| pleia2 | sure, glad you got it all sorted :) | 00:01 |
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| Corey | pleia2: I'll be there this evening. Whee. | 00:25 |
| pleia2 | Corey: cool, see you in a couple hours then, bringing key to sign? | 00:26 |
| Corey | pleia2: Ooh, good call. | 00:26 |
| Corey | pleia2: Reviewing http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html | 00:33 |
| pleia2 | Corey: I tend to go by http://www.phillylinux.org/keys/terminal.html | 00:33 |
| pleia2 | so I just bring my ID and printed fingerprint | 00:33 |
| Corey | Hmm, 2048 bit key. Good enough. :-p | 00:37 |
| pleia2 | I went all the way to 4096, my key from 2003 was 1024 and useless now, it is very sad (particularly because that's the fingerprint I have on my business cards) | 00:38 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Some people take keys really serious :P just saying | 00:56 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: as they should, it's a web of trust | 00:56 |
| pleia2 | if people don't care it doesn't mean a whole lot | 00:56 |
| akk | Do you have to start all over getting signatures when you go to a longer key? | 00:58 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Yeah but so very few people use keys in the grand scheme of things. I would say a good majority of people who use the internet have no idea what a key is and better yet could not name a algorithm of the top of their head | 00:58 |
| bkerensa | I wish keys had wider adoption and were more of a standard | 00:59 |
| pleia2 | akk: yes, but if you write a transition statement and sign it with both keys the people who signed your key previously can then decide whether they trust the transition statement and sign your new one | 00:59 |
| akk | I went to a keysigning in 2007, got lots of signatures, think I've used the key twice since then (and neither time did the signatures help). | 00:59 |
| pleia2 | http://princessleia.com/gpg/key-transition_20110517_asc.txt | 00:59 |
| pleia2 | ^^ my transition statement | 00:59 |
| bkerensa | akk: Yeah exactly.... I would bet that if anything key use has declined over the years | 01:00 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: I wish more people used them, but in all honesty I only ever really use mine for signing debian packages (it's a requirement) | 01:01 |
| pleia2 | I haven't used it for email in years | 01:01 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 01:01 |
| bkerensa | see if your doing packaging and foss dev work then a key is essential | 01:01 |
| akk | I've never managed to get mutt to do anything useful with email signatures (like check against keyservers). | 01:01 |
| bkerensa | :D | 01:01 |
| pleia2 | I had mutt all set up for the whole thing back in the day, it was fun | 01:01 |
| pleia2 | now I use gmail and gave up :) | 01:02 |
| akk | Oh, yeah, I've used my key to sign software packages (is that the same key? I'm always confused about when I'm using a GPG key vs. an ssh key) | 01:02 |
| bkerensa | keys actually are a major headache for me personally because people new to Ubuntu love to ask me to teach them how to generate a key and sign the CoC | 01:02 |
| * bkerensa uses a key for Amazon EC2 and for root to two boxes but thats all :D | 01:03 | |
| jtatum | two different keys :) | 01:11 |
| jtatum | ssh key only does ssh and that's it | 01:12 |
| jtatum | and you can't use a gpg key to connect to an ssh session | 01:12 |
| jtatum | kinda seems dumb actually. shouldn't they support gpg keys for ssh? | 01:13 |
| akk | ssh can do a lot, though -- like repository access (I have an ssh key I use for that) | 01:14 |
| akk | I had to generate a special one with a password for gnome svn (now git) | 01:15 |
| jtatum | yes - when ssh is the underlying protocol :) | 01:15 |
| akk | so the process is quite a lot like making a gpg key and it's easy to forget which is which | 01:16 |
| jtatum | hm, apparently there's a tool called gpgkey2ssh, which is part of gnupg-agent | 01:17 |
| jtatum | and it may or may not be deprecated according to http://old.nabble.com/gpgkey2ssh-td30025315.html | 01:18 |
| akk | oh, great, that clears things up :) | 01:19 |
| jtatum | lol | 01:20 |
| jtatum | sorry :) | 01:20 |
| Corey | pleia2: Do I need to bring my passport to dinner? :-p | 01:36 |
| pleia2 | Corey: just a a single form of gov't ID is fine (drivers license?) | 01:36 |
| Corey | pleia2: So far this year it's gotten me into Mexico, Morocco, Germany, Israel, and... your web of trust. :-p | 01:37 |
| pleia2 | lol | 01:37 |
| pleia2 | I don't have a stamp | 01:37 |
| pleia2 | :) | 01:37 |
| Corey | pleia2: Make one! | 01:37 |
| Corey | Republic of pleia. Official motto: Subsisto Sermonem Statum | 01:37 |
| pleia2 | haha, hey! | 01:38 |
| pleia2 | Corey: wanna meet at montgomery and market and walk over? | 01:42 |
| pleia2 | (not sure where you are at the moment :)) | 01:42 |
| Corey | pleia2: Sure! I'm in the FlatIron building. | 01:44 |
| Corey | Sutter and Market. | 01:44 |
| pleia2 | ok cool, say 6:15? | 01:44 |
| * pleia2 will wear bright green linode shirt | 01:46 | |
| pleia2 | well, any much of this green is bright | 01:46 |
| pleia2 | green green | 01:46 |
| Corey | pleia2: k. Is a big corner though. | 01:54 |
| * jtatum notices Corey has a callsign in their ident | 01:58 | |
| philipballew | San Diego Ubuntu hour underway! | 02:09 |
| jtatum | hello san diego! | 02:13 |
| * akk waves to everyone in san diego | 02:19 | |
| * philipballew waves back at akk | 02:22 | |
| jtatum | mornin' | 17:55 |
| pleia2 | g'day jtatum | 17:55 |
| jtatum | hi there pleia2 | 17:56 |
| sadsun | mornin' | 18:29 |
| philipballew_ | morning sadsun | 18:31 |
| philipballew_ | how goes it? | 18:31 |
| sadsun | just watched the movie Punctured, it's quite good | 18:31 |
| philipballew_ | whats it about? | 18:32 |
| sadsun | lawyer suing a medical company, because they refuse to market safety needles | 18:33 |
| philipballew_ | seems like a fitting name then. | 18:35 |
| sadsun | how are you doing philipballew? | 18:35 |
| philipballew_ | I am going good. Just about to head to class | 18:35 |
| philipballew_ | you live in CA? | 18:35 |
| sadsun | aye, it is, I was amazed at the statistics | 18:35 |
| sadsun | no, I am in the Netherlands | 18:35 |
| philipballew_ | ah, i see | 18:35 |
| philipballew_ | well, its off to class now | 18:36 |
| sadsun | half past seven here, that's why^^ | 18:36 |
| jtatum | things are still a little quiet here sadsun :) speaking very generally, i think we tend not to be morning people :) | 19:05 |
| sadsun | np :) | 19:05 |
| * akk has her head buried in code | 19:12 | |
| sadsun | need a snorkel? | 19:18 |
| akk | yeah, that might help :) | 19:22 |
| * sadsun polishes his snorkel from spit and hands it over to Akk | 19:23 | |
| sadsun | what are you working on? | 19:24 |
| akk | sadsun: config parsing -- trying to get a program to save user prefs and read them back in again later. | 19:27 |
| akk | Getting a mapping program to remember its zoom level when you save a site, actually. | 19:28 |
| nhaines | akk: it's better if you enforce your preferences on the user. | 19:28 |
| nhaines | Much easier to code that way. | 19:28 |
| akk | That much is true, anyway. :) | 19:28 |
| sadsun | cool, which mapping program are we talking about? | 19:29 |
| akk | mine, pytopo -- http://shallowsky.com/software/topo/ | 19:30 |
| sadsun | awesome, so you use googlemaps as well? or just the code? | 19:33 |
| akk | There! Just had to whip a regexp into shape. | 19:33 |
| akk | This isn't related to google maps -- it's a program you run on your local machine, and I've never tried to get it to use google maps data because I think that may violate google's TOS. | 19:34 |
| akk | It uses openstreetmap data, or any local maps you care to store. | 19:34 |
| nhaines | akk: I'm pretty sure it does. | 19:34 |
| jyo | jtatum: How are we looking for the Ubuntu Hour tomorrow? | 19:35 |
| sadsun | I see, neat | 19:36 |
| jtatum | jyo: it's on like donkey kong | 20:18 |
| jtatum | sent an email to the list yesterday. so far no attendees on the loco page but i'll be there anyway :) | 20:18 |
| philipballew | jtatum, How often is your hour? | 22:01 |
| pleia2 | philipballew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours#Current_Ubuntu_Hours | 22:08 |
| pleia2 | monthly | 22:08 |
| philipballew | haha. thanks pleia2 :) | 22:10 |
| jtatum | ^^^ that :) | 23:26 |
| nhaines | I really do need to come up with a landing page for my UH. | 23:27 |
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