoko, thanks for all the info :-)
[19:51] <jaytaoko> om26er: you're welcome :)
[19:54]  * AlanBell wonders if the London design team folks would like to come out to play
[19:55] <AlanBell> we have a pub meet on the 8th of December in Surbiton
[19:55] <AlanBell> and christmas meal on the 9th of december at Dans Le Noir in London
[19:55] <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-uk
[19:56]  * AlanBell further wonders if sabdfl is in town for that?
[20:01] <sabdfl> Dans le Noir tried to kill me
[20:01] <sabdfl> well
[20:02] <sabdfl> mistook 'allergic to shellfish' for 'i'll have extra shrimp, please'
[20:02] <sabdfl> it was entertaining :-)
[20:02] <sabdfl> great night, otherwise
[20:03] <AlanBell> gosh, that isn't so clever
[20:03] <AlanBell> nice 'tashe by the way
[20:04] <doctormo-other> sabdfl: An attempt on your life! never!
[20:04] <doctormo-other> AlanBell: We put in for lil-Violet's passport, I'm hoping I can come to that event still.
[20:04] <popey> oh wow, you're coming too?
[20:05] <popey> I've convinced Mrs Popey to come along too
[20:05] <AlanBell> excellent!
[20:05] <popey> I said that even though the place will be full of geeks, she wont be able to see them.
[20:05] <doctormo-other> popey: With the wife off on maternity leave and me off forever, the schedule is flexible. Matter of baby's schedule now ;-)
[20:06] <AlanBell> doctormo-other: do sign up on the page, we have a hard limit of places and it is first come first serve, you can change your attendance up to 48 hours in advance
[20:07] <popey> Do you have someone to look after mini-mo whilst you're eating unknown food product in the dark?
[20:09] <doctormo-other> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1409/detail/ <- popey like the new design for listing attendees?
[20:10] <doctormo-other> AlanBell: Job done.
[20:17] <AlanBell> yay \o/
[20:18] <doctormo-other> popey: Probably will be the wife, or my good friends in Surrey.
[20:18] <doctormo-other> ...looking after the lil one.
[23:03] <pleia2> doctormo-other: lyz is my lp name, pleia2 won't work (that's why I changed it)
[23:05] <doctormo-other> pleia2: I forgot why I needed it.
[23:13] <popey>   
[23:46] <wendar> pleia2: oh, good I just fixed workitem in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-ux-participation
[23:46] <pleia2> thanks :)