[00:56] <broder> Laney (and other backporters): can you think of common stock responses you have to write up on backport requests? so far i've got "this package isn't in ubuntu", "this version isn't in ubuntu", and "backports aren't srus". any others?
[01:35] <micahg> broder: uploaded to PPA foo, please install and run
[01:36] <broder> ah yes, of course :)
[01:57] <iamfuzz> lifeless, oh sorry, was referring back to installing launchpad locally
[01:58] <iamfuzz> lifeless, does the ability to create private PPAs in the soyuz implementation exist there?
[02:10] <blair> suggestions on which debian IRC channel to discuss a non-responsive debian package maintainer?  i've put together a patch for review.  looking to get them to update a package so it can be synced into precise
[02:10] <lifeless> iamfuzz: we deploy the same code we develop
[02:10] <lifeless> iamfuzz: no changes
[02:11] <iamfuzz> very nice
[03:39] <Resistance> since i got no answers from #launchpad...
 do recipe builds and what not get a lower build / ppa-build priority?
 the same source package uploaded by hand myself gets a sooner build time than the recipe build on lp
[03:39] <Resistance> in case someone here knows
[04:09] <micahg> Resistance: makes sense that automatic builds are after manual ones
[07:51] <dholbach> good morning
[09:25] <Laney> broder: blah blah upgrade path
[15:18] <l3on> Hey guys... do you suggest to add NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 in Makefile or in debian/rules ?
[15:19] <l3on> the first choice means I have to create a patch... the second one should be a inline editing... what do you suggest ?
[15:19] <l3on> (package I'm merging is cdebootstrap)
[15:19] <l3on> -	dpkg-deb --build temp-$(PACKAGE) $(PACKAGE).deb
[15:19] <l3on> +	NO_PKG_MANGLE=1 dpkg-deb --build temp-$(PACKAGE) $(PACKAGE).deb
[15:20] <l3on> that's the change at Makefile
[15:20] <geser> how is it currently done?
[15:21] <l3on> changing Makefile
[15:22] <l3on> that → helper/Makefile.{in,am}
[15:25] <l3on> anyway... this package has '3.0 (native)' format...
[15:25] <l3on> What's the best way to apply patches ?
[15:25] <l3on> I mean.. if I switch format to 'quilt' I need .orig.tar.gz
[15:26] <l3on> that's not provided by debian :/
[16:29] <Laney> l3on: I suggest you read up on what a native package is :-)
[16:30] <Laney> specifically that applying patches is not quite the same thing when the package is native
[16:33] <l3on> Laney, I read.. but I'm not sure to understand how to apply patches :).. so, I switched to online changes ...
[17:09] <and`> didrocks: any reason for keeping libbamf outside Debian?
[17:12] <didrocks> and`: not outside that Debian didn't need it until now
[17:13] <and`> didrocks: I maintain the gnome-pie package and while looking at its new upstream release today, I noticed it requiring libbamf :)
[17:13] <didrocks> oh, interesting :)
[17:13] <didrocks> so please, feel free to push it to debian
[17:14] <and`> do you want to maintain it there as well?
[17:15] <and`> if yes, I can sponsor the upload for you if you want.
[17:16] <and`> didrocks: ^^
[17:18] <didrocks> and`: I would be happy to do that, I can't though affirm that I can give the same QA level on debian
[17:19] <and`> didrocks: I can help you if needed, i.e forwarding stuff etc. but keeping the package in sync would be a nice thing
[17:19] <and`> didrocks: drop me a mail with a dgettable dsc and I'll push it either today or tomorrow, is that OK for you?
[17:20] <didrocks> and`: can we plan that on Monday? I'm about to leave and will be off for a FLOSS event this week-end
[17:21] <and`> didrocks: sure, but if there are no big deltas (apart changelog, maintainer stuff etc.), I can grab Ubuntu's package myself and upload it to Debian
[17:22] <didrocks> and`: you should be able to grab the current version in ubuntu and be fine with it
[17:22] <didrocks> and`: 0.2.104-0ubuntu1
[17:22] <didrocks> so I guess 0.2.104-1 and I can sync back in ubuntu
[17:23] <and`> didrocks: awesome, will add you as main maintainer.
[17:24] <didrocks> thanks and` :)
[17:24] <and`> yw!
[17:58] <CarlFK> is there a guid for getting source, fixing bug, uploading to my PPA, testing, and submitting the patch on my ppa?
[17:59] <CarlFK> I have submitted patches and put stuff on my PPA, wondering if there is a smooth way to do them both
[21:55] <achiang> barry: ping, do you know how to steer setup.py to install python modules in /usr/share/appname/xxx instead of dist-packages dir?
[21:56] <barry> achiang: is this for a package using dh_python2?
[21:57] <achiang> barry: yeah
[21:57] <barry> achiang: do a man dh_python2 and search for "private dirs"
[21:58] <achiang> barry: the package wants to install some private modules, and per policy, they should go into  /usr/share/module
[21:58] <barry> achiang: yep, dh_python2 supports that
[21:58] <achiang> barry: hm, so i'm talking with my upstream and they want to make setup.py do it, so this works on fedora too
[22:00] <barry> achiang: hmm, okay.  try this: `python setup.py install --help`.  there are a number of options available to control where stuff gets installed, so upstream will have to poke through those and figure out what works best for them
[22:01] <achiang> barry: ok, will pass on, thanks
[22:01] <barry> achiang: np. hth.
[23:12] <iamfuzz> lifeless, got LP up and running locally \o/
[23:12] <iamfuzz> lifeless, how does one go about adding userS?
[23:13] <iamfuzz> lifeless, when I acess Login/Register, it only gives me the option to login
[23:13] <StevenK> iamfuzz: utilites/make-lp-user <name>
[23:13] <Laney> admin@canonical.com / test
[23:13] <lifeless> there are some scripts in bin/ and utilities/
[23:13] <Laney> is the default, but ^
[23:13] <iamfuzz> many thanks
[23:14]  * iamfuzz wonders why canonical doesn't offer installation and setup of this as a paid service like LDS
[23:14] <StevenK> Because we'd prefer you use launchpad.net
[23:14] <StevenK> But we understand that isn't possible all the time
[23:15] <iamfuzz> we likely would, other than the bandwidth issues as a result of a hosted service
[23:15] <Laney> I tried to get soyuz working but it bob the builder had some phantom mozilla build going on so it never got any build jobs
[23:15] <Laney> how do I kill that?
[23:15] <StevenK> Laney: Hack the DB
[23:15] <iamfuzz> Laney, lmk how it works out - thats my next step too :-)
[23:16] <Laney> hmm
[23:17]  * StevenK tries to remember the runes
[23:17] <Laney> no worries, I don't have it up atm :-)
[23:17] <lifeless> actually thats not why we don't do an LDS like thing
[23:17] <StevenK> Either way lib/lp/buildmaster/enums.py has the magical values
[23:18] <StevenK> Laney: So you have a build in status 0 (NEEDSBUILD), you want to update the DB so that they are all 2 (FAILEDTOBUILD)
[23:18] <Laney> i think it is currently building actually
[23:18] <StevenK> Then 6 to 2
[23:19] <Laney> but I get the idea
[23:19] <Laney> thank you :>
[23:19] <StevenK> Laney: #launchpad-dev on this network. We'd be delighted to answer any questions you have.
[23:19] <StevenK> iamfuzz: ^
[23:19] <Laney> am there, idling
[23:19] <Laney> will surely have questions when i come to actually do something
[23:22] <iamfuzz> Laney, you have any problems importing your gpg key?
[23:22] <Laney> nope
[23:22] <Laney> i think you have to make sure gpg knows about it
[23:23] <Laney> on the host, for that script
[23:24] <lifeless> the idea of on-site launchpads was mooted way back at the london exhibition hotel LP sprint
[23:24] <lifeless> never seemed to get the resourcing needed, and doing it from the existing dev team would slow down features
[23:28] <ajmitch> Laney: you're making progress now? :)
[23:29] <Laney> too tired to boot the vm and check
[23:29] <Laney> should have done it in an lxc
[23:32] <lifeless> lxc++
[23:33] <ajmitch> better than messing up your live system
[23:34] <iamfuzz> where are the logs stored?  I can't get it to import my key for the life of me
[23:55] <iamfuzz> lifeless, StevenK I apparently have something with my bazaar alias screwed up.  When I click on the logout button, it takes me to the "Lost something?" page with broken images
[23:55] <iamfuzz> and when trying to import a key, I get this fun: 2011-11-17 15:33:21-0800 [HTTPChannel,4,127.0.0.88] 127.0.0.88 - - [17/Nov/2011:23:33:20 +0000] "GET /pks/lookup?search=0xD69FC46438D3A33619E5577D39BE3335F26A3797&op=get HTTP/1.1" 500 145 "-" "Python-urllib/2.6"
[23:55] <iamfuzz> any ideas?
[23:56] <StevenK> iamfuzz: Does the URL start with bazaar.launchpad.dev?
[23:57] <iamfuzz> StevenK, yes
[23:57] <iamfuzz> StevenK, https://bazaar.launchpad.dev/+logout?next_to=https%3A%2F%2Ftestopenid.dev%2F%2Blogout
[23:57] <StevenK> iamfuzz: It's LP attempting to log you out of loggerhead too, you'll hit it if you use make run, rather than make run_codehosting
[23:57] <StevenK> iamfuzz: It's ignorable
[23:58] <iamfuzz> StevenK, ah, thought it might be related to my key import issue as well