| dholbach | good morning | 08:07 |
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| cemc | broder: ping. pdns-recursor landed in -backports, except hardy | 08:14 |
| broder | cemc: yeah, it's stuck in binary NEW, because the hardy version didn't have the -dbg package | 08:14 |
| * broder goes and pokes someone | 08:14 | |
| broder | cemc: looks like we're still waiting on the powerpc build: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdns-recursor/3.3-2~hardy1/+build/2930110 | 08:30 |
| broder | but one of the admins went and scored it up, so it should run soon | 08:31 |
| cemc | broder: nice, thanks | 08:31 |
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| broder | tumbleweed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/740052/ | 10:17 |
| broder | (first time running not-from-bzr) | 10:17 |
| broder | also, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/740055/ | 10:21 |
| Laney | tumbleweed: in the absence of anything else, should we see if created_before_date can be done? | 10:58 |
| dholbach | tumbleweed: thanks for your fix for 781003 | 11:03 |
| Laney | i approve of this udt release | 11:07 |
| * Laney seal of approval | 11:07 | |
| tumbleweed | dholbach: np. Should have done it ages ago. I don't know why I was thinking it'd be more invasive... | 11:19 |
| tumbleweed | broder: urgh, that's pretty obvious in hindsight | 11:19 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: clearly you haven't run into the bug broder pointed out :) | 11:19 |
| Laney | hah | 11:19 |
| Laney | i run it out of bzr | 11:20 |
| tumbleweed | broder: hrm, not so sure about the second one. I'll have to reproduce it, I guess | 11:21 |
| tumbleweed | anyway, I'd better race another upload through, without waiting for lp to pick it up from debian. broken requestsync and submittodebian... :/ | 11:21 |
| Laney | syncpackage --no-lp is fine if it's pressing imho | 11:22 |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 11:22 |
| dholbach | :) | 11:24 |
| tumbleweed | broder: any ideas about that requestbackport issue? the development launchpads are all too out of date to test it on | 12:01 |
| tumbleweed | broder: your problem now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oneiric-backports/+bug/891112 | 12:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 891112 in Oneiric Backports "Please backport powertop-1.13 1.13-1ubuntu2 (universe) from precise" [Undecided,New] | 12:29 |
| CarlFK | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/squid-deb-proxy/oneiric/view/head:/debian/squid-deb-proxy.templates | 14:57 |
| CarlFK | shouldn't I be prompted with those questions when I install that? | 14:58 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: no, because they use low priority | 15:03 |
| tumbleweed | we don't want to show every question. Only questions where there is no sensible default | 15:03 |
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| CarlFK | tumbleweed: where is the priority set? | 15:16 |
| tumbleweed | CarlFK: in the config script. But you don't want to change those priorities, they look right | 15:16 |
| CarlFK | tumbleweed: wasn't thinking of chaning, just trying to figure out how it works | 15:18 |
| CarlFK | is "config script" = http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/squid-deb-proxy/oneiric/view/head:/debian/squid-deb-proxy.config | 15:18 |
| CarlFK | db_input *low* squid | 15:18 |
| CarlFK | got it | 15:19 |
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| broder | tumbleweed: ok. maybe it's a credential issue or something. i'll bother #launchpad if i run into it again | 15:46 |
| tumbleweed | broder: no, it was a bug, I had \n in the title | 15:46 |
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| broder | ah, i see | 15:46 |
| roaksoax | dholbach: howdy! I was wondering if the documentation somewhere on udd shows and explains what are the files created when merging (such as <file>.THIS and <file>.OTHER) | 16:45 |
| dholbach | barry, ^ do you know? | 16:46 |
| barry | roaksoax: that's a more general bzr question, but i'm positive i've seen some documentation on that. /me searches | 16:47 |
| roaksoax | barry: thanks! | 16:48 |
| chrisccoulson | something like http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.0.92/en/user-guide/conflicts.html ? | 16:48 |
| dholbach | http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.4/en/user-guide/resolving_conflicts.html | 16:50 |
| barry | chrisccoulson: yep, that's it thanks | 16:50 |
| dholbach | (in the recent version) | 16:50 |
| barry | dholbach: that's the other one i was thinking about | 16:50 |
| roaksoax | chrisccoulson barry: yep. cool! Thanks! ;) | 16:50 |
| l3on | Hi all... Is there somone that would review some of my proposing merges ? :) | 17:04 |
| l3on | *someone | 17:04 |
| Kiall | If there anyone around familiar with git-buildpackage? Was hoping someone could help me understand its submodule support. Specifically, Keeping the debian folder in 1 branch, and overlaying that onto a tag with submodules... Everything bar the submodules works, and I'm not sure if I've set something up wrong, of if I'm trying to do something unsupported. Thanks :) | 17:28 |
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| Majost | Hello, I am trying to create a new CDBS package in 11.10 -- and I discovered the cdbs option is missing from dh_make | 18:19 |
| Majost | Is there a new way to use the CDBS packaging template? | 18:19 |
| Majost | ahh | 18:24 |
| Majost | nm | 18:24 |
| Majost | just looked at the dh-make changelog and saw it was changed to a rules format | 18:25 |
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| broder | Majost: i would recommend using dh these days instead of cdbs, unless you have a specific reason not to. i think most people in here would probably do the same. | 20:13 |
| Majost | I always found cdbs pretty easy to use for most stuff | 20:16 |
| Majost | whats the reason for the shift to dh and phasing out of cdbs? | 20:17 |
| tumbleweed | I always find I have to read the source code when I want to do anything non-trivial with it | 20:17 |
| tumbleweed | the same applies to dh, I suppose, but that's way more readable | 20:17 |
| mok0 | Majost: Beats me. dh sucks imho | 20:17 |
| Majost | hah | 20:17 |
| mok0 | cdbs is clean gnumake macros | 20:18 |
| broder | i used to be a big fan of cdbs too, before dh 7 came out, but with dh 7 i'd argue you get all of the benefits of cdbs (which are basically a short rules file) without the pain of having to understand their abuse of make syntax just to change the arguments to a debhelper script | 20:18 |
| mok0 | broder: I very much prefer a hand-crafted rules file | 20:18 |
| Majost | hrm | 20:18 |
| mok0 | or cdbs | 20:19 |
| broder | mok0: yeah, i hate those. they're terrible violations of DRY | 20:19 |
| Majost | broder: I will have to try out dh7 with my next package | 20:19 |
| mok0 | broder: thing is, no 2 packages are alike | 20:19 |
| Majost | I've already finished the package I started earlier | 20:19 |
| broder | that's not true. most packages are at least 75% alike | 20:19 |
| mok0 | broder: not the ones I've worked with | 20:19 |
| broder | have you ever built a package you didn't call dh_md5sums or dh_installdeb on? | 20:19 |
| tumbleweed | mok0: I can find you the same bug in many many packages' debian/rules files | 20:20 |
| broder | or any of the dozen others that you never touch, but have to remember to call in the right order lest something blow up? | 20:20 |
| mok0 | broder: no :-) | 20:20 |
| tumbleweed | getting them fixed one maintainer at a time is crazy-slow | 20:20 |
| mok0 | broder: There are a few idioms that are repeated, yes | 20:20 |
| broder | mok0: i disagree. i think that *most* idioms are repeated | 20:21 |
| broder | and dh 7 lets you capture just the things that are non-standard, however many of those things there may be | 20:21 |
| mok0 | broder: you are permitted to disagree :-) | 20:21 |
| mok0 | broder: anything non-standard and dh7 lets you down | 20:22 |
| broder | nah, override_dh_auto_build: and you can do whatever you want | 20:22 |
| mok0 | broder: oh, and what does that do to the "simple" rules file? :-) | 20:23 |
| mok0 | I don't find a bunch of overrides easier to understand | 20:23 |
| tumbleweed | mok0: it keeps it simple, with your rules file only declaring how it differs from the norm | 20:23 |
| broder | mok0: it makes about 3 lines longer, but you *still* don't have to write all of the standard dh_* idioms by hand | 20:23 |
| mok0 | broder: I like to see what's going on | 20:24 |
| mok0 | but when I'm lazy, I like cdbs :-) | 20:25 |
| Laney | must be crazy, I'm running ./rocketfuel-setup | 20:31 |
| tumbleweed | eep why? | 20:32 |
| Laney | fancied seeing how hard fixing LP bugs are | 20:32 |
| tumbleweed | you realise we'll all remember that now... :) | 20:32 |
| Resistance | lol | 20:33 |
| nigelb | Laney: \o/ | 20:33 |
| Laney | the real one I want to fix is NotAutomatic for PPAs | 20:33 |
| nigelb | Famous last words... | 20:33 |
| Laney | nigelb is going to mentor me! | 20:33 |
| nigelb | what! No! | 20:33 |
| nigelb | Anything touching or going anywhere nearby Soyuz and I will run in the other direction. | 20:33 |
| broder | awesome! i successfully stalled long enough that somebody else is looking into it! :) | 20:33 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: after that, sync sponsorship | 20:34 |
| Laney | heh | 20:34 |
| Laney | i tried again to get that escalated today | 20:34 |
| Laney | if only it was doing bzr branch lp:launchpad in parallel with this massive package install | 20:36 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, that's a non-trivial checkout | 20:36 |
| * tumbleweed has one on a machine far away, with real bandwidth | 20:37 | |
| Laney | zzzzzzzzzz | 20:59 |
| Laney | losing the will to live | 21:00 |
| Resistance | anyone able to give me some pointers about setting up a packaging recipe? | 21:00 |
| Resistance | in launchpad | 21:00 |
| * Resistance has no clue how to begin, or if it'll even work | 21:00 | |
| Laney | #launchpad is the best place for that | 21:00 |
| Resistance | true, but they havent been much help when i ask in the past ;P | 21:00 |
| tumbleweed | Resistance: it's pretty straight-forward. Setup a vcs-import (if necessary). Create a branch with the contents of debian. Write a 3 line recipe. Test locally with bzr dailydeb | 21:02 |
| Resistance | tumbleweed: the lack of examples or documentation is what gets mew | 21:03 |
| broder | Resistance: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes | 21:03 |
| Resistance | broder: and that's been changed in the past 6 months? | 21:03 |
| Resistance | actually this is a different page | 21:04 |
| Resistance | :p | 21:04 |
| Resistance | thanks | 21:04 |
| broder | Resistance: i just googled for [launchpad recipe] | 21:04 |
| Resistance | lol | 21:04 |
| * Laney cries on nigelb's shoulder | 21:12 | |
| * Resistance hands Laney a box of tissues | 21:12 | |
| Majost | Could someone tell me if I need to include the autogenerated quilt patches when adding it to my source control? | 21:34 |
| Majost | I tried cloning without them, and I get build errors.... so I am not sure if I am just passing dpkg-buildpackage the wrong arguments or if I need to include it | 21:35 |
| JackyAlcine | Hey, guys, when I used dput, I put "ubuntu" instead of "ppa". I'm hoping that I didn't mess anything up. >_< | 21:35 |
| Majost | s/adding it/adding my debianization/ | 21:37 |
| jtaylor | autogenerated quilt patch? | 21:39 |
| jtaylor | that should be avoided | 21:39 |
| nigelb | Laney: heh, what happened? | 21:39 |
| Laney | JackyAlcine: do you have upload access? | 21:40 |
| Laney | nigelb: sloooooooooooow | 21:40 |
| Laney | there were several huge bzr checkouts | 21:40 |
| nigelb | Laney: I wanted to contribute to LP over a year. I kept being stopped because the downloading would stop at some point and I'd be stuck | 21:40 |
| Laney | and now bin/buildout is taking forever | 21:41 |
| Laney | heh | 21:41 |
| Laney | thank god for fast broadband | 21:41 |
| nigelb | heh | 21:41 |
| JackyAlcine | Laney: I'm not sure, I'm not an official Ubuntu package maintainer so I don't think that I've done too much harm. | 21:41 |
| Laney | if you don't have access to upload to the archive then you can't have caused any problems | 21:42 |
| ajmitch | there'd be trouble if any random person could screw up the archive :) | 21:42 |
| JackyAlcine | But I wanted to warn in advance. It was only the .changes for my wintermute binary package. | 21:42 |
| * JackyAlcine exhales a sigh of relief. | 21:42 | |
| Laney | i used to play a mud called wintermute | 21:43 |
| JackyAlcine | Another question: can you only upload to a PPA via ftp? How about rsync or https? | 21:45 |
| JackyAlcine | I got an error using rsync, and plain http failed.. :/ | 21:45 |
| Laney | ftp or sftp | 21:48 |
| JackyAlcine | Thanks again, Laney. | 21:50 |
| Laney | yay! launchpad.dev is alive! | 22:06 |
| iamfuzz | Laney, launchpad.dev? you setup your own LP install? | 22:12 |
| Laney | sure did | 22:12 |
| Resistance | Laney: you're going to fix that bug you mentioned earlier right? | 22:12 |
| Resistance | ;P | 22:13 |
| Laney | baby steps | 22:13 |
| iamfuzz | Laney, funny, I'm going to be doing that tomorrow :-) | 22:16 |
| iamfuzz | Laney, how difficult was it? Soyuz up too? | 22:16 |
| lifeless | iamfuzz: https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/LXC + https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/HowToUseSoyuzLocally | 22:17 |
| lifeless | iamfuzz: its quite straight forward | 22:17 |
| iamfuzz | lifeless, awesome | 22:17 |
| iamfuzz | lifeless, LP been quite snappier since you came aboard there | 22:17 |
| lifeless | thanks | 22:18 |
| lifeless | we're making progress | 22:18 |
| Laney | yeah, I haven't soyuzed yet | 22:21 |
| Laney | it was pretty painless besides taking some time | 22:21 |
| Laney | iamfuzz: I recommend you let it download overnight :-) | 22:40 |
| iamfuzz | Laney, lol that big huh | 22:41 |
| lifeless | its a little heavy :) | 22:42 |
| Laney | just not that fun to stare at | 22:43 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: just got to the bottom of another bug in lp-udd, that was making oneiric unimportable (I thought I was running into random timeouts / lp maintainance, but it was a python bug...) | 23:21 |
| Laney | hah | 23:21 |
| Laney | in python core? | 23:22 |
| tumbleweed | already fixed in 2.7 http://bugs.python.org/issue10963 | 23:22 |
| Laney | isn't that the one we saw before? | 23:23 |
| tumbleweed | we weren't using comminicate, we were just running into the problem of trying to write too much into the subprocess, when it was blocking because we weren't reading its output | 23:23 |
| tumbleweed | the solution to that is to use communicate(), but then this bug... | 23:24 |
| Laney | yes, that's why I stopped using communicate before | 23:24 |
| tumbleweed | sbcl had many lines of changelog fixed in one upload | 23:24 |
| tumbleweed | err, a big merge | 23:25 |
| iamfuzz | lifeless, is ppa privatization available in the open source dump? | 23:25 |
| iamfuzz | granted it'll be running internally anyway but still nice to have that granular level of control | 23:25 |
| lifeless | iamfuzz: EPARSE | 23:25 |
| lifeless | iamfuzz: (I'm not sure what you man) | 23:54 |
| lifeless | *mean* | 23:54 |
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