[09:56] hi there. [09:57] i'm still having some issues with preseed. i just installed a server using this network preseed : http://pastie.org/2871469 and after installation the host is using dhcp. what's wrong? [11:18] hello [11:19] what package is responsible for generating Ubuntu ISO's? [11:19] I dont know what to assing my bug report. [11:20] !bug 890151 [11:20] Launchpad bug 890151 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 11.10 ISOs after release, not bootable from pendrive on Macs." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890151 [11:20] macer1 has a problem installing 11.10 on a Mac, presumably with a USB stick created by usb-creator-gtk [11:20] the ubuntu-cdimage project (not package in Ubuntu) [11:20] oh, created by usb-creator [11:20] in that case, usb-creator [11:20] reassigned [11:20] I think this was already a known bug though [11:21] cjwatson - i would have thought so [11:21] brendand the problem is that alphas and betas worked without problem :D [11:21] I am writing this from 11.10 on my Mac :D [11:21] I installed it some time ago, and updated to final. [11:22] I don't remember what specifically might have changed, sorry [11:22] I am using dd to write images to pendrive, btw. [11:24] Maybe do you have some ideas why it stopped booting? [11:24] sorry, I don't - I haven't tested Macs for some time [11:24] ok, thanks :) [11:25] I'm due to get hold of one in a while and maybe I can look then [11:25] until then I'm afraid I can't help much [11:25] Can I download an alpha 2 of oneiric? [11:26] no, those have all been archived [11:26] CD images take up a fiendish amount of space over time; we can only keep reasonably current releases available [11:27] :/ [11:27] I remember alpha 2 was booting perfectly. [11:29] Maybe I am writing it wrong. [11:30] dd if=ubuntu-oneiric.iso of=/dev/sdb [11:33] (macer1 probably worth adding bs=1M - writing one byte at a time isn't going to be the fastest thing going) [11:34] cjwatson - well, i guess if he's dd'ing then it's not usb-creator [11:35] sure, then reassign to the ubuntu-cdimage project [11:35] (I'm working on other urgent things I'm afraid) [11:36] I don't believe that hybrid ISO booting on Mac EFI is expected to remotely work right now. If it ever did it was by luck [11:36] We need to pull in a giant wodge of weird stuff from Matthew Garrett to have a hope [11:36] But that needs to be done in xorriso upstream really [11:58] cjwatson, why by luck :D? [11:58] it was booting great grub2 efi [11:59] and what weird stuff are you talking about :D? [12:01] http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/4957.html [12:01] since we have none of that work in Ubuntu images yet, any ability to boot on Mac EFI using an image dded to a USB stick was purely by luck, I'm afraid [12:07] ... [12:08] but...but...it was booting :( [12:10] I'm sorry, I don't really know what to tell you [12:11] It is so complicated... [12:14] Will it be fixed in 12.04? [12:20] I don't know; I need to discuss it with xorriso upstream [12:24] ok thanks, you helped me a lot :) [15:29] hi there, I just ran into a problem with the latest ubuntu-installer from oneiric when booting the installer from a tftp-server [15:30] mfl: works for me - what's the problem ? [15:37] the first window just shows squares instead of chars already [15:38] as I can't read anything I wasn't brave enough to click anywhere, so I don't know if this only occurs in the first window... [15:38] CarlFK: any idea? [15:39] the append line is "append priority=low vga=788 initrd=ubuntu-installer/gtk/amd64/initrd.gz --" [15:39] here is my setup: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/tree/master/setup/pxe [15:41] but I also tried "append priority=low video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 initrd=ubuntu-installer/gtk/amd64/initrd.gz --" already, but the result is the same [15:41] if you sudo ./install.sh it will setup a working pxe server - but I would only do that if you are OK with it trashing your exising configs [15:42] hmm, that's kind of a problem [15:43] in the shaz dir are my configs.. you could cut/paste the key parts [15:43] the ubuntu-installer isn't the only part my tftpd serves [15:45] I would start by running "sudo shaz/root/getu.sh oneiric amd64" using my default [15:45] getu.sh does a wget'sthe kernel/initrd files [15:46] and puts them in a dir the tftp server where default uses them [15:47] nice, but I already did this manually... [15:47] um.. then it should work :) [15:48] downloaded the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/gtk/netboot.tar.gz, extracted the contents into the tftpboot and so on [15:48] yeah, you didn't do what I do [15:48] so.. [15:48] my suggestion: do what I do. [15:49] this used to work very nice for older ubuntu-installer versions, so I'm wondering what could have changed... [15:50] you must have more boxes around... run my ./install.sh on one of them, set your dhcp server to point at the test pxe stuff [15:51] can anyone help with preseeding? i'm having issues with the network config. it always uses dhcp, whatver i do [15:51] next-server testserver ; [15:51] yeah, I'll probably should give it a shot [15:52] CarlFK: sure, I used dhcp for network booting for more than 8 years now... :-) [15:52] but thanks anyway [15:53] KaZeR_W: how are you ..umm.. supplying the preseed file? [15:53] http, nfs, local file... [15:55] CarlFK, http [15:55] KaZeR_W: how are you setting the IP config? [15:56] one odd thing I stumbled upon during my investigations is that pxelinux.cfg/default includes ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/menu.cfg which includes ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/gtk.cfg, but the gtk.cfg file doesn't exist in the gtk's netboot.tar.gz ... [15:57] i'm booting the hosts via PXE. on my last try, i did : " append initrd=ubuntu-server/initrd.gz priority=critical auto=true url=... ip=..." [15:57] but the hosts used dhcp even during installation [15:58] KaZeR_W: pastbin your default [15:58] and preseed [16:00] CarlFK, http://pastie.org/2872867 [16:09] KaZeR_W: ip=10.151.2.7 [16:10] where are the docs that say that will do what you think it does? [16:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html might be here, I am digging around [16:11] KaZeR_W: ip= isn't listed under Aliases useful with preseeding [16:12] indeed, afaik that does not work with Ubuntu [16:20] CarlFK, honestly i have read a lot of differents docs about that i don't recall where i find this one. hang on i'm checking my history [16:21] CarlFK, might be this one : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11452015 [16:21] there is ip=dhcp, so i assumed ip= should work [16:22] * cjwatson is speaking from looking at the code, regardless of what somebody said on the forums, [16:22] KaZeR_W: ip=dhcp I think that is deceptive [16:22] ip=dhcp is a pxelinux option not an installer option [16:23] I think [16:23] oh, no, wait [16:23] Ah. ip= is a *kernel* option not an installer option; it's for NFS root. [16:24] ok. then how can one preseed a static network configuration? [16:24] KaZeR_W: try append ... netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.1.150 [16:24] ok [16:24] It is useless for configuring the installer. [16:24] The installation guide that CarlFK quoted earlier is authoritative - forums aren't [16:24] the installer works fine using dhcp, it's fine for me. i just need the right network conf to be applied afterward [16:25] thanks cjwatson. i'll review that guide === z30 is now known as KaZeR_W_ === KaZeR_W_ is now known as KaZeR_W__ === KaZeR_W__ is now known as KaZeR_W [16:43] cjwatson: Is there a way to install an older distro with netinstall? I want to be able to install Maverick and Natty on armel omap4 for SRU testing and I can automate netinstall much easier than the preinstalled images. [16:43] i do not understand how the "killall.sh; netcfg" hack is supposed to work, in the Network configuration part of https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html [16:43] GrueMaster: just grab the matching netboot image [16:44] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ should have indexes of links for older releases [16:44] cjwatson, we didnt have netboot for some releases on arm [16:44] cjwatson: We only started building netinstall images for omap4 in Oneriric. [16:45] then we would have to start building them for older releases too [16:45] Personally, I think we need them for all supported platforms, even if we don't support the netinstaller. Makes automation much easier. [16:45] assuming the underlying code is there and it's just a matter of adding images [16:45] GrueMaster: well, yes, that's always been my position, but at the time the arm team disagreed that this was a priority [16:45] well, it is surely there in later releases [16:45] we would likely need to backport some bits [16:45] ogra_: it's a question of whether it's just a build system tweak, or whether it requires backporting actual installer code [16:46] the former is trivial, the latter not so much [16:46] well, the latter is likely totally arch specific [16:46] can you take care of it, whichever it is? [16:46] subarch even [16:46] there's no real point in me trying to do it, I don't know what's needed [16:46] hmm, k [16:46] worst case we could publish extra-archive images [16:47] in fact even the hostname isn't taken into account. it defaults to ubuntu [16:48] well, i would just be able to roll d-i locally with that change and give GrueMaster the image, i doubt we need it in the archive even [16:48] that part is a known bug [16:48] KaZeR_W: ^- [16:49] s/would/should/ [16:49] I do have netinstall images for omap. I wonder if they would work if I just hammered in an omap4 kernel around them. [16:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/218965 [16:49] Launchpad bug 218965 in netcfg "preseeding hostname doesn't work in a network install" [High,Triaged] [16:49] GrueMaster: I would not be surprised to find problems [16:49] GrueMaster, unlikely [16:49] module udebs etc will break [16:49] ogra_: you could use a monolithic image if necessary (e.g. if you had to change flash-kernel) [16:50] yep [16:51] cjwatson, which part ? the hostname ? [16:51] GrueMaster, let me look at that tomorrow, for today i still need to babysit the live image build [16:51] yes [16:51] ok [16:51] cjwatson, ok. but i still can't get my static network settings to be taken into account :) [16:51] tehoretically just movinf NCommander's scripts from oneiric into the older d-i builds (and possible add a newer flahs-kernel) should be enough [16:52] GrueMaster, which arches do you need, omap4 and mx5 ? or just omap4 [16:53] KaZeR_W: give me 20 min.. I'll try some things here [16:53] omap4 for maverick & natty would be very helpful. imx53 for Oneiric+. [16:58] thanks CarlFK . i'll have to go afk for a moment, would you mind sending a pm so i can get your message later ? [20:23] append ... priority=critical netcfg/dhcp_options="Configure network manually" netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.0.2 [20:24] prompts me for netmask, defaulted to 255.255.255.0. shouldn't priority=critical make it use the default? [20:26] http://pastebin.com/eu5bpBQb full append line.. trimming stuff out to see if something is conflicting