[00:01] sure, glad you got it all sorted :) [00:25] pleia2: I'll be there this evening. Whee. [00:26] Corey: cool, see you in a couple hours then, bringing key to sign? [00:26] pleia2: Ooh, good call. [00:33] pleia2: Reviewing http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html [00:33] Corey: I tend to go by http://www.phillylinux.org/keys/terminal.html [00:33] so I just bring my ID and printed fingerprint [00:37] Hmm, 2048 bit key. Good enough. :-p [00:38] I went all the way to 4096, my key from 2003 was 1024 and useless now, it is very sad (particularly because that's the fingerprint I have on my business cards) [00:56] pleia2: Some people take keys really serious :P just saying [00:56] bkerensa: as they should, it's a web of trust [00:56] if people don't care it doesn't mean a whole lot [00:58] Do you have to start all over getting signatures when you go to a longer key? [00:58] pleia2: Yeah but so very few people use keys in the grand scheme of things. I would say a good majority of people who use the internet have no idea what a key is and better yet could not name a algorithm of the top of their head [00:59] I wish keys had wider adoption and were more of a standard [00:59] akk: yes, but if you write a transition statement and sign it with both keys the people who signed your key previously can then decide whether they trust the transition statement and sign your new one [00:59] I went to a keysigning in 2007, got lots of signatures, think I've used the key twice since then (and neither time did the signatures help). [00:59] http://princessleia.com/gpg/key-transition_20110517_asc.txt [00:59] ^^ my transition statement [01:00] akk: Yeah exactly.... I would bet that if anything key use has declined over the years [01:01] bkerensa: I wish more people used them, but in all honesty I only ever really use mine for signing debian packages (it's a requirement) [01:01] I haven't used it for email in years [01:01] yeah [01:01] see if your doing packaging and foss dev work then a key is essential [01:01] I've never managed to get mutt to do anything useful with email signatures (like check against keyservers). [01:01] :D [01:01] I had mutt all set up for the whole thing back in the day, it was fun [01:02] now I use gmail and gave up :) [01:02] Oh, yeah, I've used my key to sign software packages (is that the same key? I'm always confused about when I'm using a GPG key vs. an ssh key) [01:02] keys actually are a major headache for me personally because people new to Ubuntu love to ask me to teach them how to generate a key and sign the CoC [01:03] * bkerensa uses a key for Amazon EC2 and for root to two boxes but thats all :D [01:11] two different keys :) [01:12] ssh key only does ssh and that's it [01:12] and you can't use a gpg key to connect to an ssh session [01:13] kinda seems dumb actually. shouldn't they support gpg keys for ssh? [01:14] ssh can do a lot, though -- like repository access (I have an ssh key I use for that) [01:15] I had to generate a special one with a password for gnome svn (now git) [01:15] yes - when ssh is the underlying protocol :) [01:16] so the process is quite a lot like making a gpg key and it's easy to forget which is which [01:17] hm, apparently there's a tool called gpgkey2ssh, which is part of gnupg-agent [01:18] and it may or may not be deprecated according to http://old.nabble.com/gpgkey2ssh-td30025315.html [01:19] oh, great, that clears things up :) [01:20] lol [01:20] sorry :) [01:36] pleia2: Do I need to bring my passport to dinner? :-p [01:36] Corey: just a a single form of gov't ID is fine (drivers license?) [01:37] pleia2: So far this year it's gotten me into Mexico, Morocco, Germany, Israel, and... your web of trust. :-p [01:37] lol [01:37] I don't have a stamp [01:37] :) [01:37] pleia2: Make one! [01:37] Republic of pleia. Official motto: Subsisto Sermonem Statum [01:38] haha, hey! [01:42] Corey: wanna meet at montgomery and market and walk over? [01:42] (not sure where you are at the moment :)) [01:44] pleia2: Sure! I'm in the FlatIron building. [01:44] Sutter and Market. [01:44] ok cool, say 6:15? [01:46] * pleia2 will wear bright green linode shirt [01:46] well, any much of this green is bright [01:46] green green [01:54] pleia2: k. Is a big corner though. [01:58] * jtatum notices Corey has a callsign in their ident [02:09] San Diego Ubuntu hour underway! [02:13] hello san diego! [02:19] * akk waves to everyone in san diego [02:22] * philipballew waves back at akk [17:55] mornin' [17:55] g'day jtatum [17:56] hi there pleia2 [18:29] mornin' [18:31] morning sadsun [18:31] how goes it? [18:31] just watched the movie Punctured, it's quite good [18:32] whats it about? [18:33] lawyer suing a medical company, because they refuse to market safety needles [18:35] seems like a fitting name then. [18:35] how are you doing philipballew? [18:35] I am going good. Just about to head to class [18:35] you live in CA? [18:35] aye, it is, I was amazed at the statistics [18:35] no, I am in the Netherlands [18:35] ah, i see [18:36] well, its off to class now [18:36] half past seven here, that's why^^ [19:05] things are still a little quiet here sadsun :) speaking very generally, i think we tend not to be morning people :) [19:05] np :) [19:12] * akk has her head buried in code [19:18] need a snorkel? [19:22] yeah, that might help :) [19:23] * sadsun polishes his snorkel from spit and hands it over to Akk [19:24] what are you working on? [19:27] sadsun: config parsing -- trying to get a program to save user prefs and read them back in again later. [19:28] Getting a mapping program to remember its zoom level when you save a site, actually. [19:28] akk: it's better if you enforce your preferences on the user. [19:28] Much easier to code that way. [19:28] That much is true, anyway. :) [19:29] cool, which mapping program are we talking about? [19:30] mine, pytopo -- http://shallowsky.com/software/topo/ [19:33] awesome, so you use googlemaps as well? or just the code? [19:33] There! Just had to whip a regexp into shape. [19:34] This isn't related to google maps -- it's a program you run on your local machine, and I've never tried to get it to use google maps data because I think that may violate google's TOS. [19:34] It uses openstreetmap data, or any local maps you care to store. [19:34] akk: I'm pretty sure it does. [19:35] jtatum: How are we looking for the Ubuntu Hour tomorrow? [19:36] I see, neat [20:18] jyo: it's on like donkey kong [20:18] sent an email to the list yesterday. so far no attendees on the loco page but i'll be there anyway :) [22:01] jtatum, How often is your hour? [22:08] philipballew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours#Current_Ubuntu_Hours [22:08] monthly [22:10] haha. thanks pleia2 :) [23:26] ^^^ that :) [23:27] I really do need to come up with a landing page for my UH.