[00:12] <BenChapman> evening
[11:06] <airurando> ebel: it looks like I'll be going to Limerick on 03 Dec 11.
[11:07] <ebel> ok. would you like to bring some CDs down?
[11:07] <ebel> I can meet up or post out to you or what would you like?
[11:07] <airurando> If UHD goes ahead on 02 Dec 11 I could pick up a load of CDs to bring down to infoturtle
[11:08] <ebel> kewl
[11:09] <airurando> I suppose I could bring some for ucl milklabs and the learning centre.
[11:09] <airurando> I'll talk numbers with infoturtle and get back to you.
[11:13] <ebel> sure thing
[11:13] <ebel> let me know how many ye need
[11:26] <airurando> Silly me ucl should have been UL
[11:27] <slashtommy> careful now, don't be giving them too many letters!
[11:27] <airurando> I've sent him a DM on twitter.  Once I hear back I'll let you know.
[11:27] <slashtommy> ebel: don't forget we're off to limerick at the weekend
[11:28] <slashtommy> and may have sometime on sunday afternoon before our train home
[11:28] <ebel> of course!
[11:28] <ebel> well i'm not sure, depends on when my mum wants to leave
[11:28] <ebel> so we miiight/might not have time
[11:30] <slashtommy> if anyone was to meet us at the train station, it would take no more than 2 minutes
[11:30] <ebel> yes good point
[11:31] <slashtommy> our train is at 4.30pm - so i would suggest if anyone in limerick wants CDs to meet us at 4pm in the station
[11:32] <ebel> Right I've messages infoturtle on twitter.
[11:32] <ebel> we have several backup plans
[11:34] <czajkowski> aloha
[11:35] <ebel> yo czajkowski
[11:36] <slashtommy> hello czajkowski, ready for your trip back home?
[11:37] <czajkowski> kinda
[11:40] <slashtommy> we are considering having an ubuntu hour on 2nd december, to mark your return
[11:45] <slashtommy> what's your plan?
[11:47] <ebel> They have a plan.
[11:47] <ebel> There are 6 czajkowski models.
[11:48] <czajkowski> oh cool
[11:48] <czajkowski> um no idea
[11:51] <slashtommy> well, we could bring you back to the 'batter... some good pubs there!
[11:55] <czajkowski> waiting to know by next tuesday if I am going or not
[11:55] <czajkowski> kinda depends on some stuffwill keep ye posted
[11:55] <czajkowski> thanks :)
[13:55] <czajkowski> ebel: slashtommy do either of ye havea  camera fitted to your helmet for when ye bike around? any recommendations?
[13:55] <ebel> czajkowski: yes that's how we take the vidfeos
[13:56] <slashtommy> http://youtube.com/slashtomeu
[13:56] <czajkowski> nods
[13:56] <czajkowski> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drift-HD170-Stealth-Action-Camera/dp/B004L5AF4Q/ref=dp_cp_ob_ce_title_2
[13:56] <czajkowski> dont know much
[13:56]  * slashtommy wants to see a picture of czajkowski on a hog
[13:56] <czajkowski> was wondering whats what
[13:56] <czajkowski> slashtommy: no chance the biy likes his bikes
[13:56] <czajkowski> me no so much
[13:56] <slashtommy> ebel knows more
[13:57] <czajkowski> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Contour-GPS-Full-Helmet-Camera/dp/B00426DQ2W/ref=dp_cp_ob_ce_title_3  seems to be everywhere or at least the brand si
[13:57] <slashtommy> you should get on the bike ;)
[13:57] <czajkowski> nope
[13:57] <czajkowski> not a hope in hells chance that will ever ever happen :)
[13:57] <slashtommy> tis fun, what does he ride?
[13:58]  * slashtommy will let ebel post a link to the camera we use
[13:58] <czajkowski> um
[13:58] <czajkowski> a I know it's big
[13:58] <czajkowski> and it's a bmw
[13:58] <czajkowski> and he's selling his suzuki
[13:58] <ebel> we have one of these http://driftinnovation.com/hd170-action-camera/
[13:58] <slashtommy> that reminds me, i have more video of wicklow that i still need to edit
[13:59] <slashtommy> on SD mode it works in wide-angle mode - major improvement and makes the video appear to be normal speed
[14:00] <ebel> czajkowski: yeah the drift if the one we have
[14:00] <slashtommy> if you're not in wide-angle mode, you miss out on the peripherial vision which then makes all the video seem much slower than real life
[14:00] <ebel> brb
[14:00] <czajkowski> nods
[14:00] <czajkowski> so I should buy a SD card also with it ?
[14:01] <slashtommy> cztab: are you bring your boy back home?
[14:01] <czajkowski> aye for xmas
[14:01] <slashtommy> you would need a few SD cards
[14:01] <slashtommy> and i take it that this questioning is for xmas... ;)
[14:01] <czajkowski> yup
[14:01] <czajkowski> ok so max size is 32
[14:02] <czajkowski> how many hrs would that get you ?
[14:02] <slashtommy> many
[14:02]  * ebel returns
[14:02] <slashtommy> battery would probably get you first
[14:02] <ebel> yes you'll need a SD card with it
[14:02] <czajkowski> ok
[14:02] <ebel> we have a 16GB one, it takes about 5 hours of footage
[14:02] <slashtommy> ebel is best to advise, all i know is that you're best to stick with SD
[14:02] <czajkowski> ok they're on amazon for about 29
[14:02] <czajkowski> so not too bad
[14:02] <ebel> the drift does several resolutions, 480, 1020ish and 1280
[14:02] <czajkowski> will have a look more and see if its worthwhile
[14:03] <czajkowski> thanks for the info lads
[14:03] <ebel> sorry 480, 720, 1280
[14:03] <ebel> 1280 is HD
[14:03] <slashtommy> http://youtube.com/slashtomeu - all those videos are shot with that camera in SD
[14:03] <ebel> we usually use 720 which is DVD quality
[14:03] <ebel> if it's in 720 then it has a 170 degree field of view, basically wide angle
[14:03] <ebel> if it's 1280 then it's like normal
[14:03] <czajkowski> nods
[14:04] <czajkowski> ok
[14:04] <czajkowski> cheers :D
[14:04] <ebel> we always use 720 with the windangle
[14:04] <ebel> you can see here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/5822416632/in/set-72157626938588538/
[14:05] <ebel> actually
[14:05] <ebel> i'm a bit confused, might be getting mized up
[14:05] <ebel> anwyays the wide angle is great
[14:05] <ebel> cause it means you really don't have to aim it
[14:05] <slashtommy> aye
[14:06] <ebel> About 75% of the video footage we took (on a cheaper camera) of european bike tour is rubbish. Just the sky or something
[14:06] <ebel> which was very annoying
[14:06]  * slashtommy hopes czajkowski's boy buys here some gear and a helmet for xmas ;)
[14:06] <slashtommy> her*
[14:06] <ebel> And the drift has a little screen
[14:06] <slashtommy> ebel: we must go again
[14:07] <ebel> So i used to sit on the bike, take a photo, then look at the photo on the little screen and check that it was ok befor eheading off
[14:08] <ebel> I think the countour has an iphone app (with an android app coming soon™) that allows you to view out the camer
[14:08] <ebel> so it's like a little broadcast. you can uise the iphone as a remote control view finder
[14:08] <ebel> actually this http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/5822416632/in/set-72157626938588538/ must be the HD non-widescreen
[14:09] <ebel> One annoying thing with the shitty one (that cost ~ €50) was that everything looked slow
[14:10] <ebel> Whereas with the wideangle, since you can see so far to the sides, you can see road & bushes etc whizz by. Makes it look *much* faster.
[14:10] <ebel> so you look at the video and go "Crumbs, I don't remember going that fast!"
[14:10] <ebel> (Conversely, when looking at the old one, it was like "wow, we werent' going that slow, were we?"
[14:11] <ebel> wideangle is great for when you move you head around. One problem with the old non-wideangle one was that you (& your head) move around when riding a bike
[14:11] <ebel> So the video is very jerky. However with a wideangle it's much less of a problem, since the viewer is able to keep the important parts in view
[14:11] <slashtommy> wideangle is definitely the way
[14:13] <ebel> this is a wideangle view http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/5855915667/in/set-72157627004907232 and you can see the walls at the side whizz past,  but that's cause you're almost looking due left
[14:14] <ebel> However, i used my old strap for the the drift, You get a few velcro things with the drift, and some clips, so I dunno how great that is
[14:14] <ebel> You also get a little remote control with the drift to turn it on/off. it's real handy
[14:15] <ebel> I've attached it to the side of my tank bag
[14:16] <ebel> You can slightly see the fish-eye/wideangle in these 2 photos http://slashtom.eu/displayimage.php?album=28&pos=1 http://slashtom.eu/displayimage.php?album=28&pos=0
[14:17] <ebel> You can see what it looks like strapped to the helmet here: http://slashtom.eu/displayimage.php?album=28&pos=8
[14:19] <ebel> the drift comes with a halfsize battery so you can take about 4 hours of video
[14:19] <ebel> We bought a bigger one here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drift-HD170-Long-Life-Battery/dp/B0046ZG7OI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321539522&sr=8-2
[14:19] <ebel> and it will last all day
[14:23] <ebel> For the record a 40 minute video is about 2.5GB
[14:24] <ebel> There are several other popular camera for bikes, GoPro, Contour etc.
[21:30] <BenChapman> evening ubuntu folk :)
[21:31] <moylan> hi
[21:32] <airurando> hi moylan
[21:32] <moylan> sorry for missing last nights irc meetup.  slept through it.
[21:33] <airurando> good you got some sleep
[21:33] <airurando> :)
[21:34] <moylan> had tried to time been out earlier in the day and sleep time to be there but no such luck.
[21:35] <airurando> not to worry. plenty more of them in the future
[21:35] <airurando> did you read the logs?
[21:35] <moylan> not yet.  was going to have a rummage last night but will get to them tonight.
[21:36] <czajkowski> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/11/17/new-ubuntu-loco-council-announced/
[21:36] <czajkowski> meet most of your new loco council : )
[21:37] <moylan> hi czajkowski, a year in the uk?
[21:37] <czajkowski> yup
[21:37] <czajkowski> time flew!
[21:38] <airurando> congrats czajkowski
[21:38] <czajkowski> thanks
[21:38] <czajkowski> :)
[21:38] <czajkowski> 2 more years
[21:40] <airurando> aye, well deserved.
[21:41] <czajkowski> thanks
[21:41] <moylan> agreed