[00:11] New bug: #890917 in bacula (main) "bacula won't uninstall" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890917 [00:14] anybody tinker with 11.10 in a Meru wireless network yet? [00:38] Hi [00:38] Is there a way to implement chroot home directory using sftp in openssh server 4.7 ? [00:39] I am on Ubuntu Server 8.04 [00:42] Try http://shapeshed.com/journal/chroot_sftp_users_on_ubuntu_intrepid/ [00:43] jandrusk: the version mentioned is 4.9 [00:44] openssh-server version is 4.7 in 8.04 LTS [00:50] correct, that functionality was not available in that version [00:50] you must use a traditional jail, I've used jailkit in the past [00:51] caveats being said jail applies to the user in all contexts, not just SFTP, and it requires more effort to set up [00:51] my suggestion is to upgrade [00:52] hardy's only got about a year and a half left on it for support as it is [00:53] hi [00:53] anybody tinker with 11.10 in a Meru wireless network yet? [00:56] +1 for internal-sftp + chroot [01:38] Why not just upgrade to the latest? [01:39] LTS has its merits to be sure [01:39] but I would upgrade to lucid [01:42] lucid is lts anyway === jason is now known as Guest66271 [01:51] hmm, are server upgrades from 6.06 to 10.04 (or from 8.04 to 12.04) supported? [01:51] they were, and may still be [01:52] 6.06 to 8.04 may be tricky but was a supported option [01:52] 8.04 to 10.04 is supported and 10.04 to 12.04 will be supported [01:53] if you mean skipping an upgrade, then the answer is no [01:53] they must be done incrementally [02:02] !upgrade [02:02] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [02:02] kklimonda: there is copious documentation. If you have read it and still have problems, ask away [02:02] (As qman says, you need to upgrade to each LTS in turn.) [02:09] I don't really have problems :) I was just wondering if skipping LTS is supported (Kubuntu team did support upgrades that skipped releases, I was wondering if maybe server team does that too) [02:11] AFAIK no === Guest66271 is now known as jasef [03:25] I'm trying to get a computer to boot via PXE to my Orchestra Server, but I'm not running DD-WRT and I don't exactly understand the role of the "Static Lease" [03:26] a Static lease is where a router gives a machine the same IP everytime via DHCP [03:29] jMyles: do you have access to the dnsmasq.conf ? [03:31] twb: I'm using Zentyal, which I think uses dhcp3 instead of dnsmasq [03:31] OK that has an icky format but can be done [03:31] In dnsmasq you jsut say "go use /etc/ethers" [03:45] also known as a DHCP reservation, in dhcp3 it's defined in a host block [03:46] like so: http://pastebin.com/11i0wgW2 [03:46] I call it "fixed DHCP" to avoid confusion with static (non-DHCP) allocations [03:50] I call it reservations because that's the microsoft term, and microsoft DHCP was the first time I'd ever heard of or used it [03:51] and yes, "static DHCP" is very prone to confusion [03:52] and, unlike most microsoft terms, that one is unambiguous and technically accurate [03:54] I don't know anything about microsoft [03:55] It's fixed like a nail, not like a dog [04:23] OK, got around the Zentyal issue. Now, when we boot via PXE, we are given a list of profiles, but not the 'system' with the image (iso) that we have specified. [04:25] WHich one is zentyal again [04:25] Oh it's one of the webmin/cpanel things [04:26] turnkey ebox distro [04:29] It seems that I havent had any updates to my server in a few months. Any idea how to track down if 1) I'm up to date 2) if something is blocking updates? [04:30] cgkades: check if sources.list looks sane, run apt-get update, run apt-get dist-upgrade --dry-run [04:30] We can't seem to make orchestra work - if we pick one of the prefab profiles it goes through the kickstart and then hangs. We don't have an option to boot an image. [04:30] jMyles: dunno about orchestra, sorry. All my stuff is in-house work that predates it. [04:31] boutil: jMyles using 11.10 ? [04:31] err [04:31] sorry [04:31] jMyles: using 11.10 ? [04:31] cgkades: also check your release (lsb_release -a) and see if it has been end-of-lifed, in which case there are no updates, but you should upgrade to a new release [04:32] yep 11.10 [04:32] jMyles: hangs on the first boot or still during the installer? [04:32] twb: looks like i'm on 9.10 i thought i was on 10.04 LTS [04:32] SpamapS: It goes through what looks like the initrd, past DHCP config, and then hangs on the pinkish screen [04:33] SpamapS: why does orchestra use ks instead of preseeding? [04:33] twb: thanks for the help [04:34] twb: it doesn't [04:34] twb: but cobbler was built around the word kickstart.. so sometimes kickstart is used as the word. But it is definitely built on pre-seeds. [04:34] Ah, cobbler comes from the FC world? [04:35] Yeah, Cobbler just moved off Fedorahosted onto Github today actually [04:37] jMyles: have to run, but if its hanging during the install, you should see the logs on the cobbler server. If its hanging on first boot, try booting without 'quiet' and with '--verbose' on the grub cmdline [04:37] * SpamapS disappears [04:37] RTFL FTW :P [04:38] SpamapS: Where and when during the PXE boot am I supposed to see the images or systems I create in the cobbler gui? [04:40] SpamapS: BTW, I am also getting a python AttributeError when I try to create an image: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'os_version [04:46] jMyles: dunno about orchestra, but normally PXE boot will load the PXE ROM off the local h/w, that will do a DHCP request, it will then do TFTP to fetch $filename (usually pxelinux.0) from the TFTP server (defaults same as DHCP server). [04:46] twb: That part seems to be working in this case. [04:47] Once pxelinux.0 takes over it usually tries to fetch a MAC- or IP-specific .cfg file, falling back to pxelinux.cfg/default. THAT then usually tells it to load some more config files, a menu.c32 or similar, etc, allowing the user to pick a boot option [04:47] Once they do, pxelinux.0 THEN will pull down (still over TFTP) a kernel and ramdisk, and these are loaded. [04:48] They then will follow their coding and boot: options to find and pull down everything else, usually preseed.txt or so coming down either via TFTP (very new) or HTTP/FTP/NFS (traditional) [04:48] Oh, during that last pull down there will be a second DHCP request, which a clever DHCP server might serve something different for [05:06] gpxe is nice, downloads and configs over http [05:06] but I just can't get the damned thing to fit in under a 64k rom [05:06] atleast not with iscsi support, haven't attempted it without iscsi [05:06] Eh, TFTP is a better protocol for the job [05:07] that depends [05:07] tftp has no authenication or protection [05:07] I admit the setup is a pain if you don't already have a TFTPd and you DO have an HTTPd [05:07] and I dunno any tftp that allow scripts to change the returned files [05:08] but my goal was to add iscsi netboot, to systems that didn't have iscsi nic [05:08] You mean like CGI instead of static HTTP? [05:08] yep [05:08] IMO if you're getting fancy like that (or auth) then OK, http [05:08] But I think it's a bit silly to be serving secrets during the boot process... [05:08] I think some things also get odd, and do http range requests for boot also, not sure though [05:09] static serving, put the smarts inside the pxelinux.0 (or equivalent) chainloader, no secrets so no auth needed [05:09] not sure of the idea there is [05:09] unless it's just to keep unautherized people off that network [05:09] fuse curlftpfs is pretty cute for mounting the sq over HTTP (using range requests), but I think I'll stick to nfs/nbd/aoe :-) [05:09] secrets burned into rom, with https [05:10] patdk-lap: if you want to keep unauthorized people off the net then bloody well lock it down properly (physical layer, etc), not in the bootloader :-/ [05:10] twb, hard to do that in a classroom [05:11] Oh is this one of those stupid things where lecturers want to make sure people who are studying other classes shouldn't get access to their teaching materials [05:11] doubt that [05:11] more of a thing of ignoring random things that shouldn't be on the network I guess [05:11] just seen people doing it [05:11] If students have physical access, they can bring in their own gear unless you lock it down in the switch with MAC whitelisting &c [05:11] never really played with why, myself [05:12] I mean, what's the attack vector that they're trying to close [05:12] no clue [05:12] IME it's more incompetence or resources limiting things [05:12] my university had the problem every time the linux 101 course hit DHCP they'd bring the whole LAN down [05:13] qman__: certainly IME teaching staff are clueless about tech :-/ [05:13] because they were either too dumb or too cheap to put a router in that room [05:13] qman__: haha, and STP [05:13] qman__: I have several stupid customers that have STP-less SXs, and regularly they will plug the SX into itself [05:13] no more net [05:13] yeah [05:14] I really should bother with stp more [05:14] patdk-lap: like, at all? ;-P [05:14] my switchs will heal themselfs [05:14] but they bring things up and down for a few min before it settles down [05:14] you probably paid extra for name-brand switches [05:16] And not a name like "Hong's Lucky Dragon genuine IOS-compatibule" [05:16] all my cisco switchs died a quick death [05:16] So what, procurve? [05:17] never liked hp [05:17] atleast switchs [05:17] normally go with the netgear l3 switchs [05:18] only have had the poe models of those ever fail me [05:18] netgear's just cisco these days [05:18] no [05:18] that is linksys [05:18] Oh, sorry [05:18] Brain fart [05:18] and I would never call linksys switchs cisco [05:19] if it doesn't run ios it's not cisco [05:19] I think all catos is dead these days [05:22] I do use cisco switchs in the hp blade systems [05:22] only cause I don't trust the hp switchs at all [05:23] man, long past sleep time === scar[w]_ is now known as scar[w] [06:41] hey guys, im trying to set up some special hard drive mirroring stuff. I am trying to get hardive to mirror with an external hardrive, and idea how to set up this type of RAID 1? [06:47] T3CHKOMMIE: don't do that [06:48] twb, its an experiment for an OS I am testing. [06:48] T3CHKOMMIE: USB HDD enclosures are flaky enough that you'll be dumped into degraded mode regularly [06:48] degraded mode = won't boot without a human holding its hand [06:48] its not a boot drive. ive got that on another exter device. its just a simple partition im trying to key "synced" with the orignal on the pc. [06:48] ASIDE from that caveat, you should be able to simply tell mdadm to use /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, where they are the internal and external drivers respectively. [06:49] If you're just trying to keep *files* synced, use rsync, not RAID [06:49] is rsyn instantanious? [06:49] (Come to think of it, the slow speed of USB2 would kill you're I/O to the main disk as well, even with write-behind enabled.) [06:50] T3CHKOMMIE: no, rsync is a batch process [06:50] !rsnapshot [06:50] Stupid bot [06:50] ya im trying to get instantanious syncing. :( [06:50] T3CHKOMMIE: you aren't gonna get what you want [06:50] T3CHKOMMIE: not without some crippling tradeoffs wrt. speed and robustness, anyway [06:50] well then, looks like im back to programming this shit by hand. [06:50] http://rsnapshot.org/ <-- I recommend this [06:51] T3CHKOMMIE: if you're programming, then is this for a database or something? [06:53] its a data structure I am designing. and I am trying to get it off the ground. I am using a combination of a few hard drives, jump drives and NILFS to get a web server set up that can go down, come back online with only a few seconds of down time and almost no data loss. [06:53] so far i got it all working. i am just trying to get my internal media to be 100% cloned to my external media with in a minute of write. [06:54] i was thinking if i did a softRAID ( i know its clunky and risky) i would have exactly two bit for bit copies one one internal drive and one external that i could then move to hardware that is working and have no down time for my site. [06:55] I am almost 100% possitive im going to meet my goal. I just need to figure out how to keep my /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdc1 identical... RAID1 seemed to be the obvious choise. [06:56] That sounds like EC2's job [06:57] EC2? [07:01] "der cloud" [07:02] Rapid provisioning, high availability, etc. [07:03] ya, its just something for my small site... i cant afford cloud space :( [07:21] Hello, I upgraded a xen vps jaunty server to karmic using alternate CD method, and now the server opens the maintenance shell opens, and it doesn't continue to boot. Any ideas what to do? [07:48] Sensiva: no reason given, just right into the maintenance shell? [07:49] SpamapS http://pastebin.com/fRfxE43N [07:51] Sensiva: ahh, looks like / needs an fsck.. [07:51] I did [07:51] Sensiva: it turns up clean then? [07:51] now aptitude tells that upstart is broken (unmet dependencies) [07:51] SpamapS yes [07:52] Not sure I ever really trust aptitude. ;) [07:52] still, so after an fsck, you were able to boot.. but then something else was broken? [07:54] I got the maintenance shell after upgrade reboot, tried fsck then reboot. no luck === jason is now known as Guest35720 [07:59] Sensiva: sorry to give you any false hope.. Its about time I went to bed. :p [07:59] :D [07:59] Sensiva: maybe try mounting the root fs next tho [08:00] it's mounted read only [08:00] g #macosx === Guest35720 is now known as jasef === jason is now known as Guest78728 [09:16] hi all [09:23] hola Daviey [09:40] Hello, I have installed phpmyadmin, mysql-server, apache and php5 on my server, how can I know what is the data base host address? it has to be the same ip address of the server right? [09:41] By default, it's configured to listen to all interfaces if I'm not mistaken. So any address the server has, it'll respond on port 3306 [09:41] But you can't log on remotely, unless you first configure users/hosts [09:43] ersi: I am trying to install wordpress remotly from another computer on the same LAN and this is the IP of the server and I connect to phpmyadmin using it 192.168.10.35 but when I type it as data base host it doesn't work! username and password are correct. [09:44] Yeah, for the same reason I stated above :) [09:44] you need to command line hax this boat up the creek first [09:45] ersi: How can I do that please? [09:46] Syria: That's a part of administrating a MySQL database. I'd recommend looking at: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/adding-users.html [09:46] specifically the GRANT statement [09:47] ersi: Thank you. [09:48] ersi: I have done this on a my VPS before and I didn't face such probelms. May I know why did this happen please? [09:49] you probably followed a guide which told you do issue some GRANT statement :) [09:50] Or you had PHPMyAdmin on localhost, and logged on as root [09:50] as in on the VPS [09:51] I know nothing about coding and that grant thing scared me a lot. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/grant.html [09:52] ersi: On my VPS I was installing wordpress from my GUI browser firefox. [09:57] hi there [09:57] i'm still having some issues with preseed. i just installed a server using this network preseed : http://pastie.org/2871469 and after installation the host is using dhcp. what's wrong? [10:00] ersi: I have created a new user and the problem is solved.. thank you :) [10:04] Syria: Awesome :-) === jason is now known as Guest2138 [10:17] morning o/ === Guest2138 is now known as jasef [10:51] New bug: #891071 in puppet (main) "puppet lucid backport doesn't support upstart" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891071 [10:55] for the life of me, i can't understand how to preseed a server using static ip settings. it's always using dhcp in the end [10:55] New bug: #891085 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.5-2~build0.11.04 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891085 [11:20] htaccess mod_rewrite is kicking my trash today. I have a fresh Ubuntu LAMP server. How do I get rewrite to work? [11:21] jehoshua02: 1. update the config to first enable the module then add the rewrite and 2. restart the server [11:22] xranby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Edit_Apache_Configuration [11:22] ^??? [11:22] jehoshua02: Error: "???" is not a valid command. [11:22] This one right? /etc/apache2/apache2.conf [11:22] I'm unfamiliar with the layout of apache2 config files. [11:23] thanks. [11:24] jehoshua02: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_rewrite.html [11:25] jehoshua02: can you paste what your rewrite rules look like? [11:25] I need to enable the mod first. [11:25] If I have problems with the rules I'll let you know. [11:26] jehoshua02: to enable the mod add RewriteEngine on [11:26] xranby: sudo a2enmod rewrite [11:28] hmm... [11:28] looks like that just creates a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/, which is what I tried already. [11:28] k, so there must be something else. [11:31] jehoshua02: yes you need to update the configuration files [11:31] xranby: I think it's AllowOverride in the site default [11:32] jehoshua02: than you can create a .htaccess file with the rest of the configuration in the webservers www folder [11:32] this file needs to contains three lines [11:32] 1. RewriteEngine On [11:32] 2. RewriteBase /xyz [11:32] 3. RewriteRule ^oldstuff\.html$ newstuff.html [11:34] jehoshua02: have you restarted the apache server using apache2ctl restart ? [11:34] yep [11:35] hmm... still not working. [11:35] jehoshua02: double check that AllowOverride All [11:36] jehoshua02: can you paste what your rewrite rules looks like? [11:37] 1 Options +FollowSymLinks [11:37] 2 RewriteEngine On [11:37] 3 RewriteBase / [11:37] 4 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f [11:37] 5 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d [11:37] 6 RewriteRule ^(.*) index.php/$1 [11:38] if you have the 1-6 numbers in the config file then remove the numbers [11:38] xranby: the numbers are only part of vim configuration. [11:46] xranby: any other ideas? [11:46] jehoshua02: pasye any error mesasge you recive [11:46] and check your access log [11:46] 403 forbidden [11:47] can the webserver access the folder? [11:47] /var/www/ [11:48] yes. [11:48] inside that folder theres the .htaccess, index.php, and media/ [11:48] index.php and media/ are symlinks. [11:53] jehoshua02: tro figure out why you get a 403 forbidden.. it are totally unrelated to the rewrite rules [11:54] xranby: I know. Never said they were. [11:55] ah, I mentioned htaccess at the start. sorry. [12:27] Good morning [12:28] * spoonbow slaps spoonbow around a bit with a large trout [12:29] hi! i've got a cron that properly uses sendmail to send mails but when i use a php webform to send mails they go nowhere, is php using also sendmail for delivery? === gustav- is now known as beerbro [12:54] #debian +l 1177 [12:54] Mode #debian +l 1177 by debhelper [12:56] hi there [12:58] I am trying to rdesktop via a ubuntu server but i'm not getting a connection, I'm connecting to a VM via headless mode, the only thing i've changed on the host was the hostname, would this cause the rdesktop to error? I am still trying to connect via the IP [13:10] Guest9461: Just curious, is this a VirtualBox server? I have one setup. I had to make sure Guest Additions were properly installed to get rdp and other features working. [13:11] it's a ubuntu server and virtualbox is installed onto it [13:11] I then ssh into the server and launch VBoxHeadless [13:12] and then rdesktop into the server [13:12] Guest9461: Cool. I have the same thing. I use PHPVirtualBox installed on my laptop to connect to the server though. [13:12] oh? [13:12] PHPVirtualBox has a flash component that does the rdp. [13:12] nice? and what are the benefits to that? [13:13] Web-based management of VBox VMs. [13:13] Instead of having to remember all the command lines for Vboxmanage [13:13] eitherway, I just changed the hostname of the server, and the damn rdesktop command is no longer working, and I can't find out why [13:13] Oh, that's nice... [13:13] Guest9461: It's possible. [13:14] I just read it all up and setup the one box as it's a free (kinda) way of using windows on my server [13:14] hmmmm yea, wish I never did... silly move really... [13:14] Here's the steps I followed to setup everything, including PHPVirtualBox: http://www.grokensteins.org/2011/11/ubuntu-1004-lts-virtualbox-412.html [13:15] Guest9461: But about your host name problem... [13:15] * jehoshua02 thinking [13:15] Guest9461: Can you connect to the server via IP instead of hostname? [13:15] nope, always used the IP [13:16] i can ssh in fine via the terminal [13:16] and even run the virtual machine via headless mode [13:16] Guest9461: then I don't see why changing the host name would break anything. [13:16] VBoxHeadless -s NAMEOFMACHINE [13:16] but rdesktop isn't connecting into it... [13:17] it's not a firewall, as i've checked and also checked on different connections [13:17] Guest9461: you were able to rdp before correct? [13:17] i've just done a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and am updating virtualbox to see if that makes a difference [13:17] yes always [13:17] Guest9461: Have you installed the extras? You need to have those to get VRDP [13:17] The regular package doesn't have the extras with them [13:17] VRDP == extra [13:18] Guest9461: yep, maybe try reinstalling Guest Additions. [13:18] yes the extras were always installed as I was rdesktop'ing into it fine earlier [13:18] okay brb [13:18] but I know the extras are installed [13:18] Have you upgraded virtualbox? In that case, reinstall the Extpack [13:18] Guest9461: ah, yes, right, there's guest additions, and there's the extras. Perhaps you'll need to reinstall one/both. [13:19] I had this trouble when going from 3.X to 4.X [13:19] as the VBoxHeadless -s NAME command is bringing up "listening on 3389" [13:19] Yeah, but it doesn't bind to it right? If you netstat [13:19] so it's listening, just not connecting.... [13:19] I was quite confused when that happened as well [13:20] it's odd as I was in it earlier today, and I just decided to change the server hostname, and that's it, so the only thing I could have thought of [13:20] Hm. [13:20] unless the crappy XP vdi broke? [13:20] it's an XP vm [13:20] unlikely, you should atleast get a blackscreen RDP in that case I think [13:21] I just get denied [13:21] I'd try #vbox on freenode, those guys kick ass at debugging VBox [13:21] i've tried rdesktop via linux 2 machines and also via windows 7 on another machine [13:21] but I'd still recommend doing an extpack clean and reinstall [13:21] okay np i'll reinstall right now see if I can sort it and then if not i'll head there [13:21] thanks [13:23] also I did learn more jehoshua02 introduced me (just) to PHPvirtualbox [13:23] Yeah, I'm checking it out as well - it seems sweet. It's grown a lot more since last time I checked it out [13:24] Guest9461, ersi: it's figgin sweet. Incredible work. [13:24] Guest9461: I run PHPVirtualBox in WAMP on my laptop. [13:24] i guess it's all getting more popular, I was thinking at the time I learned this I was one of the few people in the world crazy enough to do it all this way... guess it's clearly not the case lol [13:25] Guest9461: Actually, I think that us crazy people just know how to find eachother. [13:25] IRC!!!!! [13:25] lol :) [13:26] well... xchat for me ;) lol [13:27] It's still using the IRC protocol ;) [13:27] yea I knew i'd get that as soon as i hit enter... i was always memorised from an early age by the MIRC logo and the smiley lol [13:28] yeah, I figured :) [13:37] I hate smileys :) [13:54] good morning [13:56] !ask | zul [13:56] zul: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [13:58] elz89: Did i miss where zul asked to ask a question? [13:58] Daviey: Yes, you and me both, buddy. [13:58] Daviey: I thought he may have said 'good morning'to check if anyone was around? [13:59] zul: g'day! :) [13:59] elz89: ah, no - This is zul's office, he walked in and said Hi. He is a respected member of the ubuntu server team :) [14:00] i dunno about respected :) [14:00] hah [14:00] Ahh sorry I am relatively new, zul, my appologies. [14:01] And I have just come from spending some time watching over #ubuntu and trying to help people. You know how heated it gets over there. lol. [14:01] Yeah, hehe [14:02] elz89: Welcome!@ [14:03] Daviey: what is that? [14:03] a 'welcome' with a typo before i pressed enter. [14:07] Daviey: thank you, I am not going to be very valued, as I am still a pup. I have been into linux for a couple of years now. I run my own homebrew stuff, and I have just finished converting my Mum, Step Dad, Little bro and Little sisters computers to Ubuntu, (sis runs Lubuntu - crap PC), then they have a ubuntu server there backup up, media server, dhcp, dns, ntp etc... still playing around and trying to learn and servers. [14:07] Daviey, hey, last night i did the syslog-ng merge request just bc i didn't have perms to push it to the archive myself. if i prefer i can sling you a debdiff (though it'll be huge, since its an upstream merge) it tests fine. [14:07] I have no idea why I just told you that but I guess I wanted you to get I feel fior what I am doing right now. [14:08] elz89: thank you for exposing yourself. let us know if you are interested in helping the ubuntu server community [14:09] elz89: Welcome :-) I've had something similar poppin' before [14:12] pmatulis: I am very interested, been looking into some documentation I would like to upgrade a little. I don't know where to start really, so I just try to help on IRC, and just set things up and tests things out. I also do some objective-c stuff in xcode, love iOS :-P [14:12] I am trying to get everyone I can onto Ubuntu and it is working! :-) [14:13] My mum says that she is making huge savings in electric alone, now that the whole house in running this great OS. [14:13] elz89: let me know if you want to help out with the ubuntu server guide, i'm looking for technical reviewers [14:14] pmatulis: you are on ;-) [14:14] feel free to PM. [14:18] hallyn: debian -> ubuntu debdiff might be easier. [14:18] sure. or a udd merge request :) do you want the debdiff? [14:19] grr. ctrl-w in xchat [14:19] Daviey, lemme know what you want :) I can send you a tarball of the .dsc/etc like i used to too, but i *know* you hate that :) [14:19] hallyn: debdiff works for me.. I'm sure it'll be great.. I prefer UDD, if i'm likely going to ask for changes.. But this will be a perfect debdiff, right? :) [14:20] Daviey, of course :) [14:21] apart from two weirdness i had to change, it's almost a sync [14:21] ok, i'll post a debidff, biam [14:23] Daviey, http://people.canonical.com/~serge/syslog-merge-3.3.1.debdiff === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-lunch [14:32] hallyn: assume that is because systemd isn't in main? [14:32] that package doesn't exist in precise [14:33] my testing, fwiw, consisted of forwarding syslog msgs from one canonistack instance to another [14:34] hallyn: That is Great to hear! [14:42] hallyn: you know it will build-dep wait on, libevtlog-dev ? [14:42] (it's universe) === jasef is now known as semicolon [14:45] hallyn: If you believe it to be required, i'll upload.. but can you raise and follow up on a MIR? [14:45] If it doesn't add benefit, can we drop it as a build-dep? [14:46] Daviey, thanks, no i didn't notice that. I don't know what it is or if we need it, will get back to you [14:47] Daviey, well the changelog entry was: * Build-Depend on libevtlog-dev (>= 0.2.12-5~) for correct shlibs. [14:49] grr [14:49] I'm afraid it may need to be MIRd [14:49] Daviey: I'm checking the mcollective debdiff descriptions and they're right I reckon http://paste.ubuntu.com/740266/ [14:49] Daviey, no, syslog-ng is in universe [14:50] lynxman: Did "Description: build server orchestration or parallel job execution systems" come from Ubuntu or Debian? [14:50] hallyn: you are kidding me? [14:50] nope :) i guess rsyslog is out default? [14:50] maybe we should MIR syslog-ng [14:50] hallyn: quite right, my bad - sorry. [14:51] Daviey, is that something lintian would have warned about otherwise, or not? [14:51] (cause it did come up empty) [14:51] hallyn: sadly, not. [14:51] good to know [14:51] somethign ineed to be more careful about in the future (bc it didn't occur to me) [14:51] thanks [14:52] hallyn: Good, o - Uploading, looks perfect and builds here! [14:53] Daviey, and on a related note, the libvirt i was wanting to upload now build-depends on libnuma (popular user request), but that is in universe [14:53] GAH [14:53] hallyn: have you figured out the gnome-keyring stuff? [14:53] hallyn: really popular? [14:53] zul, i opened a bug on it, yes [14:54] Daviey, not sure. but the guy who last wanted it wanted it so bad he went and fixed it through debian [14:54] hallyn: I wonder what people are using it for. [14:54]