[09:56] <KaZeR_W> hi there.
[09:57] <KaZeR_W> i'm still having some issues with preseed. i just installed a server using this network preseed : http://pastie.org/2871469 and after installation the host is using dhcp. what's wrong?
[11:18] <macer1> hello
[11:19] <macer1> what package is responsible for generating Ubuntu ISO's?
[11:19] <macer1> I dont know what to  assing my bug report.
[11:20] <macer1> !bug 890151
[11:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 890151 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 11.10 ISOs after release, not bootable from pendrive on Macs." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890151
[11:20] <brendand> macer1 has a problem installing 11.10 on a Mac, presumably with a USB stick created by usb-creator-gtk
[11:20] <cjwatson> the ubuntu-cdimage project (not package in Ubuntu)
[11:20] <cjwatson> oh, created by usb-creator
[11:20] <cjwatson> in that case, usb-creator
[11:20] <cjwatson> reassigned
[11:20] <cjwatson> I think this was already a known bug though
[11:21] <brendand> cjwatson - i would have thought so
[11:21] <macer1> brendand the problem is that alphas and betas worked without problem :D
[11:21] <macer1> I am writing this from 11.10 on my Mac :D
[11:21] <macer1> I installed it some time ago, and updated to final.
[11:22] <cjwatson> I don't remember what specifically might have changed, sorry
[11:22] <macer1> I am using dd to write images to pendrive, btw.
[11:24] <macer1> Maybe do you have some ideas why it stopped booting?
[11:24] <cjwatson> sorry, I don't - I haven't tested Macs for some time
[11:24] <macer1> ok, thanks :)
[11:25] <cjwatson> I'm due to get hold of one in a while and maybe I can look then
[11:25] <cjwatson> until then I'm afraid I can't help much
[11:25] <macer1> Can I download an alpha 2 of oneiric?
[11:26] <cjwatson> no, those have all been archived
[11:26] <cjwatson> CD images take up a fiendish amount of space over time; we can only keep reasonably current releases available
[11:27] <macer1> :/
[11:27] <macer1> I remember alpha 2 was booting perfectly.
[11:29] <macer1> Maybe I am writing it wrong.
[11:30] <macer1> dd if=ubuntu-oneiric.iso of=/dev/sdb
[11:33] <ev> (macer1 probably worth adding bs=1M - writing one byte at a time isn't going to be the fastest thing going)
[11:34] <brendand> cjwatson - well, i guess if he's dd'ing then it's not usb-creator
[11:35] <cjwatson> sure, then reassign to the ubuntu-cdimage project
[11:35] <cjwatson> (I'm working on other urgent things I'm afraid)
[11:36] <cjwatson> I don't believe that hybrid ISO booting on Mac EFI is expected to remotely work right now.  If it ever did it was by luck
[11:36] <cjwatson> We need to pull in a giant wodge of weird stuff from Matthew Garrett to have a hope
[11:36] <cjwatson> But that needs to be done in xorriso upstream really
[11:58] <macer1> cjwatson, why by luck :D?
[11:58] <macer1> it was booting great grub2 efi
[11:59] <macer1> and what weird stuff are you talking about :D?
[12:01] <cjwatson> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/4957.html
[12:01] <cjwatson> since we have none of that work in Ubuntu images yet, any ability to boot on Mac EFI using an image dded to a USB stick was purely by luck, I'm afraid
[12:07] <macer1> ...
[12:08] <macer1> but...but...it was booting :(
[12:10] <cjwatson> I'm sorry, I don't really know what to tell you
[12:11] <macer1> It is so complicated...
[12:14] <macer1> Will it be fixed in 12.04?
[12:20] <cjwatson> I don't know; I need to discuss it with xorriso upstream
[12:24] <macer1> ok thanks, you helped me a lot :)
[15:29] <mfl> hi there, I just ran into a problem with the latest ubuntu-installer from oneiric when booting the installer from a tftp-server
[15:30] <CarlFK> mfl: works for me - what's the problem ?
[15:37] <mfl> the first window just shows squares instead of chars already
[15:38] <mfl> as I can't read anything I wasn't brave enough to click anywhere, so I don't know if this only occurs in the first window...
[15:38] <mfl> CarlFK: any idea?
[15:39] <mfl> the append line is "append priority=low vga=788 initrd=ubuntu-installer/gtk/amd64/initrd.gz --"
[15:39] <CarlFK> here is my setup: https://github.com/CarlFK/veyepar/tree/master/setup/pxe
[15:41] <mfl> but I also tried "append priority=low video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 initrd=ubuntu-installer/gtk/amd64/initrd.gz --" already, but the result is the same
[15:41] <CarlFK> if you sudo ./install.sh it will setup a working pxe server - but I would only do that if you are OK with it trashing your exising configs
[15:42] <mfl> hmm, that's kind of a problem
[15:43] <CarlFK> in the shaz dir are my configs.. you could cut/paste the key parts
[15:43] <mfl> the ubuntu-installer isn't the only part my tftpd serves
[15:45] <CarlFK> I would start by running "sudo shaz/root/getu.sh oneiric amd64" using my default
[15:45] <CarlFK> getu.sh does a wget'sthe kernel/initrd files
[15:46] <CarlFK> and puts them in a dir the tftp server where default uses them
[15:47] <mfl> nice, but I already did this manually...
[15:47] <CarlFK> um.. then it should work :)
[15:48] <mfl> downloaded the http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/gtk/netboot.tar.gz, extracted the contents into the tftpboot and so on
[15:48] <CarlFK> yeah, you didn't do what I do
[15:48] <CarlFK> so..
[15:48] <CarlFK> my suggestion: do what I do.
[15:49] <mfl> this used to work very nice for older ubuntu-installer versions, so I'm wondering what could have changed...
[15:50] <CarlFK> you must have more boxes around... run my ./install.sh on one of them, set your dhcp server to point at the test pxe stuff
[15:51] <KaZeR_W> can anyone help with preseeding? i'm having issues with the network config. it always uses dhcp, whatver i do
[15:51] <CarlFK> next-server testserver ;
[15:51] <mfl> yeah, I'll probably should give it a shot
[15:52] <mfl> CarlFK: sure, I used dhcp for network booting for more than 8 years now... :-)
[15:52] <mfl> but thanks anyway
[15:53] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W: how are you ..umm.. supplying the preseed file?
[15:53] <CarlFK> http, nfs, local file...
[15:55] <KaZeR_W> CarlFK, http
[15:55] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W: how are you setting the IP config?
[15:56] <mfl> one odd thing I stumbled upon during my investigations is that pxelinux.cfg/default includes ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/menu.cfg which includes ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/gtk.cfg, but the gtk.cfg file doesn't exist in the gtk's netboot.tar.gz ...
[15:57] <KaZeR_W> i'm booting the hosts via PXE. on my last try, i did : " append initrd=ubuntu-server/initrd.gz priority=critical auto=true url=...  ip=..."
[15:57] <KaZeR_W> but the hosts used dhcp even during installation
[15:58] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W: pastbin your default
[15:58] <CarlFK> and preseed
[16:00] <KaZeR_W> CarlFK, http://pastie.org/2872867
[16:09] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W:  ip=10.151.2.7
[16:10] <CarlFK> where are the docs that say that will do what you think it does?
[16:10] <CarlFK> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html  might be here, I am digging around
[16:11] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W: ip= isn't listed under   Aliases useful with preseeding
[16:12] <cjwatson> indeed, afaik that does not work with Ubuntu
[16:20] <KaZeR_W> CarlFK, honestly i have read a lot of differents docs about that i don't recall where i find this one. hang on i'm checking my history
[16:21] <KaZeR_W> CarlFK, might be this one : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11452015
[16:21] <KaZeR_W> there is ip=dhcp, so i assumed ip=<something static> should work
[16:22]  * cjwatson is speaking from looking at the code, regardless of what somebody said on the forums,
[16:22] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W: ip=dhcp I think that is deceptive
[16:22] <cjwatson> ip=dhcp is a pxelinux option not an installer option
[16:23] <cjwatson> I think
[16:23] <cjwatson> oh, no, wait
[16:23] <cjwatson> Ah.  ip= is a *kernel* option not an installer option; it's for NFS root.
[16:24] <KaZeR_W> ok. then how can one preseed a static network configuration?
[16:24] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W: try append ... netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.1.150
[16:24] <KaZeR_W> ok
[16:24] <cjwatson> It is useless for configuring the installer.
[16:24] <cjwatson> The installation guide that CarlFK quoted earlier is authoritative - forums aren't
[16:24] <KaZeR_W> the installer works fine using dhcp, it's fine for me. i just need the right network conf to be applied afterward
[16:25] <KaZeR_W> thanks cjwatson. i'll review that guide
[16:43] <GrueMaster> cjwatson: Is there a way to install an older distro with netinstall?  I want to be able to install Maverick and Natty on armel omap4 for SRU testing and I can automate netinstall much easier than the preinstalled images.
[16:43] <KaZeR_W> i do not understand how the "killall.sh; netcfg" hack is supposed to work, in the Network configuration part of https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html
[16:43] <cjwatson> GrueMaster: just grab the matching netboot image
[16:44] <cjwatson> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/ should have indexes of links for older releases
[16:44] <ogra_> cjwatson, we didnt have netboot for some releases on arm
[16:44] <GrueMaster> cjwatson: We only started building netinstall images for omap4 in Oneriric.
[16:45] <cjwatson> then we would have to start building them for older releases too
[16:45] <GrueMaster> Personally, I think we need them for all supported platforms, even if we don't support the netinstaller.  Makes automation much easier.
[16:45] <cjwatson> assuming the underlying code is there and it's just a matter of adding images
[16:45] <cjwatson> GrueMaster: well, yes, that's always been my position, but at the time the arm team disagreed that this was a priority
[16:45] <ogra_> well, it is surely there in later releases
[16:45] <ogra_> we would likely need to backport some bits
[16:45] <cjwatson> ogra_: it's a question of whether it's just a build system tweak, or whether it requires backporting actual installer code
[16:46] <cjwatson> the former is trivial, the latter not so much
[16:46] <ogra_> well, the latter is likely totally arch specific
[16:46] <cjwatson> can you take care of it, whichever it is?
[16:46] <ogra_> subarch even
[16:46] <cjwatson> there's no real point in me trying to do it, I don't know what's needed
[16:46] <ogra_> hmm, k
[16:46] <cjwatson> worst case we could publish extra-archive images
[16:47] <KaZeR_W> in fact even the hostname isn't taken into account. it defaults to ubuntu
[16:48] <ogra_> well, i would just be able to roll d-i locally with that change and give GrueMaster the image, i doubt we need it in the archive even
[16:48] <cjwatson> that part is a known bug
[16:48] <cjwatson> KaZeR_W: ^-
[16:49] <ogra_> s/would/should/
[16:49] <GrueMaster> I do have netinstall images for omap.  I wonder if they would work if I just hammered in an omap4 kernel around them.
[16:49] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/218965
[16:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 218965 in netcfg "preseeding hostname doesn't work in a network install" [High,Triaged]
[16:49] <cjwatson> GrueMaster: I would not be surprised to find problems
[16:49] <ogra_> GrueMaster, unlikely
[16:49] <ogra_> module udebs  etc will break
[16:49] <cjwatson> ogra_: you could use a monolithic image if necessary (e.g. if you had to change flash-kernel)
[16:50] <ogra_> yep
[16:51] <KaZeR_W> cjwatson, which part ? the hostname ?
[16:51] <ogra_> GrueMaster, let me look at that tomorrow, for today i still need to babysit the live image build
[16:51] <cjwatson> yes
[16:51] <GrueMaster> ok
[16:51] <KaZeR_W> cjwatson, ok. but i still can't get my static network settings to be taken into account :)
[16:51] <ogra_> tehoretically just movinf NCommander's scripts from oneiric into the older d-i builds (and possible add a newer flahs-kernel) should be enough
[16:52] <ogra_> GrueMaster, which arches do you need, omap4 and mx5 ? or just omap4
[16:53] <CarlFK> KaZeR_W: give me 20 min.. I'll try some things here
[16:53] <GrueMaster> omap4 for maverick & natty would be very helpful.  imx53 for Oneiric+.
[16:58] <KaZeR_W> thanks CarlFK . i'll have to go afk for a moment, would you mind sending a pm so i can get your message later ?
[20:23] <CarlFK> append ... priority=critical netcfg/dhcp_options="Configure network manually" netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.0.2
[20:24] <CarlFK> prompts me for netmask, defaulted to 255.255.255.0. shouldn't priority=critical make it use the default?
[20:26] <CarlFK> http://pastebin.com/eu5bpBQb full append line.. trimming stuff out to see if something is conflicting