[01:36] hey, there was someone who was really keen on working with us on the multihead xrandr stuff; anyone remember who that was? [01:37] aha, ayan it was [02:05] Also Evan. [02:06] * broder waves [02:06] Yeah, I never seem to quite get up the throughput I want, but I am very interested in multihead stuff [02:06] Yo yo! [02:06] Story of our lives :) [02:06] (And I'm happy to rant passionately about how I think things should work :-P) [02:07] Should the design team start making unreasonable demands I'll be sure to roll you out :) [02:09] broder, awesome! [02:09] broder, so, we've roughed out the blueprints enough to be worth perusing I think [02:09] Yeah, I have them sitting in my inbox and was planning to look through them this evening when I got home from work [02:10] broder, tentatively we've assigned many of the work items, but I think both raof and I are over limit on tasks so if you happen to be interested in one or two we'd be happy to share :-) [02:10] Most of my interest is around what happens at the g-s-d/gnome-desktop level or so [02:10] * bryceh nods [02:11] broder, in the near term I'll be focusing mainly on the X side of stuff, but expect in 1-2 months the gnome-rr bits will start becoming worth giving attention to [02:11] later on there's probably going to be a fair bit of testing and polishing needed [02:12] I'm still a little sketchy on where Design's work fits in, but figure that'll get sorted out [02:12] * broder nods [02:12] meantime, if you know of any bug#'s relevant to any of this, shoot them my way; I'm going to build a collection of 'em [02:14] RAOF, I've worsened your Work Item overload today, sorry about that. Figure we will need to do some prioritization and filtering the next day or two [02:15] bryceh: That's ok. Roughly 30 of my work-items aren't actually mine. [02:15] When pitti's awake I'll work out how they should be marked. [02:17] * bryceh nods [02:18] yeah I'm waiting for status to update so I can see what my score is currently [03:59] RAOF: i know we were talking about wayland and grabs (or lack thereof) at uds. does wayland have an answer for, e.g., polkit prompts where you want to own the keyboard/mouse to be sure you get the credentials? [04:00] Not as far as I'm aware, no. [04:00] Although I suspect that the correct answer is "build it into the shell" [04:00] Which is, after all, what we plan to do anyway. [04:00] good point [04:01] And that's obviously easier with wayland, because your shell is your compositor and can simply gobble up the input. [05:43] RAOF: disable it (the touchpad) ;) [05:44] I rather like *having* a touchpad, especially an almost-multitouch one. This clearly reports 3 fingers; it just does it badly! [05:44] Also, two-finger scrolling is love. [05:45] middle-button + nipple does the same [05:46] This is true. It doesn't do it as well, though. [05:46] well, the touchpad gets on my way all the time, so I just disabled it from bios [11:04] RAOF: hmm, when I used that last it was tolerable under oneiric [11:05] RAOF: if you want to see bad, try lucid [11:05] the cursor moves constantly just resting your finger in one spot [11:10] Sarvatt, hey :) [11:10] looks like there is a fglrx driver with 1.11 support ;) [11:12] only two months late? [11:16] they didn't need to rush it this time :) [11:17] tjaalton: because of 11.10 not shipping with 1.11? [11:17] yeah, unfortunatelly, they need some pressure to catch up ;) [11:17] jcristau: right [11:17] jcristau: well, that's the theory anyway [11:18] having fglrx support now could change this [11:18] change what? [11:19] not going with 1.11 [11:19] for 11.10? [11:19] a bit too late for that. [11:19] yep [11:19] 12.04 [11:19] precise will get it soon [11:20] ah, nvm thinking about 1.12 [11:26] ricotz: I'm on it [11:27] (fglrx) [11:27] tseliot, thanks :), still hoping for nvidia 285.x for oneiric [11:28] tseliot, could you upload fglrx to edgers too (natty, oneiric, precise) [11:28] ricotz: I haven't made an announcement yet but have a look at bug #887630 [11:28] Launchpad bug 887630 in nvidia-settings-updates (Ubuntu Precise) (and 5 other projects) "SRU: update nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates to 285.05.09 (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887630 [11:29] tseliot, or point me to the fglrx upload and i push it to the ppa [11:29] tseliot, thanks! [11:29] ricotz: yes, I'm going to upload it to precise first. I can ping you when it's done [11:30] tseliot, ok === soreau_ is now known as soreau [16:40] Intel says mesa 7.11 coming next week; 8.0 will be in january with open gl 3.0. Bugfix versions in feb. [16:41] they don't do RCs for mesa anymore? [16:43] 7.11.1 [16:44] ah right 7.11 is already out. silly me. [16:44] they did rc's for point releases of mesa at one point? [16:44] oh [16:44] i was just confused :) [17:15] bryceh, i got lucky looking for a newer wacom driver and they have done a new release, you might want to grab this https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2079193/+listing-archive-extra [17:18] ricotz: tjaalton is the one to poke about that :) [17:19] oh, alright, i just looked at the last changelog entry [17:19] tjaalton, perhaps you want to grab this update for precise ^ [17:20] Sarvatt, it even suppose to work with ABI 14 (1.12) ;) [17:21] our stuff is different than the debian ones and not maintained in pkg-xorg, he does it in his own branch on git.debian.org [17:21] ricotz: ABI 14 is not 1.12. [17:21] Sarvatt, i see, this is an uupdate from the precise package [17:22] jcristau, currently it is [17:22] 1.12 doesn't exist, and i expect its ABI will see a few more bumps. [17:22] no it's not [17:22] input abi [17:22] its not pushed yet and could be 15 or more by the time it releases is what he means [17:23] jcristau: we're most likely going to have a horrible abomination xserver this time, input stack from 1.12 on 1.11 (yay..) [17:24] Sarvatt: ewww [17:24] because 1.12 comes too late? [17:25] yeah feature freeze is feb 16th and there hasn't even been any talk of release dates or following of schedule so far so its a bit up in the air [17:29] oh it is abi 14 right now, doubt its going to be 14 in 1.12 then [17:29] jcristau, yeah, i meant "currently", i know it is still in transition, just saying it is nice having a driver following it [17:29] Sarvatt, i guess the multitouch stuff might bump it further [17:30] if it finally lands... [18:31] ricotz: sure [18:31] and while the branch is on my own repo, pkg-xorg has write access [18:39] hmm, haven't seen wacom release announcements on any list [18:40] oh there's a separate list for it.. [19:07] tjaalton, ok, i just got from the sourceforge page [19:18] oh wow, cairo 1.12 this week [19:19] release candidates? who needs em [20:22] mesa 7.11.2 in december specifically [20:23] and a .3 in january in addition to 8.0 [22:09] Hello... Why is there no fglrx 11.11 drivers packaged in xorg-edgers or x-swap ppa? :)